By Nitya

Feb 10, 2010 4:11pm

Political Punch Podcast: Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wisc.

On this week's podcast, we spoke to Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, the ranking Republican on the House Budget Committee.

 

Rep. Ryan’s proposals on health care reform and reducing the budget deficit are receiving a lot of attention in the political world — not all of it positive. 

 

You can download the podcast on iTunes or listen to it HERE.  The podcast is produced by Huma Khan and Lindsey Ellerson.

 

When President Obama appeared at the House GOP retreat a couple weeks ago, he singled out Ryan as a Republican with serious ideas, even if he disagrees with many of them.

 

Ryan asked the president if he could support a proposal he's worked on with Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wisc., for a line item veto.

 

Their proposal would be constitutional, Ryan said, keeping the “power of the purse” with Congress but giving the president the tool to pull out pork from legislation. 

 

“It’s not going to solve our entire fiscal problem, but it kind of goes at the culture of spending, and it embarrasses a lot of the pork out of the budget,” Ryan said. “If (Nebraska Democratic Sen.) Ben Nelson knew that the "Cornhusker Kickback' that he got for his state and only his state might have to be voted on independently later by his peers, he might not ask for it in the first place.  And, so that’s kind of the chilling effect on a lot of the waste and a lot of the deal cutting that’s going on around here that we think our deal will achieve.” 

 

When it comes to health care, Ryan is proposing a drastic change to Medicare, a plan under which seniors get a voucher to buy private insurance.

 

He argues that Republicans need to stand firm on their principles, but he admits that former President George W. Bush and Republicans were fiscally irresponsible when I pressed him on that. 

 

“I’m not going to argue with that,” he said. “The problem our party had was we were soft on spending. … A lot of us fought this stuff in the majority at the time but we were in the minority (in the majority) and the minority lost those fights.

 

"We need to acknowledge to the American people we did things wrong," he continued, "especially when it came to spending, and we’ve got to learn from those mistakes and make sure that we don’t repeat them. I think we owe it to voters to acknowledge this and if you don’t acknowledge the mistakes were made, then they don’t think you learned your lesson.” 

 

Ryan, considered a rising star of the party, says the Republican leadership needs to have an “adult conversation” about the economic situation of the country. 

 

“We need to have a real adult conversation in this country about the future of our country because you know what, the future — our fiscal situation is really dire and getting worse very quickly,” he said. “Europe is on the cusp of a debt crisis right now. We can’t ignore these facts. We can’t assume that because we’re America we’re immune to these problems.” 

 

At the same time, Ryan says it’s unfair to label Republicans as the “Party of No.” 

 

“Many of us in the Republican party have offered full comprehensive ideas," he insisted.

 

On President Obama’s appeal for bipartisanship, Ryan is hopeful, but he assailed the Democratic leadership for being unwilling to listen to Republican ideas. 

 

“I know that there are Democrats for sure that we can work with to get things done, but you know what, those. aren’t the Democrats running Washington right now,” he said. “The Democrats running Washington right now tell people like me, ‘we’re not going to work with you, we’re doing it our way because we’ve got the votes, and we’re just going to run right over you.’ … You don’t have the common sense, hash-out-the-problem, thinking Democrats running the place right now.” 

 

You can download the podcast on iTunes or listen to it HERE:

http://a.media.abcnews.com/podcasts/100210_punch_ryan.mp3  

 

– jpt

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Enter Cede & Co II; The Fed Is Now Backstopping $25 Trillion In DTCC Cleared Credit Default Swaps
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Submitted by Tyler Durden on 02/10/2010 15:40 -0500
You thought the $23 trillion in backstops for the financial system was bad, you ain’t seen nothing yet. Earlier today, the Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation, best known for its Cede & Co. partnership nominee which is the holder of virtually every single physical stock certificate in the known universe, and accounts for over $2 quadrillion in stock transactions per year, announced that “the Federal Reserve Board had approved its application to establish a DTCC subsidiary that is a member of the Federal Reserve System to operate the Trade Information Warehouse (Warehouse) for over the-counter (OTC) credit derivatives.” With this approval the DTCC is now the de facto legally accepted global repository for over-the-counter credit derivative transactions. Simply said, the Federal Reserve is now the guarantor behind all CDS transactions that clear via DTCC, which would be pretty much all of them (sorry CME, you lose). The total bottom line in terms of gross notional? 2.3 million contracts with a gross notional value of $25.5 trillion. When the next AIG implodes, and the CDS market is once again facing annihilation in the face, who will be on the hook? You dear taxpayer, that’s who.
The new Fed-endorsed organization will settle CDS obligations in all currencies and process credit events. It will also include all OTC credit derivatives traded worldwide, and will be regulated by the Fed and the NY State Banking Department and will be overseen by other US and International regulators.
To be sure, the net notional CDS amount, which is what counterparties would be on the hook for in the case of an orderly unwind of the financial system, is materially lower than the gross total. Yet, as systemic unwinds are never orderly, gross tends to become net in those occasions when Lehman bonds go from par to 10 cents in the span of 24 hours. Should systemic risk flare up again (and this time Europe will be both shaken and stirred, thank you Mr. Hazard… Moral Hazard), and fiat-based market values quickly catch up with fair values (which in our ponzi economy can easily be calculated: they are all zero).
The actual organization that will soon be in need of a bailout, is the Warehouse Trust (there’s that word again) Company, which in turn will operate the DTCC’s Trade Information Warehouse, and will begin operations “once certain organizational conditions have been met, which are expected shortly.” Presumably, the TIW, which has been in operation for just over one year, is somehow supposed to inspire confidence that the DTCC has an idea of everything that goes on in the quadrillion + CDS Market. “The release of this information has been an important step forward in helping increase transparency in the marketplace. More detailed information on individual firm trading has been made available confidentially to regulators around the world with the consent of market participants.” Oh great, at least someone has information to the confidential information.
What all this implies is that basis spreads will likely compress very shortly, once counterparty risk becomes a thing of the past and all systemic risk in the biggest derivative market out there (ex IR swaps) is fully backstopped by the Federal Reserve. It will also guarantee the DTCC monopoly status when it comes to CDS trading as nobody will desire to transact and/or clear elsewhere.
We shudder to think if the Fed grants DTCC with exclusive status for IR and FX swaps as well, and the associated $600 trillion notional outstanding.

Posted by: pauldia | February 10, 2010, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

It’s true.. the Dem leadership has totally ignored the GOP.. snubbed them ever since the election.. this made the POTUS’ job much more difficult.. they not only wouldn’t unilaterally pass their own legislation.. they also ostracized the other party..
When it comes to Obama vs House and Senat Dems.. I say Obama has a lot better sense and is more cooperative.

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | February 10, 2010, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

He argues that Republicans need to stand firm on their principles, but he admits that former President George W. Bush and Republicans were not fiscally irresponsible when I pressed him on that.

NOT fiscally irresponsible? Gotta be a typo.

Posted by: progressive mama | February 10, 2010, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

It’s true.. the Dem leadership has totally ignored the GOP.. snubbed them ever since the election..
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Nonsense. The Republicans have held up – what is it – 60 of the Democrats appointees? The most filibusters in decades . ..
Who has been being obstructionist? Who has been snubbing who?

Posted by: tierra | February 10, 2010, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

Who’s snubbing who

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | February 10, 2010, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

. I say Obama has a lot better sense and is more cooperative.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | Feb 10, 2010 4:19:10 PM

I agree with that, for the most part, though I’d throw in House and Senate Republicans, too– and Lieberman, whatever one considers him.

Posted by: progressive mama | February 10, 2010, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

Ryan needs to be asked why he is so intent on destroying Medicare and Social Security and leaving old folks to wither and die.
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It IS hypocritical that those who were asking Democrats and President Obama that type of thing (and who spent a lot of time fear mongering among seniors) aren’t willing to ask Ryan.

Posted by: progressive mama | February 10, 2010, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm

Who has been being obstructionist? Who has been snubbing who?
Posted by: tierra | Feb 10, 2010 4:28:15 PM
Nonsense. The “obstruction” you speak of only came after the Republicans were shut out of meetings, and the other “closed door” sessions by the Democrats proved to be nothing more than Congressional “buy offs” so they could push their agendas through without any pushback. SURPRISE!
Say what you want about obstruction and “party of no” and so on, but I don’t hear the American public being angry because the Democrat’s bills got shut down. Obviously, the Republicans are more in touch with the people…and that’s a good thing, right?

Posted by: Shoe | February 10, 2010, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

I keep wondering why we couldn’t us commoners just pay our premiums to Medicare and get the same coverage that 65 and overs get.. the programs are already in place.. what’s a little more underfunding? Then the insurance companies would be left to depend on the cadillac peeps.

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | February 10, 2010, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm

“Ryan needs to be asked why he is so intent on destroying Medicare and Social Security and leaving old folks to wither and die”.
Social security is not a problem for the crop of seniors on it now but if I were of the dreamie eyed younger generation full of hope and other stuff I would be prepared to work solely for those two programs as it will be so far in debt that it’ll take everyone just to pay the debt.

Posted by: david | February 10, 2010, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

Rep Ryan appears to be a straight shooter – tells it like it is. Making social security and medicare solvent won’t be easy. Most politicians duck the subject in an election year. At least he is trying to do something before it becomes a full blown crisis.

Posted by: Jeff | February 10, 2010, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

The acceptability of Ryan’s proposal would center around how Medicare and Social Security are being affected.
Seniors have paid into these programs all their working lives, and they deserve to be able to depend on receiving them.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | February 10, 2010, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

tierra —- Wow, obstructionists to a supermajority! Considering the poor vetting that has gone on in this administration, I believe we should hold any nominees to a mediocre standard at least don’t you? You constantly complain about the GOP without offering any ideas. Blame Bush is out the window, now it’s time for you to grow up and start blaming those in power. Otherwise, you are out of touch with reality.

Posted by: lfrichar | February 10, 2010, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

“”"Who has been being obstructionist? Who has been snubbing who?”"”"
Posted by: tierra
Then please enlighten us on why Obama recently said he will meet the GOP “halfway”? This would indicate they were not meeting anywhere near half way previously.

Posted by: lfrichar | February 10, 2010, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

First of all thanks Jake for the thorough interview, so helpful.
1) Ryan needs to be asked why he is so intent on destroying Medicare and Social Security and leaving old folks to wither and die.
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Did you even listen to his proposal it won’t change ANYTHING for people over 55.
2) Then please enlighten us on why Obama recently said he will meet the GOP “halfway”? This would indicate they were not meeting anywhere near half way previously.
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Posturing but it’s quite disingenuous to offer to meet people “halfway” on a dead bill your own side can’t even pass.
3)Also to anyone (no matter the party) like Rep. Ryan please ignore the attack machines people are genuinely listening for good ideas use the internet like he has/is and take time to explain your ideas.

Posted by: GO | February 10, 2010, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

That was a great interview. Great ideas.

Posted by: wow | February 10, 2010, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

THIS ARTICLE SAID: “When it comes to health care, Ryan is proposing a drastic change to Medicare, a plan under which seniors get a voucher to buy private insurance.”
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Hmmm… will this really solve the problem?
The problem with our medical system lies in the natural greed of human beings…we all want more. Between the insurance companies and the medical facilities being paid by insurance companies, cost for medical care has become outrageous.
Providing “vouchers” to seniors is only a new method of feeding the beast for it’s unending thirst for more (higher salaries and more bonuses). That thirst will never be put in “check” unless some new, large, competition is introduced in the insurance market that gives private insurance a run for it’s money (right now, private medcial insurance doesn’t even “crawl” for the outrageous profits they make each year).
Such competition for private insurance can only come in the form of a government sponsored health insurance program where people are afforded the opportunity to pay monthly premiums into a health plan that is NOT out to increase its profit margin every year.
Again… “vouchers to purchase private insurance” is just another way of feeding the beast, through a different payment method! The problem will still be there.

Posted by: X-Republican Because of Bush | February 10, 2010, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Mr. Ryan…it appears that your party doesn’t realize that it was Not elected by the people, as they Rejected Loudly the policies of his party. From the Beginning this party on Capitol Hill, systematically began to Reject Anything the Dems offer. We watched through the Summer How the Dems attempted to get bipartisanship on the healthcare reform bill, and waited for months for No-problem nominees to Various governmental daily functions, With a Republican from Alabama Holding up over 200 confirmations. Mr. Ryan, your party has Voted NO on everything this Congress has worked on…and Still deny that the STIMILUS Bill Stopped the Worst Financial Breakdown since the Great Depression. Mr. Ryan, your party is playing politically football with our Nation’s securtiy to Score Cheap political points. Mr. Ryan, your party is now suggesting that President Obama fire Sec. Brennan for calling for it the way it is…Brennan Worked for GWBush! Mr. Ryan, the Shape that Your party left this country in, is Not simply irresponsible, but Criminal. As a reminder, the American people are no fools.

Posted by: sara | February 10, 2010, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

Mr. Ryan…it appears that your party doesn’t realize that it was Not elected by the people,
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Paul Ryan was just as elected as Barack Obama, or any Democratic member of the House.
The people who elected him wanted him to represent their interests. And that’s what he’s trying to do.

Posted by: MayBee | February 10, 2010, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Again… “vouchers to purchase private insurance” is just another way of feeding the beast, through a different payment method! The problem will still be there.
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TO x repub, the article is like condensed cliffs notes and really not a full picture. If you can click on the link and listen to Jake’s full interview it’s really worth getting the whole picture. Not all the answers but some good ones and a more full picture of the problems at hand.

Posted by: obieone40 | February 10, 2010, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

Mr. Ryan, your party has Voted NO on everything this Congress has worked on
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And yet the dems still passed what they wanted to.
Mr. Ryan, your party is now suggesting that President Obama fire Sec. Brennan for calling for it the way it is…Brennan Worked for GWBush!
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Doesn’t quite sound like you’re saying the repubs in congress are a continuation of Bush but Obama is.
Mr. Ryan, the Shape that Your party left this country in, is Not simply irresponsible, but Criminal.
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What’s criminal is submitting a budget that even your own party says is unsustainable.
At least Mr. Ryan is attempting a substantive approach that even independant evaluators like the CBO say is helpful at addressing our current problems. Who cares what party he is from I hope more like him show up and work hard whatever their party.

Posted by: GO | February 10, 2010, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

Where are the hard-hitting questions from Jake Tapper?

Posted by: tierra | February 10, 2010, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

Mr. Ryan, your party has Voted NO on everything this Congress has worked on
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And yet the dems still passed what they wanted to.
Posted by: GO | Feb 10, 2010 7:22:47 PM
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Are you kidding? Do you know how many of this administration’s appointments have been held up by Republicans?

Posted by: tierra | February 10, 2010, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Mr. Ryan, your party has Voted NO on everything this Congress has worked on
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And yet the dems still passed what they wanted to.
Posted by: GO | Feb 10, 2010 7:22:47 PM
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Are you kidding? Do you know how many of this administration’s appointments have been held up by Republicans?
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Are you kidding do you know how much awful legislation they’ve passed.

Posted by: GO | February 10, 2010, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

Are you kidding?How long has it taken for Corpseman Obama to even nominate candidates for the positions that tierra claims the Republicans are holding up?It took Corpseman Obama eight months to even nominate a candidate to head TSA; when he did nominate someone it was an individual with terrible baggage.Once that baggage became known the individual quit.Many of his appointments have been horribly unqualified-when they become exposed they quit;maybe Corpseman Obama can learn from this.but I doubt it.Doug Wilder can see what is happening.

Posted by: Nephron | February 10, 2010, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm

Some of his nominess are going thru. The President is encouraging bipartisanship with his appointments. There was bipartisan opposition to his nominee for the NLRB.

Posted by: obieone40 | February 10, 2010, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm

Are you kidding? Do you know how many of this administration’s appointments have been held up by Republicans?
Posted by: tierra

Who cares? They’d have put the brakes on that pedophile czar if they’d had the chance!

Posted by: smartlillena | February 10, 2010, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm

Excellent interview. He sounds like a man with plan. He is one of the few that truly gets it. Obama should listen to him.

Posted by: jennifert7 | February 10, 2010, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm

Has it dawned on some here that when a majority of people voted Obama and the DEM in, Gave them a majority in both houses, they did so to have them pass the healthcare reform and fulfill other promises they made. While your GOP constituents OBVIOUSLY are against these, acting in a partisan way trying to block any promise from materializing is depriving the majority from what THEY want done. GOP has to acknowledge that a majority of US citizens want things done that THEY don’t like, and accept to work on their behalf as well as for people who voted for them. Getting provisions and amendments that would address concerns of the minority is the reasonable thing to do, trying to prevent the majority from getting what they voted for is irresponsible.

Posted by: treblig56 | February 10, 2010, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm

depriving the majority from what THEY want done.

What they thought they wanted done. The majority has since learned they’d been taken for fools. Thus, that majority doesn’t exist any longer. Thankfully.

Posted by: smartlillena | February 10, 2010, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

If you look on #### at their budget proposal like I did, you don’t see a whole lot there at all. All I saw when I read it were spending cuts with no plan to actually reduce the deficit. Cutting corporate taxes, capitol gains tax cuts extended till 2011, but no mention of what wage earners will benefit. (Not to mention Obama is already going to cut capitol gains for small business.) And last but not least, increasing spending for the military. The republicans voted against increasing health benefits to the military in 2009! And all 40 republicans voted against pay-go, to help reduce the deficit!

Posted by: chis | February 10, 2010, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

The lies about social security are hard to take. The trust fund should be honored; there’s no “crisis”. Its not going to need to be touched until 2044.
Stop repeating think tank propaganda like a dupe. Think for yourself, read up on how social security actually works. FICA has taken more than it needs out of our paychecks for decades; the trust fund should not be defaulted on by cutting it or raising FICA. Just honor the debt incurred by the treasury.
Better yet stop wasting money on idiotic wars. THAT is how you cut the deficit.

Posted by: class warfare on the poor | February 10, 2010, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

My question to the readers who wait for anyone to post their comment, then they proceed to try to tear it up. Would any of you vote for a healthcare program that includes all the exemptions such as the union exemption from paying the tax on their insurance policy. Although they wouldn’t have to pay, the so-called Cadallic tax shouldn’t have been there anyway. How about all the pork for things other than healthcare. I admit we need healthcare reform, but com’on, this 2700 page bill was so out of this world in content, it shouldn’t even be used as toilet. I think Americans are too intelligent to turn their cheek just to say we have a healthcare bill. Let’s get serious. We have got to demand a simple healthcare bill that address’s healthcare. Not PORK!

Posted by: Carl Peterson | February 10, 2010, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm

Getting provisions and amendments that would address concerns of the minority is the reasonable thing to do, trying to prevent the majority from getting what they voted for is irresponsible.
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Excellent point except illogical. You even say it in your answer- they are the majority. They’ve passed what they wanted too despite the minority’s opposition, hence the whole MAJORITY thing. Also I don’t think the Pres represented himself as left as this legislation has been.
Now another point is that voters’ opposition to this has been growing since the summer. The more people heard about about it and saw what was going down the more they opposed it. Now the majority outside of Congress oppose this healthcare legislation, not healthcare reform. So is Congress responding like you said to the majority.

Posted by: obieone40 | February 10, 2010, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm

The federal government has stolen trillions of dollars from the American peoples Social Security trust fund. Now they are saying the trust fund is going broke. Quit lying to the American people, you have been caught and exposed for the thieves you are.

Posted by: Carl Peterson | February 10, 2010, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

@class warfarefor the poor:
I agree on that with F.I.C.A. taking there fair share of our money for decades. Reagan’s doubling of the FICA tax on people making$ 40,000 yr or less to make his budget deficit not look as bad as it actually was certainly added a lot to the pile. Rob from the poor to give to the rich. Regonomics trickle down effect.

Posted by: chris | February 10, 2010, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

Ryan has serious ideas, alright. A return to fiscal responsibility. Does the phrase “Reagan Democrat” mean anything to anyone here? If more Republicans like Ryan keep speaking up, the Reagan Democrats will be coming out of the woodwork in 2010.
This is the essence of the Republican resurgence. The message of a return to traditional Republican values of fiscal responsibility (admittedly abused under Bush/Harkin) is resonating with Independents and moderate Democrats. Unsustainable spending, whether it be for Obamacare, capntax, whatever, is scaring citizens to death.

Posted by: Woody | February 10, 2010, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

Reagan’s doubling of the FICA tax on people making$ 40,000 yr or less to make his budget deficit not look as bad as it actually was certainly added a lot to the pile.
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Remember, the Republicans promised that in return for putting SS on budget, and raising our taxes, they were going to guarantee payments in perpetuity.

Posted by: Flash Override | February 10, 2010, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

Every couple of years the Republicans come back with the same line. “We were not so good on the spending side” If I had a nickel for each time I heard that, I’d be a Republican (the rich kind, not the dumb kind)
How many of them voted against the unnecessary attack on Iraq? How many of them are at this moment putting holds on Obama’s nominees in a blatant attempt to get more pork?

Posted by: Flash Override | February 10, 2010, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

The message of a return to traditional Republican values of fiscal responsibility (admittedly abused under Bush/Harkin) is resonating with Independents and moderate Democrats.
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Only for people who aren’t awake, or have no research skills.
Reagan’s ‘fiscal responsibility’?
Reagan increased the national debt by $1.7 TRILLION dollars – a HUGE amount in the 1980′s. As a comparison, Carter increased the national debt by only $0.28 trillion dollars.
AND – Reagan’s ‘economy’ crashed in 1987 – the biggest stock market crash at that time since the Great Depression. That’s how secure the economy he created.
Same as Bush – cut taxes, create huge debt, watch the economy crash.

Posted by: tierra | February 10, 2010, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

The Democrats voted down, on party lines, over 400 amendments offered by the GOP during the health care debate. Who is really the “Party of No”?
BTW, for the folks claiming the increase in the FICA tax in the 80′s (approved by a majority Democrat House) was to make the deficits look better, reread your history. it was to keep Social Security solvent into this century. In other words, to push the problem off to another generation. As our 1.9 trillion deficit will do with today’s problems.

Posted by: Bob in Zion | February 10, 2010, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

Tierra Said: “Reagan increased the national debt by $1.7 TRILLION dollars – a HUGE amount in the 1980′s. As a comparison, Carter increased the national debt by only $0.28 trillion dollars.”
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Tierra… you’re one of the few on this ABC blog who has actually done your homework. You are correct… Reagan:
(1) Had the WORST unemployment rate of all presidents since Truman 22 months into his presidency (10.8%–>November/December 1982).
(2) In order to get out of that economic mess, Reagan implemented MASSIVE government spending focused on the Department of Defense and contracts within the Department of Defense.
(3) Rather than raising taxes to pay for his MASSIVE DOD SPENDING SPREE, Reagan borrowed, and borrowed, and borrowed, simultaneously lowering taxes for corporations and the top 10% income earners (the same folks who were benefiting from all the Defense contracts).
(4) The three largest increases to the national debt in the past 50 years all occurred under Republican presidents: Bush # 2, Reagan, and Bush # 1 (in that order in regards to amount).
(5) Because of all this borrowing and simultaneous lowering of taxes under these three Republican administrations, today, the first 480 Billion dollars of all tax revenues collected each year goes to pay for the interest on the massive national debt accumulated under these three Presidents.
… and people wonder why the Obama administration has such a huge deficit… “Duhh!” The first half trillion of the 2.8 Trillion collected each year goes to pay for interest on the debt… that’s why!

Posted by: X-Republican Because of Bush | February 10, 2010, 10:40 pm 10:40 pm

Lower Taxes, Smaller Gov’t, Less Spending, Decrease Deficit…I’ve heard this from Republicans my entire life.
But in the last 60 years NOT ONE Republican President ever lowered the deficit, decreased spending, submitted a balanced budget, or reduced the size of government. Not W, Bush Sr, Reagan, Ford, or Nixon.
Why should anyone believe that they are going to anything differently? History proves in practice they do otherwise.
People like Palin and other Pubs are again giving us the same rhetoric. And once again, they’ve proposed no real solutions, just the same empty platitudes and attacks.
Bush and Reagan did cut taxes. But at the same time Bush doubled the deficit and Reagan tripled it. And the tax rates under Reagan were over 10% higher than they are now. (I never realized we were all “socialists” under Reagan. Who knew?)Pubs like to forget interest rates were double digit. (See what kind of house you can get at 14% interest)To say reducing taxes caused economic growth ignores the impact of the massive spending they did.
Seems many on the right like to cherry pick history and then try to re-write it.
So how about instead of pointing fingers at the current President and blaming him for all the ills of the nation – which was a bi-partisan effort started years before he came into office – look at whose really stopping progress right now.
This political BS is not about spending. The new batch of self proclaimed “fiscal conservatives” never said a word when we borrowed billions from China to fund Cheney’s follies. Why not? Because Cheney was a Republican. So it’s obviously about politics.
And if Americans ever REALLY want to lower our debt, we’ll have to face reality. Quit expecting easy solutions, and accept that taxes will have to go up. We will never tax-cut our way out of debt.
America has been deficit spending since 1957… time to pay it back.

Posted by: Face the Facts | February 10, 2010, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

ALL REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMEN should quit receiving their GOV’T HEALTH CARE package! I’m sick of my tax dollars going for that pinko health care coverage! Don’t they know gov’t health care sucks? They obviously have to wait for months to see a doctor and no doubt their doctors suck as well.
For years they’ve been telling us how bad gov’t health care is. So they obviously would rather be paying the same skyrocketing premiums we do – just like the original patriots did. And if some of those older Congressmen don’t qualify for coverage, well they’re obviously just lazy and want a hand out.
Now I have to believe that our fine upstanding Republican Congressmen have simply forgotten to cancel their Commie-Pinko-Socialist health care policies. So let’s write our good Congressmen and remind them to drop their coverage now.
They’ll want to do it because otherwise they’d just look like obstructionist hypocrites. And we all know that’s just not the case.

Posted by: Right is All White | February 10, 2010, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

FINALLY – A SENSIBLE HEALTH CARE PLAN!!!!!!

Posted by: Manitu | February 11, 2010, 6:10 am 6:10 am

Excellent. Fair questions, articulate answers. May we please have more?

Posted by: Claire Leichtman | February 11, 2010, 7:45 am 7:45 am

Ryan’s plan for Social Security is cruel. With people not able to retire until 70 he is actually reducing the number who will ever collect. Insurance companies did a study of death rates. Those who retire before or when they reach 65 have a really good chance of living until they are 80. Those who retire after 65 have a much less of a chance of reaching that milestone. The medical experts who conducted the test say the stress of working full time after the age of 65 is much harder on the body. That is why those who retire earlier live longer.
So Ryan’s plan of raising the age of retirement to 70 will guarantee many won’t make it to retirement at all.

Posted by: Lydia | February 11, 2010, 8:22 am 8:22 am

I need to add to my earlier comment that working part-time hours is fine for your longevity after age 65. It is the stress of working full-time for most seniors that leads to earlier deaths.
Yes, there are exceptional people who work full-time just as there are exceptional people who smoke like chimneys with no ill effect. But the majority of us will have much shorter lives if we are forced to work full-time after age 65.

Posted by: Lydia | February 11, 2010, 8:25 am 8:25 am

Andy Stern makes some great points in an interview at Talking Points Memo (Stern: Ryan Roadmap A Harbinger Of Return To Bush-Era Government):
‘”It’s hard to imagine that this is a 21st century plan,” Stern told me in an interview this afternoon. “It seems like we’re going back to the future.”
“Particularly when George Bush inherited a surplus and drove it into a massive deficit, I’m not sure we should trust the Republican party’s rehashed ideas to not just bankrupt the country in the end,” Stern said.
I asked Stern whether it was fair to view the Ryan plan as a sneak peek into the governance of a potential Republican majority. Absolutely, Stern said.
“[Ryan] and Eric Cantor are the future of the post-Boehner group. For a group of people who keep saying we want to come to the table because we have all kinds of ideas, particualrly new ideas, these look like bad ideas,” Stern said.’

I have to say the latter reminded of Eric Cantor’s “magic pony show” in regards to his jobs ideas (they amounted to nada.) But I do think Paul Ryan could come up with something useful IF he was willing to actually work with Dems and debate it all out and think outside the same ole box, which hasn’t been beneficial in the long game– at all.

Posted by: progressive mama | February 11, 2010, 9:06 am 9:06 am

Progressive mamma your talking points are old and for the most part incorrect. In regard to spending the real spending and deficits started when the dems had the majority in the house and senate in 2006 and 2008. Bush should of vetoed all the bills and spending that was being passed by the dem majority. Bush should of had the guts to veto all of the massive spending but he punked out. The surplus you are talking about was a result of Clinton being governed by repub majorities in both the house and senate passing legislation they submitted. Remember after Clinton was impeached and lost the health care debacle he was basically just a figurehead passing repub bills.

Posted by: Stanley | February 11, 2010, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Posted by: Stanley | Feb 11, 2010 10:43:17 AM
You’re misinformed. Go back and look at who has tripled deficits and so on– check the track records, then post some actual numbers for us. That would be worthwhile (I mean, funding war on borrowed money is always a good idea, right? lol. )

Posted by: progressive mama | February 11, 2010, 10:52 am 10:52 am

“the real spending and deficits started when the dems had the majority in the house and senate in 2006 and 2008.”
The problem with this argument is that 1) most of the spending increase began in 2002-3 since most of the increase in spending over the last ten years was for war, and 2) most of the cause of the deficit was cuts in revenue instituted between 2001 and 2004.

Posted by: Flash Override | February 11, 2010, 11:06 am 11:06 am

It is so simple – Just do the right thing – you know what that is. Do the things that Americans, your family, mother and father would be proud of.
Don’t be clever; don’t rationalize your positions, stand up for the people who elected you to speak for them.
The Democrats clearly have stated that we the great un-washed are too stupid to know what’s good for America and that they and they alone what know what is best us.
The Democrats having the majority was a good thing for it exposed them for who they really are. They represent a small minority of left wing Hollywood types and Eastern liberals (fat cats). Half a– intellectuals who think they are better than everyone and hate any who disagree with them.
Its been a good year for us in another area, the main media news groups showed their bias in reporting which helped Obama get elected. We now saw how the media tries to control events. I figure the bias media was good for about 3% for Obama.
We now know that we can no longer trust the news media for the straight story, they are not fair nor balanced. No matter how much they tell they are, they are lying. They showed us all who they really are.

Posted by: a citizen | February 11, 2010, 11:11 am 11:11 am

About Social Security the congress has robbed the fund for years and to tell us too bad we not going do what we promised is a sin.
We must have baboons running our country, I am sure they will rationalize why the did this -
Question – did anyone ask the American people if was ok?
More money has been put into social security than the people have taken out.
They are all crooks I say through the bums out all of them

Posted by: a citizen | February 11, 2010, 11:17 am 11:17 am

I think raising the full benefits age from 65 to 70 actually is something reasonable to consider. If enacted it wouldn’t apply to anyone currently over 55. Also if the life expectancy has changed that much sine the orignal 65 was passed then it would be very similar to what people originally had planned when the SS was first enacted. Also if people are aware they could plan accordingly for those leaner years just like they currently do when they hit 65. For someone unable to physically do that there are some other programs they are there now that weren’t when SS was first set up.

Posted by: GO | February 11, 2010, 11:33 am 11:33 am

“Rep. Ryan’s proposals on health care reform and reducing the budget deficit are receiving a lot of attention in the political world — not all of it positive.”
That’s because he’s just another Republican moron obstructionist. What these vermin want is for things to stay exactly as they are.
I’m glad Obama came with this “health care summit” ploy. Giving the Repigs enough rope to hang themselves is wise. Because they’ll do it every time. (…and what a wonderful mental picture it is)
Of course, neither side is smart enough to institute Single Payer, which would do away with every bit of this drama. But that’s hard to do with Republicans/Blue Dogs whining SOCIALISM!!!

Posted by: captainkona | February 11, 2010, 11:44 am 11:44 am

I think raising the full benefits age from 65 to 70 actually is something reasonable to consider. -posted by GO
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The idea does have a lot of merit. It would increase the number of years a person pays into the Fund while reducing the number of years the Fund would pay out for that person.
But there are some negative aspects that must be considered.
(1) The higher the age of retirement means the longer a person will hold a position in the work force.
(2) That means more people competing for jobs in addition to population growth.
(3) More people competing for a fixed number of available jobs means higher unemployment.
(4) Higher unemployment means an increased demand for social programs such as unemployment insurance, Medicaid, and welfare financial assistance.
I’m not saying increasing the age of retirement is unworkable; but those 4 points must be balanced with the impact of perserving the Social Security Fund.

Posted by: malcat | February 11, 2010, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

Let’s see … “a voucher for private insurance” instead of Medicare. Come on Paul, who are you trying to kid? Go to the very industry that is screwing us over on regular health care costs and premiums. Now, this isn’t called polticial pandering to Corporate America at its worst? Why should we not allow the government (and its larhe constituency), instead, negotiate
health care costs? Does no one but me see evil intent and corporate toadyism here?

Posted by: CND FOX | February 11, 2010, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

I’m not saying increasing the age of retirement is unworkable; but those 4 points must be balanced with the impact of perserving the Social Security Fund.
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You seem to be making a lot of static assumptions about our positions in our workforce and population. The large bubble is hitting 65 soon. Also they may not be competing for the same jobs and hopefully new jobs are developing.
One personal example -we have some family members yes who did indeed keep their same jobs long past 65. They worked into their 70′s before they retired. We have a family member who in their 50′s was physically unable to continue working at their same job. They felt like 65 was so far off. Thankfully they were able to find another less physically demanding fulltime job with benefits at a newer company that had just started that they now enjoy and see themselves working past 65.

Posted by: GO | February 11, 2010, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

Let’s see … “a voucher for private insurance” instead of Medicare. Come on Paul, who are you trying to kid? Go to the very industry that is screwing us over on regular health care costs and premiums. Now, this isn’t called polticial pandering to Corporate America at its worst? Why should we not allow the government (and its larhe constituency), instead, negotiate
health care costs? Does no one but me see evil intent and corporate toadyism here? posted by CND FOX
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Actually, what you are seeing is the Republican Party ‘pandering’ to (mostly) younger Americans who do not want to pay into Social Security because they believe they are smart enough to manage their own investments and earn a higher return. These folks want to keep what they would pay into Social Security so they have more to invest.
I wouldn’t do it; I think it is foolish AND selfish….but that’s my personal opinion.

Posted by: malcat | February 11, 2010, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

These folks want to keep what they would pay into Social Security so they have more to invest.
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Also so that it’s theirs- you can call it selfish if you like. However, they can accrue savings and give it to whomever they choose, whenever they choose. If I work until my 70′s but have been putting $ into SS since my teens then I’m probably not going to get back all I’ve put in but maybe I can leave it to my grandkids or anyone else if I want that doesn’t happen with SS. Call me selfish.
Also if I were putting money into a bank to invest for later and that bank says oops sorry we’ve used your money to pay other things so now there’s nothing left of what you’ve put into your account (which is where SS is headed). SS has been used to take $ for other gov’t things and it’s insolvency is a real issue to younger folks. You might call it pandering but some of us what some real discussion about how to address this especially with a government that’s mandating we keep paying it and projecting unsustainable budgets.

Posted by: GO | February 11, 2010, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

GO, Yes, anytime one tries to look into the future, some assumptions are necessary. I base my assumptions on my view of current conditions, and how I think conditions will change over time.
The statements I made in my earlier post were based on the assumption that population growth would trend upward at a significant rate based on live births AND immigration (legal and illegal) AND the accepted statistical view that life expectency will remain constant or increase. There is also the fact that many women continue bearing children longer now. Result is more people seeking employment.
I also assumed that job availability (hopefully) will increase, but no where near the rate to match population growth. I did so taking into consideration an economy under continued stress for some time. A vicious cycle is in place: people have less disposable money so they buy less services and goods; demand being low means employers must cut staff which means fewer jobs; fewer people working means people have less disposable money..and on and on.
Another factor concerns jobs leaving the US. Unless the federal government takes STRONG measures to stop corporations moving jobs out of the country; the number of jobs added by small and moderate businesses will not be enough to meet the growing demand for employment.
Job availability is also adversely impacted by increased use of technology. People applaud technology because ‘it increases efficiency and lowers costs’, failing to consider that those 2 benefits of technology usually mean fewer humans are necessary.
Our economy is an extremely complex and often fragile creature. There are NO quick fixes, and every ‘fix’ we implement may well ‘unfix’ something else.

Posted by: malcat | February 11, 2010, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

Republicans have no independent thought process of their own. They all spout the same things, over and over, year after year. Is there anything in their arsenal besides tax cuts, do away with Medicare, privitize Social Security and Tort Reform? Is that all they’ve got? These people are so clueless hence our current situation. Lemmings, every last one of them.

Posted by: pamp205 | February 11, 2010, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

Compliments to almost all of you. I don’t agree with everyone, but I enjoyed reading an intelligent conversation making good points on both sides of these issues. It is much better than the usual name calling and sterotyping.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | February 11, 2010, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

I am not in favor of expending retirement age unless the bill also states that the government cannot use the money paid into SS for other things. While raising the age will help in theory, I don’t think it will improve the situation if government is just going to spend the surplus from those extra five years on other parts of the budget or pork barrel.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | February 11, 2010, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

GO, I apologize if my use of the word pandering upset you. I put it in quotes because of a post that claimed the Republicans were pandering to another group.
I call wanting to pull out of Social Security selfish because the concept of SS is spreading the costs over the largest possible population. Some will draw more because they live longer, some will draw less because they die sooner. Some won’t draw anything because they die before they become eligible. It sounds heartless, but that’s how it is with insurance of any kind….spread the risk.
I also consider it selfish because many (not all, not even most) will goof up in their investments, run out of money before they die and will have to turn to the government (aka taxpayers) to support them. They paid nothing in, but now they need help.
I call it foolish because of the last paragraph; let’s face it: investing is a gamble. Some win..some don’t.
I’m a very cautious person. If I were a man, I would wear a belt AND suspenders ;-)
And I agree completely with you on the issue of government raiding Social Security…been going on for YEARS. I’m 59 now; my first job at age 18 was working in a mental hospital in the department managing patients’ accounts. The federal government decided all mental patients would receive a monthly check of $42 from SS whether they OR their parents ever paid a dime into the Fund. I still get angry when I think of that.
Because of my age, I won’t be eligible for full benefits until I’m 67; I have NO confidence that SS will be there for me.

Posted by: malcat | February 11, 2010, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Now I will throw out a crazy idea, which means I haven’t thought it completely through. What if people qualified for SS between 65 and 70 if they do volunteer work or 10 hrs a week or 520 hours per year. Number of hours is just a wild guess. This would greatly benefit many good non-profit organizations that help people. If could be hospital care, meals on wheels, tutoring or mentoring children and teens. After 70, no one is required to do volunteer work, but many may like it and want to continue. Another option might be day care provider for your grandkids with some type of stipulation of how many hours per week or year. This seems like a win for everyone.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | February 11, 2010, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

MikeMo1947, I couldn’t agree more! Social Security AND Medicare Funds should be off-limits. Those are Funds set up as promises to the American people.

Posted by: malcat | February 11, 2010, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Now I will throw out a crazy idea…
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Interesting. Never underestimate crazy ideas– they lead to thinking outside the box and coming up with workable solutions that aren’t just retreads (though I tend to agree with chunks of– or maybe my own version of chunks of– what malcat and CND fox have posted)

Posted by: progressve mama | February 11, 2010, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

MikeMo1947, I normally loathe this phrase and refuse to use it, but you deserve it: you do think outside-the-box. And I mean that in a good way.
On the first read, it sounds OK, but there are some legal issues. What you are suggesting is mandatory labor of a specific age-group. I can only imagine the wrath of AARP! But then I’m rather ticked off at them so I would enjoy the floor show.
It would probably have to be instituted for people who have not yet begun paying into the program.
I mean if one has been paying into the program for a few years expecting to retire at 67 (like me) and suddenly you learn you have to work part-time to get the benefits you have worked for, YIPES!
Probably would require amending the Social Security Act itself.
But then, some groups say that people on welfare or Medicaid should have to volunteer in order to get their benefits.
It would be very interesting to see it debated in Congress.

Posted by: malcat | February 11, 2010, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

It is refreshing that a republican may have an original idea not taken from some old idealogical philosophy that hasn’t worked in the past. Imagine if Social Security had been privatized like the republicans had wanted before the fiscal melt down. It would have been disastrous for millions of Americans. Please lets not rekindle these same tired old notions that haven’t worked in the past and could lead to extreme civil strife.

Posted by: Chuck | February 11, 2010, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

The people that have worked and paid into Social Secuirty and medicare for 45 years or more DESERVE to draw what they have earned! No one needs to be spending, borrowing or even TOUCHING that money, but they have been spending the money for years thinking it would be easy to put it back, now they see it is not. Leave it alone!!!

Posted by: TXAR.55 | February 11, 2010, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

The volunteering is an iteresting idea, especially if you incentivized it to get around some legal issues and give people broad choices to suit personality, temperment and ability. I would like to see more choices in the structure and certainly volunteering would be one.
Malcat’s point about SS is also a good one although you forgot the group of people who may have wisely invested and a wretch duped them (Madoff comes to mind). I understand the importance of security I just think there could be more flexibility and greater input from the individual (should they choose) as to how they want to responsibly handle that. Yes some people will be foolish but to say to everyone because there are foolish people we are going to treat you all like fools and apply those same things to you is limiting. I also think if people are going to be that irresponsible they are probably being paid under the table anyway so they are still gaming the system.
I actually do think people in a mental hospital would fall into the group that can’t provide for themselves fully although why they were getting money from SS (unless it was disability) while they were in a place where most things are provided seems odd. It would be even more odd if it were a government run hospital.
Anyway I think the government run by different political groups has been IRRESPONSIBLE with things they mandate we entrust them with and I am glad to see someone like Rep Ryan stepping up and seeing that responsibility and trying to put forth ideas that own up to that responsibility. Frankly before I would trust them to encroach any further into people’s lives they should show they are responsible with these things already otherwise we would be stupid to allow them any more. I’m sure those people who invested with Madoff would never invest with him again and be careful with anyone else. The fed government should have that same standard applied to them.

Posted by: GO | February 11, 2010, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm

My opinion is that SS entry age must be indexed to average life expectancy. The system was never setup to provide such long term payouts.
I do not believe this system should be privatized. If this melt down taught us anything, it should be that nothing is secure that is in equities.
I also agree with the many that have indicated that SS and Medicare should be lock box programs.
Thank you all for the civil debate.

Posted by: Lou-NH | February 11, 2010, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

It’s difficult for an “adult thinking” Republican (or Democrat) to get anywhere in Washington DC. The cards are stacked against that sort of person. Political favors in exchange for campaign support prevents politicians from “adult” thinking. The GOP cartel works hard to insure it’s members think and act the “right” way. A similar cartel exists with the Democrats, tho it is weaker.
Good luck to Paul Ryan, but don’t hold your breath.

Posted by: KsDevil | February 12, 2010, 8:56 am 8:56 am

I’m a skeptic when it comes to the GOP’s ability to understand economic theory in the modern age. Tax cuts require spending cuts. I agree with Greenspan that Americans are not going to cut spending until a real crisis has arrived (like social security payments being cancelled). Also noted is Ryan’s intent to end Medicare. As the GOP has taken Medicare as its political baby in the healthcare fight, this is true hyposcrisy by the GOP. They needn’t worry, Americans have become too polarized for their party members to call them out on it.

Posted by: Independent1959 | February 12, 2010, 9:50 am 9:50 am

I understand Rep. Judd Gregg has offered an interesting proposal for a cut down health care reform plan which would offer catastrophic care and incentives for people to do things to stay healthy (stop smoking, lose weight, etc.).
I’d like to see more reporting on this. Health care reform is imperative. Otherwise, both the middle class and the nation will be bankrupted by health and health care insurance costs and our overall health will decline.

Posted by: JAB | February 12, 2010, 11:10 am 11:10 am

The hypocrisy in some of these posts is amazing. On one hand some of you accuse the GOP of rehashing tired ideas and then regurgitate the very same thing from the left. It is refreshing to see someone on the right admit that their party did poorly in controlling spending. One of the core values of conservative thinking is small government and fiscal responsibility. However, the very same people who express their gratitude to Mr. Ryan for coming forth say nothing about the level of spending that has occurred under this President or the fact that for the last three years Pelosie and Democrats have had control of the House. Where is the person on the left? How about some admission that it was Democrats who struck down two attempts by the Bush administration to put tighter controls on Fannie an Freddie. Where is the lefts outrage over the nearly $400 billion paid in tax payer money to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Where is the outrage over the continued money dumped into GM and Chrysler. The left is quick to blame corporate America and Wall Street on wasteful spending and risk taking but what about the former. NO, Democrats and the left do not get to claim the high ground on this one. There is plenty of blame to go around on both sides.
Oh, just for the record. Lower taxes have been shown to increase government revenue over time. The Democrats think that if you raise taxes you can spend to your hearts content but any first year economics major can make a case that shows high taxes reduce, not increase, a government’s revenue over time. There is a big difference between deficits caused by tax cuts and deficits from excessive government spending. Only one encourages the economic growth and it isn’t the later.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just one of those Tea Party people you lefties love to despise and continue to underestimate. See you in November.

Posted by: itguy | February 12, 2010, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

Republicans, unlike Democrats, tend to accept their responsibility for what goes wrong.

Posted by: Ron | February 12, 2010, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

First we need to get rid of all the Politicans that are not fiscal responsible,all the porkus spenders,on both sides.Reduce spending and put the idea of responsibilty for ones self back on the people and get it off the governments back. Take personal responsibilty for your health,your education and your job,get off your lazy ### and get to work.

Posted by: stormerF2 | February 13, 2010, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Starting in 1981, the Republican Party deliberately drove up the national debt to end social security, medicare, and a host of other programs that aid the middle class. This could be viewed as treason (where are you Ann Coulter when we need you?). Don’t take my word, read those of David Stockman. Why? An impoverished middle class is easier to control, and that’s what conservatism is all about. Conservatism here, in the old Soviet Union, China and other places is UGLY!

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