Senate Dems Not Sure They Can Get Enough Votes to Reconfirm Bernanke
Amidst the voter anger at Wall Street and Washington, D.C., ABC News has learned that the Senate Democratic leadership isn't sure there are enough votes to re-confirm Ben Bernanke for another term as chairman of the Federal Reserve.
Bernanke's term expires on Jan. 31.
The White House did not respond to many requests for comment.
"The American people are disgusted with the greed and recklessness of Wall Street," Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., said in an interview with The Associated Press last month. "People are asking, 'Why didn't the Fed intervene at the appropriate time to stop the casino-type activities of large financial companies?'"
Sanders, Sen. Jim Bunning, R-Ky., Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., and Sen. David Vitter, R-La., have all put holds on Bernanke's nomination, requiring 60 votes to proceed to a vote.
Voter anger is of heightened concern to members of Congress given the surprise victory of Sen.-elect Scott Brown, R-Mass., who rode a tide of voter discontent and economic anxiety to an upset victory in a special election earlier this week.
Last month, the Senate Banking Committee voted in favor of Bernanke's nomination by a vote of 16-7, not exactly a reflection of overwhelming positive feelings towards the Fed chair given the fact that he was first appointed in 2006 by President George W. Bush and nominated by President Obama for a second term last August.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., at one point was planning on scheduling a vote on Bernanke for Friday, but the Senate is currently in the midst of a debate over raising the debt limit and the vote has been pushed.
The majority leader met with Bernanke earlier today and issued a statement saying that he believes "more pressure needs to be applied to banks to lend money to small businesses and keep more Americans in their homes." Reid said that the "American people expect our economic leaders to keep Wall Street honest and level the playing field for middle class families, and I will continue to hold their feet to the fire to ensure this happens. As the Senate prepares to take up Chairman Bernanke's nomination, I look forward to hearing more from him about how he intends to address these issues.”
Roll Call reported this week that at the Senate Democratic caucus meeting on Wednesday, "according to senators, liberals spoke out against confirming Bernanke for a second term. Those liberals tried to make the case that the White House needs to put in place fresh economic advisers to focus on 'Main Street' issues like unemployment rather than Wall Street concerns. Moderates were more reserved, senators said, but have similarly withheld their support for Bernanke."
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all you have to do is look at the Government mandated selloff of the market today…Obama could have handled this differently..even Barney Frank is concerned about what Obama has planned. CNBC had an interesting segment on it today…Obama is Obsessed with being liked when he should just govern, and now with Obama slidding in the polls and people turning against him, he is becoming a dangerous president on the economy
Posted by: another crisis, another photo-op | January 21, 2010, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Totally agree. Obama has been too nice. He’s got to stop trying to push a right wing agenda and start moving back to the center.
Posted by: Flash Override | January 21, 2010, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Barney Franks, Reid, Dodd and Bernanke are the major reason why the housing market and wall street got “to big” to fail attitude. They all need to go to prison.
Posted by: rukidding 55 | January 21, 2010, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Audit the fed, kill the fed, imprison all owners of the fed. It is a privately held printing company. Nothing more. They print fake money, sell it to us in exchange for real money (gold) and charge us interest on their worthless paper. A criminal racket of world-class proportions.
ONLY Congress is authorized to coin money. Not this privately owned monopoly.
Posted by: America Citizen | January 21, 2010, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Lets put congressman Ron Paul incharge of the Fed. Or better yet incharge of dismanteling it and return us to gold standard.
Posted by: Matt | January 21, 2010, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
I agree with the first commenter. When we don’t like people for political reasons, we should put them in prison. That’s what American is all about.
Posted by: Daganstein | January 21, 2010, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Why has nobody mentioned that the Ron Paul people are trying to get an up or down vote on the “Audit The Fed” bill?? They are pleading for you all to contact your Senators and ask them to require THAT vote be taken before Bernanke gets HIS vote. Sounds fair to me…
Posted by: eckswhyzee | January 21, 2010, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
The voters are angry with Congress – not the banks, insurance companies or brokerage firms.
The reporter misplaces the ferver – whack all the *(_&heads in C0ngress
Posted by: spondoolix | January 21, 2010, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
To add to the list of people responsible for the housing market bubble and the banks’ irresponsible behavior, the whole Bush administration from Cox on down. He was the one who decided that the banks didn’t need to hold any capital when they loaned money. Greenspan was the one in charge when the whole system went bust and was directly responsible because he had the power to rein in the crooked mortgages, but he didn’t. Anyone with half a brain would realize that the markets are NOT self-correcting. They are positive feedback so that when something goes wrong, like rewarding corruption, then everyone becomes corrupt.
Posted by: Texas Aggie | January 21, 2010, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Obama thinks people are angry at “Washington”, Sanders thinks people are angry at the Fed. You’re getting warm. Shall we try door number three?
Posted by: Woody | January 21, 2010, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
This would be a catastrophe. Are these Senate Republicans crazy? Do they want to give Obama carte blanche to pick the next chairman?
Posted by: Jack | January 21, 2010, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
The US will fail if Benanke is removed. Your interest rates are about to go through the roof! Just what the neocons wanted. How do you feel now Mass.??
Posted by: rightbehind | January 21, 2010, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Those liberals tried to make the case that the White House needs to put in place fresh economic advisers to focus on ‘Main Street’ issues like unemployment rather than Wall Street concerns.
How’s that working out?
Posted by: Double Digits | January 21, 2010, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
–Your interest rates are about to go through the roof–
Not if you’re named Fannie or Fred!
Posted by: Barney | January 21, 2010, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
The voters are angry with Congress – not the banks, insurance companies or brokerage firms.
The reporter misplaces the ferver – whack all the *(_&heads in C0ngress
Posted by: spondoolix | Jan 21, 2010 10:26:32 PM
No I am mad at all of them…..especially at the banks!
Posted by: stop being so selfish | January 21, 2010, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
This whole thing is a farce.
The entire housing bubble was the result of one giant social experiment pushed on us by the liberal democrats.
They’ve been lining the pockets of executives at corporations like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for years in exchange for high-risk loans to low-income, poorly-qualified individuals. …Individuals who have been trained to vote for the Democrats in exchange for government hand outs.
This is the real cause of the economic crisis and Democrats like Barney Frank are right in the middle of it all. They created the situation.
But are they being called to task? Are the executives at Fannie Mae being made to answer for what they’ve done? H8ll no!
Instead we’re blaming the banks. The very same banks that were ORDERED by the government to make risky loans to low-income borrowers via Fannie or Freddie.
What a sham! Folks, we are living in nothing more than a corrupt banana republic.
Posted by: matt | January 21, 2010, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
Bernanke is not a bad person and he did speak out about reform, HOWEVER he was not forceful enough to stop this disaster. He did mention it but didn’t use his power to hit the brakes on it. I prefer to see new blood who will be really really tough. That’s what we need right now. Ha about the Ron Paul comments, I’m a Dem and I agree with them.
Posted by: Elmo | January 21, 2010, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
The big question:
Is Bernanke too big to fail?
Posted by: Chop Shop | January 21, 2010, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
So we get rid of Bush’s crony and put in Obama’s crony (Larry Summers anyone?) and NOTHING changes…
The Fed prints money in order to pay for he welfare/warfare state and avoid raising taxes. As a result we get inflation on steroids as we need more cash to buy less goods and services. This is a ponzi scheme that is only rivaled by the orchestrated theft of one generation on behalf of the other, that is Social Security.
It doesn’t matter really. As long as monetary policy is influenced by international bankers and Wall St. cronie capitalist, instead of sound money, free market ideals, we are headed for our own Japanese inspired “lost decade” or worse Germany’s Weimar Republic.” Hey brother can you spare a wheelbarrow so I can get my daily loaf of bread?” Thanks “Helicopter Ben”, now it’s “Loose Larry’s” turn more than likely to keep serving Wall St. instead of the American people.
At least Obama promised us “Change”, and now for most Americans all we are left with is mere change, and thanks to the record unemployment we have all the time in the world to roll whatever change we have left. But don’t worry, taxes will take even THAT off of our hands SOON!
Posted by: jafo | January 21, 2010, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., at one point was planning on scheduling a vote on Bernanke for Friday, but the Senate is currently in the midst of a debate over raising the debt limit and the vote has been pushed.
Raise the debt limit? Fire up the printers and tell China to open the vaults in Beijing!
Posted by: Easy $ | January 21, 2010, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
So we’ll get rid of Bernanke just so Goldman Sachs can put another one of their cronies in charge? Wake up sheep! This is nothing but a shell game.
This isn’t a Repukelican or Dumbascrap problem. This is an American problem! There’s no difference between Bush or Oblahblah. If they’re different than how did Bush give the private banksters billions of our dollars only to have Oblahblah step in and give those same private banksters more billions of our dollars?
Both parties are looting our country and stripping us of our constitutional freedoms and both sides just bicker back and forth about which side sucks worse. When the cameras are off and these Repukelicans and Dumbascraps are out to a fancy steak lunch they are laughing at us not with us.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 21, 2010, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
It wasn’t about risky loans which were repackaged btw as much as risky investments that included some of those those repackaged loans. The bank was pretty much gambling with the money people had in their accounts.
Posted by: Bwaha | January 21, 2010, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
If Obama was a leader he would be out front-and-center pushing this nomination.But as he is not, de facto Presidents Reid and Pelosi will have to manage this process,if they care to.Obama’s presidency is going down the drain by the hour-he seems totally emasculated at this point.
Posted by: Nephron | January 21, 2010, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
The big question:
Is Bernanke too big to fail?
Th bus is coming…right on time…
Posted by: Greyhound | January 21, 2010, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Sorry Woody, I meant texas aggie. My bad.
Posted by: Tom | January 21, 2010, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
It doesn’t really matter if it’s Bernanke or another Federal Reserve member. They’re all corrupt. End the Fed!
Posted by: Jake | January 21, 2010, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. We are in the early phases of a multi-year depression. You think things are tough when Obama tells the banks to f-off, just wait till the Feds confiscate gold and raise the top margin rate to 80 percent. Then you really will be crying in your beer
Posted by: Chris Hollis | January 21, 2010, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
@bothpartiessuck:
Amen brother, +1 ;-)
Posted by: Gnome Chompsky | January 21, 2010, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Obama has NEVER run anything! What did anybody expect out of a rookie senator? Did any of you expect the community planner to grab the bull by the horns and take charge? He was put in power for a reason. The real leaders of this country “banksters” are orchestrating all of this behind the scenes.
Control a countries money supply and I care not who makes the laws. This scam was thrust on us eons ago when we gave private banksters the power to print our money which is the same as Monopoly money. It’s backed by nothing!
Congress was supposed to coin our money. It says so in the Constitution.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 21, 2010, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Anyone who thinks the Bush didn’t push homeownership need to listen to his SOTU from 2002 and a speech he gave in June 2002. Then Google ADDI that was pushed through by the REPUBLICAN Senate and house and signed by W in 2003! They didn’t like down payment for loans. ALSO ARMS were hard to come by before 2003.
Posted by: Goober | January 21, 2010, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Re: “If Obama was a leader he would be out front-and-center pushing this nomination.”
Why? Bernanke is part of the problem.
Posted by: Bubbles | January 21, 2010, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
just wait till the Feds confiscate gold and raise the top margin rate to 80 percent. Then you really will be crying in your beer
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I lost my gold and silver in a boat accident, but I brew my own beer. The hell with US dollar, I trade goods and services. Taxes aren’t much of a problem in that respect. I suggest the same…
Posted by: Off the Grid | January 21, 2010, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
the one entity that will always remain unaccountable and too big to fail is the federal gov’t.
Posted by: mark c | January 21, 2010, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Hah! The Republican’s knee jerk obstructionism now has them teaming up the only literal Socialist elected to the Senate in living memory, Bernie Sanders (Socialist)(seriously, look it up).
Bernanke is no Greenspan – he’s replaceable and I trust the Obama administration to come up with a responsible replacement if Congress decides to scapegoat Ben out. It’s not fair, Bernanke played the banking rescue quite well technically, but politics isn’t about being fair.
Posted by: jhw539 | January 21, 2010, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
He should never have been confirmed in the first place. Can you imagine how the Senate would have reacted if GWB had nominated a tax-cheat for Secretary of Treasury? Can you imagine the uproar in the Media? Where is the media on this? Where is the Media on BHO’s birth certificate? They absolutely hounded GWB on his military records and his college transcripts.
Posted by: twg | January 21, 2010, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
but the Senate is currently in the midst of a debate over raising the debt limit and the vote has been pushed.
Great solution.
Posted by: Printing Press | January 21, 2010, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Did any of you expect the community planner to grab the bull by the horns and take charge?
Bothpartiessuck | Jan 21, 2010 11:01:23 PM
I’m satisfied with the changes that have been put in place by the Obama administration. If Obama hasn’t done anything, then why are Republicans going completely nuts about him? And just wait for the next few years.
Posted by: jhw539 | January 21, 2010, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Bernanke is no Greenspan
He’s no Geithner either.
Posted by: 1040 | January 21, 2010, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Can you imagine how the Senate would have reacted if GWB had nominated a tax-cheat for Secretary of Treasury? Can you imagine the uproar in the Media? Where is the media on this? Where is the Media on BHO’s birth certificate?
twg | Jan 21, 2010 11:07:42 PM
From Right wing fantasy land, I guess you can only have paranoid fantasies about how the media would have reacted to Bush appointing a tax cheat. In reality, it happened. More than once. And was such a minor news story, you don’t even know how many time it happened do you?
Posted by: jhw539 | January 21, 2010, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
You want some change you can believe in?
1st End the Fed and give that power to congress.
2nd Put term limits on these crooks who go to Washington for a career rather than to do the work of the people. It used to be you’d go to Washington at the end of a succesful career and you’d bring expertise and savy with you. Hell Oblahblah wasn’t even a partner in law firm. What experience does he bring other than rallying bums to vote for income redistribution?
3rd Put in some campaign finance reform. Quit letting corporations donate millions to party campaigns. Each politician should get the same amount of money to campaign with so they don’t have any backs to scratch when they get there. A corporation can’t vote but they can contribute finaces to a campaign for their special interest? Does anybody else see a problem with that? This will also put a stop to politicians offering up everything under the sun that they can’t deliver on.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 21, 2010, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
“I’m satisfied with the changes that have been put in place by the Obama administration.”
That’s one. Anybody else?
Face it, friend: Obama isn’t the change most people were hoping for.
Posted by: McGehee | January 21, 2010, 11:15 pm 11:15 pm
The dems are all flustered because they only have 59 dems in senate now. Why are they so scared. They are still in control, arent they? Sure seem like they cant even get it together in their own party
Posted by: ted | January 21, 2010, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
the one entity that will always remain unaccountable and too big to fail is the federal gov’t.
mark c | Jan 21, 2010 11:04:29 PM
If you have that level of contempt for the government our Founding Fathers created and the most successful free nation in the history of the Earth, then feel free to emigrate else where. Our government is not perfect, but it is the best in the world.
Posted by: jhw539 | January 21, 2010, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
Could someone please explain to the “liberals” Jake quotes at the end that the Fed Chairman is only incidentally an “economic advisor,” that isn’t the major function of the job; and that dealing with unemployment is even less a responsibility of the Fed chairman. Spraying pablum at us is insulting. I wish they’d stop.
Posted by: Robert Hahn | January 21, 2010, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Face it, friend: Obama isn’t the change most people were hoping for.
McGehee | Jan 21, 2010 11:15:49 PM
He won with 53% of the vote, his current approval rating is 49%. He’s not the change most people were hoping for, but so far he IS the change that 92% of the people who did vote for him were hoping for.
Posted by: jhw539 | January 21, 2010, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
“If you have that level of contempt for the government our Founding Fathers created and the most successful free nation in the history of the Earth, then feel free to emigrate else where.”
When Bush was president you guys were all, “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.” What a difference a year makes.
Posted by: McGehee | January 21, 2010, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
“The dems are all flustered because they only have 59 dems in senate now. Why are they so scared. They are still in control, arent they? Sure seem like they cant even get it together in their own party”
Yeah, it’s rather funny. They blame the Republicans for everything bad that’s happened in the past nine years. Well the Republicans haven’t had a supermajority since the 1920′s. So, now, the Republicans are to blame for everything bad that will happen because the Dems only have 59 seats. The Dems had a supermajority for a year. Well, if the Republicans are to blame when they only have 41 seats, then the Democrats are to blame for all of the bad that happened during the Bush years — years that the Republicans did NOT have a supermajority.
Using that “logic” of course.
Posted by: JoeM | January 21, 2010, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
“his current approval rating is 49%”
Cherry picking your polls like you cherry pick your facts.
Posted by: McGehee | January 21, 2010, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Is Obama the kiss of death? Corzine, Deeds, Coakley, Chicago 2016, Southers and now Time Magazine’s very own “Man of the Year” Bernanke.
I’d think long and hard before having barack hussein obama on my side.
Posted by: Bryan H | January 21, 2010, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
I’m satisfied with the changes that have been put in place by the Obama administration. If Obama hasn’t done anything, then why are Republicans going completely nuts about him? And just wait for the next few years.
Posted by: jhw539 | Jan 21, 2010 11:08:54 PM
Oblahblah hasn’t done one thing he said he was going to do while campaigning. Pull out of war? He’s ramped up the war effort. Hell we’re about to invade other countries now. Transparency? How’s that behind closed doors transparency working for you? What kind of deal did Nebraska get for the healthcare vote again? How’s about Bush’s BS Patriot Act that Oblahblah wasn’t going to sign off on? What was the point of the Patriot Act again? Hell if they upheld the laws we had we should be protected. Unfortunately Marshal Law isn’t found in the constitution so the Patriot Act had to be passed or America was doomed. Just like if we didn’t sign the stimulus America was doomed. Hell if we don’t spend more while we’re bankrupt America is doomed. Never let a crisis go to waste. Especially when you’re trying to destroy a nation and it’s currency.
I don’t want the government in any aspect of my life. I’m a free human being watching a tyranical government try to control every aspect of my life. And everything they touch they ruin.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 21, 2010, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Oh yeah – it was Bush’s fault Barfney Frank and Chris Dodd got those great ContryWide loans while simultaneously forcing banks to take riskier loans! (law stupid) And you probably forgot about the FIVE attempts by Bush to reduce the banking risks…. but hey, the MSMs don’t report good things republicans do…. Chris Matthews still has something runing up his legs for BO…..
Posted by: MDA | January 21, 2010, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
From Right wing fantasy land…
Posted by: jhw539 | Jan 21, 2010 11:16:22 PM
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The first to challenge BHO in the courts about his eligibility was a democrat supporter of Ms. Clinton. Soon other democrats will be disillusioned. Why does he not release a copy of his long-form birth certificate? He admits in his book he has seen it. Why has he spent $1M in lawyer fees to keep it concealed? What exactly does he have to hide?
Honestly, I see Ms. Clinton running for president in 2012 and her people leading the charge to declare Mr. Obama not eligible for the office.
But then, it doesn’t matter because by then several Red States will require proof of eligibility in order to be on the ballot in their states. At that point Mr. Obama will have to release the birth certificate or forfeit that state.
This is coming, watch for it…
Posted by: twg | January 21, 2010, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
“I’m satisfied with the changes that have been put in place by the Obama administration. ”
So you’ve been out of the country for the last year, right? Cause you’d have to be a complete fool to think that the Obama administration has been anything other than a complete debacle up to this point. I can’t think of a single thing that they’ve done RIGHT.
In fact, you’d have to purposely try to wreck the economy to screw things up any worse than they’ve done.
Posted by: Matt | January 21, 2010, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
More on Timmy G.
During Tim Geithner’s trip to China on June 1, 2009, he was asked a question from a student about the safety of Chinese investments in U.S. Treasury debt. Geithner quickly reassured the student questioner they were “Very safe”, as the audience laughed–
Posted by: Walt D. | January 21, 2010, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
The first to challenge BHO in the courts about his eligibility was a democrat supporter of Ms. Clinton.
twg | Jan 21, 2010 11:25:51 PM
The birthers are back? You realize we’re laughing at you, not with you. Why don’t YOU put up the money and start your own court case? Why don’t the Republican pour all the funds into it too? It’s a slam dunk – who cares that all the cases have been tossed at this point, or that the director of the Hawaii State Department of Health has verified the birth certificate Obama has publicly provided is legitimate and accurate. Put your money where you mouth is, bring a lawsuit (maybe mortgage your house and you’ll find someone other than a crazy dentist willing to become a laughingstock for a buck).
Posted by: jhw539 | January 21, 2010, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
If Bernanke could “not see it coming” the last time, get him out and find somebody new…. NOW!!
Posted by: HoosierValues | January 21, 2010, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
During Tim Geithner’s trip to China on June 1, 2009, he was asked a question from a student about the safety of Chinese investments in U.S. Treasury debt. Geithner quickly reassured the student questioner they were “Very safe”, as the audience laughed–
Hysterical.
Posted by: Kung Pow | January 21, 2010, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
“How about Bernard Kerik, nominated for secretary of Homeland Security”
Uhm, there is a bit of a difference. He was NOMINATED. He wasn’t confirmed.
Geithner, on the other hand was confirmed and they all looked the other way.
You don’t see the difference?
I just see the system working.
Posted by: Janet N. | January 21, 2010, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Uhm, there is a bit of a difference. He was NOMINATED. He wasn’t confirmed.
Geithner, on the other hand was confirmed and they all looked the other way.
JoeM | Jan 21, 2010 11:27:18 PM
Looked the other way? Geithner was grilled and verified that he was fully paid up and legal before being confirmed. And I wager he won’t be convicted of ethics violations and fined hundreds of thousands of dollars within a few years, but we’ll have to wait and see. Overall, most of Bush’s nominees didn’t have tax problems (overall, the vast majority of Obama’s don’t either), but you’d expect that out of a slate of multi-millionaires, ex-CEOs, lobbyists and John Ashcroft.
Posted by: jhw539 | January 21, 2010, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
Lower taxes and start some job creation. Reagan | Jan 21, 2010 11:40:56 PM
Sure – look at all those jobs created by all the tax cuts under Bush. Sure, they resulted in record deficits and poorer job creation than under Carter, but our taxes now are only the lowest they’ve been since the 1920′s. Cut ‘em lower – who cares that they’re so low that many people have fallen off the rolls entirely and we don’t have enough funds to support a first world nation’s infrastructure.
Cut taxes! It’s the Republican way!
Posted by: jhw539 | January 21, 2010, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
You know really it wasn’t the left or right that got us into this mess. It was all of the moderate, centrist, country club. career Republicans and Democrats who were only too happy to do their glad handing, back slapping, compromising, deal making best to do what was best for them and their party.
It’s almost like the Democrats said “Hey! Let’s let everybody buy a house whether they can afford it or not!” and the Republicans answered “Dude! We can get rich off it!”
The left and right did cheer these guys on but when you look at how marginalized both are for the most part you start thinking that Rush Limbaugh might be right about all those stinkin’ Moderates. ;-)
Posted by: Rapid Roy | January 21, 2010, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Don’t the Dems get it? The fact that they forced the banks to lend to unqualified “underprivileged” borrowers in the first place was the primary cause of the financial crisis. Now that there is the faint possibility of stability in the banking sector, they’re back to the same old tricks, trying to shake down the banks and force them to extend loans that are just to financially risky at this point. Let the banks figure out when it’s best to loan. Keep the government out. Government trying to run the banks is what caused the problem in the first place.
Posted by: Emmett | January 21, 2010, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
The man should be in jail – along with Geithner, Paulson and their clones, the denizens of Wall Street.
Posted by: Tom Dennen | January 21, 2010, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
No, I’m not upset with their greed. I’m upset with DC for not doing their job. Remember the whistle blower on the madoff scam? Why haven’t there been prosecutions if laws were broken? If no laws were broken and people were just doing their best with a flawed system then we need to remove the flaw. And that’s the Community Reinvestment Act. No bank should be forced to loan money to people that can’t pay it back and investment houses shouldn’t be put into a position to sell bad investments to cover for them, for liberal drones that won’t admit Carter and Clinton made a mistake.
Posted by: Jeepwonder | January 21, 2010, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
Don’t the Dems get it? The fact that they forced the banks to lend to unqualified “underprivileged” borrowers in the first place was the primary cause of the financial crisis.
Emmett | Jan 21, 2010 11:46:26 PM
Do you have any factual support for that, or better yet an actual economist who supports that opinion? Seeing as how lending institutions not subject to federal regulations are documented as leading the way on subprime loans, and loans ‘forced’ by the federal government are documented as having a low to average default rate, good luck finding any respected economist that supports your argument (hint: Hannity is not an economist).
Posted by: jhw539 | January 21, 2010, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
oops, I forgot about redistributing the wealth of our country thru this phoney stimulus bill and global warming=climate change=wind power BS…they have to move fast now the wheels are coming off the wagon!
Posted by: patriot | January 21, 2010, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
for liberal drones that won’t admit Carter and Clinton made a mistake.
Jeepwonder | Jan 21, 2010 11:48:19 PM
Bwhahaahaha… Yeah, it’s all Carter and Clinton. No one else has had anything to do with government policy for the past 35 years of iron clad, closed rank Democratic monolithic domination…
Posted by: jhw539 | January 21, 2010, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
“(hint: Hannity is not an economist)”
Neither is Pelosi, Reid, Frank or Obama and yet it doesn’t stop them from pushing the same policies that led us into this recession via Freddie and Fannie.
A liberal and his money are soon parted.
Posted by: Q | January 21, 2010, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
If the American People allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the People of all their Property until their Children will wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered. – Thomas Jefferson
Posted by: Bill DeBurgh | January 21, 2010, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
No, I’m not upset with their greed. I’m upset with DC for not doing their job. Remember the whistle blower on the madoff scam? Why haven’t there been prosecutions if laws were broken? If no laws were broken and people were just doing their best with a flawed system then we need to remove the flaw. And that’s the Community Reinvestment Act. No bank should be forced to loan money to people that can’t pay it back and investment houses shouldn’t be put into a position to sell bad investments to cover for them, for liberal drones that won’t admit Carter and Clinton made a mistake.
Posted by: Jeepwonder | Jan 21, 2010 11:48:19 PM
Both parties have gotten us where we are today. The sooner you clowns realize this the sooner we’ll all stand up and kick both parties out of power and create new parties who work for our best interest again.
The community reinvestment act is just one aspect of failure with these clowns.
You want to really look at what started all this crap in motion you need to go all the way back to 1913. The new deal and the birth of the federal reserve got us here. This country was doing just fine and there was no need to give private banks the power to control our money.
One of our founding father said this
If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and the corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 12:00 am 12:00 am
“Sure – look at all those jobs created by all the tax cuts under Bush. Sure, they resulted in record deficits and poorer job creation than under Carter,”
Yeah, I remember the unemployment rate back then too, 10% right?
Posted by: Good Times | January 22, 2010, 12:01 am 12:01 am
Hey, didn’t Obama promise 8% unemployment by now? Yeah, the stimulus and Obama’s bank policies have worked wonders on the ecomony. We get a $787 billion bill and we’re right at the same unemployment rate that most economists predicted a year ago. At this rate the Dems. will lose a 100 house seats and control of the Senate – particularly if they try to jam through a health care bill that 55% of the population doesn’t want.
Posted by: Q | January 22, 2010, 12:04 am 12:04 am
Geithner was grilled and verified that he was fully paid up and legal before being confirmed. And I wager he won’t be convicted of ethics violations and fined hundreds of thousands of dollars within a few years, but we’ll have to wait and see. Overall, most of Bush’s nominees didn’t have tax problems (overall, the vast majority of Obama’s don’t either), but you’d expect that out of a slate of multi-millionaires, ex-CEOs, lobbyists and John Ashcroft.
Where were you whne I needed you?
Posted by: Daschle Rulz | January 22, 2010, 12:04 am 12:04 am
“Hey, didn’t Obama promise 8% unemployment by now?”
Is that you Mr. Lamb?
Posted by: See Spam | January 22, 2010, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Yes owebama has apologized to the world for the United States. Now they laugh at us. True American Patriots had better take this country back lest we deserve our fate.
Posted by: GDOG0717 | January 22, 2010, 12:11 am 12:11 am
Hey, didn’t Obama promise 8% unemployment by now?
Q | Jan 22, 2010 12:04:40 AM
No he didn’t. Provide the quote. And if you are referring to the Romer report, released before the stimulus bill was even completed provide at least one of the four paragraphs of disclaimers prior to the graph.
“It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error. There is the obvious uncertainty that comes from modeling a hypothetical
package rather than the final legislation passed by the Congress. But, there is the more fundamental
uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program. Our estimates of economic relationships and rules of thumb are derived from historical experience and so will not apply exactly in any given episode. Furthermore, the uncertainty is surely higher than normal now because the
current recession is unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity.”
Yeah, some “promise” there from the president-elect (that report was released Jan 10th). Or perhaps you’re not just another Republican exaggerating and spreading lies – could you provide the quote where Obama “promise(s) 8% unemployment”?
Posted by: jhw539 | January 22, 2010, 12:12 am 12:12 am
You all need to pull your heads out of your butts and quit with this back and forth about how both parties suck. Unite or die! Division is exactly what these politicians want. While you’re bickering back and forth they’re robbing us blind and taking away our freedoms.
I could on and on about all the atrocities imposed on us from both sides of the political spectrum. Repukelicans need to turn off FOX news and Dumbascraps need to turn off CNN. Get your news if you can really call it that from elsewhere. If your news source props up one side like they have no faults then you’re being lied to.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 12:15 am 12:15 am
“In January, the incoming administration predicted in a white paper study that without a huge stimulus package, unemployment would reach just over 8%, and would be contained at under 8% with a stimulus package. – Political Punch 6/19/09″
His administration did predict this and pushed this report extensively to sell the stimulus. You can try to spin it all you like, jhw, but the simple facts are not on your side.
Posted by: Q | January 22, 2010, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Another 2 TRILLION increase in the debt limit. EXACTLY where is that gonna go……to the penny? owebama and friends are creating a meltdown!
Posted by: GDOG0717 | January 22, 2010, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Hum, the fed was aware that the housing boom was unsustainable, that means that that there was no good reason for its existence just like the DOT boom which became the DOT BOMB. Tell me why this fool should be reconfirmed? I suspect that this idiot and his predecessor Greenspan can continue to provide cover for Nobama who continues to blame GWB for everything that goes wrong in the world.
Posted by: BobB | January 22, 2010, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Another 2 TRILLION increase in the debt limit. EXACTLY where is that gonna go……to the penny? owebama and friends are creating a meltdown!
We’ll just use TurboTax to help…I’ll call Rangel and Dodd too. Man, those guys are good with numbers and stuff!
Posted by: Timmy G | January 22, 2010, 12:26 am 12:26 am
His administration did predict this and pushed this report extensively to sell the stimulus. You can try to spin it all you like, jhw, but the simple facts are not on your side.
Q | Jan 22, 2010 12:19:21 AM
So they pushed it extensively – so where are the quotes? Where are the quotes, citations, facts? I provided a quote and citation that can be verified. A small part of the large disclaimer in the Romer report; and you didn’t answer the question – with this huge disclaimer, are you calling the balance of this report a “promise”?
What next – will you type in all caps to ‘prove’ your argument? Or provide some quote from the Obama administration to support your opinion? (As a side note, on Jan 10th when the Romer report was released, there was no Obama administration yet.)
Posted by: jhw539 | January 22, 2010, 12:28 am 12:28 am
“Back in early January, when Barack Obama was still President-elect, two of his chief economic advisers — leading proponents of a stimulus bill — predicted that the passage of a large economic-aid package would boost the economy and keep the unemployment rate below 8%. It hasn’t quite worked out that way. Last month, the jobless rate in the U.S. hit 9.5%, the highest level it has reached since 1983. (See 10 ways your job will change.)
The two advisers who wrote the paper, Christina Romer and Jared Bernstein, went on to land key jobs in the Obama Administration. Romer is the head of Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, and Bernstein is the chief economist and economic-policy adviser to Vice President Joe Biden. And the stimulus bill that both economists championed became law in mid-February. What has not come to pass, however, is the boom in job creation that Romer and Bernstein predicted. A little over a month ago, the Administration said the stimulus bill had created or saved 150,000 jobs. That’s a far cry from the 3 million to 4 million jobs that Romer and Bernstein foresaw back in January.”-Time, 7/14/09
Posted by: Q | January 22, 2010, 12:28 am 12:28 am
Let’s reshape America together! Let’s roll out new free welfare programs for the most expensive services and products available to everyone in the world at taxpayers expense. Let’s make only part time minimum wage jobs be left in the U.S. for everyone who isn’t a polititican. Let’s create and tout public programs to delay 7% of the people losing their homes while the rest can live in the street. Let’s destroy the banking system. Let’s add trillions of dollars of debt that will exist beyond our grandchildren’s time and make the U.S. dollar worthless. Let’s bow and kneel before other heads of state, maybe shine their shoes while we are down there. We can do it!
Posted by: Calvin Hobbes | January 22, 2010, 12:29 am 12:29 am
And Bawnies Frank never met a Fannie or Freddie it didn’t like.
Posted by: GDOG0717 | January 22, 2010, 12:29 am 12:29 am
Democrats or Republicans…doesn’t matter anyway. Representatives will always represent themselves and not the people. Direct Democracy is the only moral form of government.
Posted by: jim | January 22, 2010, 12:31 am 12:31 am
“I provided a quote and citation that can be verified.”
jhw, you provided an opinion without flimsy spin. I provided you two mainstream resources, including this very blog, that dispute your hyperbole and spin.
Posted by: Q | January 22, 2010, 12:31 am 12:31 am
Time, 7/14/09
Q | Jan 22, 2010 12:28:34 AM
Time magazine is not the Obama administration. And they provided no verifiable quote or citation in that pulp blurb. At least you didn’t just post a Hannity or Beck rant I suppose.
Can you or can you not provide an actual quote from the Obama administration that supports you initial lie, “didn’t Obama promise 8% unemployment by now?” Oh that’s right – it was in the form of a question. Don’t the Republicans always tell big lies and hope to dodge being called on them by phrasing them as a question?
Posted by: jhw539 | January 22, 2010, 12:32 am 12:32 am
jhw, you provided an opinion without flimsy spin. I provided you two mainstream resources, including this very blog, that dispute your hyperbole and spin.
Q | Jan 22, 2010 12:31:29 AM
I provided an opinion WITHOUT flimsy spin – yes, that’s true. I provided a cited quote actually from the administration.
How, how is it possible that the Obama administration pushed “extensively” that unemployment would be under 8% and yet the actual fact is you cannot provide a single quote from them?
Is critical thinking so poor that you don’t understand what a primary source is? I posted a cited and verifiable quote from the primary source. You’re posting what pundits said. Do you honestly not understand the difference?
Posted by: jhw539 | January 22, 2010, 12:35 am 12:35 am
Amazing how the people who are awake to the 2 headed 1 bodied monster that is American politics are being silenced. They don’t want us to unite.
So keep at it and see where this road ends. It’s going to end badly!
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 12:35 am 12:35 am
“Time magazine is not the Obama administration. And they provided no verifiable quote or citation in that pulp blurb.”
LOL. That’s it, jhw. It’s Time’s fault. It’s ABC’s fault, because everyone know the MSM is a shill for the Republican party.
Posted by: Q | January 22, 2010, 12:37 am 12:37 am
The only hope for the U.S. is to nominate true conservative candidates, and then vote for them in the Congressional elections this November. Please note that I did not say vote for the Republican candidate, and I did not say vote for a self-designated conservative candidate. Objective evidence of conservatism is to be required, and, for incumbents, evidence of their previous votes is key. Did they walk the walk?
Posted by: Klesb | January 22, 2010, 12:39 am 12:39 am
LOL. That’s it, jhw. It’s Time’s fault. It’s ABC’s fault, because everyone know the MSM is a shill for the Republican party.
Q | Jan 22, 2010 12:37:06 AM
Yes, Jake did a shoddy job on this too. But in this specific case, you’re the liar in the room. You can’t provide a single quote of the Obama administration promising unemployment would remain under 8% as you implied. Not one. Not even on FoxNews. Not with Google. Honestly, I was expecting to turn one up, but I’ve been looking for weeks.
Where is the quote of the Obama administration – not some pundit or writer after a headline – promising unemployment would stay under 8%? It’s quite easy – provide the quote and you’re right. If no such quote exists, you lied.
Posted by: jhw539 | January 22, 2010, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Amazing how the people who are awake to the 2 headed 1 bodied monster that is American politics are being silenced. They don’t want us to unite.
Bothpartiessuck | Jan 22, 2010 12:35:26 AM
They are, at the end of the day, pretty happy to be living in the most powerful and prosperous free nation mankind has ever seen, and respect that the government our Founding Fathers created is dysfunctional and imperfect – but the best system in the world. But good luck with your nihilistic ‘uniting’. It’s a better ambition than what your ilk would get up to in a lesser nation.
Posted by: jhw539 | January 22, 2010, 12:44 am 12:44 am
Can you or can you not provide an actual quote from the Obama administration that supports you initial lie, “didn’t Obama promise 8% unemployment by now?” Oh that’s right – it was in the form of a question. Don’t the Republicans always tell big lies and hope to dodge being called on them by phrasing them as a question?
Posted by: jhw539 | Jan 22, 2010 12:32:12 AM
Dude seriously! I hate both parties and know that was the Obama admins stance on the stimulus.
They said if we don’t act now unemployment will reach over 8%. The economy is cyclical. It has up’s and downs. Everytime our government gets involved they make it worse. Or do you think spending your way out of a spending problem really works?
Why don’t you attack Repukelicans for Bush changing what qualifies as a manufacturing job while they shipped all the quality manufacturing jobs overseas because of cheap labor? You know argue about something important rather than defend something stupid? As if anyone with half a brain didn’t know a bank stimulus wouldn’t do crap for the economy? Now they count a manufacturing job as a person manufacturing a hamburger at McDonalds or Burger King. If you’re really good you can assemble a taco or burrito at Taco Bell. When this depression hits we’re never going to get out of it because we have no quality manufacturing jobs here anymore.
What’s funny is when Bush signed Tarp Dumbascraps were outraged and Repukelicans defended Bush. Then when Oblahblah added to the Tarp spending Dems defend Oblahblah and Reps were outraged???????
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 12:45 am 12:45 am
They are, at the end of the day, pretty happy to be living in the most powerful and prosperous free nation mankind has ever seen, and respect that the government our Founding Fathers created is dysfunctional and imperfect – but the best system in the world. But good luck with your nihilistic ‘uniting’. It’s a better ambition than what your ilk would get up to in a lesser nation.
Posted by: jhw539 | Jan 22, 2010 12:44:44 AM
Oh come one now! I bet you were the 1st in line to tell the whole world how we shouldn’t be in Iraq and asking everyone on message boards where’s the weapons of mass destruction are. Now your boy Oblahblah who you follow blind is in power and is picking up right where Bush left off and you’re a happy Patriot?
Keep thinking income redistribution works and you are going to get a piece of that pie that keeps vansihing like a fart in the wind. The answer isn’t more spending and more taxes. The answer is cutting back big government who leaches off the private sector.
Now go back to your petty argument about 8% unemployment.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 12:50 am 12:50 am
Simple.
Audit the Fed.
They are responsible to know where the money went, if they dont then they are incompenent and should be removed.
If you want to pay some one to do a bad job you can get someone that will cost you a lot less.
Posted by: TheBigOne | January 22, 2010, 12:51 am 12:51 am
“Yes, Jake did a shoddy job on this too.”
ROTFLOL! It’s Jake’s fault, too. Yeah, that’s reasonable.
Whatever jhw, you’re not credible when you run and hide from the facts. Obama pushed his report, the stimulus was passed via his sales pitch that included this report and jobs have been lost by the millions since the $787 billion dollar roll of the dice.
Posted by: Q | January 22, 2010, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Obama nominated Bernanke-he is his man.I’m assuming that when he nominated him he felt that he was the best individual qualified for the position.As such,as a leader one would think that he would be obligated to lead the effort to get him confirmed.And yet he is doing nothing tonight.When the challenges come he seems to look for an excuse to avoid what needs to be done.We saw this with the Afghanistan troop decision,we saw it during the Somali pirate incident when he refused to allow the SEALs to take out the pirates holding the captain hostage,we saw it when he neglected to nominate anyone to head TSA for the first 8 months of his administration.Why doesn’t this brilliant legal mind have a current law license?Why won’t he release his college transcripts?I don’t see any method at all.
Posted by: Nephron | January 22, 2010, 12:53 am 12:53 am
Romer/Bernstein Report:
“It should be understood that ALL OF THE ESTIMATES presented in this memo ARE SUBJECT TO SIGNIFICANT MARGINS OF ERROR.
“There is the obvious UNCERTAINTY that comes from modelling a HYPOTHETICAL package rather than the final legislation passed by the Congress.
“But, there is the more FUNDAMENTAL UNCERTAINTY that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program. Our estimates of economic relationships and rules of thumb are derived from historical experience and so WILL NOT APPLY EXACTLY in any given episode.
“Furthermore, THE UNCERTAINTY IS SURELY HIGHER THAN NORMAL now because the current recession is unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity.”
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Sure sounds like they were guaranteeing exact predictions of unemployment numbers – NOT!
Research and reading; facts are important.
The right wing and the Republicans have repeating this nonsense ‘promise’ for months now – it’s yet another lie.
Posted by: tierra | January 22, 2010, 12:58 am 12:58 am
The people I know who voted in the Republican in Mass were upset more so over Washington ignoring their feelings against Socialized Healthcare, trying to rid America of its Independence & good traditional values & the feeling that Washington (esp. Pelosi) has a ‘we know best’ approach to govt rather than rep us rep their agendas…& mainstream media except for a few whom seem bought & sold to spin Whitehouse propaganda rather than news, I’ll add…including myself.
Posted by: Rae | January 22, 2010, 12:58 am 12:58 am
If Bernie Sanders (independent socialist) and Jim DeMint (right wing conservative) agree that Bernanke should not be reconfirmed, he is toast!
Posted by: Allen, SD | January 22, 2010, 12:59 am 12:59 am
“KATIE COURIC: Mr. President, if the stimulus plan isn’t really working – at least for now – why should Americans sign off on spending billions of dollars on health care reform?
BARACK OBAMA: I disagree that the stimulus plan is not working. Think about what – where we’ve been, and since that time we have stabilized the financial markets. We have created the ability of businesses to borrow again. We have prevented thousands of layoffs in states all across the country. Are we where we need to be? Absolutely not. Would things be much worse if we had not put the recovery package in place? Absolutely.
COURIC: Later outside, I asked the President about the current unemployment rate, which is at 9.5%.
COURIC: Your administration projected that with the stimulus package, as you know, unemployment could be kept under 8%.
OBAMA: Yeah.
COURIC: Well, that was then, this is now.
OBAMA: Yeah, we blew through that pretty quickly. And I think that, you know, in fairness to my economists, nobody – when we were first sworn in – anticipated that in the first three months, we would lose 700,000 jobs per month. So, you know, I think the severity and the depth of the recession was something that, you know, really exceeded everybody’s expectations.”
-CBS Evening News, 7/21/2009
Doesn’t look like the President denies that he pushed the report and the 8% figure, now does it, jhw?
Posted by: Q | January 22, 2010, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Hey, our family, we’ve always been die hard anti Republican & raised that way…but actually Glen Beck @ FOX News makes legitimate sense to those willing to hear facts over party spoonfed rhetoric so no I’m not suprised nor all the way confident in Obama & my left constituents ideology of where America should be headed; nor so naive to actually believe that Democrats & the Left don’t lie as much if sadly not more than anyone else.
Posted by: Page | January 22, 2010, 1:07 am 1:07 am
Read Stiglitz FREEFALL pages 45-50 to understand why Bernanke, Summers and Geithner all need to go and go very fast. If necessary, do the Bush thing: give them all Medals of Freedom, thank them for their public service and escort them to the door. American citizens have been ripped off by their ideological adherence to unfettered free markets; they are little better than to the ideologues who conspired with the Bushies: “What reality ! We’ve got theories and beliefs and special knowledge; and, if the middle class is harmed, that is meaningless. The ‘system’ must be preserved and must prevail.” Wrong. The government is to govern in the public interest, not the interest of the few. These people are hurting Obama and the nation. Simply put: They were wrong; their decisions hurt millions of people; their advise harmed the nation. Why would any one Democrat or Republican confirm these people?
Posted by: bill janes | January 22, 2010, 1:13 am 1:13 am
Whatever jhw, you’re not credible when you run and hide from the facts. Obama pushed his report
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Show us any quote where Obama promised the 8% figure – any quote.
Posted by: tierra | January 22, 2010, 1:15 am 1:15 am
Sure sounds like they were guaranteeing exact predictions of unemployment numbers – NOT!
Research and reading; facts are important.
The right wing and the Republicans have repeating this nonsense ‘promise’ for months now – it’s yet another lie.
Posted by: tierra | Jan 22, 2010 12:58:35 AM
Since when has the government ever been accurate with anything they’ve ever touched? Repukelicans and Dumbascraps are stupid for even believing anything out of any of their mouths.
The big banksters who are in the club just gobbled up all the smaller banks. That’s all that happened. It had absolutely nothing to do with stimulating the economy. Just like Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with WMD’s.
Once again the sheep are going back and forth about crap that means absolutely zero in the grand scheme of things.
You all wait and see how filthy rich Oblahblah is when he is no longer president. I bet he’ll be just as rich as Bush. How? Because they’re all feeding at the trough at our expense while you all stay divided.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 1:20 am 1:20 am
Bernanke seemed to be entirely reactive with rate policy through his entire term. I am not saying that there is anything else wrong with him or his emergency liquidity measures or in any other way, but we really needed someone who wouldn’t wait until the financial system was on the verge of collapse to lower rates, and by Bernanke’s actions, on the timing and lowering of rates during 2008, Bernanke seemed to be the last person who was aware that a liquidity crisis was present. If we ever get out of this mess I certainly do not want to go through that again. Although at the same time, I am equally horrified of the idea of having someone panicky about inflation proactively raise rates before we are entirely out of the woods and unemployment is where it needs to be, and so perhaps we need someone reactive like Bernanke for the time being.
Posted by: Dugese | January 22, 2010, 1:23 am 1:23 am
It would be difficult to find someone as incompetent and arrogant as Bernanke. On top of that, he’s ugly and wimpy looking, though I’m sure he’s a mean son of a gun. Dump him and the fraudulent Federal Reserve bank.
Posted by: Sober Jones | January 22, 2010, 2:26 am 2:26 am
How exactly do you have “unfettered free markets” when all business is operating within the vice of a monetary monopoly?
If markets were truly “free” and “unfettered” as you say, we would have the legal right to create alternative currency/monetary systems that would be competitive with the anachronistic and obsolete Federal Reserve System.
The advantage of many over one is that a shock within an individual system doesnt bring the whole collective system crashing down with it.
The Fed’s currency monopoly makes as much sense as having a single corporation make all the goods that we consume.
Posted by: FreeWhat? | January 22, 2010, 3:09 am 3:09 am
I don’t know why there is such a big deal breaking up the banks so they are not too big to fail…
ATT was broken up and they never needed a bailout…
Posted by: TJ | January 22, 2010, 3:29 am 3:29 am
“I despise euphemisms such as “quantitative easing,” the Fed’s double-speak expression for printing money. Why can’t the government and the Fed be honest and tell us straight out what they’re doing? Remember when Greenspan removed the M-3 money supply figures from the public? If you want to hide what you’re doing, give it a different name or just eliminate the figures. When your government hides something or classifies it as a secret, you know some kind of hanky-panky or even a crime is being committed. No wonder Americans are fed up with their government and their weaselly Congress. The word now is ‘Never mind what their last name is — throw the bums out.”
Richard Russell 1/21/2010
Posted by: From the Right | January 22, 2010, 4:01 am 4:01 am
Here is a suggestion for banks, auto companies, Insurance companies, farmers as well as other businesses. Accept ANY regulations and taxes that the federal government proposes. Any Obama or Democrat tax. Then when you send a bill to your customer just add a “New regulation/ New tax fee” To your bill. When the customer questions that explain that all taxes are always passe don to the customers and you are just disclosing that fact. IF they desire you can remove that fee but the price of your product will go up that amount anyway.
Better yet some Republican should propose a law that all bills should contain the amount of tax and regulation costs in every bill.
Everyone feel free to pass this suggestion on to business men as well as your congress men.
Posted by: About Time | January 22, 2010, 4:08 am 4:08 am
the fed didn’t intervene because they were complicit. fire Bernanke and get rid of the fed, we don’t need it, they’ve caused nothing but disruption since their inception.
Posted by: craig | January 22, 2010, 4:12 am 4:12 am
I fear that if Bernanke is not confirmed, he will be replaced with someone even worse. Impossible, you say? It would seem so, but before every presidential election since Johnson, I’ve thought the next president could not possibly be any worse than the previous one. I have been wrong every single time.
Posted by: Jive Dadson | January 22, 2010, 4:32 am 4:32 am
Accept ANY regulations and taxes that the federal government proposes. Any Obama or Democrat tax.
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This administration has been giving out $288 Billion in tax breaks in the Recovery and Reinvestment act, and now more coming in additional breaks for small and medium business.
Just out of curiosity, did you think the Bush administration would be able to increase the national debt almost as much as all the previous administrations combined – without there being some kind of taxation to pay for it?
Did you?
Posted by: tierra | January 22, 2010, 5:04 am 5:04 am
Why is Alan Greenspan & the SEC left out of this conversation? Arthur Levitz specifically.
Posted by: nickatdabeach | January 22, 2010, 5:09 am 5:09 am
We’re all for tossing Bernanke out until we realize that 0bama gets to choose his replacement, which means Fed Chairman George Soros.
Posted by: Ted | January 22, 2010, 6:08 am 6:08 am
Given this administrations abysmal track record on selecting and vetting nominees we should be very concerned. Anytime government makes sudden ‘policy’ decisions based on “populist anger”, the country as a whole ends up losing. While we are all angry at the present situation we should demand that the government make better decisions, based on facts, and a solid cost/benefit analysis.
Posted by: Chris | January 22, 2010, 6:15 am 6:15 am
The only hope for the U.S. is to nominate true conservative candidates, and then vote for them in the Congressional elections this November. Please note that I did not say vote for the Republican candidate, and I did not say vote for a self-designated conservative candidate. Objective evidence of conservatism is to be required, and, for incumbents, evidence of their previous votes is key. Did they walk the walk?
