Reacting to Mass. Rebellion, White House Beefs Up Outside Political Arm

Impeach this IDIOT!!!!! Nov 4th 2012 can not come fast enough!!!!!!!!

I back President Obama 100%.
This last year is only proof how messed Cheney-Bush left our country.
This all will turn around. The Presiedent is a very smart guy..let’s have a little faith and stop trying to bring him and the rest of the country further down than it already is…

Well, I’m glad to see that O’Babble is ordering a review of the Democrat Party’s operations. Shouldn’t take long for his fair haired boy to figure out that Americans are not as loony left as Bab thought we were. Immediate help can be had by immediately dismissing Eric Holder and informing us all that from now on, the war on terrorism will be taken seriously. More steps to follow.

IDIOT? What do you call the guy before him that created this big mess in the first place then? You expect to fix 8 years of diseaster in a year?

Obama is trying to “rivive” The Dems? DOA
This idiot is embarrassing himself on a daily basis.

Come on dummies…the Bush stuff is tired and old…why not play up Obamas accomplishments? Oh wait…stupid question!

Unfortunately arrogance and lying to the American people are not impeachable offenses. If they were we’d have a lot of offices to fill.

Obama has spent more money in 20 months than Bush did in 8 years. I love hearing you Obamabots explain how your messiah spending Trillions is going to save the nation. Obamabots know less about finances than the community organizer. Keep blaming Bush, all white people, black males or who ever else you blame other than yourself.

“I want my taxes paying for weapons to kill terrorists…not paying for lawyers to represent them!”…Sen. Scott Brown.
Libs…wake up and take notes!

“The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.”…Ronald Reagan
Enough said!

Great News. We couldn’t ask for anything more. Makes November easier than ever. Only 103 house seats are safe for democrats, and 19 democratic senate seats are up for grabs.

Obama just doesn’t get it. We are tired of his policies and his way of doing business. What happened to the transparency? He’s a phony and needs to go.

We now have our answer, the only thing Obama can effectively do is campaign. Guess we’re back to the hope and promise phase.

One of the reasons Scott Brown won the election is that Brown opposes illegal immigration. And Barack Obama and the Democrats support it. If the Obama administration continues that path, other Scott Browns will win.

This means lots more work for “Ellie Light.”
As a freelance writer, I think it’s a good time to launch Ellie Lite – half the calories with more hometowns than regular.

All you have to do if you need Obama’s attention is give out a piece of paper saying Nobel Peace Prize. He will break down the front door of the White House, trying to get to Helicopter One, and then onto Air Force One.
Now if your country is in the middle of a natural disaster a few miles south of the United States…….and your population is predominantly black……….you won’t be able to yank this president off of his Wii system and the White House couch.
You have to have the piece of paper homey……the Nobel Peace Prize and a million bucks for his pocket book.
It’s all about the prestige of it all.

Good idea. More phony, empty suit politicians spouting campaign rhetoric rather than actually telling us how they will govern. Too late. Hey Obama, the difference between you and Scott Brown is he is authentic. You can buy all the trucks you want. It’s not the same and we know it.

When will the president keep his promise and allow C-SPAN to broadcast the healthcare discussions? That was one of the major promises of his presidential candidacy. He promised it multiple times.

When the going gets tough, the tough give speeches and heavily controlled, union produced “town hall meetings”. Obama doesn’t realize the thrill is gone, there are no more tingles going up commentators’ legs, nor are there people fainting when he speaks. That is soooooo 2008.
Much more difficult to govern than to campaign.

Building a bridge does not necessarily make one an engineer but tell a pack of lies to a faction of Americans? Watch what we’re going to do to you liberal socialist idiots.

When is this idiotic POTUS going to get off his high horse and campaign mode? When will he realize that he’s got some real work to do. I’m telling you, he’s begun his re-election campaign and could care less about the real american agenda, the people. This community organizer has no clue.

Mr Obama is trying to avoid that fact that he has Failed by pointing out the Other guy was a failure too! I hope that we as Americans are not gullible enough buy his foolishness a second time. There is No Doubt Bush was a fool, but it worth noting that it too Bush 8 years to spend the Money Obama has spent in 1. Additionally Obama’s approval ratings have dropped in 1 year that it took Bush at least 6 to hit!
On top of that Mr Obama arrogantly insults us all with statement to the effect of., If they were better educated on the issues they would support me. Oh and the thing that annoys me every time.Those 787 Billion Green Campaign Signs that tax payer got when he promised Jobs.
You can put a turd in a pretty box Mr. Obama it is still a turd no matter how nicely you package it.

My take is that the scales have fallen from the eyes of Americans, including a substantial segment who voted for Obama. They have seen the huge disparity between his rhetoric and behavior, his attempts to force agendas down the throats of Americans (not to mention the Israelis), only to consistently issue one apology after another as the public resisted. The fact is, the Great Uniter has been instrumental in creating an America more divided than ever. I was never swayed by the lofty words (especially after 3 tax cheats were nominated in a row) and now we have more words yet. The time to “fight for Americans,” Mr. Obama, was when you were handing out billions to the banks. It is clear that the masses of the public feel shut out of input into their democracy, which is being eroded by an ideological agenda that masses of the public reject. The diverse views of Americans must be respected and heard, he is not the King, though early on he acted like one with a public that gave him every advantage. I see most of his tenure as a failure and am most worried about the issue of Islamic terror where he seems clearly more focused on polishing America’s “image” than in being draconian to protect the public. Take the Nigerian underwear bomber–he WAS an Enemy Combatant, NOT a citizen. All Islamic Terrorist are “soldiers of Islam” by their own words. Yet this would-be mass murderer was sent to a Detroit jail and given a freaking LAWYER (at taxpayers expense), at which point he shut his mouth. This is absolutely inexcusable–he should be tried by a military Tribunal, NOT a U.S. court for citizens. P.S. Iran is racing towards a nuclear bomb and Obama is racing for a half-baked health bill. How about being more concerned about the health of Americans and protecting them from Islamist radiological bombs which are sure to follow?? Where is the muscle and will in this administration??

“I want my taxes paying for weapons to kill terrorists…not paying for lawyers to represent them!”…Sen. Scott Brown.
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What a dumb line in the face of Obama’s increased troop levels in Afghanistan and increased strikes against al Qaeda in Pakistan, Yemen and Afghanistan.
Cheap shot half truths for partisan political gain.

Look, the New American Rebellion has begun because Obama has no respect for America. He believes he knows better than our founding fathers. At the same time, people are SICK AND TIRED of Republicans who VOTE FOR spending, amnesty,and gov’t programs. WE THE PEOPLE are in a good mood to throw out all the BUMS…regardless of party. Can you hear us John McCain and Kay Bailey Hutchison?

Iran is racing towards a nuclear bomb
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You seem to forget Iran developed their secret nuclear facility under the watchful eyes of the Republican president Bush.
And that North Korea tested their first nuclear weapon under the watchful eyes of the Republican president Bush.
You apply a double standard to Obama – that is because your agenda isn’t the truth, it’s partisan politics.

um, how about creating jobs?
How much of what’s left of the Stimulus bill is going to re-election campaigns and staffing?

So Obama brings in campaign experts?? Why can’t he see that Americans don’t want to hear more crap? Obama needs to get some intelligent advisors around him to help him change his policies to promote Americans, not tearing us down.

Zero is nearing a serious break down if his performance in Ohio is any indication.I want his socialist domestic agenda torpedoed but he still has to act as C in C to defend this nation.Scary times await.

Bush and Cheney mess just runs so deep.
What a mess they left to clean up.
You expect President Obama to clean it
up in one year. It took eight years
to get this country in such shambles.
Why aren’t these two numskulls sitting
in prison about now.
Bush and Cheney just disasters of
the USA.

Stop talking and do somthing for crying out loud. IT’S THE ECONOMY STUPID!!!! The problem with Obama is he cannot function unless people are fawning over him. You wanted the job now do it. If you want be a celebrity go to freaking Hollywood.

Obama cane to the rust belt area of northern Ohio yesterday and told us that he was going to work hard to improve employment. He really didn’t say how. To throw more money for green jobs which may or my not create SOME jobs years down the road certainly does us NO GOOD now. Ohio businesses are falling over each other on the way south or overseas. Ohio businesses are being taxed to death. If I had a business here, I would get out also. Anyone with even a little understanding of economics would certainly encourage lower taxes for business and elimination of the capital gains tax. Those two actions alone would create the right climate for businesses to flourish and stimulate employment.

Bush and Cheney mess just runs so deep.
What a mess they left to clean up.
You expect President Obama to clean it
up in one year. It took eight years
to get this country in such shambles.
Why aren’t these two numskulls sitting
in prison about now.
Bush and Cheney just disasters of
the USA.
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A bit harsh perhaps, but people need to remember what a complete mess the country was in after their 8 years in power. Talk about poor leadership.

BHO’s plan all along was to bankrupt America. He said he wanted to rebuild America from the foundation up.Can’t wait for November, can’t wait for November, can’t wait for November!

What the President seems to be saying is “I am the only one capable of running the Democrat Party”. This is the kind of micromanagement which led to the demise of President Carter. Creating more bureaucracy violates the principle of K.I.S.S.

So much fun watching the worm turn…too bad we Americans have to suffer his whim.

Mr. Obama, you ever hear the expression “re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic”?

Tierra you can be as rude as you want, but your boy is gonna go down. By the way I use to be a Democrat. I can’t stand what he has done to this country. I don’t care what party they come from…”Do what is right for the people!’

As far as I can tell, he HAS thrown this country into a vulnerable situation, ripe for take over by another country. The debt he has placed US in is criminal. Trying to take away our medical care for a mindless replacement and then FORCING people to buy into it, or be jailed?!! Please, this man and the people making his mouth move are ALL criminal’s….Impeach him and his cohorts, before we don’t have a country to fight for.

Gotta love the way the right wing watched Bush and Cheney create crisis after crisis as they increased the national debt and presided over the almost complete collapse of the American economy – and now they’re trying to make Obama the cause of those crises.
Your attempts to demonize the President are about all you’ve been doing from the start.
The sleazy politics of the right wing and the god-fear Republicans. What a bunch of hypocrites.

In all due respect to the President—stop with all the BS speeches (we heard it all during the campaign) and roll up your sleeves and start doing something about the jobs situation in America. The time for talk is over. You need to stop the big companies from outsourcing all of our jobs so they can save money to get bigger bonuses. I just lost my job (which I thought was secure) due to job elimination. They are outsourcing what I do to India!!! America is outsoucring all their work to foreign countries so the big guys in the company can take more money.

I really hope that Obama just quits. Biden my be an airhead, but he must have some understanding of what works and what doesn’t work.

Posted by: Yvette | Jan 23, 2010 4:56:17 PM
They’re counting all their chickens before they hatch.
The only tactic the right wing (and the Republican) have had is attack and demonize the President – nothing else. Many people see this.
Attack and demonize is all the Republicans have – they certainly can’t run on their record.
Iran developed its secret nuclear facility on Bush’s watch. North Korea tested its first nuclear weapons on Bush’s watch. Bin Laden and al Qaeda escaped in Afghanistan on Bush’s watch. The national debt doubled on Bush’s watch. The economy collapsed on Bush’s watch. Scooter Libby charge, convicted and sentenced to jail on Bush’s watch. And on and on.
That is the Republican record.

Oh goodie…prepare yourself for more sugar-coated teleprompted LIES!!

Every thing is political. Expect to see more outright untruths. Obama is going start saying more pretty moderate words, but as he’s shown his first year, he’s just an empty suit.

I haven’t commented here since the election and I have to say Obama hasn’t disappointed, in terms of what I thought he would turn out to be (not in a positive light). He is trying to be President of the DNC, rather than President of the US and just is doing a hell of a bad job. He only cares about re-election, not about actually getting together a HCR that has a remote chance of actually working without putting the country and the middlecalss into massive debt.

Expect the Republicans to keep trying to duck their record under the Bush and Cheney administration and pretend the doubling of the national debt never happened – nor the collapse of the economy on their watch.
If Republicans run on their record – they lose pathetically.
Expect the only tactic they’ve had for several years – attack and demonize the Democrats.

I doubt that anyone believed one man could turn the economy around in one year but was hoping he wouldn’t make it considerably worse asking too much?

I pay my bills. I pay my taxes. I do not receive aid. I vote. I volunteer. I work hard. I save money. I paid off my mortgage. I am an average American who is mad as hell about my taxes being used for those people who have not done what I have. I will vote for those who promise to bring fiscal sanity to this mess that was inherited by Obama and then vastly escalated by him.

Posted by: tierra | Jan 23, 2010 5:03:48 PM
“Iran developed its secret nuclear facility on Bush’s watch. North Korea tested its first nuclear weapons on Bush’s watch. Bin Laden and al Qaeda escaped in Afghanistan on Bush’s watch. The national debt doubled on Bush’s watch. The economy collapsed on Bush’s watch. Scooter Libby charge, convicted and sentenced to jail on Bush’s watch. And on and on.
That is the Republican record.”
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Under Bush:
- Set record for consecutive quarters of GDP growth
- Unemployment under 4.5%
- Low inflation
- Low interest rates
- Lower tax rates across the board
- Deficits shrinking
- Tax revenues growing
Then comes Pelosi and Reid:
One year later – Economic collapse.

Let me say that I worked hard, saved, did not take out a mortgage I could not afford but lost my job due to outsourcing of work. Never thought it would happen but here my family is with such uncertainity for the future now. it is a terrible feeling and I do not wish it on anyone. Unfortunately though, I think many more of us are going to be losing our jobs in the near future. Americans need to start buying American made products! We need to stop outsourcing all our work. The only people that are being helped by this are the corporate executives who sit back and take the huge salaries and bonuses while the workers bees are let go so they can have their 3rd home on Florida!! Wake up America.

The Bush administration watched as the economy collapsed.
Bush called it ‘a rough patch’. McCain said ‘the fundamentals of the economy are strong’.
They didn’t have a clue.

The American people are smarter than this President thinks. We know for a fact that the Democrats have been in control since 2006 and the economy has been dropping ever since.

“I pay my bills. I pay my taxes. I do not receive aid. I vote. I volunteer. I work hard. I save money. I paid off my mortgage. I am an average American who is mad as hell about my taxes being used for those people who have not done what I have. I will vote for those who promise to bring fiscal sanity to this mess that was inherited by Obama and then vastly escalated by him.”
I agree up until the last point. I think drastic measures were needed to save our economy and not until it’s sound can the government spending decrease in any meaningful way. I also don’t see the Republican Party as a viable option, they massively grew the Federal Government both in size and spending. We need a viable third party when the two main ones just don’t get it.

It’s easy BO…God gave you 2 ears and 1 mouth so that you would listen twice as much as you read us the teleprompter…oh wait a minute, there is no God…nevermind!

Campaigning, campaigning, campaigning.
Obama never stops from running for office.
Be the President, Obama, not the candidate.
Unfortunately, Obama does not know how to lead or how to govern. He does what he likes best stand in front of a friendly crowd and soak in the applause.

Plouffe? Heck, why not go ahead an put him charge of Homeland Security, the Defense Department, and the Department of Justice, too. You know, all the other political arms of the White House.

Congress needs to be balanced. It will be the good for the president if Democrats loose seats in November. If democrats keep their seat he will be forced to run the country from the left.
I will vote against democrats in my state. But I support the president.

“The last Republican administration added as much national debt as almost all of the previous administrations combined – and then presided over the collapse of the American economy.
Who wants to bankrupt America again?”
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If Obama’s own budget projections hold out, he will have built more debt at his 20 MONTH mark than Bush did in 8 years.
There shouldn’t be anyone happy about Bush’s spending.
But to say that somehow Bush’s spending was awful, the Obama is doing a great job – it just doesn’t pass the snicker test.

That’s the point, there won’t be a private sector. Progressives want a communist state where everything and everyone is controlled by govt.
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Again, the sadly deluded paranoia of the right and the Republicans. And the attempt to demonize the Democrats.
Please keep these delusional people as far away from power as possible.

You talk about the republican record, what about the Democrat record.
Remember the Democrats have been in charge of the house and senate since 2006.
Deficit Quadrupled under Obama’s watch.
Unemployment still above 10% under Obama’s watch.
Taxes through the roof Obama’s Watch.
Backroom deals, and bribes for vote Obama’s watch.
Fact is until we vote out incumbents, and leveled the field so no one party has total control, we are screwed.

There shouldn’t be anyone happy about Bush’s spending.
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Bush didn’t come into power with a collapse economy, federal and state budgets stripped by rapidly rising unemployment, bankrupticies and foreclosures through the roof, major banks, financial institutions and auto companies collapsing. That is what he left however.

Bringing another kamakazi pilot on board won’t save the ship.

If the crappy, whinny republicans had agreed to work with the dems, and really meant it, in the first place… then maybe things would be a whole lot different. What… you expect the president to go over there and pull each of there ears and give them “time outs” every time they have an argument. The republicans whole agenda from day one was to defeat this president. It’s been their way or the highway. Why can’t they compromise…. at least a little bit. They were wrong for 8 years. They’re the sleeping ones.

I wonder how annoying Nancy Pelosi realizes she looks smiling and laughing every time you see her while college grads like most of my friends and families, sharp people with degrees fight with others over a job opening stocking shelves? I wonder when we hear about Obama’s many trips overseas and how the President helping all the poor countries in the world to our borrowed money, most of these people who hate and want to kill us, just how out of touch with unemployed, struggling, Americans he realizes he is. When Harry Reid and the Democrats in DC fight so hard for a health care plan we all need so bad, so they can force to pay for it with our food and mortgage money, while our incomes shrink or worse for many disappear? I wonder how much more money, we are borrowing and sinking deeper into debt over, we will throw away on wars we can not afford, started by a moron named Bush who is responsible for creating this recession that the Dems have made even worse? Our entire Government has failed us, Dems and Reps alike. Voting Republican will not solve a thing, after all they are the ones who got us here to begin with, but kind of sucks pretty bad when the alternative party has no clue how to fix and change it all? remember change? what happened to change? yeah things changed alright, they got even WORSE. I am a Democrat, and I am sick and tired of our politicians lining their pockets with our money and wasting the rest on everything but THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

The dems had a super majority,didn’t you get the memo?

Again, the sadly deluded paranoia of the right and the Republicans. And the attempt to demonize the Democrats.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 23, 2010 5:24:58 PM
Please list all specific legislative accomplishments by Democratic members of Congress since 2006.

Under Bush:
- Deficits shrinking
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This is simply not true. The Bush administration increased the national debt (by overspending and under taxing) by close to $3 TRILLION dollars while Republicans had the Congress.
His ‘strong economy’ was a house of cards that fell apart completely in a matter of months while he called it ‘a rough patch’.

David Plouffe + Olivia Morgan= Lobbyist

This is the Republican record.
The national debt doubled on Bush’s watch. The economy collapsed on Bush’s watch. 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch. Scooter Libby charged, convicted and sentenced to jail on Bush’s watch. Halliburton, Bush and Cheney ‘lose’ $9 Billion dollars in Iraq. Bush and Cheney ‘lose’ the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Iran developed its secret nuclear facility on Bush’s watch. North Korea tested its first nuclear weapons on Bush’s watch. Bin Laden and al Qaeda escaped in Afghanistan on Bush’s watch.
And on and on.
No wonder all the Republicans do is attempt to demonize the Democrats – your record is abysmal.

The more you Obama supporters bring up Bush, the more we all remember how much better off we were during those years than we are now. Maybe not great, but most definitely better. Even Air America did better under Bush.

The headline of “Obama gets fired up” is not as meaningful as the one that would serve America best which would simply read “Obama gets fired”.

Thank God for Scott Brown.
Gridlock sucks but it is better than idiot liberals. Obama is the best thing that ever happened to the Republican Party.

UH OH BAMA TO BRING IN HIS ELECTION CREW,REV JEREMIAH CAN NOT BE FAR BEHIND.THAT CRAZY OLD UNCLE.

StPete:
“”The last Republican administration added as much national debt as almost all of the previous administrations combined – and then presided over the collapse of the American economy.
Who wants to bankrupt America again?”
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If Obama’s own budget projections hold out, he will have built more debt at his 20 MONTH mark than Bush did in 8 years.
There shouldn’t be anyone happy about Bush’s spending.
But to say that somehow Bush’s spending was awful, the Obama is doing a great job – it just doesn’t pass the snicker test.”
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WOW.
1.75 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT in one year.
Is somebody here seriously complaining about Bush spending?

“… the president has ordered a review of the Democratic Party’s entire political operation.”
Of course, why bother to govern the way American’s want the country run. Instead, the Commander -in-Chief, would rather see what other avenues he can use, to circumvent the will of the people! Why bother trying to govern, when you do not have a clue (which we tried to tell the country prior to the last election), instead… use politics.
Remember, the President is only a man, the Office of the President is the greatest and most powerful institution in the world.
Be Afraid, be Very Afraid!!! We are coming to REPLACE you!

Psychologists have a word for the ability of certain individuals to manipulate the emotions of the public– it is called “elevation.” Obama had nothing in his record to warrant his nomination and totally devalued the Nobel Prize. The next worst Peace Prize was given to Yassir Arafat (who invented airplane hijacking and refined sui-homicide bombing). I have been waiting for the American people to “WAKE UP.” Obama is the worst choice for one of the most DANGEROUS times. People: Iran is RACING for a nuclear bomb and Obama is incapable of doing anything except to issue one “deadline” for Iran (e.g. the end of September!) and then another and now, has dropped the idea of sanctions. Where is John Bolton when we NEED him. He said he would give Iran 2 months to come clean or face military action. Mark my words–Islamist Iran with a nuclear bomb/plutonium will result in radiological Islamic terrorist bombs exploding in the West–the U.S. and or the nations of the EU (many of whom have already suffered attacks). Only a fool who has learned NOTHING from WW2 appeasement and is ignorant of the agenda of Islamists would be sleeping like this administration. It is imperative that the American people protect themselves. And getting rid of this MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER turned President would be the first step. His passivity is unbelievable at such a critical time and what does he DO?? Worries about his “numbers,” his party, his power base. This is the administration who has governed via ILLUSION. As the old saying goes, “even a change for the worse is better.”

Plouffe didn’t do so well at Organizing for America. Remember that data base of 6 million Obama followers? He couldn’t even mobilize them to rev up support for health care before the summer. My guess is that is calls for donations probably were falling flat too.

I guess you should’ve been elected huh Merat?? Jerk

OOPS! That would be google GOOOH!

Correct Umaguma. And it would be interesting to see who gets bought in future elections because of that stupid decision. A government ran by phone monopolies HAHA!

That’s right..blame Democrats, blame the poor, blah, blah, blah…Capitalism gone wild! It was the like the 1920′s all over again…and then the house of cards collapsed (Capitalism a Love Story..thanks M. Moore) It’s about human behavior called GREED and the creedo that “I got what I need so screw everyone else.” (seems to be the Republican mantra and that of some Demos too…Keep Obama…Clean out the Senate incumbents no matter what their party in 2010..THEIR AIN’T NO SAINTS IN CONGRESS…ONLY SINNERS!).

“I don’t blame you for trying to distract people from the Republican record – it’s abysmal.
The national debt doubled on Bush’s watch. The economy collapsed on Bush’s watch. 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch. Scooter Libby charged, convicted and sentenced to jail on Bush’s watch. Halliburton, Bush and Cheney ‘lose’ $9 Billion dollars in Iraq. Bush and Cheney ‘lose’ the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Iran developed its secret nuclear facility on Bush’s watch. North Korea tested its first nuclear weapons on Bush’s watch. Bin Laden and al Qaeda escaped in Afghanistan on Bush’s watch.
And on and on.”
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Under Bush:
- Set record for consecutive quarters of GDP growth
- Unemployment under 4.5%
- Low inflation
- Low interest rates
- Lower tax rates across the board
- Deficits shrinking
- Tax revenues growing
Then comes Pelosi and Reid:
One year later – Economic collapse.

For The Record
I don’t blame you for trying to distract people from the Republican record – it’s abysmal.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 23, 2010 5:49:53 PM
And the attempt to demonize the Democrats.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 23, 2010 5:24:58 PM
I’m responding to a statement you made. If the right wing is demonizing Democrats, then I’m asking you to defend the Democratic record. It’s really that simple. What legislation have they passed since 2006 that has made anything in this country better?

“1.75 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT in one year. Is somebody here seriously complaining about Bush spending?”
Absolutely, Bush added $4.97 trillion to the debt and took a positive Federal Surplus from the Clinton Administration far into the negative. If you want to talk strictly about money, without picking sides with either major party, so far financially Bush was a lot more expensive for this country. Especially since he didn’t really begin to adequately deal with the financial collapse under his watch, he handed it off to the next guy. Really, we should be complaining at both. Bush was a horrible president and very bad for this country, there is no way to sugarcoat it, even if you’re a Republican. It’s probably too soon to tell if the Obama Admin’s economic policies will turn out any better, let’s sure hope so. But we should have no illusions how expensive Bush was for our country.

Obama is a one term president. One term too many.

Posted by: Robert | Jan 23, 2010 6:10:39 PM
“SPIN”

“Absolutely, Bush added $4.97 trillion to the debt and took a positive Federal Surplus from the Clinton Administration far into the negative. ”
Posted by: SusiePat | Jan 23, 2010 6:08:59 PM
First of all, I’ve never seen 5 trillion before – please site your source for that. It sounds like you are actually including the speding that BHO has done this year.
Second, you are CLEARLY taking sides, while pretending not to.
We’ve seen the EXPLOSION of spending that has already taken place – PLUS the continued EXPLSOION of spending that has already been projected for future budgets (projecting 6% of GDP deficits EVEN WITH incredibly optimistic econ forcasts).
To witness that, and to say “Bush was horrible, but BHO might be okay, we’ll see”, is a total and utter joke.
Bush was clearly bad in regards to spending, no question – but BHO is several orders of magnitude worse – and proud of it.
He is bankrupting the country. He is making the future budget nightmare much, much worse.
You need to get real.

You need to get real.
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You need to study what happens when a country’s economy collapses like this one did under the Bush administration.
Every western industrialized country has put in place stimulus plans, deficit spending and tax cuts to help their people and their country survive the economic crash.

Motown said…”WOW.
1.75 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT in one year.
Is somebody here seriously complaining about Bush spending?”
Why don’t you get your facts straight before shooting off your pie hole. Bush and the republicans took an 800 billion dollar surplus (created by Clinton) and squandered it…leaving a 1.2 TRILLION dollar deficit for by President Obama. It is a known fact that Bush and the republicans financed their 2 immoral wars by SELLING THE UNITED STATES TO THE CHINESE. That’s right…during Bush’s term…1.2 trillion dollars of our debt was sold to the Chinese who are now our owners and bankers. If that was not enough THE REPUBLICANS DEVASTATED OUR ECONOMY and BANKING SYSTEM and eroded our civil rights. Have Americans fallen asleep again and forgotten what got us into the incredibly deep mess we are in. Narcissistic Republicans and less educated Americans think like children and love to assign blame and point fingers where they do not belong. Republicans believe they can somehow spin their own reality and get away with it. This economic crises is as bad as the 1930′s. The GREAT DEPRESSION took perhaps 10 years to recover. The vast majority of American idiots believe that somehow Obama is going to magically snap his fingers and fix the TREMENDOUS CRISES CREATED BY 10 Years of Republican rule. And now the same poor stupid Americans somehow think that the solution is to turn back to the Republicans who created all of this. It’s so pathetic. Soon it won’t matter as the republicans have caused so much damage that the world may not recover at all.

When the going gets rough, they always take refuge in bashing “Bush”.
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In case you missed it, Bush was the Republican president. His policies and actions have contributed DIRECTLY to where the American economy is today. To refer to his policies and actions is entirely legitimate. What is laughable is for you to pretend otherwise.

When the going gets rough, they always take refuge in bashing “Bush”.
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In case you missed it, Bush was the Republican president. His policies and actions have contributed DIRECTLY to where the American economy is today. To refer to his policies and actions is entirely legitimate. What is laughable is for you to pretend otherwise.

Obama has gone from using a hoe to dig his hole to a ditch digger! What is so discouraging is the notion he has that he can ‘campaign his way out of this recession, and continue to go in debt to pay off criticism’!
He may find that even some liberals in his own party will seek self survival before hitching their wagon to his old mule (i.e., Barbara Boxer).

Yes, the “Bush Haters” are out tonight!
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This works great as a substitute for intelligence. I suppose I would do that too if I had no facts or understanding of the issues. Who wants to debate when you can, call someone a name, or bring in an issue that has no relation to the story being reported.

“Fiscal years run October to October – the essentials of this 2009 budget were already in place before Obama was even elected.”
I don’t care who you are, that’s funny right there!!
The Fiscal Year does run from Oct to Oct. However, Congress passes the budget when it wants. The budget does NOT require Presidential signature. The Pelosi/Reid Budget is the one Obama inherited, not the Bush budget.
The funding, however, actually comes from the appropriations bills.
The ONLY FY 2010 appropriations passed before the end of FY 2009 were those for funding the legislative branch, go figure.
Appropriations bills for FY 2010 for Veteran Affairs and State have not been passed yet. Defense, Transportation and HUD were passed in Dec, the remainder in mid to late Oct.

The Republican tactic is to frame the Democrat as smart and elitist and then position their candidate as the regular down-home candidate.
That’s what they did with Bush. He’s the son of a very powerful big banking, CIA, big oil family in America – and they painted him as an ‘aw shucks’ man of the people – going to Washington to take back the country for his folk. Hogwash. Big banking, big oil CIA family taking back Washington for . … the war machine, the top 5% and who else?
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Same as with Brown. Well-off Massachusetts lawyer glamour boy has a ‘pickup’ truck. This makes him a ‘man of the people’.

“Is it just me, or do some posters here manage to find a way to make every blog posting about Bush?
While complaining about “smearing” the current President – they never seem to be able to deal with topics directly related to this president.
When the going gets rough, they always take refuge in bashing “Bush”.
Has anyone else noticed this pathetic irony?”
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I agree with this. There is a lot of silliness on this blog.
Every subject is NOT about Bush.
If you have to turn to Bush to defend your position in regards to Obama – then you clearly don’t have a very strong position.

The Republican tactic is to frame the Democrat as smart and elitist and then position their candidate as the regular down-home candidate.
That’s what they did with Bush. He’s the son of a very powerful big banking, CIA, big oil family in America – and they painted him as an ‘aw shucks’ man of the people – going to Washington to take back the country for his folk. Hogwash. Big banking, big oil CIA family taking back Washington for . … the war machine, the top 5% and who else?
Posted by: tierra | Jan 23, 2010 6:39:43 PM
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LMAO~ We all know that that could not be true (Democrat and smart [in the same sentence])… You give us all the evidence in your writing. We would never accuse you of being smart. I can definitely tell you are a progressive though, your seething hate for institutions and business. Tell me, what will you do (if you had your way) when the government runs everything, but produces nothing. What will happen when the Unions repair all the roads in this nation, but must have 35 days off a year paid? Government and Unions consume much more than they produce. Look at the Auto Industry, there’s a fine example of production, and prosperity.
I imagine you would fit right in, how bout going and getting a job someday, and earn a living like the rest of us! Peace Out!

When the going gets rough, they always take refuge in bashing “Bush”.
Has anyone else noticed this pathetic irony?”
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In case you missed it, Bush was the Republican president.
His policies and actions have contributed DIRECTLY to where the American economy is today. Referring to his policies and actions is entirely legitimate.
What is laughable is for you to pretend otherwise.

LMAO~ We all know that that could not be true (Democrat and smart [in the same sentence])… You give us all the evidence in your writing. We would never accuse you of being smart. I can definitely tell you are a progressive though, your seething hate for institutions and business. Tell me, what will you do (if you had your way) when the government runs everything, but produces nothing. What will happen when the Unions repair all the roads in this nation, but must have 35 days off a year paid? Government and Unions consume much more than they produce. Look at the Auto Industry, there’s a fine example of production, and prosperity.
I imagine you would fit right in, how bout going and getting a job someday, and earn a living like the rest of us! Peace Out!
Posted by: whatnext? | Jan 23, 2010 6:56:36 PM**************************NEWS FLASH*** DID YOU SEE HOW MUCH OUR CAPITALIST SYSTEM AKA WALL STREET OR BIG BANKS TOOK FROM AMERICA……I think you went to sleep on this subject matter!

“PBS did a great series on Frontline about the debt. If anyone is interested in understanding the Bush Administration’s economic legacy, both from staff within the administration and economists outside of it, it’s mostly online:”
Posted by: SusiePat | Jan 23, 2010 6:45:35 PM
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They right wing would probably censor this is they could. They don’t want Bush’s policies and actions even TALKED about. We’re supposed to remain silent about Bush and his policies.

So instead of staying in the White House and doing his homework, he’s hitting the campaign trail…
It won’t work.
People of tired of his head swinging left to right as he reads the teleprompter.
People have seen the lack of substance behind his high-sounding words.
Time to ask, who is this guy anyway — a question that was not adequately answered by our MSM in 2008.
Posted by: twg | Jan 23, 2010 6:36:05 PM
*****It was answered you just choose to go to sleep or refuse to do any research! Of all the information that is provided in the USA, this question should never be asked.

Instead of limiting himself to cosmetic changes he could try listening to the people and fighting for the things that the people want and expect from him. Somehow, I doubt he’ll go that far though. The people is not where he and the party are planning on getting their campaign money from.
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Again, the attempts to paint the Democrats as ‘elitist’ and ‘for big corporations not the people’.
The Republicans therefor are the down home folks ‘for the people’.
And we’ve seen that nonsense over and over. Bush was not a downhome, for the people guy – he’s the son of Big Banking, Big Oil, the CIA and the military industrial machine. The large corporations and the top 5% wealthy.
The Republican ‘for the people’ image is a complete joke.

Comical. This is his idea of fixing things huh?

News flash: Bush is not the President any more. He hasn’t been for a year now.

he’s the son of Big Banking, Big Oil, the CIA and the military industrial machine. The large corporations and the top 5% wealthy.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 23, 2010 7:13:38 PM
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A left wing laundry list of class hate.

The Republican ‘for the people’ image is a complete joke.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 23, 2010 7:13:38 PM
I would say that making back room deals with Unions, Ben Nelson, Landreau, etc. would have to rule Obama out of the “for the people” category as well.

News flash: Bush is not the President any more. He hasn’t been for a year now.
Posted by: auntydemocrat2010 | Jan 23, 2010 7:17:43 PM
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In case you missed it, Bush was the Republican president implementing Republican politics.
His policies and actions have contributed DIRECTLY to where the American economy is today. Referring to his policies and actions is entirely legitimate.
What is laughable is for you to pretend otherwise.
Bush is what it’s like when Republicans are in power.

And we’ve seen that nonsense over and over. Bush was not a downhome, for the people guy – he’s the son of Big Banking, Big Oil, the CIA and the military industrial machine. The large corporations and the top 5% wealthy.
The Republican ‘for the people’ image is a complete joke.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 23, 2010 7:13:38 PM
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Halliburton! You forgot Halliburton and Pharma!
Q: Which party has more millionaires in Congress? (Hint: it’s not the Republicans)
Last time I checked GWB was the son of Barbara Bush and GHWB . I really don’t know how someone can be a son of corporations and governmental departments. Very strange tale you’re spinning there.

Yes because life is SOOOOOO terrible in America now.
When you get a chance: leave your centrally heated house, put down your latte, get a quick hot shower, put on your nice clothes that you bought at the mall, hop in your SUV, stop by a resturant and get a high quality tastey meal, set your Garmin to the nearest rest home, put your cell phone on vibrate -
And then go in and ask somebody that grew up in the great depression how terrible things are today.
Yes, capitalism has ruined everything.
Posted by: roundthehorn | Jan 23, 2010 7:16:37 PM***********************Obviously some people are still fortunate to do and have this opportunity to do such things. However, there are many who have done the right things and became victims of capitalism. Sorry your just the minority who was not “simply” affected!

Many of the structural elements of the 2009 budget were put in place by Bush policies, including the two wars, including the unpaid for seniors drug plan, including the cuts to tax revenues which added vast quantities of deficit into the budget.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 23, 2010 6:51:06 PM
There is nothing in your list that this congress and this president couldn’t have done something about by now. Nothing.

News flash: politics and the economy move slow, we are currently dealing with the problems the Bush Admin in part created for us. You can’t ignore 8 years of bad management and out of control spending. That 5 trillion dollars in debt he racked up and expensive war in Iraq didn’t just disappear last year. Which they would have though, we probably wouldn’t all be arguing!
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Funny, but in Obama’s first 20 month’s he is projected to outspend Bush’s 8 years. Eight years of bad management? The numbers for the first six years don’t bear that out at all. We all know the global economy collapsed because of (among other things) the repeal of Glass-Steagall, allowing investment and commercial banks to do business together, and Wall Street and D.C. greed. There is no way Fannie and Freddie were unaware they were purchasing toxic assets. No way at all. Poor legislation, poor oversight and greed caused our recession, not Bush.

Its better to be a “victim” of capitalism than a victim of communism or totalitarian government control. Bankruptcy is not a death sentence. Its a way to weasel out of debt you legitimately owe using the government. There are people in Russia, China and Cuba would would gladly trade places with you I’m sure.

re: “If it weren’t for capitalism you wouldn’t even have a home or a country to live in.”
You’re confusing capitalism with corprate oligarchies. Ever read Adam Smith, the father of capitalism? He says that for capitalism to flourish, we need government regulation of business. The corporate owned media will not tell you this. They want you to think that capitalism means letting corporations do whatever they want.

>> News Flash – Obama and congress have spent over $1.2 trillion on their own accord this year – and America is still losing jobs. We’ve buried our children under a mountain of debt for nothing.
Let’s all blame Bush. << ……… Newsflash! – The blame belongs to Bush! The money Bush spent in Iraq and Afghanistan has yet to be fully tallied but I assure you it will at minimum heavily contributed to the mountain of debt. I agree Obama has spent mega money since he took office but our economy was on the verge of complete collapse and he had stimulate our economy. I do disagree with how some of the stimulus money was spent, especially the money that went to the Wall Street bailout. I also agree that we do continue to lose jobs but again most of the blame belongs to Bush, the economic downturn spurred unemployment and things have not yet turned around. In short there is a reason posters here blame Bush, because it's true.

Government regulating businesses and banks is not the same as the government owning them all.

Again, the attempts to paint the Democrats as ‘elitist’ and ‘for big corporations not the people’.
The Republicans therefor are the down home folks ‘for the people’.
And we’ve seen that nonsense over and over. Bush was not a down home, for the people guy – Bush was from a family of Big Banking , Big Oil, the CIA and the military industrial machine and the top 5% wealthy.
The Bush’s were not downhome, they were big time power structure in bed with the Saudi’s and who knows who else.
Cheney and the military industrial complex hand in hand through Halliburton.
War mongers.
The Republican ‘for the people’ image is a complete joke.

How do you spend your way out of debt? Could you explain to me how that works?
Posted by: auntydemocrat2010 | Jan 23, 2010 7:31:45 PM
I think they want you to spend your way out of THEIR debt.

EVEN WITH 60 VOTES the Democrats couldn’t vote in legislation over THE PARTY OF NO.
Posted by: topgun | Jan 23, 2010 7:30:50 PM
Assuming you mean Health Care, if the legislation was any good, it would have passed. It stunk – so live with it.

Talk about war mongers. Obama had a chance to end the conflict in both Iraq and Afghanistan in 2009. Instead what did he do? He waited 3 months to make a decision that should have took 24 hours and came to the conclusion to send a troop surge instead!!! I still dont understand what we intend to accomplish in those places. Congress by the way voted in favor of the wars along with Hillary Clinton herself and yet people blame Bush! We wanted the war after 9/11

Under “Down Home” Bush:
The national debt doubled on Bush’s watch. The economy collapsed on Bush’s watch. 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch. Scooter Libby charged, convicted and sentenced to jail on Bush’s watch. Halliburton, Bush and Cheney ‘lose’ $9 Billion dollars in Iraq. Bush and Cheney ‘lose’ the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Iran developed its secret nuclear facility on Bush’s watch. North Korea tested its first nuclear weapons on Bush’s watch. Bin Laden and al Qaeda escaped in Afghanistan on Bush’s watch.
And on and on.”

“I want my tax dollars paying for weapons to kill terrorists…not paying for lawyers to represent them!”…Sen. Scott Brown.
Libs-take notes…

Then comes Pelosi and Reid:
One year later – Economic collapse.
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The ‘strong’ economy in 2007 was a house of cards ready to collapse, a couple of House votes didn’t change that.
Bush thought the economic crash was ‘a rough spot’. McCain thought ‘the fundamentals of the economy are strong’. The Republicans didn’t have a clue.

Bush thought the economic crash was ‘a rough spot’. McCain thought ‘the fundamentals of the economy are strong’. The Republicans didn’t have a clue.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 23, 2010 7:53:05 PM
I’m still waiting on Obama’s fiscally responsible voting record as Senator.

Look what Bush inherited and compare the job he did with it.
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Yes, the Republicans inherited a nearly eliminated deficit – and left the national debt doubled.
The Republicans promised smaller government and to work ‘for the people’ ‘real people’ same as they always do – and then grossly overspent, undertaxed and drove the country further and further into debt every year they were in power.

The fundamentals of the economy ARE strong. Thats why we arent in a depression. Not because of bailouts and regulation! The thing that is weak is the mind of liberals. Easily swayed to believe anthing they are told if they think it means getting something for free or without working for it – they will support it – even if they see the negative consequences.

Yawn…The blame Bush stuff is so tired and old, besides it shows you’re desperate and an inch deep!
Why not go with the facts on Obamas leadership and accomplishments….oh wait, I guess the Bush drivel is all you got….carry on!

Lest we forget Obama’s role in the housing crisis:
“Obama once represented ACORN in a lawsuit against the state of Illinois.
“He was personally recruited by Chicago’s ACORN to run training sessions in “direct action.” That’s the euphemism for the techniques used under the cover of the federal Community Reinvestment Act to intimidate financial institutions into giving what have been called “Ninja” loans — no income, no job, no assets — to people who couldn’t afford them.
“He even helped ACORN by acting as their lawyer in a suit against against Citibank.”

Does Obama and his goons have any idea how many independent branches of government exist . . . or does he still thinks there is only one branch of government and that he controls everything?

Getting back to the article – its the old ‘lipstick on a pig’ again. A pig with lipstick is still a pig and very recognizable. Especially a commie pig. Wait until the elections and you will soon see a great vomiting forth of democrats. A purging is long overdue.

tierra:
“Iran developed its secret nuclear facility on Bush’s watch. North Korea tested its first nuclear weapons on Bush’s watch. Bin Laden and al Qaeda escaped in Afghanistan on Bush’s watch.
And on and on.”
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tierra, you were asked earlier but you didn’t respond.
What you have SPECIFICALLY done to stop N Korea from developing/testing nuclear weapons?
Same for Iran.
Give us your specific recommendations for what should have been done to stop the development.
Please be specific.

What you have SPECIFICALLY done to stop N Korea from developing/testing nuclear weapons?
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North Korea already tested its first nuclear weapon under the Bush administration. If Obama had allowed this the right would have condemned him as a traitor.
Just accept the Republicans were unable to do anything to stop the North Koreans – and step back and give this administration more than 13 months.
Your double standards are atrocious.

auntydemocrat – WOW! I was not aware that Obama had such powers. Thanks for telling me about this.

“The Republicans didn’t have a clue.”
Apaprently nobody had a clue. Who sits on banking committees when they hold the house and the senate? The majority of course. So who was in the majority in 2007 and 2008? Democrats were Tierra.
Although I don’t hold much faith in anyone these days the facts are we didn’t get to a crash in a few years and it took many people screwing up to do it. We also will not get out of it overnight and it will take more than one person to do that as well.

The Scott Brown election: the most humiliating rebuke of a sitting president since 1974.
Tierra, can you put me in touch with Ellie Light?

Obama is better at campaigning than governing. Our country will be better of once he gets back into full campaign mode and leaves the governance to the next president.

“The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.”
-Ronald Reagan
Checkmate!

So the proletariat has spoken, they express their votes against President Obama, and does he pause to listen to their concerns? Does he ponder how his policies might have not served the nation?
No! He hires more political guns, because for him it is not about sound POLICY, it is all short-term, partisan POLITICS. It is not about the Good of the nation, but the empowerment of his party and their corporate cronies. (And, Heavens, just how bloated is his staff already, in a time that demands at least a pretense of fiscal discipline?)
How about you enlist a STATESMAN, Obama? Come on, just ONE.

While this fool wasted an entire year on his healthcare fiasco, four million Americans lost their jobs. A hundred thousand jobs lost for ever speech Obama gave on healthcare.
Those of us who said all along that he wasn’t up to the job are feeling quite smug these days.

Yeah! Those last guys believed in small government. That’s why it grew so much under them!

They’re also ignoring NY where they gave the seat to the first democrat since about the civil war.

David Ploufee’s wife works for Dewey Square Group a big lobbyist firm in Washington. Look it up.
More lobbyists in Obama’s administration.
More lies from these people.

Theres that magic 8 years number again. Lets forget that the other 7 years under Bush before Obama were a period of low unemployment and economic prosperity! Back then at least we had jobs. There isnt going to be any economic recovery without jobs. Democrats took over in congress and presided over that decline. Do you think it was Bush’s idea for a pork laden bailout bill or congresses?

Mr.Obama worries about the SCOTUS ruling while overlooking the hundreds of millions he got from never clearly-identified sources during his campaign. If you look up hypocrite in the dictionary, you will find a picture of Mr. Obama.

“Lets forget that the other 7 years under Bush before Obama were a period of low unemployment and economic prosperity!”
Mythical right-wing prosperity? It’s a shame so many Americans were living in prosperity during those years and didn’t even know it–at least not enough to vote Republican in 2006.
“Back then at least we had jobs”
At least those whose jobs hadn’t been shipped overseas by Bush’s buddies. Wouldn’t it be nice now to have those back?

Tierra: Yes very interesting that our economy seems to collapse every 7 years when democrats take office isnt it?

kandy: oooh ooh I know how about “Those cops acted stupidly!” LOL

kandy: oooooh I got another one (stiffens up neck and acts like Obama making a speech) – “If we dont pass this legislation now, unemployment may reach 8 percent!” LOLOL ROFL

And who would have guess that a Democrat tax cheat (Rangel) would head the tax-writing committee in Congress, while another Democrat cheat (Geithner) is the head of the US Treasury, enforcing the tax laws?
Not to mention the other tax cheat (Daschle), who almost headed up HHS.
Actually paying the taxes is only for the little people, not the big shot Democrats.

Tierra: Yes very interesting that our economy seems to collapse every 7 years when democrats take office isnt it?
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No, the economies collapse at year 7 of those two Republican presidents – after 7 full years of their policies.
The stock market crash under Reagan was the largest in American history, and Bush’s economic collapse rivals the Great Depression.

Do you really think most Democrats are going to let Obama touch their campaigns??? Does anyone here really believe any educated American (and almost all uneducated Americans) will fall for Obama’s out and out LIES about who he is or what his agenda is? I believe most Americans will take a much closer look at politicians before pulling the lever in the polling booth from now on. Everything about Obama was out there for the public to see, and most ignored it (laziness), only to believe his lies during the campaign. It won’t happen twice.
It is obvious, that he says one thing and does something completely different. History will show, this guy will be the worst President ever elected in this country. One thing most people realize, that those on the “Left” and the government do not. The government may move to the “Left,” but the government has no power without the people. The people of the United States will NEVER stand for Socialism, Progressivism, or Communism. Keep in mind, the Tea Party has just begun!
There is one thing that is plainly obvious within the Obama administration….
They are the MOST TRANSPARENT administration we have ever had in this country…
It is painfully transparent that the Obama Administration is intentionally trying to COLLAPSE the government by over spending, and over borrowing, to ruin the economy, create high unemployment, more welfare, collapse the Dollar, usher in trans-national law, usurp our National sovereignty. If you do not see it, you are blind! Remember his quote, “Five days until we fundamentally transform this nation.” What could be more transparent!
In November of 2010 and 2012, there will be another transformation in America, and the progressive, liberal socialists will be banished for another 60-80 years. Only after this little foray, we will be rolling back every socialist policy to ensure this country never suffers this insult again!

“the first time a Republican has been elected to represent the Bay State since 1972, ”
I’m not too impressed by this factoid since only a few years ago the governor (elected by statewide vote, just like a Senator) of MA was Mitt Romney (R)…

Imagine if Lincoln had whined and cried about inheriting slavery instead of leading the country out of it…
…it’s called “Leadership”

Just what Obama needs.
Bring in someone from the campaign of 2008.
He’s been stuck on campaign mode since 2008.

“If we dont pass this legislation now, unemployment may reach 8 percent!” LOLOL ROFL
auntydemocrat2010 | Jan 23, 2010 8:53:28 PM
Who are you quoting? Obama never said that. The closest he came was when some of his aides released a white paper shortly before he took office – a paper that included an ENORMOUS disclaimer:
“It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error. There is the obvious uncertainty that comes from modeling a hypothetical package rather than the final legislation passed by the Congress. But, there is the more fundamental uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program. Our estimates of economic relationships and rules of thumb are derived from historical experience and so will not apply exactly in any given episode. Furthermore, the uncertainty is surely higher than normal now because the
current recession is unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity.”
Did Obama ever say anything like your quote, or are you just making something up?

Just what Obama needs.
Bring in someone from the campaign of 2008.
He’s been stuck on campaign mode since 2008.
Posted by: mick | Jan 23, 2010 9:05:59 PM
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Yep, all talk…no action! Stick a fork in it….He and the Democrats are done!

After 7 years of Republican policies, the economies were so fragile they collapsed.
In 1987 (Reagan) and 2008 (Bush). They had created economies so fundamentally sound, they collapsed like a deck of cards.
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It just goes to show you, what the Republican think they have built to being ‘fundamentally sound’ is an economy about to collapse.
Right John McCain? Right George Bush?

“History will show, this guy will be the worst President ever elected in this country”
My money would be on Bush going down in history as the worst ever.

Obama actually predicted unemployment would peak at 8.1% back in 2009 and then retreat to 7.9% by 2010. So much for that prediction huh?

Let me get this straight….the recent elections in VA, NJ and MA mean the Dems are doing great!…
…okay Dems, full speed ahead…please!

Republicans seem to think a strong economy is one with a puffed up stock market about to collapse and take down everything else with it – including peoples jobs and homes.
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This is what both Reagan and Bush created. Any many people paid for the ‘strong economies’. In Republican terms ‘strong economies’ means ‘ready to collapse’.

“Let’s see? Wouldn’t have anything to do with the second highest business tax rate in the world would it?”
I don’t know, but is that supposed to make shipping our jobs overseas OK? -especially when you’re pretending to care about jobs now?

Americans don’t know what they want,do you thinks spending billions of dollars on wars that you shouldn’t be fighting is going to bring you peace and jobs and economic prosperity, ask what the people in haiti wants, ask what the people in bangladesh wants. you nguys needs to set your priorities straight. Americans are their own enemies, fighting danm wars and blaming others for their woes!

Again I am asking if the economies collapsed – how were they ok for seven years each and then collapsed (mysteriously) when dems got elected tierra? You sure this is America you are talking about where everyone drives around in Lexuses and SUV’s and drinks $4 a cup Starbucks coffee? Doesnt sound like much of a collapse to me. Sounds more like a bunch of lazy slackers who think democrats would get them something for nothing. Democrats who are famous for messing up every single thing they get involved in since Carter.

Obama actually predicted unemployment would peak at 8.1% back in 2009 and then retreat to 7.9% by 2010. So much for that prediction huh?
auntydemocrat2010 | Jan 23, 2010 9:11:43 PM
Citation please. And if you are citing the Romer report, what part of the following did you not understand?
“It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error. There is the obvious uncertainty that comes from modeling a hypothetical package rather than the final legislation passed by the Congress. But, there is the more fundamental uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program. Our estimates of economic relationships and rules of thumb are derived from historical experience and so will not apply exactly in any given episode. Furthermore, the uncertainty is surely higher than normal now because the current recession is unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity.”
Seriously – how do you not understand that? The entire white paper was only 14 pages long.

Nothing cracks me up more than a bunch of people earning MAYBE 40K a year putting down Obama like he’s stupid. And yeah, if a democrat wins it’s because of the press. But if a republican wins it’s because of smart voters.
Posted by: secondlook | Jan 23, 2010 9:20:09 PM
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How do you explain Scott Brown’s victory?

Then comes Pelosi and Reid:
One year later – Economic collapse.
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Bush’s ‘strong economy’ was one over-extended and about to collapse. The Republicans have no idea how to build a fundamentally strong economy.
Same with Reagan, biggest stock market collapse in history 1987. Bush biggest crash since the Great Depression.

re: “How do you explain Scott Brown’s victory?”
He ran against a woman, and an old, boring woman to boot. Massachusetts has never elected a woman to the Senate, and they have only elected one woman to statewide office. And that woman was Coakley when she won Attorney General.
As soon as I saw Brown, I knew he would win. He’s gorgeous and he can get through an interview without making any big mistakes. That’s all it takes these days.

The trouble with the Bush/Reagan economies is that they were so over-extended when they crashed they took a lot of small people down – many people lost their jobs, many their homes. Some lost half their savings.
The Republicans had created sham economies that collapsed on themselves. Not good stewardship or management.

Tierra: Keep telling yourself the economy isnt strong and capitalism sucks while you type away in your safe comfortable home on your pc that costs hundreds of dollars with a fridge full of food, electricity, broadband and cell phone service. Ever been to a 3rd world country? Outside your luxurious vehicle awaits to catapult you to the grocery store, shopping mall or walmart or hopefully your job on Monday. Its a shame you dont understand the very world in which you live. People died for real democracy and freedom so that you could have the luxury of capitalism. Sleep soundly in your comfortable bed tonight. Good night.

But at least you’re just exaggerating and taking thing out of context now – a step up from making stuff up completely.
Posted by: jhw539 | Jan 23, 2010 9:19:06 PM
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Yeah, o.k. I always hate out of “Context.” And really get miffed when people do not “Cite” their blogs….

Posted by: review | Jan 23, 2010 9:34:49 PM
It wasn’t just the North Koreans testing their first nuclear weapon on Bush’s watch. It was also Iran developing a secret (weapons grade) nuclear facility on Bush’s watch.
It was Bin Laden and al Qaeda escaping on Bush’s watch. It was 9/11 on Bush’s watch.
And you attack Obama? Hypocrites.

Posted by: review | Jan 23, 2010 9:34:49 PM
It wasn’t just the North Koreans testing their first nuclear weapon on Bush’s watch. It was also Iran developing a secret (weapons grade) nuclear facility on Bush’s watch.
It was Bin Laden and al Qaeda escaping on Bush’s watch. It was 9/11 on Bush’s watch.
And you attack Obama? Hypocrites.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 23, 2010 9:38:19 PM
What would have done if you had been in Bush’s shoes?

tierra, Have you noticed how republicans now seem to project their own faults onto democrats lately?

New advisers can’t perform miracles.
They can’t turn an elitist Ivy League snob into an ordinary guy with common sense.
Obama dismissed regular hard working Americans for over a year.
Mocking townhall protesters, laughing at “people waving tea bags”, mocking Brown for driving a truck, pretending he didn’t know about Tea Parties, calling people bitter/clinging to guns.
Obama’s fake populist tone isn’t fooling anyone with common sense.
How is Plouffe going to erase a whole year?

Rick. I wish. It won’t happen due to money. As well as ignorant voters. Virtue is RIP.

Why does he need someone to articulate his plans? Isn’t he the “great communicator”? What happened? It’s not that easy to rule, is it?

The Republicans are the party of the ELITE. They are not the party of Macdonalds’ workers or anybody else struggling to get by.

When did the dot.com bubble burst? Yeah, nobody lost anything during that sham economic time. No matter. Back to the subject at hand: Obama is incompetent. He needs policy advisors, not political advisors. People need jobs, not flowery rhetoric.

Obama was fired up in Ohio.
I think he’s mad at us. We chose a plain-spoken regular guy over him, the brilliant orator.
Mad at us because we don’t understand his message.
We’re too dumb, maybe he thinks we’re ungrateful.
I bet Obama would love to tell us
“shut up, take your handouts, I know what is best for you”.

Obama was fired up in Ohio.
I think he’s mad at us.
Posted by: kandy | Jan 23, 2010 10:16:24 PM
kandy you’re basing your political beliefs on bumper sticker headlines again.
You didn’t watch the town hall or read the transcripts – it was a very positive, upbeat message and in no way did the President appear to be angry at the people.
You’re accusation is false.

The dot.com bubble was NOTHING compared with the stock market crash under Reagan – largest in history at that time.
And the dot.com bubble was NOTHING compared to the economic crash under Bush.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 23, 2010 10:07:38 PM
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You’re attempts to portray the Reagan/Bush years as some sort of dark economic period is really a hoot. How did the American voters react to the crash of ’87? They elected Reagan’s vice president to the presidency. What happened in ’87 actually started in the Asian markets and even to this day no one knows how or why it started. The DJIA actually ended up positive for the year in 1987, you can look it up.

And the dot.com bubble was NOTHING compared to the economic crash under Bush.
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Really?
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Surely you must be kidding. The economic collapse under the Bush Republicans was the largest since the Great Depression – millions of people lost their jobs, homes, health care and so on . ..
The dot.com bubble was a blip compared to the devastation when the ‘solid’ Bush economy collapsed.

Plouffe’s wife works for a large lobbying firn in Washington called the Dewey Square group.

The Republican are in no way the Elite
Group. They are the liars and deceit.
Bush and Cheney made a horrible mess
of this country and the Republicans want
to sweep it under the rug and pretend and blame President Obama.
How come Bush and Cheney are not in prison
right about now.

Pelosi summed it up in a few words. Things are said on teh campaign trail that have nothing to do once elected.
obama and the democrats did not do as they said they would. Instead, they act like the republicans they so berated.

Gee, was it really for change that Republican Brown was elected Senator for Massachusetts?
Or could it be that his sexy nude center fold in Cosmos got him elected?
And since the GOP is placing Senator Brown on a high pedistal, Are they going to change their name from the Republican Moral Conservative Party to the Republican Sex Scandal Party.

The Republican campaign: ‘Destruction through Defamation’ has worked. But there are those of us who know how to read the Republican and right wing defamation machine. Beware……

The Carter administration, is just as obsolete as the Reagan’s administration. Carters recession didn’t threaten the entire world’s economy. And the Recession lasted 2 years under Reagan, while he created 8 trillions in debt.

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to right, . . . Does it matter what any of these politicians say? Right now we have a President in training. You can’t run a country while you are busy pointing out the mistakes of the past every time you make a mistake yourself. Just get busy and work. Stop with the speeches, and the promises. Now the President is getting together his campaign team to save the dems that are up for reelection in November. For heavens sake, who cares? Concentrate on putting the country back together. What good will it do to be in constant campaign mode??? Everyone is so busy looking back over their shoulders and blaming the other guy that they are walking into walls. ENOUGH ALREADY. Stop pointing fingers at each other and work for those that elected you. Neither side is worth their weight in salt!

PJOE:….Boehner, McConnell and the rest of the GOP is NOT the President…aren’t you requesting to the wrong one? you people think you are so smart.. over the past 1 year, we know the real deal.

Re: “ARROGRANCE IS THE NEW RACIST CODE WORD”.
No, it’s not. Don’t be ridiculous. When you run on the public option and then you lie and say you never ran on the public option, that is arrogant. When you throw women’s reproductive health under the bus, that is arrogant. When you invite a bigoted homophobe like Rick Warren to give the invocation at the inauguration and throw gays who supported you under the bus, that is arrogant. When you ignore the economy and unemployment, and let Wall St run amok, and still expect the people to support you, that is arrogant.
He thinks that the Democratic base has to follow him no matter how many times he thrown us under the bus.
Yeah, right. The base abandoned him in Massachusetts!

Posing semi-nude in Cosmo is hardly a “sex scandal.” Although, I will have to say there is something sexy about a hunk who thinks the way I do. No, a sex scandal would be a guy who has an affair on his wife who has cancer, fathers a child and repeatedly lies about it for a really, really long time.
Posted by: jennifert7 ***************************
Are you talking about McCain ?

He thinks that the Democratic base has to follow him no matter how many times he thrown us under the bus.
Yeah, right. The base abandoned him in Massachusetts!
Bubbles | Jan 23, 2010 11:52:43 PM
Meanwhile, in documented reality, Obama is still quite popular with the Democratic base in MA – more popular than Coakley was (in the same poll, Obama’s approval was far higher than the number of people planning to vote for Coakley). Just a few years ago the governor for MA was Mitt Romney – elected by a statewide election in a state with a large number of independents. I don’t see the surprise of a Republican senator coming from a state that had a Republican governor just a few years ago.

So the plan is to repackage the same agenda and see if smooth talking will make it look better?

Our country is a mess because we have two parties that lie,cheat, and manipulate the hell out of us. 99.999% of politicians are one notch below child molesters. I am not being apathetic. I am speaking the truth even though I may sound extreme. I am not. I grew up around all of these rats and they are all smoke n mirrors. We don’t need politicians. What we need is a cleansing of our nation and where we need to start is with our politicians. The Clintons and the Bushes are the first treasonous rats to start with. When 95% of the wealth is controlled by 5% of the people then the Maria Antoinette Syndrome kicks in. So bring out the guillotines and let’s get to work. When we are done with these corrupted door knobs then we can start with the child molesters, TV/radio nut job personalities/ and we must not forget the religious yahoos. And it doesn’t need to be in that order. First come first served. Once the country is cleansed from all of this riff raff. Then we can start building a new nation that believes in justice, freedom, integrity, humility, hard work and in manufacturing are own goods. CHANGE!!! To have change you must completely get rid of the old and bring in the new. The Democrats and Republicans are no more then puppets for the forces of evil that manipulate and control our daily lives. A few days ago our supreme court justices gave the corporations of America carte blanc to control our future even more by allowing them to give any amount of money to any political party. “It is better to die standing than to live on my knees’. I adopted this motto many years ago that is why I have no respect for any political party or religious institute. It’s time that we USONIANS unite and fight the good fight. Forget about what party you are. There is only one people and one nation and we must all come together or become slaves.

funny thing about the fuss with Brown, the republicans still say they have a plan and know what to do… altho’ when they are in power nothing gets done save for enriching their friends.
Stock Market Crash/Great Depression: Republicans
Market Crash in the mid 80′s: Republicans
Savings & Loan Scandals 80′s: Republicans
Crash of 2008: Republicans
if it walks like a duck…

Health insurance companies are smiling all the way to the bank. Members of congrssand the senate have their retirement and insurance paid for by your tax dollars. If you don’t have health insurance- the GOP says die, we care less. So called Chriatains without morals want the country that way or you don’t get their vote. Corporations and the rich run this country, when is that going to sink in for the average joe?.

Crash of 2008- Pelosi/Reid/Frank
tell it like it is
Posted by: Charlie C
I did, …. all Republican administrations
oh yeah…. forgot Nixon & Watergate

ya gotta love republican health care sentiment
Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer has compared giving people government assistance to “feeding stray animals.”
Bauer, who is running for the Republican nomination for governor, made his remarks during a town hall meeting in Fountain Inn that included state lawmakers and about 115 residents.
“My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals. You know why? Because they breed. You’re facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply. They will reproduce, especially ones that don’t think too much further than that. And so what you’ve got to do is you’ve got to curtail that type of behavior. They don’t know any better,” Bauer said.
In South Carolina, 58 percent of students participate in the free and reduced-price lunch program.

If Obama would stop trying to transform our country into a socialist state, maybe the Democrats would fare better.
Just a thought.

Best thing Obama could do at his State of the Union speech is freeze all discretionary spending. The country’s just about broke. He should make it clear that he has zero tolerance for pork, because the country cannot afford it. State and local governments are up against the wall and have spending freezes in place. Household budgets are strapped. It’s time the fed government stopped borrowing and spending. End programs that don’t work and fire dead wood employees.

I’m so tired of everyone expecting President Obama to be able to do anything he wants to do — or blaming everything on him. That is so unfair! The Pubs focus solely on opposing him; they don’t care what’s good for the country. They just hate Obama. And a big chunk of Dems, like all the Pubs, are owned by corporations and won’t lift a finger to help the middle class.
I think Obama is doing great but most of Congress has been purchased. There are many members that do not care about us at all. They do not work for us; they work for corporations.

It’s nice to see the President focusing on the REALLY important issues of the day – re-election – rather than those pesky, nasty, nuisance issues like Afghanistan, the economy, the double-digit unemployment rate, and the divisiveness that his Administration is promoting.
Refreshing to see him back on the campaign trail, doing the only thing he really knows how to do – sell snake oil… er, I mean, “shape public opinion” by telling us that what we see is not what is true, but rather, what he says is what is true…
Who voted for the MORON anyway?

I think Obama is doing great but most of Congress has been purchased. There are many members that do not care about us at all. They do not work for us; they work for corporations.
Posted by: Marilyn | Jan 24, 2010 2:03:57 AM
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Remember what Obama said: “The buck stops here.”
You just stated the prevailing sentiment driving the Massachusetts election. It’s time to throw the bums out before the “whole enchilada” is gone.

I want everyone here yelling about Bush and the Republicans to think about it a moment. Personally, I didn’t like George Bush one bit, and voted against him both times. But the fact is that this country elected him President, not once – but twice!
So when I hear people whine about Bush and the Republicans, I wonder what rock you crawled out from. No one twisted this country’s arm – Bush was elected twice by the electorate. So say all the bad things you want about the Republicans and Bush – but he was elected by someone – where are they now?
For the past 40 years, people have loved the Republicans (off and on). They didn’t just all leave – so where are they? “We” or “We the people” elected them, so we’ve got to own up to that. I can, and I never voted that way – but I am just as at fault as anyone else.
So when it comes time to pick someone like Obama as an alternative – just remember one thing. All politicians look good when they are new. Obama looked good. At second glance – it’s looking not nearly as good as the first. Wait until a couple of years from now! Just remember, “we” elected him too.

Massachusetts was President Barack Obama’s Watergate. He’s worse than a lame duck. He’d be better off to resign like former president Richard M. Nixon did — for the good of the country.

Sounds like the Obama administration is heading for the mattresses.
Wouldn’t it be cool is the President and his staff sat down with, say the leadership of the DNC and Congress and took all this energy to re asses their policies?
It would take some humility and that may be a tall order but a little soul searching tends to lay the ground work for what might be a real effort to redefine themselves.
How about a few suggestions on issues that might just be what lies at the base of the anger from the American public?
Trashing the current health care package and actually having CSPAN as a constant presence at the debate.
Reviewing the wasteful, non productive spending of the Stimulus bill and redirecting the balance of the funds to known ways in which the economy will both be stimulated and create jobs?
How about prioritizing the National agenda so we are focus on the economy first and then phasing in things like Healthcare?
How about taking a real look at the budget and actually take a line by line look at the earmarks and cutting them?
How about not trying to ram rod the democratic agenda on us “for our own good” and let us decide how to run our lives?
How about some real bi partisanship?
How about the President stopping this constant pitching across the world and start governing?
There are others but these are a few that come to mind.

Maybe they could blame Bush after 1 year continue to blame Bush. Get real fools are running the country fools and the party of death. Murder of the babies in the womb. Old people will be next. Dem party no death party yes.

Republicans: — Run great campaigns. Many Democrats won congressional and statewide races in 2006 and 2008 with ideal conditions. Some races could have been won with mediocre campaigns. Not this year. Republican campaigns can leave no stone unturned, from believing in the power of grass-roots volunteers and voter registration, to using technology and data innovatively, to raising money — especially with big corporate interests now freed up to dump hundreds of millions of dollars to elect those who will do their bidding. Republican candidates must do everything well. Each one must make sure that the first-time voters from 2008 living in your state or district — more than 15 million nationwide — are in their sights. Build a relationship with those voters, organize them and educate them. On Nov. 2, many races are sure to be decided by just a few thousand if not a few hundred votes. These voters can make the difference. We have to show them that the January 19th votes for Scott Brown mattered, and defeating health insurance reform is one way to start. Republicans must try extra hard to defeat ACORN, SEIU and the other left-wing liberal special interest groups who will cheat to win any way they can.

franotovic,
If anything, the MA results are an indication that people are fed up with the corporate friendly policies of the Obama administration.
Polls show that most voters, including Brown voters, want health care reform. They are upset that the current plans in congress do not go far enough.

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It is called Health Care Reform. Reform because it is changing the way corupt insurance companies do business by forcing them to abide by rules.
The insurance companies are fighting it by spreading lies.
One lie is that the bill is Health Care.

tierra … Give it up. Conservatives are not interested in the truth. They just make stuff up as they go along. Only their hate counts.

Massachusetts was President Barack Obama’s Watergate. He’s worse than a lame duck. He’d be better off to resign like former president Richard M. Nixon did — for the good of the country.
Posted by: hueygunner *************************
Could you please explain your comparison.

I found it interesting to do a search on Wikipedia for the election results starting back in 1960 (“United States presidential election, 1960″).
1960: Kennedy beat Nixon that year, but it was pretty close, and the country map shows a pretty even divide between the two major political parties that seem to dominated the scene of late.
1964: The Democrats beat Goldwater pretty handily – one might have surmised as much, in the wake of Kennedy’s assassination the year prior, so the map was almost entirely blue.
1968: The nation had grown weary of the war in Vietnam, and Johnson’s escalation of that conflict, so Nixon pretty handily beat both Humphrey and Wallace, so the map appears predominately red.
1972: One wonders why the Democrats even fielded McGovern – Nixon creamed him (520 electoral votes to 17 for McGovern), with the map now entirely blue, with the lone exception of Ted Kennedy’s Massachusetts.
1976: Nixon resigned shortly after that election in the wake of Watergate, and Ford lost a close bid for re-election to Jimmy Carter, with the map pretty much 50:50 red and blue, and split east to west – most likely a result of vote AGAINST the GOP as punishment for Watergate than FOR Carter.
1980: Four years of Carter were enough, combined with the 444-day Iranian hostage debacle that he mismanaged both politically and militarily – Reagan slaughtered Carter (489 to 49 electoral votes, though Carter did carry his peanut state), with the map once again almost entirely red.
1984: Once again, why did the Democrats even waste their time with Mondale. Reagan creamed him as well (525 to 13 electoral votes), with Mondale’s Minnesota being his lone victory – and the map almost entirely red again.
1988: On the coattails of Reagan, then VP-Bush beat Dukakis (426 to 111 electoral votes), and again, the map mostly red.
1992: After a poor showing in the debates (Bush looked as if he didn’t even really want the job anymore), Slick Willy Clinton beat Bush (370 to 168 electoral votes), with the map about 50:50 red and blue.
1996: Clinton beat Dole, carrying both coasts (where most of the electoral votes lie) and a streak in the center – the map still about 50:50 red and blue
2000: Who can forget the hanging chads? Bush beat Gore by one of the narrowest of margins in recent history (271 to 266 electoral votes), though the map was far more red than blue – had Gore been able to carry his home state of Tennessee, he’d have won the election.
2004: Bush beat Kerry, but again, another “squeaker,” (286 to 251 electoral votes), though the map predominately red again.
2008: Yeah, we all hated Bush, and we took it out on McCain (just like we took our hatred of Nixon out on the GOP in 1976). Obama beat McCain pretty handily (365 to 173 electoral votes).
2012: If history repeats itself, I predict the results will look much like it did after Jimmy Carter’s Administration. We put Carter into office because we hated Nixon, and he failed – Reagan literally walked away with the next election. We put Obama into office because we hated Bush, and he’s clearly failing too.
I just wish instead of us swinging back and forth between red and blue, we went predominately orange (Independent) in 2012.

It will take more than a political arm beef up to save this Congressional majority. Because the solution is not political. Pelosi and Reid, every day you discuss stupid ideas like reconciliation, is a day the majority party falls further from grace. If you foolishly ignore those in the middle, you will be removed from office. You can damn well bet on it.

Conservatives have pretty much destroyed this country. They cannot admit it to others or themselves. They sing their lies and attempt to rewrite history, but history is there for all to see. Obama is destroying the country they scream in their shrill fear laden voices, exuding racism and hate with every uttered word. What they cannot face is that the conservative ideology failed totally, and they have yet to come up with anything better.
They want the American people to elect them on the same policy structure and philosophy that bought us the financial melt down, two wars, foreign relations disaster, 20% real unemployment, the highest poverty level since 1937, and corporations run amok.
Conservatives have deluded themselves in thinking they are “the people”. They have no problems ignoring anything that does not support their stand, and assigns any disagreement to their policy as liberal lies. They live a life of self adulation and hatred for all things different.

jennerfit… Because the version being voted on did not contain the public option.

Some time-line corrections:
1980: Four years of Carter were enough, combined with the 444-day Iranian hostage debacle that he mismanaged both politically and militarily – Reagan slaughtered Carter
–Never being above deceit for political gain Reagan undermined Carter’s efforts by wheeling and dealing with the hostage takers behind Carter’s back.
Bush beat Gore by one of the narrowest of margins in recent history (271 to 266 electoral votes), though the map was far more red than blue–No, the map was more blue than red, unless you want to count the thousands of square miles of wheatfields in the mid-west that voted for Bush.

Obama’s actions here signal that there will be no change in his approach to governance, only a change in the spin and marketing of programs that most of America does not want.
This is just another punch to the face of America to beat us into submission. However the fight lessons we have learned will carry us through.

“Polls show that most voters, including Brown voters, want health care reform. ”
Here is the perfect example of deaf, dumb and blind. Coakley was for Obama’s agenda, including health care. Brown was clear that ObamaCare was not good for his state nor the nation. Brown won. Claro!
I can only hope that the point of view of “Flash Override” continues to be echoed by the current administration and Democrats in Congress.

“This is just another punch to the face of America to beat us into submission”
Oh, now Obama is beating up America. How far will this pathetic right-wing victimization go? I’ll get out my microscopic violin.

“Clinton’s deregulation of the mortgage industry paled in comparison to Bush’s.”
Absolutely false. Feel free to prove otherwise.
Clinton directed Andrew Cuomo to inject sub-prime mortgages into GSE’s. He then pressured Fannie and Freddie to relax credit standards.
Then Cuomo sued Accubanc in 1998 because it was not making enough bad loans.
Jim Johnson falsified the value of MBS’s.
Democrats repeatedly blocked the creation of a regulator for Fannie and Freddie.
Democrats blocked limiting the size of portfolios bought by Fannie and Freddie.
In 2001 Greg Mankiw said if the economy went south government would have to bail out the industry.
In 2004 Barney Frank said there was no crisis at Fannie and Freddie. Raines was cooking the books.
The credit crisis is almost entirely at the feet of Democrats.

Have President Obama and the Democrats ever stopped campaigning since the 2008 election??? Town halls, interviews, speeches,…..it’s ridiculous. All they care about is the next election, campaign donations, etc. How about jobs Mr President? How about focusing on this for a change? How about letting private business create jobs and get our economy back on track? How about no more spending? How about no more TRILLION dollar health care bill, cap & trade bill? No, it’s politics as usual from this bunch.

Posted by: drjohn | Jan 24, 2010 9:34:52 AM
You were only able to mention Freddie and Frannie. Most of the sub-prime mortgages were written in the private sector after Bush allowed the Fed to turn a blind eye to all the extremely risky mortgages being written for just about anybody. Freddie and Frannie intentionally avoided unconventional mortgages. The value of the mortgages you have cited cannot account for the size of the housing bubble. -But I think you know that.

“Freddie and Frannie intentionally avoided unconventional mortgages.”
The sub-prime market is hardly conventional.
The chief salesperson?
The illustrious Penny Pritzker.
Raines securitized the bad loans. Had a regulator been created, the whole disaster could have been avoided.
Like Barney Fwank says, Fannie and Freddie are policy arms of the government.
It was the plan all along.

This was a good post by somebody that I sometimes re-post:
“In 2004 while the Republican Party had control and chairmanships of the Banking Committees the Securities and Exchange Commission The SEC waived its leverage rules. Previously, broker/dealer net-capital rules limited firms to a maximum debt-to-net-capital ratio of 12 to 1. This 2004 exemption allowed them to exceed this leverage rule. Only five firms — Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and Morgan Stanley — were granted this exemption; they promptly levered up 20, 30 and even 40 to 1.
The Republican controlled congressional banking committees held no oversight hearings on this change”
Any of those names of firms sound familiar?

Someone else did. In 2005, John McCain co-sponsored the “Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act,” which among other things provided for more oversight of Freddie & Fannie. The bill didn’t pass. Guess who blocked it?

Clinton forced banks into taking on $1 trillion in sub-prime mortgages.
Not small potatoes.

The problem is that Obama perceives recent events as a political problem, and not one related to performance and policies. So, one would fix the problem by improving, not policy and performance, but image and appearances. It looks like the voters are starting to be able to see the clear difference between change and charades. It seems disingenuous to keep referring to the “Bush legacy”, rather than take ownership of a largely failed first year in office. Bailouts produced little to nothing, jobs are still off, Congress continues to spend money we owe the Chinese for things we do not want, and cannot afford. The health plan clearly shafts older Medicare recipients and proposes large tax increases during terrible financial times. Continuing to campaign as a strategy to hold midterm elections and 2012 elections simply will not work.

err 1964

Is Gitmo closed yet?
Posted by: drjohn | Jan 24, 2010 10:00:13 AM
“One year after signing an executive order to close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Facility today, Mister Obama finds himself where Bush was in two key respects: he intends to close the prison but can’t say when; he will hold dozens of suspected terrorists in custody without trial.” FoxNews, 1/22/10

“After they got the House in 2007 Democrats passed regulations on Freddie and Frannie.”
Which legislation?

Financial bubbles are similar to Ponzi schemes as they finance long-term debt with short-term deposits. I think it was the infamous Greenspan who said “the human race has never found a way to confront bubbles.” The government, especially the Fed, should warn against financial bubbles such as stock, housing and other markets as they arise. Hedge fund managers might then fear personal liability for mismanagement of funds if the public was more aware.
Instead we have a grossly incompetent government and a Fed that is kowtowing to government spending. The current bubble is the government which now borrows 40 cents of every dollar spent. Obama and his congress spend with impunity TARP, stimulus and cash for clunkers are all losers and add to long term debt. Democrats resist using TARP repayment to pay down the deficit, they see it as off budget funds like the social security trust fund.
In the midst of such governmental fiscal responsibility Obama is doing what? He is glibly campaigning for healthcare even suggesting that it will somehow control long-term debt. But is there any truth to this suggestion? Senator Harkin has openly admitted that the bill is but a foundation to build on and we well know how politicians can build public debt.
There are others that say pass any kind of healthcare reform that anything is better than nothing, but is that true? To pass any healthcare bill at all is but to invite an incompetent congress to spend and spend in attempt to fix or add pork to a limited bill. The only reasonable solution would be to pass no healthcare bill at all and address the real proble the government spending bubble.
Current attempts are in progress to raise the debt ceiling another two trillion dollars. It was just raised to $12.4 trillion so this would mean a new ceiling of $14.4 trillion. The CBO warned the $12 trillion level to be unsustainable so what would Obama and his congress do, raise it even more. Such action is incomprehensible but what should we expect from officials that choose to ignore their constituency. Ignore it even after the rebellion in Massachusetts!
When the government bubble bursts the dollar will be trashed and retirement and savings accounts worthless. There will be unrest in the streets. In a Newsmax column that has since been pulled John L. Perry suggests, “ There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America’s military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the ‘Obama problem.’ Don’t dismiss it as unrealistic.” Perry also wrote, ‘Military intervention is what Obama’s exponentially accelerating agenda for “fundamental change” toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama’s radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible.’
This is serious talk but how much longer can the government continue to spend, even going beyond borrowing 40 cents of every dollar spent? What happens when we cross borrowing 50% of every dollar spent, in the end all Ponzi schemes fail. When this Ponzi scheme fails healthcare will be a moot point indeed! GOOOH has a plan worthy of supporting to clean the House in the midterm elections this fall, but will the bubble hold that long?

Plouffe’s wife works for the lobbying firm Dewey Quarter Group . ANother lobbyist in the Obama administration!!

Obama’s problem was and is simple, he’s full of hot air and clearly a year later we all see that fact and his BS machine will only make it worse.

The White House Political Machine…. for this adminstration that means garbage trucks and manure spreaders. It’s gonna be deep and ugly, so get your boots on. Just ask Hillary what they hit her with in 2008.

Plouffe’s wife works for the lobbying firm Dewey Square Group they represent Blue Cross, Countrywide, GM, Purdue Pharma, United Health.. Obama is a FRAUD!

Someone answer this for me?
Who is funding these so-called WH appointments. Do they work for the WH or for the Dem’s? Are the taxpayers funding this political action arm?
I have a problem with this being run out of The People’s Office. Wouldn’t you?

Axelrod:
“There’s no reinventing messages here.
There will be no reinventing the president. There’s no need to”
Wrong answer.
Obama is finished.
They learned absolutely nothing from the Massachusetts election.

Obama just doesn’t get it that is why he will not be reelected for a second term. This president has a problem and that is he has never done anything other than get elected president by lying to the American people. It has taken a year for America to figure this out, because we hoped he was different, but alas he is worst than all of them and if you can imagine even Jimmy Carter who was awful.
You would think that being the first black man to be elected to the office of President of the United States he would raise to the occasion. Instead we elected an arrogant self involved person who cares not one wit about us.
Obama has turned every important aspect of his job to liberals (who think like him) to manage everything. Just a few examples: Holder who called “America is a country of cowards” Pelosi one of the most hated and dislike person in Congress just following Reid for that title, there just too many to name.
Obama has not kept any of the many promises he made to us, not one!
He continues to blame Bush and will the next 3 years. Obama perhaps the greatest quarter back in our county has himself never accomplished anything other fooling Americans with one lie after another, in other words promise them any thing and give them nothing.
Democrats hate any one who disagrees with them as though they have lock on what is right and wrong and those who disagree are stupid or worst.
We should have elected Colin Powell, but Colin would not sell out for that Job.
We need a third party the Independent Party of America the Dems and Republicans no longer deserve to lead our country. We certainly need term limits, if a President can only serve eight years why do we need Franks, Reid, Dodd, Pelosi, etc. forever or until they die?

Logic is the key to figuring out what is happening. Republicans have figured out that spin (i.e. lies) is the way to obscure reality and get people to turn against our new administration. The old administration created all this strife and trouble over an eight year period. Too many people have decided that President Obama must become a magician and solve everything. Well, guess what? The problems are too big and too ingrained to solve that quickly. First, you have to have the true will and desire to change them. Do republicans? I give you a resounding NO. Yes, there is corruption and exceptions everywhere but to turn on the people who are trying to change things just because they couldn’t do it in a year?? Is that the answer? Is voting for republicans already one year after giving them a sharp message the answer? Maybe our new President should have focused first and foremost on jobs. Maybe he is but the media was more focused on the healthcare issue. Remember healthcare for fellow hardworking Americans was also an issue he ran on. People are scared and hurting but don’t make the huge mistake of biting the hand that wants to help you and trusting those who had plenty of time to help if they wanted to but instead chose to dip us into a quagmire that all must now join together and struggle out of. It’s not easy but don’t be blindly thrash about. Think.

In May 2007 Democrats passed Housing Finance Reform Act hr1427 regulating Frannie and Freddie. Many Republicans voted against it.
Posted by: Skip | Jan 24, 2010 11:41:41 AM
Republicans (and GWB) supported the GSE regulation in HR1427 but wanted to “ensure that the funds were delivered more efficiently and effectively to their intended beneficiaries–extremely low-income Americans in desperate need of decent affordable housing options”.
The Bachus amendment tied the funds to the 1989 Affordable Housing Program which so the Federal Home Loan Banks would make sure that – by law – 10 percent of their profits to affordable housing projects.

“From the dissenting opinion on HR1427:”
You can go on at length about the pros and cons of Hr1427 if you care to; my only intention in mentioning it was to dispel the bumper-sticker myth that Republicans wanted to curb Freddie and Frannie and Democrats did not. Both wrote bills; neither actually signed any regulations into law.

Hey, I have an idea. How about quit thinking about campaigning, and START WORKING!

The Democratic Party got a resounding wake-up call from the voters of Massachusetts on Tuesday. But it’s long been clear that 2010 would be a challenging election year for their party which traditionally has credibility problems when scrutinized closely during times they are the majority.
With few exceptions, the first off-year election in a new president’s term has led to big gains for the minority party — this was true for Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. After two election cycles in which Democrats won most of the close races and almost all of the big ones, Democrats have much more fragile turf to defend this year than usual. Add to that a historic economic crisis, stubborn unemployment and the pain that both have inflicted on millions of Americans, plus the astounding lack of integrity, smugness and incredible arrogance displayed by Democrat office holders which has resulted in a voter backlash propelled by fear and loathing never before seen among any constituency, and you have a recipe for a white-knuckled ride for many of left-wing liberal candidates.
This would not have happened if Democrats did what the American people sent them to Washington to do. It now seems that positive change for the mass of Americans is impossible on the Democrats’ watch.

“Much if not all of that could have been prevented by a bill cosponsored by John McCain and supported by all the Republicans and opposed by all the Democrats in the Senate Banking Committee in 2005.” Michael Barone, 10/6/08″
Do you have any opinions of your own? I’m not going to spend all afternoon arguing with Michael Barone. Who had the majority on the Senate Banking Committee at the time? If your answer turns out to be “Republicans” then Mr Barone will be hard pressed to explain why they didn’t pass it out of committee.

TRUTH…..IS IMPORTANT……COKIE ROBERTS…”ON THIS WEEK WITHOUT GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS” PUT IT AS BEST AS ANYONE COULD……………..”THE DEMOCRATS RODE A HUGE WAVE OF POLITICAL DISCONTENT, AND NOW THAT SAME WAVE IS CRASHING OVER THEIR HEADS”……………….
MISS ROBERTS!!!! QUOTE OF THE WEEK..LOL. THIS IS THE ULTIMATE TRUTH OF WHAT HAPPENED THIS WEEK IN MASSACHUSETTS…….. SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS MY SCREEN RESOLUTION MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SEE SMALL LETTERS….

Who had the majority on the Senate Banking Committee at the time? If your answer turns out to be “Republicans” then Mr Barone will be hard pressed to explain why they didn’t pass it out of committee.
Posted by: Skip | Jan 24, 2010 12:37:45 PM
“In the summer of 2005, a bill emerged from the Senate Banking Committee that considerably tightened regulations on Fannie and Freddie, including controls over their capital and their ability to hold portfolios of mortgages or mortgage-backed securities. All the Republicans voted for the bill in committee; all the Democrats voted against it. To get the bill to a vote in the Senate, a few Democratic votes were necessary to limit debate.” -WSJ 10/15/08
No Democrats “stepped forward” including Senator Obama, ‘wrote a letter’…

Plouffe?s wife is a lobbyist with the Dewey Square Group. A lobbyist firm that represents Countrywide, Dupont, United Health, Blue Cross…..Didn’t Obama say that he was NOT going to allow lobbyist in HIS White House?

On who’s dime has Obama regathered the “Dream Team”? Whrere does he get off. And more importantly, why isn’t Jake Taper hosting The Round Table?

“Fannie and Freddie spewed out $1 trillion worth (face value) of subprime mortgages between 2005 and 2007. That’s a whole lot of toxic waste.” -Michael Barone, 10/6/08″
What did Michael say was the total value of all the sub-prime mortgages written by all the lending institutions in the private sector during this time? -More Freddie and Frannie tunnel vision.
Posted by: Skip | Jan 24, 2010 12:48:42 PM
Apparently, Skip, you don’t see the unethical behavior in dumping $1 trillion in toxic loans while Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Maxine Waters and their fellow conspirators at Fannie & Freddie deny on record that there’s a problem and pass through these organizations collecting huge bonuses on their way out the door. Interesting that these Democrats stonewalled long enough for the bad loans to be distributed until it all came crashing down. How much more would they have dumped out if they were able to get away with it?
But if you want to defend them, knock yourself out.

Obama is getting back into campaign mode? I dont think thats what the country needs. The agenda needs changing, not Obama’s image.

Is the misleading use of “Mass.” in the title intensional ?

Tap dance?

I hear Barney Frank wants to abandon ship. What a loser.

===If your answer turns out to be “Republicans” then Mr Barone will be hard pressed to explain why they didn’t pass it out of committee.===
Isn’t it because they needed one democrat to vote to pass it out of committee?

the ‘dumping’ of by far even more toxic loans in the private sector
Posted by: Skip | Jan 24, 2010 1:31:17 PM
Please be more specific about the “toxic loans in the private sector” vs. those held by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that were eventually dumped. Do you have any documentation to support this? How much? Held by whom? Dumped where?

Face facts we elected a LOSER . . .
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You’re elegant analysis speaks for itself. Loser.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 24, 2010 2:31:12 PM
Please list Obama’s accomplishments so far (other than the ‘he brought us back from the brink’ bullet point).

I want every bit of dirt you folks can come up with on Plueffe…I want dirt on him, his wife, his friends and so forth…thank you in advance for this venture..

I want every bit of dirt you folks can come up with on Plueffe…I want dirt on him, his wife, his friends and so forth…thank you in advance for this venture..
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Gotta love the Republicans – “let’s look for a good smear campaign we can use.” The Republican slogan should be “Lowering the Quality of Politics in America for Over 40 Years’.

I suspect we’ll see a broad bi-partisan coalition form to try to set some kind of limits on the amount of money corporations, unions and other special interests groups are allowed to spend on political advertising.

re: “Please be more specific about the “toxic loans in the private sector” vs. those held by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that were eventually dumped.”
Fannie and freddie made bad loans, but they didn’t dump them on investors, as Fannie and Freddie are not brokerage houses. Furthermore, Fannie and Freddie combined made 16% of all the bad loans.
The private sector made the majority of them, and then they bundled them and sold them to investors.
The government needs to bring back Glass Steagall, which used to prevent these kinds of abuses. Anything short of that, such as a fee on banks, is just putting a band aid on the problem.

Osama Bin Laden, the al-Qaeda leader, has warned Barack Obama, the US president, that there will be further attacks on the United States unless he takes steps to resolve the Palestinian situation.
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“today, the Dow is UP; the Nasdaq is UP”
Tierra, why in the world do you think stocks are up? Haven’t you heard that companies have laid off by the thousands to keep profitable?
And why in the world would anyone brag about rail travel that is kept alive by so much in subsidies when in reality buses would work just as well.
Paying more than you have to for anything doesn’t make sense. Solar power is a great idea…if it is competitive with other sources of energy and if companies learn that they can count on the Government to keep their profits up they’ll be slower in getting the cost dowm.
I think the President is doing the best he can with what he has to work with and what he was left with but he could do better with a better team around him, a team with experience in the real world instead of simple ideology.

You know what, after 60 years of being under the control of the Kennedys, mayge they were looking for change. But I still have not heard of ONE idea or plan to help lead our nation to a better life from the GOP.

You know what, after 60 years of being under the control of the Kennedys, mayge they were looking for change. But I still have not heard of ONE idea or plan to help lead our nation to a better life from the GOP.
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“But I still have not heard of ONE idea or plan to help lead our nation to a better life from the GOP.”
I agree the GOP ideas are few and far between.
Mostly its just attack and smear campaigns against Obama and the Democrats.

Skip,
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the GOP don;t like unions because they suck the life out of entrepreneurs – Once someone has mortgaged their life in order to start a business, and make a profit from that risk, the “unions” come along and feel like they are entitled to EQUAL profit, absent of course any risk other than showing up.
And you gotta love those unionized floor sweepers that make $40/hour… I mean, what would the world be without a clean floor?

And there’re MANY more:
A Village in Kenya is Missing Its Idiot
ObamaCare – We’ll Pull The Plug On Grandma
Real Change: 01/20-2013
Blame Obama
Sorry Yet?
Enjoy The Lines at the Post Office? Enjoy ObamaCare
Honk If I Bailed You Out
Obama: Joker-In-Chief
It’s Hype, Not Hope
He’s Laughing AT You, Not With You!
We Could Have Had A Hero, Instead We Got Zero
Yes We Can… Fool America
Obama Will Buy It For You
Hide Your Change – Obama is Coming

Here is the way it is. Obama is nothing more than a blank canvass. Hope and Chang was the first painting. Now, after Massachusetts, the artists, Axelrod, Jarrett, Soros, et.al have made a nwe painting. The first glimpses were the rushed unscheduled over the top “Bank reform ” tirade. No ratioal Preident uses “Fat Cat” or “I am ready for a fight” Chavez like rhetoic without a strategy to pit Americans against each other to excite a frothing left base. The State of the Union, now devoid of any accomplishments to brag about, will cynically attempt to channel what these radicals incorrectly feel is populist outrage and anger. The anger is strictly directed against Obama-Pelosi-Reid etc and their misreading of Obama’s mandate.Post partisa is and never was any realist. The partisanship is about to be put on hormones, and I suspect Obama will become Father Coughlin in railing against evil greedy bankers. The markets will shrink in fear, and a second financial crisis will arrive. This may be the administrations goal.In any event, buck your seat belt, Sprock has turned into Clingon.

Most of your critics are center left! Get used to it!
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Mostly its the typical Karl Rove, Lee Atwater approach the Republicans have adapted as pretty much their only tactic – attack and smear the opposition. Right wing Republican.

Obama…is one trick pony….incapable of learning the lesson Bay Staters…New Jersey and Virginia voters have attempted to teach him…..HIS EGO is bigger than his intellect
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Come on, you’ve got to have something more than just the personal attacks and smear campaign?

Think that Obama is now attempting to close the barn door after all of the cows have ‘left the building’! What politician is going to rely on Obama after NJ, VA, and MA? Talk to them! They will avoid Obama like H1N1! He has become toxic after a year. For Pete’s sake, he cannot continue to talk down business, and have a ‘commercial business enemy of the month’ throughout the year, and then expect businesses to hire folks with Obamacare, Cap & Trade, and increased taxes hanging over their heads!
Obama had an opportunity a year ago that no president in recent history enjoyed. HE BLEW IT!

cramos, Nevermind the republicans were in charge during the time this went crazy, huh? So, if Bush was in charge and they knew this was going on, they had the power to put a stop to it. Since I don’t think this housing bubble was all the fault of fannie and freddie I’ll forgive what you say here though. Just saying, if you’re in charge of the ship don’t try to blame it on those working for you.

When the economic crash started in 2008, Bush called it just ‘a rough patch’ and fiddled while Rome burned.
He has no one to blame but himself and his advisors. This was not ‘a rough patch’ – it was a major economic collapse.

When the economic crash started in 2008, Bush called it just ‘a rough patch’ and fiddled while Rome burned.
And Obama golfs.
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The difference being Bush was asleep during the beginnings of the largest economic crash since the Great Depression. He fiddled while the country headed for the precipice – and did nothing to stop it. We’ve all seen the result of his administration being COMPLETELY wrong about how the economy was just hitting ‘a rough patch’.

A year ago, confetties roamed the streets of America, millions cheering on the blind hopes of an inexperienced, indecisive Mr. Obama. A year later, the confetties are in the garbage and many of those milllions who had been cheering are now crying because they are still unemployed.

“He has no one to blame but himself and his advisors. This was not ‘a rough patch’ – it was a major economic collapse.”
History repeats itself.

“He has no one to blame but himself and his advisors. This was not ‘a rough patch’ – it was a major economic collapse.”
History repeats itself.
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Interestingly enough – the last major collapse was under Reagan in 1987. The biggest stock market crash in history at the time.

To state that President Bush did nothing to stop the economic meltdown is only half true. He didn’t do enough when, seeing problems developing, he asked Congress to look in to Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae in ’07, but cries of racism from Barney and company made him back off and the Dems were in control. At least Barney’s special friend got rich at Fannie Mae.

Interestingly enough – the last major collapse was under Reagan in 1987. The biggest stock market crash in history at the time
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And Barry has learned nothing…

“Interestingly enough – the last major collapse was under Reagan in 1987. The biggest stock market crash in history at the time.”
So when Barry and the libs screw up, you mention a POTUS from the 80′s. Tru to form…

“Bush made numerous attempts to warn congress about probable problems with the loan programs, but, yes Frank and friends would not give Bush the time of day”
So actually writing and passing legislation is not giving Bush the time of day huh? This intentional ignorance is pathetic.

Obama bailed out his friends–the ones who helped get him elected, and left the people to fend for themselves.
I guess that’s how Obama “took on” the sprecial interest.
It’s amazing that so many still believe his nonsense.

Obama bailed out his friends–the ones who helped get him elected, and left the people to fend for themselves.
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Wow. Right wing lie after right wing lie.
There are $288 Billion in tax cuts in the Recovery and Reinvestment act, unemployment insurance monies to help people who have lost their jobs, help for people who lost their health care coverage due to losing their jobs, help for states so they can make their pay rolls – monies that end up saving jobs for police, firefighters, teachers, support for lunch programs for children, . .. .
To say Obama “left the people to fend for themselves” is a complete lie and propaganda of the worst kind.

WHY HASN’T FANNIE AND FREDDIE PAID BACK THE BAILOUT MONEY AS MOST OF THE OTHER LARGE BANKS HAVE – WITH INTEREST????

A year ago, Mr. Obama promised that he will not rest until those who seek a job will find it, that he will not rest to keep America safe, amidst millions of blind followers who clenched their fist in the air and yelled out in unison that change will be coming. A year later, golf, basketball, expensive restaurant dates, seaside resort Haiwaiian vacation filled the agendas, amidst 2 terrorist attempts, record unemployments and a devastating earthquake in Haiti. Those clenched fists now becomes folded hands in prayer.

No, they just stick confidential documents in their pants, chase interns around the Oval Office, and give Underwear Bombers rights of citizens.
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Surprise, surprise . .. more smear attacks.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 24, 2010 7:28:35 PM
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Since when is citing historical fact a smear tactic?

“The Bush appointee was James B. Lockhart, a classmate of Bush at Andover and Yale, as well as a loyal campaign contributor. ”
So if he was so bad, why did Obama keep Lockhart in his administration?

Let me guess . . . the “new” team will be using the old playbook of ‘blame Bush’, dividing social classes, poking the hornets nest of race relations, broad brush accusations of large corporations, fear mongering about the environment . . . etc. etc. etc.
This is why America is tired of the Democrats. Old outdated arguments from the 1920′s, fear mongering about the planet, pointing fingers at everyone else, and the systematic dismantling of our nation’s heritage, market system, and values to replace them with a Hugo Chavez prototype.
This isn’t the change America wanted, but more of the same is all we’ll get with the Democrats because they cling tightly to their outdated playbook.

Since when is citing historical fact a smear tactic?
Posted by: Woody | Jan 24, 2010 7:33:47 PM
When it’s viewed by an Obamaton. “Take me to your leader.”

Are you blaming Reagan for the ’87 collapse?
Posted by: Woody | Jan 24, 2010 7:38:20 PM
The 1987 Whittier Narrows earthquake struck the southern San Gabriel Valley and surrounding communities of southern California at 7:42 a.m. (PDT) on October 1, 1987. Was that Reagan’s fault too? Cause my chandelier broke and I’ve been wondering to whom I should send the bill.

This isn’t the change America wanted,
Posted by: EPU | Jan 24, 2010 7:40:43 PM
No, it’s not. They thought they were getting a New World with Obama. Utopia. Turns out they got the same old politics as usual. Now they’re choking on it and looking for someone to blame for being so naive.
I’m still waiting for tierra to list Obama’s real accomplishments for the first year (other than the ‘brought us back from the brink’ bullet point).

Most of the news media, the entertainment media, academia and public sector employees got Obama elected. Doesn’t reflect too well on them does it.

for the record, you will be waiting alooooooooong time if you’re waiting for tierra to answer that
According to some there are an awful lot of people writing”lettors to the editor” all over the country, stating “facts” of the Obama administration.
Sounds like a concentrated effort on behalf of the President.

Yeah, more politics… that will help. Don’t change the message… the message is good… just change the spin! This Administration is in way over it’s head . It would be funny, if they weren’t causing so much damage. Can we all now agree that ideological purity when practiced by either party is not a good thing. Pragmatism and some common sense would be a welcome change.

No, they just stick confidential documents in their pants, chase interns around the Oval Office, and give Underwear Bombers rights of citizens.
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Surprise, surprise . .. more smear attacks.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 24, 2010 7:28:35 PM
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Since when is citing historical fact a smear tactic?
Posted by: Woody | Jan 24, 2010 7:33:47 PM
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It would be unfair to let you guys have all the fun so:
Republicans secretly make deals to support terrorists, toe tap in airport stalls and start expensive wars without paying for them or volunteering to go fight them.

Republicans secretly make deals to support terrorists, toe tap in airport stalls and start expensive wars without paying for them or volunteering to go fight them.
Posted by: Skip | Jan 24, 2010 8:42:55 PM
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Hmmm. Deals to support terrorists? Can you be more specific? Toe tapping, was that Barney Frank? No, Frank was just running a brothel out of his appartment. And expensive wars? Do you mean Viet Nam?

“Deals to support terrorists? Can you be more specific? Toe tapping, was that Barney Frank? No, Frank was just running a brothel out of his appartment. And expensive wars? Do you mean Viet Nam?”
No, No and No. You’re not doing too well there. But you’re just playing dumb–I know. If not I’ll post the answers after the game.

The Vikings are losing…….must be Bush’s fault…….

Woody, you have to forgive Barney for the brothel incident..that simply means he’s a closet capitalist. What I cannot forgive is his mismangement of Fannie and Freddie ..maybe it was simply too distracting for him to have to use the words Freddie and Fannie in the same sentence and try to stay focused on housing issues.

I have nothing but respect for the consistency of some posters. Yes, it gets old hearing that Reagan’s poll numbers fell to 35% in his first terms and unemployment hit 10.8% not to mention the evil that is President Bush and the “ever smearing” RNC.
The best part is that some posters have their place in the sun and – though in my view, obviously wrong – I am glad they are here saying their piece. Fact is sometimes when we get past the same drumming of 35%/10.8%/Right-Smear there is a decent point. Its rare but it is worth the wait.

The fact the White House is turning to Plouffe seems to indicate that they believe they’re dealing with image problem rather than an unpopular agenda. This is a mistake, and one that will cost them.
There is a curious irony here in that the mythos of candidate Obama has largely evaporated. In its place the new image is emerging, one eloquent and affable Chicago boss, a velvet glove that masks the brass knuckle operations in the back room. He charms us, consoles us–even inspires us at times. Meanwhile, behind the scenes, the machine just keeps going, crushing everything in its path.
I wish you luck Mr. Plouffe. Re-running the old strategy will not work. Your brand has changed.

It’s interesting watching Obama and his Bad News Bears Club throw excessive attention to the Mass. elections. Their uneasiness is a bit transparent of who they are: power hungry, condescending, and controlling dictators who see their positions as “opportunities” to recreate the nation into their own image and likeness. They are completely and thoroughly unable to see their positions as one of serving the people because they are blinded by their mad quest for power.

“Deals to support terrorists? Can you be more specific? Toe tapping, was that Barney Frank? No, Frank was just running a brothel out of his appartment. And expensive wars? Do you mean Viet Nam?”
The answers are:
Iran-Contra
Larry Craig
Iraq
The Larry Craig one was kind of a trap and ol’ Woody may have walked right into it by countering with Barney Frank though it could possibly have been cowinkie-dink. I don’t criticize Larry Craig because he’s gay, I criticize him just because he tried to pick up people in a bathroom when he’s married. It’s not hard to shame many Republicans into expressing hidden homophobia however.

It seems America is thirsty for heroes. Mark McGwire‎ cheated on the game of baseball, but not on his wife. Tiger Woods cheated on his wife but not on the game of golf. Mr. Obama cheated not on the game of basketball or golf, but on the American people.

“Where did you get the notion that Republicans don’t volunteer to serve in the military to fight?”
I didn’t get that notion because they do. It’s just that the number of them that do is insignificant compared to the number of eligible military age Republicans who claimed to support the war and voted Republican throughout but never summoned the courage to volunteer to go over there and fight it. Instead we force mothers who did a stint in the National Guard years ago to go over there. I find that incredibly shameful.

It’s really funny that the guys that got Mr. Obama elected are the “smartest” guys around. The fact is they benefited from an adoring press that refused to hold them accountable for the virtually unlimited money flowing in from God knows where, or to properly vet their candidate for the American people… If the game is rigged, you didn’t really win.

Posted by: For The Record | Jan 24, 2010 10:46:06 PM
Or driving a car off a bridge after having a couple of drinks with someone who isn’t your wife and then leaving the scene of the accident with this woman still in the car, letting her drown! Good times, good times…

No, we won’t have the president showing up at any more lost causes. We can’t have the “loser” tag attach itself even more to the President.
Tell ya right now. Plouffe’s job is gonna be to make sure that the bus runs right on time, even if it “mistakenly” runs over some people.

“You forgot Tim Geithner. He cheated on his taxes, but was just too valuable to pass up as Treasury Secretary…”
Cheating? He just made some mistakes with TurboTax. Nothing dishonest. Maybe he could get together with Rangel and they could together create new policies that would benefit us all. Not just the guy G. Sachs!

So it’s just the Republicans? Democrats could have refused to fund the war at any time… shall we review the voting records?

Posted by: Skip | Jan 24, 2010 10:45:38 PM
I loath the military – Bill Clinton
If you don’t study, you wind up in the Army in Iraq – John Kerry (who served in Vietnam, and treated with enemy in Paris)
Don’t get me started…

Some day I might just go through the Senate roster and see who served and who didn’t. Now that I know that’s the criteria for being able to declare war…

John Kerry may not be able to successfully deliver a political barb but he is certainly a veteran, which is more than can be said of most of the high level hawks in the Bush administration. He meant to say: “If you don’t study you get us stuck in Iraq” as a jab at Bush. He said “…you get stuck in Iraq”. One little word; big difference
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He can’t even get the easy stuff right, much less decide if he’s a war criminal or hero. Or if the medals he tossed away were really his.

“You’re right. What’s the cost of war compared to keeping your political seat”
That’s exactly why it’s political suicide; because nobody will support trying to end the war that way even if the public wants an end to the war. You’re the one who suggested it could be an option.

Posted by: For The Record | Jan 24, 2010 11:15:51 PM
With his past associations, it’s highly doubtful he could ever have gotten a security clearance… I mean hanging with guys that bombed the U.S. Capital… Really!

especially and illegal and unjust war.
Posted by: For The Record | January 24, 2010 at 11:18 PM
During the Vietnam War, young people throughout the country risked a lot to protest the war. Many lost a lot too – some left the country. Wouldn’t it be brave – really brave – for a politician to make a choice like that?

Posted by: tierra | Jan 24, 2010 11:24:02 PM
Really teirra, you seem stuck on Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. Is it true that hate is a close cousin of love?

Bush and Cheney war heros?
Posted by: tierra | Jan 24, 2010 11:24:02 PM
Someone here said they were war heroes? I must have missed that post.

“I defended this country as a young man and I will defend it as president.”
The stadium was awash with red, white and blue, and his first words set the tone: “I’m John Kerry and I’m reporting for duty.”
vs.
“I didn’t really want to get involved in the war”, Kerry said in a book of Vietnam reminiscences published in 1986.

More mistakes:
White House advisers appearing on the Sunday talk shows gave three different estimates of how many jobs could be credited to President Obama’s Recovery Act.
The discrepancy was pointed out by a Republican official in an email to reporters noting that “Three presidential advisers on three different programs [gave] three different descriptions of the trillion-dollar stimulus bill.”
Valerie Jarrett had the most conservative count, saying “the Recovery Act saved thousands and thousands of jobs,” while David Axelrod gave the bill the most credit, saying it has “created more than – or saved more than 2 million jobs.” Press Secretary Robert Gibbs came in between them, saying the plan had “saved or created 1.5 million jobs.”

So they are what?…
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Well, if you’re Cheney, you’re a man who ducked the call to serve a number of times – regardless of the capacity.
And if you’re Bush, you were fully trained as a fighter pilot at great expense to the taxpayer, and then took a deferment to work on elections, and failed to show for your medical.

To posters like “tierra”, Obama has
his military bona fides by virtue
of his successful political wars
against Hillary, then McCain. This
president wouldn’t know an AK-47 from a slingshot……only that the latter
sounds like a better weapon for our
battle troops….there would be less
injury to our “poor” enemy.

Actually tierra is stuck on attacking the other side – since there’s nothing to say about Obama.
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The discussion was Republican politicians and Democratic politicians and their combat records.
Cheney and Bush come easily to mind because they both ducked combat. Cheney didn’t serve at all and Bush was fully trained but the took a deferment to work on a political campaign, and missed his medical.

Well, if you’re Cheney, you’re a man who ducked the call to serve a number of times – regardless of the capacity.
And if you’re Bush, you were fully trained as a fighter pilot at great expense to the taxpayer, and then took a deferment to work on elections, and failed to show for your medical.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 24, 2010 11:45:21 PM
And if you’re not Cheney or Bush and you served but purposely chose military career paths that did not include fighting? What are you?

there would be less
injury to our “poor” enemy.
Arms are for hugging!

“These statements are not mutually exclusive you know. Uncountable multitudes throughout history from many nations have not really wanted to go fight and die in war but did their duty.”
I think it should be mandatory — like Health Care!

“I think it should be mandatory — like Health Care!”
Well you would like living in Switzerland then.

Obama wasn’t military age during the Vietnam war
Posted by: tierra | Jan 24, 2010 11:57:54 PM
Which has absolutely nothing to do with him serving in the military. He chose not to. Period.

In my mind, I’m already there! ;-)
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Whoa, slow down there. Die Schweiz has crazy guns laws. Everyone has an assault rifle. The crime is through the roof! Luckily, liberals have good laws controlling firearms in places like Washington DC. Nobody’s been shot in years…

In Switzerland, every able-bodied military aged man is required to have a military weapon in his home. Homes are required to have bomb shelters. Leading to the description that Switzerland does not have an army, Switzerland is an army.

And that Bush was required to serve as well but once trained as a pilot managed to get a deferment to work on a political campaign ie. back out of combat. –
Really tierra…
Mr. Bush served honorably in the National Guard during the Cold War when nuclear armed Russian bombers were continually probing the US Air Defenses. He sat alert in an F-102. During each alert tour, he was “scrambled” over the Gulf, usually at night, in a single-seat, nuclear-armed, single-engine, well-known widow maker, not knowing it it was a practice or active-air scramble until he switched to GCI, feet-wet, and if it were real subject to an order to ram any bombers he might not be able to shoot with his missiles.
During the Vietnam draw-down all the Active, Reserve, and Guard units were swamped with people. Virtually anyone who wanted to leave to do other things was given permission to do so. His unit was switching to a new aircraft, not worth it to train him on the new jet when he was not planning to continue his service — better to save the opportunity for the thousands of others wanting to stay on (many were let go nonetheless).
Mr. Bush never made a big point of his service, rather it was others, and today you, who wished to make it an issue against him. He release all his military records, college transcripts, etc. Yet the current occupant seems reluctant to even release his birth certificate…

Passing out assault rifles to all the homeowners downtown doesn’t sound like a practical solution to crime despite whatever statistics the NRA might throw at us.
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Sure, banning handguns in DC has worked so well.

Under the heading of “I’m Melting!”
“Obama has to decide whether he wants to be a transformational president, which looks optimistic at this stage, or merely an effective president,” says Bruce Josten, head of government affairs at the US Chamber of Commerce, which has spent tens of millions of dollars opposing healthcare. “My advice would be that he pick up the phone and ask for Bill Clinton’s advice on how to recover from a situation like this.”
“Worse, most people do not think Mr Obama can even command unity within his own administration on the Wall Street proposals amid growing speculation about whether Tim Geithner, the Treasury secretary, can survive in his job.
“Finally, there is increasingly open Democratic disaffection about the way Mr Obama is managing relations with Capitol Hill. Many believe that Rahm Emanuel, Mr Obama’s aggressive chief of staff, served Mr Obama badly by persuading the president that his election was a transformational moment in US politics that gave him the opportunity to push through long-cherished Democratic goals, such as healthcare reform.” Financial Times, 1/22/10
Altogether now…… ahhhhh! What a shame!

Hey TWG! Switzerland isn’t an army; Swittzerland is the matre d’ for Germany. Switzerland never gets its hands dirty helping others, but it sure looks good doing it.

Please let Obama stand on his own accomplishments (or lack there of) and stop comparing him to past presidents. That kind of dialogue is SO grade school and childish.
Who cares about Reagan’s percentage points decades ago, Obama is nothing like Reagan. I have heard enough Bush hater/whiner smears over the last eight years to last a lifetime. That IS history and people are concerned about THIS administration and THEIR policies! If this is how the dems are trying to sway the public…it’s truly pathetic!

“Mr. Obama did warn publicly of a coming housing crisis in March 2007, five months before it erupted and the government first took action.” NY Times

“So, what happened in Congress? Who stopped this?”
Posted by: Sigmonde | Jan 25, 2010 7:27:48 AM
The Democrats in Congress, by playing their favorite card: RACISM!–because mortgage reform would have reduced the number of loans going to low-income people who could not pay them back, including many minorities. Meanwhile, campaign money from Freddie, Fannie, and AIG kept flowing in to Senator Chris Dodd and Rep. Barney Frank.

On topic, I’m glad Plouffe is back and taking on an expanded role. I really like and trust him, too.
No bed-wetting! Call to arms!
We need to pass health care reform (and not forget that the Republican plan was embarrassing and nothing short of a joke), address financial reform and clean energy, put job creation plans into effect, ignore public perception of the stimulus (its wrong; the economists actually have a better read on it, see USA TODAY’s quarterly survey of 50 economists) and get better candidates, and use better strategies to win campaigns.

Yes, socialists, Please keep on pushing your Federal takeover of healthcare. Then watch the Democrats lose 60 seats in the House this November!
Posted by: Libs, and the Lying Liars Who Elect Them | Jan 25, 2010 10:31:25 AM
All democrats, liberals and progressives are not socialists– and health care reform does not amount to a federal takeover of health care and there is no way that the Democrats will lose 60 seats. But ignorance IS a way of life for some. Willfull ignorance. I choose enlightenment!

Posted by: progressive mama | Jan 25, 2010 11:03:11 AM
And I like James Carville’s take on the Massachusetts election loss:
Blame Bush.
Or Chris Matthews’:
Massachusetts voters are racists.
ROTFLMAO

Posted by: Obamatopia | Jan 25, 2010 11:07:00 AM
I note you like no content boiled down to a bumper sticker. Doesn’t really get outside the scorched earth, dumbed down caricature the Right has becomes, does it?

Sorry, the illusion has dissolved, and all the political strong-arming in the world, will change people’s minds, now.
The reality of Obama has come shining through the rose-colored veil, and people now see the truth.