The Republicans shouldn’t show up for this farce.Plouffe has given Obama his marching orders and he doesn’t care what the majority of Americans want.At least Plouffe’s wife’s lobbying firm will make out on this bilking of our tax money.
“FINALLY WE GONNA GET SOMETHING”
—————
Finally some truth in advertising. To some people it’s all about “getting something” from your fellow citizen. Just like the founding fathers intended. We’ve come a long way, haven’t we?
“Senate Republicans have forced votes to stave off filibusters to an unprecedented degree.”
Belligerent arrogance. If voters really knew what was going on Republicans would never get back in office.
The President is too good to even consider the Republicans at this point – after their obstructionism and belligerence.
Dump them.
Thank God the new fellow Scott Brown seems to actually have a brain – dangerous ground for a Republican.
Posted by: tierra | February 22, 2010, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Tell us, tierra — what’s REALLY going on?
Posted by: Chiara | Feb 22, 2010 11:12:27 PM
____________________________________
“Senate Republicans have forced votes to stave off filibusters to an unprecedented degree.”
Intentionally using disruptive and belligerent tactics to try to obstruct the government. Arrogance and obstructionism.
The Republican party slogan. Get Re-elected First. Country Second.
Dump them.
Thank God the new fellow Scott Brown seems to actually have a brain – maybe even a conscience – dangerous ground for a Republican.
Posted by: tierra | February 22, 2010, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Those who weep and mourn in this passage are the kings and merchants of the earth (Rv 18:9-11).
The kings of the earth are pastors who belong to the spiritual nation of Babylon. The merchants of the earth are evangelists who belong to the pastors of Babylon. The prostitute of Babylon rules over the beast with the seven heads and ten horns (Rv 17:3). The seven heads of this beast represent seven hills, which are also seven king
Republicans can pretend that they will go along with Obamacare and vote the actual legilation down in the House and the Senate.
That way they dont look bad in this dog and pony show and do what politicians do all the time. Lie.
If they fight White House on their turf, they will loose. Deception is the only annswer. Any how our Chief Deceptor has been doing it from day one.
Posted by: calif Guy | February 22, 2010, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
So what’s the point of the “legislative Kumbaya” moment that is will be STAGED on Thursday, if they are already planning to ram it through via “reconciliation?”
Posted by: Charlie | February 22, 2010, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Wow, Tierra and I actually agree on something: Republican Scott Brown! Yes, he certainly brings a brain and a conscience to Congress, but the danger is how much it puts this failed presidency and Pelosi-Reid’s Worst-Run-Congress-Ever into glaring focus.
I can’t turn away, it’s like watching an accident in slow motion, this tragic wreckage of what was once my party, Democrats, destroyed by excelling in the very same corrupt croneyism, arrogance and petty partisanship they claim to fight.
Thursday will be another wasted day like all the rest this last year: in place of governing it will be yet another campaign day, filled with massive misinformation by our Ruler and his henchpersons.
Good line out of an Iowa blog comments tonight: “Obama is failing because he thinks we need to be herded not heard.”
Posted by: Carol | February 22, 2010, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Wow, Tierra and I actually agree on something: Republican Scott Brown! Yes, he certainly brings a brain and a conscience to Congress, but the danger is how much it puts this failed presidency and Pelosi-Reid’s Worst-Run-Congress-Ever into glaring focus.
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Not at all. Already Brown has been smart enough to vote for a smart bill – the job creation bill – where virtually all the party-line Republicans sat on their thumbs, pouted and voted ‘no’.
Posted by: tierra | February 23, 2010, 12:03 am 12:03 am
How’s that Brown-y Bag-y thing working for ya ?
Posted by: George | February 23, 2010, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Brown’s trans-partisan vote is a tonic for Congress, I love it. But before Democrats chide another party for group-think, they better look in the mirror.
If Democrats in Congress are “smart” they will take a cue from Brown themselves, and start opposign their own failing leadership.
Posted by: Carol | February 23, 2010, 1:05 am 1:05 am
The prostitute of Babylon,.. beast with the seven heads and ten horns
(Rv 17:3 )Posted by: Shinchonji
are these new music bands from Seattle, ?
Posted by: XXX | February 23, 2010, 1:10 am 1:10 am
If Democrats in Congress are “smart” they will take a cue from Brown themselves, and start opposign their own failing leadership.
Posted by: Carol | Feb 23, 2010 1:05:54 AM
_____________________________________
What ‘failing leadership’? The only failures I see are the Republicans sitting on their thumbs, pouting and voting ‘no’ to everything – because that’s what their failed leaders told them would get them re-elected.
Posted by: tierra | February 23, 2010, 1:25 am 1:25 am
So what’s the point of the “legislative Kumbaya” moment
Posted by: Charlie
the point is to hear all of the wonderful plans and policies republicans have, and how they’re ready to make a difference to all americans as they’ve been so successful and done so much for us all since 2oo1.
Posted by: XXX | February 23, 2010, 2:54 am 2:54 am
I don’t see why the Democrats won’t fully endorse and vote for their President’s bill. Bipartisan doesn’t mean .. share the blame. Those who wouldn’t support civil rights and medicare ended up on the wrong side of the fence.. why not hang the non-believers out to dry. The reason.. the Democrats don’t feel good about this health care bill either.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | February 23, 2010, 6:05 am 6:05 am
More like flailing leadership.. throw your weight around until you are worn out, then ask your opponents to join in the conga line..and sing the banana boat song.. everyone feels good. This bill is watered down enough that everyone gets something.. it’s not about healthcare anymore.. it’s about empty victories and face saving and pac pleasing.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | February 23, 2010, 6:15 am 6:15 am
“THANK YOU MR PRESIDENT! FINALLY WE GONNA GET SOMETHING WITH OR WTHOUT THE party of NO!” – Trueposition
Oh for the love of what’s good, please stop spitting out stupid spin soundbites.
It’s common knowledge that it takes both a
republicaN
and a
demOcrat
to say and spell NO!
Posted by: Noz | February 23, 2010, 11:52 am 11:52 am
The Democratic bill:
Buy insurance or face jail time.
yeah, great solution
Posted by: Joe White | February 23, 2010, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
The Democratic bill:
Posted by: Joe White
The Republican bill, wait…….
there isn’t one
it’s not about healthcare anymore.. it’s about empty victories and face saving and pac pleasing.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | Feb 23, 2010 6:15:17 AM
_________________________________
You’ve read it?
Posted by: tierra | February 23, 2010, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Why won’t the Dem’s include tort reform in the health care reform — or do the trial lawyers have the Democrats in their pocket?
And why won’t the Dem’s allow insurance to be sold across state lines? Isn’t this what competition is about?
Why won’t the Dem’s include tort reform in the health care reform — or do the trial lawyers have the Democrats in their pocket?
And why won’t the Dem’s allow insurance to be sold across state lines? Isn’t this what competition is about?
Posted by: maryellen | Feb 23, 2010 3:00:59 PM
=====================================
In other words, “why dont the Democrats destroy victims rights, and why dont the Democrats allow the worst state regulations become the national standard?”
Eighty percent of malpractice claims involve significant disability or death.
Most people injured by medical malpractice do not bring legal claims.
Even efforts to attack the liability system have helped, however. They inspired research that has documented the surprising extent of preventable injuries in hospitals.
Defensive medicine is, like defensive driving, good practice.
The research shows, overwhelmingly, that the real problem is too much malpractice, not too many malpractice lawsuits.
“Most people injured by medical malpractice do not bring legal claims.” – Flash Override
Thank God for that!
The real reason for this is that there is hardly any true medical malpractice out there.
Real Medical Malpractice requires negligence and sloppy work.
Trial Lawyers define Medical Malpractice as any outcome that doesn’t meet expectations.
The vast vast majority of doctors are extremely well trained, exceedingly competent and their patient’s well being is their number one priority.
“The research shows, overwhelmingly, that the real problem is too much malpractice, not too many malpractice lawsuits.”
You have that backwards bunkie.
Dear Flash, you need to apply some more brain cells and take a better look at what is really going on.
Posted by: Noz | February 24, 2010, 10:50 am 10:50 am
The real reason for this is that there is hardly any true medical malpractice out there.
____________________________________
“hardly any” – there’s a good tight definition for you. You must have done a rigorous study to come up with that.
Posted by: tierra | February 24, 2010, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
“”hardly any” – there’s a good tight definition for you.” – tierra
Fair enough tierra, how about this instead.
True Medical Malpractice is far far more rare than the media would have you believe.
The Republicans shouldn’t show up for this farce.Plouffe has given Obama his marching orders and he doesn’t care what the majority of Americans want.At least Plouffe’s wife’s lobbying firm will make out on this bilking of our tax money.
Posted by: bobmac | February 22, 2010, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
THANK YOU MR PRESIDENT! FINALLY WE GONNA GET SOMETHING WITH OR WTHOUT THE party of NO!
Posted by: Trueposition | February 22, 2010, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
“FINALLY WE GONNA GET SOMETHING”
—————
Finally some truth in advertising. To some people it’s all about “getting something” from your fellow citizen. Just like the founding fathers intended. We’ve come a long way, haven’t we?
Posted by: Woody | February 22, 2010, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
“Senate Republicans have forced votes to stave off filibusters to an unprecedented degree.”
Belligerent arrogance. If voters really knew what was going on Republicans would never get back in office.
The President is too good to even consider the Republicans at this point – after their obstructionism and belligerence.
Dump them.
Thank God the new fellow Scott Brown seems to actually have a brain – dangerous ground for a Republican.
Posted by: tierra | February 22, 2010, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Tell us, tierra — what’s REALLY going on?
Posted by: Chiara | February 22, 2010, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
Tell us, tierra — what’s REALLY going on?
Posted by: Chiara | Feb 22, 2010 11:12:27 PM
____________________________________
“Senate Republicans have forced votes to stave off filibusters to an unprecedented degree.”
Intentionally using disruptive and belligerent tactics to try to obstruct the government. Arrogance and obstructionism.
The Republican party slogan. Get Re-elected First. Country Second.
Dump them.
Thank God the new fellow Scott Brown seems to actually have a brain – maybe even a conscience – dangerous ground for a Republican.
Posted by: tierra | February 22, 2010, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Those who weep and mourn in this passage are the kings and merchants of the earth (Rv 18:9-11).
The kings of the earth are pastors who belong to the spiritual nation of Babylon. The merchants of the earth are evangelists who belong to the pastors of Babylon. The prostitute of Babylon rules over the beast with the seven heads and ten horns (Rv 17:3). The seven heads of this beast represent seven hills, which are also seven king
Posted by: Shinchonji | February 22, 2010, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
Republicans can pretend that they will go along with Obamacare and vote the actual legilation down in the House and the Senate.
That way they dont look bad in this dog and pony show and do what politicians do all the time. Lie.
If they fight White House on their turf, they will loose. Deception is the only annswer. Any how our Chief Deceptor has been doing it from day one.
Posted by: calif Guy | February 22, 2010, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
So what’s the point of the “legislative Kumbaya” moment that is will be STAGED on Thursday, if they are already planning to ram it through via “reconciliation?”
Posted by: Charlie | February 22, 2010, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Wow, Tierra and I actually agree on something: Republican Scott Brown! Yes, he certainly brings a brain and a conscience to Congress, but the danger is how much it puts this failed presidency and Pelosi-Reid’s Worst-Run-Congress-Ever into glaring focus.
I can’t turn away, it’s like watching an accident in slow motion, this tragic wreckage of what was once my party, Democrats, destroyed by excelling in the very same corrupt croneyism, arrogance and petty partisanship they claim to fight.
Thursday will be another wasted day like all the rest this last year: in place of governing it will be yet another campaign day, filled with massive misinformation by our Ruler and his henchpersons.
Good line out of an Iowa blog comments tonight: “Obama is failing because he thinks we need to be herded not heard.”
Posted by: Carol | February 22, 2010, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Wow, Tierra and I actually agree on something: Republican Scott Brown! Yes, he certainly brings a brain and a conscience to Congress, but the danger is how much it puts this failed presidency and Pelosi-Reid’s Worst-Run-Congress-Ever into glaring focus.
_____________________________________
Not at all. Already Brown has been smart enough to vote for a smart bill – the job creation bill – where virtually all the party-line Republicans sat on their thumbs, pouted and voted ‘no’.
Posted by: tierra | February 23, 2010, 12:03 am 12:03 am
How’s that Brown-y Bag-y thing working for ya ?
Posted by: George | February 23, 2010, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Brown’s trans-partisan vote is a tonic for Congress, I love it. But before Democrats chide another party for group-think, they better look in the mirror.
If Democrats in Congress are “smart” they will take a cue from Brown themselves, and start opposign their own failing leadership.
Posted by: Carol | February 23, 2010, 1:05 am 1:05 am
The prostitute of Babylon,.. beast with the seven heads and ten horns
(Rv 17:3 )Posted by: Shinchonji
are these new music bands from Seattle, ?
Posted by: XXX | February 23, 2010, 1:10 am 1:10 am
If Democrats in Congress are “smart” they will take a cue from Brown themselves, and start opposign their own failing leadership.
Posted by: Carol | Feb 23, 2010 1:05:54 AM
_____________________________________
What ‘failing leadership’? The only failures I see are the Republicans sitting on their thumbs, pouting and voting ‘no’ to everything – because that’s what their failed leaders told them would get them re-elected.
Posted by: tierra | February 23, 2010, 1:25 am 1:25 am
So what’s the point of the “legislative Kumbaya” moment
Posted by: Charlie
the point is to hear all of the wonderful plans and policies republicans have, and how they’re ready to make a difference to all americans as they’ve been so successful and done so much for us all since 2oo1.
Posted by: XXX | February 23, 2010, 2:54 am 2:54 am
I don’t see why the Democrats won’t fully endorse and vote for their President’s bill. Bipartisan doesn’t mean .. share the blame. Those who wouldn’t support civil rights and medicare ended up on the wrong side of the fence.. why not hang the non-believers out to dry. The reason.. the Democrats don’t feel good about this health care bill either.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | February 23, 2010, 6:05 am 6:05 am
More like flailing leadership.. throw your weight around until you are worn out, then ask your opponents to join in the conga line..and sing the banana boat song.. everyone feels good. This bill is watered down enough that everyone gets something.. it’s not about healthcare anymore.. it’s about empty victories and face saving and pac pleasing.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | February 23, 2010, 6:15 am 6:15 am
“THANK YOU MR PRESIDENT! FINALLY WE GONNA GET SOMETHING WITH OR WTHOUT THE party of NO!” – Trueposition
Oh for the love of what’s good, please stop spitting out stupid spin soundbites.
It’s common knowledge that it takes both a
republicaN
and a
demOcrat
to say and spell NO!
Posted by: Noz | February 23, 2010, 11:52 am 11:52 am
The Democratic bill:
Buy insurance or face jail time.
yeah, great solution
Posted by: Joe White | February 23, 2010, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
The Democratic bill:
Posted by: Joe White
The Republican bill, wait…….
there isn’t one
Posted by: XXX | February 23, 2010, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
it’s not about healthcare anymore.. it’s about empty victories and face saving and pac pleasing.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | Feb 23, 2010 6:15:17 AM
_________________________________
You’ve read it?
Posted by: tierra | February 23, 2010, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
Why won’t the Dem’s include tort reform in the health care reform — or do the trial lawyers have the Democrats in their pocket?
And why won’t the Dem’s allow insurance to be sold across state lines? Isn’t this what competition is about?
Posted by: maryellen | February 23, 2010, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
Why won’t the Dem’s include tort reform in the health care reform — or do the trial lawyers have the Democrats in their pocket?
And why won’t the Dem’s allow insurance to be sold across state lines? Isn’t this what competition is about?
Posted by: maryellen | Feb 23, 2010 3:00:59 PM
=====================================
In other words, “why dont the Democrats destroy victims rights, and why dont the Democrats allow the worst state regulations become the national standard?”
Posted by: Flash Override | February 23, 2010, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Eighty percent of malpractice claims involve significant disability or death.
Most people injured by medical malpractice do not bring legal claims.
Even efforts to attack the liability system have helped, however. They inspired research that has documented the surprising extent of preventable injuries in hospitals.
Defensive medicine is, like defensive driving, good practice.
The research shows, overwhelmingly, that the real problem is too much malpractice, not too many malpractice lawsuits.
Posted by: Flash Override | February 23, 2010, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
“Most people injured by medical malpractice do not bring legal claims.” – Flash Override
Thank God for that!
The real reason for this is that there is hardly any true medical malpractice out there.
Real Medical Malpractice requires negligence and sloppy work.
Trial Lawyers define Medical Malpractice as any outcome that doesn’t meet expectations.
The vast vast majority of doctors are extremely well trained, exceedingly competent and their patient’s well being is their number one priority.
“The research shows, overwhelmingly, that the real problem is too much malpractice, not too many malpractice lawsuits.”
You have that backwards bunkie.
Dear Flash, you need to apply some more brain cells and take a better look at what is really going on.
Posted by: Noz | February 24, 2010, 10:50 am 10:50 am
The real reason for this is that there is hardly any true medical malpractice out there.
____________________________________
“hardly any” – there’s a good tight definition for you. You must have done a rigorous study to come up with that.
Posted by: tierra | February 24, 2010, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
“”hardly any” – there’s a good tight definition for you.” – tierra
Fair enough tierra, how about this instead.
True Medical Malpractice is far far more rare than the media would have you believe.
Posted by: Noz | February 24, 2010, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm