Former Dem Governor Douglas Wilder: Democrats ‘Whistling by Their Graveyard’; Time for White House Political Shake-Up

……stormerF2..”we” who? Where do you think the huge Deficits came from? Just a “hint”….. the following was Not Paid for by the last administration…2 Wars unpaid for, Medicare Advantage Program, and the Huge Tax Breaks for the uppercrust 2%. Please tell me where have you been. Are you talking about the 787 billion bailout? That was asked for by the last administration…(on their way out the door, as if the Financial Collapse of our nation ‘just had happened”) splitted between the last adminsistration and the current one. If the stimilus is the reason for your “we” thinking….Americans know that “we” couldn’t afford to go into another “great depression”….so maybe “we” should’ve been yelling for the past 9 years. Oh, but I forgot, “we” were distracted by the “Supermen”, alias “terrorist”, but not fighting them…instead invading Iraq that has created part of the “spending” you’re talking about. So, I’m not with the “we” nothing, because I’m not that “partisan” to believe that “spending” in the last year has created our nation’s financial dilemna.

When Taiwan and Switzerland realized they had health care systems that were going nowhere in the 1990′s, they set up commissions to study the world’s systems and use the best ideas. That kept the politics to a minimum. But the U.S. Congress apparently wanted to get it’s piece of the pie and make sure it was taking care of the special interests, so it handled health care directly we got a Rube-Goldberg pair of bills that intelligent people realized did little to slow down spiraling health costs. I’m disgusted with both parties here.

“”"”"Are you talking about the 787 billion bailout? That was asked for by the last administration”"”"”"
Posted by: sara
That’s not what Obama told us! Obama wanted a larger stimulus after Bush passed TARP. BTW, Bush only released $350 Billion TARP and actually had Obama to agree to release the 2nd $350 Billion. The $787B was all Obama.

Good
lets the GOP win back the house- and even the Senate–what are their goals and aspirations? More of the same policies that drove the nations economy into a ditch?
Are more tax cuts to the rich and corporations going to help the vast majority of Americans?
The GOP has plans to cut medicare even further then the health care plan offered by the Senate Democrats.
Health care costs needs to be reformed and costs reduced- what does the GOP have for this?
Any gains the GOP makes this fall are likely to be a short term phenomenon-
Is the nation going to recover and prosper by the same policies that got us here?

I personally wouldn’t vote for a republican even if you held a gun to my head. it was a republican president that created the environment for our near economic collapse. So you weren’t happy with ALMOST destroying our economy, you want to give them a second chance to finish the job? No thanks.
The most prolific myth in our countrys history is that republicans are fiscally conservative – it’s not based in fact or reality. Check the facts folks. Who was the last republican president to balance the budget? I’ll give you a hint, many if not most of the posters probably weren’t even alive then.

The democrats car is now skidding along the highway, it has no wheels and it’s losing it’s engine. If they would go to the center of the road they may pickup some grease to skid a little easier.

No, it’s not tiresome. Obama inherited a $1.2 trillion deficit the moment he raised his hand to take the oath.
Most federal spending is mandated by law. For Bush’s last budget (09): Social Security ($662 bil.), Medicare $425b), Medicaid ($259), TARP ($247b), Other Mandatory Programs ($673b), Interest on Debt ($148b). Total: $2,414b.
Discretionary Programs: Defense ($697b), Other ($609b). Total: $1,307).
Great Recession cost around $400 billion in lost revenues, increased costs (unemployment, safety net stuff).
For 2010, the U.S. government collected $15.4% of GDP to pay for government, spent 27.7%. Most went out as payments to people.
Obama wants to reform healthcare to get the cost curve down. You say, “No!” Obama proposes a freeze on discretionary spending and you say, “No!” Obama proposes a panel with teeth to cut the budget, and again you say “No!” Obama proposes re instituting “Pay Go” and you scream, “No!”
The three presidents in U.S. history most responsible for increasing debt on their watch were: Ronald Reagan, Bush I and Bush II. Clinton CUT national debt. Bush I tried to cut the deficit and was turned out for it by your crowd. Every President of any stripe has cut debt as a % of GDP since WWII with the exception of those three. Reagan was full of hot air and his disciples continue to push the same poison.
TEMPORARY increased government spending in recessions/depressions is classic Keynesian economics and it works. Ask Herbert Hoover what happens when you do the opposite.
Obama put the cost of Afghanistan/Iraq on the budget. Bush hid it like a kid stuffing Playboys in the back of his closet to keep mom from finding them.
Who’s more responsible? The record is clear.

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it seems that the govt. has been reduced to being a tool for the corps to manipulate the people and country to no end where people are getting screwed either way and no matter its dem or gop.
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why blame the govt now when no jobs when it was previous admin.s that sent jobs overseas for the greed of profitability.
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Brian:
Thank you for the time and effort to spell out the deficit FACTS for those who want to know them. As for most Republicans I have met, they don’t know, for example, that our national debt was at $5 trillion when Bush took office (225 years’ worth of deficit spending) and was over $10 trillion when he left. He created more debt in his 8 years than the other 43 presidents before him, and yet not a single Republican I know ever objected.

Anoterh democrat speaks the truth.
But the democrats can’t seem to learn anything. They cater to their loony left wing like this fringe element really matters. It is the middle of America that matters. If the republicans can stop this lunatic administration than so be it. They will gain back a lot of their lost respect.

ome on ABC where is the story about climate change expert and head of the IPCC saying there hasn’t been any warming for 15 years!

Wilder seems to want to make the point that the Democrats are in denial, but meybe after he reads the comments here, he’ll come to the conclusion that it’s really the GOP that is in denial, in particular as regards their leaving the current administration such a mess to clean up.
Blowhards like Stanley are perfect symbols for the Republicans. He doesn’t bother to address one single point in any of the posts that he takes issue in, he just claims them to be false without offering any proof to the contrary. Like Glen Beck, he seems to be unaware that google can help one to fact check.
Stop blaming Bush for the current state of affairs? OK. So by that same yardstick, then we have no choice but to blame Bush for what actually happened while he was in office. He, and his administration have the blood of the dead on their hands for 9-11. Hey, if Obama is supposed to have owned the economy just months after taking office, then surely Duh-bya would have to take responsibility for 9-11. Remember, “Bin Laden determined to strike in US?” and all the other warnings ignored. Blood on your hands, mate and on the hands of every person that voted GOP. Wars under false pretences? Your bad, too. All the lives lost on both side….GOP’s fault. All the lives and property lost in New Orleans because of poor response? GOP, all the way baby.

I never realized – even as the bitter Democratic primary season was winding down – how much Hillary Clinton’s candidacy was done in by the far left. Now, we’re stuck with an inexperienced President who’s betting his -and our future – on those same forces. Bayh understood better than us that Obama has no plans to move to the middle.