Orszag on the Hot Seat
ABC News’ George Sanchez reports:
Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag faced the wrath of Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., Tuesday during the Senate Budget Committee hearing on the Obama administration’s budget proposal for 2011.
Gregg was irked about President Obama’s plan to unveil a new proposal to use $30 billion from Troubled Asset Relief Program funds to help community banks lend to small businesses at an event Tuesday afternoon in Nashua, NH – Gregg’s home state.
“This proposal violates the law,” Gregg said. “The whole concept of the TARP was as we recouped the money, we would use it to pay down the debt. Now that’s not going to happen. It’s become a piggy bank. A piggy bank which adds to our deficit.”
Though Orszag said he understood that it would take an act of Congress to change the current law, Gregg said the president was taking TARP money and using it for political purposes.
“Let me tell you what the law says,” Gregg said. “Let me read to you again because you don’t appear to understand the law. The law is very clear. The monies recouped from the TARP shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury for the reduction of the public debt. It’s not for a piggy bank because you’re concerned about lending to small businesses and you want to get a political event, when you go out and make a speech in Nashua, New Hampshire. That’s not what this money is for.”
Though it appeared committee Democrats were receptive to the idea of helping small businesses, Sen. Kent Conrad, D-ND, the chairman of the Budget Committee, shared Gregg’s concern that the administration’s proposal to pay down the debt doesn’t go far enough.
“As the recovery takes hold we then must pivot and deal with the long term debt. And the place where I fault this budget is that I don’t see that pivot,” Conrad said. “I am very concerned about the long-term because I believe we are on an unsustainable course. The president’s 10-year outlook I don’t think is the path we can take as a nation.”
- George Sanchez
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Posted by: Bob | February 2, 2010, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
“The law is very clear. The monies recouped from the TARP shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury for the reduction of the public debt.”
Laws don’t mean anything to the Obama administration or to liberals in general.
Posted by: Sigmonde | February 2, 2010, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
The unsustainable debt crisis our nation is suffering is no longer a political issue…the 535 members of Congress need to address this head on, right now. Orzag and Geithner need to go. We need people who know how to balance America’s checkbook and debt servicing and deal with it in a meaningful way ASAP.
Posted by: BucksMomisright | February 2, 2010, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Obama’s no “liberal” — he’s one of yours. ”
One of my what?
Posted by: Sigmonde | February 2, 2010, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Gregg was irked about President Obama’s plan to unveil a new proposal to use $30 billion from Troubled Asset Relief Program funds to help community banks… “This proposal violates the law,”
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More useless grandstanding from a Republican. It’s a PROPOSAL, not an executive order or action. The President can propose anything he wants, even if Republicans don’t want to talk about the fact that TARP is documented as costing taxpayers FAR less than Republican hysterics in January insisted it would (but Republican exaggerations turning out hilariously wrong isn’t even news anymore).
If Republicans are going to attack literally every proposal the President ever makes, they look awfully hypocritical when they then insist he needs to ‘focus on the economy and jobs’.
Posted by: jhw539 | February 2, 2010, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
WIRE: Backdoor taxes to hit middle class…
REUTERS pulls tax story…
Largest-ever federal payroll to hit 2.15 million employees…
I want obama to explain his tax increases on people makeing $33,000
Posted by: another crisis another photo op | February 2, 2010, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
What Mr. Gregg does not say is that the big banks have NOT been lending to small businesses due to what they say is too much risk. So, what Obama is saying to the big banks – screw you! You can’t or won’t loan – we’ll get the small banks to do it. Maybe they’ll create jobs where clearly you have not
Posted by: Bob | February 2, 2010, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
“they look awfully hypocritical when they then insist he needs to ‘focus on the economy and jobs’. ”
Do you think the Bush tax cuts should expire and raise everyone’s taxes? How will that help the economy and create new jobs?
Posted by: Sigmonde | February 2, 2010, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
“You can’t or won’t loan – we’ll get the small banks to do it. ”
How much $ do you think banks, other than community banks, lend to business in the US relative to the proposed 30 billion to community banks?
Posted by: Sigmonde | February 2, 2010, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Do you think the Bush tax cuts should expire and raise everyone’s taxes? How will that help the economy and create new jobs?
Hey, we gotta pay Fannie and Fred!
Posted by: Orzigzag | February 2, 2010, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Obama’s campaigning again. He based the entire 2008 campaign on lies. I won’t believe him this time. This corrupt administration needs to be stopped.
Posted by: OBAMA'S "HOPE & CHANGE" = "HOAX & CHAINS"! | February 2, 2010, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
—Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) is accusing Republicans of undermining national security, saying GOP filibusters of White House nominees are leaving critical posts empty at the State Department and Department of Homeland Security.—
Well then Harry, tell Obama to quit nominating inexperienced partisan hacks, crooks, fringe extremists, and tax cheats.
Posted by: Obama: I Am the One You Are Waiting For | February 2, 2010, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) is accusing Republicans of undermining national security, saying GOP filibusters of White House nominees are leaving critical posts empty at the State Department and Department of Homeland Security.—
Janet and Hillary have done such great work.
Posted by: Rossiya | February 2, 2010, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
“Janet and Hillary have done such great work.”
Posted by: Rossiya | Feb 2, 2010 3:34:31 PM
Heh. Janet “The System Worked” Napalitano.
Posted by: Obama: I Am the One You Are Waiting For | February 2, 2010, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
“Do you think the Bush tax cuts should expire and raise everyone’s taxes?”
The Bush tax cuts for the two top tax brackets are left to expire in the new proposed budget keeping all other marginal rates the same.
That is what Obama campaigned on.
So not everyone’s taxes are going up.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.
Posted by: Ryan C | February 2, 2010, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
So not everyone’s taxes are going up. Posted by: Ryan C
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Really? Have you read today’s article from Reuters entitled “Backdoor Taxes to Hit Middle Class.”
What’s the lesson from this?
Progressives always lie?!
Posted by: wow | February 2, 2010, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
“Have you read today’s article from Reuters entitled “Backdoor Taxes to Hit Middle Class.”
Yeah it complains that the Make Work Pay tax credit will be have to be renewed year to year (as many tax breaks are).
It also claimed that all Bush tax cuts of the marginal rates would expire when the budget only calls for cuts for the top two rates to expire and keep all the other rates where they are.
And lastly it claimed the budget proposed did nothing about the AMT (Alternative Minimum Tax) which has been a political issue for YEARS. See AMT has not been indexed for inflation so more and more people get caught by it unless Congress offers a patch.
Obama’s budget calls for continuing the patch thru 2020.
So basically the claim that middle class taxes will go up under the Obama budget is completely false.
It was a shoddy article full of blatant inaccuracies and Reuters pulled it.
Of course the right wing loved it.
Posted by: Ryan C | February 2, 2010, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
My point is just stop with the nasty. People would be much more open to listening if facts were given in a thoughtful, factual manner.
Posted by: wow | February 2, 2010, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Heh. Janet “The System Worked” Napalitano.
Posted by: Obama: I Am the One You Are Waiting For | Feb 2, 2010 3:40:14 PM
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The Republican right are pathetic.
They hang around like jackals waiting for some tidbit they can turn into a moronic bumper sticker talking point.
Substance is something lacking – the point is attack, demonize and insult.
Lowering the level of decent politics – the Republican right.
Posted by: tierra | February 2, 2010, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Dear Leader sez:
That evil Bush left me a $400 billion deficit.
Hurry up and pass my “1.6 TRILLION deficit, or the economy will collapse.
Posted by: Economy Czar | February 2, 2010, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
—“This proposal violates the law,” Gregg said. “The whole concept of the TARP was as we recouped the money, we would use it to pay down the debt. Now that’s not going to happen. It’s become a piggy bank. A piggy bank which adds to our deficit.”—
The lesson as always, is that Liberals cannot resist more spending, more taxes, more debt, and more regulation.
Posted by: The Chicago Way | February 2, 2010, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Dear Leader sez:
That evil Bush left me a $400 billion deficit.
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Actually, it was a $1.3 TRILLION dollar deficit for fiscal 2009 left by the previous administration.
Posted by: tierra | February 2, 2010, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
“Actually, it was a $1.3 TRILLION dollar deficit for fiscal 2009 left by the previous administration.”
Posted by: tierra | Feb 2, 2010 6:08:51 PM
Nice try. Thank you for playing. Obama signed the FY 2009 budget, because Pelosi and Reid delayed it with continuing resolutions until Obama could be sworn in. And Bush left Obama one half of the TARP money to spend.
The lesson as always, is that Liberals lie.
Posted by: Economy Czar | February 2, 2010, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
“The lesson as always, is that Liberals cannot resist more spending, more taxes, more debt, and more regulation.”
When we say the right wing has no ideas, we’re not kidding.
Posted by: Ryan C | February 2, 2010, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
“Nice try. Thank you for playing. Obama signed the FY 2009 budget, because Pelosi and Reid delayed it with continuing resolutions until Obama could be sworn in. And Bush left Obama one half of the TARP money to spend.”
So that would mean half the TARP money is Bush’s.
Apparently liberal ideas are so good right wingers who can’t think of their own, imitate them.
I’m flattered.
Posted by: Ryan C | February 2, 2010, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
“So that would mean half the TARP money is Bush’s.
Apparently liberal ideas are so good right wingers who can’t think of their own, imitate them.
I’m flattered.”
Posted by: Ryan C | Feb 2, 2010 6:18:21 PM
So, you proudly take ownership of the idea to bail out big Wall Street banks?? Wow, what a Populist!
Posted by: Economy Czar | February 2, 2010, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
“So, you proudly take ownership of the idea to bail out big Wall Street banks?? Wow, what a Populist!”
No, that one is shared by some Republicans and quite a few Democrats who decided as unpopular on their face the bailout was, the economic collapse demanded the action.
I can’t take ownership of the idea but I understand why it was done.
But its nice that you find my fav tagline so appealing you have begun to imitate me.
Like I said, I’m flattered.
Posted by: Ryan C | February 2, 2010, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Of course royalist stooge Judd Gregg is upset that TARP funds are being used help out community banks and small businesses; he was the co-author of TARP, and wants your tax dollars to flow into the pockets of his Wall Street buddies.
Why aren’t the American people descending on Washington with pitchforks? We’ve become a nation of sheep.
Posted by: The Beagle | February 2, 2010, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Sen. Gregg, you’re a petulant child, throwing a temper tantrum, impugning someone’s integrity because he came to ask for a change in the law that you so histrionically waved.
He reminds me of Cheswick in “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”: “I want MY cigarettes, Nurse Ratched!”
Posted by: AmITheOnlyOneWithEyes | February 2, 2010, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Wow can you really sit there with no reaction when the budget plan laid out in all seriousness by this administration a)is unsustainable and b)violates the law Congress has to change it before they can implement it). Whoever said it before was right all these people know how to do is spend like kids with Daddy’s credit cards. It’s appalling that people defend Obama’s debt by saying Bush had debt too. Are you that clueless?! Get a grip at some point you have to look at it and say stop not because you vote for a guy but because you look at what is going on and the very real implications it has for the future of our country.
Posted by: GO | February 2, 2010, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
It’s appalling that people defend Obama’s debt by saying Bush had debt too.
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The difference is this . . . Bush had a deficits and doubled the national debt when there was NO economic collapse.
Times of economic collapse place heavy demands on government programs and strip away tax revenues creating deficits and debt – that is what is going on now.
Bush did not have the defense of an economic collapse for his debts. Obama most certainly does.
Posted by: tierra | February 3, 2010, 3:37 am 3:37 am
Tierra nice try but you are still making it about Bush and Obama and not looking at the debt and GDP. Who cares it whose in office it could be a third Bush in office now the point is to look at what they’re doing. You keep defending him and his reckless spending but because of it both dems, repubs and independants are all going to feel the consequences.
Posted by: GO | February 3, 2010, 9:45 am 9:45 am