By MichaelJames

Jan 23, 2010 6:00am

Obama Calls SCOTUS Ruling on Campaign Spending ‘Devastating’

ABC News’ Sunlen Miller reports:


President Obama used his weekly address to rail against Thursday’s U.S. Supreme Court ruling on corporate spending in political campaigns — calling it a “devastating” and “powerful blow” striking at democracy that he intends to fight against.


“The United States Supreme Court handed a huge victory to the special interests and their lobbyists – and a powerful blow to our efforts to rein in corporate influence,” Obama said. “This ruling strikes at our democracy itself.”


In a 5-4 decision on Thursday, the Supreme Court invalidated decades-old federal legislation restricting corporate spending in political campaigns.


The president said ruling essentially “opens the floodgates” for unlimited amounts of special interest money and gives those special interest lobbyists “new leverage.”


“That means that any public servant who has the courage to stand up to the special interests and stand up for the American people can find himself or herself under assault come election time,” President Obama said. ”Even foreign corporations may now get into the act.”


When the ruling came down, President Obama said, he instructed his administration to get to work immediately with members of Congress to developed a “forceful, bipartisan” response to the decision.


“We have begun that work, and it will be a priority for us until we repair the damage that has been done,” he said. “I can’t think of anything more devastating to the public interest. The last thing we need to do is hand more influence to the lobbyists in Washington, or more power to the special interests to tip the outcome of elections.”


The president said that the ruling will make it more difficult to pass his key agenda items – like health care and energy legislation, because foreign entities would be allowed to affect elections and the insurance industry would have ever more power.


“Teddy Roosevelt fought to limit special interest spending and influence over American political campaigns and warned of the impact of unbridled, corporate spending,” Obama said, pledging to fight. “His message rings as true as ever today, in this age of mass communications, when the decks are too often stacked against ordinary Americans.”


-Sunlen Miller

User Comments

OMG!!! The liberals are OUTRAGED!! The liberal and corporate MSM have been “shaping public opinion” for DECADES, and now they are outraged that a counter-argument may show up during the commercial breaks.
I’m certainly glad that they feel morally obligated to censure what I hear during the commercials – after all, they know that I can’t think for myself, and if I get a message that conflicts with their message, whatever would I do? I might not vote for THEM!!
Oh no!!
LOL

Posted by: Laughin__ALL__The_Way | January 23, 2010, 6:10 am 6:10 am

Just one more proof that this country is for sale to the highest bidder. Republicans are rejoicing obviously….They are are the top salesman and will line their pockets…And those average Americans who support this ruling are fools..

Posted by: indy_voter | January 23, 2010, 6:54 am 6:54 am

Nothing to do with principle, nothing to do with democracy, it’s just about who it benefits politically. As if money didn’t already influence politics, it’s not like unions, various interest groups, lobbyists, didn’t contribute money to candidates. Obama & his un-Democrats are hypocrites – if the court ruling had a political benefit for them, they would be singing another song.

Posted by: Terry | January 23, 2010, 7:02 am 7:02 am

You know its a good thing if obama is aganst it. Funny how it was ok for the unions and moveon.org to shape the elections but not corporate america. Cant wait to see the ads coming down the road in 2012 agaainst this socialist.

Posted by: Stanley | January 23, 2010, 7:46 am 7:46 am

The guy with the most cash.. is concerned about politicians getting more money (does he think we are stupid?).. also… don’t we have this court so that the executive and legislative branches don’t rule the whole deal.. he’s not making many friends lately and he sounds more and more disingenuous.. all the time.

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | January 23, 2010, 8:01 am 8:01 am

This is great!
Incumbent politicians are going to look like buffoons when business has the same access to freedom of speech as the government.
This decision takes a lot of wind out of the sails of tyranny,so you know they won’t give up easy.We need to kick them hard in November.We’ve got 100 years of so called “progressive” policies to undue.

Posted by: marxkilla | January 23, 2010, 8:15 am 8:15 am

If you find a watch, there has to be a watchmaker. The fault is not Mr. Obama, it’s those who elected him.

Posted by: young_voter | January 23, 2010, 8:26 am 8:26 am

This has to be the worst ruling in the history of the US. Even more so than the cheats that got W elected both times. Greed has had a hand in running this country for generations, now they and the Republicans are driving the bus and I just hope its not straight to the darkest hole in hell because greed and corruption are all because of money and gain, we need balance not one side over the other.

Posted by: Dave | January 23, 2010, 8:41 am 8:41 am

hmmm- this from the guy that turned off the credit card validity checks on his campaign donation web pages.
I saw step by step demonstrations of people donating money in the name of Daffy Duck and Deputy Dawg on that site… and now suddenly president arugula is concerned with campaign funding laws?
I also seem to remember obama pledging he would only take public funding in the general election…how’d that work out again?
Ah, love the smell of hypocritical outrage from political hacks from the Chicago Machine.
Smells…like…hot garbage.

Posted by: 2Brixshy | January 23, 2010, 8:45 am 8:45 am

Boo-hoo. Obama outspent Mccain 3 to 1, refused to take public financing as he vowed he would do, got mega support from unions on those Soros funded groups and now he doesn’t like American corporations getting into the act?
I like many despise campaign season and the cheesie promises, the smears and false promises but this protest of his is just a bit much. Besides, he will be able to have companies indebted to him, run ads for him or the Democrats so what’s his fuss?

Posted by: david | January 23, 2010, 8:57 am 8:57 am

I’m no Obama fan.
But this ruling is a bad one.
Unions and corporations are not citizens.
Only citizens who are qualified to vote for a candidate should be able to donate.
For example, if you live in District 3, you can vote for and donate to a District 3 candidate. But you should not be able to vote for or donate to a District 1, 2 or 4 candidate.
If a corporate exec or union boss likes a candidate, let them spend their OWN money on a candidate that they are legally qualified to vote for.
Fat cats in California and New York should not be able to buy elections in Wisconsin and Kansas.

Posted by: Joe White | January 23, 2010, 9:09 am 9:09 am

CNN poll: 60% do NOT believe any HC reform will pass this year.

Posted by: austin | January 23, 2010, 9:26 am 9:26 am

“. . . decks are too often stacked against ordinary Americans. . . ” BARACK OBAMA
Haven’t the decks been stacked against ordinary Americans by Obama, who first said he “didn’t notice” the tea party protesters outside the WH, and then dismissed them as “people waving teabags.” I’m surprised he didn’t term them “little people waving teabags,” because that’s what he meant.
There is a big tea party movement in the Midwestern state where I live, and I know several tea partiers who donated to Scott Brown’s campaign.
Denigrating the tea partiers was a BIG, BIG mistake by the Democratic Party and the Administration.

Posted by: Ida R. | January 23, 2010, 9:31 am 9:31 am

Its time to start revoking corporate charters. These are creations of the state that have become much more powerful that the government.
Corporations now decide what people get assistance when they are needy, they decide what 90% of the US reads and watches, they decide which laws get passed and which don’t.
If you finally woke up during the health insurance debate and finally saw how corporations manipulate our congress, you should know that its ten times worse on the state level, as states are even weaker than congress in the face of corporate power.
FDR: “I welcome their hatred”
Obama: “I’m willing to work with anyone”

Posted by: Flash Override | January 23, 2010, 9:32 am 9:32 am

Pretty tough words from a fellow who received nearly $20 million from the insurance industry, more from banking, and millions for overseas donors. There are 36,000 professional lobbyists in Washington at this moment. Until that changes, nothing else will.

Posted by: h5mind | January 23, 2010, 9:32 am 9:32 am

Wah, wah, wah. Hey, Messiah, weren’t you the one who rejected public campaign financing when you realized you could get more money over the Internet? And we’re supposed to believe all those campaign donations were legit?

Posted by: Teresa | January 23, 2010, 9:35 am 9:35 am

Obama doesn’t mind the influence of SEIU, Acorn, George Soros or labor unions on government or the election process. He just doesn’t want the “evil capitalist corporations” to have a say.

Posted by: Tom | January 23, 2010, 9:37 am 9:37 am

“Fascism is Corporatism”
-the only definition of fascism ever given by its premier theorist and advocate, B. Mussolini

Posted by: Flash Override | January 23, 2010, 9:38 am 9:38 am

If it ticks off Yomama Obama and the rest of the Dems then it had to have been the correct ruling.

Posted by: 'Un-American' | January 23, 2010, 9:42 am 9:42 am

I’m so sick and tired of hearing all the compalining about labor unions. They will be the very small fish in the ocean of this ruling. It’s the big companies like the big banks that will benefit the most. Of course the Republicans are rejoicing as they are the ones that will benefit the most because they are always on the side of Big Business rather than the average worker. How do you all think this current mess started. It started with the Republican controlled congress in 1999 and leading the way with deregulation was Phil Gramm from Texas getting the Glass-Stegall act repealed that allowed investment banks and commercial banks to join. Just look where that got the US. Now, these big companies will have even more reign to get regulations off the books.
The Republicans are always so worried about illegal aliens in this country. Well guess what, some of these big corporations have foreign heads of the companies that will now be dictating who gets elected in this country (Hmmm … like CITGO with strong Venzuelan ties and who is the leader of that country … Hugo Chavez… wonder if he’ll have some imput in our elections). Let’s face it if a coporation puts up big money to get someone elected they will certainly expect something in return. I’ve heard it said won’t be electing Senators or Representatives from New Jersey or Kansas or wherever, we’ll be electing Senators and Representatives from Texaco or Microsoft or dare I say AIG. No more complaining about big bonuses.
The Republicans were all up in arms and this all came about because their smear campaign “Hillary, The Movie” was not shown during the campaigns. But I’ll bet any money when an unflattering movie like maybe “Sarah, The Movie” of “Scott Brown, The Movie” comes out then the Republicans will start crying foul.
Be careful what you wish for Republicans, this all could come back to bite you in the butt. Just remember you all got everyone up in arms about Bill Clinton and the intern and then the country found out about your philanderers like Newt Gingrich, Mark Sanford and John Ensign. Hey, I don’t see any Republicans in Congress saying much about John Edwards and the baby.. could it be they are shaking in their shoes hoping that one of their indiscretions does not show up with a baby in tow.

Posted by: What the Hey | January 23, 2010, 9:44 am 9:44 am

I am glad that freedom of speech prevailed. A person should be able to express their views without worrying that big brother will put you in jail or fine you for it.

Posted by: Jeff | January 23, 2010, 9:52 am 9:52 am

“I’m so sick and tired of hearing all the compalining about labor unions.”
And you are probably going to keep hearing it, especially when comments from the Presdient are that he will confer with SEIU when considering health care or that tax payer bailout funds went to unions, as well the as banks.
And being “hollier than thou” about who funds what is a joke, we all know they all spend far too much money and that each side has a big support…from who knows where. And the claim stands that Obama outspent far greater than Mccain who did “honor” his commitment to take public financing while Obama threw that promise under the bus.
Sorry, your rant is full of holes.

Posted by: david | January 23, 2010, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Obamba had no problem with spending and accepting money for his campaign. Obama even said he would stay within limits (like Mccain) before he did the opposite. So, the reality is it is okay for unions (liberal (progressives-socialists) talking points) to spend money, but when it is against liberals (progressives-socialists)

Posted by: joe | January 23, 2010, 10:07 am 10:07 am

“Mccain who did “honor” his commitment to take public financing”
Are you kidding me? don’t you read anything except right wing talking points?
McCain illegally dropped out of public financing in the general election after taking a questionable (at best) loan against the public money he would be receiving.
He therefore violated both the terms of the loan and the law he helped to write.

Posted by: Flash Override | January 23, 2010, 10:09 am 10:09 am

Obama is one to comment about campaign
financing, saying one thing and then
doing something else. Any ruling leaves
the little guy out. Its a cluster and
where there is power, there is money.
Regular everyday people will have to
use common sense, do their research
and vote accordingly. It worked in
Mass. and it can work on a broader
scale.

Posted by: wis134 | January 23, 2010, 10:15 am 10:15 am

The Supreme Court does it again, as in theh 2000 election. They are telling the American People that Money talks and you the American People (B.S) walks.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 23, 2010, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Tea Bag people should be on notice, that you think Health care bill stinks. Wait until the Old English Judiciary get though with you.
1. A judge TERM is for LIFE.
2. A judge is appointed not ELECTED.
3. A judge is IMMUNE FROM THE LAW.
4. A Judge makes LAW enforceable as they see fit.
No chance for the election process to work with Haliburton cash on the HILL.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 23, 2010, 10:30 am 10:30 am

Wrong again, Obama. The “devastation” comes from the left’s attempts to limit and eliminate free speech. The court’s decision is a boon to democracy and freedom of speech.

Posted by: rplat | January 23, 2010, 10:32 am 10:32 am

The bill that George B. pasted in 2005 took your right to freedom of Speech, now this bill will take your vote away with a bias source of knowledge about candidates.
Are you insane, money is the key, not freedom of speech, MONEY will TALK. Unless you are one of the Filthy Rich, the Supreme Court just said SHUT UP.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 23, 2010, 10:37 am 10:37 am

The Obama/Pelosi/Reid train has wrecked!
Obama, the liberals in Congress and the biased media based the entire 2008 campaign on lies and most Americans bought them. He said what we wanted to hear and, after the election, he has done as he pleased.
Obama is clueless as to what is happening around him and all he can do is look for a fall guy to blame it on. He is the man — the buck stops at his desk. He should man up and take responsibility for all of the foul ups in the last year.
He should have been working for Americans — not romancing foreigners and ignoring what “we the people” wanted.
NOW that his corrupt administration is in trouble, he is back-peddling and flip-flopping. He simply cannot be trusted.
Scott Brown for President in 2012!

Posted by: 1CAROLINAUNC | January 23, 2010, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Huh?? — Is this statement coming from the former Presidential candidate who dismissed public funding becaue he knew he could get more from special interest groups?????

Posted by: HoosierValues | January 23, 2010, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Since Obama is Commander in Chief of the military, he should just send in a platoon of Marines to gun down those idiotic Supreme Court Justices. We dont need a Supreme Court. It’s nonsensical

Posted by: stan | January 23, 2010, 10:42 am 10:42 am

A bill should be passed to limit the TERM of a JUDGE, A JUDGE should be elected not appointed (as KING’S of ENGLAND used to DO), a JUDGE should not have immunity for violation of the LAW.
THE LOBBYIST ARE THE UNDISPUTED WINNER, given to by the SUPREME COURT.
DON KING COULD NOT DO BETTER.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 23, 2010, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Change the title of the article to be more accurate: “The election of Obama has been devastating to democracy”

Posted by: ncpilot10 | January 23, 2010, 10:57 am 10:57 am

It’s clear from these comments and those of Obama that the lefties have no interest in freedom of speech. It was Obama who didn’t take public financing, but then had no checks and balances on his website to monitor online contributions. How much money came from foreign donors We’ll never know because his website should have automatically rejected those donors, yet didn’t. Hillary and McCain operated under the campaign finance law. Obama believes campaign finance laws are made to be broken.

Posted by: ConservativeWoman | January 23, 2010, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Yeah, I guess if you want to simply impose your will without any of those pesky Bill of Rights restrictions, you’d be upset by this affirmation of the Freedom of Speech. For someone who spends a great deal of time controlling the message, any risk that the other side of his story could be publicized is very threatening. No wonder he’s so ticked off.

Posted by: BubblerDad | January 23, 2010, 10:58 am 10:58 am

There is nothing more devastating to democracy then Barack Obama!

Posted by: Alex | January 23, 2010, 10:59 am 10:59 am

President Obama wants to keep the front door closed because the back door money from his friends like George Soros gives him an advantage.

Posted by: hkdakota | January 23, 2010, 11:04 am 11:04 am

this is really an odd comment from obama, since he’s been a socialist-type ruler for a year now. seems the only free speach he and administration want is his and theirs.

Posted by: Joseph Chainpuller | January 23, 2010, 11:08 am 11:08 am

He’ll change his mind in 2012.

Posted by: LongT | January 23, 2010, 11:11 am 11:11 am

Don’t make Obama mad, he will open his man child mouth, and cause the market to drop another 530 points, further causing the middle class pain

Posted by: another crisis, another photo-op | January 23, 2010, 11:12 am 11:12 am

I guess he’s afraid he will not be able to raise $750 million again and plenty of that was questionable

Posted by: 'Un-American' | January 23, 2010, 11:13 am 11:13 am

Soooo BO is against our most basic right “Freedom of Speech” … figures…. that’s the way Socialist are……

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 23, 2010, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Corporations and unions are NOT people with the same rights. They do not vote as a whole and the money contributed by these entities does not give then the right to spin and pervert information to the public. To have free speech and a free vote requires that people has access to correct and objective information. This decision is another “Dred Scott” mistake and will haunt the judges who made this disgusting decision.

Posted by: Liz Mezger | January 23, 2010, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Good for Obama!!! The American people should be demanding that lobbyists and corporations should have less influence in our politics, not more. And all these posts taking aim at Obama are right-wing fire breathers who want nothing less than total freedom to to do as they please without any government interference…heaven forbid that we should have any laws that restrict big business!

Posted by: sosupernova | January 23, 2010, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Don’t you love how fast corp America moved to post on these boards with smoke and mirrors? Freedom of speech rights for a ‘thing’, changing the subject to campaign abuses now? We’re not that stupid. We, the people, have been trying to rein you in for decades. There is no way we would be happy with us and our country being given to the business or country with the most money. It doesn’t matter what side of the fence we’re on politically there is NO way we want banks, ins. companies and the rest of corp. America, or foreign companies posing as Americans, controlling our lives even more. Tell me Justice Roberts how does it feel to sell out your country?

Posted by: NJ | January 23, 2010, 11:17 am 11:17 am

As a native Washingtonian who has worked in politics and lived overseas I applaud President Obama. His clear, unobstructed vision and great sense of history and ethics is indeed reminiscent of President Teddy Roosevelt. He is clearly leading the fight, our fight, to be heard.

Posted by: michael pasquet | January 23, 2010, 11:19 am 11:19 am

I really don’t understand what he’s so upset over. He proved in 2008 that he’d take money from whoever and wherever. Does he really think people have forgot his private (people, unions, and corporate) contributions outstripped McCain something like 4 to 1? This guy is hard to figure out.

Posted by: LongT | January 23, 2010, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Ah. The classic battle between those who would rather not work, live off the fat of the land, overpopulate it by any means they want;…. and those responsible people who understand that a good day is earned through work and sacrifice. Gotta love it.

Posted by: J Kline | January 23, 2010, 11:21 am 11:21 am

HHAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHA………………”public servant who has the courage to stand up to the “Special interests” This is a VERY funny statement from our liar in chief BO.. HE just PAID off his “Special Interests” the Unions in order to get support for his Socialist Healthfare Plan…..

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 23, 2010, 11:21 am 11:21 am

LOBBYIST are soon to be running the Country, with a free hand,for the Corporations then the Corporations will run the military soon after that , not just blackwater or xe but all of it. Corporate wars will start and the winner will be someone like Hitler. DO you want that again ?

Posted by: less than 10 years from now | January 23, 2010, 11:21 am 11:21 am

What is it with you morons that hate corporate America. Who do you thinks creates the jobs? Does it tick you people off that you have to work and that the top of the ladder makes more money? If you had to do thier job do you think you could?

Posted by: 'Un-American' | January 23, 2010, 11:21 am 11:21 am

I can disagree with Obama and his policies while totalling ignoring that he is a light skinned african American who doesn’t speak Negro unless he wants to. I’m not offended by his race…I am offended by the damage he has done and seems to want to do to my country. If he were lily white and did the same things, I would condemn him just the same. If, God forbid, he were to die in office and be replaced by that clown Biden, and the policies of this administration continued, I would say the same things about Biden. And he is a light skinned Irish American that doesn’t speak with a brogue unless he wants to.

Posted by: ncpilot10 | January 23, 2010, 11:22 am 11:22 am

Obama raised $750 million in campaign donations from special interests and corporations. Now we are supposed to believe that he is “outraged”? Please!

Posted by: Cw | January 23, 2010, 11:22 am 11:22 am

This president is so disgusting! Does he really think that we are not aware of his ‘….buying…’ the unions and their votes? Does he really think that when he was a part of ACORN and gives them all they want that he is not ‘…buying…’ their votes? Does he really think that his talks of amnesty for ‘illegals’ is not ‘…buying’ their votes?
IS THERE SOMEITHING MENTALLY WRONG
WITH OUR PRESIDENT?

Posted by: tess | January 23, 2010, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Obama is complaining about the ruling is a joke. Obama just made a back door deal with the Unions. Closed door deal with Big Pharma. Lobbyist are all over the White House. Obama is full of it.!!

Posted by: Cw | January 23, 2010, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Remember this feigned outrage in 2012.

Posted by: LongT | January 23, 2010, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Good grief! just look at the SEC home page or “OPENGOV” and see where the donations to the DNC are coming from. Wall Street. Pharmaceuticals. Insurance companies. Banks. What is Obama crying about??? He’s benefiting more than anyone. He’s a kicked dog just looking for a smaller dog to bite.

Posted by: ncpilot10 | January 23, 2010, 11:26 am 11:26 am

“Special Interest”….. ya and out Socialist President BO will decide which “Special Interest” are OK, and which ones aren’t……. right out of Valenzuela’s, Hugo Chivas playbook

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 23, 2010, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Obama raised $750 million in campaign donations from special interests and corporations. Now we are supposed to believe that he is “outraged”? Please!
Posted by: Cw | Jan 23, 2010 11:22:58 AM********
And you think McCain’s campaign contributions were orchestrated by Mother Theresa? Yeh right! LOL

Posted by: spacerook1 | January 23, 2010, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Some of you right-wingers really have something wrong with you. No matter what the legislation, it’s all about WHO and what PARTY was for or against it.
I find it very difficult to believe that ALL of you, especially the more average among you, don’t have a problem with Corporate interference into the American way of life.
Try growing a set and stand up for what you believe instead of dissing everything simply because it’s popular in your party to do so.

Posted by: Troy Street | January 23, 2010, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Lobbyists and Corporations are ALREADY running the country. Obama was bought and paid for by Corporations and lobbyists.

Posted by: Cw | January 23, 2010, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Posted by: What the Hey
Your post is quite biased. For one thing Clinton signed Glass-Steagall into law. For another, if KSM is entitled to rights then why isn’t Hugo Chavez? Your screaming for the rights of terrorists but now you want to pick and choose who gets rights. Second, let’s take a look at foreign campaign donations and who got them in the last election, it was Obama who got donations from Hezbollah. This ruling didn’t negate libel, it only upholds free speech and even you can’t dictate who gets to speak.

Posted by: Ferrari5858 | January 23, 2010, 11:29 am 11:29 am

One term President. That is one term too many.

Posted by: Cw | January 23, 2010, 11:29 am 11:29 am

BO’s devastated. alright. He just hates that ‘defect’ in the Constitution called the second amendment.

Posted by: cairnwalker | January 23, 2010, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Soooo BO is against our most basic right “Freedom of Speech” … figures…. that’s the way Socialist are……
Posted by: Vet1973 |*******************************
Now we can let the drug cartels donate all they
want the the repubicans next election. What a fiasco
this will turn out to be.

Posted by: spacerook1 | January 23, 2010, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Some of you right-wingers really have something wrong with you. No matter what the legislation, it’s all about WHO and what PARTY was for or against it.
I find it very difficult to believe that ALL of you, especially the more average among you, don’t have a problem with Corporate interference into the American way of life.
Try growing a set and stand up for what you believe instead of dissing everything simply because it’s popular in your party to do so.
Posted by: Troy Street | Jan 23, 2010 11:27:49 AM
How did we make it all those years without Mccain Fiengold? We had Clinton, Bush,& Reagan during those times. I wont bring up Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: 'Un-American' | January 23, 2010, 11:31 am 11:31 am

I have grown a set, and i will stand up for what I believe in. And this is my belief: I would much rather have “corporate America” interfering with my life than to have the Federal Government interfering with it. At least with Corporate America, I can do business with a different corporation. The Federal government is the only game in town…and when they take over my life, i have no where else to turn. And the Constitution that has kept this country the envy of the world was constructed with the idea of a minimal FEDERAL government. And for good reason

Posted by: ncpilot10 | January 23, 2010, 11:32 am 11:32 am

This decision by the US Supreme Court only strengthens our freedom of speech. Liberal politicians like Obama will argue it gives more strength to special interest groups and lobbyists – but is that what he’s really afraid of? No – he’s afraid that you as a voter will get “misinformed” and not be able to make an appropriate decision. Obama doesn’t want you to think for yourself – in fact, most Liberals are like lawyers – they really believe they can make better decisions than you can regarding the direction of the nation. They are afraid more information will cloud your judgment. Well they are wrong – because an empowered electorate is what brings about the greatest democracy.

Posted by: ThomasJeffersonLives | January 23, 2010, 11:32 am 11:32 am

To: ‘Un-American’
I took a 8% paycut lost 1 week vac.
our company took bankruptcy.
yet over 150 corporate uppers got bonues from 20,000 – 1,500,000.
I do not trust them with my insurance
, our union voted to manage our own plan guess what the cost is less and no one has had a problem doctors paid, they do it in 10 days. We now know the company was making money from our insurance when they had it !!

Posted by: LOOK | January 23, 2010, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Spacerook1 or is that Space Rock 1, the people like myself gave money to Obama in small amounts, just as they are giving to Haiti. It show the real power of the peoples dollar when it counts. It should make you lobbyist shake in your boots.
That is why the Supreme Court Justices have been payed off to make such a decision. FEAR OF THE PEOPLE, WEAKNESS IN BIG BUSINESS INFLUENCE OVER GOVT.
WE THE PEOPLE. WILL PREVAIL. AMERICANS, NOT RIGHTWING SOCIALIST.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 23, 2010, 11:33 am 11:33 am

The bickering of the little people over liberal vs. conservative, Carter vs. Reagan, left/right…oh it all works out quite well for a few of them.
As a democratic republic it’s crucial to recognize that letting organized capital, corporations, have a voice as if such organizations have personhood is corrosive to our collective freedom as a sovereign people. I think every organization that contributes to the political process should be internally organized at least as democratically as the republic invisioned by the founders of this nation. Otherwise, such entities along with churches should be viewed as sovereign and separate from the political debate. Failing to clarify and enforce such a separation has led to non-democratic organizations, in essence dictatorships and plutocracies, undermining our constitutional concept of a democratic republic.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Yes Corporate America has become EVIL

Posted by: Sally | January 23, 2010, 11:36 am 11:36 am

To: ‘Un-American’
I took a 8% paycut lost 1 week vac.
our company took bankruptcy.
yet over 150 corporate uppers got bonues from 20,000 – 1,500,000.
I do not trust them with my insurance
, our union voted to manage our own plan guess what the cost is less and no one has had a problem doctors paid, they do it in 10 days. We now know the company was making money from our insurance when they had it !!
Posted by: LOOK | Jan 23, 2010 11:32:55 AM
Ok but you said “union” that’s part of the problem where I live every plant that had a union either shut down or moved. That’s what happens when you pay someone $19 an hour to sweep the floor

Posted by: 'Un-American' | January 23, 2010, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Underdog….”RIGHT WING SOCIALIST” is an oxymoron. There is no such thing. Kinda like a “Jumbo Shrimp” or “Liberal Intellectual” They just don’t exist. Try studying politics for a bit.

Posted by: ncpilot10 | January 23, 2010, 11:37 am 11:37 am

So, what George Soros did for Obama in the last election now is legal but Obama opposes it? Strange how “what’s good for the goose is now NOT good for the gander”.

Posted by: Bob | January 23, 2010, 11:39 am 11:39 am

Obama is right – this is a sad day for what is supposed to be a free country.

Posted by: DeepThinker | January 23, 2010, 11:39 am 11:39 am

The “sad day for this country” happened on the first Tuesday in November of 2008.

Posted by: ncpilot10 | January 23, 2010, 11:40 am 11:40 am

For all you right wing nutters claiming Obama got money from special interest did you noticed your team got it also? Apparently you think two wrongs make a right and now you think it’s even better becasue you will get more $$ and Corporations will have GREAT influence over elections. And you think this is good? How’s this for an idea. WE GET RID OF ALL OF IT!!! FOR ALL SIDES. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Posted by: bp | January 23, 2010, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Try looking at the present tense. When you have corruption as you did with Enron, Jack Maddoff, the Oil Companies ripe-off of 2007 and 2008. Big Bank payoff of 2008, that went unmonitored.
Socialism is exactly what it was, where the elite rich was in control.
This is not the 1950′s, it is the year of 2010.
WAKE UP.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 23, 2010, 11:41 am 11:41 am

Our Bill of Rights DOES NOT say “Freedom of Speech” except for the people who work for unions and corporations…. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 23, 2010, 11:42 am 11:42 am

With this ruling, Hugo Chavez, China, Saudi Arabia now should have as much right as Exxon and all global organized capital to contribute to the political debate of this nation. The people have lost even more sovereignty.
Separation of organized non-democratic entities which includes churches are defying the constitution and winning with this betrayal of trust.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 11:42 am 11:42 am

Yes, bp, we noticed that our side got it too. None of us right wing nutters has claimed otherwise. And it is not us that are whining about the Supreme Court ruling evening up the playing field. So what’s your point???

Posted by: ncpilot10 | January 23, 2010, 11:42 am 11:42 am

bp; You are right. Two wrongs don’t make a right. But only one of the wrongs here is showing it’s hypocricy on the issue.

Posted by: LongT | January 23, 2010, 11:42 am 11:42 am

We will beat this new republican ploy
same old stuff they have done for 9 years now. You need new Defensive Positions.
the right wing is fading and they are yelling anything they think someone will fall for. SORRY no more republicans for me.

Posted by: Dan Hester | January 23, 2010, 11:43 am 11:43 am

j Kline says ***Ah. The classic battle between those who would rather not work, live off the fat of the land, overpopulate it by any means they want;…. and those responsible people who understand that a good day is earned through work and sacrifice. Gotta love it.*** And what does this rambling have to do with Corporations influencing our elections? How would you feel if the corp you worked at gave millions to the candidate you opposed? They have millions to push their candidate and you have 10 bucks. Yeah it’s a good thing ….NOT.

Posted by: bp | January 23, 2010, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Mr. Hester…”ploy” is a cool word. Now how in the world does the SCOTUS ruling end up being a “ploy”? Please explain to this poor dumb right wing nutter….I’d love to see how this is a ploy. Oh, yeah…”ploy”. another “word of the day” from the DNC hate mongers….gotcha.

Posted by: ncpilot10 | January 23, 2010, 11:46 am 11:46 am

It’s obvious that the left DOES NOT actually believe in “Freedom of Speech”… THEY will decide whose speech is OK and whose IS NOT ok…….

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 23, 2010, 11:46 am 11:46 am

The Socialist rightwing will determine who will work, who will live in a home and who will live in a project. They will determine who gets a loan, or who will not.
They will have complete control of your life.
You will be only a number when it comes to an election and the Big Corp. will remember that number.
Your social security number is linked in the George’s bill of Homeland Security Right’s Bill. (Read it, that is where your freedom of speech went down the tubes) If you are not RICH, this decision says SHUT UP

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 23, 2010, 11:47 am 11:47 am

As for labor unions, if they are not interally organized in the manner of our republic then like churches they should be separate and sovereign from the political debate. Our republic is being severely eroded by organized capital, corporations, which are plutocracies not democratic republics. If the majority of United States citizens wish to have a plutocracy or a dictatorship, a majority vote can make this change. It would be constitutional to put it up for a vote I believe.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 11:47 am 11:47 am

bp…the unions give millions of dollars to the Democrats, and the individual union members often prefer to vote for a Republican….But you are okay with that, right??

Posted by: ncpilot10 | January 23, 2010, 11:48 am 11:48 am

If it’s true that corporations AND unions must disclose their ad funding, then people are still free to decide? I mean voters may just not like any one of them spending on any one candidate and go the other way. Right?

Posted by: LongT | January 23, 2010, 11:49 am 11:49 am

A REAL Ignorant statement from BO…. who took an oath to Uphold and defend our Constitution….

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 23, 2010, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Every thing Obama complained about in his weekly address applies to HIM, his own previous elections, and the democratic political agenda! It’s very insulting that Obama thinks we are all idiots. The only reason Obama is president is because of special interests and lobbyists, period. This guys double talk just infuriates me. Obama is the quintessential politician, it’s all lip service, double talk and lies. What makes any believe he’s any different than the fibbing John Edwards? Folks, he’s just a politician, nothing more. He’s not an economist, not a businessman, not a doctor, not a brilliant man…just a common charismatic politician who reads scripts written by young people who’ve never had to work a real job in their lives.

Posted by: David | January 23, 2010, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Obama’s ‘outrage’ will soften by 2012. Mark my words.

Posted by: LongT | January 23, 2010, 11:51 am 11:51 am

vet1973…Obama promised to uphold the Constitution. Only thing is, no one told him which country’s constitution he was supposed to uphold.

Posted by: ncpilot10 | January 23, 2010, 11:52 am 11:52 am

I don’t really like the SCOTUS ruling myself, but the hypocrisy from the left (on this particular issue) is getting to be a bit too much.

Posted by: LongT | January 23, 2010, 11:56 am 11:56 am

This man just lost my support. He blames others for his failures and speaks above us like we are fools. Well, we were, but not anymore. By the time he is through in three years, he will have set back race relations 50 years, the economy by 100 years and the Republic may be lost.

Posted by: Amos Bosco | January 23, 2010, 11:57 am 11:57 am

AMAZING, an American President who is opposed to freedom of speech !

Posted by: Ron | January 23, 2010, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Free speech is not unlimited speech. There are restrictions on speech, this doesn’t negate libel or any other restrictions on so called ‘free speech’. And there are collective organizations that put out ads, should moveon.org be denied free speech just because they are a collective organization who raises millions and advertises for the sole purpose of promoting a liberal ideology?

Posted by: Ferrari5858 | January 23, 2010, 11:58 am 11:58 am

It is my opinion that we should celebrate July the 4th as “Back to the English Surf System Day”. Independence Day, is gone with a Supreme Court that can be paid-off with Corp. dollars.
Just as your voting rights will be gone, if this decision is not stopped.
Big business will lay you off to give money to lobbyist to pay for what they want, “SLAVE LABOR”.
AMERICA GREW FASTER THAN ANY NATION BECAUSE OF THE SLAVE TRADE OF AMERICA BEGINNING.
FREE LABOR, WOW, FOR THOSE RIGHT WINGERS THAT ARE POOR, HOW MUCH CAN I BUY YOU FOR.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 23, 2010, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

It’s time to quite trashing each other. If we truly wish to save our republic, we must come together as a majority and resist tyranny. That will mean sacrifice on the part of all sides who have some gain from the current system which has become deviant from the vision. The voices heard should by the founding vision be only individual citizens or citizens organized in a manner like our government which is a not for profit democratic republic. We continue to lose the freedom that the concept of a democratic republic provides us all. A house divided will not stand. Non-democratic special interests are corroding our nation.
If business wants a political voice like labor unions then business should function like a democratic republic or go about their sovereign business and stay away from the political debate of the people. The United States was founded in revolt against Oligarchies and a monied elite ruling class.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Amazing BO thinks that the Supreme Court was wrong in telling Congress that they cannot create laws “prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech”………….. hey BO if your going to restrict these boogiemen corporations…. lets restrict what the Press can do during elections….. no MORE endorsing candidates… no more “exclusive interviews with softball questions that the Networks play over and over and over….

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 23, 2010, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

SO HOW DOES Mr. O’Babble feel about political contributions by labor unions ?

Posted by: Ron | January 23, 2010, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

The lead story headline applies to Obama as well as Haiti: ‘EXCEPT FOR MIRACLES, HOPE IS…FADING’

Posted by: temple62 | January 23, 2010, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

God bless you Pres. Obama!! Givem H_ll!!
ABC, you and the other “news” outlets are incompetent. Why are you not devoting more time to this devestating blow to democracy. Or do you not care about democracy

Posted by: DemandSide | January 23, 2010, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

I’ve always known that Obama knows nothing about Constitutional law. The Supreme Court has just taught him a lesson.
Just as the voters of Massacusetts taught him a lesson on Tuesday.
Been a fabulous week for those who love liberty. For the statists, not so much.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | January 23, 2010, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

A LABOR UNION IS NOT FOR PROFIT, DON’T YOU GET IT.
A FOOL MAKES THE SAME MISTAKE OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
PUT THOSE GREEDY REPUBLICANS BACK IN OFFICE AND YOU WILL BE RIGHT BACK WHERE YOU WERE IN 2007, MAYBE THIS TIME IT WILL BE YOUR HOME THAT GOES INTO FORECLOSURE.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 23, 2010, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

ITS OK for BO to TRASH and demean Corporations to get elected on NATIONAL TV over and over and over…… but BO doesn’t want the Corporation to have the RIGHT be able to respond is HIS political rhetoric…. what a hypocrite

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 23, 2010, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

Every Tea Partier who fears that President Obama is stealing your individual liberties should now realize that their liberties have already been stolen by the conservative justices on the Supreme Court. There was once a conversation about weighing the interests of Wall Street vs. those of Main Street, well guess what? Main Street no longer exists.

Posted by: junglej24 | January 23, 2010, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

The american people have awoken!! But it’s not the tea partiers. We now know who the Republican parties stands up for.

Posted by: DemandSide | January 23, 2010, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

Foreign entities should not be involved in our campaigns…nosing into our democracy

Posted by: phantomniter | January 23, 2010, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Although conservatives have influenced the media not to mention it and they have their scripted responces readily available, the ONLY undisputable evidence of raw bigotry is the use of double standards. The postings today don’t mention “legislating from the bench”. We all know that had this been a decision that the right didn’t like, that term would be today’s main conservative talking point. There’s your lastest double standard.There are too many to mention but the clues are throughout many of your postings today.

Posted by: Mike from Carolina | January 23, 2010, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

We as a people have the right to assemble but phony grass roots organizations funded not by individuals but rather by non-democratically organized corporations are corroding our democratic republic.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

When he was running for president he was the first one to refuse the govt contributions, because he ALREADY HAD TAKEN THE MONEY FROM PRIVATE CORPORATIONS AND DIDN’T NEED IT.

Posted by: carol in Alabama | January 23, 2010, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

President Obama and his fellow lefties would prefer that the influencing of elections be left to his “stimulus” funding,grants to ACORN etc. They thought they had the election rigging thing figured out, and this SCOTUS decision threw a wrench in the gears. The only thing transparent anymore is Obama’s motivation. When he or the left leaning Senators “protest too much” we now know for the good of the country we are moving in the right direction.

Posted by: ralph | January 23, 2010, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

“phantomniter “ You hit the nail on the head. The primary problem with having too many capitalist interests impacting democracy is that the beast of capitalism doesn’t care about people. It doesn’t care about the poor, since it’s more profitable to simply strip their labor rights and enslave them. It doesn’t care about taking care of the elderly, since the bottom line is enhanced by simply allowing them to die. It doesn’t care about predatory lending, the environment, protecting the Constitution or anything else that might get in the way of making another dollar.

Posted by: junglej24 | January 23, 2010, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

This coming fro mthe man that broke his fist promise DURING the eelection and financed his campaign through private donations. Even the idiot trolls know Obama raked in all his money through unlimited ( and illegal) donations from big corporation.
Barry doesn’t have an ounce of credibility. It’s rather pathetic. Saul Alinsky is spinning in his grave as his # fan flails horribly

Posted by: Dem no more | January 23, 2010, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

tHOMAS JEFFERSON the link that you mention states:
If the First Amendment has any force, it prohibits jailing citizens for engaging in political speech.” The Supreme Court has decided the First Amendment does have force. Now the American people have the right to decide how much to spend on their own political speech. We all will benefit from this affirmation of our Constitution.
There is a difference in a non-profit group giving money to a campaign for the good of it’s people than a PROFIT group giving for the good of their business.
The courts was paid off for the good of the BIG BUSINESSES.
Don’t you get it. The court got it, payoff, not freedom of speech.
Laws decided by Corp.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 23, 2010, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

Here he is, the man who knew it was coming before anyone and he is blathering away because he was too busy running this country further into the ground and now, again after the fact he is mad…the guy is a complete phony, wish the US could hold snap elections like the rest of the world and get rid of this jerk!

Posted by: CC | January 23, 2010, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

To allow corporations to enter into an already out of control election process is just adding gasoline to the fire. How does this help us, the individual? I’ve worked for big business. They are out for one thing: to make money. That’s what they do. The only control of how that money is made is by laws and regulations. That’s the brutal facts, my friends. To allow this group to influence (and let’s all be honest, that’s what money allows you) and manipulate people’s perspectives, we’ve just allotted them a huge chuck of our freedom.
This is so much bigger than blue versus red, so much more important than conservative versus liberal! Please move beyond the Obama/Bush bashing. We’ve just sold our American soul…

Posted by: Mark | January 23, 2010, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

In fact, the majority of people in the US are fools – poorly educated, immoral, stupid fools. It was in 2000, when the republican hacks and traitors on the supreme court decided to appoint bush, and conceal the election outcome, that true patriots should have taken to the streets and demanded that their democratic institutions be respected and preserved. But for all the “conservative” talk about the constitution and rights – the American people complacently, stupidly, and immorally submitted to a judicial coup. Our nation has been bankrupted by insane foreign wars. Our nation’s so-called supreme court has just equated political corruption with free speech. Our nation is a ship of fools – the traitors on the “right” who strive to destroy it, and the fools in the middle and on the left who complacently have allowed our democracy to be squandered. Americans are now too stupid to, big black 1st-grade pencils in hand, to connect the dots from insane military expenditures and unnecessary foreign military adventures to a failed economy.

Posted by: Bob | January 23, 2010, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

HEY WJKSEA, ease up on hugo chavez ,he is bamas favorite leader,except for jeremiah…

Posted by: rking | January 23, 2010, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

PLease all of you are complaining about Obama once again. Obviously the Supreme court is in the pockets of some big corporations. Our government is so messed up. I personally feel these guys shouldn’t be the ones making decisions we should. The senators shouldn’t be able to vote for a law we should. They do abide by any of them anyways. They are all crooks. Think of only themselves and there friends. Sorry that Obama knew how to campaign a lot better than Mccain did and blew him out the water with money raising. How anyone is complaining about Obama after what he has done in a year is beyond me. Obviously the majority of you ABC fans just want him to fail. Even if the republicans mess things up for next three years Bush will STILL be the worst president in the short history of our country.

Posted by: Matt Varela | January 23, 2010, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

This ruling should mean that Bill Gates should pay off as many congressmen as he can, go back to court (pay them off too) and state that he has the right to overpower any and all competition. Then raise the cost of his software 100%, because he has cornered the market.
That way the fools who wants to speak will be so broke, they will be in a project and can’t afford a information source like the internet.
A FOOL MAKES THE SAME MISTAKE OVER, AND OVER AND OVER.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 23, 2010, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

Meant to say they dont abide by the laws anyways

Posted by: Matt Varela | January 23, 2010, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

UNDERDOG (12:06 PM); What!!! For profit or not really has nothing to do with it. Nice try though. Very imaginative.

Posted by: LongT | January 23, 2010, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

Carol from Alabama: Don’t your right wingers ever get tired of making up your own distortions such as your last post. Have enough integrity and honesty to say you hate the guy because he’s black. The bulk of the campaign money came from small individual donars. I’d bet that you can somehow justify making up lies and spreading them, can’t you?

Posted by: Mike from Carolina | January 23, 2010, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

Mike all these republicans do is complain if you haven’t caught that in last year. They complain about everything but givve no ways to fix it just complain about who is in office. They dont admit how the stock market and housing market have done a 360 since Obama took office. They dont admit these banks paying back loans in less than a year. And they still dont want those banks to be taxed. They think Palin is the best candidate for 2012 even though it took her 7 years to get a bachelors and flunked out of business school at Hawaii. Maybe they are upset b/c Obama is doing a better job than the last 3 republican presidents for sure. Possibly all of them. Haven’t looked that far back though.

Posted by: Matt Varela | January 23, 2010, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

Stop invoking Teddy Roosevelt. You’re no Teddy Roosevelt and you’re no Abraham Lincoln.

Posted by: Enough! | January 23, 2010, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

LongT, you must not live in the United States of Capitalism. MONEY FOR PROFIT HAS ALL TO DO WITH IT.
Nonprofit means no one person gains.
Profit means big stockholders and CEO HAVE EVERYTHING TO GAIN.
A ROCK CAN’T BE HEARD OR REASON.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 23, 2010, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

FINALLY SOMETHING TO NUTRALISE THE UNIONS. Congress will now respond to small business owners and not just to the UAW.

Posted by: cobalt | January 23, 2010, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

I guess Obama wants to fight this so that no other candidate can manage to put as much money into their war chest as the labor unions heaped into his. The unions bought Obama the presidency and in the process, purchased them a president. Lock, stock and crooked barrel.
Steps need to be taken to limit the spending by a candidate. Spending $730 million to get a job that can potentially pay about $2 million AT MOST? C’mon.
Our electoral process is no longer about electing the best candidate. It’s about electing the guy who wastes the most money. Is it any wonder he’s handing out our tax dollars to anyone who asks for them?

Posted by: Hosfac | January 23, 2010, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

WHat happened to the healthcare debate and the unemployment mess?

Posted by: LongT | January 23, 2010, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

While I disagree with the court’s decision, I think it’s doubtful they passed this so “evil” corporations can rule the world through American politics (which is of course the way to do it). In fact, I believe this has become grossly exaggerated, and that Obama is merely playing the political game he claims to be above.

Posted by: Jack | January 23, 2010, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Telling a group to shut up is promoting free speach? And so much for “upholding the laws of the United States”…

Posted by: Jim | January 23, 2010, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

The whole issue is this:
Whether you water your plant on the leaves at the top. (Big Business)
or
Whether you water your plant at the root. (The working people)
Build your house from the Roof (Big Business)
or
Build your house from the floor up (working people)
Profit or Nonprofit matters.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 23, 2010, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

Posted by: UNDERDOG |This isn’t about paying anyone off, this is about Bill Gates being able to say what he wants as long as it isn’t libelous, hateful, incites violence or any of the other multitude of restrictions on so called free speech. A collective group of people can say whatever they want as they have the right to assemble and speak with one voice if they so desire, profit or not for profit has nothing to do with it. You would be the first to be screaming if McCain Feingold was later interpreted to extend to any collective voice whether it be for profit or not.

Posted by: Ferrari5858 | January 23, 2010, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

So we should fight to overturn:
Roe v. Wade if we dont like abortion
Miranda v Arizona- why should a cop have to read us our rights. If you cant speak english learn it.
Gruttner v Bollinger-race for admission to college law.
New York Times v sullivan-cant sue if paper writes inaccuracies
Plessy v ferguson-Seperate but equal. Made it ok to segregate.
Texas v Johnson- Its ok to burn the FLAG!
Just a few cases that were controversial. This is the way we founded our system. Thought it may not be the best we have 3 branches of government and none are more powerful than the other. We just have to live with it. Just think people will always not like a ruling they make. Just like a law congress makes, or a bill the president signs into law.

Posted by: ted | January 23, 2010, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

To allow foreign countries the ability to influence future leaders is disastrous.I consider this to be an attempt to overthrow our government. The constitution says such acts are punishable up to the death sentence. Wake up America can you picture Pharmaceutical, Wall Street, Insurance PETA, Oil companies and China special interest group running the country. THINK ABOUT IT; THIS IS DANGEROUS, shame on the supreme court.

Posted by: Hello | January 23, 2010, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

Something no one has mentioned or thought about in this landmark decision. Companies will now be able to reduce their TAX LIABILTY futher, by spending this money in the media to advance their own interest. What cost will the American Citizen now have to pay, to make up this difference, even as the business increases the cost of the product?

Posted by: David Workman | January 23, 2010, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

Freedom doesn’t appear to fit well into the president’s agenda.

Posted by: Jeff | January 23, 2010, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

The lefties sure do hate free speech…… guess they all should move to Valenzuela… they would love living under Hugo Chivas….

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 23, 2010, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

Amazing that BO thinks that the Supreme Court was wrong in telling Congress that they cannot create laws “prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech”………….. Hey BO if you’re going to restrict these boogiemen Corporations…. lets restrict what the lefty Press can do during elections….. no MORE endorsing candidates… no more “exclusive interviews with softball questions that the Networks play over and over and over in support of their chosen one……..

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 23, 2010, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

Our Constitution does not say “Freedom of Speech” “except” for the people who work for unions and corporations…. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.” Guess the left needs more money for education so they know what this means…..

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 23, 2010, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

HHAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHA…….”public servant who has the courage to stand up to the “Special interests” This is a VERY funny statement from our Liar-In-Chief BO.. When HE just PAID off his “Special Interests”, the Unions, in order to get their support for his Socialist Healthfare Plan…..

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 23, 2010, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

Finally America will follow it’s very own Golden Rule….Them that has the gold makes the rules !

Posted by: jackie | January 23, 2010, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

Corporations are NOT democratic republics. They are non-democratic plutocracies. Corporations are not humans. They are organizations driven by profit and at best responsible to the individuals who hold the greatest number of shares in them. Corporate participation in our political debate is corroding our sovereignty as a collective people. Churches were recognized as non-democratic entities and granted soveigny and separation from the political debate. The same should apply to organized capital in the form of corporations. Otherwise Siemens, Toyota and Exxon will have more ability than the people of the United States to affect the political debate of this nation.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

Oh, let the good times roll again: the best government money can buy. As it is, it is government of the corporations, by the corporations, and for the corporations.
To hell with the American people. Democracy is now at a dead end

Posted by: what667 | January 23, 2010, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

This was a stupid law that could have been interpreted to silence any collective voice just due to being collective.

Posted by: Ferrari5858 | January 23, 2010, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

The Obama/Pelosi/Reid train has wrecked!
Twelve months of Obama seems longer than eight years of President Bush.
Obama said what we wanted to hear and, SINCE the election, he has done as he pleased.
Obama is clueless as to what is happening around him and all he can do is look for a fall guy to blame it on. He is the man — the buck stops at his desk. He should man up and take responsibility for all of the foul ups in the last year.
He should have been working for Americans — not romancing foreigners and ignoring what “we the people” wanted.
NOW that his corrupt administration is in trouble, he is back-peddling and flip-flopping. He has betrayed the American people and simply cannot be trusted.
THEY CRAMMED IT DOWN OUR THROATS IN 2009 — WE’LL CRAM IT UP THEIR AR$E$ IN 2010!

Posted by: TOO LITTLE --- TOO LATE! | January 23, 2010, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

The ability of the american people in mass to protect their sovereignty is being attacked by a small arrogant self-righteous minority corrupted by money. It’s difficult to stand up for a democratic republic when your wealth is leveraged by a monopolistic corporate plutocratic organization. Money corrupts. There goes the republic. What a joke to criticize the elected politicians who are faced with a system of funding endorsed by a supreme court that doesn’t take a constitutional stand against this corruption. The supreme court we currently have is the core of our collapse. This supreme court favors plutocracy and religious rule over our democractic republic.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

If this decision is freedom of speech then Chinese corporations should have as many rights as global Exxon.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

He sure looks a lot older compared with one year ago.

Posted by: Dan | January 23, 2010, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

The amount of money that unions can bring to bear will be a drop in the bucket compared to oil companies, insurance companies, big banking systems and the like. Union members have been systematically forced out for years, and their numbers are ever dwindling.
The only hope for the american people is to start a backlash against political ads from either side. Tune them out, tune them off ; and listen to more reliable sources or read enough about the candidates to make up your own mind. We alre all spoon fed a lot of pap by both far Right haters and far left manipulaters. If we do not stop it, the decline of our our nation is our own fault.

Posted by: Phoenix Lady | January 23, 2010, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Ctually, corporations are indeed democracies under the laws of all fifty states, with shareholders as voters. For those who disagree with the Court’s wise decision, allow me to be the first to say, “tough luck.”
Wonderful news from Rasmussen today: 24% Strongly Approve; 43% Strongly Disapprove. That Strong Disapproval number is identical to that of George W. Bush in his final month in office.
Heckuva job, Barry.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | January 23, 2010, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

It amazes me those who refer to this as “free speech” by corporations. There is nothing free about a billion dollar campaign paid by large corporations (which we will see in three years) This was a huge loss for democracy.

Posted by: momusicman | January 23, 2010, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Would someone please give Obama a lesson in the US Constitution an the responsibilities of the THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT? This guy is losing what little credibility he has left!!
THANK GOD FOR THE COURT!
If this guy keeps it up, he will be the second democrat impeached in 20 years!

Posted by: PappyHappy | January 23, 2010, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

Republican’s biggest talking points to whip up hysteria with the tee bag crowd have been: “activist judges”, “state’s rights” and “will of the people”. In Colorado, we voted to limit corporate campaign contributions. Now, the Republican activist judges are trying to trample our state’s will of the people.
Republican hypocrites and liars, as always.

Posted by: butforgraceofgod | January 23, 2010, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

A few posts are so incredibly distorted here. This is not about free speech for the people of this country. This is about allowing global capital leveraged by non-democratic corporations to use this capital to push propaganda on steroids in the interest of the corporate bottom line which is to reduce the competition, cut overhead and maximize profits.
One person wrote, if you don’t like free speech move to Venezuela. We are becoming Venezuela with these kinds of decisions.
Frankly, this supreme court has committed an act of treason against our democratic republic and should be placed on trial.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

The constitution determined there be a separation of church and state. What are some who post here not getting?

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

The SCOTUS ruling it not what’s devastating to democracy. It’s BO and his socialist liberals who are destroying democracy. BO doesn’t know the meaning of the word or the concept!

Posted by: JustMe | January 23, 2010, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Obama does not think twice about having one way communication in beating up on US businesses — but will blame them in a heart beat for not hiring! Remember, he has an ‘enemy a month’. Remember when he went after Big Pharma (until they sided with him); insurance companies (except for AARP who sided with him); even doctors (remember during the Professor Gates fiasco brief when he indicated doctors would perform the procedure producing the most money for their pockets — that changed once the AMA sided with him); and of course Wall Street and the banks (HOW DID GEITHNER EVER GET HIS JOB????)
Rather than pounding American business and banks, why does he not pay more attention to THE SECURITY OF THIS COUNTRY, and have a COME TO JESUS MEETING WITH ERIC HOLDER??
When will Holder be called to testify before the US Senate??
* Did he talk to anyone in the White House before he made this decision, and if so, WHO?
* Why did he elect NOT TO NOTIFY the Director of National Security, or the Director of Home Land Security? (What good are these agencies if there is ZERO COMMUNICATIONS WITHIN TEAM OBAMA?)
*Are we not back to the same pre 9-11 policies that led up to the bombing of the USS Cole and 9-11? If the answer is NO, then explain in DETAIL WHY NOT!
*Does Holder not feel that he personally usurped the power and responsibility from the Dir of National Security and Homeland Defense?
WHAT ACTION HAS THE WHITE HOUSE TAKEN TO PRECLUDE THIS NEAR DISASTER IN THE FUTURE?
BIGGER QUESTION: Why should we trust Team Obama with our National Security??
Just get the impression that Obama takes the population as a bunch of idiots, and he can scoot from one subject to another — play dictator one day, and a populist the next –without the stupid citizens knowing what he is up to!!
Well, his track record the past year was totally abysmal!!
*American automotive companies (now bankrupt!);
*Cash for Clunkers (look what that little jewel cost the tax payers!);
*Cabinet appointees who cannot even pay their taxes, and we are supposed to trust them??
*Eric Holder calling citizens ‘COWARDS’ for not addressing race in America;
*TARP (look at the number of bank failures and the limited loans they are making today!)..now up to 134 closed!!
*H1N1 vaccine shortage, (and short supplies going to special interest groups!), and now recalling 800,000 doses for little kids;
*Three dozen czars who create layering, and little else – the USA is not a dictatorship!
* The Professor Gates ‘teachable moment’ when the President jumped to a guilty conclusion before he even knew the facts – and should have kept his mouth shut!!!!
*consistent indecision on Afghanistan, and ultimately had to use West Point as a prop to announce a ‘muttled’ message
*the Olympic bid disaster;
*the Copenhagen junket that ended as a bust (thank God) – but was a nice vacation for ‘the ruling class and their family members at taxpayer’s expense!
*10% unemployment when the government plan was supposed to keep it below 8%;
*the GITMO goat ropin’ – know that the folks in Thomson, IL are real proud now;
*a government health care bill that appears to be making sausage with spoiled meat, but mandating – by law – that all citizens buy it at premium prices, but with reduced services;
*Special interests making public policies in the back rooms of the White House with ZERO transparency (i.e., unions)
*a standstill on international relations (Iran and north Korea as examples);
*.. and who can ever forget the underserved Nobel Peace Prize for NOTHING???
*Daily doses of arrogance from Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer, et al, and the White House – especially Geithner, Orszag, Gibbs, Emanuel and Napolitono;
*Losses in New Jersey, Virginia, and even Ted Kennedy’s FORMER senate seat (bet few will be asking him for support in the future)!
*Serious concerns over the professionalism to secure the USA (to wit, the near airline bombing on Christmas Day) Testimony on Jan 20 was stunning! The DIRECTOR OF INTELLIGENCE DID NOT KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON!! WHO WAS IN CHARGE THAT DAY? ERIC HOLDER??? He did not even advise the Intelligence community!! DO YOU FEEL SAFE??
* … and their ineptness in even conducting a secure State Dinner!!
THE REAL QUESTION IS TEAM OBAMA CAPABLE OF GOVERNING???????

Posted by: PappyHappy | January 23, 2010, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

WHat happened to the healthcare debate and the unemployment mess?
Posted by: LongT | Jan 23, 2010 12:38:11 PM
BACK STROKE, PASS THE BUCK, BACK STROKE
THEY LOST THE 60 VOTE, They have to PASS THE BUCK. Get it

Posted by: Thomas Schuette | January 23, 2010, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Texas State Council Convention of 1995/ April 19,.

Posted by: gai65 | January 23, 2010, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

Remember Obama’s “devastating” remarks in 2012! He thinks the old adage that people have short memories will play to his favor.

Posted by: LongT | January 23, 2010, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Obama denounced the supreme court’s decision on campaign finances;but refused to accept public finances during his presidental campaign.He speaks from both sides of his mouth depending on venue or subject matter.He is a man of many words but no action.(Health Reform C-Span, Veto Bills with Pork barrel Spending etc. )

Posted by: richard potter | January 23, 2010, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

STOP DOING BUSINESS WITH THESE COMPANIES.

Posted by: BW | January 23, 2010, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Obama took $750 million in donations from corporations and Unions during the campaign. Now he is complaining? LOL

Posted by: Cw | January 23, 2010, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Texas Abestos Claims/ and effects on society/ American workers death toll related issues/ long term effects crisis

Posted by: gai65 | January 23, 2010, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

How hypocritical is this Administration? They criticize the Chinese for “information imperialism” (censoring the internet) and yet turnaround to criticize the US Supreme Court for allowing corporations to voice their opinions. McCain-Feingold campaign finance “reform” made it illegal for Citizens United, a nonprofit political advocacy group, to release a film called “Hillary: The Movie” in 2008. The Democrats were of course threatened by the film; but of course, no complaints from them when Michael Moore produced films about the Bush years. I’m not taking sides with either party (I’m disgusted with both of them), the point is this is an issue with freedom of speech – pure and simple. I would have to support the right for Michael Moore, Citizens United, or any other group to express their political views – even if I personally might disagree with them. I depend on the People to make up their own minds.

Posted by: WeThePeople | January 23, 2010, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Corporations are not people. They are organized capital. The goal of the corporation is to eliminate the competition, reduce the cost of doing business and maximize profits. An example of how abusive it will become to society if corporate influence isn’t stopped is the recent discussion of requiring by law that we the people do business with private for profit healthcare corporations. The healthcare insurance corporations were in favor of this because their ability to profit would be subsidized by taxpayers. For those who criticize any politician for taking money from corporations…the alternative is to not participate. Without government we have anarchy which will most likely dissolve into a dictatorial regime.
This rests on the supreme court to stop corporate plutocracies from interfering with our democratic republic. Our surpreme court apparently despises the United States as it is constitutionally written.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

I smell 5 rats. The Republican appointed justices are attempting to make sure that the presidency of the U.S. will be held by a Republican thereby assuring that the Supreme Court will stay conservative. The richest industries..energy, finance, health, insurance..benefit from keeping Republicans in office. The Repubs are getting ready for 2012..God Help Us All.

Posted by: getitgd | January 23, 2010, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

Democracy means government by the people. The Supreme Court decision upheld the constitution (freedom of speech) of the people’s democracy. There is nothing devastating in their decision to democracy. Egos and socialism may be devastated but democracy is most certainly not.

Posted by: Daniel James | January 23, 2010, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

what about yourself Mr. President? During your own campaign? Didn’t you refuse to join Mccain’s call to limit campaign fund raising? I had enough of your elegant words, you have no clue.

Posted by: nancyobama | January 23, 2010, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mr. Onderful. Pretty words trashing your main contributors. Show us some action.

Posted by: creeper | January 23, 2010, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Obama is right. This is dangerous. Also, this couldn’t come at a worse time. Too much power has already been concentrated in the hands of a short number of wealthy interests in the US. Over-centralization of power has historically failed in all countries in which it occurred. Our capitalist democracy is not immune from this problem.

Posted by: Dugese | January 23, 2010, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

What a HYPOCRITE!! No one took more special interest money than Obama in an election. His administration sells out to special interest all the time.

Posted by: Kathy in Pa. | January 23, 2010, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

Posted by: wjksea | Actually McCain Feingold set out to reign in any collective voice be it profit or non profit from speaking out on political issues, it set out to limit issue oriented groups just as much as it did corporations.The US Supreme court ruled that Companies and Unions are no longer barred from the First Amendment right of free speech, with regards to promoting the election of a candidate instead of another candidate. This ruling wasn’t just about protecting corporations as you are claiming.

Posted by: Ferrari5858 | January 23, 2010, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

ncpilot10: My hearts out to you dude. You don’t mind Bank of America, Chase, Verizon, or Comcast ruling your life, then fine… you’ve grown a set. But I DO mind… and I won’t give into it. I should have a choice too.

Posted by: Troy Street | January 23, 2010, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

There is definitely two sides to this issue, but the hypocritical rhetoric coming from Obama is getting nauseous. We are all not stupid sir!

Posted by: LongT | January 23, 2010, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

wjksea: Your postings are spot-on and most likely going right over the heads of the majority of posters here who seem more interested in finding an excuse to bash the President than to understand how this Supreme Court decision effectively diminishes the voice of the average American citizen.
Sure, it’s still the individual casting the vote–unfortunately, the majority of American’s are so brain-dead that they have no discriminating awareness and will easily get swayed by the corporate propaganda during campaign season (most likely spoonfed to them by FOX news).

Posted by: butforgraceofgod | January 23, 2010, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

These comments are kinda funny. This ruling should be against everything Republicans and Conservatives stand for, but Obama doesn’t like it either, so it’s better to be against Obama. Now companies can drown out the piddling donations of the people durring elections…I wouldn’t be surprised to see Nascar-esque jackets covered in corporate logos on candidates. But Obama doesn’t like it, so it must be good, right?

Posted by: AnimusVir | January 23, 2010, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

This is TREASON committed by the Supreme Court. No more, no less.

Posted by: NewYorkMilitia | January 23, 2010, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

When an anti-social individual or borderline personality type walks in the midst of a group, the tendancy is to split and divide the group. Corporations have no social conscience by design. They are non-human human created organized capital with limited objectives which are primarily kill or be killed, cut overhead and maximize profits. In this country corporations benefit from the bickering of left vs. right. Our resolve as a sovereign people organized under a democratic republic is being corroded by the corporate social pathology allowed to affect our political debate.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

If our freedom of speech can be stifled in any big or small way by legislation it’s only a matter of time before even these comments on this site will be controlled by government. It has already happened in other countries. Our founding fathers looked ahead and tried to keep it from happening to America. Freedom beats bondage.

Posted by: Daniel James | January 23, 2010, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

One person on here says those “on the left” should move to Venezuela to be with Chavez. Under this ruling none of should have to since global capital rightly should now be equally allowed to participate in the political debate of this nation. It would be hypocrisy to ban Chavez, Toyota or Siemens over Exxon. They are all global capital.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

Protect us BO, for we are not smart enough to make decisions for ourselves!

Posted by: stevemb12 | January 23, 2010, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

I hate Corporations. Sadly, they OWN all of us. We work for them, we buy our goods from them, and now they are allowed to give any amount of millions of dollars to BUY candidates. In return, they will expect the obedience of those they financed and helped get elected.
Ill say this, it doesn’t feel like America here anymore.

Posted by: NewYorkMilitia | January 23, 2010, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

Democrats are in trouble…traitors within the party have pretty much made it impossible for the dems to accomplish much….and now that we have all realized that bernankes policies will do nothing for the economy and now that it has become clear that there is likely no chance for the economy to recover..BECAUSE OF THE DAMAGE DONE BY BUSH FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, the conservatives are simply going to wait like buzzards to devour the carcass of the dems….but the truth is only one IT IS THE REPUBLICANS WHO DESTROYED THIS NATION AND IF YOU LET THEM THROUGH THE DOOR AGAIN THEY WILL SEAL YOUR FATE, ONCE AND FOR ALL…WE MAY EVEN GET ARMAGEDDON…SO FOUL ARE THESE PEOPLE.

Posted by: Howdy | January 23, 2010, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Someone said corporations are democracies because their shareholders vote. As one who holds stock, this is a false statement. Democracies allow one vote for all participating. Corporate plutocracies are one vote for every share held, guess whose votes count. An intellectually honest person can do the math. Those who support this decision should have had the opportunity to live in the old European World and live under the auspice of the Holy Roman Empire.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Posted by: butforgraceofgod
He’s not spot on. He is distorting the ruling. The US Supreme court ruled that Companies and Unions are no longer barred from the First Amendment right of free speech…It is not just about corporate interests. McCain Feingold set to limit the speech of any group, Right To Life, NRA, Chamber of Commerce, Environmental Defense Fund etc. from engaging in political discourse. This act was a stupid law as it tried to reign in electioneering by restricting free speech, it should have been struck down.

Posted by: Ferrari5858 | January 23, 2010, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm

AnimusVir said: This ruling should be against everything Republicans and Conservatives stand for, but Obama doesn’t like it either, so it’s better to be against Obama.
Republicans will always be “party before people”. Corporations and big-money interests LOVE Republicans and tee baggers because they know how gullible they are. Yes, this Supreme Court ruling is bad for the average Joe American, but all you have to do is turn it into an anti-Obama rant, and the tee baggers are all on board. Like lemmimgs off the cliff.

Posted by: butforgraceofgod | January 23, 2010, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

“The last thing we need to do is hand more influence to the lobbyists in Washington, or more power to the special interests to tip the outcome of elections.”
If I was 7 years old again I might believe it when a politician makes a statement like that. Does he think there is an audience for that kind of talk?
Does anybody really believe that we see anything but the most token of efforts to mitigate the dangers of influence peddling in Washington?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | January 23, 2010, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

THE TRUTH IS BOTH THE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS ARE DESTROYING THIS NATION.

Posted by: WeThePeople | January 23, 2010, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

Does anybody really believe that we see anything but the most token of efforts to mitigate the dangers of influence peddling in Washington?
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Rome wasn’t built in a day.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

Democracy DOES NOT equal one vote for every share held. This ruling is an internal hit against a collapsing democratic republic.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Rome wasn’t built in a day.
Posted by: tierra |
Washington has never seen influence peddling before W.
3 years of swamp draining in the house and not one member has been found in violation of house ethics.
Maybe instead of building Rome in a day, Washington could lay a few bricks.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | January 23, 2010, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Posted by: WeThePeople | I agree. While McCain Feingold may have had noble intentions the unintended consequences hurt individual non profit groups and therefore individuals more than it did what it intended to do. It was a bad law.

Posted by: Ferrari5858 | January 23, 2010, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Democracy DOES NOT equal one vote for every share held. This ruling is an internal hit against a collapsing democratic republic.
Posted by: wjksea |
I don’t get that. Ask GE or the New York Times what they think about corporate free speech. Corporations have money which provides easy access to all kinds of “speech” that few have even without this ruling.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | January 23, 2010, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

Ferrari5858: Thank you – the general principle is that rules or laws which are made to go after a minority wind up hurting the majority. McCain-Feingold was a rash generalization. So between censorship and freedom, I say 99.9% to lean on the side of freedom – and let the people make up their own minds.

Posted by: WeThePeople | January 23, 2010, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

This is TREASON committed by the Supreme Court. No more, no less.
Posted by: NewYorkMilitia
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Run up there and arrest them then …LMAO

Posted by: another crisis, another photo-op | January 23, 2010, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

I don’t know if this is treason by the Supreme Court – but it is close to a coup. While the Republican’ts may be celebrating now – when the third party, the Corporatocrats is established, we’ll all be left out in the cold. This is the end of the democracy as we knew it. What is fascinating is the repeated use of the word “chilling” by Roberts in the decision – to describe the effect on the First Ammendment of not letting corporations have free speech. That seems so ironic – because the chilling effect of this decision is to undermine the free speech of all other breathing persons in our country.

Posted by: Mom | January 23, 2010, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

Too much influence money in control of a few. This decision was based on a narrow ideology. It was a mistake. I believe eventually it will be overturned with a constitutional amendment. And I’m a right leaning moderate conservative! Imagine that!

Posted by: LongT | January 23, 2010, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

Ferrari said:…This act was a stupid law as it tried to reign in electioneering by restricting free speech, it should have been struck down.
I thought Republicans were all about “honoring the will of the people” and “supporting state’s rights”. Similar corporate campaign limits have been imposed by 24 states. In Colorado, it was voter approved. Now, thanks to the SC decision, there will be a lawsuit (at tax payer expense) to overturn the will of the people.
You might think this was a stupid law, but the will of the people should be honored–not the will of the increasingly powerful corporations.

Posted by: butforgraceofgod | January 23, 2010, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

This ruling says when you have large amounts of money you should then have more rights than the sovereignty of a people. This belief is not representative of a democratic republic.
Corporations on NOT DEMOCRATIC. They are one vote for every share held. In a democratic republic we as citizens each get a vote. The system of a democratic republic is bothersome to billionaires who wish to rule over a people and seek to win title to the Kingdom. Our constitution and our rights as a sovereign people are being trampled by the supreme court.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

“This is TREASON committed by the Supreme Court. No more, no less.”
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Since when is the support of free speech treason? Maybe under this administration it is.

Posted by: Jack Spratt | January 23, 2010, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

This time ABC and the President are very honest. Indeed, they characterize the Supreme Court ruling as ““devastating” and “powerful blow” striking at democracy…” because “…the ruling will make it more difficult to pass his (i.e., B.O.) key agenda items – like health care and energy legislation.” But the majority of the U.S. voters are AGAINST the ObamaCare and the “Cap&Trade”. What is democratic about pushing the B.O. agenda against the majority of the voters?

Posted by: H1N1Hysteria | January 23, 2010, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

The biggest Supreme Court ruling in my life time I believe was made yesterday. When the Supreme Court Ok Corporate Campaign Contributions. I wonder If the PRoC Corporation wants to spend money on campaign if the American public will know who they are. We are a country that tell the world about freedom of speech what would happen if the PRoC Corporation gives us an education on our own words . Then do you think we as Americans would care if Googols got censured in China. There are many corporations owned by the PRoC and you think this can’t happen someone need to get a life. If you don’t know who the PRoC corporation is I know you seen the name in WalMart it the People’ Republic of China. Maybe if you want to throw a election the way you want you support the one you hate. I think we got highly educated idiots running are country starting at the top at the Supreme Court. I am told all the time we are living in a global economy so guess it open to any corporation.

Posted by: kevin | January 23, 2010, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

It’s a relief to see some response from enlightened conservatives who see the flaw in this decision. This ruling is a dangerous threat to our democratic republic. Big money leveraged by non-democratic plutocracies should not have more affect on the political debate than the people.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

Since when is the support of free speech treason? Maybe under this administration it is.
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You get as much free speech as you can buy?

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

and the roman empire didn’t collapse in one day

Posted by: e3 brando | January 23, 2010, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

Our Founding Fathers warned about the ability of corporations to threaten our democracy. I hope Congress passes legislation to overrule this decision before the corporations totally take over.

Posted by: Bubbles | January 23, 2010, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

The decades long growing influence of corporate plutocracy on our democratic republic is a serious threat. McCain, Obama which ever politician is appearing shockingly impotent upside the special non-democratic corporate plutocratic interests in Washington D.C. The supreme court has failed tremendously by not setting severe limits on this growing threat by instead extending this influence.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

The decades long growing influence of corporate plutocracy on our democratic republic is a serious threat. McCain, Obama which ever politician is appearing shockingly impotent upside the special non-democratic corporate plutocratic interests in Washington D.C. The supreme court has failed tremendously by not setting severe limits on this growing threat by instead extending this influence.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

Since when is the support of free speech treason? Maybe under this administration it is.
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You get as much free speech as you can buy?
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And your alternative is to have the government tell you how much free speech you can have…No Thanks!

Posted by: Jack Spratt | January 23, 2010, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

When free speech depends on how much money you have – it is no longer free speech – it is BOUGHT power.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

see above we the people

Posted by: mad61 | January 23, 2010, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

The argument that corporations have the same right to free speech as individuals is foolish – corporations don’t have a body to be kicked, nor a soul to be damned.
To argue corporations also have the right to BUY more free speech than individuals could ever afford is simply wrong. With every additional dollar you have, you are able to DOMINATE free speech.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

Stroke of the pen; law of the land.
We all have free speech, and we all are able to reach a wider audience by spending more money. That’s always been true. Sorry if it makes some people unhappy, maybe you can get George Soros to help you out.
“Congress shall make no law…”

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | January 23, 2010, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

This decision isn’t about free speech. its about money. Corporations are now allowed to spend unlimited amounts of money on any campaign.
Let’s say they want to open a toxic dump in a small, rural town. All they have to do is spend 100 million to unseat the mayor and the whole city council. Then they will have puppets in office who will what whatever they tell them.

Posted by: Bubbles | January 23, 2010, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

Obviously this President didn’t mind that one Union (SEIU) contributed 30 MILLION dollars to his presidential campaign. If there were a way to prevent both the unions and corporations from spending unlimited amounts of money, then I think most Americans would be for it.

Posted by: Karl | January 23, 2010, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

With the “record” contributions Obama took from unions (and corporations) in 2008 his rhetoric rings hollow with me.

Posted by: LongT | January 23, 2010, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

We all have free speech, and we all are able to reach a wider audience by spending more money.
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Corporations are not individuals.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

I note with gloating joy that no less than Barney Frank has now been afflicted with what Bubbles calls the right-wing obsession with Fannie and Freddie. I also note that together they hold or guarantee 31 million mortgages, many of them bad, totalling $5.5 Trillion, so it’s nice to see Barney getting obsessed.
As to Bubbles’s contention that banks aren’t lnding, I just closed a $1.1 million loan from Union Bank on Dcember 23. But the bank knows that I can and will pay it back.
They’re lending; they’re just being more careful. And Obama will cause them to lend less, keepng the unemployment numbers high.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | January 23, 2010, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

LongT or Short of Thought, Obama got large contributions of small amounts from good hearted American Citizens who saw the direction that this Supreme Court is taking.
It is all about the MONEY, dam the people let them eat CAKE, (made of Mud that will be all they can afford).
The sheep (dumb Americans) will be put on the chopping block.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 23, 2010, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Remember how, a few short months ago, the serfs were eagerly awaiting the “public option?”

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | January 23, 2010, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

Remember how, a few short months ago, the serfs were eagerly awaiting the “public option?”
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The Blue Dog Democrats seem to have played a large role in destroying this. My perception is the Blue Dog Democrats are Republican moles – out with them!

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

Are wwe as a people so weak minded we can not discern between commercials fact and fiction? Are we devoid of the ability to find information out for ourselves. Companies being able to by air time does not garuntee that someone else wont be heard does it? Unions can buy air time. So can Acorn. What Obama is saying is YOU ARE ALL TO STUPID to know who is lying to you and I want to be the only one in control of the LIES.
ROFL what a clown Obama is.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | January 23, 2010, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

Dominating the air waves because you have the most money is not free speech. It is free speech for the rich.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

“Anybody can buy a truck,” says our elite populist president.
Today’s Rasmussen numbers are a thing of beauty. And as Democrat pollsters Caddell and Schoen say, he has an “unchallenged reputation for integrity and accuracy.”
Heckuva job, Barry.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | January 23, 2010, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

Using government to control speech and thought is unlawful, no matter how much money is behind the ability to speak. ABC has more buying power than most tv stations. Should we make it illegal for ABC to have the advantage over them as well? Everyone knows there is political bias in media. Just look at the differences between ABC and FOX. Once government gets their hands on free speech it affects everyone.

Posted by: Daniel James | January 23, 2010, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

I can just see it now, corporations getting a flunkie to run for office, spending tons of dollars bankrolling his election with new and clever ways of promoting their candidate. Then you’ll see legislation enacted for all corporations relieving them of paying taxes, not being held liable or responsible for anything, including false and misleading ads, faulty and defective products, food, devices, and anything consumers would use. Yes, death trap cars, tainted food, dangerous drugs, the list goes on an on. The flunkies they put in office will be beholden to them, not to voters. Congress will be made of our representative of corporations, doing their bidding. Might as well do away with consumer protection laws, safety laws, OSHA, the FDA, the USDA, and any other agency with oversigt and regulatory powers since they will get laws passed that will abolish them anyway. You think special interest run this country now, wait till they go to work now, you ain’t seen anything yet.

Posted by: jake | January 23, 2010, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Jan 23, 2010 3:20:19 PM
Anybody can buy a truck if they’re a well-off Massachusetts lawyer.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

He is devasting to the economy. He has ruined this country quicker than anyone could have ever imagined. Nov 4th 2012 can not come fast enough.

Posted by: wayne | January 23, 2010, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

The candidate with the most money doesn’t necessarily win. Witness the recent contest in New Jersey’s gubernatorial race. Making it easier to donate to a particular campaign, instead of requiring everbody to jump through hoops, will INCREASE the number of candidates that can run, and thereby INCREASE the number of choices people have, and also energize political participation.
Unions will be free to give, without limits, to candidates of their choosing, as well. McCain Feingold enjoyed bipartisan support because it protected encumbents of both parties by making it difficult for a relatively unknown candidate to mount a serious challenge. Office holders wishing to run for reelection enjoy not only free mailing privileges, but have established channels for generating campaign revenue that challengers lack. Encumbents who choose to run for reelection enjoy a 95% success rate. Given Congress’ low approval rating (23% according to a recent CBS poll), a 95% reelection rate for incumbents seems strange. It is only through the mindlessly complex and idiotic labyrinth of McCain Feingold regulations that they enjoy such protection.
If we cannot have term limits for members of Congress (and to get that, they, themselves, would have to agree to amend the Constitution accordingly–so what are the odds?) then surely we can at least hold them accountable by making them actually RUN for reelection. We should make it as easy as possible for somebody to raise money for an upstart political campaign. Silencing a candidate by squeezing money out of his campaign is no different that political censorship. McCain Feingold is unfair and un-American. Three cheers for the U.S. Supreme Court!

Posted by: Greg Maragos | January 23, 2010, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Someday when 99.9% of the several hundred million people begin tiring of eating the cake of this un-american, non-democratic decision there will be 99.9% of an outraged disenfranchised populous gasping for freedom under the oppression. The French revolution could be rewritten on american soil.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

tierra:”Dominating the air waves because you have the most money is not free speech. It is free speech for the rich.”
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Whoever dominates the airwaves does so because they produce content that gets ratings. It’s called capitalism. If the content doesn’t float your boat you can choose to ignore it. This ruling was a clear victory for the First Amendment, liberty and freedom. The supression of political thought is the first step to facism.

Posted by: Woody | January 23, 2010, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

He is devasting to the economy. He has ruined this country quicker than anyone could have ever imagined.
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Yes, thank God he and his party were voted out of office in November 2008.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

O-bla-bla should be that last person to open his mouth on anything. He has betrayed our country with false promises (not one has he kept).
O-bla-bla is terrific at quarter backing anyone that does anything, leaving himself safe for he never does anything to get quarter backed.
He has to be the worst person ever elected president from the jump. Can you imagine what he is going to do to our country the next 3 years?
Old Bla Bla sails on with his ship of fools, giving terrorist lawyers, placing our country in peril, keeping the flake of flakes Holder who had the nerve to call country a bunch of cowards. Pelosi and Reid have assumed the duties of president, old Bla Bla lives in the White House and talks and talks. Boy did we get gypped with this guy

Posted by: a citizen | January 23, 2010, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Someone attempted to trivalize this situation. The statement was made that Obama is telling people their too stupid and can be influenced.
To that intellectually dishonest person I say. Since it shouldn’t have much effect on an intelligent populous then what are the corporations saying when they spend hundreds of millions of dollars buying politicians and propagandizing the media.
There has to be justice lined up for commentary of this level of ethical depravity.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

Whoever dominates the airwaves does so because they produce content that gets ratings.
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Nonsense. When a corporation is allowed to dominate the air waves politically because they have the most money to purchase air time, it is not free speech. It is free speech for the rich.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

the”O” don’t want to stop spending he wants to keep the private sector from donating big to his rivals , that way he can out spend them and maybe get reelected

Posted by: John | January 23, 2010, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

So let me make sure I fully understand the liberal argument. It is okay for a union, which is comprised of hundreds of thousands of individuals, to spend as much money as they want on a political canidate. But it is NOT okay for a corporation, comprised of hundreds of thousands of employees, to spend as much money as they choose.
What about those corporations who own our news companies that have had no spending restrictions in the past; there was no problem before was there? Considering Fox is the only non-liberal piece of media, I say that was a pretty big benefit to that small amount of people in the country (21% to be exact.)

Posted by: Karl | January 23, 2010, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

So let me make sure I fully understand the liberal argument. It is okay for a union, which is comprised of hundreds of thousands of individuals, to spend as much money as they want on a political canidate. But it is NOT okay for a corporation, comprised of hundreds of thousands of employees, to spend as much money as they choose.
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Please, do some research.
For the right wingers who don’t bother to read or research, this ruling applies to unions as much as corporations.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

It all smells very much like napalm in the morning.
Stroke of the pen, law of the land.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | January 23, 2010, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

To the comment which was Posted by: Greg Maragos | Jan 23, 2010 3:24:56 PM
Time will tell how this will play out but I don’t see how allowing big money controlled by a few to have most of the influence over the political debate is going to provide a sense of being represented on the part of the people. The system has turned deaf on the majority. There is a strong sense of disenfranchisement when hearing anecdotals like the following:
A 63 year old retired woman’s bank goes under and the CD is transferred to another institution. In this process her locked rate, a contract, was broken and she then immediately received a dropped percentage rate on her investment. Meanwhile Goldman Sachs is saved from bankruptcy, gets bigger and makes record profits. Who in their right mind can believe in this system?

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | Jan 23, 2010 3:44:32 PM
Anybody can buy a truck if they’re a well-off Massachusetts lawyer.
Reagan’s approval ratings fell to 35% during his first term. Try to get some perspective on your ghoulish drooling.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Another example of how the President is out of touch with the people. The majority support free speach for Unions, Corporations and everyone else when it’s political speech.
Mr. President, you admitted to George Stehpanopolous that you lost touch with the people. Now, please, (respectfully sir) shut up for a minute and listen to us!

Posted by: Voter2Be | January 23, 2010, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Please, do some research.
For the right wingers who don’t bother to read or research, this ruling applies to unions as much as corporations.
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Maybe I missed the memo on the spending restrictions that SEIU had during Obama’s election, roughly 30 million. So if that is what they were ‘limited’ too before, then let them spend all they want. The Americans won’t be fooled again.

Posted by: Karl | January 23, 2010, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

“Whoever dominates the airwaves does so because they produce content that gets ratings”
Since when has advertising been subject to ratings?

Posted by: Skip | January 23, 2010, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

Maybe I missed the memo on the spending restrictions that SEIU had during Obama’s election, roughly 30 million.
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The Supreme Court just said they have every right to do this. So do you support the Supreme Court ruling or not? Obama does not.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

We can all breathe a sigh of relief now… I was worried that the Exxons of world were not getting their fair shake with the Obama Administration.
Now corporations of the world have even and level playing field to buy the United States House of Representative along with us regular Joe Pickups. Grand Old Party back!

Posted by: threeriverscrossing | January 23, 2010, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

The problem with the right wing Republican campaign to demean the President is that by attacking EVERYTHING the President does you end up looking like completely biased partisan fools – which is what you actually seem to be.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

The liberal and corporate MSM have been free to “shape public opinion” for DECADES, being in COMPLETE CONTROL of the airwaves
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You’ve already been duped!
The main stream media is owned and operated by BIG CORPORATIONS! Corporate entities control what goes on the air waves. Your ‘liberals’ control the air waves is a joke – a joke on you.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

you right-wing bigots really love the fact that ‘obama’ is failing. it’s not obama who is hurting this country.. it’s YOU. Nothing is getting done because republicans don’t want to help this country.. they just want to leave everything as it is on ‘hope and pray’ that it fixes it self.
wake up hypocrites.. this country is going no where fast and by the time Obama is out of the office and any republican gets elected it will be a hell of a lot worse!

Posted by: pathetic | January 23, 2010, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

“The supression of political thought is the first step to facism.”
It’s not about thought of course, it’s about selling the media to the highest bidder. Controlling the media is something fascists love.

Posted by: Skip | January 23, 2010, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

tierra:”Nonsense. When a corporation is allowed to dominate the air waves politically because they have the most money to purchase air time, it is not free speech. It is free speech for the rich.”
How would a corporation “dominate the airwaves” by purchasing advertising time? Any entity can purchase air time. What’s the problem as long as they disclose who they are? And what do you mean by “free speach for the rich”? Is your right to free speach limited by any entity that advertises on the radio or television? Of course not.

Posted by: Woody | January 23, 2010, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

To answer the question raised by one who might not care about the answer here goes.
Corporations are non-democratic. Corporations are plutocracies who are answerable to those who hold the greatest number of shares in them. The role is not to represent employees. Employee talent is used in order to do the following: Eliminate the competition, reduce overhead and maximize profits. They do this in part by cutting healthcare, retirement plans and wages for their employees.
While labor unions might need more guidlines to paricpate in political debates, the function of them is to advocate for fair representation on behalf of labor both white collar and blue collar when working for corporations. Basically they are non-profit and have democratically elected representatives. Labor Unions are not owned by an individual nor are they represented on wall street.
Those who hold the most shares in corporations don’t like labor unions because quite to the point, they’d be happy running cotton plantations and having slave labor make them incredibly rich and powerful. This descripton is not the hallmark of a moral and just society nor a democratic republic.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

Tierra,
You asked “So do you support the Supreme Court ruling or not? Obama does not.”
Good thing our Constitution wasn’t written in a manner that ASKS the President whether he supports it or not. He is REQUIRED to uphold the decisions of the Judicial Branch – THEY DON’T WORK FOR HIM!!

Posted by: Laughing_All_the____Way | January 23, 2010, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

wake up hypocrites.. this country is going no where fast and by the time Obama is out of the office and any republican gets elected it will be a hell of a lot worse!
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The payback will be if Republicans and the right wing succeed in bullying the Democrats out of office, they’ll have to take over fixing the mess they played a huge role in creating – and have been pretending they can fix. Payback.
The sad part would be – once again the Republicans in control of the country. We saw that already.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Special interest groups have been running this country for so long that it no longer seems like a democracy

Posted by: ody | January 23, 2010, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

And what do you mean by “free speach for the rich”? Is your right to free speach limited by any entity that advertises on the radio or television? Of course not.
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Okay, I’m glad you support unions being able to ‘buy an election’.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

pathetic,
You said “…by the time Obama is out of the office and any republican gets elected it will be a hell of a lot worse!”
Only 283 more days, and the MORON will be wearing a “LAME DUCK” sign around the West Wing, still wondering what happened.
Maybe a little experience would have been nice after all, huh? Instead of “hoping” the color of skin and his slick talk would carry him through a 4-year Presidency without anyone knowing he really IS a MORON!

Posted by: Laughing_All_the____Way | January 23, 2010, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

Maybe I missed the memo on the spending restrictions that SEIU had during Obama’s election, roughly 30 million.
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The Supreme Court just said they have every right to do this. So do you support the Supreme Court ruling or not? Obama does not.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

The Dems are quickly changing their sound bites from one based on “hope” to ones that are now “hoping for miracles.” Like Obama suddenly possessing a brain, or a spine.

Posted by: Laughing_All_the____Way | January 23, 2010, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

The real question here is do you belive that Corporations should be treated, by law and the constitution, like individuals? If the justice had ruled that corporation had a right to reasonable speech that would be one thing. It is this perversion of 200 years of leagal doctrine that is the most disturbing. This is an assult on the constitution no doubt about it. It sounds like our former VP who belives in unitary gov’t (Executive branch trumps Legis. and Judicial branch). This justice is unfit to serve on the bench and should be removed by impeachment.

Posted by: DemandSide | January 23, 2010, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

And what do you mean by “free speach for the rich”? Is your right to free speach limited by any entity that advertises on the radio or television? Of course not.
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How effective is the right to free speech, if nobody can hear you?
How does free speech compare if one person is allowed only their voice and the other a huge megaphone and a public address system?
When the rich are able to purchase unlimited space of the air waves to push their agenda what happens to the balance of free speech?

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

The real question here is do you belive that Corporations should be treated, by law and the constitution, like individuals?
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I believe you are correct. That is the issue.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

The republicans have been stripped of their clothes for the average american to see who they really serve and at what lengths (Destruction of our democracy) they would go to serve these special interests (Corporations). Say what you want about health care reform but it is obvious who is dead set against it (Insurance CORPORATIONS). It is now obvious why the repubs in congress did everything in their power to kill and not fix it and work with the Dems. This ruling will make this obvious influence (Insurance CORPORATIONS) seem like childplay in a few years from now.

Posted by: DemandSide | January 23, 2010, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

The Supreme Court just said they have every right to do this. So do you support the Supreme Court ruling or not? Obama does not.
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I am in favor of corporations and unions having to abide by the same laws when it comes to spending money on political campaigns. I would be just fine if both had a dollar amount limit on what they can spend on ads, but the supreme court has just ruled that groups of individuals have the same protection under the 1st ammendment as an every day person.
Tierra, at least you were not wise enough to blame all of the economic situation on GOP. It was the Democrats who pushed to force banks to lend subprime mortgages to those who wouldn’t be able to buy homes normally. AND in 2005 the Democrats in the senate stopped an attempt by the GOP to pass an oversight bill that would have most likely detected the potential disaster ahead. Both parties are to blame, unforunately thats not what our fearless leader has been spouting.

Posted by: Karl | January 23, 2010, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

Corporations are leveraged global capital that are answerable to those who hold the most shares though recent examples have shown that due to the complexities and impersonal approach of such organization, often share holders are shafted hence shareholder lawsuits in the midst of CEO and CFO abuses.
The goal of a corporation is to eliminate competition, reduce overhead, and raise capital. When small and more competitive, services rendered to society can be noted but in the case of monopolies such as insurance corporations and the financials, abuse and disservice to society becomes the trajectory.
By allowing these plutocracies to affect our democratiic republic we as a sovereign people are handing over our posterity to a fewer and fewer who become the beneficiaries of this ponzi scheme. That’s how old world Europe developed which was comprised of an elite ruling class.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

*Edit* Were wise enough not to blame

Posted by: Karl | January 23, 2010, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Are we not a nation of laws? The President seems to only accept laws favorable to his agenda.

Posted by: tillyerkt | January 23, 2010, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

left wing vs right wing, conservative vs. liberal, Carter vs. Reagan. Fine divisive bickering well suited for the little people in order to distract them from the true game. Our democratic republic has been in the process of being eliminated by plutocratic special interests that have been buying elected politicians for years and propagandizing the media.
Can it get worse? Go to a third world country and a first hand view can be had. Such countries are characterized by a few extremely wealthy people and masses of poverty. There is no equal justice under the law in such places and frankly, inequality in our justice exists between extreme wealth and poverty. The U.S. in some respects has already collapsed.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Devastating to liberal socialists. That’s why there’s a Constitution. We’ll pray that the socialist liberal politicians find work in ’10 within the economy they’ve help devastate.

Posted by: WhatChange? | January 23, 2010, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

There is no real functioning constitution. This nation is controlled by corporate leveraged capital. The people of this nation live in the midst of a lie. Corporations are non-democratic plutocracies at best answerable to the few who hold the most shares in them. Our elected politicians are impotent on both sides. Those who appear strong and in power are those who are answerable to the plutocracy.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

teirra:”When the rich are able to purchase unlimited space of the air waves to push their agenda what happens to the balance of free speech?”
Are you against advertising? I can’t afford to buy air time on the radio or TV but I’m not too concerned about it. My local sub shop can’t afford to advertise on TV. Does that mean that Subway shouldn’t be allowed to advertise in our area? BTW I’m pretty certain he’s doing just as well or better than the new Subway that opened up a few months ago.
The Framers make no mention of your contrived term: the “balance” of free speech. That would imply some sort of arbiter to decide what the definition of “balance” is and in turn, limiting someone’s ability to speak freely in order to maintain some sort of “balance”.

Posted by: Woody | January 23, 2010, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

While I am not pleased with the Ruling, it is hardly the crisis that Mr. Obama is pretending. I suspect his outrage has much more to do with the fact that he is no longer free to Bully Businesses or use them as scapegoats to hide his failures, without them being able to striking back by airing their side of what ever charge he makes.
It is sad that this man who had the Appearance of integrity has proven to be little more than than an empty suite that couldn’t find Integrity in a room full of dictionaries with a dozen graduate students helping him.

Posted by: Rick | January 23, 2010, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

Why don’t you idiots quite blubbering about how the Republicans or Democrats are the beneficuaries of the Supreme Court ruling that allows companies unlimited spending on Political advertising. Companies don’t care which party their money is spent on as long as it helps put in office politicians who are going to better their financial interest. If you thought big business and special interest groups were in control of Washington before, then just wait and see how little influence you will have now.

Posted by: JohnO | January 23, 2010, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Are we not a nation of laws? The President seems to only accept laws favorable to his agenda.
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Hogwash. This Supreme Court ruling would allow unions to buy as much advertising as they want. Unions SUPPORTED Obama last time.
Obama does not think freedom of speech for individuals allows corporations or unions to dominate the air waves with political propaganda with no limits.

Posted by: tierra | January 23, 2010, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Right wing vs. left wing, liberal vs. conservative, democratic vs. republican. Something for the little people to bicker over. When the dust settles it is a few with lots of money vs. the masses. Private global capital has even more rights than it already has enjoyed in influencing elections after this. I guess this means Saudi corporations as well as Chinese ones can buy our government and elections through propaganda on steroids. There goes the republic. Taxation without representation unless you are a global capitalist with your wealth leveraged through international corporate charters then you can skip paying taxes and have all the represenation. The cost of doing business is to bribe the politicians and mislead the masses. The health insurance corporations have proven it can be well worth spending millions of insurance subscriber premiums on this process.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Write a new law which doesn’t deny someone else their Constitutional rights or change the Constitution. Don’t blame the Supreme Court for declaring the law Unconstitutional when it is!

Posted by: tillyerkt | January 23, 2010, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

All of the events of the past week, can be summed up as “REJECTION OF A SOCIALIST AGENDA”

Posted by: JAZ | January 23, 2010, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

It’s because of the women judges. Last thing we need is women sittin in a court

Posted by: stan | January 23, 2010, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Corporations are leveraged capital. The objective of the corporation is to eliminate competition, cut overhead and raise capital. Employees of corporations are only necessary in meeting this end which is for the sole benefit of those who own the most shares. As monopolies form the efficiency of raising capital out weighs the need to provide service allowing a reduction in overhead. One way to reduce overhead is to cut corporate employee wages, healthcare and retirement plans. Corporations are basically non-human anti-social entities.
Labor Unions are reprsentative of both white collar and blue collar labor. The largest corporate share holders despise labor unions for the same reason cotton plantation owners would despise any requirements that their slaves be treated with basic human rights. Such advocacy of fairness decreases the greatest corporate share holders opportunity to gain title to the kingdom.
Corporations are non-democratic plutocracies. Those who believe this is a democratic republic have been steadily losing this to a growing myth.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

Most Americans are sick of political advertising and most, if not all, can see through the falsehoods the special political interest groups perpetrate during campaign season. For those who think Obama is going to be an one term President, do not count on it. Despite some of the negativism that is being perpetuated.
The Obama administration has worked wonders in turning the economy around, the equity markets are getting stronger by every quarter, which mean people retirement investment funds are recovering, public companies’s last quarter earnings that are now being reported, by far are on the positive side. All auto industry experts now say the Obama administration’s task force made all the correct decisions. The fear is over about the economy. Jobs are always the last to recovery during a depression but by 2012 the job market will be well on its way on recovering with new markets and technology.
A healthcare bill will be passed because we cannot continue to have the current healthcare cost eat way 16% of the U.S. GNP and both political parties understand this as fact. The two wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are managed much better under the Democrats. Obama so far has proven to be a far better executive than his predecessor.
We Americans will be far better off in 2012 than we were in 2008. No lie or advertising required.

Posted by: threeriverscrossing | January 23, 2010, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

This ruling will help de-fang George Soros and MoveOn. These 529′s had already made laws ineffective against “special interests”.

Posted by: tillyerkt | January 23, 2010, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

Socialism is a healthy moral component of a democratic republic. The opposite is anti-socialism which is like a large scale personality disorder.
A healthy functioning United States would have been one based on a wise mind effect. One in which both capitalism and socialism could co-exist for the benefit of all. Instead a harsh anti-social callous is leading to a collapse.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

Woody, to insult is ignorant to debate is wise.
Corporations are one vote for every share held. That fact does not exemplify a democratic republic.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

If only it could be one vote for every dollar held…that would be a right-wing dream come true.

Posted by: Skip | January 23, 2010, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

The greater amount the plutocracy has in the political debate the less is this nation’s claim to being a democratic republic.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

Most Americans are sick of negative political advertising, if not all, can see through the falsehoods the special political interest groups perpetrate during campaign season. For those who think Obama is going to be an one term President, do not count on it. Despite some of the negativism that is being perpetuated.
The Obama administration has worked wonders in turning the economy around, the equity markets are getting stronger by every quarter, which mean people’s retirement investment funds are recovering, public companies’s last quarter earnings that are now being reported, by far are on the positive side. All auto industry experts now say the Obama administration’s task force made all the correct decisions. The fear is over about the economy. Jobs are always the last to recovery during a depression but by 2012 the job market will be well on its way on recovering with new markets and technology.
A healthcare bill will be passed because we cannot continue to have the current healthcare cost eat way 16% of the U.S. GNP and both political parties understand this as fact. The two wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are managed much better under the Democrats. Obama so far has proven to be a far better executive than his predecessor.
We Americans will be far better off economically in 2012 than we were in 2008. No lies or advertising required.

Posted by: threeriverscrossing | January 23, 2010, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

If only it could be one vote for every dollar held…that would be a right-wing dream come true.
Posted by: Skip | Jan 23, 2010 5:07:17
If what you were say is true then right wingers would be unamerican as this nation was founded on the principles of a democratic republic. The founders resisted the tyranny of an elite ruling class that by the way leveraged their wealth through one of the first corporations. The Boston Tea party was a revolt against this corporation’s influence on the colonies who did not share the same access with this foreign corporation.

Posted by: wjksea | January 23, 2010, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

An ironic statement from SCROTUS “This ruling strikes at our democracy itself.” Considering his agenda has nothing to do with democracy. Now that the smoke has cleared and the mirrors are cracking he is being seen for what he is, or more like what he isn’t.

Posted by: formerdem | January 23, 2010, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

“If what you were say is true…”
If it weren’t right-wingers would be confident their ideas would stand on their merits and corporations wouldn’t need to flood the media with propagandized advertising.

Posted by: Skip | January 23, 2010, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

Democracy is gone. It doesn’t matter who gets elected, the greedy run the country. The middle class is being erased. The poor are growing in numbers, and more desperate, while the wealth continue to steal.

Posted by: Ken | January 23, 2010, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

tierra:”Obama does not think freedom of speech for individuals allows corporations or unions to dominate the air waves with political propaganda with no limits.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 23, 2010 4:40:05 PM”
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Exactly! And if you read Kennedy’s (hardly a right-wing wacko) majority opinion you will understand why Obama is dead wrong.

Posted by: Woody | January 23, 2010, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

Irony, upon irony, upon irony. John McCain sponsors the bill. Soros, Acorn and their ilk take advantage of the bill to defeat McCain and get Obama elected. The Supreme Court then rules the McCain bill unconstitutional, and Obama says the ruling is devastating to democracy.

Posted by: vancav | January 23, 2010, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

And I forgot, Obama citing Teddy Roosevelt, McCain’s personal hero.

Posted by: vancav | January 23, 2010, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

This is the most serious threat to American democracy in decades and decades. The CORRUPT high court is sicken ing. Now if a large oil company wants to spend $1 million defeating an environmentalist running for city council, it can now do so. SHAME ON OUR COURT. THEY DON’T REPRESENT AMERICAN PEOPLE ANYMORE…

Posted by: lifesajourney | January 23, 2010, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

Wow… it’s amazing how much disregard there is for the American public – if the advertise it – we will buy it – is that it?! So much for trusting in the “people”.
If we let’em sell their wares then let’s apply the “truth in advertising” laws… like shouldn’t we get our money back from the Obama campaign? Where’s the “Hope and Change”(TM) that the American people bought? I WANT A REFUND!!!!

Posted by: Diamond Lou | January 23, 2010, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

I can’t believe some of the posts here! Unless you’re one of the uber wealthy or a top executive in a major company or union, you now have no real (and meaningful) vote in this country. This ruling was unbelievably shameful. These five Supreme Court Members don’t deserve the title of Justice.

Posted by: hallihunt | January 23, 2010, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Although I’m sure we’ll hear it again, pay no attention if there is any more whining from right-wingers about activist judges.

Posted by: Skip | January 23, 2010, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

BO, who feels that we will vote for whoever spends the most money for advertisment. Thanks for thinking we are morons, BO! I am scared of your EGO!

Posted by: stevemb12 | January 23, 2010, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

Devastating . . . Devastating. without McCain/Feingold you’ll have Hollywood elites trying to influence elections with 100 Million blockbusters portraying the opposition as evil. Oh, wait, McCain/Feingold did not stop Michael Moore, Oliver Stone or the new Abramoff movie slated for release sometime prior to the mid-terms this year. And it did not stop GE from using MSNBC, or Murdoch from using Fox to further their own economic agendas. And Soros sure has been stopped in any significant way. Should we stop these as well? If not, you have a serious equal protection problem. If so, you are going to have to amend the 1st Amendment to make sure corporations, the rich and “artists” are not treated the same as individuals for purposes of political campaign financing.

Posted by: vancav | January 23, 2010, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

This ruling is absolutely insane. The five supreme court judges that voted to relax the campaign funding laws must’ve been smoking crack. What were they thinking of? I am still in complete shock by the implications of this ruling. Paradoxically, I actually feel that this ruling will benefit the Dems more than GOP. Reason being that any independent who values democracy and hates big business will rally around the party that sincerely fights this ruling the most. GOP have already come out to say that they are in support. Obama has seized the initiative by immediately countering this.

Posted by: waxonwaxoff | January 23, 2010, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

The whole basis of a democracy is that everyone is represented and equal in choosing elected officials. Owners of corporations have this right. Corporations, themselves, should be kept out of it – completely. This is government by the corporations, of the corporations, for the corporations – some of which are not even American-based. An insane ruling that will devastate our political system.

Posted by: Andrew | January 23, 2010, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

vancav | Jan 23, 2010 6:28:13 PM
Movies that have either a left or right discourse have nothing to do with corporations or unions or PACs buyin TV time to influence people during campaigns without any limit. What people take exception to is that part of any and all purchase they make can and will be used to promote a political agenda over which they have no control. And that, I believe, is an infringment on individual freedom of speech.

Posted by: treblig56 | January 23, 2010, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

OMG! I think I actually agree with Barry, who would have thunk it?

Posted by: Justme8811 | January 23, 2010, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

It would be nice if people — including our Harvard Law-educated President — would read the bloody decision before they stomp all over it. Stevens logic is impeccable, not the rantings of a right-wing ideologue (remember, he is the critical swing vote). Under US law , a corporation is a “person”; as such, a denial of basic rights to that person can lead to a denial of rights to any other person. In any event, it boils down to simple politics: Obama and the Dems are terrified that the spending balance might be rectified. Remember, they overwhelmingly outspent McCain. Where were the cries about all the money spent on elections then?

Posted by: curriek | January 23, 2010, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Doesn’t matter if you’re worried about WalMart buying seats or unions buying seats, this is NOT good news and needs to be fixed.

Posted by: jhw539 | January 23, 2010, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

What people take exception to is that part of any and all purchase they make can and will be used to promote a political agenda over which they have no control. And that, I believe, is an infringment on individual freedom of speech.
Posted by: treblig56 | Jan 23, 2010 6:50:29 PM
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Wow, what twisted logic. So what you’re saying is some organization’s right to free speech is infringing on another individual’s right to free speech? The Constitution protects all free speech but its very existence spawned from the need to protect POLITICAL free speech. Tell me, who should be the arbiter of which political opinions should be heard and which ones shouldn’t? And don’t forget, we’re all adults here. You’re free to ignore whatever speech you don’t care for. More speech, more discourse = good, censorship = bad. Got it?

Posted by: Woody | January 23, 2010, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

” The Boston Tea party was a revolt against this corporation’s influence on the colonies who did not share the same access with this foreign corporation.
Posted by: wjksea | Jan 23, 2010 5:12:19 PM”
Uh, not really. The Boston Tea Party was a protest against taxation without representation. It was a thumb in the eye King George III designed to provoke the English into battle. If you want to believe it was a battle against Big Tea, go right ahead.

Posted by: Woody | January 23, 2010, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

Doesn’t matter if you’re worried about WalMart buying seats or unions buying seats, this is NOT good news and needs to be fixed.
Posted by: jhw539 | Jan 23, 2010 7:04:42 PM
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Hey, we finally agree on something. It needs to be fixed. We need to get all this money out of the electoral process. All Congress needs to do is pass some legislation that doesn’t violate the First Amendment. When they get to that point I believe they could ask for an advisory opinion from SCOTUS before calling for a vote.

Posted by: Woody | January 23, 2010, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

You have to remember that an individual was and still is unlimited in the amount of money that could go towards ads. So a billionaire like George Soros could spend all the money he wanted on commercials for or against an individual. All that changed is that corporations and unions are now allowed the same right. Both are still restricted in the amount that they can give to a candidate.

Posted by: Bigshott | January 23, 2010, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

“I hope we shall… crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our government in a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
–Thomas Jefferson

Posted by: Flash Override | January 23, 2010, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Our country is changing and the rich want to get richer and they want to keep the poor poor! They want the middle calss to go away. Who is paying big money to the Judges to rule like this? Who is pain Rush Limbaugh to fuel the whinning Republicans? Money is being given to these people in high places. You can count on it! Our individual vote means nothing!!!!!
We need to get rid og Rep and Demo and all vote individually! Get rid of the electorial college, we don’t need it anymore. Let OBAMA do his job abd fix the mess he INHERITED!!!

Posted by: Ms. Noname | January 23, 2010, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

“Tell me, who should be the arbiter of which political opinions should be heard and which ones shouldn’t?”
I can tell you who shouldn’t be the arbiter: a cash register. If speech costs money only those with money will be heard.

Posted by: Skip | January 23, 2010, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

What about small corporations, unions, political opinion groups- this ruling didn’t just limit the speech to corporate speech. In fact it now allows the viewer to know the group rather than the PAC behind the ad. Which I think most americans will discern an ad by a pharmaceutical company for a healthcare plan probably says there’s something in the plan more for the company than the consumer. Right so who’s really protecting the little guy?

Posted by: GO | January 23, 2010, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Freedom!!!!

Posted by: Diomedez | January 23, 2010, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

Those who have the most money will always speak the loudest. So let me understand Judge Steven’s impeccable logic,(if there is such a thing), a corporation is a person, which makes it easy to understand that a dollar is their voice. So the more money they have, the louder they can speak. Falls right in place with everything that’s wrong with this country. Those that have can be and are heard. Those that don’t are just out of luck. Fortunately, there are more good, even great things about the USA than bad, but greed will eventually bring us down.

Posted by: james | January 23, 2010, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

All that changed is that corporations and unions are now allowed the same right.
Bigshott | Jan 23, 2010 7:20:06 PM
Corporations and unions are not breathing citizens and there is no reason they should have the same rights (they do not have the same responsibilities nor risks – a corporation does not fear imprisonment, nor does even it’s CEO in practice). And they already had pretty broad rights – its not like they were muzzled.

Posted by: jhw539 | January 23, 2010, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

All Congress needs to do is pass some legislation that doesn’t violate the First Amendment. When they get to that point I believe they could ask for an advisory opinion from SCOTUS before calling for a vote.
Woody | Jan 23, 2010 7:16:10 PM
The eaiest patch would probably be via corporate law, making the campaign spending limits be a contractual obligation of being awarded a corporate charter. Long term, this may actually be an appropriate subject for a constitutional amendment (just a sentence defining that Constitutional rights are granted to an individual human – if we can’t throw it in prison, it doesn’t deserve the same level of protection).

Posted by: jhw539 | January 23, 2010, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm

Thats all folks! This is the end of America once and forever. I am thankfull my life is close to ending, the ressesion will put me down in the next couple of months, I will miss when the citezens rise up and finish the course of things to come.

Posted by: tealtripod | January 23, 2010, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

And you like what we have seen in the twenty years since this law was enacted? The rise of ACORN, Move-On, Act Up, George Soros billions and Michael Moores biased movies? Maybe there will be more balance with this court decision than what we have seen lately.

Posted by: jim 234 | January 23, 2010, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm

jwh539:”Corporations and unions are not breathing citizens and there is no reason they should have the same rights”
According the Kennedy’s majority opinion any organization of citizens is afforded the same rights as the citizens themselves, which to me makes sense. Certainly a corporation or union has the right to assemble, to publish, etc. Government of course reserves the right to regulate their operations as they see fit without violating their rights. That’s all that needs to happen

Posted by: Woody | January 23, 2010, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

aybe there will be more balance with this court decision than what we have seen lately.
jim 234 | Jan 23, 2010 9:17:24 PM
Cute how the pivotal swift boat hit pieces and just about all of FoxNews are somehow missing from your unbalanced comment.

Posted by: jhw539 | January 23, 2010, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

ummm..barry… a majority of americans recently polled feel the supreme court decision was correct…careful taking on the electorate again (remember obamacare goin up in flames??). MAN, you got a big ego

Posted by: jlibertas | January 23, 2010, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

The backlash against a system that continues to legitimize its democracy by consolidating the hold lobbyists and influence peddlers have on the congress and now even the Supreme Court will grow. Reasonable expectations for a health care system that needs to catch up to all other Western countries can be thwarted by a massive campaign of disinformation and funding to key Congressmen re election coffers. Over $25 BILLION EACH MONTH goes to foreign oil producing countries but the oil lobby still controls the agenda of what fuels American transportation, limiting government funded research for alternatives and the necessary infrastructure. The campaign will be massive to stop legislation to force Wall Street to repay TARP even as they payout billions of bonuses made possible only by the American taxpayer bailout. Can the majority of Americans who continue to be disenfranchised be expected to accept this while the privileged class gains more influence through its growing coffers? History has shown repeatedly, no. I am a Capitalist but am ashamed by how power and greed drives these evil forces.

Posted by: stopoil | January 23, 2010, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm

When are the Stupid and Ignorant people of our country Stop being So Stupid! The Fact of the matter is that CORPORATIONS HAS BEEN A PART OF ONE PARTY FOR DECADES…AND THAT PARTY HAS CRIED ABOUT THE UNIONS, WHICH SOLE PURPOSE WAS TO REPRESENT THE WORKING, YES WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS NATION. Ok, then it’s going to be BLOODY each election, and the Non-Americans will have to say finally Who has bought them. It’s never been a secret that the Democratic Party has been on the side of the “people” of this nation, and “people” are the driving force in this nation…you can continue to be decieved , name call whoever you want, but the sad thing is You are in the same boat as EVERYONE and don’t EVEN know it!

Posted by: sara | January 23, 2010, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

ummm..barry… a majority of americans recently polled feel the supreme court decision was correct…careful taking on the electorate again (remember obamacare goin up in flames??). MAN, you got a big ego. Posted by: jlibertas*****************
I’d love to find out your sources and see what your
smoking, this particular decision is NOT in any
way supported by any REAL American. This is a
biased decision that measures up with Roe vs Wad.
People are not even looking at the picture of implications. First of all, this give the green light allowing newspapers and other media to be extremely biased, in that they could refuse to let the competitor place their adds with them because it does not share the companies views.
Freedom of speech? No, fascist at its best.
Rupert Murdock would love this one.

Posted by: spacerook1 | January 23, 2010, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

This and many other ruleings, noteably giving George W Busch his first election win, is why the american people should demand that supream court justices should be elected. They are totaly out of touch with the american people. Our constitution says WE THE PEOPLE, not we the money. Fellow Americans, it’s time to wake up and demand real democracy.

Posted by: tgs | January 23, 2010, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm

Under US law , a corporation is a “person”; as such, a denial of basic rights to that person can lead to a denial of rights to any other person. Posted by: curriek.*****************Sorry curriek, the Supreme
Court is twisting and turning definitions around to suit their agenda. In the business world a corporation is
a “person” that is made up of a group of people or company. This opens up a can of worms to say that
anyone who forms a business, lets say NAZI’s for
America could place adds for their new Hilter, and
it would be perfectly legal.

Posted by: spacerook1 | January 23, 2010, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

spacerook:”First of all, this give the green light allowing newspapers and other media to be extremely biased, in that they could refuse to let the competitor place their adds with them because it does not share the companies views.”
No kidding. What do you think has been happening for the past few decades?
BTW, when print was king almost every major and mid-major city had more than one newspaper, a liberal one and a conservative one. You still have it to some degree in Boston, D.C., NYC, Chicago. No one in their right mind would say the Washington Post or the Washington Times plays it straight down the middle. The Boston Globe is completely out the closet as the house organ for the state Democrat party. The Boston Herald is a conservative tabloid. The notion of the “unbiased” media has long been a myth.

Posted by: Woody | January 23, 2010, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm

JIM….George Soros, you forgot BILLIONAIRE ERIC PRINCE THAT WON NO-BID CONTRACTS IN IRAQ FROM THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND MURDERED 7 IRAQIS. AND DID YOU FORGET ALBERT STANLEY, THE BILLIONAIRE CEO OF HALLIBURTON, THE OIL COMPANY CHENEY IS PART OWNER….MATTER OF FACT HE’S SERVING TIME IN PRISON FOR A DEAL WITH THE NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT, OVERLAPING WHEN CHENEY WAS YOUR VICE-PRESIDENT.

Posted by: sara | January 23, 2010, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm

- if we can’t throw it in prison, it doesn’t deserve the same level of protection). Posted by: jhw539 ******
***************************************************
Good Point, and since the Corporation, or I should
say “person” is a tax abiding citizen then they cannot
hid their tax exemptions, in the “Corporation”!!!!

Posted by: spacerook1 | January 23, 2010, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm

The Supreme Court DID NOT rule that the candidate has to disclose who bought them, or any ad does not have to bear the bought one’s name….Congress will have to change that, and I guess the Republicans and their “fools” will say “NO” to that too. Of course!

Posted by: sara | January 23, 2010, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

In the business world a corporation is
a “person” that is made up of a group of people or company. This opens up a can of worms to say that
anyone who forms a business, lets say NAZI’s for
America could place adds for their new Hilter, and
it would be perfectly legal.
Posted by: spacerook1 | Jan 23, 2010 10:34:42 PM
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Yes, one of the wonderful things about our Constitution is you have the right to be an idiot. If you’re a National Socialist (your example) you are still afforded the same rights as every other citizen as long as you don’t infringe upon the rights of others. That’s the way it works. And if you wish to place an advertisement to proclaim your ignorance with a media company that will take your money, knock yourself out.

Posted by: Woody | January 23, 2010, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

And if you wish to place an advertisement to proclaim your ignorance with a media company that will take your money, knock yourself out. Posted by: Woody
******************************
Idiocy? Ha, A pot calls a kettle black, The main reason for the corporations is to protect the “person” owning the company from being personally sued.
It was not intended to be used for political advantage.

Posted by: spacerook1 | January 23, 2010, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

Mr President. Do you really believe that Chinese monks that had taken a vow of poverty gave their own money to Al Gore? Do you really believe you raised a billion dollars from ordinary citizens giving their own money for your campaign? Sir, you were funded by special interests. They find ways to skirt the campaign laws & they do it knowing there will never be prosecuted. Al Gore was correct when he said there was “no legal controlling authority”. This new ruling just makes the process more transparent (I hope) … there’s no need to launder the money anymore.

Posted by: Paul | January 23, 2010, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm

Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the opinion, “The government may regulate corporate political speech through disclaimer and disclosure requirements, but it may not suppress that speech altogether.” Score one for the First Amendment.
Here is why the Dems are upset:
Lawyers and Law Firms. 83% of their contributions to Democrats.
Health Professionals. 63% of their contributions to Democrats. (That’s right … even the top contributor to Republicans gives more to Democrats,)
Up until now they had the edge in campaign donations. Take a large corporation. The unionized employees of that corporation were free to donate to Democrats … just as their shop stewards and union leaders suggested they do. The company itself? Prohibited.
find the industries info at Center for Responsive Politics…look it up do the research, see who is back whom and always follow the money.
Freedom of Speech, yes!

Posted by: Margaret Va Beach | January 23, 2010, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

The Supreme Court made the right decision. For too many years, free speech has been unfairly biased toward liberal interests like unions and lawyers. In any case, more ads, books, and movies on political candidates is good for a free America. Limiting free speech and the flow of money into politics mostly benefited liberal Democrats.

Posted by: jhl1964 | January 24, 2010, 12:07 am 12:07 am

This new ruling just makes the process more transparent (I hope) … there’s no need to launder the money anymore.Posted by: Paul. **************
The corporations have been doing that for
years, now they can use this as another
excuse for a tax shelter.

Posted by: spacerook1 | January 24, 2010, 12:10 am 12:10 am

The Boston Herald is a conservative tabloid. The notion of the “unbiased” media has long been a myth.
Posted by: Woody******************************
Ha! Boston Herald, owned by Murdock himself,
has become a tabloid. The way it’s going I’m
surprised it didn’t run Senate elect Browns
COSMOS nude centerfold picture in it.

Posted by: spacerook1 | January 24, 2010, 12:18 am 12:18 am

Limiting free speech and the flow of money into politics mostly benefited liberal Democrats.
Posted by: jhl1964
proof of that is needed

Posted by: OOP's | January 24, 2010, 1:08 am 1:08 am

A SPACE ROCK IS VERY VALUABLE , SPACE ROCK1, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUY A JUDGE.
SO WHY ARE YOU WORRIED.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 24, 2010, 1:18 am 1:18 am

Oh I forgot dumb as a Rock

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 24, 2010, 1:19 am 1:19 am

Its funny that Obama is complaining about unfair campaign contributions.
Didn’t Obama bypass public funding off the elections so that he can raise 800 million from dubious sources.
Obama’s 2008 campaign fund raising has not been fully audited, he raised money from all kinds of dubious and shady influences and even with out the basic checks.
Yet Obama has the nerve to complain about campaign contributions.
This guy is a joke.

Posted by: Gregh | January 24, 2010, 4:48 am 4:48 am

We can have all the money and you cant tough luck Obama. How much did you spend and were did it come from. Oh I remember it was the little people my. I know you will not be re elected anyway. For the first time in my adult life I have something good to say about the supreme court.good luck on undermining the court ruling.

Posted by: Ron | January 24, 2010, 7:48 am 7:48 am

This is just terrible!
Now companies will be able to offset ACORN and the SEIU in influencing elections?
Oh the horror!

Posted by: drjohn | January 24, 2010, 8:16 am 8:16 am

“Fighting for the voice of the people”
What a ridiculous title. 61% want Obama to drop Obamacare.
Obama is fighting for his agenda and damn the people.
The end of “politics as usual”? It’s far worse now than before Obama. You have to be an idiot to believe anything Obama says.

Posted by: drjohn | January 24, 2010, 8:18 am 8:18 am

GOP wants big business to controll our government, and now they have it.
And all of you are so happy.
Business controlled governments are not By the people, for the people.
Business controlled governments are By the corporate, for the corporate.
Pat yourselves on the back. You, the GOP, just sold our rights to corporations.

Posted by: Angie | January 24, 2010, 8:28 am 8:28 am

“Now companies will be able to offset ACORN and the SEIU in influencing elections?”
Boy, the scale of right wing victimology is staggering!
The poor corporations, limited only to influencing elections through lobbying, advertising, spending any way they like except blatant bribery, and being able to go on strike without any constraint!
It is so terribly unfair!
I guess thats why corporations are so powerless in our system today.
The 30,000 to one ratio of corporate profits to Moveon contributions is barely enough to give corporations a level playing field.

Posted by: Flash Override | January 24, 2010, 8:36 am 8:36 am

By the way, the NY Times is a corporation.
So is ABC News.

Posted by: drjohn | January 24, 2010, 8:43 am 8:43 am

Didnt realize there were so many people in our country who hate “Free Speech”

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 24, 2010, 8:51 am 8:51 am

This is one of the “boogies man” scare tactics the left has been using for years to get votes….. Demonizing the people who own and work for corporations….

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 24, 2010, 8:57 am 8:57 am

Corporations make jobs.
Unions destroy corporations.

Posted by: drjohn | January 24, 2010, 9:12 am 9:12 am

“The 30,000 to one ratio of corporate profits to Moveon contributions is barely enough to give corporations a level playing field.”
SEIU and ACORN.
Not Moveon.org.

Posted by: drjohn | January 24, 2010, 9:14 am 9:14 am

So…the lefties don’t or cant understand a VERY SIMPLE concept.. hummmmmm
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 24, 2010, 9:15 am 9:15 am

Hey lefties what part of “SHALL NOT MAKE NO LAW” do you NOT understand…
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 24, 2010, 9:18 am 9:18 am

I don’t see any “corporate” exception in this right….
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 24, 2010, 9:19 am 9:19 am

Vet1973,
Just like Obama’s claim that he averted another “Great Depression,” or “saved” hundreds of thousands of jobs that would have been lost.
None of it can be proven, and none of it has been substantiated by ANYONE outside of HIS political influence.
I think Obama will go down in history as the “Chicken Little” President. All of his “accomplishments” will be unmeasurable, but he’ll claim them nonetheless, and the Demo_rats will believe him as a result of the Kool-aid they mindlessly consume from the MSM.

Posted by: Laughing_All_the____Way | January 24, 2010, 9:26 am 9:26 am

HERE IS THE “PERMANENT LOCK ON POWER” THE REPUBLICANS ALWAYS WANTED……

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 9:28 am 9:28 am

REPUBLICANS CAN’T WIN ANYTHING WITHOUT THE “SUPREME” COURT……

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 9:28 am 9:28 am

Corporations make jobs.
Unions destroy corporations.
—————
Corporations abuse and take advantage of their employees whenever and wherever they can.
Unions protect employees
If corporations didn’t abuse their employees there wouldn’t be unions.

Posted by: Skip | January 24, 2010, 9:29 am 9:29 am

Hey Vet1973, what part of “screw the people” don’t you understand??

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 9:30 am 9:30 am

“I think Obama will go down in history as the “Chicken Little” President.”
Speaking of Chicken Little do you remember Rumsfeld doing his superb impersonation? Nothing has inspired more confidence in the American people than having our Secretary of Defense imitate Chicken Little to such effect.

Posted by: Skip | January 24, 2010, 9:41 am 9:41 am

“Corporations make jobs.”
Yeah..in India and Brazil while keeping most of their earnings off-shore..I am not anti-business since I work for a very large and successful world-wide corporation…but be real…Corporations care about one thing: Profit, not keeping jobs in the U.S. or anything else..They will use whatever power they have politically to that end..
It is this sloganism and simplistic view of the world, usually from folks on the right, that I find most distasteful as an Independent voter…Think beyond the slogans will you?

Posted by: indy_voter | January 24, 2010, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Skip,
Goes to say that BOTH of our dominant and “illustrious” political parties today are not above the “Chicken Little” mentality.
Time (PAST time) to send them both to the history books, joining the Whigs and Federalists as “We the People” move on.

Posted by: Laughing_All_the____Way | January 24, 2010, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Obama:
a.) Was the first candidate to turn down public campaign financing (in doing so broke a promise to work with McCain on a mutually agreeable approach)
b.) Spent more on his campaign than Bush and Kerry spent COMBINED in 2008
More hypocrisy from, as Paul Krugman describes, “The One We Haven’t Been Waiting For”. He whines because this ruling does not necessarily favor him.
OT – While I get that The One is now “pivoting” towards populism, his stumping without a tie reminds me of Ahmedinejad – Is it just me?

Posted by: tjp612 | January 24, 2010, 9:59 am 9:59 am

It is very important that now more than ever President Obama come out and criticize the U.S Supreme Court in order to ratchet up the partisonship and animosity in this country. Keeping Americans divided is the best strategy for convincing people that we need a strong government which can cincumvent and “rise above” the chaos of democracy.

Posted by: glc | January 24, 2010, 10:05 am 10:05 am

I find it odd that Obama decries this ruling when he received more from Wall Street and big banks than did McCain.
Obama should be pleased with this ruling – Now his buddies on Wall Street and the Unions can provide unlimited support!
Perhaps Obama welcomes this ruling, but now that he has “pivoted” towards his role as a “populist” he has to publicly denounce this ruling. Makes sense.

Posted by: tjp612 | January 24, 2010, 10:06 am 10:06 am

“Corporations care about one thing: Profit, not keeping jobs in the U.S. or anything else”
Since when did corporations have a responsibility to provide jobs in the U.S.? Is this a law?
Corporations are by design organized to make profits and their actions are geared towards these ends. Is this so hard for liberals to understand? They are not adult day care centers.

Posted by: tjp612 | January 24, 2010, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Why aren’t all of the right wingers outraged about an “activist” Supreme Court decision? Where in the Constitution does it say that global corporations are entitled to all of the same rights as a person?

Posted by: Matt | January 24, 2010, 10:15 am 10:15 am

“Where in the Constitution does it say that global corporations are entitled to all of the same rights as a person?”
Where in the Constitution does it say that global (for-profit BTW) media corporations should be treated than other global corporations?

Posted by: tjp612 | January 24, 2010, 10:18 am 10:18 am

You’re right. Fox News is technically a global corporation, based in Australia. They can say whatever they want, no restrictions whatsoever. So, why shouldn’t Exxon, Bank of America, GE, etc.? Good point. I guess these corporations should have the right to promote their interests too.

Posted by: Matt | January 24, 2010, 10:27 am 10:27 am

It is very important that now more than ever President Obama come out and criticize the U.S Supreme Court in order to ratchet up the partisonship and animosity in this country. Keeping Americans divided is the best strategy for convincing people that we need a strong government which can cincumvent and “rise above” the chaos of democracy.
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Another naive statement….this country has been divided since Democracy was born….That is what it means to take a stand. That is why issues should be settled by elections…not by some stupid rule in the Senate that says you must have 60 votes to pacify minority opposition…Forget about bi-partisanship…It never really existed anyway..

Posted by: indy_voter | January 24, 2010, 10:29 am 10:29 am

Matt,
You mentioned Fox, but there’s also ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, and a slew of other wannabes.
ALL are multinational corporations, and ALL have been completely free to “shape public opinion” in the total absence of any corporations in any other media area, at least until the Supreme Court’s ruling. Now THEY have a little competition, during the short commercial breaks.

Posted by: Laughing_All_the____Way | January 24, 2010, 10:32 am 10:32 am

As usual, Obama reveals his bias against our Constitutional Republic form of government in favor of mob rule democracy. The Supreme Court’s job isn’t to protect “democracy”, but to uphold the Constitution. He throws the term “democracy” around as if it were some concept providing the greater good for society in fact quite the opposite could be true and often is when a democracy rules. Has he read de Tocqueville? Does he know about the danger that lies in the tyranny of the majority?? This ruling protects free speech for all. Corporations have stockholders and they have a right to protect those interests by creating political ads pro or con. That’s the way it works in a free society. Those with more money have more clout. Too bad.

Posted by: linda | January 24, 2010, 10:33 am 10:33 am

I love the comment posted earlier that the Republicans “can’t win anything without the Supreme Court”. An astute observer would see that our (yours and mine, not just “republicans”)Constitutional rights and freedoms are being challenged at every turn in the modern day, and to be fair it certainly didn’t start with Obama. That’s why we have a Supreme Court. As my dad used to say, you should put your brain in gear before running your mouth.

Posted by: linda | January 24, 2010, 10:38 am 10:38 am

“I guess these corporations should have the right to promote their interests too.”
Yes – And the “chosen” ones (e.g., GE, Goldman Sachs, Google, etc.) get special access to Obama in the WH while their competitors are left in the cold.
Common perception is that Republicans are the party of “big business”. Obama (with his buddies on Wall Street, GE, etc.) has turned this assertion upside-down.

Posted by: tjp612 | January 24, 2010, 10:49 am 10:49 am

Financial bubbles are similar to Ponzi schemes as they finance long-term debt with short-term deposits. I think it was the infamous Greenspan who said “the human race has never found a way to confront bubbles.” The government, especially the Fed, should warn against financial bubbles such as stock, housing and other markets as they arise. Hedge fund managers might then fear personal liability for mismanagement of funds if the public was more aware.
Instead we have a grossly incompetent government and a Fed that is kowtowing to government spending. The current bubble is the government which now borrows 40 cents of every dollar spent. Obama and his congress spend with impunity TARP, stimulus and cash for clunkers are all losers and add to long term debt. Democrats resist using TARP repayment to pay down the deficit, they see it as off budget funds like the social security trust fund.
In the midst of such governmental fiscal responsibility Obama is doing what? He is glibly campaigning for healthcare even suggesting that it will somehow control long-term debt. But is there any truth to this suggestion? Senator Harkin has openly admitted that the bill is but a foundation to build on and we well know how politicians can build public debt.
There are others that say pass any kind of healthcare reform that anything is better than nothing, but is that true? To pass any healthcare bill at all is but to invite an incompetent congress to spend and spend in attempt to fix or add pork to a limited bill. The only reasonable solution would be to pass no healthcare bill at all and address the real problem the government spending bubble.
Current attempts are in progress to raise the debt ceiling another two trillion dollars. It was just raised to $12.4 trillion so this would mean a new ceiling of $14.4 trillion. The CBO warned the $12 trillion level to be unsustainable so what would Obama and his congress do, raise it even more. Such action is incomprehensible but what should we expect from officials that choose to ignore their constituency. Ignore it even after the rebellion in Massachusetts!
When the government bubble bursts the dollar will be trashed and retirement and savings accounts worthless. There will be unrest in the streets. In a Newsmax column that has since been pulled John L. Perry suggests, “ There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America’s military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the ‘Obama problem.’ Don’t dismiss it as unrealistic.” Perry also wrote, ‘Military intervention is what Obama’s exponentially accelerating agenda for “fundamental change” toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama’s radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible.’
This is serious talk but how much longer can the government continue to spend, even going beyond borrowing 40 cents of every dollar spent? What happens when we cross borrowing 50% of every dollar spent, in the end all Ponzi schemes fail. When this Ponzi scheme fails healthcare will be a moot point indeed! GOOOH has a plan worthy of supporting to clean the House in the midterm elections this fall, but will the bubble hold that long?

Posted by: Ed Taylor | January 24, 2010, 10:49 am 10:49 am

“If corporations didn’t abuse their employees there wouldn’t be unions.”
Unions are wht the auto industry is toast. Detroit is the epitome of what unions can do for you.

Posted by: drjohn | January 24, 2010, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Thank God we have a supreme court to keep balance against politicans that think they are ointed ones. Now he comes out and blasts Supreme Court Rulings and free speech. He’ll have to shut down free speech on the radio next.
And he took an oath to uphold the constituion? Maybe he did swear the ooath under the Koran.

Posted by: pw | January 24, 2010, 11:01 am 11:01 am

The NY Times is a corporation.

Posted by: drjohn | January 24, 2010, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Public Employee Unions Are Sinking California
Months after closing its last budget gap, the Golden State is $20 billion in the red.
- WSJ

Posted by: drjohn | January 24, 2010, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Any other Libertarians concerned about this power grab? The right wingers are telling us it’s OK, but, they seem to be too enthusiastic about it. Based on other things they’ve been enthusiastic about the past decade or so, I say this is a bad idea. Won’t all of this infusion of cash just create an atmosphere where all decisions are based on who stands to profit the most? How will the average guy’s voice be heard? Who will bankroll the interests of average Joe? Conservatives are telling us that corporations, because they’re made up of people, will serve the best interests of the people. I don’t buy that for one second. Corporations are one dimensional, they are profit driven and they serve Wall Street, not Main Street.

Posted by: Matt | January 24, 2010, 11:21 am 11:21 am

I’m a Libertarian and don’t have a problem at all with it (along with 57% of the American people, according to a Gallup poll).

Posted by: JoeM | January 24, 2010, 11:32 am 11:32 am

“Won’t all of this infusion of cash just create an atmosphere where all decisions are based on who stands to profit the most?”
You seem to believe that “outspend = election win” and seem to have little faith in the average American’s ability to discern between slick ads and substance.
Admittedly, I haven’t seen the data, but I would not be surprised to learn that Dems outspent Republicans in NJ, VA, and MA.
One other note: A primary mission of corporations is to make a profit. If corporations choose to funnel earnings towards political causes (therefore, at the expense of profits) CEOs will need to justify these expenses to shareholders and Boards of Directors which I expect will keep excessive spending in check. Furthermore, there are corporations that support Democrats, so Dems will “benefit” as well as Republicans.

Posted by: tjp612 | January 24, 2010, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Now there’s a kettle calling the pot black. Obama and his cronies, bribe members of Congress with our tax dollars to get what he wants. Guess he can’t stand the competition. Since these guys are going to do what they planned all along, let’s modify their oath to state that they will be the smallest crook they can be.

Posted by: James L. | January 24, 2010, 11:51 am 11:51 am

“If corporations choose to funnel earnings towards political causes (therefore, at the expense of profits) CEOs will need to justify these expenses to shareholders and Boards of Directors”
The expense of buying the government will be fully justified, I can guarantee that. Even a tiny investment will be way beyond the scope of non-corporate competition.

Posted by: Skip | January 24, 2010, 11:54 am 11:54 am

Obama complaining ? Where did he get the $750 million on donations for his campaign? $20 donations? Please! Obama is a joke!!

Posted by: Cw | January 24, 2010, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

None of you people get what’s really going on here. It not Republican or Democrat; and it certainly not about the money, money is just “keeping score,” with the loser footing the bill.
This is about the rich ruling class developing an endless supply of cheaper labor. The robber barons did it with Chinese building the railroads. Ford, Chrysler and Chevrolet broke the UAW with help from the oil companies and the Saudis.
Competition is a good thing provided it’s a level playing field.
Read your history books (although, remember, history is written by the winners); but the common thread throughout history is: “Governments are instruments created by the wealthy to make the people doing the work believe in fairness. If a working man believes he is being treated fairly his loyalty will be permanent.”

Posted by: ellaroot | January 24, 2010, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

Corporations should have freedom of speech and should be treated as humans? I thought freedom of speech was for humans and corporations and other entities can be legislated? Now can drug, cigarette, guns, porn and alcohol companies have no restrictions anymore? Can foreign corporations have no restrictions placed on them? Can these and other companies not be regulated anymore as this will be a violation of their freedom of speech? Wow, this is a biased right-wing court. This is one thing that President Bush will be known for; far biased activist judges on the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Jeffrey1234 | January 24, 2010, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

History really does repeat itself: “When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.” –- French economist, statesman and author Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850)

Posted by: Robert | January 24, 2010, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

When a movie star supports a political candidate they could be donating millions of dollars worth of their time and their good name. Why should a corporation be prevented to pays that same movie star to say a few words in support of a candidate sympathetic to the corporation?

Posted by: tillyerkt | January 24, 2010, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

“This is one thing that President Bush will be known for; far biased activist judges on the Supreme Court.”
I don’t think I’ve ever heard Justice Kennedy (who wrote opinion for the majority) referred to as an “activist judge”…

Posted by: tjp612 | January 24, 2010, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

The expense of buying the government will be fully justified, I can guarantee that. Even a tiny investment will be way beyond the scope of non-corporate competition.
Posted by: Skip |
This isn’t about whether corporations have undue influence, it’s just about negotiating a price with the influence peddlers.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | January 24, 2010, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Ahmedinejad is Iran’s George W. Bush…

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

So much for democracy. Corruption wins, America loses….

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

Did you notice when Bush-Cheney were in power, they, the GOP and the right wing dispised the US Constitution? Now they are all for it. Wonder why….

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

How much personal worth has the GOP destroyed? How many businesses, families and individuals have gone down the drain?? I hope you’re all proud of yourselves for all the destroyed lives. The Republicans crashed the economy, sabotaged the recovery and blame the Democrats: Corruption wins!! – AMERICA LOSES…….

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

Professor Tribe , you let this one slip through . He has no regard for the Constitution .

Posted by: nat turner | January 24, 2010, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Semtenial1943 I agree.
The payed off Judges were:
Roberts and Alito joined Kennedy and Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas.
A bill should be passed to limit the terms of Judges(even the president has a 8 year term limit), Judges should be elected to serve the best interest of the people who elected them (not a party or president), Judges should not have immunity to the LAW.
There should be an impeachment of the Judges.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 24, 2010, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

These Judges believe that have reached GODLY qualities.
These Judges should be sent to Gatmo.
Treason to the people they supposed to be servants to, not big profit machines Corp.
Tea Party is fighting the wrong battles.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 24, 2010, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

Think of it:
1. You have a job for life and no one can fire you. (which means at age 90 you can make decisions that will affect future generations)
2. You can retire and keep your salary and still make money at speeches.
3. You are immune from the LAW.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 24, 2010, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

For all you lefties who seem to think a “Corporation” is some form of alien life with no rights:
Webster’s: corporation
1 a : a group of merchants or traders united in a trade guild
2 : a body formed and authorized by law to act as a single person although constituted by one or more persons and legally endowed with various rights and duties including the capacity of succession
3 : an association of employers and employees in a basic industry or of members of a profession organized as an organ of political representation in a corporative state

Posted by: reprovemedia | January 24, 2010, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Its VERY interesting to note that the lefties had NO problem with the media corporations, CBS, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, NBC and FOX, who have TOTAL control of the airwaves, being EXEMPT from this law…………

Posted by: reprovemedia | January 24, 2010, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

BO is sounding and acting like Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez….. I wonder if ole BO would like to be President for life…

Posted by: reprovemedia | January 24, 2010, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Wrong: the definition of a corp. is not a person who have the right to vote.
DEF,.
The most common form of business organization, and one which is chartered by a state and given many legal rights as an entity separate from its owners.
ORGANIZATION IS THE KEY.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 24, 2010, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Lefties sure do hate the Constitution…
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Posted by: Vet1973 | January 24, 2010, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

I wonder if any of these idiots who are bad mouthing the decision have actually read it, and can give some intelligent arguments why it is wrong……. other than the fact they hate people who create jobs….. and dont GIVE them money….. all I see are idiots using the Democrat tactic of making “Boogiemen” out of corporations

Posted by: reprovemedia | January 24, 2010, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

I suspect we’ll see a broad bi-partisan coalition form to try to set some kind of limits on the amount of money corporations, unions and other special interests groups are allowed to spend on political advertising.

Posted by: tierra | January 24, 2010, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

If Obama hates this decision… It must be good for America.

Posted by: RM | January 24, 2010, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

Comes to this Poor Republicans who are for this, If you are Filthy Rich, I understand.(it is in your best interest)
If you build your house from the Roof down (Rich view point) OK
If you build your house from the floor up (working class) OK
or
If you water your plant from the leaves with hopes the root will get some (Rich Greed)
If you water your plants at the roots (Working Class)
Which will work in the long run, after the suffering of Millions of Americans losing their homes.
Big Business did not lose a home in 2007.
Big Business is afraid just as the Supreme Court is of the small contributions of Millions of Americans to Obama in the last election.

Posted by: UNDERDOG | January 24, 2010, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

I think it’s GRRRRRREAT. Now we will know who not to vote for.

Posted by: MissyAnn | January 24, 2010, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Yes, BO wants to be President for life!

Posted by: stevemb12 | January 24, 2010, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

this is comming from a president who pledge to accept government funding for his presidential election , then broke his promise, got almost 1 billions dollars of outside special interest money.
here is the top obama election donors
University of California $1,591,395
Goldman Sachs $994,795
Harvard University $854,747
Microsoft Corp $833,617
Google Inc $803,436
Citigroup Inc $701,290
JPMorgan Chase & Co $695,132
Time Warner $590,084
Sidley Austin LLP $588,598
Stanford University $586,557
National Amusements Inc $551,683
UBS AG $543,219
Wilmerhale Llp $542,618
Skadden, Arps et al $530,839
IBM Corp $528,822
Columbia University $528,302
Morgan Stanley $514,881
General Electric $499,130
US Government $494,820
Latham & Watkins $493,835
Who is talking about corporation influences here.
HOW HYPOCRITE !

Posted by: john | January 24, 2010, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Hey, hey, hey!!! The Obama Administration didn’t say they were against ALL Corporate contributions… Hollywood is exempt (e.g., NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC), and any other Corporation that hasn’t figured its way through the loopholes that allow them to launder their contributions through China.
It’s only the Independent and Conservative contributions which they consider to be “devastating.” After all, they’d rather have unfettered access to Americans, allowing them to “shape public opinion” without conflicting messages during the 30- to 60-second commercial breaks.

Posted by: Laughing_All_the____Way | January 24, 2010, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

How much personal worth has the GOP destroyed? How many businesses, families and individuals have gone down the drain?? I hope you’re all proud of yourselves for all the destroyed lives. The Republicans crashed the economy, sabotaged the recovery and blame the Democrats: Corruption wins!! – AMERICA LOSES…….
Posted by: Sentinel1946 | Jan 24, 2010 1:38:09 PM
Did you notice when Bush-Cheney were in power, they, the GOP and the right wing dispised the US Constitution? Now they are all for it. Wonder why….
Posted by: Sentinel1946 | Jan 24, 2010 1:34:23 PM
So much for democracy. Corruption wins, America loses….
Posted by: Sentinel1946 | Jan 24, 2010 1:32:40 PM
______________________________________
You can bet your ass, the Republicans and the top 5% bailed out of the stock market in time to ensure their power and their money – leaving the rest of America to sink.

Posted by: tierra | January 24, 2010, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Socailists don’t like it when the courts uphold the Constitution, expect, of course, when it benefits them.

Posted by: Andy | January 24, 2010, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

Corporations were limited to certain extent, but still managed to give to candidates they liked through various legal loopholes. Now it will be a free for all where legislators are even more tied to the corporate money. Nonprofits with partisan political ties launder corporate money to candidates at present, so lots of corporate money is still getting to candidates. In future if candidates don’t vote the way corporations like no support or candidate will be crucified with TV ads during relection campaign. Corporations are controlling both parties way too much at present. I see this ruling strengthening rule by, for corporation only. Yes, and it all is a money issue. Eveyone, all political parties, these elected officials are politicians who try to sell themselves.

Posted by: Sharon | January 24, 2010, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

There is not hypocrite like a Republican hypocrite. There is not crook like a Republican crook. There is no liar like a Republican liar. Mismanagement of our government, incompetence, abuse of power, corruption – all Republican “specialties”….

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

Republican corruption wins – AMERICA LOSES….

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

Obama has had corporations like GE, ABC, CBS, NPR all carrying his party line. Now other companies will be free to give their views and Obama will not be controlling the message. Too bad Obama, we are a free country despite your best efforts.

Posted by: brian | January 24, 2010, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm

You might have noticed that the economy crashed under Republican supervision. If there were serious problems with the financial system when the Republicans took over, any competent manager or CEO would have recognized it – and fixed it before a crisis erupted. Republican management of our government either 1) Did not recognize any problems 2) Saw the problems but did nothing 3) Purposely eliminated any remaining regulation and encouraged the greed and corruption. The answer is #3…..

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

The Republicans crashed the economy, sabotaged the recovery and blame the Democrats: Corruption wins!! – AMERICA LOSES…….It’s called the “Republican Block & Blame Game”.

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

I cringed when Bush-Cheney were elected in 2000, I puked on the ground when they were reelected in 2004 – because I knew more bad things were going to happen with those two and the GOP in power – and I was right. My worst fears came true. They took our economy down and launched chaos around the planet. Corruption put them in power and corruption brought our country down. And can you believe it – these same people have been sabotaging the recovery that Obama has been trying to launch. Even with the sabotage, he is gaining ground. But the lies, sabotage and slander have taken their toll. Corruption has won another round – and AMERICA HAS LOST ANOTHER ROUND! The Republicans weakened our country in every way possible. By overseeing the crash of our economy – once America’s strength that fueled all our other strengths – the Republicans have put our nation is jeopardy like it has never been before; weakened education of our kids, weakened competitiveness in all areas, weakened our ability to protect ourselves, weakened our science, weakened our hope for the future, destroyed the lives and futures of families, businesses and individuals. Yet the Republicans during the Bush-Cheney era did not “own” any of the problems they caused. The right wing blames Clinton before them and Obama after them. If there were serious problems with the financial system when the Republicans took over, any competent manager would have recognized it – and fixed it before a crisis erupted. Republican management of our government either 1) Did not recognize any problems 2) Saw the problems but did nothing 3) Purposely eliminated any remaining regulation and encouraged the greed and corruption. The answer is #3.

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

This just proves all the right wing lying, slander, sabotage and treason have taken their toll. Corruption wins, America loses….

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

Bush-Cheney and the GOP neutralized all regulatory agencies – and actually encouraged the greed and corruption. That’s right, they corrupted every Federal agency and department – including the Department of Justice….

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

Greed and corruption tends to go wild when the Republicans are in charge – the perpetrators have less fear of regulation and being prosecuted. As we all know, things got way out of hand during the Bush-Cheney era – the result of which we are all paying for now….

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

tierra, you’re right. Also, how about the wealthy who were hiding money overseas so they wouldn’t have pay taxes on it? Enough is never enough for the greedy….

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

UNDERDOG: Giv’em hell!

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm

There is no hypocrite like a Republican hypocrite. There is no crook like a Republican crook. There is no liar like a Republican liar. Mismanagement of our government, incompetence, abuse of power, corruption – all Republican “specialties”….

Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 24, 2010, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

Having an election based on honest information is almost impossible already. Large corporations already have too much control of government. They have lobbyists, they fly them places influence them, they write the wording in the bills, and they contribute huge amounts of money to both parties for election campaigns. Now the SCOTUS says the rich and powerful don’t have enough voice in government!!?? What good is our vote if it is legal for the rich and powerful to spend unlimited moneys to further distorted information about the candidates. Have we inched even closer to being a government of the corporation, by the corporation, and for the corporation?

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | January 24, 2010, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Those of you beating up just the republican or just the democrats are part of the problem. Both parties put themselves first, their corporate backers second, and the needs of Americans third. It would be my wish to vote out the 20 most powerful republicans and the 20 most powerful democrats in the next election. Then they might pay attention to the people. Neither party is going to change as long as they can convince voters that the other party is the cause of our incompetent government.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | January 24, 2010, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

“Have we inched even closer to being a government of the corporation, by the corporation, and for the corporation?”
Naw…Citizens get to vote, corporations don’t. Uh, you didn’t mention unions..

Posted by: Sigmonde | January 24, 2010, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

“I puked on the ground when they were reelected in 2004 ”
I hope you were thoughtful and cleaned up your mess.

Posted by: Sigmonde | January 24, 2010, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

Sigmonde-Your vote doesn’t mean anything when you consider the number of people that vote based on the distortions of the truth. The best candidate does not win. It is the candidate with the best marketing plan and luck. Obama won because of best marketing during primaries and luck in the election. If the economy had not collapsed when it did, McCain would have won. However, if the economy is not doing well, the controlling party loses.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | January 24, 2010, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

Sigmonde-As far as Unions and all other groups included in the decision. They are to be blamed for distortions in election campaigning too. But it is the Corporations that run government. I favor no contributions for elections. There should be a large number of debates in various formats that the parties do not have a say. They show up to debate or leave their chair empty during debates.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | January 24, 2010, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm

“Your vote doesn’t mean anything when you consider the number of people that vote based on the distortions of the truth.”
Show me your statistics on the number of people who vote based on distortions of the truth.

Posted by: Sigmonde | January 24, 2010, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

“But it is the Corporations that run government.”
Which corporation runs Massachusetts?

Posted by: Sigmonde | January 24, 2010, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm

Right Obama spends more than has ever been spent on a election.. and now he finds faults with special interest after one of his main fund raisers goes to jail for political corruption. Republicans and Democrats sell their votes before they are elected and anytime there is an important vote it will be put off as long as possible so all of our elected officals can have time to collect from all the lobbists.
Why do you thing they have lobbists if nnot to deliver the plain white envelopes full of hundred dollar bills.

Posted by: welrdelr | January 24, 2010, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

Gee a lot of people think they can blame this mess on a president. Where was Congress ? Many people believe the present financial problems and unemployment problems were caused crooks in the financial and the real estate markets selling homes to people that could not afford them and then allowing these Wall Street Ponzi crooks to package the worthless paper and sell it all around the world. Actions and lack of actions by congress caused the biggest real estate bubble (inflation) that has ever occurred over a short period of time. Like all Ponzi schemes the triangle grows until there are too many people at the bottom of the triangle and many of those at the bottom were unable to sell the house that they just paid 500,000 dollar for more then 275,000 dollars… So this giant Real Estate Ponzi scheme made many of the people that worked for financial institutions, appraisal companies, Wall Street traders and Real Estate firms millions of dollars and when the bubble burst it left those that invested in the worthless paper holding an empty sack. So how do we fix this problem which was really caused by Wall Street taking money from retirement funds, cities, counties, foreign countries and ultimately the tax payers of the United States? This is neither Obama’s or Bush’s fault but it was our Congresses fault because they allowed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to loan money to people without jobs or the ability to pay the money back … And at the same time our financial institutions loaned money to people that were speculators but said they were buying the homes as their primary residence .. record keeping was so poor that often several houses were sold to the same person who said he was going to live in all of them, he did this so he could obtain a low interest loan. First we try and stop the deflation by not printing any more money and we stop deficit spending. We stop giving money to people and companies that caused the problem. We put regulations on loans that will stabilize the home market and not encourage speculation because the last bubble was caused by speculation. How do you stop speculation? You stop speculation by not allowing people to buy houses and relist them for thousands of dollars more than they paid for them. You stop speculation by selling homes to people that work for a living and want a primary residence. You stop speculation by making it a crime punishable by jail time for individuals paying people to fill out loan documents or purchase a home. You do not fuel the real estate market by rewarding people to buy houses this will only cause another bubble. In the last few years there were so few regulations on buying a house that people would work together getting new financing on a home that no one intended to keep or make payments on. Appraiser were a big part of the problem I have seen houses appraise for twice as much as what they were worth and the banks made the loans. I have known of people that paid people to take out loans and move into houses but no one ever made payments on the loans. The government can not help the housing market by creating another bubble. But then there is another problem which is there are millions of houses that have been foreclosed or being foreclosed on and the banks would go under if they wrote off all of these loans. So how do you fix that problem ? At present the government is dealing with this problem by trying to inflate the prices of homes and by giving people money to purchase homes…. How many taxpayer dollars will be spent rewarding the Real Estate professionals that are part of the problem ? It seems that our government is intent on rewarding those that were major actors in the creation of this financial crisis. What other positive actions can government take to solve these problems besides regulating home loans and speculation and how do they solve the problem of the foreclosed homes ? Foreclosed homes need to be carried on the books at the value of the loan against them or many of our financial institutions would go under and at the same time the those holding a property have to pay property taxes which are set by the value of the property…. If it isn’t one thing it is another. If they don’t have the property reappraised they pay more taxes and if the property’s book value goes down they have to go out of business. I went to a bank auction where the high bids on 700 homes (80%) were turned down and I believe that was because the bank could not afford to take the loss on it’s books as the bids were about 50 percent of the foreclosed loan. This problem with banks failing might not have an easy answer because as the housing prices fall people that have jobs and owe large amounts on their houses will purchase a similar home at a much lower price and rent out their home or walk away from their present loan causing another foreclosure. So after 5000 Characters there is only one answer to saving many banks and it is contrary to all I have written and believe and that is “Inflation”.. What else ?

Posted by: welrdelr | January 24, 2010, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

Sigmonde-I already explained how corporations run the federal government so I am not going to repeat myself. Secondly is your question about my proof that people vote based on distortions of the truth. That is easily answered with two questions. (1)What percent of campaign ads are 100% truthful? That means they don’t tell a fact that distorts what really happened. Michael Moore is one of the best of using facts that distort the truth. (2)Does marketing and smear campaigns work? Therefore, huge numbers of votes are made not on who the best candidate for the country, but is based on distortions of a campaign marketing plan. As with any rule of how things operate, there are exceptions once in a while, but this is typical of most highly contested national campaigns between the two parties.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | January 24, 2010, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

“Therefore, huge numbers of votes are made not on who the best candidate for the country, but is based on distortions of a campaign marketing plan.”
So, assume that 50% of voters (Dem, Rep,and Ind) are persuaded by marketing, how would that change the election outcome? And if there were no marketing of candidates, how would you know they are telling the truth with their promises?

Posted by: Sigmonde | January 24, 2010, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm

Sigmonde-How old are you? You don’t appear to understand the very basics of marketing, elections, or government. There are plenty of good sites with the information. Both parties admit that the other party does distortions and dirty tricks to win the elections by fooling the voters. They just don’t admit their own party does. Go back to any of the last three presidental elections to see claims the two parties made against each other and the amount of money they used to spread this misinformation. There are also sites that have examples of campaign distortions of both parties and how they do it. Study Michael Moore because he is one of the best examples of how to use a lot of facts to create a distortion of the truth. We have become a media nation with information everywhere and being forced on us in ads, phones, email, etc. Even if there were no distortions and lies, it is difficult to know which candidate will be best to handle the situations our country will face in the next four years. The SCOTUS allowing even more money to be used by the most powerful to bombard us with even more ads is only going to make electing the best person more difficult and cheapen the value of our vote.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | January 24, 2010, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

This is neither Obama’s or Bush’s fault but it was our Congresses fault because they allowed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to loan money to people without jobs or the ability to pay the money back …
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I don’t think this you’re entirely accurate.
Date: Monday, July 1 2002
“President Bush announced an Administration effort to increase home ownership rates among African Americans and Hispanics by 5.5 million by 2010.
“The plan would provide down payment
assistance to 40,000 minority homebuyers each year . . .
“Bush’s plan would be closely tied to some $440 million in minority loan programs offered by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. President Bush commended Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s . . .”
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Bush attempted to create 5.5 million new African American and Hispanic home owners by providing DOWNPAYMENT assistance!
That is Bush, not Congress.

Posted by: tierra | January 24, 2010, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

well, with all the internet info you can track what has been done in the last 10 years of “power to the people” running things, isn’t it about time large corporations had the reins again to run this country o idon’t know WITH SMART FIDUCIARY LOGIC”

Posted by: dannel | January 25, 2010, 6:20 am 6:20 am

“Sigmonde-How old are you?”
Old enough to understand that both parties use marketing tactics to persuade uninformed voters to a particular point of view. This is one reason we have an electoral system and not a one person, one vote system. The will of the people is generally determined by the voters who are smart enough to see through the marketing. Those persuaded by misleading ads of both parties cancel one another out. Voter fraud such as in ACORN is another matter altogether.

Posted by: Sigmonde | January 25, 2010, 7:03 am 7:03 am

Obama is just annoyed that his special corrupt buds over at the unions and acorn will have competition from businesses (who atleast serve a couple of good services such as providing jobs and paying taxes.) Why should the dem special interests be the only ones allowed to put out commercials?

Posted by: horseforfeathers | January 25, 2010, 7:11 am 7:11 am

Really nice to see Obama not wanting all Americans to have freedom of speech, just the ones he choses. Whats next, censorship of the press, or brain washing of elementary school kids?

Posted by: jimbo | January 25, 2010, 8:21 am 8:21 am

Sigmonde-”The will of the people is generally determined by the voters who are smart enough to see through the marketing. Those persuaded by misleading ads of both parties cancel one another out.”
Show me your statistics on the number of people who vote based on those who see through marketing and those that don’t.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | January 25, 2010, 9:30 am 9:30 am

For once, I will agree. This decision, allows corporations, to influence the public vote, which is a travesty of democracy.
Exactly why I have said, and will continue to say, that the judiciary is ruining not only the country, but the world as a whole, with their own corruption.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | January 25, 2010, 10:15 am 10:15 am

“This decision, allows corporations, to influence the public vote, which is a travesty of democracy.”
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | Jan 25, 2010 10:15:13 AM
Right on. We should keep that sort of influence exclusively in the hands of big Liberal media outlets and labor unions who use their campaign muscle and money ONLY for Democrats.
Wake up.

Posted by: Libs, and the Lying Liars Who Elect Them | January 25, 2010, 10:40 am 10:40 am

Judicial activism at its worst.

Posted by: Jim | January 25, 2010, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

No, Mr. President, your administration is “devastating.”
Everybody needs to understand the perspective that is part and parcel of “liberal,” progressive and collectivist
theory.
It’s simple: You, the people, are stupid. We, the “educated” robots, will make your decisions for you.
Double Plus Good!!!

Posted by: Charlemagne | January 25, 2010, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

This decision has nothing to do with liberal or conservative. It has nothing to do with democrats or republicans. My reason to oppose this is that the rich and powerful (which includes unions)have access to our government officials with lobbyists, special trips for officials, assisting them to write the bills introduced, and a lot more money donated for elections. This ruling says that limiting how much money the rich and power can spend on elections prevents them from expressing their freedom of speech. These groups have much more influence on government than any of us real individuals. This deminishes the importance of our free speech. Who are government officials going to listen to, the billionaire running a huge corporation with corporate jets to transport them to meetings or to the average guy that has a pickup truck for transportation.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | January 25, 2010, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Anybody who voted for Bush can’t talk because you also helped messed the country up for eight years. If you gave hime eight you can give Obama 3 more. It is easy to talk, people were suffering under the Bush Administration Bush cut Medicare, Medicade and any program that benefited the poor. A don’t agree with all of Obama’s policies but when you find something against him all the time I wonder is it hate. You can dislike a person and come to accept things and go on. But when you constanly run somebody in the ground
I think it is jealousy. I have people I don’t like but yet still I can give them credit for having some good ideas at times. They don’t want Obama to get any credit for progress at all. I’m for health care reform. I have insurance through my job but those that don’t have need remember one thing after certain people block this what are you going to have nothing. Obama is right when his term is over he will still have benefits and the ones who are blocing it have theirs. Ask yourself if these people will pay your medical bills if it is blocked. I don’t think so.

Posted by: Carla Nelson | January 25, 2010, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

What kind of statement is “Devastating to Democarcy” out of him? He’s been pushing socialism since he started his political path.

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