The Abdulmutallab Indictment

Obama is running scared at the moment, and that’s probably a good thing for us
The accused unwittingly performed a service in waking up the Obama administration. Much as only Nixon could get away with recognizing Red China in his day, only Obama could get away with instituting profiling against citizens of Muslim countries.

“He should be in Guantanamo.”
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Didn’t you hear? There was a transparent campaign promise to close it?
Besides, until the latest “pivot” that’s the spot to get yourself shipped back to Yemen for more education.

He has been charge – just like the shoe bomber under the Bush administration – and he will be found guilty and punished – just like the shoe bomber under the Bush administration.

Obama is running scared at the moment, and that’s probably a good thing for us
The accused unwittingly performed a service in waking up the Obama administration.
Bob | Jan 6, 2010 3:27:17 PM
If the accused ‘woke up the Obama administration,’ how is it that a week BEFORE the underwear bomber Obamaauthorized cruise missile strikes on Al Qaeda in Yemen facilities? Obama seemed plenty awake then, and pretty well aimed before this terrorist set foot in an airport. Perhaps the smoking holes in the ground distracted the bomb maker as he made the final checks? I guess you didn’t notice.

This is bad news. He should be held as an enemy combatent. At least for a while.
Paul | Jan 6, 2010 3:41:18 PM
He was arrested in the US and he’s an idiot stooge, like most of the young men recruited by Al Qaeda. I trust the judicial system laid out by the Founding Fathers to deal with just such vicious murderers to do its job, just as did under Bush (he had a habit of appointing judges from third-tier religious colleges, but even they are competent for such a simple case).

He was arrested in the US and he’s an idiot stooge, like most of the young men recruited by Al Qaeda. I trust the judicial system laid out by the Founding Fathers to deal with just such vicious murderers to do its job, just as did under Bush (he had a habit of appointing judges from third-tier religious colleges, but even they are competent for such a simple case).
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What does whether or not they’re “idiot stooges” have to do with it? In passing, most of them are well educated idiots. Of course, that applies to some in Washington DC as well.
This particular stooge was talking until his court-appointed lawyer stepped in. Now there’s rumor of a plea-bargain, and administration flacks can’t even explain why some “suspects” get civilian trials while others get military trials. This alleged suspect allegedly committed his alleged crime before he’d entered the U.S. Is the “line” halfway across the ocean?
It’s all politics and “optics.” Change some can believe in…

B. Bear and others–
It is our great love for and belief in the Constitution that motivates us to want the courts, acting within the bounds of the Constitution, to try CIVIL cases and other cases, such as TERRORIST ones, to be tried in military courts. See, the idea is: try civilian cases in civilian court when there are civilian crimes and try terrorism cases in military courts because we are at war, you see.
I love the law and the Constitution so much I don’t want enemy combatants to clog our case dockets and waste our time.
Is it so hard to understand that there is a difference between protocol in civilian and military matters? Apparently, yes.
Meanwhile, back in Yemen, Abdul….’s friends laugh. At Obama and the stupid west that would Mirandize a terrorist.

He has been charged – just like the shoe bomber under the Bush administration – and he will be found guilty and punished – just like the shoe bomber under the Bush administration.
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He’s in the court system now – innocent until proven guilty. You can’t make such pronouncements.
Posted by: Paul | Jan 6, 2010 3:59:22 PM
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Sure can . .. just did. I predict he will be found guilty and punished. Too many witnesses, too much evidence . .. he’s a done duck.

Under Bush’s administration Richard Reid (aka Shoe Bomber) serving a life sentence in a prison in Colorad:
“on January 16, 2002, Reid was charged with eight criminal counts related to his acts of terrorism, namely: attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction, placing an explosive device on an aircraft, attempted murder, interference with flight crew members and attendants, attempted destruction of an aircraft, using a destructive device during and in relation to a crime of violence and attempted wrecking of a mass transportation vehicle.[2]”
Get your facts straight…

He should be in Guantanamo
Why? It should be closed by now.

“Perhaps the smoking holes in the ground distracted the bomb maker as he made the final checks? I guess you didn’t notice.”
Doesn’t distract them in Yemen much…Or Afghanistan/Pakistan for that matter.

Look at the date the shoe bomber appeared in court and get back to me.
Bob | Jan 6, 2010 4:29:23 PM
So now it’s a good thing that Bush waited until after his vacation to deal with it? Interesting.

I am glad for you to admit that Obama will do the same as the Bush administration did.
CW | Jan 6, 2010 4:26:05 PM
If that is true, then why do Republicans have such a hatred of him? He will do the same as Bush, right?
Posted by: jhw539 | Jan 6, 2010 4:43:11 PM
And I can’t figure out the liberals hatred of Bush if Obama is doing the same thing he already did. You’d think he’d know better, huh? Guess Obama really IS just another politician. What a let down that must be for the “followers”.

===If that is true, then why do Republicans have such a hatred of him? ===
Mostly because of his domestic policies.

Tierra said Obama was the same as Bush.

And I can’t figure out the liberals hatred of Bush if Obama is doing the same thing he already did. You’d think he’d know better, huh?
Shoe | Jan 6, 2010 4:47:23 PM
Here’s a clue, liberals live in reality and see clearly Obama is NOT doing the same things as Bush in the key areas of their greatest concerns.

Bush vs. Obama; blah, blah, blah….

The one you quoted doesn’t have the slightest suggestion that Obama does not know what Bush did in the past, but rather that Obama’s selection of an action is based on his prediction of its effectiveness NOT whether Bush ever did anything similar.
Posted by: jhw539 |
Your inability to grasp the point does not make it any less valid.

Back in Yemen, they are looking for a place to hide since Obama authorized cruise missile attacks on their bases (the first US strikes in Yemen) a week BEFORE the underwear bombing attempt.
Posted by: jhw539 | Jan 6, 2010 4:24:53 PM
I wonder if these missile strikes will have more or less an effect on terrorist recruitment than the existence of Gitmo.
I wonder if these missile strikes in foreign country with which we are not at war could be considered a war crime.

Your inability to grasp the point does not make it any less valid.
Foghorn Leghorn | Jan 6, 2010 5:42:25 PM
In much the same way that bread is selling for 1 yuan in China today.

When is a missile strike a war crime? If they are against a state which we are not at war with, that is the crime of aggression (the worst war crime, as it precipitates all others). The strikes can be war crimes even if we are at war with the country attacked, however, if the attacks are indiscriminate. A number of civilian casualties would be prima facie evidence that an attack was indiscriminate. Indiscriminate attacks of course are also likely to be terroristic, since only a terrorist group would launch such an attack.

according to Republican Peter King, we only need to have the President constantly repeat the word terrorism to insure the safety of America, imagine that, just saying the word will keep us safe..
you have to wonder why someone like King when given the opportunity on a national ABC broadcast to voice the republican view on defense, homeland security and other national issues, can only come up with the suggestion that Obama say the word terrorism more, ..
this follows the republican meme that Obama doesn’t use the word, which is a lie, and easily proven so by anyone inclined to actually look and check.
this brings up a real concern, since this meme is so easily proven as a lie, why do republicans like King, who are involved in defense and security issues continually lie.. even former VP Cheney has been called out on this lie, but still they do it.. but they offer no valid policy.
it’s beginning to look like republicans have a pathological obsession with repeating a known lie, .. no one should be surprised

This idiot from the Detroit flight…. is a complete loser. I hope the country spends very little time talking about the fool. Relegate him to a cell somewhere and let him rot.
I will admit that I am impressed that these idiots are reduced to stuffing explosives in their underwear to attack us. There’s no way on earth to stop all the suicide missions these fools can launch but their panties full of explosives is really about as stupid and barely effective as it can get.
Obama, keep them in their trenches with cruise missles and predators. Keep our troops off shore where they can sleep relatively safe in their bunks. Knock em off one by one and two by two. We can keep that up for the next 100 years.
Maybe their next bright idea will be replacing their fillings in their teeth with explosives. What a bunch of losers.

“”"”"”It seems to me that Mr Obama is doing much more than the Bush administration..pakistan and yemen are fighting on our side and eliminating the enemy”"”"”
Posted by: jojo
And what, with Bush they were attacking us? Right now, Yemen doesan’t want our help and we are upsetting Pakistan because they want to handle it within their own borders. So yes, Obama is upsetting them more.

The CIA was humiliated by the liar Pelosi
Posted by: lfrichar
I guess it’s time for you and the republicans to offer to hold the hands of CIA and protect them, so they will not be afraid by that terrible Nancy Pelosi, if the CIA really is ‘ humiliated’ as you imply, they are worthless to national security
re: So yes, Obama is upsetting them more.
now the fringe is worried about upsetting the rest of the world? you’re 8 years late.