Posted by: Klesb | Jan 22, 2010 12:39:22 AM
Thank you Klesb….very well said and point on!! I hope both parties learn in the upcoming and future elections that they are truly accountable TO THE PEOPLE! Either do your job, or YOU ARE HISTORY! A couple cycles of this and we as a nation will see the CHANGE WE voted for.
Posted by: GDOG0717 | January 22, 2010, 6:30 am 6:30 am
Bernanke is not worthy and definitely not TRUSTWORTHY. Fire him! Do not re-confirm this man.
Posted by: thinkerray | January 22, 2010, 6:33 am 6:33 am
Fire Bernanke and END THE FED.
Period.
Posted by: Joe Schmuck | January 22, 2010, 6:51 am 6:51 am
P.S. Our Founding Fathers were AGAINST a central bank, and the Federal Reserve is exactly that. Dump it.
Posted by: Joe Schmuck | January 22, 2010, 6:53 am 6:53 am
I think Warren Buffett is getting senile.
Posted by: LongT | January 22, 2010, 6:57 am 6:57 am
It would take a total violent revolution to rid ourselves of the Fed at this point.
Posted by: LongT | January 22, 2010, 7:00 am 7:00 am
Thank you Klesb….very well said and point on!! I hope both parties learn in the upcoming and future elections that they are truly accountable TO THE PEOPLE! Either do your job, or YOU ARE HISTORY! A couple cycles of this and we as a nation will see the CHANGE WE voted for.
Posted by: GDOG0717 | Jan 22, 2010 6:30:07 AM
There aren’t anymore real conservatives in Washington. A real conservative is now a right wing nutjob thanks to the main stream media.
You actually have to have morals to be a conservative.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 7:06 am 7:06 am
the fed didn’t intervene because they were complicit. fire Bernanke and get rid of the fed, we don’t need it, they’ve caused nothing but disruption since their inception.
Posted by: craig | Jan 22, 2010 4:12:45 AM
The FED was started to avoid recessions. Since they haven’t upheld their end of the bargain and buried this country in debt should be reason enough to say good riddance.
How do avoid something that naturally happpens in economics? Politicians have made recession mean something bad. And since the Fed is designed to make money out of thin air at an expense to us doesn’t it only make sense that spending more money all the time is the only solution to fix nothing?
Vote Ron Paul for president now!
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 7:11 am 7:11 am
The producers in our society, a distinct minority, are under attack. What government bureaucrats, academics and many in the media fail to understand (or refuse to accept) is that intelligent, capable people – those who build businesses and create employment for others – are anticipatory in nature. Businesses, markets, governments (some, not all), and entire sectors of the global economy are all anticipatory in nature.
It’s understandable that if a proprietor of a small business is concerned about his or her economic future, they are naturally more conservative with their capital and the manner with which that capital is deployed. It’s human nature.
If you believe your taxes will soon skyrocket under the cloak of redistribution, you conserve. If you believe that energy costs are about to increase due to specious legislation such as “Cap and Trade”, you hesitate to invest in plant and equipment. If you see a government beholden to labor unions and a President intent on “turning the country purple” with pending legislation such as the oddly named “Employee Free Choice Act”, you naturally have concerns over future labor costs.
Increased concern means fewer employees. Too much concern causes businesses to take a hard look at their current staff. If you see the regulatory pendulum swing so far in the restrictive direction that it puts your business at an increasingly competitive disadvantage, you do your best to simply maintain the status quo.
Why consider expansion when the prudent thing to do is wait? If you anticipate government dominance of health care, you take a wait and see attitude on employee benefits. If you see massive government deficits as far as the eye can see which will throttle the economic vitality of this country and the lives of Americans for generations to come, you simply stop investment in the future. If you see a reluctance to rein in frivolous lawsuits with any meaningful tort reform in the name of political expediency, you manage your business in an overly cautious manner out of concern that you could be the target of one of those suits.
We’ve recently heard rumblings of a “war tax”. We’ve heard the possibility of no limit on Social Security taxes. We’ve heard of a punitive surtax on upper incomes to offset “health care for all”. Now we’re hearing of an additional Medicare surtax. All of this has a negative effect on investment. And it has a negative effect on innovation.
If you see the potential for hyperinflation and a continued marginalization of the dollar, you play defense. You don’t play offense. You don’t spend. You don’t hire. You certainly don’t put capital at risk. You hold on to your company and what you have for dear life until the storm hopefully passes. You make do with less. Unfortunately, that’s the situation we’re faced with today.
Government policy intended to penalize the targeted upper income earners in the name of social reform in turn ends up penalizing those who can least afford it. Regrettably, once again, the law of unintended consequences.
Government created taxpayer financed public sector jobs are not the answer. Far from it. In an environment where approximately 80% of private sector job creation comes from small to medium sized businesses, now is the time for sound economic policy to trump the great society social architects of “progressive” big government.
And it’s not simply job creation. Those very people who have the ability to create private sector jobs are also the same segment of our society who control a disproportionate share of discretionary spending as well as a large portion of charitable contributions. It’s a vicious cycle. One doesn’t continue without the other.
The current fallacy in government is that we need to spend our way out of this recession. This is naïve, amateurish and dead wrong. The only way we as a country are going to extricate ourselves from this economic free fall is to grow our way out of it.
Washington needs to step back, take a deep breath, and for once make policy decisions that are in the best interests of the United States and not simply consolidation of power for a particular political party. The danger of not doing so is too great.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 7:28 am 7:28 am
It is time for a change. Bernanke is a very decent person whe meant well but his too big to fail and assistance in the creation of TARP ended bailing out the sharks on wall street who then turned around and gave away the tax payers money as bonuses. The economy developed in a lob sided manner helping the banks and further pushing down main street.
Posted by: gjkotw01 | January 22, 2010, 7:32 am 7:32 am
Who would replace him? Paul Volker is 83 years old.
Posted by: Cw | January 22, 2010, 7:35 am 7:35 am
END THE FED!!!!
If we can’t do that, I nominate Walter Williams!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Don Maes | January 22, 2010, 7:49 am 7:49 am
We don’t have to go back to Alan Greenspan, we could stop with Paulson who set the wheels in motion for the Bailouts on his way out the door.
It is probably younger people who post on these stories, but “sweeties”, I have watched for Decades as Big Businesses, INCLUDING the Banking system has “rapidly” sent our country in a “tailspin”. It was the DEREGULATION of these Big companies that has allowed for these end results.
There has to be RULES to everything! Big Corporations has Ruled since the 1980′s..and you haven’t seen Anything Yet! There are some who has put party afiliations before the good of the country, more now than ever, to keep the American people in the “dark” about the policies that created this Mess.. and Want No Form of Change. I’m not confused…..I understand very well the Change that the President is and has being talking about. Others “Pretend” they don’t because it is the System that they and their party Put In Place…to benefit Not you or me..but the powerful. SOLUTION TO OPPOSE: MAKE YOU FEEL THE SYSTEM WORKS WHILE DISTRACTING YOU WITH WARS, ANGER, HATE, RACISM..In order to Change something there is a Process that involves Denial. It is the President’s job to get REAL honest and tell the American People Just what is going on…maybe in 2nd grade terms for many, and maybe they’ll see “What, Where and When” Your Country has Became What it is Today. NO ONE CAN GET HONEST AND SOLVE THE PROBLEMS UNTIL THE “BLINDERS” ARE OFF, AND THAT INCLUDES ALL AMERICANS.
Posted by: sara | January 22, 2010, 7:51 am 7:51 am
I remember a cross country trip I took in the early 80′s. Those people out west are rabid in their opposition to the Fed and a non-gold standard.
Posted by: LongT | January 22, 2010, 7:56 am 7:56 am
Most of us think that “replacing” a person is the Answer…. Just part of the solution…Voting for people that has the courage to Change the System that Causes these problems are the REAL answer. To unravel these long standing Policies takes time and methods, and This is the “part” of Change that looks and feels scary. And Fear is Not a Good feeling, so we just continue on down the Road to Self-Destruction, because we want to ‘feel good”.
Posted by: sara | January 22, 2010, 8:02 am 8:02 am
The problem is not Bernanke, it is our fiat monetary system. When we get into trouble we print and borrow more money to get us out in the short run, piling up huge debt in the long run. This will only end in a catastrophe no matter who is in the Fed.
Posted by: Mike B | January 22, 2010, 8:09 am 8:09 am
Ron Paul for Fed Chairman!
Posted by: Stephen Blackpool | January 22, 2010, 8:10 am 8:10 am
Bernanke may be a whiz at accounting, but he lacks the aggressive nature to maintain control of his duties.
Too bad, as his grizzled looks are kind of cute and appeal to the PR part of required of position.
The people need a gtoold old fashioned agressive fiscal conservative miser to run the banking committee. Someone anti-Vegas.
Where are you, Mr Mooney?
Posted by: KsDevil | January 22, 2010, 8:26 am 8:26 am
Without a super majority in the Senate nothing will get done. When the Republicans are not trying to destory our government they are obstructing its operations. How many G-NO-P operatives are still embedded in governmant after all these years of right-wing infiltration. It is hard to fight a war overseas when the saboteurs are stabbing you in the back every minute of every day.
Posted by: Nova B | January 22, 2010, 8:27 am 8:27 am
It seems the democrats don’t have enough votes to do much of anything these days.
Posted by: LongT | January 22, 2010, 8:28 am 8:28 am
Alan Greenspan is left out becuase he was one of the saboteurs who created this mess. Even he admitted that, or have you been asleep the last 30 years.
Posted by: Nova B | January 22, 2010, 8:29 am 8:29 am
I’m just going to make him “Czar of the Federal Reserve” and bypass all this “checks and balances” nonsense.
I AM ABOVE THE LAW!
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama | January 22, 2010, 8:29 am 8:29 am
Dave Ramsey for Fed Chair!
Posted by: Bob | January 22, 2010, 8:32 am 8:32 am
The “the casino-type activities of large financial companies” referenced by the loud noise in Vermont had been going on long before Bernanke stepped into his role in the Fed. In fact, they were cemented in place as a part of modern finance during the 90′s when Clinton was in office. Bernanke didnt cause the mess, he’s been cleaning it up. He averted a 2nd Great Depression. As bad as 10% unemployment sounds, just be thankfull we arent all dealing with 30% unemployment. Ditto for stocks, 65% bear market is no fun (peak to trough), be thankfull we’ve retraced most of that and the world recovery seems to be gaining traction. It’s still not the 80% slide incurred during the depression. Not enough is being said about what was done. The finger pointing isn’t going to solve problems. Ask any academic, there are very few people if any, who could replace Bernanke with the experience and qualifications he has. If you want reform, let’s pass a law that congress and the president from now on need ot listen more closely to the Fed. Last I checked congress’s approval rating was in the 20% range, and Obama’s, not too far behind.
Posted by: Chris | January 22, 2010, 8:33 am 8:33 am
Stephen Blackpool you have it right!! RON PAUL FOR FED CHAIR!!!
Posted by: fairpolitics2009 | January 22, 2010, 8:35 am 8:35 am
Yea, blame the banks.. sure, that will work, always somebody else to blame. I think it is obvious the democrats learned nothing from Tuesdays election and I have my doubts that the republicans did either.. The epicenter of all this country’s problems is Washington DC! Tuesday didn’t teach them anything maybe November will.
Posted by: mcmal1bu | January 22, 2010, 8:37 am 8:37 am
Ron Paul as chairman of the Federal Reserve.
Posted by: Why Not | January 22, 2010, 8:42 am 8:42 am
The White House is not commenting and the Congress is holding up his nomination because some would rather have Larrry Summers as Fed Chairman. God help us if that happens!
Posted by: Peted | January 22, 2010, 8:42 am 8:42 am
“Roll Call reported this week that at the Senate Democratic caucus meeting on Wednesday, “according to senators, liberals spoke out against”
As far as I know the term Liberal and Republican do not go together therefore Nova, it is difficult as to how you discern that is republicans, all by themselves, holding up this nomination.
It appears there are a few Democrats who have luke warm feelings about this nomination also.
Posted by: david | January 22, 2010, 8:46 am 8:46 am
Bernanke a criminal of the first order as is Paulsen, Geithner, and Greenspan.
Posted by: Ricardo | January 22, 2010, 8:49 am 8:49 am
Everyone should read what gjkotw01 posted they hit the nail on the head all this other crap everyone is complaining about is just that crap. This is Reagenomics 101 everyone should study it because it’s effective. Or you can just sit at home and continue to collect unemployment for the next three years. Confidence is key to business and confidence comes with security for the future. Obama is a volatile leader changing his policy from day to day based on polls. Mid term elections are coming and could be our only way to preserve this country’s economic security.
Posted by: Ross | January 22, 2010, 8:56 am 8:56 am
Ron Paul for Fed Chair???!!! This guy is a libertarian. He doesn’t want any govt. Why would he want to be working for the govt? What would Paul have done when the economy was in a freefall in 2008? Less or no govt means he would have done nothing or very little to keep govt hands out of the problem. What impact would that have had on the financial collapse? How would Paul handle inflation or stagflation or depression for that matter? My guess is Hoover or worse
Posted by: Bob | January 22, 2010, 8:57 am 8:57 am
First of all he was appointed the first time by Pres. Bush. Second Alan Greenspan didn’t do such a hot job, he even admitted mistakes. I think no matter who we have in charge if the rest of the tribe is corrupt….we need to weed out all the corruption and fraud and the Republicans should being by looking in their own backyard. All the gleeful Republican faces yesterday when the Supreme Ct. reversed the decision and now big corporations can spend $$$ on ads. and I love it when people say there is limit on what $$$ they can contribute. Well if they can spend all they want on ads the candidate will owe them big time so what’s the difference? This mess was made in a big part by Republicans…I’m not saying the Dems are guilt free, they are not, but the Party of No created all this mess….
Posted by: Barb | January 22, 2010, 8:59 am 8:59 am
Dear Barb
If Ron Paul was in charge the econmy woud pt have been in frr fall!
Posted by: JIm Cramer | January 22, 2010, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Hey nova–you are funny-you know funny like a clown, it dosn’t matter if you are dem or repub , if they allowed wall st. to do criminal acts they should be arrested. Get ready for a vote in November to remember! The difference between the Bush administration and B.O is that Bush would admit when he made a mistake. B.O. just points fingers.
Posted by: scotty1700 | January 22, 2010, 9:16 am 9:16 am
There are some insightful comments here, but there are no overnight fixes. I am not an expert on the fed chair other than they decide when to change the fed rate. I do know that Obama and many of his appointees know nothing about business, and, I too, think Buffet has lost touch with reality and has used this to make money. Obama is the one that has to be taken out of office, not Bernanke because as someone aptly pointed out, fear what you will get from Obama’s selection. Keeping interest rates low now is the only thing that is keeping us out of depression; if anyone wants to know what that was like, find some books written during that time. The old saying “you ain’t seen nothing yet, babe” applies. We got into this mess, by and large by greed and politics. Politics set up the rules for cheap money for mortages and the greed of the people because they paid no attention to what they could afford; others flipped in and out of houses to make money; mortage brokers were letting 19 year olds with no credit history and jobs that they had only held for a short time with min wages buy houses. All they wanted was to get the large fees they were charging. Unless you were involved in selling a house, you would not have known to what extent this had gotten out of hand. It is not too different from the .com bubble. People were buying including myself, stocks with basically no PE and no future. Again, greed. Right after the Jimmy Carter era, I bought a house with a flexiable rate and you could put the interest on the principle. Almost all those houses went bankrupt because when the interest rate went up, there was no way to pay the mortage which had gone up via the extra interest. No one bailed us out and I kept mine by renting it out and renting when my job moved me. I still rent it out and saw the day that the interest rate went to 5% and is now paid off. Mostly during those years, it was an average of 10%. In both situations, I paid the consequences by loosing a lot of my hard earned money from working two jobs in the stock market and loosing money every month by having to rent my house out for considerable less than the loan.
We the people make mistakes and we the people only learn if we pay the consequences. Far too many people today live from cradle to grave on the government which is nothing more than taking the money from the people that earn it and they decide how to spend it instead of you. If they do not have enough, they just run off more and send you the bill. Sad huh? We the people just keep voting these same people back into office based on what “they get for you and your state” Bernanke is not at fault nearly as much as “We the people”
I say we need to stop whinning and do something about it.
Posted by: B Brown | January 22, 2010, 9:17 am 9:17 am
Ron Paul would be perfect for the job. Remember the Fed caused this mess as they cause most bubbles wiht irrationally low interest rates and ever expanding the money supply by creating trillions out of thin air. The negative real rates Greenspan gave us fueled the home bubble (helped a great deal by our wonderful Govt promoting home ownership to anyone who had a heartbeat). The Fed exists to do two things..always bail out bankers and to fund big govt (last year Helo Ben printed $300B out of thin air to fund the US Govt…). And now we are told Bend saved the world? Remember the Great Depression of 1920? Oh you don’t…unemployment over 20% all caused by the Fed’s printing of money to pay for WWI. and What did Harding do? Let prices fall, cut govt spending, told the fed to stop screwing around with interest rates (let the market set them), liquidate the bad debt and within 18 months you had the most robust recovery ever in history. And how we are being told we have to keep “spending” and reinflate the bubble (gotta keep those house prices high)…oh yeah..keep spending trillions we don’t have to subsidize sectors of the economy which need to be downsized so capital and labor can be deployed for real productive growth.
With over $100T in unfunded liabilities (and less not forget Barney Frank telling us that not one nickel of tax dollars would be spent bailing out Freddie and Fannie..)..its time to stop the corportaism and corruption..end the Fed, it is immoral, unconstitutional and bad economics..
Posted by: Titus Pullo | January 22, 2010, 9:18 am 9:18 am
This is nothing but politics. In the end nothing will change. The only manner in which this regulation will be effective is to have it pass with the same speed with which TARP was shoved down our throats.
Posted by: Ken Brooks | January 22, 2010, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Barb, look at the depression of 1920-1921 following WWI, no government, no fed, no intervention at all in the free markets! They recovered within 18 months. Why do people always think that government is the answer to everything??? It just creates more problems down the road. Are we not smart enough to figure things out on our own or must we always delegate our issues to elected officials, barely any of which can actually be trusted to do right by the people??? Government in its current form cannot save us, nor will it. Ron Paul as Fed Chairmen? That would be too funny, his first act would be to lock the doors and turn off the lights!!!
Posted by: Matt | January 22, 2010, 9:24 am 9:24 am
We pay 100 million daily in interest on 800 billion debt that the Chinese now own. You can not recover the economy by living on credit cards.
Posted by: scotty1700 | January 22, 2010, 9:25 am 9:25 am
Repeal 1913 the year the Fed came into being and the year that the 16th Amendment brought the financial tax police state down on the heads of citizens.
Bernanke has no exit plan.
What I do think if foolish is lay person’s impression that banks caused this problem. They didn’t.
1) it was caused by investment insurance companies like AIG that wrote policies beyond solvency
2) The foreign hedge funds were allowed by the SEC to engage in massive short selling and gang tackling of banks.
3) regulators used mark to market accounting rather than cost accounting to determine if mortgages were solvent.
Gov made the housing bubble with cheap money and the homeowner got homeowner equity loans on bubble mark to markets evaluations. To attack banks as obama has is quite stupid and is a pandering attempt to the torch and pitchfork crowd who are idiots.
Posted by: Lordrobot | January 22, 2010, 9:27 am 9:27 am
Just because the Dems FAILED in their promise of Change DOES NOT mean that the GOP were right all along. It is quite the opposite. the GOP are still and have been for years a CANCER to this nation in their PRO CORPORATE, PRO WAR, PRO-ELITE-WEALTH policies that have dogged this nation into what it has become today. The Dems on the other hand are simply spineless. The largest problem this nation has is that THE PEOPLE (i.e., the majority of “middle class Americans” have no voice and are FORCED to vote for the WEALTH that backs the Dems and the GOP. This wealth is now SUPERCHARGED since the GOP majority of the Supreme Court just passed that dreadful law that allows wealthy corporations to fuel this problem even more by lifting the restrictions of campaign donation.
Posted by: Rick in SB | January 22, 2010, 9:30 am 9:30 am
Now if we can just get rid of Pelosi and bo! PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID OF THEIR GOVERNMENT………..GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE AFRAID OF THEIR PEOPLE!!!
Posted by: watchinbo | January 22, 2010, 9:31 am 9:31 am
Committing ourselves to 2 long drawn out expensive wars, tax breaks during a time or war and doubling our debt in 8 years is not the path to tax breaks. I would love to have more but our country can’t afford them.
Posted by: Girlie | January 22, 2010, 9:34 am 9:34 am
No the American people are sick of Obama ,palosi,reid,frank,dodd and all their croies POLICES they are all tax Cheats ,liars and elitits who hate America and are doing everything to destroy it! that’s the problem it’s simple stupid Economy,JOBS,Countrys security ,tweak health insurance STOP THE POWER GRAB!!! their hugh egoes don’t allow them to see the simple truth and they will pay lip service to the people but they are who they are I am just glad that Patriotic Amercians got it in one year before more damage can be done keep voting these bastards out until we get it right !!! OH YEah! untie the militarys hands and truly support them so that we can sucessed against this evil enemy and get the hell out Stop will all this PC crap!!!!With Obongo in office and all his cast of clowns America is NOT safe.
Posted by: chuck | January 22, 2010, 9:35 am 9:35 am
In college virtually all that is taught are the theories of each respective degree field. When one graduates, they enter the work force and quickly jettison these theories in favor of the realities of the marketplace learned through on the job training.
The problem with the current administration is it is being run by academicians who believe in their unworkable theories. Having never worked in the marketplace they have no concept of the consequences of trying to place their theoretical square pegs into the round holes of reality.
Posted by: Robb | January 22, 2010, 9:35 am 9:35 am
Bernanke is not the problem, Obama’s economic policies are. He keeps harping on jobs but his policies are what are preventing people from being hired. Obama has been more at war with the private sector of this country than he is against the jihadists. I realize that many will disagree with me but take a step back and think about this for a minute. Who in their right mind would want to take the risk of borrowing a sizable amount of money to expand their business with mandatory insurance and cap and trade hanging over their heads? Obama is the one who created all of this uncertainty and that is why he should be held responsible for the results of his actions.
Posted by: Jim | January 22, 2010, 9:36 am 9:36 am
save our country ron paul for federel reserve chairman
Posted by: james | January 22, 2010, 9:39 am 9:39 am
Stop the Blame game Obama is the President it’s his all his deal and stop the crying every administration inherits the previous admin issues big & small that is the job he wanted and got now he doesn’t like it to dam bad!!If he feels that he got a raw deal left to him why the HELL didn’t he consentrate on reducing the defict and fixing fraud in mediaid/medicare system and Acorn how about really fighting terrorist instead of making kissy face with them NO he is hell bent on the distruction of America and this is all he wants it’s about the adgenda and power people don’t be fooled Bernaki is another excuse and one more person to blame! this Man needs to be impeached.
Posted by: chuck | January 22, 2010, 9:42 am 9:42 am
In college virtually all that is taught are the theories of each respective degree field. When one graduates, they enter the work force and quickly jettison these theories in favor of the realities of the marketplace learned through on the job training.
The problem with the current administration is it is being run by academicians who believe in their unworkable theories. Having never worked in the marketplace they have no concept of the consequences of trying to place their theoretical square pegs into the round holes of reality.
Posted by: Robb | Jan 22, 2010 9:35:59 AM~~~~~~~~~~~
Excellent post! I couldn’t agree more.
Posted by: Diane | January 22, 2010, 9:42 am 9:42 am
Get rid of Bernanke. Put Volcker back in charge. At least then we’d know Obama was serious.
Posted by: Steve | January 22, 2010, 9:42 am 9:42 am
Get rid of Bernanke. Put Volcker back in charge. At least then we’d know Obama was serious.
Posted by: Steve | January 22, 2010, 9:43 am 9:43 am
More blame game. so sickening. the senators should be looking at themselves and not blaming Bernanke. He did his job well when the crisis came. I was helping my son with an ongoing report Dec last year and he choice the economic collapse. We have Ben Bernanke and Paulson to thank for saving the economy from total demise. Another Great Depression was looming, they held it to really little more than a market correction when you think about it. This guy is smart and knows what he’s doing … probably why some want him out. Want to thank the president for economic recovery? Thank this guy first.
Posted by: Phil | January 22, 2010, 9:44 am 9:44 am
You know…we wouldn’t have to do any of this if we just got rid of The Federal Reserve. It really hasn’t worked out so well for us now has it? Ron Paul was right.
Posted by: Colin | January 22, 2010, 9:52 am 9:52 am
Bernanke is a national hero. When the economy was on the slide with the anticipation of electing Americas first socialist president the world started a slide into a deflation cycle and a confidence crisis in the banks. Solution? Print about $1 trillion dollars basically doubling M1 to match the pace of deflation. This move along with similar moves by other major world currencies thwarted a financial crash because matching the deflation by deflating the dollar saved us from the normal case of economic collapse during deflationary periods where people are always waiting on a better deal and never spending anything. To repeat: Bernanke almost doubled the money supply with no cost of inflation to the government or the consumer.
He then used this money to shore-up the banking industry. Combining this ‘free’ money with the money provided by TARP (that has been almost completely recovered now; sans Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and GMAC) saved us from a world depression. Understand, TARP is mostly paid back and Bernanke’s work at the fed cost us NOTHING in inflation. It was free money invested in the banking industry and will therefore yield an infinite return on investment because it costs us nothing.
The problem with the economy now is related to the huge pork-barrel stimulus passed after Bernanke saved the economy; combined with the punish-the-producer political direction the economy is tending in. When health care is settled (hopefully scuttled) and the ridiculous leftist tax grabs like Cap and Trade are thrown out then we will start to see economic recovery in this country. And then the world will start to see us as a viable investment again.
Posted by: JimmyNashville | January 22, 2010, 9:54 am 9:54 am
The Republicans DESTROYED our country. It probably won’t recover. The America we knew is gone. Gov size and debt explodes under Republicans. Deregulation does not work, people are too greedy. Without a feeling of security or confidence in our financial institutions no one will invest and growth will be stagnant, like it has.
Posted by: Miele | January 22, 2010, 9:56 am 9:56 am
The country needs a radical like RON PAUL you have to ask for alot to get what you want
Posted by: james | January 22, 2010, 9:57 am 9:57 am
Thank god men of integrity like Ron Paul are fighting the good fight against the thieves at the Federal Reserve, and the elite banking interests they represent. Wake up people – these parasites are leeching off your prosperity. You cannot dispute that the dollar has lost 95% of its value since Fed took over monetary policy in 1913. This is a hidden tax that has gone into the pockets of the banking elite.
Posted by: zack | January 22, 2010, 10:01 am 10:01 am
I’m cleaning house when election time comes if you’re in there now I will vote you out. No one could do worse and Maybe just Maybe they will listen to the poeple instead of special interest groups..I mean it I’m fet up with this whole sorry government thing…VOTE VOTE VOTE WE WILL BE HEARD
JUST BY SHEER NUMBERS…..PEACE AND LOVE
Posted by: Barbara Beck | January 22, 2010, 10:01 am 10:01 am
I think that the Federal Reserve needs to be audited and they need to explain where all the TARP money went before Bernake is retermed. For all of you that are still try to pin the blame on Bush; it won’t work. The collapse happened because of the Fannie and Freddie debacle, the democratic controled banking committee, i.e., B. Frank, C. Dodd were the primary suspects who forced the banks to give loans to folks they knew couldn’t pay them back.
Posted by: toledofan | January 22, 2010, 10:03 am 10:03 am
What nerve Congress has to blame Bernanke – they stripped him of the regulatory powers he needed and their relationship with the banks (one Banking Committee Senator’s wife was placed on the Board of one of the big banks) must make anyone hesitant to act against the banks!
Congress repealed the Glass-Steagall Act that regulated the banks and kept commercial and investment banks separate, replaced it with the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act which turned them loose. Although it’s sponsors are all GOP, it was Clinton’s aide Larry Summers who pushed it through so BOTH parties are responsible for this.
If Bernanke shouldn’t be reconfirmed because of what wasn’t regulated, the members of Congress should likewise resign.
Furthermore, if a Walter Cronkite was still alive today, he wouldn’t be passing gossipy tips along like Tapper is doing here. He would be asking why they’re not blaming themselves AND not doing anything about reinstituting Glass-Steagall or its equivalent.
Posted by: The_Mick | January 22, 2010, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Eliminating the Fed is one of the most stupid ideas I’ve ever heard. Turn the printing presses over the to the politically motivated government? Are you guys out of your freakin’ minds?
Posted by: JimmyNashville | January 22, 2010, 10:06 am 10:06 am
Bush pushed for homeownership in 2002(read his speeches) and thought saving for down payments took too long. Then Google ADDI which was pushed through by the REPUBLICANS and signed into law by Bush in 2003. Also ARMS were rarely used before 2003. Try educating yourselves instead of listening to right wing garbage.
Posted by: Miele | January 22, 2010, 10:09 am 10:09 am
Miele, I guess Clinton had nothing to do with sub-prime!
Posted by: rj | January 22, 2010, 10:13 am 10:13 am
The Federal Reserve System must be abolished.
Posted by: Bob | January 22, 2010, 10:13 am 10:13 am
If you turn the money presses over to the US congress you we might as well start hedging the US dollar with Zimbabwean dollar ’cause it’s a cheap investment that will certainly go up in relative value.
Congress can’t even stop spending when it has to take on hard debt for its excesses. Do you really think giving it the power to print money is going to help the US economy any?
I hope you guys don’t really vote.
Posted by: JimmyNashville | January 22, 2010, 10:16 am 10:16 am
END THE FED
Posted by: Allen | January 22, 2010, 10:16 am 10:16 am
Miele; no reply? If you read my previous, you would have seen that I basically said they are all bums and DC needs to be cleaned out!
Posted by: rj | January 22, 2010, 10:18 am 10:18 am
Please explain how Clinton and the Republican Congress caused this?
Posted by: Miele | January 22, 2010, 10:21 am 10:21 am
Getting rid of Bernanke is just a first step. The Congress needs to look at how to restructure the monetary system and those in charge. The FED has become totally the instrument of greedy Wall Street firms and the financial elite. It does a very poor job of serving the American people. We ought to get rid of it and return its functions to the Dept. of Treasury, where the functions belong.
Posted by: Peter777 | January 22, 2010, 10:22 am 10:22 am
The Republicans DESTROYED our country. It probably won’t recover. The America we knew is gone. Gov size and debt explodes under Republicans. Deregulation does not work, people are too greedy. Without a feeling of security or confidence in our financial institutions no one will invest and growth will be stagnant, like it has.
Posted by: Miele | Jan 22, 2010 9:56:39 AM
And then some idiot like this comes along.
FDR was the father of big government as far as America is concerned. I know liberals left that out of the books for all of us to learn in public school and all but look into the New Deal. Which presidents admin bought Amtrak and put a no compete clause in their so we can never have an advanced high speed rail like other countries have? Which presidents admin bought car companies? Which presidents admin wants to buy the healthcare system that is a disaster waiting to happen?
You can’t reaally be that dense. Oh wait, you’re one of the ones who voted for an unqualified president where even a plumber figured out he was all about income redistribution. If a plumber could figure it out how dumb does that make you?
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Hey Wall Street and Congress. I want the money back I lost in my 401K. Do we need an army to come in to get it, mine and everyone elses?
Posted by: Mickey | January 22, 2010, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Miele; Clinton started the sub-prime which was the reason we had the problem. And, I think you are missing the point, they are all bums!
Posted by: rj | January 22, 2010, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Hey Ben, don’t let the door hit you on the way out!
Posted by: TRE | January 22, 2010, 10:24 am 10:24 am
In exchange for financial support for his presidential campaign, Woodrow Wilson’s agreed that if elected, he would sign the Federal Reserve Act. In December 1913, while many members of Congress were home for Christmas, the Federal Reserve Act was rammed through Congress and signed by President Wilson. Regarding his actions Wilson later admitted.
“I have unwittingly ruined my country”.
Posted by: Dave | January 22, 2010, 10:27 am 10:27 am
One thing I’ve learned the past year. President have very limited power. Even the exalted Ron Paul wouldnt get anything done. He will find the establishments will oppose him.
Posted by: tony | January 22, 2010, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Ron Paul the wisest man in our Government. A reincarnation of a founding father. If we follow his lead we just might make it through this.
Posted by: Celeste | January 22, 2010, 10:28 am 10:28 am
Why is it that everyone forgets the underlying cause of the crises was lying cheating individuals taking mortgages they new they could not afford. That is not the fault of the banks or the fed (I have no love of the fed). And it is not the banks fault that our government decided to prop them up instead of letting them fail.
Posted by: Eckhardt | January 22, 2010, 10:30 am 10:30 am
Seems like this board has been taken over by Ron Paul supporters. Good – I hope that wakes some of you people up.
Posted by: zack | January 22, 2010, 10:30 am 10:30 am
Greenspan was able to bring down the market due to his “tightning”. He tightened until the tech bubble burst and left investors in a market freefall. History said that if you continue tightning, things will fall apart. He did not have judgement, he just did not like people making money so easily so he put a STOP to that. Bernanke has never done anything to justify him being in his position. Why was he not warning us of this disaster. Did he see the train coming, NO. Greenspan did try to warn about this disaster coming but although he was paid to look after the economy, the Democratic Congress did not heed his advice, they know better than the person they put in that job. We might as well put a janitor in the position so we would not have to pay so much for someone we will ignore anyway. Bernanke does not know what to do and he is also in the Obama koolaid drinkers camp, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Ron Paul would be the best person to fill this job as he has much better ideas and experience in finance. We would be lucky to get him into the Feds top spot. He is too conservative for this congress to select him for this job. They want another Obama yes, yes, yes man. Maybe a good historian for this spot, at least they might have an idea of what does not work. Even Buffett is now saying we are in trouble if our debt climbs higher. He had to give his opinion about the economy in the newspaper since his “ear of the President” must be so full of “it” that he cannot be heard in the WH.
Posted by: Janis | January 22, 2010, 10:30 am 10:30 am
hours later I came back to this page…and the rants continues based on party afiliations and how tight the “blinders” are on.
Our regulatory system, big corporate takeovers, tax shelters for corporations that eventually moved their companies overseas, while enjoying America’s benefits were part of the Globalization of “Free Markets” and “trickled-down” economics of the 1980′s. THAT SAME SYSTEM OF DECEIT IS STILL IN PLACE! All it takes is a person with “guts” and the support of the America people to Dismantle these policies….but “he or she” will scare the hell out of the opposition, and “he or “she” will be labeled a Socialist, with the very ones who created this system “screaming” the loudest. LOL
Posted by: sara | January 22, 2010, 10:31 am 10:31 am
He’s pro-choice and believes same sex marriage is settled law in MA. Since he’s not right wing enough, the Republicans will grow to hate him and call him a RINO. So basically both parties will ignore him and he won’t be able to accomplish much. So in the grand scheme of things, Brown was a dumb choice.
Posted by: Miele | January 22, 2010, 10:32 am 10:32 am
Miele; No health care for your entitlement friends, so he served a purpose if that is all he does. Hah
Posted by: rj | January 22, 2010, 10:35 am 10:35 am
bernanke like paulson, geithner, summers, volcker and virtually all of the rest of the cheerleaders completely failed to see this coming. They all pushed for more and more deregulation completely ignoring the reasons the regulations were there in the first place. bernanke is paid the big bucks to be responsible and he needs to be held responsible. If he, paulson, bushjunior, geithner, dimon, john thain, vikram pandit, etc. etc. had any integrity at all they would admit they screwed up, apologize, resign and return their ill gotten, unearned salaries. bushjunior and paulson may have seen it coming and tried to push down the road so it would happen under Obama but they screwed that up like everything else they tried. Obama’s biggest fault is that he tries to be bipartisan rather than realizing the republiCONs are traitors who would rather see the country fail than have him succeed. chuckie grassley did say one correct thing when he suggested the banksters should behave like the Japanese and do the honorable thing when they screwed up so bad but his natural republiCON tendencies took hold when he apologized and said he really did not mean it. The buck needs to stop somewhere and bernanke was one of the dogs on point when this all fell apart.
Posted by: harry canary | January 22, 2010, 10:44 am 10:44 am
The people they should not reconfirm, are themselves.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | January 22, 2010, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Miele; I am Pro-choice and could careless if two Foe Foe’s want to get married. But he didn’t let a corrupt health-care plan pass and that kills you and all your entitlement friends.
Posted by: rj | January 22, 2010, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Bothpartiessuck; I agree
Posted by: rj | January 22, 2010, 10:47 am 10:47 am
The Federal Reserve is the root cause of our current crisis, just as it was the root cause of the Great Depression. Manipulation of interest rates and the availability of easy credit leads to malinvestment by both businesses and individuals. It creates a bubble, just like the one we experienced and just like the one that preceded the crash in 1929.
Failure to recognize that a central bank makes the economy inherently LESS STABLE will ensure that we’ll keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again. The Federal Reserve must be abolished if we are to ever enjoy increasing prosperity for all income levels.
Our dollar has lost around ninety-six percent of its purchasing power since the creation of the Fed. That’s absolutely insane. I think we’ve given it more than enough time to find out if a “managed” economy works. It doesn’t. It didn’t work for the Soviet Union, and it will never work for us.
Posted by: gb8898 | January 22, 2010, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Bernanke is a national hero. When the economy was on the slide with the anticipation of electing America’s first socialist president the world started a slide into a deflation cycle and a confidence crisis in the banks. Solution? Print about $1 trillion dollars basically doubling M1 to match the pace of deflation. This move along with similar moves by other major world currencies thwarted a financial crash because matching the deflation by deflating the dollar saved us from the normal case of economic collapse during deflationary periods where people are always waiting on a better deal and never spending anything. To repeat: Bernanke almost doubled the money supply with no cost of inflation to the government or the consumer.
He then used this money to shore-up the banking industry. Combining this ‘free’ money with the money provided by TARP (that has been almost completely recovered now; sans Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and GMAC) saved us from a world depression. Understand, TARP is mostly paid back and Bernanke’s work at the fed cost us NOTHING in inflation. It was free money invested in the banking industry and will therefore yield an infinite return on investment because it costs us nothing.
The problem with the economy now is related to the huge pork-barrel stimulus passed after Bernanke saved the economy; combined with the punish-the-producer political direction the economy is tending in. When health care is settled (hopefully scuttled) and the ridiculous leftist tax grabs like Cap and Trade are thrown out then we will start to see economic recovery in this country. And then the world will start to see us as a viable investment again.
Posted by: JimmyNashville | January 22, 2010, 10:47 am 10:47 am
I’m confused about all the fuss about big banks bonus. All the banks that actually went down like Wachovia, Lehman, Washington Mutual because of the mortgage lending to people who can not afford. Why aren’t we fixing that. Why isn’t AIG in the news? They are the biggest borrower of the tax payers money and they still haven’t paid it back.
Posted by: SG | January 22, 2010, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Let me guess, Repukelicans are all happy that Brown won because he could put a stop to healthcare right? BS! Brown is a big government Repukelican. They’ll offer him some kickback and he’ll fold like a lawn chair.
Mass doesn’t produce conservatives anymore. Hell no one produces conservatives anymore. Your most far right politician would be considered a lefty back in the day.
You can’t win anymore unless you’re offering up some BS to the people that they can’t produce. Once Americans wake up and vote for the guys who are going to trim the fat in Washington this will continue to be a back and forth looting as our expense.
Jessie Ventura said it best. Washington is like the WWF. When the cameras are rolling Repukelicans and Dumbascraps hate each other. They’re jumping off the top rope lowering the elbows on each other. Pelosi is picking up folding chairs and smashing Repukelicans over the head!
Then the lights turn off and the cameras quit rolling. They all head off to lunch to have a nice steak dinner and laugh at the American people for being so naive.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 10:53 am 10:53 am
I voted for “The Body” when I lived in MN. He did what he said he was going to do and got out.
Posted by: rj | January 22, 2010, 10:55 am 10:55 am
Oh please, Recovering Bush supporters now call themselves Libertarians! I’m a real Moderate who complains about both parties. I can tell the phonies a mile away. I was against bailouts, stimulus, health care, basically anything that was adding to our debt.
Posted by: Miele | January 22, 2010, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Everyone wants to throw people under the bus. Who do they want to put in there–probably nobody. Some of these positions are going on over a year being empty. The Obstructionist Republicans wouldn’t approve of anyone Obama tries to get in there. Demint would use his one vote to object to everyone and anyone because that’s what he does. Obama will still be trying to put people in these jobs at the end of his term. That’s is if there is anyone left that would be stupid enough to take the job.
Posted by: June | January 22, 2010, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Bernanke is a national hero. When the economy was on the slide with the anticipation of electing America’s first socialist president the world started a slide into a deflation cycle and a confidence crisis in the banks. Solution? Print about $1 trillion dollars basically doubling M1 to match the pace of deflation. This move along with similar moves by other major world currencies thwarted a financial crash because matching the deflation by deflating the dollar saved us from the normal case of economic collapse during deflationary periods where people are always waiting on a better deal and never spending anything. To repeat: Bernanke almost doubled the money supply with no cost of inflation to the government or the consumer.
He then used this money to shore-up the banking industry. Combining this ‘free’ money with the money provided by TARP (that has been almost completely recovered now; sans Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and GMAC) saved us from a world depression. Understand, TARP is mostly paid back and Bernanke’s work at the fed cost us NOTHING in inflation. It was free money invested in the banking industry and will therefore yield an infinite return on investment because it costs us nothing.
The problem with the economy now is related to the huge pork-barrel stimulus passed after Bernanke saved the economy; combined with the punish-the-producer political direction the economy is tending in. When health care is settled (hopefully scuttled) and the ridiculous leftist tax grabs like Cap and Trade are thrown out then we will start to see economic recovery in this country. And then the world will start to see us as a viable investment again.
Posted by: JimmyNashville | Jan 22, 2010 10:47:34 AM
The economy is cyclical! The way the media and politicians play to recessions is almost comical! Looks like you and people like you are the ones picking up what they’re laying down.
Bernanke is a puppet to the Private Federal Reserve bankers. He spent trillions so we’re on the hook to the private bankers for the interest on printing money we have the right to print for free. Why are we paying interest on money to be printed when we can print it for free? Which president allowed the biggest scam ever to happen to the American people? It happened long before you were born but they have indoctrinated you well .
All that happened in all of this was the big banks who were a part of the club got money to gobble up all their competition. To big to fail really means you’re to small to succeed.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 11:08 am 11:08 am
Everyone wants to throw people under the bus. Who do they want to put in there–probably nobody. Some of these positions are going on over a year being empty. The Obstructionist Republicans wouldn’t approve of anyone Obama tries to get in there. Demint would use his one vote to object to everyone and anyone because that’s what he does. Obama will still be trying to put people in these jobs at the end of his term. That’s is if there is anyone left that would be stupid enough to take the job.
Posted by: June | Jan 22, 2010 11:07:25 AM
Damn right I don’t want anybody Obama wants in charge of anything. Call it obstructionism or whatever you want to call it but I call it trying to save the Republic.
I can’t find anywhere in the bill of rights or Constitution anything about Czars. In fact, the only country I can find a czar is Russia? Hmmm? Wasn’t Russia communist? Hmmmm? Someone once said nothing in politics is a coincidence. Yeah I know Oblahblah wasn’t the 1st to have a czar but he sure is running wild with the idea.
Wake up sheep and quit following your parties blind. If politicians aren’t going to uphold the constitution of this land which is there to protect you from them then you need to cut bait.
They aren’t trying to gain more power than the constitution allows for your benefit.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 11:15 am 11:15 am
the dems let that affirmitive action hack retire with a $100 million golden parachute from freddie Mae. worse they told him what a good job he was doing by fighting redlining. (let people buy homes with 0 down, no verified income, and questionable apprasials. the only reason ecconomy didn’t fold under Clinton was for the 1st time since ww2 we got a GOP house and senate. this new democratic gang thinks they have a mandate for socialism
Posted by: madmax | January 22, 2010, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Of course the Fed should be the most powerful branch in government, controlling the purse, printing trillions on a whim, making secret deals with other governments, etc.
Nowhere in the Constitution does it say the Congress is given the power of the purse. What nerve the American people have to try and reclaim their money and their freedom from a secretive bureaucratic PRIVATE institution like the Fed. And to hear them complain that their dollar is worth only 5% of what it was worth before the Fed took over! It’s only a 95% robbery of your wealth and savings!
Give me the power to control a nation’s money, and I care not who makes its laws.
RON PAUL is my president.
Posted by: Ron Pizzall | January 22, 2010, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Bernake is NOT a hero. Deflating the dollar has only led to other countries dumping the dollar. He has re-enforced a wall street bubble that should have been done away with by busting up the to big to fails leaving this problem to return again. No inflation? If you look beyond the BS numbers the government puts out everything except houses is more expensive.
Posted by: Troy | January 22, 2010, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Oh please, Recovering Bush supporters now call themselves Libertarians! I’m a real Moderate who complains about both parties. I can tell the phonies a mile away. I was against bailouts, stimulus, health care, basically anything that was adding to our debt.
Posted by: Miele | Jan 22, 2010 11:00:55 AM
I’m not a libertarian. If I would be anything at all I’m a Constitutionalist. I can’t find that party anywhere.
I hated Bush for many things. Just like I hate Obama for many things.
Let’s see, Bush went to war without the vote from Congress. Oh wait, it’s not a war. Silly me, it’s a conflict! I always get those two confused. I always thought when you’re dropping bombs on people it’s war.
Now Obama is a one upper. I full on expect him to declare war on someone soon. Oh wait, he won’t go through congress either which is unconstitutional so it’ll be a conflict as well.
Why are we bailing out banks? Why are we constantly at war? Why is every answer to any problem now spend more money and add more debt?
If you owned a countries money supply and politicians and made more money whenever they ran up debt wouldn’t you want as many wars as possible and for them to sspend as much as possible?
And to think Congress has the right to print and coin our money without interest? HMMMMMMMMMM? Why on earth would we have some private outsiders doing it at a huge expense?
The Private Federal Reserve is the biggest scam ever put on the American people. I don’t like to say tax payer because we fought a war to break away from England over taxes. So whoever says paying taxes is Patriotic “VP Biden” you need to punch them in the face.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 11:25 am 11:25 am
The Federal reserve is a Progressive institution that was inacted to help kill capitalism, by and for the socialists. It needs to go.
Next topic: I am sick of seeing stepinapolis (sic) on television with obama , finishing the presidents’ sentences and telling us ” the American people just don’t get it” in reference to obamacare. Yeah George, we get it, but I don’t think you and Chris Mathews ever will.
Posted by: Gary | January 22, 2010, 11:25 am 11:25 am
People need to understand one thing: Modern economic “theory” (a word which implies validity that is unwarranted) is based on asking “What works best for the government?”
Free market economics, the kind supported by the founders and advanced solely by the Austrian School of economists, asks “What works best FOR THE PEOPLE?” In such a system where the people, and not the government, are of paramount interest, the notion of a central bank is unthinkable.
Democrats and Republicans will never agree to get rid of the Federal Reserve because it would mean they can no longer print money to pay for things we wouldn’t support via taxes. That means no more stupid wars unless we want higher taxes. No more bloated entitlement programs unless we want higher taxes. The dirty little secret is that a central bank allows politicians to circumvent asking us for more money. They simply roll the printing press, inflate the money supply, and devalue all of the money we’ve managed to save. They steal from us.
Inflation is a HIDDEN TAX, and it’s the one politicians love the most. It enables government to grow at the expense of the people, and it is at its most destructive with a central bank like the Federal Reserve.
Posted by: gb8898 | January 22, 2010, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Bernake is NOT a hero. Deflating the dollar has only led to other countries dumping the dollar. He has re-enforced a wall street bubble that should have been done away with by busting up the to big to fails leaving this problem to return again. No inflation? If you look beyond the BS numbers the government puts out everything except houses is more expensive.
Posted by: Troy | Jan 22, 2010 11:24:33 AM
When I heard about Tarp from Bush II I put all my money in Euros. Hell I made out like a bandit. Then Oblahblah came along and he made it rain money. I increased my net worth by over %50 just betting that the crooks in Washington would destroy the dollar.
Bernanke a hero? ROMFLMAO! You’ve got to be kidding!
It’s people who say things like this that make me truly worry about our country. It’s obvious that public school education isn’t working.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Audit the Fed!!
Posted by: Alex | January 22, 2010, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Whoever says:
“no gov. healthcare, no amnesty, no civil trials for jihadists” that wins in 2012.
People’s will. Pretty basic.
Posted by: JoseM | January 22, 2010, 11:35 am 11:35 am
The dems did the same thing for Bush’s judicial Appointments – turnabout is fair play. If you don’t like it don’t set the standard.
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Everyone wants to throw people under the bus. Who do they want to put in there–probably nobody. Some of these positions are going on over a year being empty. The Obstructionist Republicans wouldn’t approve of anyone Obama tries to get in there. Demint would use his one vote to object to everyone and anyone because that’s what he does. Obama will still be trying to put people in these jobs at the end of his term. That’s is if there is anyone left that would be stupid enough to take the job.
Posted by: Alex | January 22, 2010, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Oh really, not enuf votes, eh ?
Well now, that wouldn’t be b/c all the Banks that TARP Bailed Out were borrowing money behind closed doors from the Federal Reserve at 0% interest (that’s ZERO Interest) and then turning around and purchasing US Treasury Bonds that mature at 3 % Interest in 6 months.
Bernanke and Geithner set this up.
How is this not stealing ?
Posted by: Ratt | January 22, 2010, 11:39 am 11:39 am
It’s obvious what the buzz is saying regarding most mainstream News Media (except for FOX) regarding being in the pocket of the Whitehouse Agenda because everyone on the street knows darn well Wall Street is not the main anger but the Whitehouse trying to jam your Socialist Agenda down Americans throats, treat common people like the old feudal system where we’re suppose to shut up & listen to the elitist to run us & discontent in not focusing on bringing the dollar back, increase jobs & small business, less spending & a backlash in the overall not so subtle attempt to make USA another European Union most at ABC, CBS, & esp. MSNBC obviously would lie to help create.
Posted by: Zandra Bri | January 22, 2010, 11:42 am 11:42 am
What makes me amazed is that Bernanke was a REPUBLICAN nominee by Bush II and now the DEMOCRATS are afraid he won’t get renom. Shows thta there really is no party – just US vs them – and they keep changing the rules to their own benefit. The obstructionists- REPUBS and DEMS – are only saying that they aren’t getting what they want. AKA not being bribed enough. Isn’t that what the pork in the bills and nomination hearings really is? Pass this and I’ll give you money for your state?
Posted by: kay | January 22, 2010, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Yes, all the bubbles of the last many years (don’t forget the dot-com bubble) are mostly the fault of the federal reserve but the rescue of our economy from this latest economic hole is also the result of the fed. If the fed were removed, do you really think people like Barney Frank and whatever other corrupt politians are there would do a better job??? Realize that Greenspan was loved because he catered to the rich making easy money (you remember, the people who control the media that tell you who is good and who isn’t) Bernanke is having trouble because he actually knows what he is doing and is not favoring anybody, except doing what is best for our economy.
Posted by: JA | January 22, 2010, 11:53 am 11:53 am
“Bernake is NOT a hero. Deflating the dollar has only led to other countries dumping the dollar”
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No… you’re wrong. When Bernanke doubled M1 the dollar held strong among other currencies. It was after that… when congress passed the bloated pork-ridden stimulus bill and then set its aim at undoing the American work/reward system through failed European-esque health care mandates and other expensive government empowering social programs. That is when the dollar begin to lose standing relative to other currencies. That’s when the world also began to vote no-confidence by not buying and holding our debt at our traditionally low interest rates because even communist China knows that the world economy is unsustainable without the US maintaining a free captial work/reward system.
Posted by: JimmyNashville | January 22, 2010, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Congratulations Mr. Scott Brown! Being a director of Mercy Corps, which is partner with ONE Campaign, which is advocated by Michelle Obama, Cindy McCain, Susan Buffett, and… wait for it… Michael Bloomberg, has really paid off. Let’s congratulate another puppet in office. Obviously, Martha Coakley has no affiliation with the corporate elite fascist dictatorial ruling class. Another great choice by the people of Amerika! I don’t blame you though. But I do suggest you go to Muckety.com to uncover people’s affiliations.
Posted by: andyupnorth | January 22, 2010, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
The Fed is another repressive instrument of the ruling elite used to protect its interests at the expense of the middle class.
Audit the Fed, then end it.
Posted by: Grant | January 22, 2010, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Well said Grant. Audit the fed!
Posted by: Wendy | January 22, 2010, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
The Fed is another repressive instrument of the ruling elite used to protect its interests at the expense of the middle class.
Audit the Fed, then end it.
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And then give congress control of the money supply?
Just freakin’ brilliant. I’m in awe at the level of thought given to this topic by you economic brainiacs.
Zimbabwe here we come.
Posted by: JimmyNashville | January 22, 2010, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
“The American people are disgusted with the greed and recklessness of Wall Street,” Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., said….
No, Sen. Bernie; the American prople are disgusted with the recklessness of Bernake, Summers, and Obama.
Posted by: Don | January 22, 2010, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Bernanke never sgould have been confirmed in t he first place. His Keynsian policies are a recipie for disaster. He clearly does not understand the lessons of the 1970′s. The Fed should not be focused on full employment, that is not its role. The Fed should be focused on the money supply. Yes, he held was able to hold it together, but what is he going to do in the future. He already proved that he does not know when to tighten. If he did, then would he would have done when all of the signs were saying taht the economy was overheating. Repuiblicans need to put up a superior alternative to Bernanke.
Posted by: Mitchell Nelson | January 22, 2010, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
They need to confirm him fast. His dollar policies are starting to show.
Anyone notice gas prices ticking up? Then look at supply and production and notice that there are no supply/demand parameters to justify the rise.
It is our old friend inflation rearing its head. Heavily used consumables always lead the way.
So by all means, confirm him before we see the fruits of his/Obamas labor…
Posted by: Mark | January 22, 2010, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
STOP KILLING THE DOLLAR!!! Raise rates and deal with entitlements, or we are DONE!
Posted by: qualsol | January 22, 2010, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
The financial crisis of this country (and the world) cannot be blamed on one individual. The rating agencies and government regulatory groups dropped the ball big-time regarding Wall Street and the country’s mega-banks. These institutions ruled the financial world during the past decade, with no recourse or controls implemented to protect the economy or the country’s innocent citizens who are ignorant of high-finance vehicles. Those who should be ‘punished’ are the elite executives of these companies, who single-handedly ran their firms finances into the ground at the expense of stockholders and investors.
Posted by: RohnertPark1 | January 22, 2010, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
“The Federal reserve is a Progressive institution” which is why it’s exclusively run by Republican corporate ex-CEOs who worship at the altar of Reaganist deregulation…
Posted by: Todd | January 22, 2010, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
End the fed, debt is a man made idea that we continue to perpetuate and has since existed since the Romans. Let’s end it now…regardless our lives will still go on no matter what happens. Remember we are just on a blue marble called earth floating in a galaxy called the milky way which is a part of a very vast universe. So let’s wake up people.
Posted by: Monroe | January 22, 2010, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
It’s not more liquidity we need. All the Keynesians keep repeating that mantra mindlessly. Moving dollars around is not going to create prosperity. We need the government-created inflation (printing of money) to stop. We need the spending to be cut drastically. And we need these wasteful, stupid wars over-seas to come to an end. Less spending, no inflation, fewer budensome reglations of private businesses and stronger private property rights.
Posted by: Michael in SC | January 22, 2010, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
What Jimmy Nashville said.
And any bank borrowing from the Fed should be required to increase their small business loans by the value of what they borrow, including the multiplier effect. No borrowing public money for proprietary trading or bonuses.
And if you’re one of the posters who trash the Fed and Kenseyan economics, you’ll probably have to look up “multiplier effect”.
Posted by: Math Teacher | January 22, 2010, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
Everyone here is so certain they understand economics. I’m not. Tight money in a recession? Maybe. Spend to juice the economy? Maybe. Unlike the majority of American people apparently, I am unsure of the proper remedy. In such cases, I tend to go with what the smartest guys say–those in the universities. They do not profit directly from espousing a particular economic theory–unlike pols.
Posted by: Richard Fidler | January 22, 2010, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Bernanke has proven himself to be either a fool or something more sinister. Sure he was wrong about the housing bubble, wrong about Fannie and Freddie, wrong about derivatives, wrong about the strength of the banks..etc, but what if the worlds authority on the depression wanted to trigger a new depression just so that he could show the world how to deal with it?! Just a big experiment in economics – like communism was – to hell with the human suffering – Bernanke just wanted to apply his “theories” to a real event!
Posted by: KIRK CLEMENTS | January 22, 2010, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
What Jimmy Nashville said.
And any bank borrowing from the Fed should be required to increase their small business loans by the value of what they borrow, including the multiplier effect. No borrowing public money for proprietary trading or bonuses.
And if you’re one of the posters who trash the Fed and Kenseyan economics, you’ll probably have to look up “multiplier effect”.
Posted by: Math Teacher | Jan 22, 2010 1:15:47 PM
The mulitplier effect? LOL! You mean the fractional reserve system where our money is backed by nothing? OMG! And you’re a math teacher?
Our money is as good as monopoly money!
This scam by the elitests has been done throughout history and it’s never ended well.
We could have the EXACT same monetary system but instead of having a private group of bankers collecting interest off the money we print it could be interest free if congress regulated it.
I’d rather congress do a poor job at it and the money be interest free than have a private group of thugs scamming us with interest attached. Funny how we got by for so long with our old monetray system where our money was backed by silver? HMMMMMMMMMMMMM?
I’m guessing president Wislon got paid well by selling us down the river to the private bankers.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
Math Teacher: You say “Keynesian” and “multiplier effect” as if these are good things. Accounting gimmicks and pyramiding debt and legalized counterfeiting (what do you think the act of creating new dollars is?) do not lead a country into wealth. Look around the world sometime. Practically every nation has adopted Keynesian economics as its model, and practically every nation is bankrupt or in debt up to its ears.
Look at Great Britain, home of Lord Keynes. They’ve followed his advice to a ‘T’ and they’re facing a credit downgrade. Just like us, they’ve used quantitative easing to pay for all their debt and to prop up the banking system. Why do you think what doesn’t work for them will work for us?
Furthermore, I don’t hear anyone actually calling for congress to “set monetary policy.” Take a look at the Constitution, folks. It stipulates exactly what congress is supposed to do with regard to money, and it says zip about handing over control of the supply to an unaccountable third party. How stupid are we to grant such an awesome power to people we can’t vote out of office?
The best possible thing we could do would be to repeal legal tender laws and legalize competing currencies in this country. The minute that happens, everyone would see just how weak the dollar is as a store of value. And that’s why the Keynesians keep fighting so hard for the Fed. They want everyone to keep pretending that our monopoly money is actually worth something.
Posted by: gb8898 | January 22, 2010, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
All of you acedemia advocates need to wake up! Proffesors sit around and study theory because they couldn’t hack in in the reall business world where proven methods are used.
Like I’d ever take advice from some math teacher?
I never learned anything in college from any prof that was useful in the real business world. College is a just a socialist indoctrination breeding ground!
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
There should be no vote to confirm anyone for the Fed until there is a vote on the Bill to Audit the Fed!
Posted by: Wayne | January 22, 2010, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
It’s similar to making Amanda Knox.. the U.S. Ambassador to Italy.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | January 22, 2010, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
There should be no vote to confirm anyone for the Fed until there is a vote on the Bill to Audit the Fed!
Posted by: Wayne | Jan 22, 2010 1:57:19 PM
There won’t be a fed if they’re audited and all the corruption is exposed. Why do you think they’re using all the scare tactics they can to avoid an audit? If Americans find out just how badly they’ve been swindled these people will lose their lives or have to flee the country.
Every tax payer is open to an audit but the private Federal Reserve who answers to know one as Greenspan said doesn’t get audited? Yeah, I trust that system like I would trust Madoff investing my money.
By the way Math Teacher, I am a forex trader. You talk down to people like me like you’re some elitest? You teach math! I am confident in knowing that I have a much broader grasp on how currency works than you Mr.2+2.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
If you “Audit the Fed” like so many of you want to do. You will soon find out that Ben Bernake at the Federal Reserve has been “propping” up the Stock Market for the past year. They have been purchasing stock trying to prime the market and economy to recovery. If you don’t confirm him, the whole house of cards will tumble to the ground.
Posted by: Mike Jones | January 22, 2010, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
“The American people are disgusted with the greed and recklessness of Wall Street,” Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., said….
“No, Sen. Bernie; the American prople are disgusted with the recklessness of Bernake, Summers, and Obama.”, Mitchell Nelson said….
A pox on both Wall Street and corrupt politicians I say…
Posted by: Paul Thiel | January 22, 2010, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
AUDIT THE FED NOW!
Posted by: Capt. Hooks | January 22, 2010, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
The Obama administration is “killing” us, the PEOPLE of America. They spent an entire freakin’ year on failed health care while the economy and jobs have tanked. Bernake is part of the problem. He needs to go.
The Dems, as a whole, need to go because they can not lead us in a positive direction. They’ve had their paw prints all over our finances and everything else for the last several years since they gained majorities in the Congress, and they have nothing to show expect failure for the PEOPLE of America.
Ask yourself how your 401k has been doing, your IRA, your savings, your investments, your job (if you still have one), … dismal.
How ’bout an audit of the FED? Does anyone really know what the heck the Fed is doing and can account for it? NO. The Fed determines actions in total secrecy, just like the Dems.
By the way, how’s that “hope and change” thing workin’ for everyone?
Posted by: lklimek | January 22, 2010, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
I’m not a huge Keynesian fan but I know that during an economic down-turn government deficit spending (on infrastructure) can help get us through the worst of it. Where it falls apart is in the fact that government spends less efficiently than the private sector and it never gives up any spending it begins even as recovery comes to pass. Once you’ve been generous you can never be fair. The only recourse the economy has, to get back on its feet and eliminate the deficits, is for the private sector to then out-grow the deficit.
Given the facts at the time though when it became clear that the U.S. of A. was going to elect an anti-business socialist as president with an already hard-left led congress; those people with something to lose began carefully backing out of their business investments and shifting into safer bets. They slowed down their spending on business infrastructure; they slowed down their hiring and basically went into hibernation waiting for this cold red winter to pass.
This is what triggered the DEFLATION cycle of late 2008 that was remedied by Bernanke’s quick response of doubling the money supply… deflating the dollar to match real deflation.
No one saw a deflation in goods relative to the deflation of the dollar (or other world currencies) so, as I noted, Bernanke doubled the money supply for FREE at no cost of inflation.
This FREE money was used to buy interests in the banks giving them the capital they needed to prevent a run… and thus a 1929 do-over was averted.
The guy is brilliant and likely saved the world a terrible economic melt-down.
Now… as the banks strengthen so too does our investments in them giving us an infinite return on the dollars spent that cost us nothing in inflation to generate.
It is the port laden stimulus package and the promise of euro-styled government health care, value added taxation, cap and trade and other ridiculous leftist aims that are now tanking the dollar relative to other currencies and hampering the recovery. Any reasonable B average 8th grader with 1/2 a grain of common sense should be able to work this out.
Posted by: JimmyNashville | January 22, 2010, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
urge your senators for a straight up vote to audit the FED
Posted by: wdosmer | January 22, 2010, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Let’s kick Ben (“Son of Greenspan”) to the curb. He’s proving to be just as much a disaster and ego-maniac as his mentor and predecessor, Greenspan — an old, drooling sop who still thinks he’s the center of the universe.
Posted by: larryx | January 22, 2010, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
“Multiplier effect”? There is no multiplier effect (some academic studies actually suggest a negative multiplier effect as government spending crimps private sector spending).
But if you fall for the “multiplier”, consider this. If there really is a multiplier effect, then why in the world would Obama only spend $787 Billion on “stimulus”? If spending a trillion gets back 2 trillion, then just print money like crazy!
If the multiplier exists and it is a number greater than 1.0, then let’s have a $100 Trillion Stimulus and get back a lot more. A multiplier of 2.0 means $100 Trillion stimulus is $200 Trillion. Why stop at $100 Trillion? Just run the printing press and keep spending it on stimulus. Spend a trillion trillions! Or a trillion trillion trillion! The more the government spends the more wealth.
I volunteer to personally accept the first Trillion of fresh stimulus. Obama, you can trust me to spend it well to get a nice multiplier effect.
Posted by: John Chicago | January 22, 2010, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
The only real solution to the current and future economic crises’ facing America is for America to reclaim its Manufacturing Capacity!!!
No World power has ever sustained itself once it gave up Manufacturing!!!
What next? Will the Chinese supply our Military?
The Big Corporations need to be encouraged to Manufacture in the USA!!!
Posted by: Truth Be Told | January 22, 2010, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Time to pierce the veil of secrecy the Fed is hiding behind.
The most likely reason the Fed is arrogantly refusing to tell anyone *who* got the bailout money is this:
These corrupt clowns flat-out STOLE most of it, just like we’re in some kind of banana republic, and funneled it to themselves and their offshore friends.
And if the public ever found out there would be a rebellion overnight.
Which is why the public needs to find out.
Posted by: Johnny99 | January 22, 2010, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Bernanke needs to go and the Federal Reserve needs to be audited!!Banks need to go back to mark to market accounting. No more prop. trading by banks and Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley must have their commercial bank status removed ASAP!
These simple and logical steps will begin to bring honesty and sanity back to the US banking system!!
Posted by: john rodgers | January 22, 2010, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Bankers’ and Wall Street’s greed rivals mine for potato chips and chocolate. That’s SOME horrific greed.
By the way, how do you run a country that’s 14 (fourteen) TRILLION in debt? That debt costs over a TRILLION A YEAR. And that’s interest and fees only, no principal.
It’s getting… absurd.
Posted by: Cdinsky | January 22, 2010, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
I would like someone to ask Bernanke this question, “Who did the Fed loan 2 Trillion dollars to in June of 2008?” This is a very important question because the Fed is the entity that makes short term loans to Financial Institutions, it was the 2 Trillion Dollar Loan in question that dried up the credit market for banks and other financial institutions, this then put pressure on businesses since the banks could not get credit and so they could not extend credit. This massive loan is the root of the current economic crisis and so far few have reported on it, and no politician has asked about it. Why?
Well, it is probably because the recipient of the 2 Trillion Dollar loan was the Federal Government. The only entity that the Fed would trust with 2 Trillion is the Federal Government of the U.S. This is where the money for TARP came from and the 870 Billion dollar Stimulus Plan.
So now the real question is, “Why did the Federal Government take out the loan in the first place?”
The “Economic Meltdown” that we are going through was planned and executed by the very people who are telling us that they didn’t know the economy was in trouble. Not only did they know, in advance, they made it happen.
Why would they do this? Simple, money and power. The big financial institutions rely on the free flow of money for their existance. Dry up the flow and they go into the red very quickly, then they turn to the government who just happens to have 2 Trillion extra dollars laying around. They then “loan” this money out and take controlling interest in the businesses. They bought 10 Trillion dollars worth of corporate stock for less than a Trillion dollars and now they control AIG, Citi, BoA, GM, Chrysler, etc.
Why would Congress and the White House want to control 50% of the GDP of the US? Because they need more money for more spending programs to extend their power. The taxpayer is already tapped out, and so they tapped into the strongest economic engine in the world. Unfortunately for us, when they tapped the cash cow they did some serious damage to it.
Everyone needs to call their Senators and ask them about the 2 Trillion dollar loan from the Fed. That’s your money folks, not just your tax money, but your retirement plan, and your salary as well.
Posted by: edlarson | January 22, 2010, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
No one saw a deflation in goods relative to the deflation of the dollar (or other world currencies) so, as I noted, Bernanke doubled the money supply for FREE at no cost of inflation.
This FREE money was used to buy interests in the banks giving them the capital they needed to prevent a run… and thus a 1929 do-over was averted.
The guy is brilliant and likely saved the world a terrible economic melt-down.
Now… as the banks strengthen so too does our investments in them giving us an infinite return on the dollars spent that cost us nothing in inflation to generate.
It is the port laden stimulus package and the promise of euro-styled government health care, value added taxation, cap and trade and other ridiculous leftist aims that are now tanking the dollar relative to other currencies and hampering the recovery. Any reasonable B average 8th grader with 1/2 a grain of common sense should be able to work this out.
Posted by: JimmyNashville | Jan 22, 2010 2:50:31 PM
You’re absolutely full of crap! I trade currency for a living! The dollar fell 30 cents to the Euro between Tarp 1 and 2!
Bernanke didn’t save anything! These corporations should’ve filed chapter 11! But when the plan is for the government to run them then they all of the sudden become to big to fail!
All the government did was tell people we’re to small to succeed using our tax dollars to accomplish that goal. The government lifted Glass Steagall and opened up the community reinvestment act. They forced banks to make stupid loans and enter markets theey had no business being in. Then when the banks fail just like they did back in the day they printed money with interest attached so the big banks could go gobble up their competition. Now Obalahblah wants to tax banks? All the banks will do is pass that expense on to us once again so they’ll be double dipping out of your booty.
If the economy is cyclical then why is it that every time a down cycle occurs the government feels the need to save it somehow? It’s because the Private Federal Reserve controls Washington! All they do is delay a recession which isn’t a bad thing and inflate an even larger bubble for the future. The government has done this mulitple times now and when this huge hyper bubble bursts we’re in trouble!
That’s when all the elitests who manufactured the demise of our currency will offer a new currency. And the sheep just like Nashville will be happy to except the new valueless currency backed by nothing. But the new currency will include Canada, USA and Mexico.
When you adopt a Eurpean monetary system you can pretty much see our future by what they’ve been through. What’s their currency now? Euro? Get ready to welcome in the Amero. And if don’t now our country will be dooomed. Never let a good crisis go to waste.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
If you “Audit the Fed” like so many of you want to do. You will soon find out that Ben Bernake at the Federal Reserve has been “propping” up the Stock Market for the past year. They have been purchasing stock trying to prime the market and economy to recovery. If you don’t confirm him, the whole house of cards will tumble to the ground.
Posted by: Mike Jones | Jan 22, 2010 2:19:18 PM
The house of crads is going to crash someday. Wouldn’t you want it to happen knowing why rather than not knowing and having these same crooks offer up a new currency without question?
You can’t stop a system from failing that’s destined to fail. The whole fractional reserve system is designed by nature to fail because at some point America will reach a point where we can’t pay the interest on the printing of the money. That tipping point is close and that’s why spending is being sped up rather than sloweed down. They have to crash the currency before we can have any answers.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
In reading these comments, I can see that there are some Wall Street and Fed tools here who are spreading more lies and disinformation.
We must audit the Federal Reserve. And probably abolish the Federal Reserve all together – and put monetary policy back in the hands of congress. At least there is “some” level of accountability for people in congress.
There is NO accountability for those in the Fed.
Where is our money?
Posted by: Pat | January 22, 2010, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
The FEDERAL RESERVE is a central bank, something our wise Founding Fathers warned us against.
END THE FED, and RON PAUL WAS RIGHT.
Posted by: John Q | January 22, 2010, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
The primary justification for the saving of this banks was to bail out the bond-holders of these large banks.
My children’s (and future grandchildren’s) sacrificed to make certain their investments did not fall to zero.
Thanks, guys.
Posted by: Jefffou | January 22, 2010, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
It’s time to boot the bearded federal reserve chief stooge OUT THE DOOR. Bye Bye, Bernie! You’re not welcome here anymore! It’s the first step towards ending this corrupt institution.
Posted by: Scott | January 22, 2010, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
“You’re absolutely full of crap! I trade currency for a living! The dollar fell 30 cents to the Euro between Tarp 1 and 2! ”
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Dude… look at the data. The Euro fell to around $1.30 in the fall of ’08 from a high of around $1.60 the summer before… it spiked to around $1.40 after the election and during all of the economic monetary chaos going on then; but shortly settled back to around $1.30 in January ’09.
The dollar shrinking against the euro has happened mostly in the last year; with the euro hitting around $1.50 just prior to Christmas. This is because Obama spent the last year illustrating that he really believes all that leftist crap he campainged on and he intends to act on it. Bernanke fixed it and Obama broke it again.
Posted by: JimmyNashville | January 22, 2010, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
1st: Instead of allowing our economy to correct an errant subdivision, the statist politicians Put The Whole Economy in Jeopardy by enabling it. Bernanke was part of that.
2nd: He admitted, almost like he was proud of it, that we are #2 to China now, economically. He’s also expressed doubt in the dollar as a viable currency. Good job, Ben! Great ‘accomplishments’ that you’ve presided over.
3rd: The Federal Reserve had a 50 billion dollar profit this year. (Very strange institution.) Exxon had a 40 billion dollar profit last year, and the politicians screamed about it. Now, all you hear is the sound of crickets.
Posted by: paul | January 22, 2010, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Glass-Steagall, Congress (Frank, Dodd especially) presidential myopia, and most if not all of the major wall st brokers have purely and simply got us into this mess. Get rid Glass- Steagall, FIRE all those in congress involved in anything financial -period! Furthermore withdraw any pension, benefits included, from any government official, congress included who accepts any form of remuneration from any corporation post retirement, period! And finally AUDIT the FED, reorganize the SEC and examine it, at least once a year.unannounced!
Posted by: Grgry | January 22, 2010, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Be careful what you wish for, you might get it. If not Bernanke, then who? Christopher Dodd, Barney Frank…they are both self professed experts who deny the facts that they led us down this road to financial distress by their demands that more lending be made to unqualified people. When they repealed Glass -Steagal under Bill Clinton, they led federally guaranteed banks start playing the stock market and they got insurance against losses from the US government and now here we are.
Posted by: jim 234 | January 22, 2010, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
This is not about Massachusetts vote or about taxpayers “footing the bill” for Wall Street recklessness (fraud). This is about a deepening economic problem in the US and possible global consequence. Congress and the President are never upfront – the public finds out much later about what is really going on. The US economy is very fragile. People are concerned about their homes and their jobs. Congress gave away American jobs to appease corporate (manufacturing) CEOs, and then Congress gave away homes to appease financial institutions. Media must stop blaming the American public. People were defrauded into believing homes were worth much more due to Wall Street greed and that there would be jobs to replace manufacturing. None of this really happened. Congress and Wall Street extorted everything they could from the American people. The people lost everything – but CEOs gained everything. Now, the administration, and Congress, must face the political consequence. The US financial service reputation has been destroyed – what do we have left?? This is far more frightening and serious than the media/Congress/Administration has led us to believe. Value of the dollar, and America’s future,is at stake. The Federal Reserve and US Treasury also know far more than they are revealing.
Posted by: katel | January 22, 2010, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Get rid of all back room crap unless it involved national defense. NO FED!! No government entity that does its own thing in the dark.
Posted by: DaveFresno | January 22, 2010, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
i think it is time for him to go.
Posted by: fred norris | January 22, 2010, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Bernanke has successfully stopped a disastrous deflation. I think these jerks better keep him on.
Posted by: Ron | January 22, 2010, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Someone on here posted that it’s crazy to hand control over to an unaccountable third party, like the Fed. Are you actually saying you would feel better if Congress controlled the money supply? People that only care about pandering to their constituents back home and have a short term time horizon, and usually know NOTHING about economics would be better stewards for our money? Read some economic history. Before 1913 and the creation of the Fed, the US was lurching from one panic crisis to another, and they were deep recessions. Since the Fed, we have had two serious downturns in almost 100 years….a significantly better track record than pre-Fed. Of course the Fed ain’t perfect, but sure is better than letting the short sighted, dim witted bozo’s that makes up most of Congress run it.
Posted by: KT | January 22, 2010, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
When in a hole, you don’t get out by digging yourself deeper…….unless China is your destination.
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money” – Margaret Thatcher
Posted by: GDOG0717 | January 22, 2010, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Bernanke and Geithner are the 2 biggest crooks ever.
they should both be impeached, tried for treason and hung in a public venue.
END THE FED
Return to the GOld standard
Posted by: wheninthecourse | January 22, 2010, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
The whole government versus the Fed arguement is a waste of time and energy. You have to get at the root of a problem, not the symptons. Wet streets do not cause rain.
The people need a free market in currency rather than a government created fiat currency. Who runs the Fed is not important. Its existence is the problem.
The special interest international bankers supported the election of Wilson. He supproted the creation of the income tax and the federal reserve.
The strongest economic decade in this country in the twentieth century. There was 7% compounded growth, 25 unemployment and 1% inflation per annum.
The U.S. had vrtually no immigration laws. Since 1913 the U.S. has had a
great depression and several recessions.
WWe have been involved in two world which we could have been avoided. We have adopted an iterventionist foreign ppolicy. How have the citizens benefited by increased taxes and regulations?
It seems that the primary benefit is only to the elitist snobs that are trying to run this country. They know what is best—-sure they do.
We need real change and we need it now.
Lower taxes and less government spending. Get rid of the elitist and their divide and conquer policies. That is the recipe for peace and prosperity.
Posted by: Gary Marcus | January 22, 2010, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Our founding fathers would have put tax cheat Tim Geithner, his current boss, and Ben Bernanke in front of a firing squad for treason.
The President’s arrogant, snickering “town hall meeting” today was about the sleaziest piece of political pandering I have witnessed in my life. May God forgive him for what he is doing to our great country, and may God bless America. We will sure be needing it.
Posted by: IndependentVoter | January 22, 2010, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Someone on here posted that it’s crazy to hand control over to an unaccountable third party, like the Fed. Are you actually saying you would feel better if Congress controlled the money supply? People that only care about pandering to their constituents back home and have a short term time horizon, and usually know NOTHING about economics would be better stewards for our money? Read some economic history. Before 1913 and the creation of the Fed, the US was lurching from one panic crisis to another, and they were deep recessions. Since the Fed, we have had two serious downturns in almost 100 years….a significantly better track record than pre-Fed. Of course the Fed ain’t perfect, but sure is better than letting the short sighted, dim witted bozo’s that makes up most of Congress run it.
Posted by: KT | Jan 22, 2010 9:26:23 PM
You act like Congress would be in total control of our money supply? They would have oversight but you’d have a branch of government in charge of the money supply. You’d recruit bankers who know what they’re doing to run it.
I’d rather have a branch of government running our money supply where we could have some transparency and print our money interest free than have a private group of banksters printing our money with interest and we have no transparency.
That’s a no brainer!
Before you could do that though the corrupt incumbants would have to be purged and term limits be set. You’d also have to have campaign finance reform put in place so corporations couldn’t put their guy in charge of anything. This special interest BS is just that.
As if these politicians won’t scratch backs when they’ve been given millions from huge corporations.
Posted by: Bothpartiessuck | January 22, 2010, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
put in a candidate that will restrict current banking practices. Force them to charge the same rates they pay to the average account holder. It is not right to only pay a portion of one percent to account holders and charge over twenty percent for credit card account holders. it should be a double edge sword. they are making fortunes off of the fees they charge for our money, yet do not want to give us a fair portion. Remember the rates they charge use to b e considered loan sharking. People went to jail for that. they should be held to the same standards they hold us to. Why charge an application fee and loan fee for loans they are collecting interest on.
Posted by: patman | January 22, 2010, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
This just proves the constituent supporters of Obama and the no nothing idiots like my Senator Boxer who are running from this nomination because she feels that in a (D) state she does not want to cast an affirmative for an arguably wonderful Fed Head who saved our collective butts from total melt down; so if the markets (global)find on the 31st he’s not in his spot as the Fed Head all the collective IRA wealth in the country (((((poof)))))….well Mr. President you better get your troops in line.
Posted by: whitneymuse | January 23, 2010, 12:10 am 12:10 am
I think it is Congress’s fault and they are responsible for financial mess of this year. You should not take it out on Bernanke, if you can take it out take it on Mass. congressman Barney Frank. We have to have these members under oath and they should answer the questions.
Posted by: P.Barman | January 23, 2010, 4:50 am 4:50 am
It is time for Bernanke to go and don’t feel sorry for him because Goldman Sachs et al owes him a great deal.
The list of Bernanke’s failings would fill more space than I am allowed for this post. Folks can contact their senators and demand they vote against Bernanke. That is freedom and senators are supposed to represent their voters and not be mini-dictators doing what they want.
Hopefully Obama will remove Geithner, take some sound advice from Volker, and salvage the next three years,learning from his mistakes.
Posted by: Boat52 | January 23, 2010, 8:17 am 8:17 am
Who do the American people think they are by questioning Jewish money lenders as to who serves as chairman of their biggest bank? If Bernanke is voted out, as chairman of the Fed, they will simply appoint another Jew in his place.
Posted by: plumbbob | January 23, 2010, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Well put and just another reason to contact your senator and tell them that it is time for a CHANGE>
1st: Instead of allowing our economy to correct an errant subdivision, the statist politicians Put The Whole Economy in Jeopardy by enabling it. Bernanke was part of that.
2nd: He admitted, almost like he was proud of it, that we are #2 to China now, economically. He’s also expressed doubt in the dollar as a viable currency. Good job, Ben! Great ‘accomplishments’ that you’ve presided over.
3rd: The Federal Reserve had a 50 billion dollar profit this year. (Very strange institution.) Exxon had a 40 billion dollar profit last year, and the politicians screamed about it. Now, all you hear is the sound of crickets.
Posted by: N.S. In Georgia | January 23, 2010, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
How is the defeat of Bernanke a bad thing? Isn’t that what should happen to people who do a crappy job?
Posted by: NatetheGrate | January 23, 2010, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Its absurd to totally blame bernanke for this mess. There is more than enough to go around including congress. Congress has oversight responsibility for the financial systems where were all these “outraged” politicinas when it was going on? To use voter discontent as an excuse is pathetic. we do not vote for the fed chief congress wants a scapegoat to salvage their declining stature and bernanke is the chosen sacrafice
Posted by: bucki | January 23, 2010, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
He supports the policies that got us into this mess… bye, bye BS Bernanke.
He is more apt in helping our great country thru the world of acedemia or consulting BUT NOT AS THE HEAD OF THE FED.
Posted by: Qwerty | January 23, 2010, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Bernanke has been instrumental in reducing my income by 25% with his artificially low interest rates, but I shudder to think what monetary policy would be if Congress had control of it.
Posted by: Fedphucksfrugal | January 25, 2010, 1:20 am 1:20 am
A 5000 sq mile rock was approaching earth for our total destruction but a friendly UFO proactively eliminated it when this meteor was one billion miles away.
Give thanks to Bernanke for saving us from Depression.
Posted by: AKK | January 25, 2010, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
He admitted, almost like he was proud of it, that we are #2 to China now, economically. He’s also expressed doubt in the dollar as a viable currency. Good job, Ben! Great ‘accomplishments’ that you’ve presided over.
Posted by: Bob | January 25, 2010, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
The Federal Reserve – along with other government agencies, were mainly responsible for the recent (and ongoing) US and worldwide economic depression. If you need confirmation, read books such as Crashproof 2.0 and Meltdown by Thomas E. Woods, and listen to venerable congressman such as Ron Paul speak about these stuff.(Don’t just google it!) I’m not particularly promoting any books or persons, but it will do you good. Anyway, my point is that even if the U.S. got lucky enough to get rid of Ben Bernanke, another pawn will step right in, and won’t change anything. So, the U.S. should get rid of the Fed all together, and let the free market be “real” free market w/o the constant perversion and meddling by internaitional banking cartels who contrl the Federal Reserve.
Posted by: Sean Kin | January 25, 2010, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm