Obama Administration Secured Help of Abdulmuttalab’s Family to Get Him to Share Intelligence
Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller report:
The family of the failed Christmas Day bomber, Umar Farouq Abdulmuttalab, played a pivotal role in getting their son to start cooperating with federal authorities in sharing information about Al Qaeda, a senior administration official said Tuesday evening.
Abdulmuttalab has been cooperating with authorities and sharing intelligence since last Thursday, another administration official told ABC News.
The family was “instrumental in gaining Mr. Abdulmuttalab’s cooperation," said the senior administration official. The information Abdulmuttalab is sharing has been described by other officials as fresh and actionable.
“It has been very successful," the official said, "as far as gaining his cooperation that will allow us then to follow up on that information." He said the intelligence gained "has been disseminated throughout the intelligence community."
Into Africa
After days of being briefed on information about the case, two “experienced counterterrorism agents” from the FBI flew to Lagos, Nigeria on January 1, the official said.
Once in Nigeria, the agents met with officials of the US State Department, CIA officers, and others in the "country team."
The agents began a “thorough and comprehensive” background investigation of Abdulmuttalab, contacting his family, friends and associates and conducting thorough background interviews "to gain understanding of the subject.”
The two agents identified those family members who “directly supported gaining Umar Farouq’s cooperation and disagreed with his effort to murder innocent civilians.”
The agents and key family members arrived in back in the US on January 17th. The family members met with officials from the Justice Department and the FBI to plan a way forward.
“One of the principal reasons why his family came back is because they had complete trust in the US system of justice and believed that Umar Farouq would be treated fairly and appropriately," the senior official said. "And that they would be as well.”
The FBI and Abdulmuttalab's family approached the subject and “gained his cooperation. He has been cooperating for days," the official said.
Criticism "Frustrated The Hell Out of Me"
Abdulmuttalab was talking to FBI agents on Saturday, at the same time Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, ranking Republican on the Senate Homeland Security Committee, issued the Republican response to the president's weekly address, decrying Abdulmuttalab's presence in the criminal justice system.
Collins is just one of many critics questioning why Abdulmuttalab was read his Miranda rights under the criminal justice system instead of being interrogated under military rules.
“There is a reason why these things are done the way they are done and believe me it frustrated the hell out of me to listen to a lot of the comments being made that were criticizing this process," the official said. "But the premium that this White House – that this president puts on these operations – is to make sure that we do everything possible to protect the American people.”
The official said "people with no experience and apparently less knowledge about the case and the issues involved have made it a cause célèbre . As though there were some type of strange practice or action that took place here. When it’s consistent with all the practices of the previous administration.”
Those who had access to Abdulmuttalab concluded that "putting him in front of somebody with a military uniform would have made him even more opposed to any type of cooperation," the official said. "The way to get to him is to use family members who are going to be supportive of what we’re trying to do”
The FBI agents involved in making the decisions "did it exactly the way they were trained to do, the way past practice has occurred without exception," the official said. "There were a lot of politicians who were speaking out who had not one lick of counterterrorism experience who were second-guessing the professionals who have engaged in these issues, very successfully and in a very dedicated fashion over the years. And to have a how-many-mile screwdriver from here to Detroit try to micromanage the process, I find it quite frankly appalling.”
The senior administration official expressed frustration that news of Abdulmuttalab's cooperation was revealed to the public today.
In congressional testimony, the director of National Intelligence, Admiral Dennis Blair (ret.), said of Abdulmuttalab, "we got good intelligence. We're getting more."
FBI director Robert Mueller said as much as well.
Consistent with Bush Practices
The Obama administration is “confident” that Abdulmuttalab will continue to cooperate, the official said, "and the information will be leveraged to the fullest extent to protect this country….As in prior cases once an individual is on board we anticipate continuing to gain intelligence of value that can be shared with the intelligence community, foreign partners and can be used to disrupt other attacks.”
