‘This Was a Screw-Up That Could Have Been Disastrous’

Just now realizing that huh?…maybe a bit too much shaved ice ya think.

This is all Obamas fault. How does that sound. Cant blame this on Bush. For all you Bush Haters I just had to say that. Honestly its the Terrorist fault. Nobody elses fault. How stupid can people be for blaming this on the President. I know it wont change the idiots of america that blamed everything on Bush, but really think how stupid it sounds now that your president is in office and people say its Obamas fault every time something goes wrong. We have open borders, we let anyone come in this country so things like this will continue. These terroist have not bought into the idea we want to be friends with now, that obama is president. They dont care about him or anybody. If we really think he is going to change the attitude of a terroist we are the real stupid people in the world.

JHW- Here is a statment for you I have yet to see.”CHANGE” that was a campaign slogan I think. Also, some word called “Transparent” government? I dont think either of those have been remotely done this year. I guess I can “HOPE” and “WAIT” for 3 more years and “HOPE” I see some “CHANGE”. How frightening is it to tell people, Hey there are terrorist out there and they dont care about you and yes they will come to the US and Kill you. I think that is a factual statement is it not?

Yup, it was a massive screw up thanks to the “alleged, isolated” action by a few agents who failed to connect the dots… Responsibility goes up the chain of command and for what happened presenting a cool crappy golfer image was not what a president should have been doing. Granted that he should not have rushed back to the capitol pushed by the “isolated, alleged bomber”; but atleast a semblance of hand on preoccupation with what was very close to 911-like tragedy would have gone a long way in infusing public confidence in this pitiable president who goes around the world mea-culpa-ing for all the good that the US has done for the world… If only Bush had done this, just imagine how many forests would have been wiped off and carbon produced by the media… Surely, Joe Klein would be busy drafting an “in defense of BHO” What a shame…

JWH- Oh you forgot this one. I will have C-Span show the health care reform and show america what we are doing. What a load of crap! Oh yea the stimulus website that shows cities and places who received federal money that dont even exist. What about the banks who have said they dont have to show one dime of where that money is spend. Yep Real Transparency.
Terrorism- If I am not mistaken, after 9/11 till 2008 we didnt have a terrorist board a plane in the US and almost blow it up. I am well aware of the English Language that is spoken, and if you think singing Kum-Ba-Yay and holding hands with terrorist and talking to them in a nice way is reality then this wont be the last time. Its funny how you say fear tactics, but since you are having trouble with the English Language its called the WORD-TRUTH. The truth hurts sometimes and I would much rather get hurt by the truth than to get hurt by a terrorist.

What an arrogant performance by Mr. Obama.
When will he again accept questions from the media? Event though they are adoring and out practice, it would be refreshing to see a little interplay.

JWH- Oh you forgot this one. I will have C-Span show the health care reform and show america what we are doing. What a load of crap! Oh yea the stimulus website that shows cities and places who received federal money that dont even exist. What about the banks who have said they dont have to show one dime of where that money is spend. Yep Real Transparency.
ted | Jan 5, 2010 11:15:39 PM
I gave the documented examples of more transparency than any other administration in history. Being rational, I’m fine with merely “best ever” rather than the “absolutely perfect” you seem to expect. (I know you may have trouble believing this, but like most Obama supporters I do NOT and never did think Obama perfect or able to walk on water, merely the best option and a capable centrist based on his documented record in IL).
Ultimately, I am more interested to see how his economic policy comes out – if he proves as effective as Bill Clinton I’ll be thrilled.

“Let me be clear”….” This was a screwup that could have been potentially disastrous”……for my presidency. – that is.
Posted by: rednorth | Jan 5, 2010 11:31:05 PM
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There were a lot of people on that plane.
Something in the security system screwed up – of course he’s intense and demanding about this. Somebody didn’t do their job properly, or some system put in place did not work.
We don’t know – it is entirely possible a saboteur could have screwed some part of the communication system up.
I would be identifying exactly where and how this happened – and holding people absolutely accountable at that level.

JWH- Yes you would have to get records from his work in Illinois because he was never at work while congressman in Washington. Really though quite using the word Transparent with this president. Being truthful he has shown to strike down a Bush order, but has done nothing with it than any other president has done. Dont even try to compare him to Clinton. He is on the verge of Jimmy Carter. Actually Carter’s Approval rating was higher than Obamas at this time in their presidency’s/

Carter
Posted by: ted
Carter had a greater level of job creation than ‘W’,
in only 4 years….. Republicans are such failures, they claim victory as the country falls off the cliff.

Responsibility goes up the chain of command Posted by: Ba-Ba-Bamba
so you finally admit, Bush was responsible for Sept 11th… impressive
always fascinating how the ‘fringe’ and the ‘right’ demand instantaneous action, immediate solutions, prompt press conference and accountability, now, …it is a shame that Bush & the republicans were not held to those standards as the country would not be in the dire circumstances we find ourselves in
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Good catch on the hypocisy about the chain of command and the double standards XX. The right seem to have no shame and little sense of ethics at all.

Posted by: ted | Jan 6, 2010 12:33:03 AM
XX was making an excellent post – the right wing and the Republicans have double standards – hypocritical. They hold Obama to one standard and their own president to another. Sleazy.

Terrorism- If I am not mistaken, after 9/11 till 2008 we didnt have a terrorist board a plane in the US and almost blow it up.
ted | Jan 5, 2010 11:15:39 PM
You are mistaken. The underwear bomber did NOT board a plane in the US, he boarded in Europe. Just like the shoe bomber, who even used the same explosive when he boarded a plane in Europe on Dec 22, 2001 – AFTER 9/11.
I suppose you don’t consider the anthrax attacks terrorist attacks after 9/11/2001 either. That just doesn’t fit with your fantasy narrative that Bush kept us safe. Does the fact that your supporting arguments are in fact utterly wrong impact your opinion at all?

There is no question that there is a systemic problem and, from appearances, The President is on it. Though I have been supportive of firing some of the key players in this story it is really the President’s job and, frankly, we all need to give him a break and let him do what he needs to do.
No question I have been a critic of this President and this Administration and will more than likely continue to be. No question there was a major screw up in this case that could have resulted in a major National disaster. In fact, the potential here was a game changer. The President sees it and as far as I am concerned is working his way through it to find a solution.
This is the good news – he sees it and is on it. Maybe there was this letting down of the guard or, at least the perception of it when the Obama administration took the reigns. I tend to think that the President wanted to send the message to the rest of the world that he wants to open the lines of communication and ease the terse measures that has caused the US to be viewed as the evil empire. If true, then he has to adjust his approach.
In the end, he is our President and, though subject to public scrutiny and on this issue we need to let him do his job. In my view he is ready to do what he needs to do to protect the citizens of this nation.
Let’s thank our lucky stars that this man was stopped. The other thing is that this administration was given a wake up call that they need to be very careful on the messages they send the world – there are people out there that want to hurt us. In my view they got the message and I am grateful for all the above.

Obama considers his Cairo speech to be one of his top three tactics to fight
terrorism.
That’s how arrogant, clueless and dangerous this president is.

Too bad Obama wasn’t as “upset” about the red flags missed before the Ft Hood attack.
Those dots weren’t connected either.
Obama blew that off too as an isolated attack by a guy that went nuts.
He tried to do the same exact thing with the Detroit bomber. Downplay it.
Pretend it was an isolated incident.
Obama didn’t get away with it this time.

In the end, he is our President and, though subject to public scrutiny and on this issue we need to let him do his job. In my view he is ready to do what he needs to do to protect the citizens of this nation.
Posted by: Lone Star Rules
well said

O ya Presindante Oduma Blame Bush or someone else,afterall you do no wrong . Sussest you look in the mirror.

In the end, he is our President and, though subject to public scrutiny and on this issue we need to let him do his job.
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I do not believe anyone is stopping him from doing his job.

This doesn’t seem like a failure of the White House but seems like a failure of the C.I.A. or whatever organization didn’t send out a warning on this guy with the info they had on him.
I’m puzzled why if this man was on a no-fly list in Britain, that isn’t good enough for us to also put him on our no-fly list? Wouldn’t this save a lot of time and money investigating each case if we exchanged lists with our ‘friends’?

But when was this a screw up and who screwed it up?
Two of the masterminds of the recent Christmas attack were released from Guantanimo in 2007 by the Republicans.
Republicans have such a short memory that they put those two in the position to plan their attack on the USA in the First Place.

Obama really is getting tough.
Took him 12 days to revoke the underwear bombers visa.
That’s bound to deter more attacks.
You can’t make this stuff up!

Could have been disastrous??? Mr. President, behind the scenes, this was disastrous, an attempted bombing on the Christmas Holidays nonetheless….This jihad got very very close to completing his objective…don’t you think those that may try to follow are using this information to their benefit……Time to get tough and put these extremists under military authority. These individuals have declared HOLY W-A-R on westerns. They have used bombs and combat techniques against us..MOST ARE NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS and self declared W-A-R combatants therefore should not be granted civilian trials in our country.. Military trials will be NO SHOW trials. If civilian trials are used they are going to play our justice system and the media to their benefit, propaganda on steroids not to mention vital information that will be released into the public domain that may help future bombers…AND a whole lot of civilian lawyers are going to get rich at taxpayers expense and America’s tragedy……THINK…..Could have been disastrous???? You just handed the repubs their tag line for the 2012 campaign. That statement alone probably lost you the 2012 re-election and rightly so….THIS IS A DISASTROUS..

How many of you in the working world get to blame your predecessor for things gone wrong at your job one year into your tenure?
Posted by: tjp612
typical foolish reply,
comparing ones personal employment to inheriting 2 wars and a crashed economy, and massive unemployment,
I’m tempted to say apples and oranges but you might not understand

Doppleganger:
9/11 was Bill Clinton and Janet Reno’s
screwup! They were there for 8 years
during which the U.S.S. Cole was
attacked, the first Trade Center bombing
occurred etc.
I guess Bill was too busy with Monica to
notice Bin Laden!
They treated terrorists the same way
your saviour, Obama, is treating them
like common criminals!
That is wrong-headed and stupid!
Bush and Cheney kept us safe after
9/11! It’s doubtful Mr Blah, Blah, Blah
can do the same!