As “Jumping-Off” Point for Discussions on Health Care, White House Will Post Senate Democratic Bill + Potential Fixes

wow…NOW he’s going to publish the bill? i thought this was supposed to have happened a long time ago…like 72 hours before scott brown was elected…or something like that.

So the starting point is exactly whay Obama and the loony left wing want?
How open minded of them.
We are not all ignorant moonbats out here.

The only thing transparent about the latest health care “reform,” is that now that Obama has a hint of what the Republicans want, he’s going to “publish” his NEW ideas. That’s right, you’ll likely see the GOP ideas as part of his NEW post. So why is he now going public? He wants to claim them as his own, forcing any Republican who crosses the line to support their own ideas to give him the credit in public.

I am so sick and tired of paying high cost for my health insurance,rising copays and less coverage.I am a CNA in a hospital,making 14.00 an hour.I have a son with disabilities.Why do I have to pay so much out of pocket?Does Congress have this problem? NO! So stop sitting around picking your noses,and do the job you were elected to do.Help the American people with this weight on our shoulders.

Obama needs to make Republicans an offer they shouldn’t refuse, but will. The GOP is going to walk away from anything for the simple reason that it is Obama and the Dems proposing it.
Say that tort reform and some other centrist measures will be in a final bill and publicize it, then let the GOP deal with the consequences.

When other high-income nations, like Switzerland and Taiwan in the 90′s, realized their health care systems did not get the job done, they set up commissions, isolated from lobbyists, political posturing, etc. to get the job done and ended up providing universal coverage – in Switzerland’s case with PRIVATE insurance – with comparable quality to the USA and for almost 1/2 the GDP cost.
As long as Congress’s masters among the special interests won’t allow them to let it out of their hands, we won’t get any significant improvement on the costs of health care.
And as long as the American public will continue to support or complain about certain aspects of reforms without having done 5 minutes of googling to understand the positions and possibilities better, Congress is going to be able to make up catchy slogans like “death panels” (never existed) and “private insurance is cheaper than public” (Medicare pays private insurers 13% more per patient to run the alternative Medicare Advantage than the government does for the equivalent Medicare B) and “public option” (some countries like Japan have absolutely NO government insurance and do fine – by requiring non-profits to provide primary coverage). But, people hear what the want to hear, so as long as Congress wants to delay the gouging of Americans by health care for the benefit of the special interests, it will go on.
This “jump-off” point bill will NOT go anywhere even if it was written by a committee of Jesus of Nazareth, Moses, Mohammad, and the Buddha. The GOP is NOT going to give the Dems any victory at all before the November elections.
So the many of you who screamed all last year, “I like my health insurance the way it is,” can expect another huge jump in premiums, a jump in copays and deductibles, and greater restrictions in 2011 coverage in your policy that, in 2010, is already no longer “the way it was” in 2009.

“If proposed premium increases are not justifiable per those Health Insurance Rate Authority guidelines, the HHS Secretary or state regulators could block them.”
Yay socialism.

Well, did I miss something? I thought the American people already rejected this bill! And from what I understand it will be difficult for it to pass the house. What part of “we don’t want it, Mr. President, doesn’t Obama understand?” That is arrogance! It is saying to the American people: “You don’t know anything! I know better than you do!” And I know the liberal/progressive/socialists believe that, but we don’t!

Americans have rejected this type of health care legislation since 1912. The sooner that Obama realizes this, the sooner we can move on to more pressing issues such as JOBS!

Anyone want to guess how many pages are in this plan?

That is arrogance! It is saying to the American people: “You don’t know anything! I know better than you do!”
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Oh sheesh. The arrogance canard again.
As Steve Benen at the Political Animal blog for Washington Monthly puts it: “Is it “arrogant” for GOP lawmakers to take positions that run counter to public attitudes? Americans didn’t want to see escalation in Iraq in 2007 and Republicans said, “Well, we’re going to give it to you anyway.” Americans didn’t want to see federal lawmakers intervene in the Terri Schiavo case in 2005 or spend time working on an anti-gay constitutional amendment in 2006, but Republicans said, “Well, we’re going to give it to you anyway.” Americans weren’t especially fond of the bank bailout in 2008, but that didn’t stop Mitch McConnell from voting for it, effectively telling Americans, “Well, we’re going to give it to you anyway.”
The inverse is true, too. Americans support reforming the way Wall Street does business, passing a climate bill, and ending “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.” In each instance, McConnell, apparently feeling “arrogant,” has decided to tell the country, “Well, we’re not going to give it to you anyway.”
Even someone of McConnell’s limited skills should be able to understand this — Democrats were elected to tackle health care reform. So, they’re trying to do that. This isn’t “arrogant”; it’s policymakers following through on their promises to the electorate.”