The team supporting his interviews includes: the CIA, other members of the intelligence community, and involved FBI expert behavioral analysts. The official would not divulge who is questioning Abdulmuttalab, which members of the family were involved, whether any family members are still in the US, and whether Abdulmuttalab's cooperation is part of a plea deal.
The president has been kept “fully apprised” of this situation and briefed on an “ongoing basis.” Members of Congress were briefed about the information-sharing on Monday.
The Bush administration used the criminal justice system to convict more than 300 terrorists, the official noted, adding that accused shoe-bomber Richard Reid was Mirandized within 5 minutes.
“When Flight 2523 landed in Detroit the men and women in the FBI, the Department of Justice, did precisely what they were trained to do, what their policies require then to do and what the nation expects them to do," the official said. “The FBI’s current Miranda policy – adopted by the prior administration — provided explicitly that within the United States Miranda warnings are required to be given prior to interviews. The initial questioning of Abdulmuttalab conducted without Miranda warni
ngs under a public safety exception that has been recognized by the courts.”
The subsequent questioning was conducted with Miranda warnings, the official said. “Providing Miranda warnings does not prevent us from obtaining intelligence from him…There is in fact no court approved system currently in place in which suspected terrorist captures in the United States can be detained and held without access to an attorney.”
The official said that "there has been a fair process that has been followed, and in the past five weeks or so every day we have had the opportunity to evaluate and revaluate the case and to determine whether or not the course we were on were on one was the right one. And we determined that that was the case. And in consultation with the FBI, and the assessment was the best way to get Mr. Abdulmuttalab to talk was working with his family.”
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Five weeks after trying to blow three hundred people up this guy starts talking.Holder should be fired.Everything Obama and Holder have done has protected terrorists while putting US citizens at risk.
Posted by: bobmac | February 2, 2010, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
surprise? This whole deal seems pretty odd. Ignoring the details (so-called “well dressed man” helping some guy get on the flight without his having a Passport or USVisa, etc). And another guy supposedly filming the inflight antics. And the detector dogs running around afterwards. And the another guy taken away. It all seems pretty weird, like they were training. anti-T taskforces and it got out of hand and now its coverup because the test-opt showed how weak security was. Hopefully I won’t be targetted by mentioning the obvious
Posted by: Ed | February 2, 2010, 10:06 pm 10:06 pm
CIA are fans of torture, FBI likes a more engaging approach.
This “kid” will give up everybody if he’s handled right. The torture nonsense is old school an ultimately puts us at greater risk. It doesn’t mean you are “protecting” terrorists if you end up with more valuable information.
Posted by: MarkJames | February 2, 2010, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Replace the words “official” or “senior official” in this story with Holder or Obama. Propaganda at its best!
Posted by: wheresmymoney | February 2, 2010, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
I’m glad they turned it around.
Posted by: Chiara | February 2, 2010, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
Five weeks after trying to blow three hundred people up this guy starts talking.Holder should be fired.Everything Obama and Holder have done has protected terrorists while putting US citizens at risk.
So you must be suggesting that waterboarding him 183 times in one month and ditching the US Constitution would be much more effective in protecting US citizens. Idiot.
Posted by: Rick | February 2, 2010, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
They got the information from the young man with the help of his family, which gains more supported for the team then to put him in a room and beat him to death, the information recieve was probably more the truth they he would have gotten if they would have beat him. Plus they won the respect of the family who will probably be able to help find who recruited him and find them, which could lead to some other cells in Africa.
Posted by: Maudie | February 2, 2010, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Now if Obama and Holder can get the
families of all the detained combatants
to come forward and instruct them to
“cooperate with the authorities”,
maybe this “War on Terror” will be
gone with the wind. Then, again, maybe
not. Obama keeps “trying and trying”.
Kinda like your 2 year old on the potty.
Posted by: Sir Toby Belch | February 2, 2010, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Obama keeps warning our enemies the
equivalent of “If you believe we are
soft on terror and weak in our resolve,
you have another thing coming”
WHAT THE HELL IS THAT ‘OTHER THING
COMING’? …..a hissy fit?
Posted by: Sir Toby Belch | February 2, 2010, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Bobmac, this guy has been talking for weeks. Try to keep up with the adults here.
Posted by: lol | February 2, 2010, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Using smart investigative techniques to get the truth out of a detainee… what a concept! Sure beats the Bush-era fiasco of torturing them for false info and then releasing them to terrorize again.
Posted by: Ron | February 2, 2010, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Obama keeps warning our enemies the
equivalent of “If you believe we are
soft on terror and weak in our resolve,
you have another thing coming”
Posted by: Sir Toby Belch | Feb 2, 2010 11:00:34 PM
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We already saw the “Bush” effect and the Republican mastery of terrorists and the enemy.
Iran developed a secret nuclear facility of Bush’s watch.
North Korea tested its first nuclear weapon on Bush’s watch.
Bin Laden and al Qaeda escaped in Afghanistan on Bush’s shift.
Twenty per cent of the detainees Bush released have returned to terrorism.
So much for the stellar record of the Republican presidency.
Posted by: tierra | February 2, 2010, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Gee, what a surprise – the professionals in our justice system know how to get information from bad men…
I’m glad adults were in charge rather than amoral children who think the TV show 24 is a documentary.
Posted by: jhw539 | February 2, 2010, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Gee, what a surprise – the professionals in our justice system know how to get information from bad men…
Too bad they can’t keep them from getting in the US.
Posted by: Go Janet! | February 3, 2010, 12:09 am 12:09 am
It’s fortunate that the family of this young man seem to be decent and law-abiding. I have to wonder though about any future terrorists who do not come from such a background. It won’t always (or even usually) be possible to round up Mom and Dad or whoever and have them reason with their son. In many cases the youth are reared in a manner that directly or indirectly motivates them toward martyrdom.
Posted by: Max | February 3, 2010, 12:42 am 12:42 am
tierra
Time to put down the tired talking
points, don the ACORN jacket, and
go out for s “smoke”…..like Obama
did before he became the “second coming.”
Posted by: Sir Toby Belch | February 3, 2010, 2:36 am 2:36 am
Posted by: Sir Toby Belch | Feb 3, 2010 2:36:29 AM
As usual, when the Republican right can’t reply to points of discussion, they retreat to personal insult
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We already saw the Republican mastery of terrorists and the enemy.
Iran developed a secret nuclear facility on Bush’s watch.
North Korea tested its first nuclear weapon on Bush’s watch.
Bin Laden and al Qaeda escaped in Afghanistan on Bush’s shift.
Twenty per cent of the detainees Bush released have returned to terrorism.
So much for the stellar record of the Republican presidency.
Posted by: tierra | February 3, 2010, 3:18 am 3:18 am
I can’t believe Obama is still defending reading enemy combatants Miranda rights. They still don’t get it. The previous administration pushed to refine the Military Commission option because the civilian court option was not suitable. Why has Obama dug in his heels on this one? He will lose this battle and drag Dems down with him. It’s just plain stupid and embarrassing to see the Obama administration go to the wall on this travesty. This is totally Carteresque.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | February 3, 2010, 4:34 am 4:34 am
This sort of premature criticism during the Bush year would have surely been slammed as “un-American” or a “danger” to the nation.
Posted by: matt | February 3, 2010, 7:41 am 7:41 am
Saddened, but not surprised that the right wingers are out in force with their usual routine: bloviating on a subject they don’t understand, insisting on a one-size-fits all approach from the right wing hymnal, drumming up outrage although their own guy did the same during his administration, spewing personal insults and hatred at this president, and NEVER having a tangible idea of what they themselves would propose for a given problem.
Well played so far, CIA, FBI, DOJ. Keep truckin’, right wing hatemongers.
Posted by: anselm | February 3, 2010, 7:51 am 7:51 am
I think it’s funny when the Obamanation goes on defense.. as if the right wing sings from a hymnal .. the chorus of Obamaites is deafening and the choir book is much more limited.. Obama is great, Obama is good even if he ain’t straight out the ‘hood.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | February 3, 2010, 7:57 am 7:57 am
Well I guess we have to give up any hope of seeing O’Keefe waterboarded now.
The real objective of the Republican party is not to make anyone safer, it is to cover up for the torture policies conducted under Bush.
Not only is torture criminal, it is less effective than the interrogation methods the FBI has used for years.
The GOP needs to learn the difference between how things work in Hollywood and how they work in real life. Guess what, the scriptwriters for 24 have never once seen a real interrogation.
Posted by: PHB | February 3, 2010, 8:09 am 8:09 am
But I though Gibbs said they got all the information within the first 50 minutes?
Posted by: Ronnie | February 3, 2010, 11:13 am 11:13 am
Here is Gibbs a few weeks ago saying they got all the information they could get:
WALLACE: And let me just press one last question. You really don’t think that if you’d interrogated him longer that you might have gotten more information, since we now know that Al Qaida in Yemen…
GIBBS: FBI — well, FBI interrogators believe they got valuable intelligence and were able to get all that they could out of him.
WALLACE: All they could.
GIBBS: Yeah.
But now, lo and behold, they are getting more information! The outright dishonesty in politics is mind boggling. It is all about defending yourself even when you know you are wrong.
Posted by: Ronnie | February 3, 2010, 11:19 am 11:19 am
I am so glad common sense is prevailing. If the experts say torture yields false information, that is the fact to go by, not what is shown in movies and on t.v. I commend the family for making their best effort to encourage their son to give information that will help us. No one can go back and fix the past; all we can do is live today the best way we can.
Posted by: Lydia | February 3, 2010, 11:25 am 11:25 am
CYA much??
“The family was “instrumental in gaining Mr. Abdulmuttalab’s cooperation,” said the senior administration official. The information Abdulmuttalab is sharing has been described by other officials as fresh and actionable.”
Wait a minute, you clowns. You just told us a couple of days ago that he told us EVERYTHING we would ever need to know in his 50 minute log interrogation on Christmas day.
Posted by: Obama, You LIE, again! | February 3, 2010, 11:30 am 11:30 am
I guess this statement is no longer operative (you young ‘uns can do a search for a man named Ron Ziegler to understand the reference):
“On Fox News Sunday January 24, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said that “FBI interrogators believe they got valuable intelligence and were able to get all that they could out of him.” When host Chris Wallace asked, “All they could?” Gibbs answered, “Yeah.”
Posted by: Bob | February 3, 2010, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Give me 2 hours, some rope, and a wood chipper and I’ll have the SOB talking.
Posted by: Bert | February 3, 2010, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Wait a minute, you clowns. You just told us a couple of days ago that he told us EVERYTHING we would ever need to know in his 50 minute log interrogation on Christmas day.
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Someone said they got as much information as they could, and with family cooperation they got more. Big deal.
In terms of ‘getting it wrong’ that is nowhere in the league of the Bush administration having 20% of the people it released back undertaking terrorist activities.
Seems to me THEY had the bad information, regardless of the techniques they used.
Posted by: tierra | February 3, 2010, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
As much as I criticize Obama for his lack of a liberal/progressive agenda in other areas, it is good to see actual grown-ups in charge for a change. Serious, professional people get things done.
I think that is what scares the corporatists the most – that government will actually work.
Posted by: Flash Override | February 3, 2010, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
I saw a documentary about interrogation techniques recently. They showed footage from an interrogation that went wrong. The interrogator got up in this young guy’s face and berated him for hours until he “confessed” to the crime. It was later proven beyond a doubt that he had been out of the country at the time the crime took place.
I imagine if someone were waterboarding you or torturing you in some other way you would confess to anything to make it stop as well.
Posted by: john | February 8, 2010, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm