Signs of Life: Congress Stirs, And Health Care Has a Pulse
By Rick Klein This shot does not come with a score (at least not this week). But it puts some points on the board nonetheless. By releasing his own health care plan — and making it a broad one, if not a bipartisan one — President Obama succeeded in getting the conversation going again. After weeks of confusion interrupted only by despair, there’s a path for health care reform, albeit a narrow and dangerous one. The policy has advanced, and so have the politics: Republicans are playing a little defense again, and having 41 defenders may not be enough after all. Almost lost in the coverage of the new plan (which is really the old, Senate-passed plan, just a little more expensive and a little less ugly) is the fact that the White House is now on board for reconciliation. That means even those glimmers of bipartisanship stoked by Sen. Scott Brown, R-Mass., on Monday won’t have to ignite for a bill to become law. Under this scenario, it’s now about the House — which is better than having it be about the Senate, and much better than having it be about nothing at all. (Getting 217 won’t be easy — and it won’t be pleasant for the dozens of members who’d rather see health care done with entirely — but it’s not as impossible as 60 would be in the Senate.) Yes, this means Republicans can complain that the president isn’t playing fair. But that assumes that Thursday’s summit was about fair play in the first place, in a scenario where there was never a realistic hope of getting something that would include Republican buy-in.
It has the White House on offense going into Thursday’s summit: “The president’s proposal is striking for the extent to which it hews to the basic scale and framework of the bills on which Congress has toiled for months,”Anne E. Kornblut and Michael D. Shear report. “White House advisers said they concluded weeks ago that there was still a narrow path to legislative and political victory — either by securing a modest amount of bipartisan support at a live, televised summit on Thursday or, more likely, by using parliamentary maneuvers to pass the legislation in the Senate without needing 60 votes. On Capitol Hill, it took longer to come to accept that view.” Endgame: “Mr. Obama set in motion a new round of maneuvering intended to bring a bitterly divisive yearlong clash to a conclusion,” Sheryl Gay Stolberg and David M. Herszenhorn write in The New York Times. “More than a specific policy prescription, the measure is a gamble by a president trying to keep his top legislative priority alive.” The truths: “White House officials [Monday] publicly made it clear that should Thursday’s bipartisan health care reform summit not result in a legislative kumbaya,” ABC’s Jake Tapper reports. “Democrats are likely to pursue a legislative path for finishing up the bill that includes using controversial ‘reconciliation’ rules in the Senate, requiring a majority vote instead of the 60-vote threshold that has become par for the course.” The dares: “What you can’t do just yet is read about the Republicans’ consensus plan –because so far they haven’t announced what proposal they’ll be bringing to the table,” White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer blogs. “As we said today, we’ll be happy to post the Republican plan on our website once they indicate to us which one we should post. We hope they won’t pass up this opportunity to make their case to the American people.” House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., to ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on “Good Morning America” Tuesday: “House Republicans have had a plan posted since the vote in the House in July…. The American people right now are the losers in all of this, because, George, the signals coming out of the White House don’t bode well for positive health care reform.” Obama’s plan, he said, is the “Senate health bill repackaged.” “The president insists on bringing back a bill that the American people have resoundingly rejected,” Cantor said. Any chance of bipartisan compromise with this as a starting point? “There can’t be,” he said. Other truths: “The real goal here has to be to resolve differences among Democrats,” Democratic strategist Paul Begala tells the Los Angeles Times’ Noam N. Levey. Where we were always going to end up? “The Democratic leadership in Congress has only one rational course of action: Pass the thing, and quickly, or risk becoming the loyal minority,” Eugene Robinson writes in his Washington Post column. GOP pushback — Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, in a USA Today op-ed.: “Instead of taking the enormous health care tax-and-spend bill off the table, the president largely endorsed it. This is like throwing a fresh coat of paint onto a condemned building and calling it fixed.” Since they own the votes anyway, even if they don’t yet have a law to show for them… “President Barack Obama’s health-care proposal is a victory for those in the White House who want to press ahead with ambitious legislation over those who counseled scaling it back,” Laura Meckler and Jonathan Weisman report in The Wall Street Journal. Scott Brown? Scott Brown who? “The president’s plan retains most of the major elements of a bill the Senate passed on Christmas Eve, including an expansion of insurance to cover 30 million Americans who lack insurance, government subsidies to help them afford it, and a combination of new taxes and spending reductions to cover the $950 billion price tag,” The Boston Globe’sLisa Wangsness and Susan Milligan write. Then there’s the little matter of getting to 217: “House Speaker Nancy Pelosi stopped short of endorsing Obama’s plan, which largely draws on legislation the Senate passed in December,” Bloomberg’s Kristin Jensen and Laura Litvan report . “At least one House Democrat said he’ll fight to eliminate a new tax on high-end health benefits. And some Democrats may vote against what they see as lax controls on federal funding for abortion.” Other less convenient truths: “What he released on Monday is so bare-bones that the Congressional Budget Office said there’s not even enough detail to start working on a cost estimate,” the Washington Times’ Kara Rowland reports. “The administration did not post any bill text on the White House Web site, instead offering a detailed outline of what the legislation would do.” From the CBO blog: “CBO cannot provide a cost estimate for the proposal without additional detail, and, even if such detail were provided, analyzing the proposal would be a time-consuming process that could not be completed this week.” “White House adviser Nancy-Ann DeParle estimated that the changes proposed by the White House would increase the cost of the overall health care bill to $950 billion over 10 years, which she said will be offset by additional fees for health providers and penalties on large employers that do not cover their workers,” Patricia Murphy writes for Politics Daily. The Cornhusker Kickback dies — but the Louisiana Purchase and Gator-Aid live, ABC’s Z. Byron Wolf reports. And the tax on high-end health care plans… may never happen: “The imposition of the excise tax will be delayed until 2018, and the threshold at which the tax kicks in will be raised. In reality, the delay turns the tax into another Washington gimmick. Lord, give me virtue, but not yet,” David Brooks writes in his New York Times column. (Also not so convenient at the moment… 22 (going on 23) Democratic senators are calling on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., to put through a public option using reconciliation — though Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., is notably not among them… Plus, a poll written up in Reid’s hometown newspaper suggests it’s in his interest to do so…) Some skepticism, still: “The president is likely to have to settle for much less than he wants — small-bore legislation that would smooth the rough edges of today’s system but stop well short of coverage for nearly everyone,” the AP’s Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar and Erica Werner report. “By day’s end, President Barack Obama was staring down all the same old problems,” Politico’s Carrie Budoff Brown and Patrick O’Connor write. New York Times editorial board – not thrilled, but convinced enough, and relieved to see the president engaged: “We wish he had included a public plan. And we regret that he accepted the Senate’s decision not to require employers to provide insurance. … This may be the last best chance for decades to come to reform the nation’s broken health care system. Mr. Obama and Democratic leaders should fight to win.” Hope you got a receipt with those Scott Brown ’12 bumper stickers … “So much for Scott Brown the Republican savior,” ABC’s Z. Byron Wolf reports. “In his third vote as a Senator, Brown vote against Republicans, helping break a filibuster on a jobs promotion bill crafted by Democrats.” ABC’s Jonathan Karl, on “Good Morning America” Tuesday: “It sends a message that he is from Massachusetts, and this is a guy who from time to time may well work with Democrats.” “The support by Brown and other GOP lawmakers could represent a critical psychological break for the Senate, which has been mired in bitter partisan fights over everything from the massive health care package to uncontroversial presidential nominations,” The Boston Globe’s Susan Milligan writes. “Massachusetts Republican Sen. Scott Brown may have crushed Democrats’ spirits in winning a special election last month, but he’s also helped revive them by providing critical momentum to advance a bipartisan jobs bill that had become entangled in familiar partisan wrangling,” the AP’s Andrew Taylor writes. “With the midterm elections already revving up and the parties facing deep ideological divides over a host of issues, there was no evidence that Monday’s vote was the beginning of a trend,” The New York Times’ Carl Hulse writes. “But after being repeatedly stymied by Republicans on a series of initiatives and nominations over the past months, Democrats were elated with the outcome and expressed gratitude to Republicans who sided with them in cutting off a potential filibuster.” So long as bipartisanship is breaking out… Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., and Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., unveil their tax system overhaul: “We reduce the number of tax brackets from six to three –15%, 25% and 35% — and simplify the tax code for individuals and families by eliminating the alternative minimum tax,” they write in a Wall Street Journal op-ed. “By nearly tripling the standard tax deduction, creating new opportunities for tax-free saving, and eliminating restrictions on personal exemptions and itemized deductions, under our proposal most Americans with an annual income of up to $200,000 will fare as well or better than they do under the current system. Furthermore, they won’t have to worry about maintaining the records and receipts necessary to document itemized deductions.” (Wyden and Gregg will be on ABC’s “Top Line” Tuesday, live at noon ET, with more on this and health care reform efforts.) The other big news on the Hill this week: “Congressional investigators Monday accused Toyota officials of making misleading public statements about the causes of its runaway cars and faulted federal safety regulators for conducting ‘cursory and ineffective’ investigations because of a crippling lack of expertise,” The Washington Post’s Peter Whoriskey and Frank Ahrens report. Reuters, on Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood’s opening statement: “The Obama administration will hold Toyota President Akio Toyoda to his word that the carmaker is working hard to address all safety issues, U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said Tuesday. In an oral statement prepared for delivery to the House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing on Toyota Motor Corp’s big recalls, LaHood said regulators would continue to investigate ‘all possible causes’ of unintended acceleration.” Another new name for 2012: “Just to get them off my back, I agreed to a number of people that I will now stay open to the idea,” Gov. Mitch Daniels, R-Ind., tells The Washington Post’s Dan Balz. Writes Balz: “Among the people he has talked with is former president George W. Bush, though Daniels said it was not that conversation per se that tipped him to reopen a door he had seemingly closed.” It’s been a while since Michael Steele woke up to one of these stories — but not too long: “Republican National Chairman Michael Steele is spending twice as much as his recent predecessors on private planes and paying more for limousines, catering and flowers – expenses that are infuriating the party’s major donors who say Republicans need every penny they can get for the fight to win back Congress,” Politico’s Jeanne Cummings writes. Primary mischief: The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is announcing Tuesday that’s it’s launching a new Website, PalinsPrimaries.com, “to provide Sarah Palin with a guide to the more than 55 competitive House Republican primaries in which to get involved.” “Undeterred by the embarrassing loss she helped bring to House Republicans in last fall’s special election in Upstate New York, Sarah Palin announced she wants to get involved in more Republican primary races this year,” said Jon Vogel, DCCC executive director. Annals of friendship: Former Gov. Mitt Romney, R-Mass., is endorsing Sen. John McCain’s campaign Tuesday morning: “For years, I’ve been an admirer of John McCain. Then we became competitors. Today, I’m proud to call him my friend,” Romney will say, per excerpts provided to The Note. “In my view, it’s hard to imagine the United States Senate without John McCain, especially in the critical times we find ourselves in, with double-digit unemployment, a mountain of debt imperiling future generations and a global terrorist threat from jihadists bent on destroying our very way of life.” McCain, R-Ariz., on Romney: “Governor Romney is among the brightest and most dynamic leaders in our Party, and I am proud to have his support.” RIP, ACORN? Politico’s Ben Smith: “The embattled liberal group ACORN is in the process of dissolving its national structure, with state and local-chapters splitting off from the underfunded, controversial national group, an official close to the group confirmed.” Health scare day: “Former Vice President Dick Cheney is at George Washington University Hospital in Washington tonight after experiencing chest pains,” ABC’s Jonathan Karl and Karen Travers report. “Cheney’s doctors are evaluating the situation and the former vice president is resting comfortably.” And: “Former Sen. Bob Dole (R-Kan.) is recovering at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center after a bout with pneumonia and surgery on his knee,” Politico’s Andy Barr reports. “Dole, the 1996 GOP presidential nominee, has gotten past his struggle with pneumonia and, according to a source, is back to working and making calls from the hospital on behalf of his clients at the law firm Alston & Bird.”
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Republicans may not be happy with the new Obama plan, but they are in no position to boycott Thursday’s meeting. The White House is being very savvy in laying out on the table what would happen without GOP support while at the same time actively courting a GOP alternative, which would of course be completely unrealistic.
Posted by: matt | February 23, 2010, 9:05 am 9:05 am
Strong Public Option or nothing!
Posted by: rightbehind | February 23, 2010, 9:07 am 9:07 am
Not here it doesn’t. It has flat-lined.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | February 23, 2010, 9:17 am 9:17 am
As a physician who has worked in the current “broken” system for 30 years, I feel it is important to point out two things: 1. The Democrats’ financial projections are ludicrous. Amazingly, they don’t include the healthcare industry’s costs to implement the 2700 pages of laws, which would be ballooned by enforcing bureaucracies into many tens or hundreds of thousands of pages of rules and regulations to further complicate and constipate all aspects of our healthcare economy. Those costs are incalculable, certainly many times the $950 BILLION estimate. 2. We now spend 2 to 3 times what we should on healthcare due to Congress’ past blunders of mandating abuse of insurance, and applying Marxist price controls and central bureaucratic management to healthcare. Before that happened, healthcare was less the 5% of GDP, not the 17% it is today. I and all my staff and virtually everyone in healthcare now wastes the majority of time and resources coping with the absurd “cost control” measures inflicted on us by Medicare and Medicaid. The only way we can ever have an efficient healthcare system is to get the government out of it, and let doctors and hospital compete on quality and cost. How well do you think, say, our auto-repair industry, our food industry, or our plumbing industry would fare with the US Congress or Medicare setting their prices and policies? Get a clue, America.
Yours for Better Healthcare,
Dan Jones, MD
Eureka Springs, Arkansas
Posted by: Dan Jones, MD | February 23, 2010, 9:25 am 9:25 am
go ahead make are day but remember dems its your a**es as a moderate independent i say start over slowly just a little at a time get a little feel for it not one huge bill thrown at us with pork most people did not even read it.
Posted by: natale from mass. | February 23, 2010, 9:41 am 9:41 am
rightbehind Strong Public Option or nothing!++++Then I guess nothing it is. The public option is dead, gone. You can hear it BO’s voice. It aint gonna happen.
Posted by: Boxcar | February 23, 2010, 9:43 am 9:43 am
Hope they’ll come to an agreement on cost control of insurance for the consumer. The costs of delivering healthcare must be addressed to prevent rises in costs when more people are covered, exclusions are banned, pre-existings are banned, etc. Tort reform and more open competition between insurors would be good provisions for the consumer. I’d like to see less advertising by the medical, pharmaceutical and legal professions. We have to pay for that advertising. We have to pay for defense attorneys and litigants for plaintiffs in lawsuits. Every healthcare provider must maintain a staff of legal people and buy insurance to protect themselves against lawsuits. We pay those salaries and premiums. Many tests are conducted to ward off the potential for lawsuits. We pay for those tests. Tort reform is a must addition to any meaningful healthcare reform package. Open competition is the free market way of controlling cost.
Posted by: gollywiggle | February 23, 2010, 9:54 am 9:54 am
People have gone from complaining about the content of bills to now complain about the number of pages. The same people would promote hype around large teenage witchcraft storybooks. Talk about dumbing down the public.
BTW the President’s proposal released yesterday was less than 20 pages. But there will be other reasons to complain, right?
Posted by: New Wave | February 23, 2010, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Before they worry about using reconciliation in the Senate, Democrats need to worry about getting the votes they need to pass something in the House. President Obama’s proposal seems to be the Senate bill plus some extra taxes. Pro-life Democrats, who supported the Stupak amendment to the House bill, might be hard pressed to vote for either the President’s proposal (or the Senate bill for that matter). Add to that the fact that there are probably some moderate Democrats from right-leaning districts who might not want to get the boot in November by voting against their constituents’ wishes and Speaker Pelosi might not be able to deliver the required votes.
Posted by: I'm With Stupid | February 23, 2010, 9:57 am 9:57 am
I am ashamed to have voted so many years for Democrats. I thought that was what I was supposed to do living in Philadelphia. I now realize my errors. I truly believe that we won’t see another Democrat as President for at least 30 years. President Obama is the greatest thing that happened to the Republican party. And if moderate Democrats are stupid enough to go along with the liberal base and ram through a bill that likely will bankrupt this country or tax everyone in an attempt to avoid a worthless dollar, then we may see one of the ugliest elections for Democrats EVER. Strip out the accounting gimmicks and the bill is a financial disaster.
As Anthony Weiner said recently, its not about reforming the health care industry but its about redistributing health care services. That means the government will decide who deserves that liver transplant and who does not. Scary stuff!
Posted by: Matt from Philly | February 23, 2010, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Where is the Republican health plan??
Posted by: blendy | February 23, 2010, 10:06 am 10:06 am
We are still waiting for the Republican plan.
Posted by: New Wave | February 23, 2010, 10:17 am 10:17 am
Dan Jones: How about getting the insurance companies out of healthcare too? That’s a sure way to save 30% ‘brokerage fees’ the insurance companies now charge us.
Posted by: New Wave | February 23, 2010, 10:24 am 10:24 am
For those wanting to see the Republican health care plan, google works.
Posted by: NCInd | February 23, 2010, 10:26 am 10:26 am
Our judicial system has successfully put another terrorist away for life. Why do right-wingers not have faith in the American judicial system?
Posted by: New Wave | February 23, 2010, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Because of trial lawyers like John Edwards.
Posted by: NCInd | February 23, 2010, 10:29 am 10:29 am
NCInd. Funny that you and your cohorts now defer to Google for the GOP plan. I wonder what you would have posted if the President asked you to search Google for his plan.
Try and read your posts to yourself/look in the mirror once in a while.
Posted by: New Wave | February 23, 2010, 10:30 am 10:30 am
These senators and congress people/ vice presidents who are ill are getting the best health care in the world. The dems are trying to cram socialized medical down our throats. Which do you all want? Best or wait in line we will see you if you live?
Posted by: Jim Rod | February 23, 2010, 10:34 am 10:34 am
In a new effort called “Highway Hypocrites,” the Democratic National Committee is ramping up its efforts to call out Republicans — members of Congress and governors — who Democrats say “want the money, want the credit, but want to play politics” with the stimulus.
“Highway Hyprocrites”, that’s a fitting name for these GOP con men.
Posted by: New Wave | February 23, 2010, 10:36 am 10:36 am
What do you want me to do, throw the link right in your lap?
If i have to go search the internet for things I’m interested in, so can other people.
the presidents plan is at whitehouse.gov
I read my post, and what does having to lookin in the mirror have to do with anything?
If you want to insult me, help yourself.
Posted by: NCInd | February 23, 2010, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Okay then. The GOP can come to the televised meeting thursday and tell the American people to search Google for the GOP healthcare plan.
Posted by: New Wave | February 23, 2010, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Fact is, this has nothing to do with actually reforming health care. If it did the Dems would not be afraid to take on trial lawyers. The Dems would not have closed Republicans out of meetings while inviting management from SEIU. This meeting on Thursday will be nothing but a sham but the liberal MSM will once again praise Obama and the Dems while attacking anyone with a R after their name that doesn’t blindly support what’s being put up by Obama and the Dems.
