President Obama Says Suspect Tied to al Qaeda
ABC News’ Yunji de Nies reports:
President Barack Obama says the Nigerian suspect in the Christmas day airline bomb plot has ties to an al Qaeda group.
In his weekly address out this morning, the president said that he has learned more about 23-year-old Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab and for the first time publicly linked him to al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
“We know that he traveled to Yemen, a country grappling with crushing poverty and deadly insurgencies. It appears that he joined an affiliate of al Qaeda, and that this group, al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, trained him, equipped him with those explosives and directed him to attack that plane headed for America,” the president said.
President Obama said the failed airline attack is not the first time the al Qaeda affiliate has targeted the United States.
“In recent years, they have bombed Yemeni government facilities and Western hotels, restaurants and embassies — including our embassy in 2008, killing one American,” he said. “So, as president, I’ve made it a priority to strengthen our partnership with the Yemeni government — training and equipping their security forces, sharing intelligence and working with them to strike al Qaeda terrorists.”
The president now has the preliminary findings of reviews examining both airline screening and intelligence procedures. He and his national security team are working to pinpoint the breakdowns that made it possible for the Nigerian suspect to board a plane with explosives heading to Detroit, even after the suspect’s father warned intelligence officials that his son could be dangerous.
“I will do everything in my power to make sure our hard-working men and women in our intelligence, law enforcement and homeland security communities have the tools and resources they need to keep America safe,” he said. “This includes making sure these communities — and the people in them — are coordinating effectively and are held accountable at every level. And as president, that is what I will do.”
The president has ordered more thorough reviews to be delivered in the coming days. He is wrapping up his vacation to Hawaii and will hold a meeting with the heads of the agencies involved when he returns to Washington. At this point, what is clear is that the intelligence community missed critical warning signals and did not share information appropriately.
“Those failures will not be tolerated,” a senior administration official said.
The political fight over what went wrong is in full force, with high-profile Republicans like former Vice President Dick Cheney accusing Mr. Obama of not taking the terrorist threat seriously enough. Cheney told Politico, “We are at war, and when President Obama pretends we aren’t, it makes us less safe.”
In his weekly address, the president urged unity.
“As we go forward, let us remember this: Our adversaries are those who would attack our country, not our fellow Americans, not each other,” he said. “Let’s never forget what has always carried us through times of trial, including those attacks eight Septembers ago.
“Instead of giving in to fear and cynicism, let’s renew that timeless American spirit of resolve and confidence and optimism,” he added. “Instead of succumbing to partisanship and division, let’s summon the unity that this moment demands. Let’s work together, with a seriousness of purpose, to do what must be done to keep our country safe.”
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Posted by: matt | January 2, 2010, 9:40 am 9:40 am
So Obama waited three days to make a public statement.
Like Ft Hood, Obama portrayed the Christmas attack as an isolated incident.
It took Obama a week to discover what the whole world knew already, and even what the bomber had already admitted. He had ties to AlQaeda.
Brilliant Obama. Way to be on top of things.
I feel safer now.
Posted by: mick | January 2, 2010, 9:41 am 9:41 am
Obama says “So, as president, I’ve made it a priority to strengthen our partnership with the Yemeni government — ” Translation, I will give Yemen more money.
Posted by: CW | January 2, 2010, 9:48 am 9:48 am
We know that 2 of the mastermind al Qaeda planners of the failed Christmas attack were Released from Guatanimo Prison in 2007 by the past Cheney and Bush Republican Administration.
We also remember Cheney on TV recently speaking of Obama being incompetent.
Yet If those two mastermind planners were still at Guantanimo then there would never had been a planned Christmas attack this past christmas.
Posted by: Angie | January 2, 2010, 9:49 am 9:49 am
We also know that one of the two al Qaeda planners for that failed Christmas attack was in a Rehab for terrorists program during 2007, which was the brain child of Bush and Cheney.
We Remember that both Cheney and Bush were on TV in 2007 claiming that the Detanees they were releasing at that time were “Not terrorists.” A statement that now is proven to be a Lie.
Yet if that Al Qaeda planner were still in prison there would had been No attack on Christmas.
Posted by: Angie | January 2, 2010, 9:52 am 9:52 am
The 23 year old Nigerian bomber in Flt 253 IS a terrorist, not a suspected terrorist. There is no need to spend millions of taxpayers’ money on trial of this animal. The money used for the trial could be spent on improving badly needed airline security, such as full-body scanner. The same words above could apply to Major Hasak in the Ft. Hood massacre on Nov. 5, which is a textbook case of attack by Islamic extremists.
Posted by: austin | January 2, 2010, 9:52 am 9:52 am
well put Jake..obama BLAMES al qaeda- DUH! with BO there ALWAYS has to be a demon, a culprit, no matter what the issue. in this case, he ‘analyzed’ meituclously the intel report, ,no doubt using that worthless ivy league education of his, to discover what we have known all along. he is only throwing his much admired muslim brothers under the bus to save his only spineless butt. YOU are the prob barry
Posted by: realman1963 | January 2, 2010, 9:53 am 9:53 am
Once again it looks like our great president will talk another problem to death. I feel so safe with motor mouth running the country.
Posted by: Keith | January 2, 2010, 9:55 am 9:55 am
“We know that he traveled to Yemen, a country grappling with crushing poverty and deadly insurgencies.
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Hm.
Why is he mentioning poverty here?
Posted by: MayBee | January 2, 2010, 9:57 am 9:57 am
We know that Hassan, the Fort Hood shooter was Promoted to a High Ranking Officer during the Bush Cheney Republican Administration years.
We also know that During most of the past 8 years of Bush and Cheney there were warnings and reports in Hassan’s file even Before he was promoted, that he had Anti-American and Pro-Terrorism views.
Posted by: Angie | January 2, 2010, 9:58 am 9:58 am
When is Obama going to admit that the guy thta committed murder at Fort Hood is a terrorist?
Posted by: CW | January 2, 2010, 10:02 am 10:02 am
“Instead of succumbing to partisanship and division, let’s summon the unity that this moment demands. Let’s work together, with a seriousness of purpose, to do what must be done to keep our country safe.”
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You know, unity is great.
But this is a near miss that gave us a great opportunity to review what is going *wrong* with our security apparatus.
Criticism is perfectly valid, especially since this administration has had a tendency to sweep things like this (the shooter in Arkansas, Hasan, this bombing) under the rug, and the evidence was they were about to do it again.
When the message on the day after an obvious breakdown is “the system worked”, criticism is valuable and necessary.
Posted by: MayBee | January 2, 2010, 10:02 am 10:02 am
Republicans are sooo funny. They just love to ignore the fact that it was them who put the two mastermind planners in a position to plan that failed attack in the first place when they were released from Guatanimo in 2007.
Posted by: Angie | January 2, 2010, 10:03 am 10:03 am
Why did Bush and Cheney Promote to High Ranking Officer the Fort Hood shooter Hassan when his file had warnings of his Anti-American and Pro-Terrorism views?
Republicans just love to ignore that they are responsible for setting up the senario where Hassan as a High Ranking Officer would had been over looked.
And all because of New failed policies of the Cheney Bush era which still reeks Havoc over the American People.
Posted by: Angie | January 2, 2010, 10:09 am 10:09 am
Maybe in time he will link Ft. Hood to al Qaeda as well. Even a blind squirrel . . .
Posted by: Ed Taylor | January 2, 2010, 10:11 am 10:11 am
Republicans are sooo funny. They just love to ignore the fact that it was them who put the two mastermind planners in a position to plan that failed attack in the first place when they were released from Guatanimo in 2007.
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Who is ignoring that, Angie?
It’s obviously a problem,and one we need to look at because the future implications are pretty huge.
Posted by: MayBee | January 2, 2010, 10:11 am 10:11 am
Good for Obama. He has finally backed off his “an isolated extremist” language and recognized that the guy was part of a larger terrorist plot orchestrated by al Qaeda. Unless you recognize the problem, you can’t solve it. Now he needs to woodshed (or fire) those within his administration who aren’t with the program.
Posted by: ARR | January 2, 2010, 10:14 am 10:14 am
In his weekly address, the president urged unity.
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Maybe he is starting to realize how disruptive and destructive were the constant accusations and baseless criticisms he and his fellow Democrats spewed at Mr. Bush, both at home and abroad.
Perhaps he now realizes that it is harder to be a president than it is to criticize one.
Posted by: tj | January 2, 2010, 10:17 am 10:17 am
Matt, aren’t Republicans American? Really do you think that Democrats are any different? For the past few years Democrats railed Republicans due to the origin on an idea. The Democrats were the party of “No”, now the coin has flipped.
BTW – I agree with everything Mick said.
Posted by: Systems engineer | January 2, 2010, 10:17 am 10:17 am
Perhaps he now realizes that it is harder to be a president than it is to criticize one.
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I hope so.
President Obama would hate having to deal with a Candidate Obama.
Posted by: MayBee | January 2, 2010, 10:21 am 10:21 am
This revelation must have came from the alleged Homeland Security secretary Napolitano. In God We Trust but not this gang of reprobates.
Posted by: temple62 | January 2, 2010, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Wasn’t there a earlier attempt to strengthen ties with Yemeni government?
Didn’t people in the Clinton administration order a US warship to make a port call in Yemen in the interest of building a better relationship?
Let’s see, what was the name of that ship… USS Cole?
Posted by: tj | January 2, 2010, 10:24 am 10:24 am
Republicans are sooo funny. They just love to ignore the fact that it was them who put the two mastermind planners in a position to plan that failed attack in the first place when they were released from Guatanimo in 2007.
Posted by: Angie | Jan 2, 2010 10:03:35 AM
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And who were the ones pressuring Bush and Cheney to release all the gitmo prisoners? Thats right the left wing nuts and MSM that refuses to see them as what they are. Dangerous nutjobs. I doubt Bush or Cheney would have released them if it wasn’t for the constant bleating of the sheep on the left.
Posted by: rylin25 | January 2, 2010, 10:27 am 10:27 am
I’m sorry. Say what you will, but it is the President of the United States that is finally forced to pull his head out of the sand and admit there are terrorists who would attack our country. I don’t care about his politics, he is in the first chair and he needs to commit to fighting terrorism, before the next attack is more damaging than it should be.
Posted by: James L. | January 2, 2010, 10:29 am 10:29 am
Angie:”Why did Bush and Cheney Promote to High Ranking Officer the Fort Hood shooter Hassan when his file had warnings of his Anti-American and Pro-Terrorism views?”. The fact is Hassan was not a high ranking officer in Walter Reed hospital in DC. He was a practicing psychologist, with nobody report to him. He has no access to weapons, so he had to spend money to buy a high power pistol from a gun store in Texas to carry out the massacre.
Posted by: austin | January 2, 2010, 10:31 am 10:31 am
Only took Obama eight days to connect the dots. Sharp as a tack!
Holy cow–300 people were so close to being killed. If the underwear bomber had decided to set off the device the bathroom they would all be dead.
It was a major screw up on Obama’s watch.
Pretty soon he’ll be talking “terrorist, jihadist, War on Terror” and may fire a few people just to make himself look good.
Posted by: kandy | January 2, 2010, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Hey folks, blaming stuff on people from before is really getting old. Blaming Bush is more convenient than fact, and it ain’t working no more. If these guys keep trying to blame others for stuff that happens on their watch, nothing will ever get done. Nest thing you know Obama will blame George Washington for us having a country in the first place. Time to fish or cut bait.
Posted by: James L. | January 2, 2010, 10:35 am 10:35 am
Angie, Obama has had the same info on the Fort Hood shooter that the Bush admin had. The Bush admin didn’t do anything so it is okay that the Obama admin. didn’t do anything? Cant blame one and not the other. Maybe they are both to blame? Both admins dropped the ball on this!
Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? | January 2, 2010, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Wow! This guy Obama is finally catching on! Amazing!
Posted by: LongT | January 2, 2010, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Obama is just now accepting the fact that it was Al-Qaeda? Wow! The terrorist told him, Al-Qaeda took responsibility but Obama is just now realizing it. The intelligent president doesn’t have a clue.
Posted by: CW | January 2, 2010, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Hey Obama! Fort Hood killer is also a terrorist.
Posted by: CW | January 2, 2010, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Has nobody noticed that, yet again, the President and former professor of constitutional law is compromising the rights of the accused to a fair trial with such prejudicial statements?
Posted by: Bob | January 2, 2010, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Wow, it only took the Man-child in Chief a week to figure this out? Hmmm, apparently not the genius he is cracked up to be….
On the grading himself of a “solid B+” should maybe lower the security grade of this pathetic administration to a “solid F-”….
Posted by: TxBoB | January 2, 2010, 10:52 am 10:52 am
there ALWAYS has to be a demon, a culprit, no matter what the issue.
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so, that’s a problem with the President from your perspective. Just the President? Because from the other side of your mouth, and the mouths of your likeminded comrades, it sounds an awful lot like demonizing, finding a Democrat to be scapegoat, no matter the issue…
Right wingers…What a bunch of close-minded, self-righteous, saber rattling hypocrites.
Posted by: Cheshire Cat | January 2, 2010, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Obama is just now accepting the fact that it was Al-Qaeda? Wow! The terrorist told him, Al-Qaeda took responsibility but Obama is just now realizing it. The intelligent president doesn’t have a clue.
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CW, and all others bashing President Obama for ‘just now’ catching on: President Obama waited until the statements of a terrorist and a terroristic organization could be confirmed.
Posted by: malcat | January 2, 2010, 10:55 am 10:55 am
Look, the guy didn’t even have a valid passport! But the system is working?
Posted by: LongT | January 2, 2010, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Yemen, name rings a bell. Doesn’t Yemen have a long history of human trafficking? Doesn’t that history continue today?
Posted by: tj | January 2, 2010, 11:00 am 11:00 am
malcat………Obama is still on vacation. Playing golf. If this had been Bush you would be all over it. Obama is totally disconnected from the American people.He just doesn’t seem to care.
Posted by: CW | January 2, 2010, 11:02 am 11:02 am
President is finally able to connect the dots only after getting the answer from his adminstration and his liberal democrats. I guess this puppet president is not allowed to say a word unless it’s approved by the Liberals who have a tight leash on him on what to say only after he is given permission.
Posted by: skypilot123 | January 2, 2010, 11:02 am 11:02 am
President Obama waited until the statements of a terrorist and a terroristic organization could be confirmed. Posted by: malcat
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Jake had this article on Dec. 28th:
Political Punch: Obama Administration Calls BS on Al Qaeda Claim
December 28, 2009 3:27 PM
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Napolitano AND Gibbs Dec 27th: The system worked. They used the same verbage, so this talking point probably came from the WH.
Obama on Dec 28th: “Isolated Incident”
Posted by: wheresmymoney | January 2, 2010, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Better late than never. So I applaud this.
He was rightfully criticized by those who care about our country. Those who want to defend him no matter what his failures ,can go right ahead with their heads in the sand. You disqualify yourselves from serious discussion, by your purely idealogical support of the president.
Posted by: jonny | January 2, 2010, 11:09 am 11:09 am
I think Obama and the Nigerian Authority need to check Mr Muttallab SNR . Is not everyday that people go to embassies looking for their children. What is his connection with this part of the world, why is he the chairman of the first Islamic Bank in Nigeria? Is this a gratitude for funding. We did this for you ,so give us your son?
Posted by: onyeke | January 2, 2010, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Well, Obama plays pass the buck again, and he would have a lot more problems if he didn’t have Al-Qaeda to blame…again and again.
Bottom line is Obama’s administration got caught literally with their shorts down and they are the ones to blame and nobody else.
Just like 911, the government knew when and where and did nothing.
Obama is just a continuation of more of the same idiotic policies.
Posted by: CC | January 2, 2010, 11:17 am 11:17 am
It took Obama 8 days to catch up with the rest of us.
Posted by: Elle | January 2, 2010, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Does nobody notice? The President is prejudicing the right of an accused to a fair trial, one of the consequences of using the civilian courts.
Posted by: Bob | January 2, 2010, 11:20 am 11:20 am
His ‘Poll Czar’ must have given him the word.
Posted by: LongT | January 2, 2010, 11:22 am 11:22 am
We knew that. The young mans father and he admitted it on the news. If this isn’t a wake up call and it is time to stop being politically correct but honest. He was a muslim extremist and yes it does hurt the good muslim community but it is what it is. A terror act in the name of a religion.
Posted by: Steve | January 2, 2010, 11:23 am 11:23 am
“Its been more than a week”….. and Duuuuhhhh…. I finally figure it out…. duuuuuhhhhh its those ole meanie al Qaeda guys again….. duhhhhhh
Posted by: Vet1973 | January 2, 2010, 11:33 am 11:33 am
“Instead of succumbing to partisanship” ya right… LOOK in the Mirror BO…… and I noticed you put quite a few partisan SLAMS in your little teleprompter speech here… BO is so full of partisan crap….
Posted by: Vet1973 | January 2, 2010, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Good for Obama. He has finally backed off his “an isolated extremist” language and recognized that the guy was part of a larger terrorist plot orchestrated by al Qaeda. Unless you recognize the problem, you can’t solve it. Now he needs to woodshed (or fire) those within his administration who aren’t with the program.
Posted by: ARR | Jan 2, 2010 10:14:24 AM
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Interesting you would know this before he did.
Posted by: keredte | January 2, 2010, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Sure are a lot of people here who just KNEW it was al Qaeda and expected the president to say so before checking facts and finding out how.
Posted by: keredte | January 2, 2010, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Well gee, didn’t the rest of humanity know this a week ago ? Maybe if Mr. O’Babble would stop babbling for a day or two he’d have time to read The Drudge Report.
Posted by: Ron | January 2, 2010, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Sure are a lot of people here who just KNEW it was al Qaeda and expected the president to say so before checking facts and finding out how.
Posted by: keredte | Jan 2, 2010 11:46:02 AM
Jake had this article on Dec. 28th:
Political Punch: Obama Administration Calls BS on Al Qaeda Claim
December 28, 2009 3:27 PM
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Napolitano AND Gibbs Dec 27th: The system worked. They used the same verbage, so this talking point probably came from the WH.
Dec 28 from Obama: “Isolated Incident”
Obama on Dec 28th: “Isolated Incident”
He DENIED it was al Queda before he “checked the facts.”
Posted by: wheresmymoney | January 2, 2010, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Obama needs to start learning what the phrase “The buck stops here” really means.
Posted by: LongT | January 2, 2010, 11:56 am 11:56 am
as a Turkish journalist i agree mr. president’s all comments about blame El-kaide. also El-kaide killed my own people too. (el-kaide’s november 2003 İSTANBUL-TURKEY explosion). they killed so many innocent turkish peoples in this attack. they are not friend with islamic peoples. because they are killing muslim peoples too.
Posted by: ahmet yurdadogan | January 2, 2010, 11:58 am 11:58 am
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!! WOW!!! Blame Qaeda? NOOOOOO! Qaeda let this guy on the plane? Qaeda screwed up on the security? WHAT…..I bet You liberals bought this statement, even Bush wouldn’t say something as lame as that….LOL
Posted by: libertyfreedom | January 2, 2010, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
What an idiot!! This is his typical well I have to say something statement. Hope and change folks, hope and change.
Posted by: Ken | January 2, 2010, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
Obama get back out on the golf course, you have played more golf in just one year than Bushes entire 8 years, get out there and try to surpass the last 20 presidents combined, don’t worry about the 7,000,000 not working
Posted by: libertyfreedom | January 2, 2010, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
The political fight over what went wrong is in full force, with high-profile Republicans like former Vice President…Cheney accusing Mr. Obama of not taking the terrorist threat seriously enough…
In his weekly address, the president urged unity.
Posted by: progressive mama | January 2, 2010, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
Adding on to my last post, EJ Dionne also points out President Obama’s more deliberate style when it comes to war and foreign policy, a style, btw, I much prefer. Dionne notes, “Republicans were shameless in politicizing the incident, knowing that rehabilitating Bush’s approach to terrorism depends upon discrediting Obama’s. The president can’t afford to give them anything to work with, as he finally seemed to grasp….”
Exactly. The thing it always seems to take the President awhile to catch on about has nothing to do with the terrorists.
Posted by: progressive mama | January 2, 2010, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
It is truly sad that a majority of the American people were fooled by the Hope and Change message. It offered hope but has delivered only despair and corruption. It has created Change but not the type the people expected.
He has no clue what he is doing or how to protect this country. He is a great speaker from a teleprompter delivering words written for him to speak. He is a terrible spontaneous speaker creating gaffes and rambling worse that Clinton. At least Clinton had a clue about what he was doing and why. Obama only seems to be following the lead of someone (question is who). We are in deep trouble in this nation until the voters have an opportunity to turn out those leading the current debacle.
Posted by: Allen, ND | January 2, 2010, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Obama needs to stop trying to catch up… he was born “slow,” so he needs to just accept it.
He needs to get back on his re-election campaign… the one he initiated last January, and the ONLY real issue that he has been focusing on ever since.
What a LOSER of a LEADER we have in that MORON!!!
Posted by: Laughin__ALL_The_Way | January 2, 2010, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Let;s face it, Obama can’t handle the job. He conned people into voting for him with his promise of “change and hope”. He has no experience running anything. Why would anyone think he can a country? Ridiculous!
Posted by: CW | January 2, 2010, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
onyeke, your post makes no sense, and the premise of your “argument” and conjecture is downright silly. Maybe, you should explain yourself better
Posted by: what667 | January 2, 2010, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
This President views unity only in terms of agreement with him. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid had no intention of unity in governing. We have the numbers and we are going to ram whatever we want through Congress and let the poor taxpayers eat cake if they can find it.
The Stimulus package was not a stimulus but an earmarks bill with all types of goodies for their friends. If the benefits trickle into the economy great but it bought them lots of “friends” in their base and contributions from lobbyists that benefited from the earmarks. No different in the omnibus bill passed before Christmas.
There has been no transparency, no critical review of earmarks, nothing of substance for the good of the country.
The Stimulus bill was not even read by those voting on it because it was so important it be passed now even though most of the spending would not occur until 2010 (passed in Feb 2009). The Health care bill had to be passed before Christmas but the vast majority of any benefits will not be seen until 2013 though the taxes start in 2010.
Anyone who continues to support this bunch does not have an ounce of common sense.
Posted by: Allen, ND | January 2, 2010, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
“Why did Bush and Cheney Promote to High Ranking Officer the Fort Hood shooter Hassan when his file had warnings of his Anti-American and Pro-Terrorism views?”
Posted by: Angie | Jan 2, 2010 10:09:28 AM
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You might do a little homework before making such a statement in the future. First of all, Nidal Malik Hasan was promoted from Captain to Major in May 2009. In case you don’t recall, President Obama was inaugurated on Jan. 20, 2009. Now having said that…
The President of the United States only gets involved in Army promotions to One-Star (Brigadier) General or higher–pay grade of O-7 or higher. Nidal Malik Hasan was a Major–pay grade O-4. Therefore according to the usmilitary, under the title of “Army Commissioned Officer Career Information General Procedures” it states the following:
“Officers promoted from captain through colonel are selected by HQDA centralized boards. Selection boards are asked to recommend fully or best qualified (as appropriate) officers from an inclusive zone of consideration (ZOC). The ZOC includes officers from above, in and below the promotion zone. When the number of officers being considered exceeds the maxi-mum number to promote, the boards operate under a best qualified criteria. Centralized boards, except captain, are provided minimum promotion requirements (floors) by branch, functional area or area of concentration to ensure the Army’s skill and grade mix balances with its needs. Recommendations are based upon branch and functional area competency, the potential to serve in the higher grade and the whole person concept. Factors considered include:
(1) Performance.
(2) Embodiment of Army values.
(3) Professional attributes and ethics.
(4) Integrity and character.
(5) Assignment history and professional development.
(6) Military bearing and physical fitness.
(7) Attitude, dedication and service.
(8) Military and civilian education and training.
(9) Concern for soldiers and families.”
Posted by: James Danley | January 2, 2010, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
After 9/11, that awakened us all — Bush – 7 years – NO succesful attacks on our soil —- Obama – 11 months – TWO succesful attacks (if not for a faulty fuse)on our soil. —- You libs always wanted to blame Bush (the buck stops there) for everything — now you can’t blame underlings when terror acts happen under Obama — what goes around, comes around!!
Posted by: HoosierValues | January 2, 2010, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
NEWS FLASH!! Republicans have beat out the Taliban and Al Qaeda as the biggest terror threat to the United States. Through their mismanagement, incompetence, corruption, political and economic sabotage, stupidity, failed domestic and foreign policy, etc, etc, they have managed to destroy the U.S. and World Economies and have caused political chaos around the planet. GO GOP!! GO REPUBLICONS!!
Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 2, 2010, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
NEWS FLASH!! The Republicans are the least fit to lead and the least qualified to criticize! They screwed everything up and they have been sabotaging efforts to fix their screw-ups! In other words, the Republicans don’t want Democrats fixing their problems because it will confirm what we all know: Republicans are guilty of mismanagement, incompetence, corruption and stupidity. They need to shut their lying, slandering, corrupt mouths and get out of the way of progress. The behavior that strikes directly at the American people: Republicans have been sabotaging our economic recovery for political gain. The party of “NO” continues its lies, sabotage and treason. Let’s take even more power away from them in 2010! There’s some that need to be thrown in jail too….
Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 2, 2010, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Another NEWS FLASH!! Don’t forget that the Republicans have been sabotaging our economic recovery! How many more Americans have to crash with destroyed futures before everyone realizes that the Corrupticons are not fit to lead………
Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 2, 2010, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Obama lives in another world he and his staff are not in touch with world we live in. Their collective actions cost lives of Americans. Holder and the rest of Obama staff are nothing short of a disaster for all Americans.
The question is can we Americans survive 3 more years of Obama and his stupidity?
He has been all talk and has not kept his promises with the voters, we were all lied too.
Posted by: a citizen | January 2, 2010, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
So….you mean this wasn’t an “isolated” incident? Darn! Who’d have thunk?
Posted by: Max | January 2, 2010, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Angie.The Fort Hood terrorist was promoter during Obama’s presidency. He was also allowed to attend Homeland Security meetings. Get a clue!!!
Posted by: CW | January 2, 2010, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Profile NOW before its too late! Look for middle eastern looking men buying one way tickets paying with cash and carrying no luggage. Quit screening the rest of us.
Posted by: Scott T. | January 2, 2010, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Anyone who continues to support this bunch does not have an ounce of common sense.
Posted by: Allen, ND | Jan 2, 2010 12:30:19 PM
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That’s how the vast majority of Americans… and Europeans.. and Aussies.. and others… feel about the vast majority of misguided GOP (and Bush and power/wealth/deregulation status quo)defenders. Seriously. Not one iota of common sense, because as Dionne puts it, its not all that unlikely that “the past 10 years will be seen as a time when the United States badly lost its way by using our military power carelessly, misunderstanding the real challenges to our long-term security, and pursuing domestic policies that constrained our options for the future while needlessly threatening our prosperity.”
Posted by: progressive mama | January 2, 2010, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Obama calls the TERRORISTS “adversaries”
Get a clue Obama! They are terrorists.
Posted by: CW | January 2, 2010, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
“Hey Obama! Fort Hood killer is also a terrorist.”
Posted by: CW | Jan 2, 2010 10:46:33 AM
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Actually since we are at war with the Islamic extremists, and Nidal Malik Hasan being a Major in the Army who took up the Islamic extremists’ cause and then shot and killed 13–all but one active duty personnel–he is a TRAITOR. I am still waiting for President Obama or even Attorney General Eric Holder to add TREASON to the list of the charges against Major Hasan.
Posted by: James Danley | January 2, 2010, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Sentinel1946 – NEWS FLASH!! The Independents want our country BACK from BOTH the Republocrats and Demoblicans. You are BOTH useless as representatives of “We the People.”
BOTH parties either focus on REGAINING power, or RETAINING power.
In 304 days, they’re BOTH going to be sent PACKING!!! And 2 years after that, Obama and his clan will be heading out of town too.
Posted by: Laughin__ALL_The_Way | January 2, 2010, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
David Brooks:
“Human institutions are always going to miss crucial clues because the information in the universe is infinite and events do not conform to algorithmic regularity.
Resilient societies have a level-headed understanding of the risks inherent in this kind of warfare.
But, of course, this is not how the country has reacted over the past week. There have been outraged calls for Secretary Janet Napolitano of the Department of Homeland Security to resign, as if changing the leader of the bureaucracy would fix the flaws inherent in the bureaucracy. There have been demands for systemic reform — for more protocols, more layers and more review systems.
Much of the criticism has been contemptuous and hysterical…”
Posted by: progressive mama | January 2, 2010, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
That’s how the vast majority of Americans… and Europeans.. and Aussies.. and others… feel about the vast majority of misguided GOP (and Bush and power/wealth/deregulation status quo)defenders.
Posted By: Progressive mama
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Never said I agreed with the War in Iraq. I thought that escapade was going to do exactly what occurred. It would divide the country, use excessive resources needed in other areas, over extend our military, and open the door for liberal activists to take over Congress and the Office of the President.
The Democrats took control of the House in 2006 and effectively could block anything in the Senate. Don’t forget it was their opposition of financial reform going back all the way to 2003 that led to the meltdown in September 2008. Now Obama has just given Fannie and Freddie a blank check to use the taxpayers wallet while those at Fannie and Freddie fatten the coffers of the Democrats.
I don’t like the Republicans but they are less destructive than Democrats if for no other reason than they do less.
Posted by: Allen, ND | January 2, 2010, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
All obama has to do is apologize once again and it will make it all better.
Posted by: Bob | January 2, 2010, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Glenn Greenwald:
“Demands that genuinely inept government officials be held accountable are necessary and wise, but demands that political leaders ensure that we can live in womb-like Absolute Safety are delusional and destructive. Yet this is what the citizenry screams out every time something threatening happens: please, take more of our privacy away; monitor more of our communications; ban more of us from flying; engage in rituals to create the illusion of Strength; imprison more people without charges; take more and more control and power so you can Keep Us Safe.
This is what inevitably happens to a citizenry that is fed a steady diet of fear and terror for years. It regresses into pure childhood.”
This whole point highlights a certain hypocrisy I see in the tea party/conservative meme about being all about independence and self-determination. Glad its not just me– though I don’t think its just a conservative problem. Overall, as a country we have to grow up a bit.
Posted by: progressive mama | January 2, 2010, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Links bomber to terror group first time? hmmm
In contrast to Republicans who never admitted that in 2007 they released two of the planners for the failed jet liner attack.
In contrast to Republicans never admitting that if they did not release those two planners, then the Christmas attack would never of happened in the first place.
In contrast to Republicans like Cheney making statements that the detanees they released in 2007 were not terrorists. A statement that was recorded on the news media on TV.
In contrast to the Republicans never admitting that their mistakes when they were in power, is now reeking havoc over us, the American people.
Posted by: Angie | January 2, 2010, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae
By STEPHEN LABATON
Published: September 11, 2003
WASHINGTON, Sept. 10— The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.
The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.
”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.
”I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,” Mr. Watt said.
Posted by: Scott T. | January 2, 2010, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
NEWS FLASH!! More fake Republican outrage coming to a blog near you!!
Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 2, 2010, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Bush tried to avert economic disaster by REGULATING the Democrats as far back as 2003. The Democrats would have none of it. Affordable Social Housing or spreading the wealth killed our economy. Government is to blame. Period.
Posted by: Scott T. | January 2, 2010, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
“THE SYSTEM WORKED”! What a crock full of CYA coming out of Obama! Does anybody believe anything he says? Did he say he was going to start treating this like a war and stop reading Miranda rights to murdering terrorists and giving the million dollar lawyers? Did he say he was going to scrap plans to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on Circus trial in NYC? Did he say he would stop persecuting the heroes who kept us safe after 9/11? Did he say he would order and end to the travesty with those Navy Seals facing Court Martial because a murdering terrorists says they hit him? Did he announce he would stop planning on spending billions to bring hundreds of murdering terrorist to the heartland of the U.S.? Obama has personally pulled apart the security systems put in place after 9/11. Does anybody feel safe?
Posted by: valwayne | January 2, 2010, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Laugh_in_All_The-Way………Well said.
Posted by: CW | January 2, 2010, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Domestically, Obama inherited an economic catastrophe. Dealing with the wreckage required a large expenditure of public funds that increased a deficit already bloated by the previous president’s decision to fight two wars and to cut taxes at the same time. Bush’s defenders, preferring to focus attention away from this earlier period of irresponsibility, act as if the world began on Jan. 20, 2009, by way of saddling Obama with the blame for everything that now ails us. But the previous eight years cannot be wished away.”
Posted by: progressive mama | Jan 2, 2010 12:13:52 PM
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The Dems were voting during the last 8 years. They controlled both the house and the senate the last 2. Obama voted present 130 times in the Illinois Senate and didn’t vote at all NUMEROUS times in the US Senate. Is this why he wants to claim no responsibility?
He said he wanted bi-partisanship, yet when the Republican’s wanted to discuss the stimulus, his comment was, “I won.”
Stimulus bill that “had to be passed immediately otherwise a crisis would become a catastrophe”: Less than 1/3 of the money has been spent. The majority of the money will be spent next year (election year). Billions in earmarks.
Defense bill: 4.6 Billion in earmarks. Obama specifically stated that if this bill had earmarks, he would veto it. He did not. How many air marshalls would this pay for? But we are paying for museums in the defense budget.
Healthcare reform: Bipartisan? No, it a Democratic bribery laden bill that does NOTHING to FIX the rising costs.
The DEMS are spending money not to fix irresponsibility, but because “THEY CAN”.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | January 2, 2010, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Posted by: Allen, ND | Jan 2, 2010 12:57:55 PM
the factors that led to the economic meltdown go back way before 2003– and I think the Economist actually gets it right (meaning if you’re going to point fingers there, get all ten ready and be honest, or admit you’re being partisan, because there were Republican and Democrat appointees at the Fed, Repubicans and Democrats in Congress, a couple administrations at least– both Republican and Democrat, home buyers, real estate agents, Wall Street firms, mortgage brokers, an obscure accounting rule, deregulation, and a pretty big collective delusion)–
The Economists version: “This financial crisis is a genuinely democratic one, with hard-working homeowners and billionaire villains each playing a role… I suppose a whiff of scapegoat might be a kind of homeopathic treatment for sclerosis of the account, but a more comprehensive response in which each of us owns up to his or her role and sacrifices for the solution sounds much more promising.”
Okay, so that said: Given all that Bush managed to do, I think its a joke to day Republicans do “nothing” unless you mean they do nothing to solve problems or make the middle class and the poor better off (and up front, I’ll just admit I’m totally partisan and see no problem with it, but I’m willing to be real if someone meets me halfway. I don’t like politicians but I like Obama and many Democrats better than their alternatives– and I think the government doesn’t have to be the enemy as the government is “us.”)
Posted by: progressive mama | January 2, 2010, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
progressive mama – Obama didn’t “inherit” squat!!
There are over 500 politicians in Washington screwing us over today, and he was one of them prior to being the HNIC.
Inherit? BS!!!
Posted by: Laughin__ALL_The_Way | January 2, 2010, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Not that I want to be the spoiler, but how many vacations and trips does Obama get to take in the less than a year he has had this job? Do ou have any idea how expensive it is for him and his entourage to travel all the time! Think of where he went his first seven months in office. Now, we have a terrorist attack and he needs his down time in Hawaii? Are we paying for his vaca too?
Posted by: Ann | January 2, 2010, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Ann – Just to irritate you a bit more… every time this MORON travels, his motor pool – yeah, his entire MOTORCADE – are delivered by the U.S. Air Force prior to his arrival!! And then flown back to Washington.
After all, it wouldn’t look good for “da boss” to be standing in line at Alamo!! Not that he’d actually have a valid credit card in his pocket anyway.
But hey, he’s “one of us,” huh? LOL!!!
Posted by: Laughin__ALL_The_Way | January 2, 2010, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
I agree with CW. Also, in April, General Petraeus said that Yemen was a recruiting ground for al-Qaida. Yet President Obama had the bright idea of transferring 3 Guantanamo prisoners there. More recruits! Obama has ignored the advice of past and current CIA directors and has decided to spend more time going after the CIA than going after terrorists. Rumor has it that President Obama has seriously curtained the US ability to collect foreign intelligence related to our national security. Only recently have Obama and his director of homeland security been convinced that there is such a thing as terrorism. Do we know if the Christmas bomber is part of a larger plot? We will never know until it is too late because Obama’s policy is to treat terrorists the same way we would treat a US citizen arrested for shoplifting.
Posted by: Carl | January 2, 2010, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
NEWS FLASH!! The Republicans are the least fit to lead and the least qualified to criticize! They screwed everything up and they have been sabotaging efforts to fix their screw-ups! In other words, the Republicans don’t want Democrats fixing their problems because it will confirm what we all know: Republicans are guilty of mismanagement, incompetence, corruption and stupidity. They need to shut their lying, slandering, corrupt mouths and get out of the way of progress. The behavior that strikes directly at the American people: Republicans have been sabotaging our economic recovery for political gain. The party of “NO” continues its lies, sabotage and treason. Let’s take even more power away from them in 2010! There’s some that need to be thrown in jail too….
Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 2, 2010, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
This is crazy – he is spending money like we had it! My grandchldren will be paying for his bailout mess!
I can’ afford to get my hair cut, but I can sure help pay for big momma,grandma, congress and everyone else to get theirs free – on the US public. I don’t see Pelosi driving to work in a 10 year old chevy and she has FREE health care on us too.
Posted by: Ann | January 2, 2010, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
emands that political leaders ensure that we can live in womb-like Absolute Safety are delusional and destructive.
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Strawman.
Greenwald is free to make whatever arguments he’d like about the balance of liberties/privacy and safety. Pretending people are ridiculous for wanting competence in the agencies tasked with executing the safety mechanisms is a poor substitute for good arguments.
It was this administration, after all, who decided the solution was going to be telling us the system worked plus taking away pillows and bathroom breaks in the last hour of a flight.
Why is balking at that such an absurd, childish response? I think it’s very reasonable.
Posted by: MayBee | January 2, 2010, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Sentinel1946 – You mentioned “…least qualified…”
Talk about pitching a meatball…
So, tell us, what “experience” does YOUR party’s moron in the White House have?
LOL!!!!!! I wouldn’t hire him to flip burgers, much less run the country.
Posted by: Laughin__ALL_The_Way | January 2, 2010, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Plus, the “absolute safety!” criticism sounds absurd coming from people who want the government intervening/regulating almost every other aspect of our lives.
Posted by: MayBee | January 2, 2010, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
First: “the system worked!”
Then: “an ISOLATED terrorist”
Now the truth – at least part of it – comes out.
It’s called “GROSS INCOMPETENCE AND FAILURE TO PROTECT AMERICA!”
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Posted by: Laughin__ALL_The_Way | Jan 2, 2010 1:15:22 PM
See my post @ 1:10:59 PM. My view is if you’re going to point fingers, be willing to step up. If you’re just a partisan, admit that too.
I think Dionne is right that he inherited the mess. If my uncle ran a family business and I worked for that business, and then inherited it upon his death per my wishes– and if the business were a mess, I would have inherited the mess– whether or not I’d worked for the business, and whether or not it was my wish to take over. Its a silly argument those on the right make. Its just about blanket denial and an unwillingness to look at our problems square on. Better to find scapegoats and shout NOOOOOO! Better to paint Obama as petty and the blamethrower, when there are infamously more blamethrowers tied to the opposition.
Posted by: progressive mama | January 2, 2010, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
It is scary that the U.S. government is spending so much resources searching people’s underwear baggage and drinks, while terror groups are using these minor attacks as a way to effectively cripple the U.S. economy. The airlines should be regulating and checking the baggage of their passengers–the government needs to effectively prevent terror groups from forming and operating. The CIA actually allowed a terrorist onto a base with bombs strapped to his body–and these guys are hopefully better trained than the TSA.
Really, the government needs to stop granting visas to terrorists and terrorist groups–so far they have failed at this simple task multiple times. AQ is more than likely planning a WMD attack on the U.S., but the U.S. Republican/Democrat government is busy strip searching grandmas.
Posted by: PauJacob23 | January 2, 2010, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Plus, the “absolute safety!” criticism sounds absurd coming from people who want the government intervening/regulating almost every other aspect of our lives.
Posted by: MayBee | Jan 2, 2010 1:29:18 PM
Says you in regards to “the people.” I see the Republican party as the interventionist party– and the big spending party. (Didn’t Reagan triple the deficit– and, um, what did Bush the Younger do to it again?) I actually don’t think all government spending is bad; in Reagan’s case it helped with the recession– but the elected officials on the right talk out of both sides of their mouth about it very, very consistently and have throughout most of my lifetime.
The absolute safety argument makes perfect sense to me— I see it. It actually makes my skin crawl a little its so juvenile… and hypocritical for some.
Posted by: progressive mama | January 2, 2010, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Can’t help but to think of Neville Chamberlain – policy of appeasement fails every time. Obama will continue to fail as he tries to appeases our enemies, apologize for America’s greatness and attack our Intel community, i.e., Eric Holder’s war on the CIA. This retired CWO4 is sick of the POTUS record.
Posted by: fedup_11 | January 2, 2010, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
progressive mama – how did we jump to government spending under Reagan?
I’m talking about womb-wanting absolute safety Republicans being set up as a strawman argument by the womb-wanting healthcare/mortgage protection/credit card protection/college for all progressives.
You may see people who want absolute safety. Of course, because there are any number of people who want any given thing in this country.
Most people who I’ve seen want a balance of safety and freedom, but also want competence from those who we’ve put in charge of whatever safety mechanisms we’ve chosen.
Mistakes will happen, but let’s not pretend when they are made they should just be ignored.
Posted by: MayBee | January 2, 2010, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Don’t you think it is time to quit blaming the past and finally look toward the future? We need to take care of business today, not yesterday! The longer blame is being placed, no one is taking action on what is being planned against our Country! Get over the past, people (Obama especially), and get a grip on this Nation!
Posted by: Kathy | January 2, 2010, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Every President takes this country with its full (now 230 or so) years of history. There is no such thing as a clean slate when you take the job. There are few “new” problems in the country or in the world that come up during any President’s tenure. Sometimes we know what landmines have been set, and sometimes they are something that surprise us.
It isn’t that anybody thinks Obama had a brand spanking new country when he took the oath on January 20, 2009. It is simply that he needs to learn to deal with it and take ownership. Other Presidents have.
Posted by: MayBee | January 2, 2010, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
As soon as one method of destruction is discovered and the terrorist find out what is known they will simply change tactics. Which makes it a tough job for any administration regardless of the “jersey” they wear. However, these guys that are hell bent on destruction and the killing of innocent victims are not worthy of our system of justic, should be treated as warriors and dealt with accordingly and to do any other way shows that we just have not learned our lessons of the 70′s, 80′s and 90′s.
Posted by: david | January 2, 2010, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
I’m talking about womb-wanting absolute safety Republicans being set up as a strawman argument by the womb-wanting healthcare/mortgage protection/credit card protection/college for all progressives.
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I’m talking of the hypocrisy of that, right there. What did Reagan spend all that money on? The unrealistic womb-wanting of absolute safety via a monster-sized defense complex while not dealing with the more realistic aspects of setting up a reasonable safety net for citizens.
Greenwald: “The citizenry has been trained to expect that our Powerful Daddies and Mommies in government will — in that most cringe-inducing, child-like formulation — Keep Us Safe. Whenever the Government fails to do so, the reaction — just as we saw this week — is an ugly combination of petulant, adolescent rage and increasingly unhinged cries that More Be Done to ensure that nothing bad in the world ever happens. Demands that genuinely inept government officials be held accountable are necessary and wise, but demands that political leaders ensure that we can live in womb-like Absolute Safety are delusional and destructive….A citizenry drowning in fear and fixated on Safety to the exclusion of other competing values can only be degraded and depraved.”
Posted by: progressive mama | January 2, 2010, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
I also like this John Adams quote that Greenwald cites:
“Fear is the foundation of most governments; but it is so sordid and brutal a passion, and renders men in whose breasts it predominates so stupid and miserable, that Americans will not be likely to approve of any political institution which is founded on it.”
Posted by: progressive mama | January 2, 2010, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
what “experience” does YOUR party’s moron in the White House have?
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More cheap name calling. Juvenile.
Posted by: tierra | January 2, 2010, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Demands that genuinely inept government officials be held accountable are necessary and wise, but demands that political leaders ensure that we can live in womb-like Absolute Safety are delusional and destructive….A citizenry drowning in fear and fixated on Safety to the exclusion of other competing values can only be degraded and depraved.”
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Yes, I absolutely agree that the idea that we live in womb-like Absolute Safety is delusional and destructive.
I just think Greenwald has the wrong people pegged on who is *really* demanding that.
Posted by: MayBee | January 2, 2010, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
tierra – Sorry, what “experience” does YOUR party’s bobble-headed, finger-puppet in the White House have?
Better?
I know, it’s MUCH easier to call me juvenile than it is to try and list his “accomplishments.”
Posted by: Laughin__ALL_The_Way | January 2, 2010, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Tierra
You are always here defending Obama, why don’t you tell us of his experience?
Posted by: CW | January 2, 2010, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
I just think Greenwald has the wrong people pegged on who is *really* demanding that.
Posted by: MayBee | Jan 2, 2010 2:11:27 PM
And I think there are some on both sides of the aisle, in two different ways, though more on the right (of course)– and I think those Greenwald mentions absolutely exist, were on display to some extent this past week and often get overlooked by conservatives when they accuse and make various claims, some of which I consider extreme and hypocritical to the extreme.
Worth mentioning the article in my opinion– I saw that he linked to Brooks and I actually liked both columns. I like to read various views.
Posted by: progressive mama | January 2, 2010, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
notice how tierra never answers a question? Can’t list anything good Obama has done or list anything he is willing to take responsibility for. deflect. progressive mama, you need to take a look at your own party when speaking about fear mongering. We have had “crisis” after crisis, or so we are told, with this president also, yes Obama now ownes EVERYTHING! He has been in office for a year. It’s time he grows up and accepts this fact or leaves office. I may not know a lot of things but I do know that if I ran a company for a year and things went from bad to worse I would be fired by the owner or board. They certainly wouldn’t accept the excuse, “well it’s the last guys fault” and Americans shouldn’t either!!!!! Get your heads out of the sand people. Obama might think he is doing the right thing for America but he has never ran anything in his life, what in the hell made you people think he could run our country?
Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? | January 2, 2010, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Worth mentioning the article in my opinion– I saw that he linked to Brooks and I actually liked both columns. I like to read various views.
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As do I, but Brooks and Greenwald is not such a wide variety.
And of course, as I said, you can find someone, somewhere, spouting any position you want to see. Of course the people Greenwald refers to exist, but setting up a whole argument against them as if it is and argument for what *he* wants is nothing more than a victory over strawmen. It is certainly no defense for the poor showing we saw all around on the Detroit bomber.
Posted by: MayBee | January 2, 2010, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Tierra
You are always here defending Obama, why don’t you tell us of his experience?
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Try doing your own research. He’s been President for a year now, and will be for another three. I know you’re capable of it and you’ll have lots of time.
Posted by: tierra | January 2, 2010, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
OBAMA SAYS
“We know that he traveled to Yemen, a country grappling with crushing poverty and deadly insurgencies. It appears that he joined an affiliate of al Qaeda, and that this group, al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, trained him, equipped him with those explosives and directed him to attack that plane headed for America,”
It’s amazing the extent this moron goes to try to justify why terrorist are terrorist. Who cares where terrorist grow up. How they grow up. Nothing justifies killing innocent people. And him being in nigeria means nothing. This man was living a comfortable life. His family is well to do. This is nothing about him being poor.
God, i truly hate this president
Posted by: damian | January 2, 2010, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Tierra.
In other words you can’t tell us Obama’s experience so have to attack me personally.
LOL
Posted by: CW | January 2, 2010, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
another gem from the idiot
“As we go forward, let us remember this: Our adversaries are those who would attack our country, not our fellow Americans, not each other,” he said. “Let’s never forget what has always carried us through times of trial, including those attacks eight Septembers ago.”
It was your adminstration that published a guide calling militia members, neo conservatives, pro life gun owners radicals…
So, now that you’re in the hot seat. Don’t try to deflect the criticsm by demanding we all unite. Just do your damn job and keep the country safe…
Posted by: damian | January 2, 2010, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
If this President O’Babble is serious about winning the war on terror I suggest that he put Newt Gingrich in charge.
Posted by: Ron | January 2, 2010, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
whatsgoingonhere? saya ***(Lots of BS snipped for space limited) Obama might think he is doing the right thing for America but he has never ran anything in his life, what in the hell made you people think he could run our country? ***
LOL Geee I guess the same thing that made you and your buddies think that a person that ran EVERY business his daddy ever set him up with into the ground could run a country. Who was that you ask? GWB. And what’s with you’re instant “you have to turn it around in a year or you own it” BS? It took 8 years to screw the economy to hell but Obama has to fix it on 6 months? LOL You’re too funny and either not too bright or a hypocrite.
Posted by: bp | January 2, 2010, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
“Try doing your own research. He’s been President for a year now, and will be for another three. I know you’re capable of it and you’ll have lots of time.”
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Posted by: CW | Jan 2, 2010 2:51:23 PM
You call that ‘attacking’ you? I don’t think so. I’m serious, you’ll have 3 more years, do some research.
Posted by: tierra | January 2, 2010, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
ALEX H says ****
First: “the system worked!”
Then: “an ISOLATED terrorist”
Now the truth – at least part of it – comes out.
It’s called “GROSS INCOMPETENCE AND FAILURE TO PROTECT AMERICA!” ****
LOL first these quotes weren’t made by the same person. second did you say the same when Richard Reid (aka the shoe bomber) failed to down his plane/target or are you just another finger pointing hypocrite? And seriously how do you consider one person out of 100′s of millions slipping through security a “GROSS INCOMPETENCE AND FAILURE TO PROTECT AMERICA!”?
Posted by: bp | January 2, 2010, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
tierra – You suggested that he would be president “…for another three.”
Actually, he’s got 304 days to do all the damage he set out to do… after that, he’ll just be another LAME DUCK.
Posted by: Laughin__ALL_The_Way | January 2, 2010, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
bp, you are true to form are you not. I would think that after 1 year there should be some some improvement in some area. You cant deny that Obama has never run anything in his life and it shows! Oh and since your reading skills are not up to par, I never said he had to fix anything in 6 months. I said he has been in office for 1 year and he needs to man up and accpet responibility for his actions or lack there of. You are to funny in your blind devotion of this lack luster president and you and other believers on this site are laughable! By the way how can you assume to know I supported Bush? Just because someone doesnt think Obama is doing a good job doesn’t mean they supporte Bush. There were many things Bush did that I didn’t agree with. I can admit that. You Obama worshipers can not/will not do the same. You do know what happens when you assume don’t you?
Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? | January 2, 2010, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
I suggest the obama supporters go up one article and discuss the shaved ice. Issues, policies, and what’s next are for the Independents to decide now. The liberals blew their chance and failed.
Posted by: Jenny | January 2, 2010, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
There were many things Bush did that I didn’t agree with. I can admit that. You Obama worshipers can not/will not do the same.
Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? |
It is extremely rare for someone to post here and defend Obama in terms of his accomplishments. In poker that’s call a tell.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | January 2, 2010, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Foghorn, I agree! All they ever do hurl insults, blame Bush, and/or deflect. I’m with laughin_all_the_way. hahaha
Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? | January 2, 2010, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Lori and Kurt Haskell were eyewitnesses aboard the underwear bomber flight to Detroit..
here is their account..funny that their story HAS not changed,while the governments version of events has changed no less than 3 times already..and as they say..
a lie must be backed up by another lie must be backed up by another lie and on and on..you know ..the 9-11 stuff..
Ever since I got off of Flight 253 I have been repeating what I saw in US Customs. Specifically, 1 hour after we left the plane, bomb sniffing dogs arrived. Up to this point, all of the passengers on Flight 253 stood in a small area in an evacuated luggage claim area of an airport terminal. During this time period, all of the passengers had their carry on bags with them. When the bomb sniffing dogs arrived, 1 dog found something in a carry on bag of a 30 ish Indian man. This is not the so called “Sharp Dressed” man. I will refer to this man as “The man in orange”. The man in orange, who stood some 20ft away from me the entire time until he was taken away, was immediately taken away to be searched and interrogated in a nearby room. At this time he was not handcuffed. When he emerged from the room, he was then handcuffed and taken away. At this time an FBI agent came up to the rest of the passengers and said the following (approximate quote) “You all are being moved to another area because this area is not safe. I am sure many of you saw what just happened (Referring to the man in orange) and are smart enough to read between the lines and figure it out.” We were then marched out of the baggage claim area and into a long hallway. This entire time period and until we left customs, no person that wasn’t a law enforcement personnel or a passenger on our flight was allowed anywhere on our floor of the terminal (or possibly the entire terminal) The FBI was so concerned during this time, that we were not allowed to use the bathroom unless we went alone with an FBI agent, we were not allowed to eat or drink, or text or call anyone. I have been repeating this same story over the last 5 days. The FBI has, since we landed, insisted that only one man was arrested for the airliner attack (contradicting my account). However, several of my fellow passengers have come over the past few days, backed up my claim, and put pressure on FBI/Customs to tell the truth. Early today, I heard from two different reporters that a federal agency (FBI or Customs) was now admitting that another man has been held (and will be held indefinitely) since our flight landed for “immigration reasons.” Notice that this man was “being held” and not “arrested”, which was a cute semantic ploy by the FBI to stretch the truth and not lie.
Posted by: newfy777 | January 2, 2010, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
It’s called “The buck stops here”. Obama may finally be catching on to what that means. Talk about ‘on the job training’!
Posted by: LongT | January 2, 2010, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
WHAT BAMA needs is more people in his corner like[cold cash] jefferson.
Posted by: paws 7000 | January 2, 2010, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Laughin__ALL_The_Way: Speaking of meatballs: You are not qualified to hire somebody to flip hambergers…
Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 2, 2010, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
NEWS FLASH!! The Republicans are the least fit to lead and the least qualified to criticize! They screwed everything up and they have been sabotaging efforts to fix their screw-ups! In other words, the Republicans don’t want Democrats fixing their problems because it will confirm what we all know: Republicans are guilty of mismanagement, incompetence, corruption and stupidity. They need to shut their lying, slandering, corrupt mouths and get out of the way of progress. The behavior that strikes directly at the American people: Republicans have been sabotaging our economic recovery for political gain. The party of “NO” continues its lies, sabotage and treason. Let’s take even more power away from them in 2010! There’s some that need to be thrown in jail too….
Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 2, 2010, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Sentinel1946—Ok repeat after me, I know I screwed up voting for someone who has done nothing but worked for the goverment, and nothing but be a community organizer, and who listened to a racist preacher for twenty years and who hung around with known terrorist, and was nothing more than a freshman senator, and I know I have been duped. I am sorry and will never make that mistake again, I promise.
Posted by: billy bob | January 2, 2010, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Sentinel1946, you might as well start preparing right now. By the time that this November’s election comes around the American electorate will remember it was the Republicans who were in the majority during President Clinton’s last SIX years–and the authors of the last 2 budget surpluses.
Posted by: James Danley | January 2, 2010, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
I thought Obama said last week this was an isolated extremist? And Napolitano said the system worked? Blind luck and an incompetent terrorists worked. What system? The citizens jumping this guy and saving their own lives? If this is going to be left up to us then why does the Federal Gov needs $3 Trillion a year for a budget? Start scanning al middle eastern looking men buying one way tickets with cash and no luggage. Profile now before its too late. Quit scanning the rest of us.
Posted by: Scott T. | January 2, 2010, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
NEWS FLASH!! If there is a dishonest person in the Democratic Party, you can at least pick him/her out of the crowd. On the other hand, the entire Republican Party is corrupt! Grab any Republican at random out of a crowd – and he/she is corrupt! You can even do it blindfolded!!
Posted by: Sentinel1946 | January 2, 2010, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
This POTUS is speaking like this is a new discovery… These are facts we all
knew by the end of Christmas Day, and the day before Obama made his first naive Statement!! Whom ever is supposed to keep him up to date on things are not doing a good job and should go, right along with Napalitano.
Posted by: NanaForAmerica | January 2, 2010, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
“The system worked.”
I know that the ‘system’ is an epic failure, allowing a Nigerian to board a trans Atlantic flight even though he;
1) Paid in cash
2) had no luggage
3) Did I mention he’s Nigerian?
4) His own Father had reported him to HLS.
To tell me there were failures is to tell me the sky is blue, and that the sun came up today.
Has anyone in the Administration acknowledged that a tragedy was averted only through the incompetence of the bomber, and a quick thinking passenger?
Do they realize that their security procedures still can end up with a blown up plane and lots of dead people?
What I want to know Mr President is WHY Janet Napotolino still has a job. What I want to know, Mr President, is WHY you still have confidence in her.
I want to know what you going to do to make air travel safe again.
Enjoying shaved ice isn’t getting it done.
We desperately need a leader.
We are at Epic Fail right now.
Posted by: MisElaineous | January 2, 2010, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
NEWS FLASH!! If there is a dishonest person in the Democratic Party, you can at least pick him/her out of the crowd. On the other hand, the entire Republican Party is corrupt! Grab any Republican at random out of a crowd – and he/she is corrupt!
How about Ben Nelson’s “Cornhusker Kickback,” as the GOP is calling it, got all the attention Saturday, but other senators lined up for deals as Majority Leader Harry Reid corralled the last few votes for a health reform package.
Nelson’s might be the most blatant – a deal carved out for a single state, a permanent exemption from the state share of Medicaid expansion for Nebraska, meaning federal taxpayers have to kick in an additional $45 million in the first decade.
But another Democratic holdout, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), took credit for $10 billion in new funding for community health centers, while denying it was a “sweetheart deal.” He was clearly more enthusiastic about a bill he said he couldn’t support just three days ago.
News Flash! The entire Democratic side of the isle is corrupt and needs to be thrown out. Payoffs are illegal for the rest of us, why not for the Senate too? I hope they all go to jail for this. Especially Reid.
Posted by: Scott T. | January 2, 2010, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
For the other 49 states to pay all of Nebraska`s new Medicaid participants is completly wrong. This is absolutely unconstitutional. The entire health care bill is unconstitutional. Locking up citizens for failing to buy a health care plan? In a recession? News Flash – Today`s Democrats are Socialists boardering on Communists and they must be defeated!
Posted by: Scott T. | January 2, 2010, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
For the other 49 states to pay all of Nebraska`s new Medicaid participants is completly wrong. This is absolutely unconstitutional. The entire health care bill is unconstitutional. Locking up citizens for failing to buy a health care plan? In a recession? News Flash – Today`s Democrats are Socialists boardering on Communists and they must be defeated!
Posted by: Scott T.
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Don’t forget the payout to Louisiana. 300 million, for that state only.
BTW, Here’s a real news flash:
Dec. 31 (Bloomberg) — The Mayo Clinic, praised by President Barack Obama as a national model for efficient health care, will stop accepting Medicare patients as of tomorrow at one of its primary-care clinics in Arizona, saying the U.S. government pays too little.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | January 2, 2010, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Al Hilal worked for the Political Security Organization (PSO), which is an intelligence agency that reports directly to President Saleh (of Yemen). The PSO operated an official government “deportation” operation, in which veteran mujahedeen were relocated. The U.S. government says al Hilal has admitted that he was tasked with keeping tabs on al Qaeda operatives for Saleh’s government. The U.S. government also charges, however, that al Hilal was really an al Qaeda member who used his position of authority to assist his fellow terrorists.
During one wiretap session, recorded before the 9/11 attacks, they captured a conversation between al Hilal and a senior Egyptian al Qaeda member. The contents are chilling.
“Well, I am studying airplanes! If it is God’s will, I hope to bring you a window or a piece of a plane next time I see you. . . . We are focusing on the air alone. . . . It is something terrifying, something that moves from south to north and from east to west: the man who devised the program is a lunatic, but he is a genius. It will leave them stunned. . . . We can fight any force using candles and planes. They will not be able to halt us, not even with their heaviest weapons. We just have to strike at them, and hold our heads high. Remember, the danger at the airports. If it comes off, it will be reported in all the world’s papers. The Americans have come into Europe to weaken us, but our target is now the sky.”
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In other words, don’t trust Yemen. Any money or training given them will eventually be used to help terrorists.
Posted by: Ferrari5858 | January 2, 2010, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
The Republican-Democrat putdowns and namecalling in this blog are unnecessary and need to cease as a New Year’s resolution IMHO. If 300 people are killed in a plane crash due to al Qaeda, none of those victims will care if the screw up in security was due to a Republican, a Democrat, both, or neither. They’ll only care that they lost their lives due to a security breach. So, let’s get the security holes plugged as a bipartisan effort in 2010 and then come November those who want to vote Republican can, those who want to vote Democrat can and those who want to vote Independent or not at all can. Having said that, if Napolitano isn’t up to the tasks of her job, then she can be replaced. Her track record the past few months hasn’t been reassuring at all in the view of many in all parties, mine included.
Posted by: Rob | January 2, 2010, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
Absuletely, this is tragedy for American and specially our troops. The president of USA has collected his mind; after, 250 warriors lost their life for just two months of Oct. Nov at Afghanistan, innocent American of 253 were almost killed by underware Terrorist at Christmas eve, 13 American soldiers in Hood Ft, Tx passed away thanks to Muslim-American Terror, and 7 CIA Agents including the mom whom had 3 daughters were killed by bomber Terrorist. AMERICAN CONGRESS AND SENATES SHOULD PREPARE TO IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT WHO TOTALLY FAILED TO PROTECT CITIZENS AS WELL AS TO SAVE JOBS 3.5 MILLION EVEN THOUGH HE’S SPEND $787,000,000,000.00. I DON’T TRUST OBAMA ang HIS ADMIN. AS A PRESIDENT OF USA ANY MORE.
Posted by: sharon-ny | January 2, 2010, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
It is extremely rare for someone to post here and defend Obama in terms of his accomplishments. In poker that’s call a tell.
I agree! All they ever do hurl insults, blame Bush, and/or deflect. I’m with laughin_all_the_way. hahaha
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Funny that laughin’ all the way claims any kind of high ground on hurling insults, but here you go, some accomplishments, and I’ve read echoes of them, plus more, on the comment threads some very politically astute liberals.
part one: I think John Richardson at Esquire hits on a few very good points in his piece “Whaddaya Mean Obama Hasn’t Done Anything?”
A couple of points he makes: “A blow-by-blow breakdown of the young president’s first year reveals that today’s frustration stems not from a lack of policy so much as a lack of common ground.”
He concludes with this: “…both sides are so angry and righteous that they can’t even begin to give credit where it is due. When was the last time you heard a conservative cheer about that $288 billion tax cut? Or credit Obama for the centrism it took to appoint McChrystal, Panetta, and Gates? And how many liberals choose to be understanding about the practical difficulties of shutting down Guantánamo, achieving equal rights for gays, or tapping Al Qaeda’s phones?
And where, on either side, can you find a scrap of humility about the staggeringly complex challenge of Afghanistan and Pakistan? Or a scrap of gratitude at having escaped global financial doom?
So the question, a year since we elected him, isn’t how much Obama has accomplished. The question is why we’ve turned so small and mean that we only see half of it — the half we happen to agree with.”
So, from the left, some (paraphrased) accomplishments, some that Richardson rightly points out, some that I’ve added on:
A week before he was sworn in, Obama orchestrated the release of the second half of the TARP money
Two days after he was sworn in, Obama banned the use of “harsh interrogation” and ordered the closing of Guantánamo.
Three days after he was sworn in, Obama reversed Bush’s funding cutoff to overseas family planning organizations — saving millions of lives with the stroke of a pen.
Three days after that, Obama gave a green light to the California car-emissions standards that Bush had been blocking for six years — an important step on the road to cleaner air and a cooler planet.
Two weeks after that, Obama signed the stimulus bill — a $787 billion accomplishment, which I and many others believe absolutely kept states afloat and helped the economy limp along toward a jobless recovery—the GDP and the stock market are both up. It and the budget also allocated funds to green initiatives including the energy grid, medical and scientific research including medical IT and infrastructure and rail.
Ten days after that, Obama formally announced America’s withdrawal from Iraq.
In early March now — Obama erased Bush’s decision to restrict federal funding for stem-cell research.
Also in March, he signed an important omnibus bill protecting public lands.
In April and June, Obama forced Chrysler and GM into bankruptcy.
In June, Obama reset the tone of our relations with the entire Arab world with an important speech —“ an accomplishment that the Bush administration failed to achieve despite a series of desperate PR moves (anyone remember Charlotte Beers?) and a “public diplomacy” budget of $1 billion a year.” This gets mocked by the right, but I think it’s a good thing.
Posted by: progressive mama | January 2, 2010, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
So obama knew about the underwear technique in October and a possible attack on Christmas Day but did nothing about it. Incompentence.
Posted by: Jenny | January 2, 2010, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
part two:
More accomplishments–
On war and foreign policy, where I’m less sure what I think, the President appointed tough guy Stanley McChrystal to head up our military forces in Afghanistan (and so far I kinda like him), significantly increased the number of drone attacks on Al Qaeda, ordered seventeen thousand more soldiers to Afghanistan back in February , deliberately reviewed the strategy, and, ultimately, ordered thirty thousand more troops to Afghanistan. In addition, several high profile arrests of alleged terrorist plotters were made in Denver, New York, Illinois and Texas—and so on.
From a green perspective, CSRwire notes, and I agree: “Looking just at the big picture, or just at the details, observers are bound to be disappointed by the seeming failure to make the two meet. Stepping back, however, one can see the gradual accumulation of incremental changes adding up to some fairly profound shifts toward greater corporate social responsibility.
Likewise, a wider-viewed assessment of Obama’s freshman report card reveals a slow march toward the social, environmental, and economic changes promised in campaign rhetoric. It remains to be seen if this path that Obama is charting will lead to the kinds of paradigm shifts many view as necessary to achieve true sustainability. In the meanwhile, give thanks to SNL writers for hitting our funny bones, making us laugh at the impossibility of reconciling the success/failure dichotomy.” (Assessing Obama’s First Year Through the CSR Lens: Beyond the Success/Failure Dichotomy)
Oh! Also in that same CSR article: “the Obama SEC issued a staff interpretation allowing shareholders to file resolutions on social and environmental risk, which were often nixed under previous regimes. And of course the Obama EPA finally made good on the Supreme Court mandate to regulate carbon dioxide, which sets the stage for carbon reductions even in the absence of Congressional action. Perhaps most significantly, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act married economic bailout to green energy and jobs stimulus, a connection that paves the way toward a low-carbon economy. ”
I’d also point out that we don’t know what fruit Obama’s diplomatic efforts with Russia will bear, or what his efforts in Copenhagen will lead to, since he does focus on the long term, imho.
I like his understated, more spine-steeled chess player than overly-macho-paper tiger approach.
Posted by: progressive mama | January 2, 2010, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
What else is new, Barry? Now you can continue your executive order designating me as being your pet political whipping boy in perpetuity. You are no different than George W. Bush or Bill Clinton. You’re all birds of a feather.
Yo Barry, you had better tell Hill and Bill and Dubya that I will NEVER let it go.What was done to me at Harbor/UCLA and elsewhere is going to get spread with more ferocity as time goes on. Frank Rosenthal filed for divorce on 9/11 of 1980. Eleven days later, Jimmy Carter was at North High in Torrance–Johnny Chung, Hillary Clinton—the same day the Iran/Iraq war broke out. I have the documents to prove it.
Posted by: Luis Rodriguez | January 2, 2010, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Posted by: Jenny |
James Joyner:
“even if Obama had been told that they’re received information that an al Qaeda operative was flying into the country from overseas during the holidays with a bomb in his under drawers — which, again, is massively more information than we had available — it’s not obvious what he could have done about it. We’re already complaining about the new security procedures that got put into place post-attempt — rightly so, since they wouldn’t have helped. It would have been difficult to justify them beforehand….the idea that the president was somehow supposed to stop the underwear bomber based on vague intelligence of an increased terrorism risk over the holidays is unreasonable.”
Of course, being totally unreasonable may not be a vital concern to some.
Posted by: progressive mama | January 2, 2010, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
It was a government inside-job conspiracy created by obambidenpelosireidnapalitanoemmanuel.
To make us behave. To threaten us.
See how silly that all sounds, 8 and a half years after 9/11?
See how calm IMPOTUS was, never flinching, never stopping his golf game, or was he reading to the girls?
See how silly that sounds, 8 and a half years after 9/11?
See how little, if anything, has changed in 8 and a half years since 9/11? Until Americans once again wake up to the fact that we are at War, yes, mr obama, there IS indeed a War going on, we will continually be under attack. Unfortunately, 8 and a half years later, it IS from within.
Posted by: Patricia Conlon | January 2, 2010, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Yet another well thought out but empty speech from the “comedian in chief” very sad that those on the front lines have to suffer for this mans incompetence. You have brought transperancy Barry, the only problem is it’s you that are transperant and America is starting to see the real you! You certainly can talk the talk you but sure haven’t started walking it yet.
Posted by: formerdem | January 2, 2010, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
So obama knew about the underwear technique in October and a possible attack on Christmas Day but did nothing about it. Incompentence.
Posted by: Jenny | Jan 2, 2010 5:34:05 PM
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O.K. you really aren’t aware that Bush shelved a big intel report, as well as ignored a memo that planes were at risk, correct?
Posted by: secondlook | January 2, 2010, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Cheney told Politico, “We are at war, and when President Obama pretends we aren’t, it makes us less safe.”
Since when has Obama pretended we’re not at war?!?! He has QUADRUPLED our troops commitment to Afghanistan (where Bin Laden may actually be). And less than two weeks before the underwear bomber attack Obama ordered cruise missile attacks on who? Al Quadea in Yemen. Did Cheney miss the news stories,”The Yemen attacks by the U.S. military represent a major escalation of the Obama administration’s campaign against al Qaeda.” ABCnews, Dec 18th.
Sounds to me like the Republicans and Cheney are using the Big Lie tactic when they say “President Obama pretends we aren’t” at war. The question is who is dumb enough to believe them at this point?
Posted by: jhw539 | January 2, 2010, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Until Americans once again wake up to the fact that we are at War, yes, mr obama, there IS indeed a War going on, we will continually be under attack
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Duh, like nobody knows there have been terrorist attacks on America . .. or like nobody knows we’re at war in Afghanistan against al Qaeda and the Taliban, or that we’re drone bombing Pakistan . . . or employing strategic strikes against al Qaeda in Yemen . .. or any of that stuff . . .
Posted by: tierra | January 2, 2010, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Posted by: progressive mama | Jan 2, 2010 5:33:18 PM
Shortened version: Put the country at HUGE security risk, spend, get ready for those Cap & Tax! spend, but not all of it, because we are saving 2/3′s of this pork laden (Did you know we needed to stimulate the Porn Industry?)monstrosity for election year. Did he claim that HE won the war in Iraq? Was his annoucement his accomplishment? Stem Cell I will give him. I agree! Omnibus? Spend and Pork continues.
GM & Crysler – spend and takeover. Power. Give the normal shareholder cents on the dollar while giving union full shares. They should have re-structured on their own. We just had to give MORE money to prop them up.
Important speech? You mean the apology tour when he told people America is an arrogant nation.
You left out the Defense budget he just signed. 4.6 billion in Pork. In more than one of his (seems like daily) speeches, he stated if there were earmarks, he would veto the bill.
You left out healthcare also. Another Pork filled bribe laden bill that does nothing to curb costs of healthcare. And he WILL sign anything that comes to his desk. Not because it is right, but because then he wins.
You call this list accomplishments, I call it disastrous to the american people and our economy.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | January 2, 2010, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Posted by: wheresmymoney | Jan 2, 2010 6:06:21 PM
Progressive mama I admire your attempts to provide the right wingers with a quick glimpse into what is being accomplished – after the completely collapsed country and economy left by the last administration.
I expect no converts amongst those parroting the right wing blogs, but fortunately they do not represent the mainstream of america.
Posted by: tierra | January 2, 2010, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
You left out the Defense budget he just signed. 4.6 billion in Pork. In more than one of his (seems like daily) speeches, he stated if there were earmarks, he would veto the bill.
wheresmymoney | Jan 2, 2010 6:06:21 PM
What is the citation or actual quote?
Obama NEVER stated he would veto the defense bill if it included earmarks. Every word Obama says is public record. Go ahead and provide the ACTUAL QUOTE
Posted by: jhw539 | January 2, 2010, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
I guess shame at bearing false witness just isn’t a Republican value anymore.
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If the post of this blog is any indication, more like pride at bearing false witness.
Posted by: tierra | January 2, 2010, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
“Sounds to me like the Republicans and Cheney are using the Big Lie tactic when they say”
Might be but what most of us don’t like is how, when a man clearly trying to kill many, is given a lawyer, the best of care and will undoubtedly tie up the courts for years to come as will all the gitmo guys. These guys should be considered enemy agents and dealt with in a military setting.
Posted by: david | January 2, 2010, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Of course, being totally unreasonable may not be a vital concern to some.
Posted by: progressive mama | Jan 2, 2010 5:49:50 PM
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Do you think it was reasonable for the President of the United States to call this an isolated incident 3 days and (I would hope) many briefings later? Would you call it reasonable 3 days after the event that the Obama administration called BS on this being caused by al Quada? Do you think it was reasonable for Napolitano and Gibbs to say the system worked?
Posted by: wheresmymoney | January 2, 2010, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
“President Obama Says Suspect Tied to al Qaeda.”
And he’s the last person on Earth to figure this out. Very comforting!
Posted by: Cincinnati Rick | January 2, 2010, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Might be but what most of us don’t like is how, when a man clearly trying to kill many, is given a lawyer, the best of care and will undoubtedly tie up the courts
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Same treatment given the ‘shoe bomber’ by the Bush/Cheney crowd.
“Reid was immediately taken into custody after the incident. Three days later he was charged in U.S. federal court at Boston, Massachusetts in a criminal complaint with “interfering with the performance of duties of flight crew members by assault or intimidation”.
Were Bush and Cheney not ‘at war’ either? Then why are they now hating on Obama? Because it’s the only tactic the Republicans have.
Posted by: tierra | January 2, 2010, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Obama NEVER stated he would veto the defense bill if it included earmarks. Every word Obama says is public record. Go ahead and provide the ACTUAL QUOTE if you are not just making up lies. Doesn’t credibility mean anything anymore? I guess shame at bearing false witness just isn’t a Republican value anymore.
Posted by: jhw539 | Jan 2, 2010 6:16:06 PM
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Try google, it really works!
President Obama pledged in August to cut all pork barrel projects from defense spending, threatening to veto any swollen bills that came across his desk — a pledge shattered by nearly 2,000 pet projects that have made their way into the defense budget.
“If a project doesn’t support our troops, we will not fund it,” he said to a meeting of the Veterans of Foreign Wars in Phoenix. “If a system doesn’t perform, we will terminate it. And if Congress sends me a defense bill loaded with that kind of pork, I will veto it. ”
Just last week, Obama broke his promise as he signed into law the 2010 Defense Appropriations Bill — a $636 billion behemoth loaded with $4.2 billion of pork.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | January 2, 2010, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Were Bush and Cheney not ‘at war’ either? Then why are they now hating on Obama? Because it’s the only tactic the Republicans have.
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Tierra, Again, not all Republicans think the same thing, share the exact same opinions, or even like each other.
I didn’t like the fact the Reid wasn’t shuffled off to Gitmo. And that is exactly where this cretin needs to go as well.
Terrorists are terrorist. I didn’t care what religion they claim, or what party is in power when any of them try to kill Americans.
Posted by: malcat | January 2, 2010, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
As I watched the evening news I could not help but think that if BUSH & CHENEY had not invaded Iraq for Bush’s ego and Bush & Cheney’s oil buddies we could have done a better job of pursuing the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
But I have no doubt the GOP will lie to the American public and blame the Democrats for everything, as usual.
Posted by: abby | January 2, 2010, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
So obama knew about the underwear technique in October and a possible attack on Christmas Day but did nothing about it. Incompentence.
Posted by: Jenny | Jan 2, 2010 5:34:05 PM
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O.K. you really aren’t aware that Bush shelved a big intel report, as well as ignored a memo that planes were at risk, correct?
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So, 2 wrongs make a right?
Posted by: secondlook | Jan
Posted by: TheEnforcer | January 2, 2010, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Were Bush and Cheney not ‘at war’ either? Then why are they now hating on Obama? Because it’s the only tactic the Republicans have.
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Tierra, Again, not all Republicans think the same thing, share the exact same opinions, or even like each other.
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Perhaps so malcat, but I’m talking about the hypocrisy from the Bush/Cheney and the Republican crowd . .. and the hating on Obama when he’s doing nothing they didn’t do already.
Posted by: tierra | January 2, 2010, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Posted by: malcat | Jan 2, 2010 6:41:42 PM*************
Well said Malcat.
Progressive Mama, even though I may not agree with you, I always enjoy reading your posts. I also disagreed with many things in the Bush era (both sides still have to claim some responsibility because there was no supermajority), so it is always nice to read different viewpoints. When they are made in a non-combative tone.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | January 2, 2010, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
I’d also point out that we don’t know what fruit Obama’s diplomatic efforts with Russia will bear, or what his efforts in Copenhagen will lead to, since he does focus on the long term, imho.
I like his understated, more spine-steeled chess player than overly-macho-paper tiger approach.
Posted by: progressive mama |
Yes we don’t know what it will yield because it has yielded nothing. You did not mention one single foreign policy success in your list of embarrassingly light “accomplishments”. Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, China, Russia, Germany, England, France, Israel? No successes there. I guess we are happy he backed down on NAFTA.
Spending money at historical (hysterical?) levels is not an accomplishment.
Further, Gitmo is still open and may last through his first term.
Environment? Nada.
Immigration? Nada.
Jobs? Still losing them.
Healthcare? He bedded Big Pharma and Big Health Insurance. Nuptials are pending.
Energy policy? Mine, baby, mine.
The single biggest issue of our day, financial reform? Nada. Instead, Goldman Sachs has opened a branch in the West Wing.
Transparency? Banning lobbyists? Earmark reform? Don’t ask Don’t tell? Cutting waste and fraud from the budget, line by line? Post-partisan? Post-racial?
2000-2008 was bad. It has not gotten any better.
Oh, you claimed tax cuts. Give me a break. The party that actually fails to renew the AMT waiver might as well put their Washington homes up for sale.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | January 2, 2010, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Yes we don’t know what it will yield because it has yielded nothing. You did not mention one single foreign policy success in your list of embarrassingly light “accomplishments”.
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We know what the previous (Republican) president was able to accomplish in his first year – a month long vacation in Texas followed by a return to Washington in September to get caught totally off guard by 9/11.
Perhaps your expectations are too high Foghorn.
Posted by: tierra | January 2, 2010, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
We know what the previous (Republican) president was able to accomplish in his first year – a month long vacation in Texas followed by a return to Washington in September to get caught totally off guard by 9/11.
Perhaps your expectations are too high Foghorn.
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Tierra, I refer you to the 9/11 Commission Report. The Clinton administration had knowledge of the plot along with the name of at least one attacker long before leaving office. But all they did before leaving office was prepare a report.
You state that you are complaining agaisnt Republican hypocrisy. Have you ever posted a complaint against the Clinton administration?
Posted by: malcat | January 2, 2010, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
We know what the previous (Republican) president was able to accomplish in his first year – *********tierra
Perhaps so malcat, but I’m talking about the hypocrisy from the Bush/Cheney and the Republican crowd . .. and the hating on Obama when he’s doing nothing they didn’t do already. ******tierra
So, tierra, is you only defense “they did it first?” Does that make it acceptable?
Posted by: wheresmymoney | January 2, 2010, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Oh boy. I should’ve known that my long posts might get a lot of responses. Sorry folks– it’s date night with the dear husband so I don’t have time to reply– unfortunately, because my head is spinning with responses.
I’m sure it goes without saying that I disagree with a few of the comments in response. Till another time, here’s Andrew Sullivan with a bit more on Obama’s accomplishments (post is called Meep, Meep at Daily Dish)–
“My own view is that 2009 has been an extraordinarily successful year for Obama. Since this is currently a minority view and will prompt a chorus of “In The Tank!”, allow me to explain.
The substantive record is clear enough. Torture is ended, if Gitmo remains enormously difficult to close and rendition extremely hard to police. The unitary executive, claiming vast, dictatorial powers over American citizens, has been unwound. The legal inquiries that may well convict former Bush officials for war crimes are underway, and the trial of KSM will reveal the lawless sadism of the Cheney regime that did so much to sabotage our war on Jihadism. Military force against al Qaeda in Pakistan has been ratcheted up considerably, even at a civilian cost that remains morally troubling. The US has given notice that it intends to leave Afghanistan with a bang – a big surge, a shift in tactics, and a heavy batch of new troops. Iraq remains dodgy in the extreme, but at least March elections have been finally nailed down.
Domestically, the new president has rescued the banks in a bail-out that has come in at $200 billion under budget; the economy has shifted from a tailspin to stablilization and some prospect of job growth next year; the Dow is at 10,500 a level no one would have predicted this time last year. A stimulus package has helped undergird infrastructure and probably did more to advance non-carbon energy than anything that might have emerged from Copenhagen. Universal health insurance (with promised deficit reduction!) is imminent – a goal sought by Democrats (and Nixon) for decades, impossible under the centrist Clinton, but won finally by a black liberal president. More progress has been made in unraveling the war on drugs this past year than in living memory”
.. I don’t always agree with Andrew (and yes Palin fans, I thought he went way nutty when it came to Palin) but I tend to agree with him on much of this with a few tweaks.
Posted by: progressive mama | January 2, 2010, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
So, tierra, is you only defense “they did it first?”
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It’s not a defense – it’s an attack. It’s an attack on the hypocrisy of the right wing and the Republicans so commonly displayed here on this blog.
The right wing attacks Obama for doing things they did . ..it’s called hypocrisy.
Posted by: tierra | January 2, 2010, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
The right wing attacks Obama for doing things they did . ..it’s called hypocrisy.
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tierra- do you criticize Obama for the same things you criticized Bush? Or did you not criticize Bush?
Posted by: MayBee | January 2, 2010, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Posted by: progressive mama | Jan 2, 2010 7:17:09 PM********
Have a great evening mama. I don’t agree with your last post either. :) You can get any spin you want on the internet, but once again accomplishments can also be viewed as disasters. To date, I see no concrete accomplishments. Time will tell.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | January 2, 2010, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
tierra- do you criticize Obama for the same things you criticized Bush?
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You mean like for attacking a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 and no weapons of mass destruction – and killing tens of thousands of people and maiming tens of thousands more?
No I don’t critisize Obama for that.
Posted by: tierra | January 2, 2010, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Same treatment given the ‘shoe bomber’ by the Bush/Cheney crowd.
“Reid was immediately taken into custody after the incident. Three days later he was charged in U.S. federal court at Boston, Massachusetts in a criminal complaint with “interfering with the performance of duties of flight crew members by assault or intimidation”.
And Bush/Cheny was wrong to do that. All of them should be sent to Gitmo and held till the war is over. And by over I mean a signed surrender document from the radicals.
Posted by: Goodmongo | January 2, 2010, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Did the detention facility even exist yet at GITMO when Richard Reid the shoe bomber was unsuccessful in his attempt?
Posted by: Nebuchadnezzar | January 2, 2010, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
tierra….So which end of the fishing pole are you on??????????????
Posted by: Parallex View | January 2, 2010, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
Perhaps your expectations are too high Foghorn.
Posted by: tierra
I expect that gov’t will screw it up. I don’t care whether it is R or D.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | January 2, 2010, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
It is time to end this nonsense comparison of Richard Reid to the Northwest bomber.Reid attempted to blow up a plane in December,2001-little more than 3 months after 9/11.Policies for terrorist detention were still fluid-it was incidents like the Reid attempt that led the Bush administration to re-evaluate how to detain and debrief terrorists.The DHS didn’t even exist at the time.In addition,the Reid attempt was a unique and new attempt to bring down a plane- a method never previously attempted.Actions were taken to prevent a repeat- thus, we have been taking our shoes off since.I don’t recall Reid’s father informing the American embassy that his son was a terrorist.I don’t recall that chatter was present saying that “the Briton” was going to bring down a plane.I don’t recall intellegence knowing Reid’s name before his attempt.I don’t recall our intellegence services being warned about a Christmas attempt to bring down a plane at the time of the Reid attempt.Lastly, I don’t recall having a similar event happening eight years before the Reid attempt to give warning to the Bush administration.Obama and his boys were asleep at the wheel on this one-they don’t have an excuse for being unprepared.
Posted by: Nephron | January 2, 2010, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
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Obama is just way too shallow with his posturing. He has as much depth of character as a puddle.
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Posted by: N Waff | January 2, 2010, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
“Obama and his boys were asleep at the wheel on this one-they don’t have an excuse for being unprepared”
None of Obama’s chronic detractors has yet been able to offer a shred of evidence that security under Obama is any less stringent than it was under Bush–if he got on the plane now, he could have gotten on the plane then. There has been no downgrade of any kind. In fact security is so tight now that only the very crudest devices have any chance of making it through. If the databases have problems they should be improved but no system is going to 100% effective ever. If somebody manages to rob your home even though you have an extensive security system would I be justified in scoffing that you were asleep at the wheel? It’s a ridiculous metaphor.
Posted by: Skip | January 2, 2010, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Brennan was briefed on the underwear technique in OCTOBER???!!!
Posted by: Nephron | January 2, 2010, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Just to clarify…
Richard Reid’s attempted bombing of AA Flight 63 (Paris to Miami) occurred on Dec 22, 2001. On Jan 11, 2002, the first group of 20 detainees arrived at Guantanamo Bay’s Camp X-Ray.
Posted by: James Danley | January 2, 2010, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
The TSA and DHS failed. Both agencies were the creation of the Cheney Administration. Maybe they should stop handing out Visas to terrorists, instead of spending their resources checking shoes.
Posted by: PauJacob | January 2, 2010, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Skip, did you read the post? When did Bush ever get a warning from a terrorist’s father?You have no proof that this episode would have happened under Bush. You have the history of no successful attacks from 2003 until the advent of the Obama administration as evidence that it never would have happened under Bush.
Posted by: Nephron | January 2, 2010, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
PauJacob,the TSA and DHS worked under the Bush administration-that’s why we had no successful attacks after 2003. Obama didn’t even care enough about TSA to nominate a director for the first 8 months of his Presidency.Actions speak louder than words.As for DHS-do you really think that the current head has any idea of how to manage homeland security?I shudder to think what moronic statements she will make next.
Posted by: Nephron | January 2, 2010, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Unfortunately it’s one of those fundamental limitations that nobody ever really knows how strong something is until it breaks. No complex security system will ever be 100% effective ever. You are quite predictably trying to allege culpability for mere error.
Posted by: Skip | January 2, 2010, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
“As for DHS-do you really think that the current head has any idea of how to manage homeland security?”
The only real criticism that can be made is she’s weak in the PR dept. Her attempt was honest. She didn’t want to panic people planning to fly for the holidays when overall the system was solid.
Posted by: Skip | January 2, 2010, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
“No complex security system willbe 100% effective ever”-except after 2003 under George Bush IT WAS.
Posted by: Nephron | January 2, 2010, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Links to al Qaeda – well, yes, they claimed responsiblity long before today. Where has Obama been?
Posted by: Bill | January 2, 2010, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
Wonder why the White House adds audio enhancement to Mr. Obama’s public pronouncements.
Wonder why the networks accept audio enhancement in network feeds.
It wouldn’t be that hard to reverse the enhancements and present the Presidents voice raw, as spoken.
Wonder why the don’t do that….
Posted by: tj | January 2, 2010, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Nephron you’re completely disregarding uncertainty of course but I suspect you know that. Say I find a goalie in the NHL that hasn’t allowed a goal for an inordinate length of time, say 5 games. You can say he was 100% effective at stopping shots for that period of time, but what odds would you give me on a $1000 bet that he can do it for 5 more games? What about if you knew that the opposing teams weren’t very good and didn’t get many shots on him for those 5 games? I think there were few attempts during the Bush administration because violent radicals could join the insurgents in Iraq and kill Americans over there. Now that the war in Iraq may [thank God] be winding down I think it’s quite possible terrorist activities will increase elsewhere unfortunately. So I have no criticism of the system Bush put in place for it’s effectiveness but I also have little idea how hard it was tested.
Posted by: Skip | January 2, 2010, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
WOW!!! Seems like many jump to conclusions quite quickly and then just attack, attack. ALERT- better to wait for results of investigation findings a little – proceed cautiously. Aiport security was immediately increaed. US security system immediately put on alert.
ALERT – 911 happened many years ago and was worst disaster US has had in long time. Why weren’t cross agency communication with each other rules established then??? Finding out rules are too loose now, is result of what didn’t happen in past. Argue as you will – rules quite poor. System is not fullly interfaced well for all section access of information. Not programmed to immediately pull up all available information on certain person in the full system for placement of full alerts.
I am Republican, but I will sure be first to blame Bush for not implementing, correcting this huge problem. No good computerized system can work if no automatic interfaced communication with other sections of US security system on a person. This should have been a perfected system – had since 2001 to do this. I hate to blame my party, but facts speak truth – had 7 years to get this done. We live in modern computer and technology system age. And I always try to be fair when I evaluate issues, not be blinded by partisan politics.
I am a college educated medical professional and work for a Health Care Group of doctors with fully computerized medical system. Each person who works for group, xray, lab, cat-scan, ER, hospital- all sections & all people employed, ECG, EEG, pharmacy, alert systems,etc, must communicate online in patient department documentation to provide excellent health care for patients. System is excellent.
No excuse US Security system was not put in place right after 2001. Updated as neeed. Our complete state of the art medical computerized system has been in place for about five years. And is updated/expanded all the time- almost monthly. Initially fragmented system started in 1998.
As a Republican I see President Obama should take the least blame . He has only been in office only one year. He wlked into a prior existing and established computerized system. My evaluation of him will be based on what he does to correct this computerized system now. And the departmental change, and communications requiremnt that are needed. And the start of keeping system updated/changed with new technology. Need good technical programmers to change and update. And personnel for continual evaluation of needed system changes, corrections, updates, etc. My medical systme has these people in attempts to provide excellent patient care. US National Security deserves nothing less.
Posted by: Sharon | January 2, 2010, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
Just some of the terrorist attacks that happened under Bush’s watch (in addition to the US 9/11):
2001-10–16: Anthrax mailings in US. 2002-07-04: Egyptian kills two Israelis at El Al ticket counter at the Los Angles International Airport. 2002 October: Beltway Sniper 2006- 03-6: Man drives jeep through crowd at university.
2006-08-30: Man terrorizes San Francisco with SUV, kills one.
2006-09-12: Gunmen attack US Embassy in Syria
This doesn’t count terror groups like Operation Rescue and Army of God however.
Also the guy who shot up the Unitarian Church, the VA tech thing, and so on.
Before you start complaining that these violent incidents aren’t terrorism, think about how you define terrorism and see if you can come up with a definition that doesn’t serve as an indictment of US actions around the world.
Posted by: Flash Override | January 2, 2010, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
I am Republican, but I will sure be first to blame Bush for not implementing, correcting this huge problem.
Posted by: Sharon | Jan 2, 2010 10:51:03 PM
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Just out of curiosity, why are you a republican. What do you agree with the Republicans on?
Posted by: tj | January 2, 2010, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Well tj, it sounds like Sharon doesn’t agree with the Republicans when they voted against more than $4 billion for “screening operations,” including $1.1 billion in funding for explosives detection systems, including $778 million for buying and installing the systems.
Posted by: Flash Override | January 2, 2010, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
“Man terrorizes San Francisco with SUV,kills one” -what the heck are you talking about?Is road rage terrorism?Are serial killers terrorists?”Gunman attack US Embassy in Syria”-the last time I looked Syria was not part of the U.S.homeland.Your stretch to try to excuse the Obama administation’s security failures is ludicrious.
Posted by: Nephron | January 2, 2010, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
69 percent of N.R.A. members support closing the notorious gun-show loophole that invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements.
Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm.
69 percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies.
Where does the Republican Party stand?
Posted by: Flash Override | January 2, 2010, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Well tj, it sounds like Sharon doesn’t agree with the Republicans when they voted against more than $4 billion for “screening operations,” including $1.1 billion in funding for explosives detection systems, including $778 million for buying and installing the systems.
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Sharon’s got a pretty good point . ..
“ALERT – 911 happened many years ago and was worst disaster US has had in long time. Why weren’t cross agency communication with each other rules established then??? Finding out rules are too loose now, is result of what didn’t happen in past. Argue as you will – rules quite poor. System is not fullly interfaced well for all section access of information. Not programmed to immediately pull up all available information on certain person in the full system for placement of full alerts.
“I am Republican, but I will sure be first to blame Bush for not implementing, correcting this huge problem. No good computerized system can work if no automatic interfaced communication with other sections of US security system on a person. This should have been a perfected system – had since 2001 to do this. I hate to blame my party, but facts speak truth – had 7 years to get this done. We live in modern computer and technology system age. And I always try to be fair when I evaluate issues, not be blinded by partisan politics.”
Posted by: tierra | January 2, 2010, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Nephron why don’t you google “extraterritorial jurisdiction” and see what you come up with.
Posted by: Flash Override | January 2, 2010, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Skip,you just made the best rationale for the war in Iraq that I have seen.”Violent radicals could join the insurgents in Iraq…now that the war in Iraq may be winding down… terrorist activities will increase elsewhere”.Thousands of Al Qaeda terrorists went to Iraq,where they were destroyed.That war,although costly,kept the war on terror off our shores.That,and George Bush’s policies kept us from getting attacked successfully again after 2003.And they were 100% successful.
Posted by: Nephron | January 2, 2010, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
“Your stretch to try to excuse the Obama administation’s security failures is ludicrious.”
Nobody is trying to excuse any failures. We just don’t think the failures were the result of any high-level negligence on the part of Obama. If you’re so upset I suppose while Obama is in office you won’t be flying much. Suit yourself. But if you decide to drive instead you’ll only increase your chances of being killed by about 1000 times.
Posted by: Skip | January 2, 2010, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
“Thousands of Al Qaeda terrorists went to Iraq,where they were destroyed.That war,although costly,kept the war on terror off our shores”
It’s a bottomless pit Nephron. You can’t ask American families to sacrifice their loved ones as sitting ducks in a foreign land indefinitely no matter how much you like the enemy body count. I’m sure Al Qaeda will not be attempting any landing in force here anytime soon.
Posted by: Skip | January 3, 2010, 12:07 am 12:07 am
Sorry,Skip but we’ve won in Iraq and the majority of Americans believe that.Harry Reid was wrong about that.Iraq is the only true multi-party democracy in the Arab World(Lebanon is now a Syrian possesion).How many American soldiers were killed in Iraq last month?You seem to be describing Afghanistan when you mention bottomless pits and sitting ducks.How many Al Qaeda are left in Afghanistan-enough to justify the Obama-ordered sacrifice of the American families you mention?What about the senseless waste of CIA officers this week-THEY were sitting ducks.
Posted by: Nephron | January 3, 2010, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Iraq brutally enlightened us that invading and occupying countries in not a cost effective way of fighting Al Qaeda in either blood or treasure. They move around; They replace all their losses. And while I’d love to believe we won in Iraq–don’t count your chickens. I’m not sure I’d give that government a week if we were to just completely pull out.
Posted by: Skip | January 3, 2010, 12:39 am 12:39 am
And while I’d love to believe we won in Iraq–don’t count your chickens. I’m not sure I’d give that government a week if we were to just completely pull out.
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Iraq is a country ready to explode with inter-tribal warfare – the country has been completely destabilized since the American attack.
Hundreds of thousands have been killed and maimed. The infrastructure of the country was destroyed. Mass killings and violence continue on a weekly basis.
If that is your idea of a victory for democracy and the people of Iraq, you live in an academic world, not reality.
Posted by: tierra | January 3, 2010, 1:06 am 1:06 am
The U.S. is fighting two wars now because some government bureaucrats granted visas to a group of terrorists that trained in the U.S. to fly airlines into buildings using box cutters.
Posted by: PauJacob | January 3, 2010, 1:35 am 1:35 am
PauJacob – You said “The U.S. is fighting two wars now because some government bureaucrats granted visas to a group of terrorists that trained in the U.S. to fly airlines into buildings using box cutters.”
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And THAT Administration seems to have dodged its responsibility for facilitating that attack. Aren’t the Dems an INCREDIBLE bunch???
Posted by: Laughin__ALL_The_Way | January 3, 2010, 2:32 am 2:32 am
Has Real Clear removed the original Obama message about finally realizing that this terrorist was linked to Al Qaeda?
There were a lot of negative comments about Obama’s very late response.
Looks like they kept the same title and replaced it with a Tapper story with the same title.
Interesting.
Posted by: Letscheck | January 3, 2010, 2:49 am 2:49 am
Letscheck – Yeah, I noticed. The “All Barrack Channel” has been slipping of late. I guess they’re finally realizing that they’re “playing” to a smaller and smaller group of Kool-aid drunk idiots, while Fox is playing to the much larger majority.
I will say, though, this ABCNews blog works MUCH better than Fox’s.
Posted by: Laughin__ALL_The_Way | January 3, 2010, 3:00 am 3:00 am
In the article, it states “Those failures will not be tolerated,” a senior administration official said.
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I had to stop for a minute and think…
Was he referring to:
1) the failure of this Administration to act on actionable information received, or
2) the failure of the bomber to actually set off the bomb?
With this Administration, their actions and inactions get more and more confusing every day.
Posted by: Laughin__ALL_The_Way | January 3, 2010, 3:05 am 3:05 am
Nephron Said: “Sorry,Skip but we’ve won in Iraq ….. How many American soldiers were killed in Iraq last month?”
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LOL …….. let’s see, when I go to Google News and look up “Iraq bombings” I find this:
October 15, 2009 – “Iraq Bombing kills 33 in Shi’ite areas”
October 25, 2009 – “Iraq Bomb Blast Kills at Least 130″
December 30, 2009 – “Iraq Suicide Bombing Kills 30, Wounds 100″
…… and these are just samples of the weekly suicide bombings ocurring in Iraq.
Mission accomplished in Iraq is not measured by the number of U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq, but rather, how well we’re able to stabilize the country so that it doesn’t become an incubator for terrorism, as we are seeing in Yemen.
Looks to me, like the country is no where close to being stabilized.
Posted by: Georgie Bushie | January 3, 2010, 3:19 am 3:19 am
Georgie Bushie – Where Bsh went wrong was not doing the same thing we did in Panama when Bush Sr. wanted to depose Manuel Noriega.
In 1989, we invaded Panama and removed him from power; he was captured, detained as a prisoner of war, and flown to the U.S.
Noriega was tried and convicted on 8 counts of drug trafficking, racketeering, and money laundering in April 1992.
Done! Leave! Let Iraq figure out which direction they want to go. If they go the same direction, we’ll be back to take out THAT leader as well.
If we had done THAT, then the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner was absolutely correct. We changed the mission in the middle of the mission, and now here we sit.
Posted by: Laughin__ALL_The_Way | January 3, 2010, 3:26 am 3:26 am
On August 23, 2001, Israeli Mossad gave his name (Marwan Yousef al-Shehhi)to the CIA as part of a list of 19 names they say are planning an attack in the near future. Only four of the names are known for certain – Nawaf, Atta, Marwan and al-Mihdhar.
Al-Shehhi had posed as a body guard of a “Saudi Arabian royal family member” (really Mohammed Atta) while the two of them took flying lessons in Venice, Florida. They also logged hundreds of hours on a Boeing 727 flight simulator.
Posted by: tierra | January 3, 2010, 3:39 am 3:39 am
Laughin_All_The_Way:
LOL…. You’re demonstrating very little understanding of the geo-social situation in Iraq, and very little understanding of it’s relationship to Iran, nor it’s strategic importance in the middle east for the U.S.
(A) You can not compare Iraq (Islamic country) to Panama (Christian-Catholic country). Two totally different social dynamics involved.
(B) There are only 2 majority Shi’ite Muslim countries in the world: Iraq and Iran. All other Islamic countries are primarily Sunni. To leave Iraq, as easily as we did with “Catholic” Panama creates a power vacume that can easily be filled by an Iranian puppet government due to their (Iranian) religious Shi’ite influence in the region. What country is our number 1 enemy in the middle east right now?… Answer: Iran. So simply leaving Iraq, as you suggest, creates an even greater problem for us if Iran’s influence topples the current goverment and puts in a puppet Iranian government. Understand?
(C) Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the middle east, second only to Saudi Arabia. To pull out of Iraq, as easily as you suggest, jeopardizes the availability of that second largest oil reserve to the rest of the world, if Iraq’s current government falls to an Iranian imposed government.
Now is it clearer for you?
Posted by: Georgie Bushie | January 3, 2010, 3:48 am 3:48 am
Lauging_All_The_Way Said: “Yeah, I noticed. The “All Barrack Channel” has been slipping of late. I guess they’re finally realizing that they’re “playing” to a smaller and smaller group of Kool-aid drunk idiots, while Fox is playing to the much larger majority.”
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LMAO! ……… you have to laugh at people who call ABC the “All Barrack Channel”, then try to promote the right-wing “Fox News” as being superior…. yet, they’re busy reading and responding to an ABC News article/blog???? (LOL)
Pretty hypocritcal, don’t you think? Then again, what would you expect from the “right-whiner” side of the political spectrum nowadays…they’re often confused.
Posted by: Georgie Bushie | January 3, 2010, 4:06 am 4:06 am
Georgie Bushie Said: “Besides, where else can I find livid lunatics trying to twist facts to fit into their “liberal logic” at this hour? LOL!!
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LOL… There’s only one right-whiner lunatic I know of that spends his/her time on this blog at whea hours of the morning in the U.S.A. Hmmm, I wonder who that can be?
By the way, where I’m at in the world it is now 10:43 AM, Sunday morning, and we’re about ready to go to mass over here…. see yah after church… LOL.
Posted by: Georgie Bushie | January 3, 2010, 4:46 am 4:46 am
“We know that he traveled to Yemen, a country grappling with crushing poverty”
Obama just doesn’t get it, does he? There are many nations in the world that can be classified as “grappling with crushing poverty” yet not all of them host terrorist activities.
Poverty does not cause terrorism. Poverty may foster an envirornment in which terrorists may succeed. Let’s not forget that the Undi-Bomber and Osama bin Laden come from very wealthy families. For Obama to link poverty and terrorism suggests that (a.) he just doesn’t get it (a viable conclusion), or (b.) he is inserting his own re-distributionalist world-view to this issue (also viable).
Either way, it’s not comforting.
Posted by: tjp612 | January 3, 2010, 7:40 am 7:40 am
Just heard Mr. Brennan (the guy appointed to investigate the Undi-bomber lapses) on CNN. He is in full spin and cover-up mode. Seems like it was not the fault of the Obama administration after all. Who would have guessed!
Posted by: tj | January 3, 2010, 9:10 am 9:10 am
It’s hard for me to understand how Mr. Brennan can be a senior adviser to the president, and be a contractor to the government in the area in which he is an adviser. Conflict of interest?
Posted by: tj | January 3, 2010, 9:21 am 9:21 am
“It’s hard for me to understand how Mr. Brennan can be a senior adviser to the president, and be a contractor to the government in the area in which he is an adviser. Conflict of interest?”
His (Brennan’s) firm also had a hand in the design and implementation of the systems that failed to “connect the dots”.
Yes, this is a blatant conflict of interest. Do you expect anything less from this administration?
Another day, more lies, more hypocrisy, more spin.
Posted by: tjp612 | January 3, 2010, 10:03 am 10:03 am
Pretty amazing that our president, while vacationing in Hawaii, was so quickly able to “connect the dots” between the underwear bomber, Al Qaeda, and Yemen when the largest and best-funded intelligence apparatus in the world could not until AFTER the alleged attempt?
Posted by: h5mind | January 3, 2010, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Georgie Bushie ….you know George Bush is no longer president. If you would like to go back to terrorist attacks, lets focus on attacks on American soil, staring in 1993, World trade center, Kenya, Khobar Towers, USS Cole, then the big one in 2001, world trade center again, that all happened or was planed under Clinton, the Pesident dwarf Clinton as far as being WEAK
Posted by: liberty1984 | January 3, 2010, 10:29 am 10:29 am
“Obama claims bomber linked to Al Qaeda…”
Wow, Captain Obvious. What was your clue for this amazing deduction? His Islamic name? His self proclaimation that he was Al Qaeda? His father calling the CIA and telling them he was being influenced by a “radical islamic” group? What a joke….
Posted by: PatrickHenryII | January 3, 2010, 10:35 am 10:35 am
Let’s get serious, Obama is no security expert (as has been no president since Eisenhower). A president is only as good as his advisers, and Obama has not done well in selecting advisers. At best he must recognize his “community organizer” limitations and relegate himself to choosing from a multiple choice offer.
Posted by: Ed Taylor | January 3, 2010, 10:45 am 10:45 am
As Obama play more golf in one year than Bush played in 8 year, 7,000,000 people are out of work, 5,000,000 of them lost their jobs during Obama, home foreclosures at a record high, 12.4 trillion in the hole, headed for 19 trillion. states going bankrupt, All Liberal run states the worst and yet he plays record amounts of golf
Posted by: liberty1984 | January 3, 2010, 10:50 am 10:50 am
“A president is only as good as his advisers, and Obama has not done well in selecting advisers.”
Remember last year when the MSM was spinning Obama’s lack of experience into “he’s doing a great job surrounding himself with experienced and respected advisors”?
Only the Obamanics and the uninformed fell for that one…
Posted by: tjp612 | January 3, 2010, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Just wish our President would stop trying to make nice with the world and remember which country’s citizens he is responsible for. I’m so sick of his constant apologies, his excuses, and his pandering to the lowest common denominator. That all may work in the extreme Leftist world he came from, but it does not do the country any good.
Posted by: Bill | January 3, 2010, 11:01 am 11:01 am
OMG
Hoekstra[?] just got totally nailed on This Week fear-mongering the attack for campaign contributions in Michigan in typical Republican fashion. He wiggled like the little snake he is under a boot, it was terribly entertaining.
Posted by: Skip | January 3, 2010, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Definitely OJT! I guess ‘change’ is kaput!
Posted by: LongT | January 3, 2010, 11:27 am 11:27 am
“Hoekstra[?] just got totally nailed on This Week fear-mongering the attack for campaign contributions in Michigan in typical Republican fashion.”
More feigned outrage from the Left… Sounds similar to a John Kerry e-mail distributed in early December:
> Kerry wrote in an e-mail to Democratic donors that they had to “match the passion and activism of these new forces in the Republican Party” lest they lose their 60-vote supermajority in 2010.
“Think GOP obstruction is bad now?” asked Kerry. “Just imagine what Washington would look like if a bunch of new senators — inspired by Sarah Palin and the tea party crowd — took over.” <
Posted by: tjp612 | January 3, 2010, 11:38 am 11:38 am
“More feigned outrage from the Left… Sounds similar to a John Kerry e-mail distributed in early December”
Because fear-mongering terrorism is the same as fear-mongering Sarah Palin and the tea parties? Maybe you’re right: Sarah Palin may scare some Americans as much as terrorists do.
Posted by: Skip | January 3, 2010, 11:58 am 11:58 am
“Because fear-mongering terrorism is the same as fear-mongering”
I don’t have time to enumerate all of the instances Obama used (economic) fear mongering in order to push the “stimulus” package, government takeover of significant sectors of several industries, and his re-distributionalist agenda in general.
Again, feigned outrage from the Left.
Posted by: tjp612 | January 3, 2010, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
So why did it take the idiot president until January 2nd to figure out al Qaeda was involved, when 5 days earlier, al Qaeda had already claimed involvement.
Posted by: Mike | January 3, 2010, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
When this guy parties he parties. Closes beaches, private digs, golf. plays some hoops with an old friend. Oh wait, I need to make another speech? No problem. Love that.
Posted by: LongT | January 3, 2010, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
“When this guy parties he parties. Closes beaches, private digs, golf. plays some hoops with an old friend”
Posted by: LongT
So tjp; can I claim feigned outrage in response in this case since Bush lounged around his ranch so much when he was supposedly in office, or are we still not allowed to mention Bush anymore?
Posted by: Skip | January 3, 2010, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Why don’t the leaders of Saudi Arabia or Yemen make a call for all peaceful Muslims to “fight” back against the violent sect of their religion? Why don’t they try to bring back their lost and brainwashed sons and daughters and let them know there is another way….? Muslims should go on terrorists blogs and start educating these violent murderers and try to bring them back.
Posted by: Jenny | January 3, 2010, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
“So tjp; can I claim feigned outrage in response in this case since Bush lounged around his ranch so much when he was supposedly in office, or are we still not allowed to mention Bush anymore?”
Your call, however, when you do mention Bush remember the following:
Average unemployment under Bush: 5%
Average unemployment under Obama: 9%+
And…Obama has played more rounds of golf in <1 year than Bush played in 8 years (Bush stopped playing golf after escalation of war in Iraq.
So please, feel free to bring it up. There is an easily perceived difference between "lounging around" in Texas vs. Hawaii. Optics do matter…
Lastly, the consensus across Americans was that Bush would not hesitate to take measures to prevent/defend terrorists attacks (in fact, many on the Left felt he was a bit heavy-handed). Americans do not feel same level of commitment from Obama (apology tours, engaging enemies while distancing allies, avoiding use of term "terrorism", calling Undi-Bomber a "lone wolf", etc.
Fire away, Champ.
Posted by: tjp612 | January 3, 2010, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
I turn him off now. It’s all scriped. It always was.
Posted by: LongT | January 3, 2010, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
“Bush would not hesitate to take measures to prevent/defend terrorists attacks (in fact, many on the Left felt he was a bit heavy-handed)”
Considering many right-wingers mistakenly believe invading Iraq was somehow battling terrorism that could stand as the understatement of the century.
Posted by: Skip | January 3, 2010, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
“Considering many right-wingers mistakenly believe invading Iraq was somehow battling terrorism that could stand as the understatement of the century.”
You are diverting, Skip…but nice try given you are trying to defend Obama, which is a more difficult task every day he spends in office…
Posted by: tjp612 | January 3, 2010, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Average unemployment under Bush: 5%
Average unemployment under Obama: 9%+
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The ‘arguments’ put forward by Republicans and the right are so phony who bothers to listen to them anymore?
Like a bunch of zombies they crawl around trying to spread their slime.
When the Bush administration left office the unemployment rate was at 7.6% and skyrocketing – hundreds of thousands of jobs were being lost every month. The stock market had crashed. Major banks and financial insitutions were crashing. Foreclosures and bankruptcies were through the roof.
Oh yes, this is all the current President’s fault.
Try being authentic for a change – the Republicans and the right are an embarrassment to the country.
Posted by: tierra | January 3, 2010, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
“Try being authentic for a change – the Republicans and the right are an embarrassment to the country.”
Another copy-and-paste response with zero substance…
Could this be considered a “personal attack” or a “smear”?
Posted by: tjp612 | January 3, 2010, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Another copy-and-paste response with zero substance…
Posted by: tjp612 | Jan 3, 2010 3:59:35 PM
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You call this ‘zero substance’? Again, you undercut the value of all of your comments . .
Average unemployment under Bush: 5%
Average unemployment under Obama: 9%+
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When the Bush administration left office the unemployment rate was at 7.6% and skyrocketing – hundreds of thousands of jobs were being lost every month. The stock market had crashed. Major banks and financial insitutions were crashing. Foreclosures and bankruptcies were through the roof.
Oh yes, this is all the current President’s fault.
Try being authentic for a change – the Republicans and the right are an embarrassment to the country.
Posted by: tierra | January 3, 2010, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
“Try being authentic for a change”
How about trying to have an original post that does not involve George Bush?
Posted by: tjp612 | January 3, 2010, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Tierra,
Could you tell us what the debt level was then vs. what the debt level is now?
Posted by: Jeffry | January 4, 2010, 12:15 am 12:15 am
Tierra,
When the Republicans took control of both Houses of Congress in January 1995 the unemployment rate was 5.6%. When President Clinton left office in January 2001–with Republicans having the majority in both Houses of Congress–the unemployment rate was 4.2%.
When the Republicans relinquished control of both Houses of Congress in January 2007 the unemployment rate was 4.6%. When President Bush left office in January 2009–with the Democrats having the majority in both Houses of Congress–the unemployment rate was 7.6%.
Those are the FACTS! Wake up America! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2010!
Posted by: James Danley | January 4, 2010, 10:20 am 10:20 am