President Obama Suspending Gitmo Detainee Transfers to Yemen

12 step program, with art therapy, sports? These are guys who ride camels and play polo with the cut off head of an enemy as a ball.
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New Club Med activity?

OBAMA SHOULD CONSIDER NOT ONLY SUSPENDING GITMO DETAINEE TRASNSFERS TO YEMEN BUT ALSO CLOSING GITMO.
“the possibility of sending roughly 100 Yemeni detainees from Guantanamo Bay to the Saudi government’s rehabilitation program for jihadis, a 12-step program “that includes psychological counseling, art therapy, sports and lessons in Islam.”
ARE 100 Yemeni Terrorists deserve to be
handled by blood money from American citizens ? “NAY”

geeeeezy wheeeeeeezy
all the hub bub before obamas re-eval..
good thing he doesn’t take 4 years of mistaken war and death, to figure out he needs to change, unlike certain other recent presidents named Bush
who once they decide to jump off the cliff othing on earth or even heaven can stop them

So much for campaign promises. Maybe the real world is different that the campaign trail

Of course, it’s that incompetent Bush’s fault. Our GSCL has promised to Change. Everything worked perfectly well under his watch, according to his supporter-turned-secretary of HS. Now that he stops sending Gitmoers to Yemen, he will release ‘em in Illinois, your backyard.

Good thing the next president will have Obama to blame for all his/her failures.
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This President is trying to revamp a security system put in place by the last administration.
For that, yes – he can be held accountable.

===Posted by: jhw539 | Jan 5, 2010 4:25:12 PM===
Eight months into the Bush presidency, 9/11 happened. All Bush’s fault, according to the left. With policies in place from the Clinton administration. But still Bush’s fault.
At some point, you will have to stop blaming Bush for Obama’s incompetency. But even if you don’t, enough will to see he is a one term president.

At some point, you will have to stop blaming Bush for Obama’s incompetency. But even if you don’t, enough will to see he is a one term president.
Posted by: Axey |
That point won’t be reached in 2010.

“Eight months into the Bush presidency, 9/11 happened. All Bush’s fault, according to the left. With policies in place from the Clinton administration. But still Bush’s fault.”
Could it be the testimony that the Bush admin put terrorism on the back burner, Bush’s month long vacation in Crawford, and the Aug 6th memo that was ignored have something to do with that?
2 years later he would invade a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, was not connected to Al Queda and had little to do with terrorism beyond paying bounties. Oh and they had no WMD despite the Bush admin lying that they knew where they were.

Now that Obama has held the office of president for a year, he is no longer sounding like the cynical judgmental accuser of yesteryear.
Reality always supersedes liberal rhetoric. Oh, the wonders of on-the-job-training.

“Posted by: lfrichar | Jan 5, 2010 4:53:20 PM”
ROFLMAO!
A right wing blog by an idiot is your proof?
Did you eve read it? He undercuts his own argument a half dozen times acknowledged that the capital gains tax benefits the wealthy. he does not mention the estate tax and apparently think the child tax credits only go to the poor instead of everyone.

“Bush lowered the marginal tax rates for those with incomes over $350,000 (the top tax rate, admittedly on the rich) from 40% to 35%. He also approved the lowering of the capital gains tax from 20% to 15%…”
“the wealthy received the bulk of the savings”
Is that your supporting evidence lfrichar? A blog post that ignores the MAJOR fact that the majority of income for the rich is capital gains (some hedge fund managers actually have their eight-digit+ salaries defined entirely as capital gains)?

“Please point out any information you have on the Bush tax cuts favoring the rich. I have many to the contrary. if you are to single out one specific tax, you may have a point, but for taxes overall including capital gains, his cuts favored the poor more than the rich.”
CBS 2004 ” President Bush’s tax cuts since 2001 have shifted more of the tax burden from the nation’s rich to middle-class families, according to a study released Friday by the Congressional Budget Office.
The tax rate declined across all income levels — but more so in the top brackets, the report said.
The study found that the effective tax rate for the top 1 percent of taxpayers dropped from 33 percent in 2001 to 26.7 percent this year, a decline of 19 percent. The middle 20 percent of taxpayers saw a decline of 4 percent.”
Congressional budget Office versus right wing blogger….who is more credible.

And the CBO actually did an analysis of the impact of Bush’s trillion dollar deficit spending tax cuts in 2007. Of course, reality has a liberal bias again:
“Households in the top 1 percent of earnings, which had an average income of $1.25 million, saw their effective individual tax rates drop to 19.6 percent in 2004 from 24.2 percent in 2000. The rate cut was twice as deep as for middle-income families, and it translated to an average tax cut of almost $58,000.”

“And the CBO actually did an analysis of the impact of Bush’s trillion dollar deficit spending tax cuts in 2007″
There also a CBO report from 2004 confirming that.
“Of course, reality has a liberal bias”
Great line

“If the TSA needed their new leader so badly, why doesn’t POTUS do a recess appointment. That would be nice too.”
Yes the hold by a right wing Republican Senator who is more concerned about unionization than the security of those flying on planes does not matter at all.

Good move Sherlock. At least he is seeing one dot. Now can he connect the
rest of them ?

I hope Obama is finally listening to the people-WE DON’T WANT THE GITMO DETAINEES sent to Yemen!! We DON’T want them brought to the USA either! Leave them in Cuba. I hope he quits viewing the terrorist like criminals, they are soldiers in their world so they should be treated like War criminals and be suject to military trials. The world is seeing Obama as a weak leader and we don’t need that! Have a backbone Obama!!!

WE DON’T WANT THE GITMO DETAINEES sent to Yemen!! We DON’T want them brought to the USA either!
TXAR.55 | Jan 5, 2010 5:17:07 PM
Grow a backbone yourself – what is so scary about having the detainees locked up in a concrete box on the mainland? Do they have some sort of radioactive field? You need a moat to feel safe (Alcatraz was closed years ago you know)? It’s stupid – economically, tactically, and functionally – to have them held by the military on a base a few hundred yards from the border of a hostile country in the middle of an active hurricane region with no land route for supply or personnel travel.

===So the underwear bomber is equivalent to 9/11?===
I didn’t say that, you did in order to deflect what I actually said. It’s coming. You know it is. The blogosphere, both left and right, is atwitter with it. Obama can’t continue to blame Bush. He just can’t do it. It’s his presidency and if there were holes in the system, he should have plugged them by now.

“I didn’t say that, you did in order to deflect what I actually said. It’s coming. You know it is. The blogosphere, both left and right, is atwitter with it. Obama can’t continue to blame Bush. He just can’t do it. It’s his presidency and if there were holes in the system, he should have plugged them by now.”
So is Bush responsible for 9/11 then?
Or do 3 more months that Obama had make all the difference?
Because I agree this failed attack was on Obama’s watch and therefore his reponsibility.

===Posted by: jhw539 | Jan 5, 2010 5:24:25 PM===
What happens when they come here? And nothing else changes? They are detained indefinitely but on US soil?
Axey | Jan 5, 2010 5:29:07 PM
If they come here they will be dealt with under our well respected Constitutional government. I don’t have a problem with that, indeed my primary beef with Gitmo is that it was an unconstitutional power grab by the Executive branch (they even tried to send an American citizen arrested on American soil there before the courts finally quashed them).
Indefinite detention on US soil may be the ultimate outcome, but as the Founding Fathers intended it will have to be with the consent of more than just the President alone.

I’m interested in how the progressive liberal left reconciles this 180 degree change in policy. It was a really hot button issue with them a year ago.
LongT | Jan 5, 2010 5:32:20 PM
? What change in policy? I never once saw releasing Guantanamo bay detainees to Yemen as a hot button issue or campaign promise. Can you cite that?
“we remain committed to closing the facility, the determination has been made that right now any additional transfers to Yemen is not a good idea.”
That’s a 180 degree change in what – the years-old policy of releasing detainees to Yemen? Why would liberals have a problem with this?

And Obama and Holder have assured us they will not release KSM if he is found not guilty. Why the show trial?

“You might, but Obama and his team don’t agree with you.”
When has Obama claimed this failed attack was not his responsibility or on his watch?
What’s it like to live in perpetual fear?

So if they are not to be released Axey regardless of method of trial (military or civilian)…what are you so afraid of?

“I don’t know. Is this the new talking point? Conservatives are fearful?”
No, just you in this instance judging by your many posts on terrorism.
Though right wing fear seems to be a driving force in you guys wanting to brutalize those different than you (read minorities, gays etc)

“That is actually the fundamental basis of our Constitution, which is a highly functional governing framework not a holy book of absolutes”
Right wingers do not accept that.

I’ve been called many things in my life,but never an idiot.Are you a college graduate Ryan?Ever been in a Lab? What do you think of Goethe?Did you enjoy Chaucer-can you read it in Middle English?Can you read it in Modern English?Do you know the significance of Lapita in Oceanic history?Do you know why Barack Obama wasn’t smart enough to be Phi Beta Kappa?

Where do I sign up?
Posted by: Ryan C |
ACORN

Ryan,one can disagree with others without insults.It says more about your own intellectual limitations than almost anything else.If you were a college graduate I would think that you could come up with something less insulting if you disagree with my point of view.Of course,you voted for the man who claimed that he met his own brother “only a couple of years ago” and yet “wrote” about a meeting in Kenya with the same individual more than 10 years ago.

Did you read my post? If they are held indefinitely without trial under a law passed by Congress, accepted by the Supreme Court, and implemented by the President – that works
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How is this different than the the process that is going on at Guantanamo Bay?
There’s been a series of legal frameworks, legal rulings, and Congress passed the Military Commissions Act of 2006. Congress funds it. Congress refused to de-fund it.

“There’s been a series of legal frameworks, legal rulings, and Congress passed the Military Commissions Act of 2006. Congress funds it. Congress refused to de-fund it.”
And parts of MCA were declared unconstitutional.

Degrees of Uniqueness-is that like Degrees of Pregnancy? Where did you study English? The University of Bizarroworld?

Yeah, whether it was Bush under pressure from the Left, or Obama just because he thought that everybody loved him…releasing these meatballs back to Yemen or anywhere else for that matter wasn’t such a good idea.

Did Obama not believe that Yemen was a problem the day before the Christmas attempted terrorist act? Clearly, he needs to bone up on basic international relations. BTW, Bush didn’t want to release anyone from GITMO, but the crybaby Dems screamed about indefinite detention. Hope they’re happy that Obama has adopted Bush’s policies hook line and sinker.

Did Obama not believe that Yemen was a problem the day before the Christmas attempted terrorist act? Posted by: Sam Woods
maybe that’s why he stepped up the drone attacks, and intel sharing and assistance long before the attack., guess you missed that

TJ,how do you know that Obama stepped up the drone attacks and the intel sharing?Are you privy to confidential information on how we have been fighting the War on Terror?These operations are supposed to be confidential,as they were under the last administration.The lack of operational security in this administration is appalling.Spilling the beans is not the way to combat an enemy.This administration’s press releases and leaks gave Al Qaeda an excellent post-strike evaluation after the CIA bombing.How long do you think that the intel source that reported the bomber’s movements remained alive after the release of the information?How long did it take to dry up other sources that reported operational aspects of the attack?These are simple covert principles that this administration violates every day.

“Make no mistake, we will close Guantanamo prison, which has damaged our national security interests and become a tremendous recruiting tool for al-Qaeda,” Obama said.
“In fact, that was an explicit rationale for the formation of al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.”
OK….if Gitmo, Cuba is an al-Qaeda recruiting tool–then how will Gitmo, Illinois be any different??