Posted by: mikemcdon321 | February 23, 2010, 10:44 am 10:44 am
I agree with Natale from Mass – Why does it have to be one huge bundle of changes and earmarks. Let’s debate each idea on its own merit and pass only the ones that the people really want. I’ll tell you why – Lobbyists are the ones making the real decisions. Until we eliminate them “We The People” are screwed. I urge everyone to join the anti-incumbent movement sweeping the nation. Remind the politicians who they are suppose to be representing. There is no more time for inaction or procrastination, every vote counts. We all have the right and responsibility to change our government when it no longer is working for “The People”.
Posted by: Topsey Krett | February 23, 2010, 10:45 am 10:45 am
mikemcdon321: You are rehashing old news. yes the old meetings were behing closed doors and those of us who wanted a strong public option did not like it.
If you do not know, the GOP has have been invited to a televised healthcare meeting this Thursday. We are waiting to see what their plan is.
BTW on Tort Reform, what is the market rate of a lost limb/arm that is mistakely amputated these days?
Posted by: New Wave | February 23, 2010, 10:53 am 10:53 am
To all you scared about Health Takeovers– Every Major Industrial nation in the world except the USA Controls Health in their Countries — And despite the PR– Most do a good job of it —Most cover All their Citizens at half the Cost— I believe we are way down on the World’s list of Quality care – atleast as low as # 37— For all you whining about fear of waiting list— You can do what many US seniors currently do– to save money– Hop on a plane to many Great hospitals, and doctors anywher in the world for 50-75% cheaper yet excellent care— Republicans are a bunch of Schoolyard bully Crybabies!!!!!!!
Posted by: brian | February 23, 2010, 11:41 am 11:41 am
New Wave….and yes..once again Obama is “challenging” the Republicans to come up with something. Sadly, the MSM and liberals are following his lead like laptop dogs and continue on crying the same old Democrat talking points. Let me ask you…if this is about “choice and competition” if one of the insurance companies go broke…will they also be allowed to print money to keep afloat like the US Government?
Posted by: mikemcdon321 | February 23, 2010, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Brian…and yet England just raised their taxes to cover the cost of insurance and Canada is now considering how to add private insurance. Have you also considered the true possible cost of trying to insure the 3rd most populated nation in the world? What will the cost be once illegals are included?
Posted by: mikemcdon321 | February 23, 2010, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
How many of you out there watch sports? Who do the commentators consider the best game day coaches? The ones who “make adjustments – especially at half time. Well, Mr. Obama did and the Republicans didn’t. I know who my money is on to win this one.
Posted by: CND FOX | February 23, 2010, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
New Wave; “BTW on Tort Reform, what is the market rate of a lost limb/arm that is mistakely amputated these days?”
Apparently several million dollars. I have a question for you. Did a few million dollars, 40% of which went to an attorney that took the case on contingency, ever replace the missing arm? We need tort reform because mistakes happen in spite of the fact that medical professionals are doing their dead level best to help us as a rule. Lawsuits or the threat of them cause doctors and other medical pros to do a lot of things that really aren’t necessary. Those things cost a lot of money as do the settlements. As professionals don’t their governing bodies like The Department of Health and Human Services have any responsibility of oversight? The ones who screw up repeatedly or negligently could simply lose the right to practice their profession. No lawsuit will replace a lost life or limb or quality of health to a victim of a medical procedure gone bad.
Posted by: gollywiggle | February 23, 2010, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
carol in Alabama: you can call me any names you like, that does not hide the fact that all the lies and deceit would not kill healthcare reform.
Posted by: New Wave | February 23, 2010, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Who are the people Cantor & his friends are talking about? The Republicans, the wealthy, the medical community, the people at FOX, or the puppets who blindly listen to them?
Posted by: parma hts gary | February 23, 2010, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
As healthcare “reform” finds a pulse our economy finds a flatline. All anyone has to do is look back to last year when the socialist from chicago first started to take the lead over hillary and then mccain, the stocks reacted inversely to his rising poll #’s even then. WE WITNESSED THE WORST PERFORMANCE POST-ELECTION OF THE STOCK MARKET IN ITS HISTORY AFTER OBAMA WON.
This was all of course ignored by the MSM. The media was much too consumed with finding dirt up in Wasilla to focus on obama’s corrupt chicago machine past.
Posted by: Dave | February 23, 2010, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
In a new effort called “Highway Hypocrites,” the Democratic National Committee is ramping up its efforts to call out Republicans — members of Congress and governors — who Democrats say “want the money, want the credit, but want to play politics” with the stimulus.
“Highway Hyprocrites”, that’s a fitting name for these GOP con men.
What? Have you seen what dumBO has done with the porkulus? Auto union welfare, bribing states, constant campaigning, Acorn, 3 year olds with mortgages, welfare recipients with new cars. Now you want this idiot in charge of your childrens health care? Or, is it why not, dumBO has indebted our children for life anyway…
Posted by: Todd | February 23, 2010, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
New Wave
You can’t dispute what I say so throw insults- very predictable. Obama is so far entrenched in the chicago machine style politics that he makes blago look like mother theresa.
This health “reform” push has never been about healhcare ever, it has always been about the gov’t taking control over our lives.
Liberals want the government to decide who gets what, so that everything can be “fair”, and people like you keep voting them in. You are completely ignorant of the fact that communism/socialism has led to the murder of 200,000,000 people in the last 100 years, so you support socialists like obama- good job buddy.
Obama is a typical limousine liberal elitist. He has strong contempt for Americans in general, which is why he was perfectly comfortable kickin it with the terrorist bill ayers in his living room and in rev racist’s church for 20 years. His apology tour around the world was great, too.
Posted by: Dave | February 23, 2010, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Dave: You still have not made any point as to how we can resolve the major issues of our day.
Okay, say what the President is proposing would not be effective. Why don’t you think they’ll be effective? What are your alternatives?
Please try again.
Posted by: New Wave | February 23, 2010, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
New Wave
First of all, bring in both parties to get the best ideas possible. Find out what Americans want changed/repaired in our economy. Polls, focus groups whatever is needed to find out want the PEOPLE want done.
Some of the very important issues right now in regards to cost control that are being completely ignored by Washington are tort reform and lack of choices in purchasing insurance. Absolutely nothing that is being proposed right now is going to lower costs of our care, it will raise them in the long run. The eldery/sick will use their healthcare non-stop and healthy people won’t purchase it until they are sick.
Also, Gov’t mandates have prevented the American people from being able to cross state lines when purchasing coverage. This doesn’t force the insurance companies to compete and leads to higher costs. If you want insurance companies to lower costs force them to compete.
Posted by: Dave | February 23, 2010, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
We can start with all the Senators and Reps who are against providing insurance for the uninsured. They can drop their own Govt provided health insurance.
The people and their own families have govt run insurance and they correctly proclaim that US has the best healthcare in the world. They should allow other Americans have the same access that they have.
Posted by: New Wave | February 23, 2010, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Dr. Dan..you are my hero. Where are all the other docs? Who muzzled them?
Posted by: cindy | February 23, 2010, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Brown’s not running against his 10th cousin or for the GOP. They found out the haad way he was kind of a righty from up here!!!
This plan kinda sounds like a state plan. A person that works mandatoraly co-pays 4 a HMO. The Prez is smart enough 2 do that 2 get the peabrain elephants to like how it looks!!!
Note: Palin is 21st Cent. Ross Perot
Posted by: Orus | February 23, 2010, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
Note 1:Elephants:GOP Congressmen
Note 2:Palin:Perot::Obama:2 Terms in Office!!! It worked 4 Hillary’s Hubby
Posted by: Orus | February 23, 2010, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
I agree with Boxcar. Hope they’ll come to an agreement on cost control of insurance for the consumer.
I am just waiting for the plan
Ryan
Posted by: Ryan | February 25, 2010, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm