Health Care Redux
By Jonathan Karl: It’s a gambit President Obama hopes is more like the Saints’ onside kick to start the second half than Peyton Manning’s 4th quarter interception. The President plans to convene a half-day meeting with Republicans and Democrats – with the CSPAN cameras rolling – to talk about the way forward on health care. It’s a bold move to revive health care reform, but also a risky one. Remember: The President predicted a Colts victory, but he was rooting for the Saints. The President announced the health care meeting during a Super Bowl pre-game interview with Katie Couric, giving his strongest post-Massachusetts indication that the battle over comprehensive health care reform is not over. “I want to come back,” the President said in a live interview with Katie Couric, “and have a large meeting — Republicans and Democrats — to go through, systematically, all the best ideas that are out there and move it forward.” The meeting will take place on February 25 across the street from the White House at Blair House, reports Jake Tapper. The White House says the President is “anxious” to see and debate Republican ideas, but, in a background statement on the meeting made it clear this is not about starting over: ”What the President will not do is let this moment slip away. He hopes to have Republican support in doing so – but he is going to move forward on health reform.” Privately, some Congressional Democrats want the moment to slip away so they focus on a higher priority: economic recovery. The renewed White House push injects new life into the health care effort, but also raises the prospects of another drawn-out health care debate just as Democrats are hoping to move the Congressional agenda back to jobs. Senate Democrats hoped to unveil the first in a series of jobs bills today, but the Washington blizzard has pushed that back a day.
Party of Probably Not? House Republican leader John Boehner says he is pleased the President “finally” seems interested in real bi-partisan talks, but: “The American people have overwhelmingly rejected both of the job-killing trillion-dollar government takeover of health care bills passed by the House and Senate,” Boehner said, suggesting that the “best way to start on real, bipartisan reform would be to scrap those bills and focus on the kind of step-by-step improvements that will lower health care costs and expand access.” Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell: “The fact is Senate Republicans held hundreds of town halls and met with their constituents across the country last year on the need for health care reform, outlining ideas for the step-by-step approach that Americans have asked for. And we know there are a number of issues with bipartisan support that we can start with when the 2,700-page bill is put on the shelf.” Palin-mania. It was quite a weekend for Fox News analyst Sarah Palin. Following her Saturday keynote at the Tea Party convention in Nashville, Palin did her first-ever Sunday show interview and declared it would be “absurd” for her not to consider running for President in 2012. “I would,” she answered when Chris Wallace of Fox News Sunday asked if she’d consider running. “I would if I believed that that is the right thing to do for our country and for the Palin family. Certainly, I would do so.” Palin also suggested it was okay for Rush Limbaugh to use the word “retard”, but not Rahm Emanuel. Palin’s crib sheet. The Huffington Post takes a closer look at the palm of Sarah Palin’s hand, where, during the tea-party convention in Nashville, she seems to have jotted down a few notes to help her during the q&a session. Lone Star Match-Up: Palin vs. Cheney? AP’s Michael Graczyk reports Sara Palin spent Super Bowl Sunday campaigning in Texas for Governor Rick Perry: ”Palin said Texas and Alaska had some ‘really sweet connections, … independent pioneer-spirited people and big wide open spaces.’ “‘A lot of us in our states proudly cling to our guns and religion,’ she told a cheering crowd. “Hutchison, asked about the Palin appearance, pointed to her own support from the likes of former Vice President Dick Cheney and former President George H.W. Bush, who she said would be campaigning for her. “‘I’m just running my campaign, and I’m very proud of my endorsements,’ she said.” Speaking of Cheney I will be interviewing the former Vice President next Sunday on ‘This Week.’ This exclusive interview will be Cheney’s first interview in 2010 and his first in nearly a yea Richard Clarke accuses Republicans of seeking political advantage by attacking President Obama on terrorism “often with total disregard for the facts.” “They are wrong on the facts and they are wrong morally to attempt to make political gain on the damage inflicted by terrorism,” Clarke writes in an op-ed in Sundays’ NY Daily News. “There may well be another successful terrorist attack in the U.S. someday soon. No system can stop all of the attempts all of the time; ask Israel. When and if that attack does come, let us hope the American people will reject any attempt to make it a partisan issue. It is not conduct worthy of real patriots.” Despite loud GOP complaints after the fact, White House counterterrorism advisor John Brennan says Republicans were in the loop on the decision to prosecute Christmas bomber Abdul Farouk Abdulmutallab. He said he briefed four Republican Congressional leaders on Christmas evening. “None of those individuals raised any concerns with me, at that point,” Brennan said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “They didn’t say, ‘Is he going into military custody? Is he going to be Mirandized?’ They were very appreciative of the information. We told them we’d keep them informed. And that’s what we did.” Politico’s Mike Allen and Eamon Javers: “The revelation could undermine Republican complaints about the decision to treat the Nigerian suspect, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, as a civilian criminal. “But Brennan’s comment provoked sharp rebukes from the Republicans who received the briefings, who all stressed that the conversation did not include a discussion of Miranda rights, though none claimed to have asked about that issue. “‘This was like a three- or four-minute phone call,’” Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-Mich.) told POLITICO on Sunday. Hoekstra, the top Republican on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, said, “‘At no point did he ever talk to me about legal strategies.’” Welcome to Washington, Senator Brown. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner tells Jake Tapper on This Week that Scott Brown is wrong about the stimulus. Toyota Troubles for Bushies? Rep. Darrell Issa, the top Republican on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform says he has “serious concerns” about whether the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration under Bush Administration was negligent in its handling of safety concerns at Toyota. He wants committee chairman Rep. Edolphus Towns to call Bush Administration officials, including former Secretaries of Transportation Norm Mineta and Mary Peters to testify on the issue: ” With unresolved complaints documenting incidents of unintended acceleration in Toyota model vehicles as early as 2003, I have serious concerns about the agency’s actions under the previous administration,” Issa writes in a letter to Towns today. “I agree it is important to hear from current administration officials to better understand how the government has responded to the current recalls however; the pattern of negligence extends beyond the tenure of those currently in positions of authority. ” Sad News for Illinois Political Reporters. Politico’s Alex Isenstadt reports that Scott Lee Cohen, the Democratic nominee for Lt. Governor of Illinois, is dropping out. That means you won’t be reading paragraphs like this anymore: “Cohen, a millionaire pawnbroker and cleaning supplies company executive who emerged the victor in last week’s primary, had been accused of holding a knife to the neck of his ex-girlfriend, a prostitute, in 2005. “It has also been revealed in recent days that Cohen had once been accused of abusing an ex-wife. Cohen has also acknowledged using steroids for a period of time.” Jonathan Martin’s favorite detail in this story: Cohen announced his decision to drop out at the Far North Side Bar in Chicago (during the Super Bowl halftime show). Superbowl halftimeTweet: @KevinMaddenDC next year’s 1/2 time show: The Doors. Just need some smelling salts and a space heater for Jim Morrison.
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Face it, Libs. You blew it with this Idiot and your Congress. Now we’re without a leader and broke. I just wanted to ask, though. If all this economic woe is W’s fault, does the meteoric economy of the Clinton years get to be the fault of Bush the 1st and Reagan? Mind you, I’m just asking questions.
Posted by: WhatChange? | February 8, 2010, 9:05 am 9:05 am
Nothing left to talk about. Start talking about jobs, or pack your bags.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | February 8, 2010, 9:20 am 9:20 am
Say NO to the Republicans idea of Health Care Reform —- TAKE ACTION AND TELL YOUR SENATOR NOT TO CO-SPONSOR THIS BILL
Senator McCain’s bill is called The Dietary Supplement Safety Act (DSSA). It would repeal key sections of the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA). DSHEA protects supplements if 1) they are food products that have been in the food supply and not chemically altered or 2) if they were sold as supplements prior to 1994, the year that DSHEA was passed. If a supplement fits one of these two descriptions, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) cannot arbitrarily ban it or reclassify it as a drug.
Sen. John McCain is introducing a horrific bill, the “Dietary Supplement Safety [sic] Act of 2010Åç (DSSA) designed to end your access to high potency supplements by giving the bloated, corrupt and dangerous FDA MORE power to destroy supplement access. This bill is absolutely NOT to be confused with DSHEA, the Dietary Supplements Health and Education Act (1994), which says nutrients are food and, as food, you can have them in any form and any amount you like. If we allow DSSA to pass, we will be living and dying under something very much like the European Food Supplements Directive’s anti-supplement restrictions, implementing Codex Alimentarius’ dietary supplements and nutritional restrictions, to the “T” – effective as close to immediately as the Fraud and Death Administration can manage it. Listen to the Dr. Rima Reports as Dr. Rima interviews Sarah Schones, MD, a German Immunologist practicing natural medicine in Germany: . Food Supplements are going the way of the dodo in the EU.
Posted by: Dave | February 8, 2010, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Obama can’t afford to take the same path he did with health care last year. He cannot fail to link reform with the economy and tell Americans in the strongest terms possible not what HC reform will do for them, but what would happen without it.
Posted by: matt | February 8, 2010, 9:29 am 9:29 am
The day we want to set aside politics and he sticks his god face on tv during the pre-game with Sayer. Ruined the game party
Posted by: Jim Rod | February 8, 2010, 9:45 am 9:45 am
Moves to make our country better:
DEM – “We passed Healthcare bill”
GOP – “That was not a transparent process”
DEM – “Let us all meet in full view of the people to debate the bill”
We are waiting for GOP move. Time to Man Up.
The keynote speech @ the Tea Party convention sounded more like Tea Party Storybook of Fantasies. We are waiting for actual policy suggestions based on the talking points (including those scribbled on the palm).
Speaking of policy, the GOP put out a document recommending privatization of Social Security. We hope that they’ll vote accordingly when the related bill comes up in the House.
Posted by: New Wave | February 8, 2010, 10:07 am 10:07 am
Jobs and Healthcare….goes hand in hand! Duh.
Posted by: sara | February 8, 2010, 10:09 am 10:09 am
Using healthcare and national security as “political” pawns….ABC where have you been?
Posted by: sara | February 8, 2010, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Actually Obama may be the best thing that has happened to America. He has caused us to think beyond the two parties that have vied for control but consistently trashed our ideals.
The TEA Party may or may not be the answer, but may cause the two parties to change.
What if the dems moved away from baby-killing and big government? What if reps really became conservative?
What if both parties began to serve the people for a change?
What if term limits stopped the seniority that controls the congress?
Posted by: Ed Taylor | February 8, 2010, 10:26 am 10:26 am
Let’s worry about jobs. Obama and your super majority congress couldn’t get it done in one year. Yea right, blame the republicans, we are not all moonbat obamatrons out here!
Posted by: jonny | February 8, 2010, 10:42 am 10:42 am
We are still waiting for the GOP to agree to openly debate their Health Care Reform ideas in front of everyone.
Or it is all talk? Time to Man Up !
Posted by: New Wave | February 8, 2010, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Ed Taylor, I agree with you. Right now neither Democrats or Republicans are fit to govern this country. Both parties need to quit the bickering, backstabbing and reelection and start doing the people’s business for a change!
Posted by: jas | February 8, 2010, 11:11 am 11:11 am
New wave the GOP has continuely tried to present health care bills and ideas to the floor of the congress and top Obama. The problem is’ the Dems do not want to hear them but yet they come out and cry the GOP has nothing. When is all the lieing going to stop from the dems?? When is Obama going to stop his face time on TV and listen to the Americn people? This form of health care is wrong. We are broke and will be even more broke if Pelosi and Reid do not stop.
Posted by: Jim Rod | February 8, 2010, 11:18 am 11:18 am
Should be a short meeting, all the Republicans need to make clear is that the process must be started over with an eye to doing cost containment first.
Posted by: Ron | February 8, 2010, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Jim Rod: The request is for the GOP to present their ideas openly to the American people and debate them. Rather than talking points made fror cable tv. What’s wrong with that?
Posted by: New Wave | February 8, 2010, 11:38 am 11:38 am
For those of you who are not paying attention…Republicans/conservatives have succeedded in creating “deficit hysteria’ just like they did in the Iraq war with the “WMD hysteria” – and how did that one work out for us. Any economist worth his or her salt will tell you (if you are willing to take the time to understand) that in times of economic contractions and slumps, the best thing you can do is to run large deficits. Now that is the “short term” part of it. Our problem right now is the “fear” created by the right about increasing the deficit more to create jobs. We have just gone through the worst econmic catastrophe since the Great Depression. We are extremely fortunate that we had the leadership we have so we did not sink into our second one. We have lost so many jobs in the auto manufacturing sector. Where did they gravitate to over the past decade? The construction industry. And what just took the biggest “dump” in employment with the housing debacle? The construction industry. IF we do not get this large segment of our 10% unemployed back to work, small businesses will not grow, community banks will not be able to lend (simply because of no demand) and our economy will continue to stagnate. I suggest that you tell the “deficit fear mongering conservatives and Republicans” to wake up to reality, instead of playing “political hysteria games”. When we get more people working, when small businesses start to grow again, the “long term deficit” will start to come down BUT ONLY if we also confront our biggest nemisis of health care costs. Without reform there, the math just doesn’t work. Now if we could just get the Republicans and conservatives to debate reality and quit playing political games.
Posted by: CND FOX | February 8, 2010, 11:48 am 11:48 am
Obama making jobs his number one priority lasted all of…30 seconds? This man is over the top with face time on T.V. He now realizes people will only watch him if he sneaks on when millions are already tuned in. How shameful!
Posted by: wheresmymoney | February 8, 2010, 11:55 am 11:55 am
There is not a single American who is totally adverse to providing a better form of health care coverage to it’s citizens.
However ther initial campaign to reform health care via HR3200, had very little to do with health care and everything to do with social control of the american people. It was a subterfuge, and a basis to radically transform our country and government into obamas vision of a socialist country.
Now obama is suddenly intrested in an open forum to salvage the idea/concept.
What will come out of any meaningful re-examination and implementation, will be what supports our way of live and addresses what is truly and justifiably
at issue. Not a political agenda.
Posted by: LWN | February 8, 2010, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
“What if the dems moved away from baby-killing and big government?”
You do understand that Bush (R) and his republican congress grew our government more than any other in history… right? So plz explain your accusation that Dem’s Favor Big Government and Repub’s fight it.
Also by “Baby-Killing” I assume you mean Abortion rights… which gives the woman the right to choose. It’s not a party of baby killers, its the party of keeping gov. out of a woman’s health care decision. Which supposedly is one of the big thrusts of the repub issues with Dem Healthcare reform… it “interferes” with the doctor/ patient relationship.
So you can’t have it both ways… Abortion bans and “freedom of choice” about your own health will not go together.
Posted by: DewyB | February 8, 2010, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
“It’s a bold move to revive health care reform, but also a risky one.” BOLD?!?! It is what he PROMISED to do when he was campaigning. If he had put a leash on Beavis and Butthead (ie, Reid and Pelosi – you can decide for yourself which is which) at the start of ‘health insurance reform’ and had an open, honest debate in front of the American People, things might have turned out differently. We might have seen some Republicans get on board. We might have gotten a bill that doesn’t consist of kickbacks and payouts to special interests. We might have gotten something, anything, other than ‘politics as usual.’
Posted by: I'm With Stupid | February 8, 2010, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
WhatChange wrote: “If all this economic woe is W’s fault, does the meteoric economy of the Clinton years get to be the fault of Bush the 1st and Reagan? Mind you, I’m just asking questions.”
Excellent point. I would point out the economy floundered under Reagan and unemployment was higher than now until he raised taxes, including higher taxes on Social Security. Then, in 1986 he raised corporate taxes $120B and cut $300B in loopholes. The economy went into recession under Bush I, who also raised taxes, and until Clinton became president.
Perhaps that tax support helped Clinton and the fact that Clinton reduced big government by 373,000 jobs while Reagan and Bush had expanded it surely helped balance the budget.
Also, when Clinton took over, he did not inherit GOP bills that mandated extra spending and tax cuts that did not expire into well into the 2010′s. That’s built $8 trillion into future deficits now!
Also, Reagan and Bush I did not leave our National Guard so short of equipment that, just before Bush II left office the Pentagon said we are less able to defend America than at any time in living memory. And they did not leave office with our roads and bridges $675,000,000,000 BEHIND in maintenance repairs. They did not leave us with 1/4th of our nation’s alarm sirens out of order. And – though Reagan tried – they did not leave Clinton with 20% cents of every tax dollar going to pay the interest on the national debt.
Posted by: The_Mick | February 8, 2010, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
There is simply nothing that is of any real value in what the Democrats have come up with. Mandated purchases (that apart from being unconstitutional) that cause the insurance you do have to be devalued and increasingly worthless. Attacking those that placed a priority on having good Health Care Insurance, a Race based tax, and a 2.5 trillion dollar bill. It might be worth it if it controlled the cost of Health Care It doesn’t. It is a fraud. Anything that is going to be labeled Health Care Reform
Has to start by controlling the cost of Health Care Procedures. Until that is the starting point tell Obama to shut up. i honestly can’t see this as anything except one more attempt by him to bully people. If he is willing to say We are scrapping the mess we made so far we are going to start at ground zero then his proposal makes sense until then it is one more hatchet job, by a pontificating media bully that wants us all to understand that he is smarter than anyone else
Posted by: rick1957 | February 8, 2010, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Some people just refuse to accept the will of the people.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | February 8, 2010, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Why should Republicans meet with Present Obama to discuss his ideas which failed?
If he’s gonna bring something new to the table, maybe there’s reason to meet.
But otherwise what’s the point?
I mean, do we really need any more discussions of why threats of massive fines and prison for the uninsured is a bad idea?
Do we really need to AGAIN consider implementing a ‘public option’ which CBO says will have premiums as high OR HIGHER than private plans?
Do we need to AGAIN discuss the fact that Americans don’t want to be forced to pay for convenience abortions?
Is there any reason to discuss any further an unconstitutional mandate to buy health insurance?
Is there a reason to waste time discussing a tax on health insurance benefits, or the reason that ordinary Americans would be furious if they had to pay it and the special interests (unions) were exempted from it?
Posted by: Joe White | February 8, 2010, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Why is Cheney giving an interview and why is ABC allowing it. All he wants to do is bash Obama and I guess ABC thinks it is ok. Chenney spent years hiding out from everyone and now he wants to talk. He even faked hurting his back at the swearing in of Obama. You know Cheney was not lifting any boxes–he has people for that. He hates Obama because he remembers when black people had to come to his back door. He is tormented and obsessed by a Black man in the white house. It goes against EVERYTHING HE HAS EVER BELIEVED (which were all lies). HE IS A RACIST AND WILL NEVER SAY SHOW RESPECT TO OBAMA.
Posted by: lowes4321 | February 8, 2010, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
The spend spend spend party currently in control and up to their necks in mission impossibles should listen to the people. The “tea party” party is not the Republican Party and certainly not the Democratic party. They are the independents that in spite of all the challenges and difficulties the government throws their way, manage to pay their bills and taxes, support their families, defend their country and still survive. They also determine the outcome of elections. Go ahead and look down your noses at the people who really are the glue that holds this country together. Treat them as if they don’t know what’s best for themselves. As average as they may be they do have common sense. They will vote you out of office. They are the honest, peaceloving, mostly god fearing, rational people who pay your salaries. They are “on” to your BS and deceptive rhetoric and will find leaders who will serve this country instead of the special interests of party politics.
Posted by: gollywiggle | February 8, 2010, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Why is Cheney giving an interview and why is ABC allowing it. All he wants to do is bash Obama and I guess ABC thinks it is ok. Posted by IOWES4321
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It is called freedom of speech, and we still have it in this country. I didn’t want Obama on last night before the Super Bowl, but there he was. We were having a party and I chose NOT TO LISTEN. You can do the same with Cheney.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | February 8, 2010, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
When I was a doctor on the spinal cord injury service one patient who was made a quadriplegic by a drunk driver with no insurance. The patient had non-insured motorist coverage. After two months of not receiving his benefits I suggested that he might have to sue his insurance company. His comment to me me was, “That would be like suing yourself!” Perhaps this misunderstanding of insurance companies relates to the present problem.
Posted by: Barry Silberg | February 8, 2010, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
The next election is only nine months away. Most of the Dem. lawmakers due for reelection are in trouble back in their own home state. Without the votes from Republicans, the Dem. may not have enough votes in the House and the Senate to pass the H.C. reform bill Obama wanted.
Posted by: austin | February 8, 2010, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
First obama insults the intelligence of the voters, by stating in the SOFU speech that Americans became disgruntled with the Healthcare bill once they had time to read it and realize what was in it or soemthing to that effect.
Now he wants to convene a “open bipartisan debate once the democratic leadership presents the “BILL” aleady blessed by her royal highness Queen Nancy! This is not bipartisanship, not democracy but Communist country shove down your throat policits we thought OBAMA would change. Nope, more of the same old bitter partisan politics.
We do not like this healtcare bill and do not want it. Start over the voters have said time and time again this past year.
Posted by: scott jeffries | February 8, 2010, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
DewyB wrote:
“its the party of keeping gov. out of a woman’s health care decision”
By putting government in charge of all health care.
yeah right
Posted by: Joe White | February 8, 2010, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm