Mid-Term Shuffle: With or Without a ‘Wave,’ Agenda Caught in Undertow
By Rick Klein Now that dreams of 60-plus Senate votes can join the public option and a closed Gitmo in some alternative Democratic dream universe … Democrats get to try to do something in this rapidly changing world. If 2010 wasn’t complicated enough, the year plays out now with the political world re-learning that lesson about the impermanence of a permanent everything. (You’d think we would have remembered that one this time around.) Partly by design, partly by circumstance, so much of what President Obama hoped to achieve was foisted onto his second year in office. Now that year looks not just crowded, but cramped and hot. It’s as if the mid-term elections are a wave with an undertow — roiling the waters on the front end, in addition to whatever soak they’ll have on the last two years of the president’s term. Every legislative push will face its own squeeze: Voices on the outside and the inside of Congress know that President Obama is unlikely to again enjoy voting margins like he does this year. But those margins are built by Democrats who have more reasons to be concerned about their political fates, virtually by the day. The challenge is not just improving the electoral environment, but in improving the governing environment over these next 10 months. “With the chances growing that the election in November would end the 60-vote majority Democrats enjoy in the Senate — the practical threshold for being able to overcome united Republican opposition — the president and his party face additional urgency to make progress on his agenda this year,” Jeff Zeleny and Adam Nagourney write in The New York Times. “To the degree that the retirements reflect increasing skepticism among voters about the direction Democrats are pushing the country, Mr. Obama could face a tougher time winning legislative support as he presses ahead with initiatives on climate change, financial regulation, education and other issues.” Watch the agenda shrink along with Democrats’ chances: “Controversial initiatives already on the operating table, such as climate-change legislation, almost certainly won’t be revived this year, as nervous members start pondering their chances in November. And the administration could be forced to compromise on other top priorities, such as an overhaul of financial regulation,” Peter Wallsten and Naftali Bendavid write in The Wall Street Journal. It’s “a wind shift that has thrown the Democratic Party off balance and turned the politics of raising hope into the politics of managing anger,” Janet Hook reports in the Los Angeles Times. “Now, the country seems to be yelling back, ‘No, you can’t,’ ” McClatchy’s Steven Thomma and David Lightman report. Let this concept marinate in the minds of Democratic incumbents — including some who haven’t been in public life quite as long as Sen. Chris Dodd: “It’s as if the people don’t know him,” Rep. John Larson, D-Conn., speaking of Dodd, told The Boston Globe’s Susan Milligan. What last year could be remembered for? “The year 2009 marked the end of a three-year run of majority Democratic support among U.S. adults. Last year, an average of 49.0% of Americans identified as Democrats or said they leaned Democratic, the party’s first yearly average below 50% since 2005,” Jeffrey M. Jones writes of Gallup Poll data. Enough sets of isolated circumstances, and you start to see a trend: “Democrats now face the evaporation of their 60-vote filibuster-proof majority in the Senate and losses in the House that a number of strategists across party lines conservatively estimate in the range of 20 to 25 seats,” Dan Balz writes in The Washington Post. David Axelrod: “We understand the challenge. But gloomy? No.” Sixty doesn’t even mean 60 these days — so what does 55 or 52 mean? “While Republicans may not be immediately positioned to pick up the needed seats to win control of the House and Senate, Tuesday’s retirements represent a blow to Democratic expectations and will very likely spell the end of the party’s filibuster-proof Senate majority,” Politico’s Jonathan Martin and Alex Isenstadt write. “The bottom line for Obama: Losing even one seat in the Senate would make it more difficult to block Republican filibusters. And if the GOP makes big gains in the House – a pickup of 30 or more seats is seeming ever more likely — that will make it much harder to pass administration proposals,” the AP’s Liz Sidoti writes. Looking for bright spots? “The Democrats’ map is not a happy one. If managing a barely filibuster-proof majority has been hell for the party’s leaders, this now seems to be one burden they won’t have to worry about next year,” E.J. Dionne Jr. writes in his column. Party leaders can’t really control such things, but they can hope: “I’m not sure exactly what the pattern’s going to be, but what I do know is we’re not going to see a wave of Democratic retirements like we saw in 1994,” Rep. Chris Van Hollen, chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said on ABC’s “Top Line” Wednesday. “We’re right now at 12 — maybe there’ll be a couple more.” Sen. Bob Menendez, chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee: “I would say the optics of having six Republican open seats is more significant,” Menendez told The Plum Line’s Greg Sargent. “They have to run the table to be even at the end of the day.” The Wall Street Journal editorial page — in an argument will harp on: “The looming collapse of the Democrats’ momentarily filibuster-proof majority is reason enough not to ram through a health-care bill on a partisan vote. The brute political force will only look more willful and dismissive of public opinion.” On health care impact, “We best hang together, or surely we’ll hang separately,” Democratic strategist James Carville said on “Good Morning America” Thursday. “Still, the sense is, if this fails, it would be worse for us politically than if it passes.” Countered Republican Nicolle Wallace: “I think it will probably pass — but I think it will do something that’s even uglier than limping across the finish line.” Tempering some Democratic optimism, in Connecticut: “Since [Richard] Blumenthal was elected in 1990, he has NEVER faced a competitive race. That’s probably not going to bode well for him as he begins his campaign in a highly charged political environment,” writes Neil Newhouse, a pollster working for former Rep. Rob Simmons’, R-Conn., campaign. The Hartford Courant’s Jon Lender: “Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal could be viewed as one of the state’s greatest cases of untapped political potential, held back by his own caution in a job that’s become too comfortable — like the perennial minor-league MVP who never tried to crack the majors.” Framing the race, in Massachusetts, on a day Attorney General Martha Coakley is set to soak in some Kennedy aura: “Veteran political handicapper Stuart Rothenberg said it’s possible that [Republican Scott] Brown could get 40%, or more, of the popular vote. That would be framed as a moral victory for Republicans and a warning shot for Democrats in an overwhelmingly Democratic state,” Gannett’s Chuck Raasch writes. The president’s day is dominated by the release of an unclassified version of the security review he ordered up of the Christmas Day terrorist plot. The president is scheduled to address those findings at 1 pm ET at the White House. ABC’s Jake Tapper: “The review, conducted by White House homeland security adviser John Brennan, will pinpoint the various failures of the intelligence community to ‘connect the dots,’ as President Obama put it on Tuesday.” A taste: “U.S. border security officials learned of the alleged extremist links of the suspect in the Christmas Day jetliner bombing attempt as he was airborne from Amsterdam to Detroit and had decided to question him when he landed,” the Los Angeles Times’ Sebastian Rotella reports. “Shock”: “White House national security adviser James Jones says Americans will feel ‘a certain shock’ when they read an account being released Thursday of the missed clues that could have prevented the alleged Christmas Day bomber from ever boarding the plane,” USA Today’s Susan Page reports. Action: “President Barack Obama has ordered a ‘surge’ of federal air marshals to be in place by Feb.1 in what officials said was a ‘race against time,’ with other suicide bombers believed to be in the terrorist pipeline, although there is no specific imminent threat,” ABC’s and Anna Schecter and Brian Ross report. Other dots getting connected: “A new Pentagon analysis shows the number of former Guantanamo detainees that it says have returned to the fight has continued to rise to 20 percent, up from the 14 percent recidivism rate released last spring,” ABC’s Luis Martinez reports. “The latest increase continues the upward trend from the two previous reports.” 9/11 Commission Vice Chair Lee Hamilton, on ABC’s Jake Tapper’s podcast: “I just think what’s pervasive through the country, and has been now for a number of years, is the complacency, an inertia, a business-as-usual attitude … that I think is harmful,” Hamilton said. “You can’t put all the responsibility on the president, but obviously he shares a major part of it.” Time’s Mark Halperin finds argues that January is going well for Obama — including with the focus on terrorism: “Silver lining: Lessons (galore) learned on how to project commander-in-chiefiness in the wake of crisis.” And health care looks like it’s on the move again — with the president just maybe taking sides. “President Barack Obama signaled to House Democratic leaders Wednesday that they’ll have to drop their opposition to taxing high-end health insurance plans to pay for health coverage for millions of uninsured Americans,” the AP’s Erica Werner reports. “In a meeting at the White House, Obama expressed his preference for the insurance tax contained in the Senate’s health overhaul bill, but largely opposed by House Democrats and organized labor.” Getting involved: “Mr. Obama may have little choice but to emerge from listening mode in the days ahead. Senate leaders return to Washington next week, and pressure will only mount on him to help broker the final differences between the bills,” The New York Times’ David Herszenhorn reports. This is a key inflection point for labor — and for the left. Health care reform is pretty far down the tracks to try to stop or even redirect at this point — but there are quite a few public statements out there to explain away. Broader pushback: “As the tax proposal takes on an aura of inevitability, pockets of skepticism remain, even beyond labor unions, which are often cast as the main opposition because many union plans would be taxed,” Alec MacGillis writes in The Washington Post. “Health analysts recently questioned the assumption that the tax would target only the most lavish insurance packages.” The “Cadillac tax” as clunker: “I think it’s a plan that has great political risk for the Democrats,” said Rep. Joe Courtney, D-Conn, per ABC’s Teddy Davis. Surely being highlighted in a presidential speech soon … Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, R-Calif., a fan no longer of health care reform: “You’ve heard of the bridge to nowhere. This is health care to nowhere.” ABC’s Jonathan Karl, on “Good Morning America” Thursday: “Democrats are confident they’ll ultimately prevail, but as final negotiations begin, there are several things that could kill the bill. … Some Democrats are insisting that the Nebraska deal be removed, but they still need [Sen. Ben] Nelson’s vote.” Coming Sunday, in The New York Times Magazine: Mark Leibovich on the Florida Senate race: “It is not uncommon for a party out of power to undergo an identity crisis and an internal bloodletting, and it is [Gov. Charlie] Crist’s bad luck that his race in 2010 fits the frame of a philosophical debate that has been fulminating in the Republican Party for several months.” For the growing Steele files: “Some wealthy contributors are shunning the Republican National Committee and donating instead to the other GOP campaign committees or directly to candidates — in many cases because of discontent with the leadership of Michael S. Steele, the party’s national chairman,” Ralph Z. Hallow reports in the Washington Times. The Kicker: “On another note, I don’t believe in retirement.” — Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., 86. “It’s possible, it’s possible.” — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., on the chance of a final health care vote in January.
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There was never an expectation that 2010 was going to be an easy cycle for Democrats. But it’s incredibly dumb for the media to take the Dorgan and Dodd situations and extrapolate them to the entire party. Neither were going to win, and now the Dems have a very good shot at keeping Dodd’s old seat in CT.
Posted by: matt | January 7, 2010, 8:24 am 8:24 am
This is less a wave and more of a toilet flushing..a big wave is just a freak happening..a flush is the result of purposeful action. Obama’s agenda feels like this: You hire a contractor to come in to update your kitchen, and when you come home your entire house has been demolished because this guy felt you might as well redo the whole thing..and pay for it.
Posted by: cindy | January 7, 2010, 8:58 am 8:58 am
Lets face it democrats, you have pi##ed off a lot of people cramming through this health care bill (by poll numbers) through congress and they won’t forget. Even people within your own party feel they have been sold out but, keep sticking your head in the sand.
Obama is a one term president.
Posted by: indymind | January 7, 2010, 9:01 am 9:01 am
cindy | Jan 7, 2010 8:58:27 AM
…excellent analogy. Was it for Obamacare or his ‘fundamental transformation of America’ (or all of the above)?
Posted by: deanbob | January 7, 2010, 9:13 am 9:13 am
Indy..you are right on the money. But let me tell you, Obama and the DEMS are more dangerous now than ever. With the end of their majority looming, you can be sure there will be a herculean push on Cap n Trade, immigration reform, and a whole host of controversial legislation. The tubs of vaseline are arriving in DC right now as they prepare more change for America: bend over!
Posted by: cindy | January 7, 2010, 9:17 am 9:17 am
The year has only begun and already the reporting is stating the year play out. It isn’t over until the Fat Lady Sings!
And I have Not yet begun to Sing.
Posted by: Angie | January 7, 2010, 9:18 am 9:18 am
Dean, it’s all about the fundamental change. I have relatives who enthusiastically voted for Obama..and they are NERVOUS. They bought into the whole idea of change, as in a fresh, new hair color; not shaving your head!
Posted by: cindy | January 7, 2010, 9:24 am 9:24 am
The need to be scared. The majoarity does not want a health care bill that is secret. We will take down this dem controlled socialist party in 10 months.
Posted by: Jim Rod | January 7, 2010, 9:36 am 9:36 am
The republicrats are dragging them down. They need to cut their loses. They need to run single payer health care candidates against the republicrats and republicans. Throwing some hedge fund and credit default swap dealers in leg irons would help their cause.
Posted by: rightbehind | January 7, 2010, 9:50 am 9:50 am
Rightbehind, my best friend’s husband lost his job last yr at GM (after 18 yrs) and cannot find work. 4 kids, big mortgage, car payments, a wife working her tail off, unemployment set to run out. Do you think they talk about hedge fund managers, single payer care, or global warming at night? Sadly, they are doing more arguing than talking, but it’s all about JOBS! Our govt is living in a parallel universe..talking about issues that mean NOTHING to MILLIONS of people desperately looking for work!
Posted by: cindy | January 7, 2010, 10:02 am 10:02 am
The Obstructionist GOP gave us deregulation— Thanks for Bernie Madoff — Worthless Credit Default Swaps-And near Collapse of our entire Financial system– They gave us Trickle down Reaganomics— Dropped the tax rate for the upper 3% from 94% during WW11 to 38% under Bush — A move so Reckless during Wartime that We are reaping its catastrophic effects Worldwide!!! Yes the Dems are Spendocrats as are the GOP — The only difference is the Dems spend Domestically while the GOP waste it on Wars for Corporate Profit and Playing World Cop– I’d rather see the Money spent here!!!
Posted by: brian | January 7, 2010, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Brian, Obama just pledged BILLIONS to some global fund for 3rd world countries to blow on global warming initiatives, (that’ll work) and I don’t see him hauling the troops home from Afghanistan, Italy, Germany, Japan…Obama is just another spending addict, he’s not interested in a cure, he just wants clean needles. (Dems, Repubs, they are ALL the same! We need to flush ‘em all out and institute term limits!..just for starters!!)
Posted by: cindy | January 7, 2010, 10:15 am 10:15 am
Yes Cindy–A good start would be banning all Lobbyists from Washington!!!
Posted by: brian | January 7, 2010, 10:19 am 10:19 am
I am making up some zip codes to get stimulus money. Thank God for the integrity of this administration.
Posted by: jamescbuilder | January 7, 2010, 10:25 am 10:25 am
filibuster proof my eye…..does anyone really believe that the likes of Ben Nelson, the hack Liebermann, Blanche Lincoln, Mary Landrieu are true to the Democratic platform beliefs? Give me a break.Making all the slimy back room deals with these parasites is pathetic. The Senate is a broken system, but the only ones who can fix it won’t. Wish we could throw all these stinking bums out.Now Obama has joined the ranks of politics as usual….He needs to go next. Obama is wolf in sheeps clothing…Change? Not so much.
Posted by: mackie | January 7, 2010, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Neither were going to win, and now the Dems have a very good shot at keeping Dodd’s old seat in CT.
matt | Jan 7, 2010 8:24:00 AM
Dorgan was a good chance, and now the Democrats have no chance for his seat. Dodd was a gift (similar to Bunning being pushed out by the Republican party). It’s not all roses for either party, so far the retirement score is running about average, with Republicans likely benefiting from their much higher rate of retirement (there are a lot fewer Republicans, yet more retirements = much higher % retiring). Remember the Republican Senators running this year were elected hugging President Bush in 2004.
Posted by: jhw539 | January 7, 2010, 10:32 am 10:32 am
jhw, we, the American people, need to change the way we look at Washington. This isn’t a simple chess game anymore. This nation is in the fight of its life, and our leaders either don’t get it..or do, and have simply chosen to party like its 1999. What does a bankrupt state look like? 60 kids in a classroom? No fire dept? soup lines? exploding crime? Did you see pelosi laughing and dismissing the press the other day? Did you hear the gov of her state talking about California’s apocolypse? Pelosi’s biggest fear is a united American people..when you and me and Brian and Obummer and rightbehind stand together and turn our anger towards DC-at that moment WE can make REAL change and SAVE this country!
Posted by: cindy | January 7, 2010, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Since retirements from congress is now being used as metrics for direction of 2010 elections, let’s look at the actual numbers:
Senate:
- Number of DEM retirements = 2
- Number of GOP retirements = 6
House:
- Number of DEM retirements = 12
- Number of GOP retirements = 14
The beltway/media spin paints a different picture than what the actual numbers show.
Posted by: New Wave | January 7, 2010, 11:15 am 11:15 am
HEY ! Another chin-in-the-air Il Duce photo.
Posted by: Ron | January 7, 2010, 11:26 am 11:26 am
Forgot to mention, 18 more republican senate seats on the ballot in 2010. Lets outsource their jobs to single payer democrats!
Posted by: rightbehind | January 7, 2010, 11:39 am 11:39 am
By voting in favor of the healthcare bill’s passage – the democrats will be in effect voting themselves out of office in November. Government employees may have exempted themselves from the plan itself and the extra taxes it imposes. However their healthcare coverage isnt going to cover themselves shooting themselves in the foot political career wise.
Posted by: auntydemocrat2010 | January 7, 2010, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Courage is about voting for what is right for the people and not voting for what keeps one in office.
Posted by: New Wave | January 7, 2010, 11:57 am 11:57 am
Obamas transformation of America, is rapidly running out of steam, and now has become a victim of timing. Health Care attempt, is a mere wisper of its original intent, as written in HR3200, to socially reconstruct America.
Cap and Trade will get beatup, and mauled when it becomes Obamas second lighting rod, and will be watered down in the same fashion as the current Health Care bill, or whats left of it.
Time is not on his side, and time has now become a major weapon for his opposition – and it’s not just the GOP. Remember who really elected him – The independents, not the far left and the black block vote.
Nothing works better than “Checks & Balances” and the Nov. elections will remind us all how valuable this is, in insuring that the American form of government will always prove to be the best in the world.
Posted by: LPD | January 7, 2010, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
On Hardball yesterday, Chris Matthewss asked a Republican strategist to name one thing the Republican Party had done for America in the past 15 years.
The gentleman could not thing of anything, the belatedly remembered his talking point and blurted out “kept us safe”.
Then Chris Matthews asked if he meant the Republicans had kept us safe except for 9-11.
*crickets*
Posted by: New Wave | January 7, 2010, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
GOP Rep. Peter King’s suggestion on NBC yesterday to President Obama on keeping us safe: “use the word Terrorism more often”
That’s the GOP solution for our safety right?
This would be laughable if it is not so sad.
Posted by: New Wave | January 7, 2010, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
The only person Chris Matthews loves more than Obama is Chris Matthews.
I saw the show yesterday and saw a completley different exchange. Matthews and his other guest wouldn’t shut up long enough for the GOP guest to answer. I used to really like watching that show and then Matthews went completely over the top. Yesterday was a perfect example of why I stopped watching it. He was so obnoxious. I don’t even see a glimpse of the same host I saw three years ago.
Posted by: Tami | January 7, 2010, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
I wonder if this is still the United States by the people and for the people.You Democrates all need to be run out office due to the fact the health Bill is being forced on the people .Let the nation vote on it see what happens.I would like to see every Dempcrate thrown out office ans some rep. I am Independent bhut sure will never vcote for a democrate the party of lies deciest dictatorship.
Posted by: Joeray | January 7, 2010, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Obama and the liberals are going to force a health bill on us that they still claim won’t add to the deficit which anyone who ever balanced a checkbook knows is a LIE!
But in 2010 they plan on passing immigration reform. Well how would 20 million immigrants becoming eligible for free health care affect the budget numbers? Seriously if immigration reform is passed you can guarantee 20 million illegals will become US citizens and because they hold low paying jobs will become eligible for free health insurance. If the CBO analyzed the effects the report that followed would result in a devaluing of the dollar than nobody could imagine.
Posted by: TroubleComing | January 7, 2010, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
NewWave…name one thing the Republican Party had done for America in the past 15 years?
How about had the unemployment rate below 5%! I still wonder how good things could have stayed if the Democrats didn’t take over Congress in 2006.
Let’s be honest who really is responsible for the mess we are in.
Posted by: SurveySays | January 7, 2010, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
SurveySays: Are you referring to the unemployment rate that was promoted by the ‘smoke and mirrors’ financial schemes and GOP’s ownership society?
Posted by: New Wave | January 7, 2010, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
PS- I too used to not mind watching Matthews, he had a Pillsbury-dough-boyish quality to him..seemed like a good natured liberal..now he is nothing but a verbal bulldozer, and shockingly rude. My favorite liberals are Mike Barnacle and Juan Williams. I like to hear debate, not just spitting and yelling at others. I don’t like Sean Hannity because of that. I really like Glenn Beck because he is constantly quoting people’s own words from speeches and their own writings..really holds politicians accountable. (Plus he’s funny) His show is more like a poli-sci/econ 101 class..the facts can be depressing, but you learn alot!
Posted by: cindy | January 7, 2010, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
New Wave, GOP’s ownership society? Hmm, I think they all had a hand in that mucky pot..Barney Frank? Mr. “roll the dice” on fannie and freddie..Chris Dodd? “friend of Angelo” ..ACORN protesting in lobbies of banks that didn’t meet low-income, sub prime loan targets?? I thought hind sight was 20/20? The danger in misdiagnosing what got us here, is that we run the risk of doing it again. (and I think we are)
Posted by: cindy | January 7, 2010, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Cindy et al: Throwing words like ACORN into non-related posts really does not help anyone.
If GOPers care more about protecting we the consumers, why not support the financial consumer protection bill that bankers are lobbying against. It is the usual ‘do as I say but not as I do’ way of life, eh?
Posted by: New Wave | January 7, 2010, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Congress has bankrupted the country.
They jammed socialized medicine, TARP,
NAFTA, higher taxes and created huge
bureaucracies down our throats that are comprised of arrogant, incompetent, former burger clerks and given virtually unlimited authority to harass white American citizens.
They raised their own salaries and
benefits, are treated like royalty, and treat us like the dumb peons we are, for trusting them in the first place.
On Nov 2 .. the party’s over and those who are retiring know it!
Posted by: Praetorian Guardsman | January 7, 2010, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
We could all be surprised, you know. We could see defeat of the fondest dreams of the Obama Gang. We just might. Who knows? The news about Geithner’s escapades, the Obama Gang’s general incompetence, the Obama Gang’s misleading of moderates and progressives alike, and all the other scandalous things of the last year might indeed converge to create DeMint’s prediction of Obama’s Waterloo.
It will come at some point, but it would be really great if it could come now. With a bit more heat, I would bet money on Obama’s having a royal public snit that causes him to cry and run home, back to the cesspool out of which he crawled with his filthy, smarmy ideological cousins.
Posted by: tanarg | January 7, 2010, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
tanarg: dream on
Posted by: New Wave | January 7, 2010, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Hey Wave, I don’t get what you mean about ACORN being unrelated..you were writing about what got us into the domestic financial mess we are in. ACORN received millions in govt funds..your tax money, mine too. They were heavily involved in sub-prime housing. seriously, how are they not intertwined in this mess? PS- did you know that the Federal govt has purchased almost every single home loan made last year? About a trillion dollars worth.(talk about a big, new bubble.)
Posted by: cindy | January 7, 2010, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
I did not know that ACORN is a mortage company. Did they do the CDOs and CDSs securities? Glad to know that ACORN is in the league of AIG, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, CountryWide, etc.
Posted by: New Wave | January 7, 2010, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
wave..did you see the amazing documentary called “house of cards” on CNBC? It was awesome. What was made so clear was that from the poor construction worker in orange county all the way up to Allen Greenspan..everyone was greedy and ignorant. No, ACORN is not Goldman, I get it, the guy who lied about his income as a barista and bought a $600,000 home is not Madoff..but they were all infected with the same bug..GREED. Let’s not pretend ACORN has clean hands..They were pimping ignorant poor folks to mortgage companies and into loans they could not afford and you know it. ..why are you so ready to give ACORN a pass?
Posted by: cindy | January 7, 2010, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm