By Kristina Wong

Jan 12, 2010 6:02pm

More Food for Thought on Race

Two more studies to complement the three we referenced yesterday on the blog and in our Monday World News spot where we took a look what some are calling the unfortunate or uncomfortable truth behind Sen. Harry Reid’s suggestion that American society prefers lighter skinned African-Americans who don’t speak with what Reid called “Negro dialect.”

We’ll be taking another look at the issue tonight on Nightline.

In Political partisanship influences perception of biracial candidates’ skin tone, Eugene M. Caruso, Nicole L. Mead, and Emily Balcetis “demonstrate that political partisanship influences people’s visual representations of a biracial political candidate’s skin tone.”

Unbeknownst to participants, photographs of President Obama they were shown “had been altered to make the candidate’s skin tone either lighter or darker than it was in the original photograph.” The result was that “liberal participants were most likely to rate a lightened photograph of Obama as most representative of him, whereas conservative participants were most likely to rate a darkened photograph of Obama as most representative of him.”

And what of the dialect issue?

In Perceptual And Phonetic Experiments On American English Dialect Identification, Thomas Purnell, William Idsardi, and John Baugh conclude that the “ability to discern the use of a nonstandard dialect is often enough information to also determine the speaker’s ethnicity, and speakers may consequently suffer discrimination based on their speech.”

Tune in!

-jpt

User Comments

This has been an interesting series of reports. However, little in it is surprising or newly revealed, just that it’s surprising and newly stated information that few are willing to discuss without a great deal of degrading emotionalism involved (which you’ve avoided, which is great).
It’s not so much “discrimination,” though, in the emotionally derisive sense of that word and deed, that is of issue here, but it IS discrimination of individual decisions, like “what to buy” or “who to talk to” or “what color to wear” or “how I feel” and “who I don’t like and why”…
People (all of us, of every race and ethnicity) make “discriminatory” decisions based upon discriminatory perceptions daily hundreds of times over. The concept of discrimination has been taken to extremes, in my view, in most societies, going so far as to reprimand and punish people for exercising individual thoughts and making individual decisions, while, what discrimination is, essentially, is simply making decisions about one’s life if not survival on a daily basis. There really ARE some people and many things that are bad for us and our families and deciding to deflect those people and things is not a bad thing but a thing of survival and standards.
This isn’t to give a pass to what Reid said, however, since what he was saying was political usery and it was gratuitious and ugly, in my view. He was relishing in the “supremacy” of his views that racial dialect/s were to be avoided if his/party was to maintain success.
Law firms, for example, though, do discriminate against “regional dialects” and that includes anyone of any race (Southern accents discriminated against in the West and Northeast, for example, candidates passed up who aren’t “working on overcoming the dialect”), BUT, there’s a big difference in discriminating against someone’s race versus someone’s “dialect” and Reid was prejudicially citing that “Black dialect” thing which was Reid trying to hide a racial prejudice amidst his attempted-sanitized phrase.

Posted by: Citizen | January 12, 2010, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

The pictures are different, though.
The “lightened” Obama gives him a glow on his face, like the halo pictures that were so popular during his campaign.
The “darkened” Obama is the least cheerful picture.
It only makes sense that if someone you don’t agree with is in 3 pictures, you would think the least happy, glowing photo is most representative.

Posted by: MayBee | January 12, 2010, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

Interesting that the right wing concern with Reid’s comments do not stem with viewing the comments themselves as racist but rather as payback because of Trent Lott suffering political payback for making an odd claim about the virtues of segregation.

Posted by: Ryan C | January 12, 2010, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm

BUT, as to the “skin tone” issue, having seen numerous photos of Barack Obama (and his wife, for that matter) in more casual circumstances (not posed, not airbrushed or modified for magazine covers and publicity purposes), he IS darker in skin color (as is his wife) than the “sanitized” media/political leverage images depict. The thing that many of us voters distrust, however, more than that “skin tone” issue, is that he’s promoted as a “Black President” (just WHAT IS that?) and that he’s promoteed as being “Black” and “African American” at all. He’s Arab by majority of his genes with his mother’s partial Caucasian genes thrown in (but his grandfather looks like he has some African genes somewhere in his past )
I’m just saying that Obama’s been sold on entirely phony pitches. There ISN’T any office in the U.S. called “a Black President” for starters, and, what this declares is that there are many racists out there who are keen on Obama who find his “Black”ness (so they declare) appealing, that is, they’re racists, voting racially, discriminating racially.
And then there’s that phony, false origin issue as to Obama — an Arab who has both lied demonstratively about who he is and has been lied about inorder to elevate him into that “Black Presidency” thing.

Posted by: Citizen | January 12, 2010, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

I wish you luck on Nightline with this valuable piece of information. But Jake, there are many who just don’t want to Know. There are some who live not in understanding and knowledge, but anger, fear and hate…..All based on IGNORANCE. Just look at our country. Sad isn’t it. Read some of the comments on a daily basis. Sometimes it’s embarrassing to even read the outright ignorance (hate, division, fear) that is written. And the sad thing about it is Schools has nothing to do with it, as there’s plenty of materials on the Systematic and Institutionalized structure that set forth Racism and the many ways it is exhibited (socially, economically etc) and the effects of it. Some are just satified to call it “playing the race card”.

Posted by: sara | January 12, 2010, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

I don’t know Harry Reids heart, I don’t know if he was making a racist statement or trying to compliment someone he respected and it came out horribly wrong. In any case he said it, its done and life goes on. I don’t think he should resign.
However anyone who thinks that there is not a blatant double standard on who says what then they surely must be in some really dark hole somewhere. I cannot imagine the howls of resignation coming from Democratic circles had this been a republican and what Harry said is really mildly insulting as compared to what Willaim J. Clinton is written as saying to Kennedy.
And to have this stuff kept under wraps until now when all the dirt, misteps, mistakes that Palin made came out immediately, is simply cowardly journalism.

Posted by: david | January 12, 2010, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

because of Trent Lott suffering political payback for making an odd claim about the virtues of segregation.
Posted by: Ryan C |
Interesting how hard it is for the Democrats’ sycophants to accurately state what Lott said.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | January 12, 2010, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

“Interesting how hard it is for the Democrats’ sycophants to accurately state what Lott said.”
Hey I thought I was being kind.
Here’s the quote which I think is alot worse.
“When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We’re proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn’t have had all these problems over the years, either”
So if we had only voted for a segregationist, this country would have been a better place.

Posted by: Ryan C | January 12, 2010, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

“And then there’s that phony, false origin issue as to Obama — an Arab”
Odd that lately you find birtherism in right wing racist circles when its usually the other way around.

Posted by: Ryan C | January 12, 2010, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Only a dem could get away with it KKK Robert Byrd rin a bell.

Posted by: Daniel | January 12, 2010, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

“Only a dem could get away with it KKK Robert Byrd rin a bell.”
Yet again the right wing is not angry about racism or racist speech.
They are angry that they are actually called out on it.
That should really tell you all you need to know.

Posted by: Ryan C | January 12, 2010, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

It’s not just the US — the phenomenon of preferring light to dark skin is biological and transcultural. That may be a crappy fact, but it doesn’t mean we can’t be aware of it and choose not to act on it. There are lots of things we naturally want to do and decide not to — that is called civilization and acculturation.

Posted by: Chiara | January 12, 2010, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

I just love watching liberals play psycho-analytical twister over this..I really do. Frankly its so much more amusing than the cut and dry/zero tolerance response when a republican mouth strays off the ranch.

Posted by: cindy | January 12, 2010, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm

Interesting that the right wing concern with Reid’s comments do not stem with viewing the comments themselves as racist but rather as payback because of Trent Lott suffering political payback for making an odd claim about the virtues of segregation.
Posted by: Ryan C | Jan 12, 2010 6:39:44 PM
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Love your one size fits all broad brush.
I’ve not once mentioned or compared his comments to Lott’s comments. I’ve said from the beginning, Reid’s comments were racist. I don’t believe I called him a racist, but his comments were. He holds those racist opinions and/or thinks the majority of Americans do. There is no other way to spin his remarks, period. I don’t care how many studies Mr. Tapper can find and post here or even if the studies are accurate. It doesn’t make the beliefs less racist or “right”. As usual, your attempt to deflect the real matter at hand was a complete failure.

Posted by: jennifert7 | January 12, 2010, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm

“Love your one size fits all broad brush.”
Gee I thought you were an independent.
Why would my comments towards the right wing raise your personal defense?
Ya know unless you’ve been lying.

Posted by: Ryan C | January 12, 2010, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm

Ryan..cut through the baloney here..if you overheard someone talking about your qualifications to be the president of Harvard, GM, Sea World, the United States, whatever..and all they could say about you was, “well, he doesn’t have a strong midwestern accent and his acne scars are pretty much almost not noticable.”..how would that make you feel?.. Reid’s remarks were more condescending than anything else…and an insult to anybody who actually values qualified candidates applying for impt jobs.

Posted by: cindy | January 12, 2010, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

STOP, STOP with all the RAAAAACism talk. The nation is sick to death of it. We don’t need ABC to tell us about dialect or ‘light skinned negroes’. Ridiculous!

Posted by: Kathy Durrett | January 12, 2010, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

CBS and Rasmussen are now in perfect agreement: 46% approval. I suppose the yokels will now attack CBS for its bias.
CBS adds the delightful tidbit that 48% give Obama a failing grade for his first year in office. He has, indeed, failed, and he has lostthe confidence of the American people.
This causes me to laugh quite smugly, since I knew it would happen and correctly said so here many times.
Bad news for serfs and yokels.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | January 12, 2010, 8:47 pm 8:47 pm

Look Obama has a racial makeup of many varieties but his upbringing was elist and world travelling. His education was expensive (we dont know who paid yet) and highly elite. Obama is not “from the street”. Yes, he went to Chicago to agitate on the street to earn some political points but people like Rev.Jackson know the truth about Obama.
So when Obama, or Hillary, or Bush, fake an accent (whether “black”, “Texan”, “Good ol boy”, or in Hillary’s case “black preacher”) it is a political move. They don’t talk that way in their secret meetings with bankers, international corporations, and political handlers.

Posted by: Ed | January 12, 2010, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

His education was expensive (we dont know who paid yet) and highly elite.
Ed | Jan 12, 2010 8:54:42 PM
Elite – that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.

Posted by: jhw539 | January 12, 2010, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

Meanwhile the niece of Martin Luther King, Jr. called Reid’s remarks “sadly outrageous”.
It’s so fun to watch Obama, Reid, and hypocritical company bend over backwards for cover and propping each other up like an unsteady cardhouse. Nervously, eyes darting back and forth hoping America doesn’t see right through their blatant hypocrisy with awkward slaps on the back saying, “I’m okay, you’re okay” – just like the approach they’re taking to “fixing the economy”.
The Democrats are a joke.

Posted by: EPU | January 12, 2010, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm

Posted by: EPU | Jan 12, 2010 10:39:00 PM
You should have read what Malcolm X’s 5th cousin on his mother-in-law’s side had to say.

Posted by: tierra | January 13, 2010, 1:24 am 1:24 am

he went to Chicago to agitate on the street to earn some political points
Posted by: Ed
does that also mean the ‘tea party’ folks and their corporate sponsors are also showing up and ‘agitating’?
re: ‘I just love watching liberals play psycho-analytical twister over this
Posted by: cindy
so do I, it shows that Dems actually do some soul searching about the subject, republicans? well their xenophobic history speaks for itself..
btw: as Michael Steele recently said: ‘honest injun’

Posted by: Oh Yeah | January 13, 2010, 2:31 am 2:31 am

Leftists can twist this all they want, but the fact is that if a Republican politician had uttered the same words, he would have been forced to resign days ago. The media would have piled on and painted him as a sheet wearing Grand Dragon. Ya know, like Robert Byrd. I don’t think Reid should resign, but the hypocrisy is stunning and utterly indefensible.

Posted by: ConservativeWoman | January 13, 2010, 7:33 am 7:33 am

oh yeah..you totally misunderstood me. The psycho/analytical twister being played by DEMS and the media isn’t soul searching on their part..listen to Reid for heaven’s sake..I
“I’m done talking about this, I’m moving on”..no..this is the DEMS putting an endoscope down the mouths of everyone else..diligently checking for any malignant signs of racism. soul searching..? what a laugh.

Posted by: cindy | January 13, 2010, 7:42 am 7:42 am

RyanC wrote:
“Yet again the right wing is not angry about racism or racist speech. ”
=======================
Not really.
If you have some evidence of “right wing racism, could you please present it?
Your flailing accusations are amusing, but shed no light on the subject at hand.

Posted by: Pillar | January 13, 2010, 11:34 am 11:34 am

what a laugh.
Posted by: cindy
I must have imagined the arab, muslim, ‘not one of us’ republican 2008 campaign madness..
‘honest injun’ as Michael Steele recently said..
you don’t seem to be able to understand the difference between what Reid said and Lott’s enthusiasm for a segregationist for Pres pre civil rights..

Posted by: Oh Yeah | January 13, 2010, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

There is no other way to spin his remarks, period
.Posted by: jennifert7
Glen Beck, Rush, say Obama is ‘racist’, I suppose that’s accurate also? brings to mind the cretins singing the ‘magic negro song”, I must have missed the republican outrage and calls for rightwing media to be held accountable..

Posted by: Oh Yeah | January 13, 2010, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

“If you have some evidence of “right wing racism, could you please present it?”
Thankfully the right winger who shot up the Holocaust museum is now in hell.

Posted by: Ryan C | January 13, 2010, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

Posted by: Ryan C | Jan 13, 2010 2:51:41 PM
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This is your evidence? You indict every conservative person in this country due to the actions of one life long racist?
Absurd – you are still flailing.

Posted by: Pillar | January 13, 2010, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

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