Lastly any plan that does not start with controlling the cost of health care procedures is a PLAN TO FAIL.
Posted by: rick1957 | Feb 22, 2010 8:47:51 AM
Atul Gawande, a well-respected medical writer for the New Yorker wrote a great article awhile back called Testing, Testing, which undercuts your message and talks directly about the pilot programs included in the Senate health care reform and how they all tackle medical inflation and the cost curve, and may be one of the best ways to do just that. You might want to read it and open up your mind, because there are three major issues– a growing number of uninsureds, cost and, of course, consumer protections. Cost also gets at various inefficiencies.

Oopsie, when they post this it will be seen clearly that GOP ideas have indeed been incorporated. This will create issues with the right trying to say otherwise. Well, it would with thinking people. Their base will believe anything they are told.
Posted by: secondlook | Feb 22, 2010 8:11:33 AM
Nice point, secondlook.
EJ Dionne also makes a great point on the whole “trash the bill and start over” nonsense:
“Of course it’s absurd to say that the House and the Senate, having worked for a year to pass quite similar bills, should now give up. But Boehner knows what he’s doing: He wants the Democrats to give up on health care because doing so would be the surest way to prove that they lack the guts and competence to govern.
Republicans hate this summit because if it works, it will keep this from happening, and also because it calls many bluffs at once.
Above all, Obama is trying to force the Republicans to put their own health care ideas on the table. As soon as this happens, the debate is no longer about the flaws, real and imagined, in the Democratic proposals. It becomes a choice between what the Democrats want to do and what the Republicans want to do. That’s a fair fight.”
And of course, there’s nothing Republicans hate and fear more than a fair fight.

What do you want: good healthcare for more $$ or crappy healthcare for less. Those are your choices!
Posted by: eatb | Feb 22, 2010 9:05:25 AM
You’re misunderstanding (and misunderestimating, lol) medical inflation and the current premium trend lines. You’re also not figuring likelihood (and cost) of medical bankrupcy. Even AHIP has admitted out loud in public that the system is broken, particularly for individual and small group policy holders.

Where are the measures to reduce health CARE costs?…not just reduce cost of insurance.
The president and Congress MUST do something about the amount of money we and the insurers have to pay TO healthcare providers.
I’m not one for conspiracies, but I’m beginning to wonder about Democrats’ intentions. Unless they do something to reduce the costs of health CARE, it will appear they want to bankrupt private insurers AND place an increasing burden on us to pay more for premiums, co-pays, and deductibles.
Maybe that IS what they want. That way, all of us will be FORCED to agree to and join the public option(s) and/or single payer. If so, we can kiss choice in health insurance AND health care bye-bye.

I stand by my statement — good medical care costs money and if this monstrosity of a plan passes, everyone will pay more via out of pocket costs, higher taxes, poor care. This plan does NOTHING to cut fraud or waste — something this Administration touted as a priority — just like jobs, jobs, jobs.
I am tired of this Adminstration stating that “insurance is broken” “the Senate is broken” blah, blah, blah. You were voted in to fix it . . .please stop talking and do something.

Sorry Skip — when you have people coming to the United States to take advantage of our cutting edge medical services (recently, a high ranking Canadian politican)you must admit that much of the current system is working. If Dems pass healthcare, quality will decline as it has in every country with government run healthcare. Switzerland, which has private insurance which everyone must purchase, monthly insurance premiums are high — same with Massachusetts.

