By Jonathan Blakely

Feb 22, 2010 8:09am

President Hopes Health Care Reform Summit Will ‘Cleanse’ Health Care Reform Bill, Process

A senior White House official tells ABC News that one of the president’s goals for this week is to “cleanse” the health care reform bill and process.


First, as ABC News previously reported, the president will today post the Senate health care reform bill and changes he would like to make to it — such as stripping out special deals like the so-called “Cornhusker compromise,” the deal secured by Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., for the federal government to pay for his state’s Medicaid expansion as required by the bill.


Second, Thursday’s bipartisan health care reform summit will be televised on C-SPAN.


The president acknowledged in an interview with ABC News’ Diane Sawyer last month that not living up to his pledge as a presidential candidate to have the health care reform negotiations televised on C-SPAN was “a mistake that I made during the course of the year.”


“We had to make so many decisions quickly in a very difficult set of circumstances that after awhile, we started worrying more about getting the policy right than getting the process right,” the president said. “But I had campaigned on process. Part of what I had campaigned on was changing how Washington works, opening up transparency and I think it is — I think the health care debate as it unfolded legitimately raised concerns not just among my opponents, but also amongst supporters that we just don’t know what’s going on. And it’s an ugly process and it looks like there are a bunch of back room deals.”


The White House argues that GOP ideas have already been incorporated into the Senate legislation, much of which was negotiated with three Senate Republicans — Sens. Mike Enzi of Wyoming, Chuck Grassley of Iowa, and Olympia Snowe of Maine — but clearly it is also a goal of Thursday’s bipartisan summit for the public to see the president reaching across the aisle.


Among the fixes to the Senate bill that the president is proposal are “an additional series of measures proposed by Republicans to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse,” a White House official says. “The President believes the bipartisan discussion on Thursday will be the most productive if Democrats come to the table with a consolidated proposal – what he’s releasing today –  and he hopes the Republicans will follow suit and come with their own unified proposal. He’ll be open to Republican ideas, and he hopes they’ll be open to ours.”


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-jpt



 

User Comments

O. should have started with a “clean” bill in January 2009. It’s very late, though not too late, to pick up the pieces now. Good luck to all of us.

Posted by: sophillyfats | February 22, 2010, 8:31 am 8:31 am

Wonder why a “clean process” involving the Chicago thugs in the WH and the Pelosi-Reidocrat Congress wasn’t just initiated last year.
Only after the Democrats lost significant political battles did they then suddenly concede that they should have approached it differently (or not at all).
Too late.

Posted by: Good Lt. | February 22, 2010, 8:41 am 8:41 am

God he is ineffectual. All posturing. Willing to throw every other Democrat under the bus so he can “win” with a hugely bad bill. Not sure we can make it to 2012…

Posted by: liz | February 22, 2010, 8:44 am 8:44 am

Obama plan ‘raises the percent of income assessment that individuals pay if they choose not to become insured’… Developing…
BACKDOOR FIX: ‘Funds will be transferred to the Social Security Trust Funds’…
PRESIDENT’S ‘HEALTHCARE’ PROPOSAL SUMMARY USES WORD ‘TAX’ 35 TIMES…
‘Increase in Fees on Brand Name Pharmaceuticals’…
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OBAMA LIAR>>>>>> ABC SILENT

Posted by: another crisis-another photo op | February 22, 2010, 8:48 am 8:48 am

The Republican will never work with the Democates. They need to vote on the health care bill with or without thier votes.

Posted by: jara | February 22, 2010, 9:01 am 9:01 am

I hope that the republicans and democrats come to the table with great ideas and stop this, “we will not agree to anything” attitude. People are losing thier homes, jobs and savings while certain individuals in D.C. play politics. The majority voted for change. As I remember it both parties said they were for change. What happened?

Posted by: Marion | February 22, 2010, 9:15 am 9:15 am

>>The Republican will never work with the Democates. They need to vote on the health care bill with or without thier votes.
…and they’ll get all the blame when the bill destroys the health care system. ALL OF IT.
pass this monstrosity without GOP support. Hell – they could have made a three-legged elephant prime minister of America with their supermajority if they wanted to, and the GOP was powerless to stop them.
They instead spent the year trying to get political cover by claiming the effort was “bipartisan.” It never was. It was the Democrats way or the highway. When this monstrosity of a terrible bill actually starts hitting Americans and their wallets and they feel the bite, the Democrats would immediately have become the “Party of Blame Republicans.” To whit, that’s not much different than what they are today, but the difference is that the GOP didn’t go along with it this time. They rejected and refused to go down with Obama’s ship.
And that has the Democrats seething mad, because there is nobody left to blame now but themselves.
This whole exercise is a good argument against excessive government intervention into private affairs and into the private economy. Look at what a politicized, clusterfarking boondoggle this whole process has been. Do you want those clods making life-and-death decisions for your or your loved ones? How about taking a higher percentage of your salary each year?
I don’t, and neither do the majority of Americans. Change is coming.

Posted by: Good Lt. | February 22, 2010, 9:18 am 9:18 am

Just how much more time is going to be wasted on this dead issue, while nothing is being done to create jobs for people?
Create jobs for people, and that will help to provide health care for them, as well.
Obama is beginning to look like a total jerk, who can’t stand to address the real needs in this country, if it conflicts with his personal pet project, which no one else, really cares about.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | February 22, 2010, 9:22 am 9:22 am

If this meeting is about going over
ideas and options, how can the Dems over
the weekend pretty much state what will
be in the bill and how they hope to
achieve it. Does not sound open minded
and willing to talk about it. This whole
thing is a sham.

Posted by: wis134 | February 22, 2010, 9:23 am 9:23 am

Obama tops Bush at ducking reporters; No formal press conference in 215 days…
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Why is he hiding????????

Posted by: another crisis-another photo op | February 22, 2010, 9:25 am 9:25 am

Climate scientists withdraw claims of rising sea levels…
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1st the glacier lies.. now this… ITS ALL A HOAX

Posted by: another crisis-another photo op | February 22, 2010, 9:27 am 9:27 am

“…not living up to his pledge as a presidential candidate to have the health care reform negotiations televised on C-SPAN was “a mistake that I made during the course of the year.”
But Gibbs said Obama had lived up to his pledge. Or at least, Gibbs deflected the question by lying out his arse.
When will HE go?

Posted by: Denbo | February 22, 2010, 9:31 am 9:31 am

Hey Marion, how about talking about JOBS instead of this Healthcare bill. Oh never mind the Left is fighting trench warfare and have dug in.

Posted by: Denbo | February 22, 2010, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Healthcare reform should have been done months ago. But instead we have to piddle around with republicans. WHY??!!! These people have done nothing but obstruct and delay reform. Howard Dean was right when he said that Bush would have had HC reform completed by now. We need to get this done and over with and quit trying to save republican feeling. Do you think they would do the same?? Obama needs to get off the fence and start leading or he may have a democratic challenger come next election cycle.

Posted by: hadit | February 22, 2010, 9:46 am 9:46 am

Why is the government trying to start new instead of fixing the old. Medicare can work as a national health care if they over hauled it and making it work like a regular insurance company. It would take a lot less then the money they are wasting to start up something new. It is already in place some changes would be required, especially removing it from political friends.
The same idea would work for Social Security. Fund both like an insurance company and with the money made by the fund (money put into a pool with a couple of financial advisors properly investing it) and the money taken from each citizen would support a national health program and Social Security. Both programs are poorly run by our elected government which only worries about re-election not our well being.

Posted by: Dan | February 22, 2010, 9:58 am 9:58 am

Any Health Care Reform without Tort Reform as a Key element is a Waste-o-Time™.
If President NoBo wants to pass health care reform with Bipartisan support then he should incorporate the Republican Tort reform ideas.
Only if and when that happens will we have a chance to cut costs, something the American Public truly supports and is waiting for Washington DC to do.

Posted by: Noz | February 22, 2010, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Any Health Care Reform without Tort Reform as a Key element is a Waste-o-Time™.
If President NoBo wants to pass health care reform with Bipartisan support then he should incorporate the Republican Tort reform ideas.
Only if and when that happens will we have a chance to cut costs, something the American Public truly supports and is waiting for Washington DC to do.

Posted by: Noz | February 22, 2010, 10:12 am 10:12 am

SWALLOW: White House Warns Republicans: We’ll Pass Health Reform Via Reconciliation…
BACKDOOR FIX: Healthcare ‘Funds will be transferred to the Social Security Trust’ if necessary…
PRESIDENT’S ‘HEALTHCARE’ PROPOSAL SUMMARY USES WORD ‘TAX’ 35 TIMES…
‘Increase in Fees on Brand Name Pharmaceuticals’…
Broaden ‘Tax Base for High-Income Taxpayers’…
Orders ‘Comprehensive Database’ On Health Claims…
FORCED: ‘Raises percent of income assessment that individuals pay if they choose not to become insured’…
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Obama…. dictator?

Posted by: another crisis-another photo op | February 22, 2010, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Why are the liars on this forum blaming REPUBLICANS for the Healthcare issue. The Dems HAD the majority and your OWN PEOPLE stopped it.
Please stop it or are blatant lies part of the Democrat Party mantra?

Posted by: Denbo | February 22, 2010, 10:29 am 10:29 am

BIGGER, BOLDER, MORE TAX, MORE DATABASE: OBAMA IN NEW HEALTHCARE BLOWOUT
—————————————- Thursdays meeting event is just for show.. OBama as his socialist band of thieves will Rahm this down the peoples throat….

Posted by: another crisis-another photo op | February 22, 2010, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Give me a break! Evan Bayh’s wife is on the board of directors at Wellpoint? Wow! Hey, is independent journalism now completely dead? Why is it that commentators’ and pundits’ opinions now supersede the facts in journalistic importance? Why do I have to hear this BIG little tidbit first from Bill Maher? Is he the only independent commentator left in the great US of A.?
Can you guys please at least disclose the name of the person or group that is paying for each opinion that you express?
Facts please! Then I can form my own opinion, and I have.
Andy

Posted by: Andy | February 22, 2010, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

WE DO NOT WANT “GOVERNMENT-RUN” HEALTH CARE. I bitterly resent what this party’s leadership has been doing this past year AND since 2006 when they took control of Congress. They’ve lied, deceived, contradicted and engaged in such actions as to be criminal. They’ve looked down upon the American people with such arrogant conceit and even went so far as to dismiss the millions who have spoken out against their policies. I do NOT believe nor trust anything they say. They say what we want to hear, for one purpose only: to get themselves re-elected. There can be only one response: Vote them all out of office! NO MORE! They all need to go in 2010 and 2012. We need to elect people who will work for us and not against us.

Posted by: This Corrupt Administration Will Destroy America! | February 22, 2010, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

Obama is a narcissist incapable of feeling the pain of the unemployed.
Why does he ignore jobs to keep going back to health care?
Because HC is his legacy.
He will sign any HC bill in the end,just to have bragging rights.

Posted by: larry | February 22, 2010, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

I hope Obama, Pelosi, Reid attempt reconcilliation.
Let them go against the will of the people and see what happens next.
Any Dem that votes for that should get the full wrath of the people.

Posted by: ollie | February 22, 2010, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

I think American needs to “cleanse” the white house of the Obamas.

Posted by: mjishernameo | February 22, 2010, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

Why does he ignore jobs to keep going back to health care?

Why do the Republicans ignore jobs to keep going back to… doing nothing?? The House has already stepped up, as has the President.

Posted by: progressive mama | February 22, 2010, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

I think American needs to “cleanse” the white house of the Obamas.
Posted by: mjishernameo | Feb 22, 2010 1:19:35 PM
Oh fun. Let’s all weigh in. I think America needs to “cleanse” the Congress of obstructionist rank and file Republicans with no ideas.
Vote Dem or Independent and get some people in with ideas and guts who aren’t scared to death of addressing chronic issues!

Posted by: progressive mama | February 22, 2010, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

PM: don’t you have something to do at the house, like get michelles mail or something?

Posted by: mjishernameo | February 22, 2010, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Posted by: progressive mama | Feb 22, 2010 1:25:32 PM
I’m with you progressive mama – the only tactic the Republicans have is to say ‘no’ to everything, whine and complain, attack, and gloat over the right wing fear mongering and smear campaign against the Democrats. We saw the Republicans in power under Bush and Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Gonzalez and that lot.
We know exactly who the liars are.

Posted by: tierra | February 22, 2010, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

WE DO NOT WANT “GOVERNMENT-RUN” HEALTH CARE.
Well then, you’re in luck as government-run health insurance isn’t on the table — rather, we’re talking about (1)state insurance exchanges where consumers can shop for quality products, (2)consumer protections assuring that insurers can’t deny people coverage and create a situation where only the healthy can truly afford health insurance, (3) a mandate to assure people have to purchase insurance and can’t wait until they’re sick, (4)subsidies so that the poor can afford to be among the insured, and (5) pilot programs that tackle the issue of medical inflation and escalating health care costs.

Posted by: progressive mama | February 22, 2010, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

don’t you have something to do at the house…
Posted by: mjishernameo | Feb 22, 2010 1:35:40 PM
Unfortunately for you, mj, I have an injury and will probably be on here more than usual for a couple more days as it amuses me and it has fewer calories than chocolate.

Posted by: progressive mama | February 22, 2010, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

Obama and the Democratic leadership on continuing to bully through on this bill is infuriating.
By not moving on, these guys have forfeited any trust I can have on this issue, and I refuse to consider ANY other Health Care Reform bill that they might offer up.
And what do we get now anyway? Yet another back-room document, lacking any transparency and not even seen by our Democratic representatives!
C-Span needed to be in the room while this latest Frankenstein was being created, not in the few hours tomorrow where the finished beast parades around.
What an ugly farce. What an insult to the American process.
This bill died in August. It died again in November and again during the holidays and again in January in Massachusetts. I guess this time we need to put a stake through its heart and bury it at the crossroads.
KILL THIS ZOMBIE BILL DEAD.

Posted by: Carol | February 22, 2010, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

What an ugly farce. What an insult to the American process.
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Nonsense. Up until this President, the “American process” was that almost everything was done behind closed doors.

Posted by: tierra | February 22, 2010, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

oh, whiplash i guess. disability and a lawsuit I presume. That’s nice.

Posted by: mjishernameo | February 22, 2010, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

We know exactly who the liars are.
Posted by: tierra

The 35% of this country that support the health plan are lying?

Posted by: smartlillena | February 22, 2010, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

oh, whiplash i guess. disability and a lawsuit I presume. That’s nice.
Posted by: mjishernameo | Feb 22, 2010 2:05:13 PM
Those who presume typically sound like the know-nothings they are.
So, where is the Republican plan? Posted yet? No?
Meanwhile, let’s hope the admin has cleared up the messaging issue. Per Newsweek:
“When asked about Obama’s plan (without being given any details about what the legislation includes), 49 percent opposed it and 40 percent were in favor. But after hearing key features of the legislation described, 48 percent supported the plan and 43 percent remained opposed.
The NEWSWEEK Poll asked respondents about eight health-care-reform provisions that Obama and many Democrats in Congress have generally supported. It found that the majority of Americans supported five of those provisions, three by particularly large margins. Eighty-one percent agreed with the creation of a new insurance marketplace, the exchange, for individual subscribers to compare plans and buy insurance at a competitive rate. Seventy-six percent thought health insurers should be required to cover anyone who applies, including those with preexisting conditions; and 75 percent agreed with requiring most businesses to offer health insurance to their employees, with incentives for small-business owners to do so.”

Posted by: progressive mama | February 22, 2010, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

Tierra says: Up until this President, the “American process” was that almost everything was done behind closed doors.
Oh, I see, so Obama’s back-room tyranny is justified, since they all did it. In fact, he goes even better, and doubles-down on the closed-door thing, smashing together the most comprehensive, far-reaching monster in history using these means. Thank you for straightening me out, I feel so happy about this beast bill now.
And on your comment that “We know exactly who the liars are,” yes, Tierra, we certainly do.

Posted by: Carol | February 22, 2010, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

So, where is the Republican plan?

They’d better not be foolish enough to give them anything remotely resembling a “plan”. Obama has 51 votes, let him pass his own plan. He’s going to anyway.
Why is this man destroying the democrats? Foolish.

Posted by: smartlillena | February 22, 2010, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

And on your comment that “We know exactly who the liars are,” yes, Tierra, we certainly do.
Posted by: Carol | Feb 22, 2010 2:26:52 PM
Yep, they’re the Republicans, who are the ones who balked big time about opening up the summit after the House Republicans were shown up big time in their meeting with the President.
Also see “Republican hypocrisy on stimulus funds” — its rampant.
As for transparency, the President is moving in the right direction, has admitted mistakes and corrected course, stripping the Cornhusker kickback so that the proposal instead “seeks to do away with unbalanced Medicaid assistance for states by providing 100 percent federal support for newly eligible individuals between 2014 and 2017, 95 percent support from 2018 to 2019 and 90 percent support from 2020 onward.” (the hill)

Posted by: progressive mama | February 22, 2010, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

Up until this President, the “American process” was that almost everything was done behind closed doors.
Oh, I see, so Obama’s back-room tyranny is justified, since they all did it. In fact, he goes even better, and doubles-down on the closed-door thing
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Nonsense. This bill received more coverage that any bill in history. Versions were posted on the internet for all and everybody to examine, there were open public town halls, committees were covered on C-SPAN and so on . . .
This President is the FIRST to push things further into the open. Your failure to acknowledge that speaks more about your bias than actual facts – or the truth.

Posted by: tierra | February 22, 2010, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

Y’all keep cheering him on, it’s the democrats’ deficit funded funeral. The only way obama could screw it up worse is by inviting Al Gore to the “summit”.

Posted by: smartlillena | February 22, 2010, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Nonsense.

That monstrosity was supposed to be available to the public 72 hours before congress voted on it. The house and the senate. Remember? Senate republicans didn’t even see it 72 hours before they were to vote on it. Not even democrats saw the bill they were to vote on. Aside from Reid and a handful of his leftenants, the only people to see that bill were members of the Congressional Budget Committee.
CNN finally put them on the spot about their promises of transparency.
So, Nonsense.

Posted by: smartlillena | February 22, 2010, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Senate republicans didn’t even see it 72 hours before they were to vote on it. Not even democrats saw the bill they were to vote on. Aside from Reid and a handful of his leftenants, the only people to see that bill were members of the Congressional Budget Committee.
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Again, this is nonsense. Some last minute changes were made, but the bulk of the bill was CERTAINLY available and had been for quite a while.
This is the first time these sorts of bills have been made so open to public scrutiny, and we have this President to thank for that.

Posted by: tierra | February 22, 2010, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

Tierra says: “Some last minute changes were made, but the bulk of the bill was CERTAINLY available and had been for quite a while.”
What America knows about this bill is exactly why it failed to get through a supermajority DC in August, in November, and in December.
It is insane in its scope and misguided in its thrust, and if this federal enslavement is actually inflicted on the nation, generations to come will only have the Democratic Party to blame for the wreckage.

Posted by: Carol | February 22, 2010, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

Posted by: smartlillena | Feb 22, 2010 3:09:11 PM
Funny. The Sunlight Foundation remembers it differently:
“The Senate’s version of the health care bill was published on Wednesday, along with its CBO score.
Since the first preliminary procedural vote isn’t expected until Saturday evening, it looks likely that the Senate’s bill will see 72 hours in public, online, before its first vote.
…As I suggested after Speaker Pelosi’s commitment and delivery on their 72 hour promise, if they can do it for health care — the toughest and most contentious of contexts — they can do it for every bill.”
Also, if I remember correctly you could even go to websites and listen to it being read aloud.
Team Tierra!

Posted by: progressive mama | February 22, 2010, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Yeah, y’all are right about that. Darn, my honest mistake could have just changed my mind about the whole issue. I’m starting to want my insurance company to go belly-up so I can buy from Obama’s company. Now 35% of this country -plus one- is in favor of this fiasco!

Posted by: smartlillena | February 22, 2010, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Now 35% of this country -plus one- is in favor of this fiasco!

According to plumline

Posted by: smartlillena | February 22, 2010, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

According to plumline
Posted by: smartlillena | Feb 22, 2010 4:39:35 PM
Yes, and while you’re there check out the polling on the public option, something “the people” clearly want as well as this tidbit on jobs:
“Senior Senate GOP aides tell me they think a handful of GOP Senators will end up supporting the Dem bill later this afternoon, getting it over the 60-vote hurdle needed to move to the next stage.
The bill that will be voted on later today is a slimmed-down jobs package that includes a one-year Social Security tax break for business that hire workers out of work for two months, as well as various other write-offs and funding for infrastructure projects.
That bill was introduced by Reid after he killed an earlier, fatter measure that had been negotiated with bipartisan support. When Reid killed that version, Republicans vowed that it wouldn’t pass, and as of yesterday, no GOPers had publicly said they’d support it.
Reid pushed forward anyway, challenging Republicans to vote against job creation, and now senior GOP aides say he may be on the verge of prevailing on today’s “cloture” vote.”
That would be a refreshing change of pace, as jobs are important. The Republicans haven’t given a hoot up till now. We all remember Eric Cantor’s ridiculous “magic pony show.” Sargent notes, Republicans could be gaming expectations, as nothing is too low for them (that last clause is my own addition).

Posted by: progressive mama | February 22, 2010, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

It would be nice if for once, Obama was willing to bring some Democratic proposals to the table for a change.

Posted by: Flash Override | February 22, 2010, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

I highly suggest that you introduce your Republican representatives to become familiar with thomasocgov. Maybe if they started reading the bills, they wouldn’t complain that they haven’t read the bills.

Posted by: Flash Override | February 22, 2010, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

That bill was introduced by Reid after he killed an earlier, fatter measure that had been negotiated with bipartisan support.

Your blogster was cute in disguising that knife Reid stuck in Republicans backs earlier. Shock. They were fools to believe a word he said. Shock. But he’s playing politics now. Shock. Dems never do that though. Uh, wait a minute, yes they do. Just like your blogster doesn’t even trust his own poll – “if you can believe this poll” – plumline. Public Option can be created on it’s own. But it’s not viable on it’s own and there’s no way in hell Obama wants voters to see how much it would actually cost.

Posted by: smartlillena | February 22, 2010, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Posted by: smartlillena | Feb 22, 2010 5:19:09 PM
Looks like Brown plans to vote with the Dems on the jobs bill , and will release this statement:
“I came to Washington to be an independent voice, to put politics aside, and to do everything in my power to help create jobs for Massachusetts families. This Senate jobs bill is not perfect. I wish the tax cuts were deeper and broader, but I will vote for it because it contains measures that will help put people back to work.”
I commend him for that if he keeps his word. We need to break up this gridlock and finally move on jobs.

Posted by: progressive mama | February 22, 2010, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

It would be nice if for once, Obama was willing to bring some Democratic proposals to the table for a change.
Posted by: Flash Override

Obama is content sacrificing Reid and the dems at the deficit funding altar. His “around 50% approval” can’t withstand any active participation by him.

Posted by: smartlillena | February 22, 2010, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

I see politics as usual. Point the finger. Poles and statics can be made to say what the person arranging the figures want then to say. The cost of any health care plan at this time will be too much. Once again get your heads out of the sand and think for yourself. It appears no one wants to think for them selves and just believe the garbage they are being fed.
Once again repair what is in place, Medicare, wait a minute that would mean everyone is wrong and no one wants to think. When someone says it can’t be done it means someone is lazy. With someone who knows what they are doing, not someone who is told what they are suppose to do, what is in place can be fixed and cost less in the long run. Using tax money constantly to fund something is mismanagement. Look at Social Security if you want an example. If it was run right the U.S. budget being passed would not make a difference. Right now it does and points out mismanagement by itself.
Hide the health care plan and get it passed. That would show stupidity on the part of Congress if they do that. To get a country of sheep being led to the slaughter it took getting people to go to the sciences for college and not liberal arts which made you think. As much as I disliked the action of students during the 60′s and 70′s at least they thought for themselves.

Posted by: Dan | February 23, 2010, 8:15 am 8:15 am

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