The State of Our Union Is Long

Looks like our president threw a childish temper tantrum last night. Perhaps he needs a time out corner. Giving his opponents the ole skunk-eye will surely win bipartisanship. He just wants everything his way or else. The president needs to get over himself.

His speech was sadly big on campaign rah-rah and short on substance. Tax credits aren’t the same as tax cuts; they simply allow the government to keep people’s money on loan.
His blunt defiance against the Supreme Court ruling on McCain-Feingold, while members of the court were sitting right in front of him, was a wicked embarrassment and shows his contempt for the laws of this land. That so many cheered will come back to haunt them.
While I don’t envy him having to give this speech during these times, I don’t pity him either. He was part of the Congress he continues to blame (well, he was supposed to be part of it instead of out campaigning for 2 years of his sole Senate term) and his policies have only made things worse.
It’s going to be an ugly year, I fear. But the ugliness is of his own making so welcome to the real world, Barry.

HE OBVIOUSLY LIVES ON A DIFFERENT PLANET THAN THE REST OF US.
WAIT UNTIL YOU DO YOUR TAXES, HIS LITTLE “STIMULAS” FROM LAST YEAR HAS REALLY SCREWED OVER THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, GET YOUR CHECK BOOKS READY!!!!!!!!!

Another campaign speech.
I wish we could do the 2008 election over again.

I think I saw Obama’s pants catch on fire.
He told some whoppers.
Why not lie? Most Americans don’t bother to inform themselves, and the MSM will not call out the lies.
He’s a disgrace.

“whats been distributed so far was tax cuts.”
Handing out money to those who paid no taxes is not a tax cut. It is welfare.
The stimulus was promised to have an immediate effect on jobs.
Ok, that was true. 3.6 million jobs were lost.

Posted by: david | Jan 28, 2010 9:03:06 AM
Absolutely right. This is why I have been for along time saying pay no attention to what Obama says. He will do the opposite of what he says every time.
He says he wants to change the tone of politics in Washington while bashing Bush at every opportunity.
He wants to “reach across the aisle” but has refused every single Republican health care proposal.
Pay no attention to what he says and you won’t ever go wrong.

A reminder:
Bloomberg, Oct, 2007
Oct. 3 (Bloomberg) — “Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the largest U.S. mortgage-finance companies, would be allowed to expand their $1.5 trillion mortgage portfolio to buy subprime loans under a Democratic plan to help struggling borrowers.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other leading Democrats also called on President George W. Bush to increase funding for foreclosure prevention and appoint a coordinator to oversee the administration’s response to the mortgage-market turmoil in the plan they unveiled today in Washington.”
As recently as 2007, Democrats were expanding bad loans and making Fannie buy the bad loans.
Bush is not without blame. He should have said no but let’s be clear about who is behind the problem.

The AP responds to Obama, “You Lie!”
–Spending freeze – The AP points out that it will save less than 1% of predicted deficits over the next ten years — and that Obama scoffed at such a plan when John McCain proposed it in 2008.
–Health care – Obama said the Democratic plan would allow people to keep their insurance and their doctors, but the bill doesn’t guarantee either. Their plan has massive cuts to Medicare Advantage, which would definitely affect coverage of a large portion of America’s seniors and disabled.
–Lobbyists – Obama has not “excluded” lobbyists from his administration; HE’S HIRED OVER A DOZEN for key posts, and the AP notes seven of those WAIVERS were for White House posts. Obama called for restrictions on lobbyist contributions, but those already exist.
–Two million jobs saved through Porkulus (LOL) – The CBO puts the theoretical range between 600K and 1.6 million, but also cautions that the methodology of estimating jobs “saved or created” is “UNCERTAIN.” The last detailed numbers the White House produced totaled 650,000 — and were found to be highly inaccurate.
–Openness: “Obama skipped past a broken promise from his campaign — to have the negotiations for health care legislation broadcast on C-SPAN “so that people can see who is making arguments on behalf of their constituents, and who are making arguments on behalf of the drug companies or the insurance companies.” Instead, Democrats in the White House and Congress have conducted the usual private negotiations, making multibillion-dollar deals with hospitals, pharmaceutical companies and other stakeholders BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. Nor has Obama lived up consistently to his pledge to ensure that legislation is posted online for five days before it’s acted upon.”

Job creation and health care are closely related. With health care cost in the US too high jobs have moved to other countries, e.g., Canada, Mexico and China. Universal care won’t necessarily bring more jobs but health cost control will do the trick better. Obama is surrounded by economists who don’t understand trade, health care, etc.

I can see why Obama gets so little respect. To attack the Supreme Court at a SOTU while they are sitting right there in front of him is so classless and unpresidential.
The “yes men” that advise him are just as clueless.

He told some whoppers.
Why not lie?
ollie | Jan 28, 2010 8:52:24 AM
To speak in a term you might understand, You lie. Cite two of the “whoppers”.

More snakeoil from the manchild..he cannot hide the corruption

AP FACT CHECK: Obama and a toothless commission…

MSNBC’s Matthews: ‘I Forgot He Was Black Tonight’…
—————————————- so the left wing tinkle legger has always thought he was just a Black man? That MSNBC racist!!!!!

From a lefty blogger:
“He has rebuilt the party’s spirit in one speech”.
That’s all it takes.
Obama reading another pretty speech.
Promises the world and delivers squat.
Same old same old….

Barack “you got me, babe” Obama also used the word “I” 96 times, and the words “me” or “my,” 18 times.
But it’s not all about him.

I guess for the uninitiated the speech should have had subtitles.
We need less bipartisanship=You must do it my way.
We need to double exports in the next 5 years=I am going to wave my magic wand.
We inherited a “crisis” and avoided disaster=Since deficit spending is a bad thing, we did more of it (kind of like throwing gasoline on the fire).
I wish I had said it first, but I heard someone say to the effect that “this spending freeze is kind of like promising to go on a diet after winning a pie eating contest”.
We the People are in a world or hurt, we lack leadership with common sense.

“To attack the Supreme Court at a SOTU while they are sitting right there in front of him is so classless and unpresidential. The “yes men” that advise him are just as clueless.”
Hey, it works in Chicago!

Pat Buchanan’s analysis sums up the mood of much of America:
“Obama came into the game two touchdowns behind. We don’t blame him for that. But he was brought into the game to win and after one year we are now four touchdowns behind.”

Cite two of the “whoppers”.
“reach across the aisle”
“change the tone of politics in Washington”
Concern about earmarks
Fiscal responsiblity
Supported protesters in Iran
drjohn | Jan 28, 2010 9:59:24 AM
Seriously? In your critical assessment, those count as lies? No point in debate then, you just want to swap bumperstickers.

LMAO at thids clown of a president..Talk about out of touch
a recent Gallup poll showe an overall approval of the supreme court ruling by 57-37%
Dems favored it by 62%
Republicians favored it by 64%
independents were split 48-47%
Again this guy is totaly out of touch with America and americans are not going to accept his trampling on the 1st amendment… let the investigations begin in 2011… especially on this anti justice department and turn over Rangel to the FBI

Why did the President give such a long speech last night? Maybe he figures he owes Americans more of his time since their paying so much for it.
Posted by: All Spun Out
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It was actually a deliberate attempt by Obama and the media to delay anyone from watching the Republician response..which made Obama look extremely inexperienced, thats why yo9u are not hearing anything on the news regarding the very well delivered response

LMAO at thids clown of a president..Talk about out of touch
a recent Gallup poll showe an overall approval of the supreme court ruling by 57-37%
another crisis, another photo-op | Jan 28, 2010 10:18:40 AM
Gallup published the results of the poll Jan 22 2010. I invite everyone to google it up. The ACTUAL poll does not ask about the Supreme Court ruling, and Gallup sums up the conclusions as:
“Thus, it would appear that, regardless of Americans’ support for the principle that campaign donations are a form of political speech, and that corporations and unions should get the same treatment as individuals, they are likely to have significant concerns about the practical effect of the court’s ruling, that is, more corporate and union money being poured into elections.”
Again that is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what the original poster claimed. This is classic Big Lie stuff folks – always check the original source.

You sign a bill with 8500 earmarks and then you whine about earmarks?
Give me a break.
drjohn | Jan 28, 2010 10:22:51 AM
“I’m also calling on Congress to continue down the path of earmark reform, Democrats and Republicans.
…
Tonight, I’m calling on Congress to publish all earmark requests on a single Web site before there’s a vote so that the American people can see how their money is being spent.”
Wow. Some whining.

There should be a law requiring a fact-check caption at the bottom of the screen when pols give national speeches.
Can you imagine where Obama would be in the polls if every voter knew the truth?
When he says the gov’t should be open and transparent–the caption says “obama promised 8X’s that HC would be on C-SPAN”
When he says he will veto earmarks–”Obama signed off on 9,000 earmarks”
Lobbyist? “Obama has at least 12 working for him”.
People would get the truth instantly
and Obama would be exposed as the con man he really is.

OBAMA: “Let me repeat: we cut taxes. We cut taxes for 95% of working families. We cut taxes for small businesses. We cut taxes for first-time homebuyers. We cut taxes for parents trying to care for their children. We cut taxes for 8 million Americans paying for college. As a result, millions of Americans had more to spend on gas, and food, and other necessities, all of which helped businesses keep more workers. And we haven’t raised income taxes by a single dime on a single person. Not a single dime.”
Except for cutting the Capital Gains tax for individuals who invest in small businesses, I see ONLY TAX CREDITS and WITHHOLDING ABOUT $13 LESS per week on individuals’ paychecks from the stimulus bill. The latter is NOT a tax cut because the federal income tax rate has yet to be changed. Since you had less withheld, that means you will either pay it back OR will receive less of a refund when you file your federal income tax return this year.
THAT is why the Republicans did not clap, and certainly did not join the standing ovation.
If anyone knows another ACTUAL TAX CUT in the stimulus bill please point it out!

January 22, 2010
Public Agrees With Court: Campaign Money Is “Free Speech”But have mixed views on other issues at heart of new Supreme Court rulingby Lydia SaadPRINCETON, NJ — Americans’ broad views about corporate spending in elections generally accord with the Supreme Court’s decision Thursday that abolished some decades-old restrictions on corporate political activity. Fifty-seven percent of Americans consider campaign donations to be a protected form of free speech, and 55% say corporate and union donations should be treated the same way under the law as donations from individuals are.

Obama: LIAR

Obama, the Prince of darkness!

Which in context… Hangon, that OBAMA NEVER SAID THAT IN THE STATE OF THE UNION. Are you serious? You MADE UP something that Obama didn’t even say in the speech so you could claim it was one of his “lies” in his speech?
Posted by: jhw539 | Jan 28, 2010 10:37:34 AM
The spin meisters are out in full force making stuff up because the speech was great and well received.
What’s ironic is that same commenter is talking about others’ denial without any self-check lightbulbs catching his’/her attention.

The media wanted a “novelty” president. Now, we’re stuck. I can’t imagine 3 more years of this skinny bag-of-wind.

3 more years of this crap? Really????
Tell me it ain’t so….pleeeease….let it be a dream…..I’ll wake up and it will all be over….won’t it?????

Who said it?
“Tonight’s State of the Union was full of the same empty rhetoric the American people have come to expect from this President…”

Obama is a mile wide and an inch deep.

“So let’s show the American people that we can do it together.”
Read it and weep.

Simpy amazing to me that there are that many people who don’t know the difference between a tax cut and a tax credit.

No, really, what I got out of his SOTU speech is that we MUST spend our grand children into Chinese communist slavery and that we must all become welfare serfs because that is what is best for the US. And those of you who don’t agree are idiots and BTW don’t forget to vote Democrat come November, P L E A S E!

>Scott Brown got elected because Americans are angry that they didn’t get health care reform.<
That's not why I voted for him.

“The defining principle of the Obama Administration, the response to every problem, every setback or chllenge is–more Obama”. NYPost
And today Obama is back on the campaign trail to Florida.
What did he say last night about politicians being in a perpetual campaign mode? He thinks we’re stupid.
And 46% of voters are…

Has there ever been a more incompetent politician in USA history? This guy is a sorry excuse for a president of the greatest country in the history of man on earth. He absolutely makes me sick to my stomach everytime I see him or worse yet when I hear him say anything. It is ALWAYS about him the little nariccistic punk.

Obama is a pathetic egocentric buffoon who cannot bring himself to admit or believe that Americans just do not buy his ultra liberal agenda.. Even if you can look past the horrific health care swill his administration has tried to jam down our throats, you cannot ignore his inescapeably cluelss attitude towards terrorists. Hey Barry, how’s that “We will extend our hand if you unclench your fist” philosophy working out?

The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.

This is great! I expected an ABC article with it’s follow-up comments to be written by typical Obama supporters praising their worshipful master. If these were his supporters, he’s screwed. If these are those who voted against him it tells a lot that they haven’t showed up. Get a clue Obama! WE REJECT YOUR FASCIST/SOCIALIST/MARXIST/COMMUNIST/PROGRESSIVE AGENDA, period.

Correction:
If these are those who voted against him it tells a lot that ‘they’ (his supporters)haven’t showed up.

you cannot ignore his inescapeably cluelss attitude towards terrorists.
center in nj | Jan 28, 2010 11:22:17 AM
Which don’t you approve of: Shooting them in the head (Somali pirates), blowing them up with Hellfires from drones, or tripling the number of troops to shoot them in person (Afghanistan)?

Don’t ever forget that this is the man who said he wanted to fundamentally change the United States…..

Free college if you become a slave worker for the Fed. Well hell how much education do you really need for that anyway? I mean look, we got PRESIDENT OBAMA.
Harpotoo | Jan 28, 2010 11:18:49 AM
That doesn’t even make sense. Obama worked his way into Columbia and carried on for postgraduate work, eventually graduating magna cum laude from Harvard and teaching constitutional law for many years in IL. He’s often “insulted” for being an educated elite.
I guess for the two minute hate reality doesn’t matter much.

Wow. Obama is an egomaniac. Also, he is gonna to get rid of lobbyists? I guess he’ll start with all of the ones in his Administration, first?

I’m surprised by the vitriol in these comments. Not that I disagree, but I wonder where are all the Obama sycophants that got the jerk elected?

Obama is either lecturing us like an elitist Harvard professor or scolding us like a parent.
Hillary was right.
She and McCain have a lifetime of experience. And all Obama has is a speech he made in 2004.
That’s all he has–good reading skills.
What a huge hoax Obama has played on America.

Dave, try intellectual honesty. It’s more refreshing.
Daniel Mitchell of CATO: I’m a big fan of criticizing Obama’s profligacy, but it is inaccurate and/or dishonest to blame him for Bush’s mistakes.
Also, read Bruce Bartlett’s take on the Bush admin, or Oxley’s quote pertaining to the admin’s one-finger salute to legislation that would have helped before we were on the edge of the abyss.
Or catch a clue and rightly admit that it was the rich, the poor, admins of both parties, Congress, led mostly by Republicans for the greater amount of time, but briefly by Dems, wall street,main street, mortgage lenders and house buyers who all share democratically in the blame.
Regardless, Obama hit it right last night, and Rove is a cyncial partisan full of shrewd baloney for political purposes.

Daniel Mitchell of CATO: I’m a big fan of criticizing Obama’s profligacy, but it is inaccurate and/or dishonest to blame him for Bush’s mistakes.
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Or the other way around…

Or the other way around…
Posted by: Reverse | Jan 28, 2010 11:45:35 AM
Since this started with an Andrew Sullivan quote, I’ll quote him again in response to Clive Cook asking ” What does it matter who caused the problem?”
Sully blogs: “Let me try to explain: it matters who caused the problem and why because if we do not understand the causes we cannot fix the problem and it matters because any adult judgment of a politician’s first year that does not take into account the inheritance he was bequeathed is impossible.
It matters because the most important fact in American politics is the worst presidency in modern times that preceded Obama. “

I didn’t sense any remorse on his part for the out of control spending–which he singed into law. Nor did I hear him pledge to quit scaring the bejesus out of business and small investors.
Just more of the same old same old.
Except for his churlish rebuke of the Supreme court ruling on corporate free speech rights, I thought Obama’s speech was a real snoozer.
It takes breathtaking hypocrisy to bemoan corporate campaign contributions. Obama brazenly broke his solemn promise to accept public financing and rode to victory on 650 million dollars of private money. Has he no shame?

so what makes anyone believe that he will now start telling the truth and actually do anything to help this country? he hates this country, he is muslim, he wants islam to rule here and he will do everything within his means and power now to destroy this nation – socially, economically, spiritually, and all things having to do with the constitution. he doesn’t care about any of us, just himself and his perverted ideals – whatever they may truly be. he is a fraud, a liar, and a disgrace.

Would have been an excellent time for Obama to announce his registation

How do you even know the man went to Columbia University?
B-RAD | Jan 28, 2010 11:45:01 AM
Don’t be an idiot. Are you SERIOUSLY claiming that Obama does not have a degree from Columbia? How we know is by pictures, accounts from professors (such as Michael Baron), extensive opposition research that called and verified attendance, and a succession of educational and private entities that verified the resume of a nobody Barrack Obama.
How can anyone take Republicans seriously when they are so far out of touch with basic reality?

After one year of “governing” and a lame State of the Union speech, The USS 0bama is shown to be nothing but a FAILboat. Its full of self-inflicted holes and taking on water faster every day. Just pay attention to what he does, not what he says.

Longest ,most boring speech, but Nancy licking her lips and teeth was something, you just can make it up and Joe Biden trying to look like he was a Clinton mimic was unforgettable also,Obama was as usual saying words and Michelle was reacting,what a whitehouse full of surprises,like the Clamppets going for it.

I was disappointed because he didn’t say the words I was hoping to hear:
“I resign effective immediately.
I have fired my entire staff.
I have appointed Chuck Norris as my replacement.”

Thank you, liberals, for the laughs.
Please keep blaming Bush for all our woes.
Please keep reiterating your ignorance on economics and taxes.
Please keep touting scams like Obama-care.
All of this is doing wonders at the ballot box.

I don’t see many minds changed. Look at the foreclosure numbers and the jobless rate, if something substantial doesn’t get accomplished soon, this year will be gone and there will be no democratic majorities for a decade, in fact, I think it’s over already. Do the math, how many jobs have to be created by November to reduce the unemployment rate to 9%? Where are those jobs supposed to come from? PS, How is the deficit reduced if job creation is only on the gov. side?

“Will you act surprised or have the decency to be ashamed if one of these nuts picks up a gun (again, like murders ranging from McVeigh to Adkission just over a year ago)?”
Will your boy Obama man up and state that Islamic extremists have declared war on us? No mention of Ft. Hood last night. No recognition of the Ft. Hood heroes sitting next to Michelle. Note that the only time he referenced “Islam” was when he referenced the Islamic Republic of Iran.
It was shocking that the Ft. Hood investigative report did not mention “Islam” or “jihad”…

I liked the part where he admonished the Republicans by reiterating that just saying “No” is not leadership. The dumbfounded expressions on all their faces aptly demonstrated that corporate peons don’t know what real leadership is however. Yet these same bozos claim they have meaningful ideas for healthcare reform.

The budget deficit ws about 400 billion for Bush’s last term. The first part of TARP increased 350 . This is paid back by banks with interest. The Bush deficit is now 300-400 billion. The second half of tarp and the 800 billion stimulus is all Obama and gang. Obama likes to count as Bush’s money.
Bush didn’t blame Clinton for 2000 recession. Obama blames everyone.
Who has been running congress for three years , DEMS!!!! They control the money.

We always said that the longer the speech, written report or other long winded talk, the more lies, untruths and bulls— is in it.

Why even bother to analyse what Obama says, it’s all lies, misrepresentations, excuses, a meaningless exercise in rhetoric to try & con everyone again, that’s all he is, a con man, a fraud, it’s just to manipulate the voters.
He’s way out of his depth, floundering around, incompetent, a left-wing radical sophomore in an adult’s job.
Good grief, three more years of this crap……

I’m tired of people who argue that fixing our problems can’t be done overnight, yet are so narrowly focused that they believe that the economic mess was done by just the Bush administration alone. The sub prime market was introduced by the Carter administration through the Community Reinvestment Act in 77 which lowered the qualifications necessary for bank loans so that banks could lend to less qualified people under the guise of “giving back to the community” then the Clinton administration signed the modernization act in 2000 which deregulated the banks for the first time since the Great Depression. The “8 year” problem is actually a result of policies that were adopted over a number of decades.

I have never heard a politician talk so much and say so little. Obama is overexposed and has lost any shred of credibility he hoped to have.
Obama is loser. The Dems were very, very foolish to betray the briliant Hillary Rodham Clinton for the unqualified, unprepared disaster Obama who is destroying the Democratic Party.
New leadership is needed in the White House, Senate, House and the DNC.
Hillary 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
** RUN ** HILLARY ** RUN!!!!!**
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“change has not come fast enough”? Is this guy kidding me? The massive changes he was proposing, that had to be done NOW (!!!) were and are unwanted by the majority of voters in ths country. The idea that cap/trade, healthcare/insurance reform, etc. were big emergencies just didn’t ring true. Well, now we see that they were political suicide and are not such big emergencies after all. When it comes re-election time cap/trade, global warming, and healthcare be damned!
This president is uber out of touch and it shows…bad!!!

So what did he say? Rather, what did he say that was believable? I am now on medicare and they are going to cut my benifits. The tax cuts that helped the economy for most of the last 6 years are going away. Our space program is being gutted (wanna take a ride to the space station on a Chinese rocket in five years?). He is sure no JFK. Unions are gaining power, we are giving the rights that citizins enjoy to terrorists who want to kill us, Etc ERtc. For sure that is change you can keep.
I supported this guy last year, now I can’t wait to vote against him and anyone that supports his idiotic plans.
Come on November.

Forget the 10th Amendment… we want bigger federal government right now!

I couldn’t watch the train wreck in progress. I wonder how many did? I don’t get how the media expect us to believe them when they say he’s such a great orator. He’s awful. On both substance and delivery.

Who is proof-reading these articles for ABC News??? “he president couched his assertion” … “tax cuts that we part of” … Come on. Does anyone there even bother reading what you guys are churning out?

Rasmussen puts his approval index at minus 17 today.
Fascist Hyena | Jan 28, 2010 1:02:25 PM
And Rasmussen’s last MA poll had Scott Brown losing. But cute use of “approval index” to make it sound like you’re saying something important.

like there hasn’t been a good moment to seat the dule-elected Sen. Brown.
Carol | Jan 28, 2010 12:59:09 PM
It would be ILLEGAL to seat Brown – by MA law, their election results are not final until 10 days after the election to allow for ballots from overseas troops to be counted. But I doubt little things like reality matter to your Two Minute Hate.

Those are all the signs of a government that is no longer “for the people”.
Rocky | Jan 28, 2010 12:28:30 PM
By your fantastical definition, the US government hasn’t been for the people since the day it was founded.

I think Obama should just cut to the chase. Enough already. Simply totally, permanently nationalize the National Guard and seize the countries State Houses. Likewise use the Secret Service to summarily detain the Supreme Court Justices and sequester them in one of those secret prisons. We’ve had enough with the archaic Constitution, separation of powers, and the like. It is time for “CHANGE” and we want it now. Obama is the “One”!

Never was so much puffery delivered to
so many in one night, except for every
other speech this rabble-rouser has
pumped out. A true carny-barker in an
expensive suit, shod by Gucci.

progressive mama wrote: “When he was supposed to be meek, he showed confidence.”..
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Actually all he showed was his big ears… left ear, right ear, left ear, right ear….
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When has he ever looked straight into the camera and spoke to the American people? He can’t do it…. the teleprompter is his little binky blanket.

“As Obama pushed his two “signature” issues, socialized medicine and cap n trade, our nation’s unemployment and foreclosure rates skyrocketed”
Can you explain how two issues under debate in Congress and not enacted in any way about health care and the environment affected housing and unemployment?
We’re still feeling the aftershocks of the dream Republican economy; profits for doing nothing while wage earners get the shaft.
The GOP response said it all. Same boilerplate for the last 30 years.
In that time, the GOP held the Presidency for 20 years.
They controlled the Senate for 18 years.
They controlled the House for 12 years.
Every time the GOP has run the country they have run it into the ground.

I have tio believe this empty suit has lost it mentally. I read where Bush has a IQ of 125 and that Obama has an IQ of 130. Frankly I think Bush is more inteligent than this current putz because he didn’t lie everytime he opened his mouth whereas Obama lies and blames everybody for his own stupidity. Then he berated the Supreme Court for opening the doors for businesses to donate to political elections. He forgot he took in over $400 million in illegal donations from foreigners to get elected. He then proved the Peter Principle by showing he incompetence. I turned off the TV so I wouldn’t get sick listening to him. I hope his teleprompter breaks so he will shut up. Ciao! WW Terry

jr, if you didn’t watch it, why comment? My patriotism extends to listening to every State of the Union address, whether the candidate I voted for won or not.
That said, I thought Obama hit all the right notes.
Jake left out much of the good stuff from his too abbreviated story above. (That in itself is a puzzle.)
One of the most important facts mentioned was that the banks have paid back most of the money they borrowed from the taxpayers.That is terrific news.
Obama wants to collect the balance by levying a fee on the biggest banks. This is great news. As he noted, they can afford it as they have continued giving out their super-sized bonuses.
The other noteworthy fact was that Obama is proposing a 30 billion loan (from the returned big bank cash) to be made to small community banks to enable them to extend credit to small businesses. Apparently the big mega banks aren’t giving credit to small businesses even if the businesses are making a profit. With small businesses the main engine of our economy and a big employer, these loans will definitely help the economy out.
A good point was made by Obama on expanding the economy in a sustainable manner. There is money for green tech projects, high speed rail, etc.
The big expansion in our economy before the bust was mainly fueled on make-believe gains like over-inflated housing prices, over rated bonds and financial products. That kind of pretend economic boom will always lead to a big bust.
There was a lot more good stuff. If you haven’t read the transcript I suggest you spend ten minutes and do so rather than reading ‘sound bites’ reports, as they can really be misleading.

I, I, I, I, I, me, I, me, me, me, I……
Narcissism and public speaking faux pas 101. Ruining the economony and eroding the value of the dollar on a daily basis.
Welcome Back Carter!

“a great energized speech” says Progressive Mama!
Did you ever see “Glengerry Glen Cross”? I’d like to watch it again for the parts where Jack Lemmon is so desperate to make another dismal sale. I’ll bet he gives an “energized speech”.
Personally, I’ve never heard him more defensive or more glum.
But some of his usual talents were in awesome display: he is truly a master at setting up and then trivializing and demeaning good Americans who offer different views.
Ugh. America is getting better and better at watching the miserable mendacity of this man. Last night exposed it more than ever.

Obama is a man who can not be trusted. Everything he has said he will do he has not.
1. Still waiting for all bills to be posted on the internet.
2. Did not see any health care discussion or any other legislation on CSPAN
3. He has hired lobbyists for his administration when he said he would not.
4. Several of his cabinet members were tax cheats. What do you think would have happened if you or I did not pay our taxes because “we forgot”
5. Last I checked, Gitmo is still open, I believe he is a week past his deadline.
6. Unemplyoment will exceed 8% if the stimulus bill is not passed, unemployment is now over 10%. Oh I forgot that was Bush’s fault.
7.Almost a terrorist catastrophe on Christmas, the Middle East acknowledges he is weak in foreign policy. Article on the BBC, Britain give Obama an f in foreign policy.
8. Anyone want to place odds that all service personnel will be out of Iraq by August?
9. Bribes and kickbacks to get the health care bill passed. Cornhusker Kickback and the Louisiana Purchase.
10. Jumps to conclusions without all the facts (Caimbridge Police Dept.)
I could go on and on, but it all boils down to incompetency. Face it, he was only elected because he carried a substantial african american and young/first time vote, who normally would not vote in other elections. No other president in history has had a lower approval rating 1 year into his term.
If I were a dem up for reelection, I would run for the hills if B.O. offered to come to stump for my reelection. After all, he was so successful in VA, NJ, MA.

demeaning good Americans
Posted by: Carol
what part was that ?

Politico has a really good article fact checking what Obama said last night. I suggest for all to read it, especially those who are so quick to jump to his defense. I’ll just leave it at that.

Posted by: jhw539 | Jan 28, 2010 11:48:28 AM
Give me a break! I never said that tax credits don’t lower a person’s tax liability. My point was that tax credits are “spending” and tax cuts are not. Many different things accomplish the same effect. A beer might quench your thirst. And so might a cup of coffee. Just because they both may quench your thirst doesn’t mean beer and coffee are the same thing.

Democrats have had complete control of Congress for the last 36 months.
Complete control.
Thirty-six months.
How do you like what they’ve accomplished with the deficit, economy, jobs, national security, education, etc., so far?

Trust issues? Yes i have trust issues. Bush is no longer President. As Obama and Pelosi and Reid remind us everyday they are in charge. So they get to own their own messes now. SO, when three different spokesmen go on three different talk shows and shell out three different jobs numbers, i get worried: lying or incompetence? When “transparency” and the “end of pork” equals middle of the night votes and “special deals” for Ben Nelson I know there is no “change”, just more graft. And, oh, by the way, those “evil” corporations and banks?? WHO do you think they employ??? Go ahead and keep pushing that button and see where unemployment goes. First president ever to publicly call out the Supreme Court during a SOTU speech. Did you catch Alito mouthing “not true”? That marks the second time Obama has been called a liar in the House chamber…maybe they are on to something. But, it’s okay, change IS coming…November 2nd.

Democrats have had complete control of Congress for the last 36 months.
Complete control.
Campers | Jan 28, 2010 1:52:49 PM
They have NOT had a filibuster proof majority for 36 months (they barely had it for 6 months, and even then only if you call Joe “Vote for McCain” Lieberman a Democrat), and Republicans have set records for the number of filibusters ever since falling into the minority. Republicans have filibustered almost twice as much as any Democratic minority ever, in the 200+ year history of the Senate.

Ryan C
Your education must have come from liberal college professors. Let’s correct:
Great Depression – Caused by Dem Wilson and sustained by Dem Roosevelt
Stock Market Crash of 80′s – Caused by Dem Carter. Rebound caused by Rep Reagan.
S&L Scandals – caused by liberal government regulations put in place during Dem Johnson.
Economic collapse of 2008 – caused by liberal Dem Frank housing policies. How about the strong 7 years prior – that would be Rep. Bush

“President Bush is yesterday’s news. It would be prudent for him to never use the word “inherited.” again. Yet, he seems forever stuck in the pubescent, playground blame game.”
Because we all remember the great example of Bush taking responsibility for the economy, 9/11, etc.
The right wing projection is reaching atmospheric levels.

At least Obama has a proactive plan. It is clear the Republicans are hoping that through obstruction they can hang around until November… when they believe they can gain back the majority…and then they can return to what they did between 2000 – 2006…Zilch.
Go Obama!

They have NOT had a filibuster proof majority for 36 months (they barely had it for 6 months, and even then only if you call Joe “Vote for McCain” Lieberman a Democrat), and Republicans have set records for the number of filibusters ever since falling into the minority. Republicans have filibustered almost twice as much as any Democratic minority ever, in the 200+ year history of the Senate.
It not fair!

I find myself turning the channel to mindless reality shows merely as an escape from listening to his droning, repetitive speeches.
Mkat | Jan 28, 2010 1:47:07 PM
You should try turning the TV off entirely (I did – I got my daughter to bed and then played with a silly $5 milk foamer for a bit). I don’t like Obama’s oratory style much either and typically just read the transcripts- nothing of substance comes from the delivery. And TV can manipulate my opinion without my really noticing (color saturation tricks, sound mix, brightness, shot selection, etc), so for actual news I always prefer a written medium (mostly internet).

It not fair!
Demo | Jan 28, 2010 2:01:09 PM
Sorry if documented reality offends you.

“Great Depression – Caused by Dem Wilson and sustained by Dem Roosevelt”
ROFLMAO!
Right wingers really do have political amnesia. I wonder if its willfull or just ignorance.
Strange how Wilson caused the Depression which began in 1929 8 years after he left office.
Roosevelt was elected in 1932. His initiatives in the next 4 years saw unemployment drop and the economy grow.
FDR was concerned about deficits so there was a spending freeze in 1937 which saw unemployment tick back up a bit before the massive GOVERNMENT SPENDING of WW2 brought us fully out of the Depression.
“Stock Market Crash of 80′s – Caused by Dem Carter. Rebound caused by Rep Reagan.”
Again Carter left office in 1981.
The crash of 1987 has largely been chalked up to market psychology.
A perfect storm of panic if you will.
Reagan at this time was embroiled in the Iran Contra affair.
The Dow slowly recovered and was at about where it was in 1985 when Reagan left office.
“S&L Scandals – caused by liberal government regulations put in place during Dem Johnson.”
Wrong.
The S & L Crisis happened thanks to deregulation.
With Bush Brother Neil costing taxpayers how much? $1.3 BILLION?
“Economic collapse of 2008 – caused by liberal Dem Frank housing policies. How about the strong 7 years prior – that would be Rep. Bush”
What strong 7 years prior?
Real wages remained stagnant even as the Dow climbed and the GDP showed growth.
The Republicans had run Congress since 1994.

“here have to attack Republicans through history”
ROFLMAO!
The new GOP campaign slogan
“Forget the Past and Give Us Another Chance to Ruin the Country!”

“Meanwhile, the dead-enders are in serious denial/anger mode.”
Really?
I’m not a fan of the tea parties either but that seems a bit harsh.

To Progressive Mama:
I am curious, not being a jerk, what is it that really works, per history? I know Bush and his people were rejected, that’s fair — but what is it that is time tested that works from the progressive left? I am also trying to reconcile this with all of the survey data that continues to show the median voter in america to be center right on the ideological spectrum. those voters can clearly reject an individual without rejecting their ideology completely. isn’t it just as fair to say that they wanted bush and his people out for a variety of reasons, but now see the influence of those beyond center left to be too strong?

He wants a jobs bill as if by magic jobs will be created by the flick of his pen. If that were the case, why not create a bill that demands the creation of 3 million jobs? Why not? And while we are at it, let’s repeal the law of gravity. Such hubris. Government creates nothing. You want jobs? Cut corporate and business taxes. Cut taxes for ALL, yes even for the rich. This guy and the 435 bozos in Congress have produced NOTHING in their lives…why should they start now?

So, that would mean that is what they WANTED…a NO vote on the healthcare agenda. Since the voters were liberals, conservatives, independents and libertarians (he got votes from them all), wouldn’t that mean an “across the board” obstruction?
Posted by: Shoe | Jan 28, 2010 2:22:26 PM
You would think so, but oddly, that isn’t what the polls show. According to the poll results I read, most want him to work with Dems on doing something– albeit something different than what is on the table. They don’t want obstruction. Massachusetts is a bit peculiar because they have health care and some of the folks who voted for Brown are more liberal than those who voted for the governor of Virginia, though the latter ran somewhat to the center. Most citizens in Massachusetts support health care reform.

As a former supporter I found this speech disgraceful. Obama does not seem to realize he’s the President. Attacks on the Supreme Court have no place in the SOTU. Attacks on the prior administration, whining about the conditions under which you took office have no place. Complaints about the opposing party have no place.
The dismissal of the people’s objection to being forced to buy health INSURANCE show he has learned nothing.
But then it was over for me when Obama embraced Geithner as he walked to the podium. Mr. President if you’re going to attack Wall Street, don’t embrace their errand boy. I think the concern about the SC decision rests on the belief that the voters are stupid.
Mr. President you saw in Mass. that we are not. You will relearn this in November in NY.

progressive mama, it was my understanding that the voters in Massachusetts (48% of them) had healthcare as their top priority going to the voting booth. Since that seems to be the case, as I said earlier, they knew Scott Brown as a Republican, and knew that his vote on the healthcare bill was almost guaranteed to be “no”. They voted him in. Again, that would make anyone think that the people do not want this particular bill to pass… that cannot be construed as “Republican obstruction”.

p.s. I know that my disclaimer about the progressive left sounds odd given my screen name but if the “progressive left” is firedoglake and others, I’m just not that far left on many things. More pragmatic progressive– want things actually done. Not holding out for utopia in either direction.

“WILL THIS MAN EVER TELL THE TRUTH.
HE HAS COME TO CONCLUSION THAT HE IS SO ABOVE ALL OF US THAT I NEVER WATCH ANY OF HIS SPEECHES. BESIDES TO SEE THE IDIOTS BEHIND HIM IS NAUSEATING.”
I was wondering when we would hear from the incoherent right.

This guy just talks to hear himself. Does anyone listen to his B.S. anymore?

I find myself turning the channel to mindless reality shows
Posted by: Mkat
Beck, O’Reilly, Hannity,, radio Rush
I’ll agree, they are mindless..

“Meanwhile, the dead-enders are in serious denial/anger mode.”
Really?
I’m not a fan of the tea parties either but that seems a bit harsh.
Posted by: Ryan C | Jan 28, 2010 2:21:55 PM
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Its been fun watching the National Tea Party Convention fall apart. Just now the folks are catching on that its all a bit “scammy.” Better late than never, I s’pose.

People whose primary skill is in manipulating and persuading other people to do what they want naturally find it in their interest for wealth to be divided based on political means and pull. People whose primary skill is in actually making real goods and services that others will freely choose to buy in the real world naturally find it in their interst for wealth to be divided based on performance and free markets. The former type people naturally favor collectivist/statist systems ranging from communism, fascism, secular or Christian socialism, to modern “progressive” liberalism and typically vote Democrat. The former type people naturally favor free enterprise/individualist systems ranging from objectivism to libertarianism, classical liberalism, movement Conservatism and typically vote Republican. America has really not seen a hard core collectivist ideology government since LBJ. Obama is a reminder what that is like. Whether Obama’s ideology wins or whether there is a conservative resurgence will ultimately turn on whether the majority of Americans identify with those riding on the wagon or those pulling the wagon. Personally I hope the latter wins since the outcome when the former come into dominance is all bad from Venezuela, Cuba and Zimbabwae in modern times to Stalin’s Russia and Mao’s China in earlier times.

This president is deranged.
Posted by: Jorge | Jan 28, 2010 3:48:15 PM
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WASHINGTON: Eight in ten Americans have approved of the proposals president Barack Obama made in his State of the Union speech on Wednesday, according to a new poll.
An instant poll conducted by CBS News and Knowledge Networks found that 83% of speech watchers approve Obama’s proposals, while 17% disapprove them.
It also revealed that 70% of speech watchers think that Obama shares the same priorities for the country as they do. Only 57% thought so before the speech.
ANI

What we need to keep our eye on is that BOTH sides of the aisle are equally culpable in responsibility for our current economic malaise. What all members of Congress need to do is keep the PEOPLES wallet locked up and stop all the unnecessary boondogle spending.
I don’t need the governments help in supporting my family. I will do it by myself, thank you very much, Mr. Obama.
Instead of robbing from Peter to buy something from Paul,as is the 300B dollars targeted for job creation, we need to be responsible adults and pay back the money to whom we owe it to; the Chinese.
All presidents since Bush 41 are guilty of spending “stupidly” on crap we did not need, yet necessary items are low balled with low bid contracts which end up with substandard junk that doesn’t work.
Wake up America; these D.C. rodeo clowns do not care for the regular American. They are narcissists and elitists.

People are “tired of the partisanship”? A “GOP he sees as partisan and obstructionist”? I’m sorry Mr. President but who had the super-majority for the past year and still couldn’t pass health insurance reform without buying off fellow Democrats? The Republicans were in no position to be obstructionists for the past year. “We cut taxes”? No you didn’t. You gave tax credits to people who do not pay taxes. That’s redistributing wealth not cutting taxes. He wants a “jobs bill on [his] desk without delay”? What was the $787 Billion stimulus bill? And now we need to have another one? These politicians do not realize that the government does NOT create jobs. Companies create jobs when the environment is conducive to do so. And this administration is not creating a good environment in which companies want to create jobs. With health insurance reform, “the longer it was debated, the more skeptical people became.” NO – the longer it was debated the more people learned and the less they liked it. “If anyone from either party has a better approach that will bring down premiums, … and stop insurance company abuses, let me know.” The Republicans have offered many ideas and better approaches but nobody is listening because the Republicans have been locked out of the negotiations. To borrow Joe Wilson’s line “You Lie”!!!

“I’m sorry Mr. President but who had the super-majority for the past year and still couldn’t pass health insurance reform without buying off fellow Democrats”
Democrats had a “super majority” for all of six months and that is if you consider Lieberman still to be a Democrat which he does not.
“The Republicans have offered many ideas and better approaches but nobody is listening because the Republicans have been locked out of the negotiations.”
Completely false.
The Republicans ideas for healthcare reform is for the insurance company to stop using lubricant while screwing their patients.

Have you read any of their proposals?”
Yup
1) Allowing people to buy insurance across state lines.
This is to allow the insurance companies to sell policies from states with the least consumer protections to states that actually protect their consumers.
We’ve already seen this play with credit card companies.
2) Ending “junk” lawsuits.
Of course the CBO stated that since most states (including the biggest ones) have already enacted payment caps and further caps will have minimum impact on healthcare costs.
3) High risk pools for those with chronic or preexisting conditions.
Ask the drivers of New Jersey if high risk pools have lowered car insurance costs for other drivers?
And that is with insurance where those in the high risk pool are less likely to need their insurance than those with pre-existing or chronic conditions.
That also ignores the enormous cost that these high risk plans will likely entail.
4) Eliminating the unjust cancellation insurance polices.
That is the claim. But when you look at the actual bill (also posted) you’ll find the GOP bill WEAKENS this by putting more onerous on the customer and allowing the insurance companies more leeway in canceling.

I can only imagine the teleprompter – “time to ad lib” . . . “speak next sentence in a joking manner” . . . Is he really so dumb as to think that Americans are upset because his changes AREN’T being passed? This is so sad.

He understands the American’s anxieties? He and the dems in congress are the cause of those anxieties in the first place. Which is why we saw the election in MASS go the way it did.
We wouldn’t even be having this discussion if Obama and the left had concentrated on the economy and jobs from the start instead of trying to ram their agenda thru.
To top things off the dems are saying they just wern’t liberal enough. They didn’t spend enough. The health care bill was to small. Good luck with that! LMAO

Great stuff. All the polls showing widespread approval for Obama’s proposals, his ideas. his plans to reduce the deficit, his this, and his that, does anyone really believe this BS. Losses in Virginia, New Jersey and Mass. show that the American people see through the lies and deception, and anyone who wants to look at some real polls about Obama should look at Gallup, Pew and Rasmussim, and some made up focus group opinion. The progressives still don’t get it, even after they are elected out of office they will stay in denial. Adios!

Sorry for the lon post but some things need to be set straight…
Ryan C – If you read the Republican’s plans you didn’t get it and you chose to highlight the points that you could put down. Here’s a different take on it:
1. Buying insurance across state lines
This allows consumers to choose which insurance they want to buy and what coverage they want versus some bureaucrat in the state government. What you call “consumer protections” I call state mandated coverage and it accounts for 20-50% of a premium depending on the state (Council for Affordable Health Insurance). These “consumer protections” include things like massage therapy. You mentioned car insurance, consider a car insurance policy that covered accidents. Oh wait, we have that as an OPTION. If we pay extra for it we get it. Now imagine if your state required that you had to carry it? Would you call it a “consumer protection”? Could you afford it? Or should the government provide it for you?
2. Junk Lawsuits – or Tort Reform. Over 90% of the donations from the Trial Lawyers Association went to Democrats. Wonder why tort reform is not considered? Also the accounting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers says about 10% of the cost of medical service is attributable to medical malpractice lawsuits. Roughly 2% is caused by direct costs of the lawsuits; an additional 5% to 9% is due to expenses run up by defensive medicine. So yes, 2% may be minimal but the extra 5-9% would be a nice savings.
3. That’s not the solution I’ve read about pre-existing conditions. The one I heard was to have people who are “in the system” be able to move from one company to another and not be denied. There would need to be an enrollment period but after that if you haven’t gotten insured then it’s on you. This is the best approach as it does not allow you to get car insurance after you’ve had an accident.
4. See #3
You missed a few:
5. Vouchers for the working poor so that they can buy their own insurance (their choice) versus the Dems plan to expand Medicaid. If their situation improves they can afford it they get to keep the insurance.
6. Level the Tax code so that I can purchase my own insurance and get the same tax break as a corporation – seems fair.
7. Expand Health Savings Accounts so that I can have a catastrophic insurance policy (cheaper) and pay for routine care and deductibles with pre-tax dollars
By the way, do you know what lowered the cost of car insurance in NJ? That little green lizard. For years he wasn’t allowed to sell car insurance in NJ and rates remained high even with high risk pools. Once the law was changed to allow REAL competition the rates went down. I saved quite a bit with that little guy. Oh, and then there’s that pesky thing with lawsuits and ambulance chasing lawyers that helps drive up the premiums.

“Ryan C – If you read the Republican’s plans you didn’t get it and you chose to highlight the points that you could put down”
That was taken directly from their website.
“2. Junk Lawsuits – or Tort Reform. Over 90% of the donations from the Trial Lawyers Association went to Democrats. Wonder why tort reform is not considered? Also the accounting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers says about 10% of the cost of medical service is attributable to medical malpractice lawsuits. Roughly 2% is caused by direct costs of the lawsuits; an additional 5% to 9% is due to expenses run up by defensive medicine. So yes, 2% may be minimal but the extra 5-9% would be a nice savings.”
I’ll take the non partisan CBO’s assessment of tort reform which has it at 0.5% of healthcare costs.

“By the way, do you know what lowered the cost of car insurance in NJ? That little green lizard. For years he wasn’t allowed to sell car insurance in NJ and rates remained high even with high risk pools.”
And after a couple of years of cut throat to grab market share, those companies are back to ripping off New Jersey drivers.

“This allows consumers to choose which insurance they want to buy and what coverage they want versus some bureaucrat in the state government. What you call “consumer protections” I call state mandated coverage and it accounts for 20-50% of a premium depending on the state (Council for Affordable Health Insurance). ”
ROFLMAO!
Only a right winger would cite a an insurance company flunky group as some source of authority.

Obma afalling out of favor and for good reason. Tells us he’s eliminating special interests, then he cuts deals with his constituents, unions, trial lawyers.
Tells us he’s concerned with deficits, then presents a fraudulent deficit program which does nothing to solve the real problem.
If you want proof of what kind of leader we have, the democrats have now changed the name of the stimulus bill to the “jobs bill.” Do they really think that we don’t notice?
Never have I seen an american president still up class envy, populism, much Hugo Chavez does. Does that untite us? No.
Obama had absolutely experience and is a leftist radical. Now we’re paying for it.

“So tax credit which lower a person’s tax liability is spending but cutting taxes that lower a person’s tax liability is not.”
Posted by: Ryan C | Jan 28, 2010 1:57:27 PM
Yes!

The voters in Mass. were a CLEAR rejection of Obama and the Marx / Alinsky style of governance.
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Not really, it probably shows more a general frustration with politics and politicians – somebody must be punished and its usualy the incumbent.
Also the continued world-wide economic problems play a significant role. Reagan fell to 35% approval rating during his first time (far below Obama’s current approval rating) – and he too was dealing with a very difficult economy.

Ryan C and the Planet B guy sure have a lot to say here, Too bad they have nothing intelligent to contribute here.

Jhw539 & Ryan C, here is an illustration:
You go into a store and purchase a product for $100. The store is offering a mail-in rebate of $25. You pay $100 (plus tax) now and in a week you receive the $25. The store CAN claim that they SPENT $25. HOWEVER, if instead of a mail-in rebate the store sold the product for $25 less, you still paid $75 (plus tax). But now the store cannot claim that they “spent” $25.
NOTE: With the mail-in rebate you would pay the sales tax on $100. With the lowered price you pay the sale tax on the $75. So while your net payment would not be the exactly same, the fact is that your cost was lowered in both cases.

I apologize to everyone else who got my illustration to have to spell it out for Ryan C.
In a tax cut the government lowers the cost of your tax due. In a tax credit you have to file and mail in to get the credit (you just lower the amount according to the instructions on the tax form). In the former the government can’t claim it “spent” the money because it just lowered the cost of your tax. In the latter the government can claim it spent the money because it actually IS spending the money.

Just a 70 minute campaign speech Again.

“I thought I’d get some applause on that one,” he joked.
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I thought it was funny. The Republicans looked like embalmed corpses sitting there.

tierra, just got back from work and don’t have time to sit around commenting all day. It is amusing how those on the left like to call everyone who disagrees with them a right winger. Am not a Democrat or a Republican, more of a Libertarian in belief, which means live and let live, less government control over our lives, less taxes, belief in the Constitution. What Obama is doing is opposed to what I believe because he is expanding government, will need to raise taxes, ect. When the Bush tax cut expire everyone will get a tax increase, at least for those of us who pay taxes.
Tax breaks help the economy and tax increases will hurt the economy, which is not what we need now in these hard times. It is telling that the states run by Democrats are by in large in worse shape fiscally than those run by Republicans. My state of Hawaii had been run into the ground by 40 years of Democrat control. Very sad. The federal deficit has grow by record levels to the point where not only are our children in debt to us but to China.Obama is growing government faster than any president before him, and in my opinion using the Cloward-Piven method, which is to overwhelm the system to the point where we must become more dependent on government for everything. Very dangerous ! Also imagine if a ” right winger ” running for president had attended a racist church for 20 years. The media really let us down in the last election, of course we had 2 poor candidates so what can you do. I watched yesterdays speech and was not surprised to see just another lying politician. Disappointed but not surprised. What can a Democrat president who is beholden to the unions and the trial lawyers do. He promised transparency but we get secrecy. So much more to say, but that is enough for now. Thanks and best wishes

“tierra, just got back from work and don’t have time to sit around commenting all day. It is amusing how those on the left like to call everyone who disagrees with them a right winger”
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I didn’t call you a right winger; it might serve you well to read a littl more thoroughly. You stooped to personal insult and I replied.
“Sadly you mimick Republican right behavior – when you don’t have a leg to stand on in a discussion, insult and attack the person. It lowers the quality of dialogue in the country. Sad.”
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“When the Bush tax cut expire everyone will get a tax increase, at least for those of us who pay taxes.”
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Two things. The Bush tax cuts are part of the reason the country is in so much debt right now – Bush cut taxes but kept spending – also the 2 unpaid for wars and the unpaid for drug plan for seniors. How did he expect this would be paid for – taxes on somebody else’s shift. Unfortunately he also watched as the economy collapsed on his shift.
Regarding increased taxes, Obama again committed to what he promised during the election campaign. Tax increases on those earning over $250,000 (and oil companies), nobody else.
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“Also imagine if a ” right winger ” running for president had attended a racist church for 20 years.”
I’ve watched sermons from that church and I saw NOTHING racist. Is race talked about – yes. Was it racist? Not at all. Guess what – talking about racism is not racist. You’ve been dealt a cartoon version of that church and a couple of out-of-context sound bites. Regrettably, most of the herd falls for that nonsense.

More blame Bush nonsense. The reason our country is in debt right now is because the Democrats won the Senate in 2006.
Since 2006 the Democrats have been controlling Congress and crafting our budgets.
Furthermore, the herd didn’t fall for the Rev. Wright issue, it fell for Obama’s empty promises.
Get it right.

“Tax increases on those earning over $250,000 (and oil companies), nobody else.”
Posted by: tierra | Jan 29, 2010 5:26:23 AM
On February 4, 2009, President Obama said: “Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.”
“Not any of your taxes.” YET THAT VERY SAME DAY he signed into law the increase of the federal tax on cigarettes.

Progressive Mama, Stuck in the 80s ? I guess in your world it is the poor who don’t pay taxes who create jobs, unless you are talking about government jobs.
The bigger and more powerful government gets, the less real freedom we the people have.