The Republicans HAVE made suggestions they want included in the health insurance reform. Suggestions that would reduce the cost of health CARE…not JUST health insurance.
Posted by: malcat | Feb 22, 2010 9:18:54 AM
I’ve read every one made available. I actually respect Paul Ryan (though I question a couple of his ideological influences and have a very limited range of actual agreement with him. ) He actually has wonk cred. However, the Republican ideas that have been put out there as receiving full caucus support were laughed at by conservative journals. They were a joke and they missed the rapidly growing number of uninsureds problem entirely. I’d respect Republicans (and here I’m talking about the ones in Congress) if they walked their talk. They rarely do.
Now, I have spoken to some conservatives with fantastic ideas. Funny thing is they aren’t typical rank and file Republicans and they don’t hold office. And somehow, they’re reps don’t seem to be getting their ideas and honestly and proactively bringing them to the table.

Where have you been???
Posted by: Billy Bob | Feb 22, 2010 9:09:43 AM
Following the gang of six and reading up on Olympia Snowe’s meetings and discussions with the President– and fact checking the tired canard. Republicans lie, you know, google “Republican stimulus hypocrisy”

“when you have people coming to the United States to take advantage of our cutting edge medical services (recently, a high ranking Canadian politican)you must admit that much of the current system is working”
This point is always pulled out neglecting a basic statistical principle covered in any entry level statistics course. In any to similar samples the larger sample is much more likely to include the extreme values of both combined. In other words while the average standard of care is about the same in Switzerland and the US the best care is much more likely to be here for no other reason than because the US is so much bigger, and for this care those that can afford it will come here. It does not mean the average level of care in the larger sample is better.

This healthcare package is needed so the american people have real honest health insurance. I admit that it isn’t perfect…but nothing really is!!!!!!!! So hopefully it passes and the government can get to the task of creating some jobs for the american people unless the republicans try to block that too!!!!! But surely they have got enough brain left…maybe…to help the jobs situation along!!!! But, I might be giving the repubicans to much credit!!!!!!

Here’s what I’m talking about with tort reform:
Even with the fine print still vague, Obama made clear that he is looking for a path that would change the remedies for medical mistakes — a priority for Republicans who have worked for decades to limit the liability of corporations and doctors — without alienating Democrats who are wary of restricting patients’ rights. It remains uncertain whether the president’s malpractice ideas will attract GOP supporters to his broad health-care goals or alienate some of his liberal allies.
The two examples the White House gave of state experiments are among a constellation of ideas that have been advocated by the Institute of Medicine, some members of Congress and a growing number of states to reduce the number of malpractice cases that reach the courts. These ideas differ fundamentally from the main way that Republicans want to revise the malpractice system: creating federal caps on the amount of money that juries and judges can award patients who win lawsuits.
In his speech…He alluded to a long and sharply partisan dispute over whether the medical malpractice system makes health care significantly more expensive. “I don’t believe malpractice reform is a silver bullet” to curb medical spending, the president said, “but I have talked to enough doctors to know that defensive medicine may be contributing to unnecessary costs.”
(WaPo)
Now, will Republicans finally shake an extended hand or will they ignore the opportunity to maintain their scorched earth vantage point?

Following the gang of six and reading up on Olympia Snowe’s meetings and discussions with the President– and fact checking the tired canard. Republicans lie, you know, google “Republican stimulus hypocrisy”
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Democrats frequently have problems with the truth themselves. And the media is no help. Whenever someone such as yourself refers me to stuff like above, it usually turns out to be by some left-leaning source which fails to tell the whole story.
Soundbites and comments are just that. Twistable and biased. I don’t rely on either the left- or the right-leaning media. I try my best to get hold of transcripts or video of actual speeches and comments instead of having someone else tell me what they said AND/OR meant.
I had the opportunity to listen to the National Governors Association’s discussions about health care yesterday. Very interesting and productive. They had a lot of best practices and suggestions to share and closed with a message to the president and Congress: They need to be included in health insurance reform. They are, after all, the ones struggling to keep their states from going bankrupt with the increasing cost of Medicaid.

This healthcare package is needed so the american people have real honest health insurance. I admit that it isn’t perfect…but nothing really is!!!!!!!! So hopefully it passes and the government can get to the task of creating some jobs for the american people unless the republicans try to block that too!!!!! But surely they have got enough brain left…maybe…to help the jobs situation along!!!! But, I might be giving the repubicans to much credit!!!!!! ———posted by redman

Has anyone ever thought that maybe we just can not afford the cost of this healthcare bill at this time? Yes, we need some reform – in several areas, not just insurance -but we [all Americans] haven’t the monies to allow for the cost of the bill now. There’s too much “funny stuff” in the accounting [bill cost extimate] to justify going ahead. Split the bill up and get the expenses down.

In his speech…He alluded to a long and sharply partisan dispute over whether the medical malpractice system makes health care significantly more expensive. “I don’t believe malpractice reform is a silver bullet” to curb medical spending, the president said, “but I have talked to enough doctors to know that defensive medicine may be contributing to unnecessary costs.” — posted by progressive mama
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The NGA’s discussions about health care costs that I listened to yesterday did include tort reform and malpractice.
Every governor that spoke about these issues were FOR tort reform. They are convinced that malpractice suits cause doctors and hospitals to practice defensively, performing far too many tests and procedures than medically necessary.
Two governors, (sorry can’t remember their names) said they have already implemented strict tort reform measures and have seen significant reductions in cost of care.
Tort reform works! The president apparently chooses to listen to lawyers and special interest groups who say differently.
If the federal government claims justification to take the aggressive, even hostile, actions against banks and health insurers, then I think they can do the same to reduce health care costs. But, since the president and many in Congress are/have been lawyers, maybe that’s why they won’t move aggressively in this issue.

When it is govt’s direct involvement in the system that created every problem facing America today why on earth would anyone want them to ‘fix’ anything unless you are absolutely crazy. The government causes inflation, they have caused health care inflation. They have caused every boom and bust since 1913 including the depression. They have caused the energy shortage, it is they that profit the most from oil. If you read enough and educate yourself and aren’t afraid of the truth you can trace every single crisis and problem in America directly to government involvement and interference.

Taken together, mandates, litigation, and abuse account for 27 percent of the increase in health care costs in this country, more than any other factor. Other lesser factors leading to health care inflation include new pharmaceuticals and medical devices (regulations?) (22 percent), rising hospital expenses (unions, bureaucracy?) (18 percent), general inflation (caused by the govt.) (18 percent), and increased consumer demand by a growing senior citizen population (15 percent).
The PricewaterhouseCoopers study also reveals how 15 percent of the current $67 billion increase in health spending during is directly attributable to laws passed by legislators.

JT,
The President’s proposal isn’t a “posting of the Senate Bill with potential fixes.”
The presidents proposal is a compromise between the House and Senate bills.
There is a difference.

This arrogant looney-tunes (BHO) just doesn’t get it…the American people don’t want this bill in any form…they want Congress to start over…so the DEMS just continue to make every possible attempt to cram this bill through…what the hell is wrong with their hearing..or perhaps its simply their inability to comprehend the will of the people?

They’ve looked down upon the American people with such arrogant conceit
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Oh sheesh, that arrogant conceit canard again– with no understanding of what it means to live in a representative democracy, or what it means to be elected on a given campaign promise, or no embarrassment in relation to blatant hypocrisy from those who voted for Republicans in the past? Paraphrasing Political Animal here, Americans didn’t want escalation in Iraq in 2007 and Republicans said, “Too bad.”
Americans didn’t want federal lawmakers to intervene in the Terri Schiavo case in 2005 or spend time working on an anti-gay constitutional amendment in 2006. Americans weren’t into the bank bailout in 2008, but that didn’t stop Mitch McConnell and other Republicans from voting for it.
And then there’s the fact that Americans support reforming the way Wall Street does business, passing a climate bill, health care reform with an insurance exchange including a public option, banning the ability of insurers to deny insurance to those with pre-existing conditions, and ending “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.” Are those who vote in obstruction to that “arrogant”?
Americans, at the very least, deserve an up down vote on health care reform– and issue which many Americans have cared about for many years.
Not allowing an up down vote is arrogant, imho.

Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:
“Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States “.
After my review of arguments from both sides everyone should agree with the following.
Nothing seems to have been accomplished to develop a program or means to reduce and control the run away costs of health care through out the health care industry.
I n order to have effective, efficient quality, affordable health care reform there should be one health care system for the entire nation, not two or more systems.
“Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States “.
When congress and other government employees have to pay the same costs as all other Americans the arguments will stop and we will have the reform we need. That will be real meaningful healthcare at every level of our society.
Additionally, every stakeholder in the health care industry from research, pharmaceuticals, hospitals, doctors and all other health care providers must participate and be active components of the national health care reform program.
Call it a Socialist Health Care Program, A government controlled health care initiative or big government wipe out of competition in the free market place. CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT.
The fact remains that the private sector health care industry collectively has uncontrolled, runaway costs that are totally not acceptable. There is no other option to solve the problem.
ROY

Passing health care reform is crucial to increasing the strength of our nation in several ways. How can small (or even large) businesses create jobs for our citizens if they have to pay outrageous sums for health insurance when companies can announce (gouge!) increases as large as 39% any old time they want? How can working families afford the insurance much less? So obviously health care reform is a necessary first step toward any job creation measures. How can we end tow wars constructively if military personnel cannot be offered the incentive of a well-deserved reward for risking their lives for America a decent jobs with quality health coverage and the same for their spouses and children?! Senator Feinstein’s idea is a great proposal. Bipartisanship is a wonderful dream, but Democrats have already compromised quite a bit. The responsibility for creating bipartisan trust is up to the Republicans. Their entire political vocabulary seems to include tax cuts for the rich, war, reckless deregulation of industries and financial markets, more tax cuts for the rich, hypocritical and jaded divisive social issues rhetoric, more war, and capitalizing on their won failure to securely protect our homeland by scaring the public constantly. Perhaps we as a nation must have partisan courage now by the Democrats in order to have the opportunity for true bipartisan governance in the future. Judging by the behavior of the Republican’s current crop of congressional “leaders” it seems to be the only way. Republicans are stuck in the 1980′s, but untold millions of Americans had higher paying jobs with health care that was muc cheaper then, ESPECIALLY even if adjusted for inflation, and the nation was at peace. If the Republicans were truly realistically patriotic they would insist on better, different leadership that intelligently puts country before politics. Our country is in desperate need of health care reform, more so than at any time in history. If the only way to accomplish this is through partisan, Democratic action then what a shame, but the shame falls on the Republicans, but the U.S.A., particularly the great working families of the middle class will be the winners. Let the Republicans have their say, deserved or not, but let our country have the health care system we deserve first and foremost. If the Republicans can’t handle this then it is they who will pay the political price in the not-so-long run, and then for some time to come. In closing I will simply say I think we progressives and Democrats have shown plenty of patience and restraint in the face of constant obstruction of such a vitally pressing national crisis issue.

“The bills that have been passed in the Senate and HOR have one glaring problem: they will bankrupt the country.”
Well, that’s one way of looking at it. The other way is, Congress has already pounded so many nails in the coffin of the American economy that what difference does one more nail make? The economy will collapse with or without this bill.
So, one way to look at it is that since the whole thrust of the govt has been to prop up the economy and ameliorate economic pain in the short term, knowing full well that in the long term they have destroyed any prospect of our nation ever being prosperous again, then I think there is a rationale for the health care bill on the basis of the philosophy “live it up today for tomorrow we die”.
On the negative side, however, since most of this new program doesn’t kick in for something like 4 years, our economy may very well no longer exist by then, in which case there won’t even be any short term benefits of this economic coffin nail.

The truth is that we will never have cost containment in health care without addressing the fundamental issue that drives up costs: the disconnect between consumers and prices. Because we have created a system – for good reasons – where most people get their insurance through their employer, most of the costs (70% – 90% depending on the consumer) are effectively hidden to the consumer. Naturally, the consumer makes rational choices based solely on health concerns, rather then cost. Providers – or “doctors” as they used to be known – pass on costs of treating patients who either pay less than cost (see Medicare), or cannot pay at all – to the other customers who pay full price and then some. They also pass on the costs of protecting themselves from litigation in a lawsuit-happy society, which are not insignificant, and the ever-rising costs of their education.
Insurance companies, which are corporations after all, then negotiate and make decisions about what care will be available, based on the prices. But the demand is therefore kept artificially high, which continues to drive prices up, which is then reflected in higher premiums paid by the consumer. It is a vicious circle.
The answer is not in price ceilings or in mandatory care rationing, neither of which are effective solutions (Economics 101 tells us these lead to shortages – and in a way, “death panels”) to rising costs. What we must do is find a way to incent consumers to strike an appropriate balance between the care they think they need, and the prices that are ultimately paid for it. And while neither side has an answer to that, at least conservatives are correct in calculating that doing nothing is at least better than doing something foolish.

Hey Regressive Mama, take a look at the Repubs Bill!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Live Pulse: Breaking news on the health care fight: Gibbs may need to read the White House website more closely February 22, 2010
During today’s press briefing, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said he hoped that Republicans would post their reform plans online.
“The president posted ideas of his on the White House website today. We hope Republicans will post their ideas either on their website, or we’d be happy to post them on ours, so that the American people could come to one location and find out the parameters of what will largely be discussed on Thursday,” Gibbs said.
Turns out the House Republicans’ plan has been online since October and already has its own link on the White House website.
The White House encourages readers to “read more about House and Senate ideas from both parties on their websites.” The link sends readers to a House GOP website that includes a one-page summary sheet and the legislative text of their proposals.

take a look at the Repubs Bill!!!!!!!!!!!!
which one?
The point is that its easy to come up with multiple ideas and plans. Its more difficult to align them. Would you like me to look at DeMint’s bill? Or Price’s? Or Ryan’s? Or the one mocked by the American Spectator? (phillip klein, 11.5.09) The latter would be the “house plan”.
Perhaps, you oughta read up. (I’ve actually read the plans and can tell you which ideas I’d use as starting points, but I’d bet money Republicans won’t negotiate in good faith. I’m familiar with Wyden Bennet too though its been awhile since I’ve gone over it). So…anyway… despite the distraction and the namecalling, I stand by what I said, namely that Republican ideas are spread across several pieces of legislation,and fall far short of the goal of insuring uninsured Americans. The Senate never even came up with an agreed upon plan and the lame caucus-backed House Republican proposal merely covered 3 million more Americans.

For an intelligent expression of the bottom line on this folly,
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… when it comes to Republican ideas, specifically, DeMints plan, see Salon’s “Jim DeMint’s amazing crazy health care plan”:
“Between 2005-2010, according to OpenSecrets.org, Senator DeMint received $226,000 from health professionals and another $209,000 from insurance companies. If something like DeMint’s plan ever became reality, those campaign contributions could be considered one of the greatest investments of all time. Because what DeMint is proposing here is a transfer of truly vast sums of money from the federal government straight to the HMO industry. Who needs to nationalize health care? Let’s just give them all our money.
And at no cost to the taxpayer! Or, as the press release puts it, “without adding a single dime to the deficit.”

Meanwhile, Think Progress reminds us why health reform and consumer protections are so important in a post today about a woman with cancer– and doing nothing is heartless:
“…women face especially high barriers to being approved for coverage by health insurers. The insurance industry has in the past refused to cover maternity care, disqualified women from coverage who’ve had a Caesarean-section pregnancy, and considered domestic abuse a pre-existing condition.
“It is worth noting that the United States is the only developed country without a universal, cradle-to-the-grave health care system. Nowhere else in the industrialized world would a woman have to turn to holding pasta fundraisers to get the money to pay for her chemotherapy. “

What the “blank” is Obama doing? He offers bipartisanship out of one side of his mouth, and then out of the other side of his mouth declares an even more aggressive health bill before even meeting with the other party.
And he sends out threats of a willingness to destroy all Senate bipartisanship by forcing the democrat-only bill through with a procedural trick (reconciliation).
The rule is for making funding fixes on already passed bills.
Instead of backing off and following the will of the people with a few simple bipartisan health care fixes at a time, Obama has proven he is indeed a total ideologue who has NO desire to compromise. Obama is ravenous to create 100 new government agencies to run every aspect of everyones health care.
He would lock the republicans out and give the finger to the American people.
2010 might just see the biggest sweep in electoral history. Obama has just destroyed the democratic party.

When the new 50% tax rate on “rich” people (read: small business), slams the economy into perpetual recession, and even that isn’t enough to cover new health care costs, they will do two things. Put huge taxes on the middle class, and start price controls on all medical procedures.
That means doctors will have to take big pay cuts – which will drive many doctors out of medicine. Why should they be the most educated and least paid professionals?
Hospitals will close due to lack of profitability.
Lines will get longer and longer.
The government will have to recruit sub-par students to go into medicine.

So Thursday we get to play “Whose Plan Sucks the Most?”
I want less of “Congress-and-its-bright-ideas” in my life, not more.

This approach by the White House doesn’t seem to be a bipartisan approach. Newt said the republicans should walk into that meeting and insist on equal time to present their plan to the people, and if they don’t get it they should walk out…..