By Matt Loffman

Feb 11, 2010 3:23pm

Today’s Qs for O’s WH – 2/11/2010

My questions were preceded by much discussion about proposed sanctions against Iran for violating international agreements dealing with its nuclear weapons program.

TAPPER:  If — following up on that, the deadline was the end of 2009.  Why should the leaders of Iran think that there are any consequences for disobeying what the United States and IAEA and the P- 5 want, given that, with the exception of the move by Treasury yesterday, there have yet to be consequences.
  
GIBBS:  Sure.  And, look, as you said, the president is working through and with our partners on making that happen.  We're — we're — this was not going to happen in Times Square when the ball hit zero.  This was always going to take some important time. But understand this:  Our allies are — in this are more united than they've ever been to take actions and consequences based on the statements and the actions of the Iranians.
 
TAPPER:  Do you have China on board yet for U.N. sanctions in the Security Council?
  
GIBBS:  We believe that — that the Chinese have and will continue to play a constructive role.  They worked with us, again, very constructively on the U.N. resolutions dealing with North Korea. And we believe, and I think they believe, it's not in their interest to have a worldwide arms race.  It's certainly not in their interest economically to have an arms race in the Middle East.
  
MAJOR GARRETT, FOX NEWS:  But are they onboard?
  
CHIP REID, CBS NEWS: So that’s a no?

TAPPER:  I mean, that's not really an answer to whether or not they're onboard.
  
(CROSSTALK)
  
GIBBS:  No, we're — we're — we are working through with them, with our other partners in the P-5-plus-1.  This will go through a process at the United Nations.
  
TAPPER:  When does that process start?
  
GIBBS:  It already has.
  
TAPPER:  But when is the — when does the public process start of bringing sanctions forward in the U.N.?
  
GIBBS:  Well, again, the process of — of writing this and devising these, as you know, has already started.

GARRETT:  Is the question not whether or not China will support sanctions, but what kind?  Or are you still working on the whether they will support them?
  
GIBBS:  I'm not going to get into the back-and-forth of diplomatic negotiations, understanding, again, that it's in everybody's interest not to have an international arms race.
 
JILL DOUGHERTY, CNN:  But, Robert, this is at a difficult time, a tense time, already, with China.  And you have the problem that you're talking about right now.  You need China's help on Iran and many other issues. Why proceed with the Dalai Lama meeting, which you know will infuriate them?
  
GIBBS:  Well, we've said this all along.  We — first of all, we talked to the Chinese about their currency in Beijing.  We talked to the Chinese about the Dalai Lama in Beijing.  We talked about Internet access and Internet freedom with the Chinese both in Shanghai during the town hall meeting and in Beijing. We think we have a mature enough relationship with the Chinese that we can agree on issues that are of mutual interest, but we also have a mature enough relationship that we know the two countries on this planet are not always going to agree on everything, and we'll have — we'll have those disagreements.
  
TAPPER:  There are a couple of things in the — in the news that I just wonder if you could comment on. One, could you talk about why General Jones is in Pakistan?
  
GIBBS:  No.
  
TAPPER:  And the other one is there's been some reporting about a Haiti recovery commission, with Bill Clinton supposedly being asked to head up that effort.  Is there…

GIBBS:  I will check on — I will check on that.  I don't have an answer on that.

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GARRETT:  In a rare alignment, MoveOn.org, Paul Krugman and Bill Kristol all agree the president was wrong when he said he does not begrudge the Wall Street bonuses.
  
GIBBS:  The president didn't say that.
  
GARRETT:  I'm saying what they're saying he said.
  
GIBBS:  Well…
  
GARRETT:  He said "success" — "I don't begrudge success.  I don't begrudge"…
  
GIBBS:  Let's not play hypothetical…
  
(CROSSTALK)
  
GIBBS:  No, no, no, no.
  
(CROSSTALK)
  
GARRETT:  "I don't begrudge their success.  I don't begrudge their wealth."
  
GIBBS:  "I, like most of the American people, don't begrudge people's success or wealth."
  
(CROSSTALK)
 
TAPPER:  You should read the question, too, because the question was…
  
(CROSSTALK)
 
TAPPER:  The question was about…
  
(CROSSTALK)
  
GIBBS:  I've read the question.  You and I talked about this, like, four times the other…

TAPPER:  I know, but the question's about…
  
GIBBS:  I understand.  I understand the question was about bonuses. The question — and the president, on five different occasions, just as I e-mailed you yesterday, causing you to re-examine what you'd written based off of the interview, that the president was talking, in that sentence, as he's done many times, about the — he does not believe the federal government should be setting salaries for business in America.  He still believes that.
  
GARRETT:  But does he — does he still remain comfortable with the analogy he made with Major League baseball players?  Many have pointed out, yes, Major League baseball players make a lot of money.  No, many of them don't make the World Series, but none of them had anything to do with the financial crisis or…
  
GIBBS:  Well, I don't think the president would argue that not many baseball players had anything to do with the financial crisis.  I don't think that's — the point he was trying to make was that there are obscene and shocking salaries and obscene and shocking compensation that don't match what happens with your performance.
  
(CROSSTALK)
  
GIBBS:  Hold up.  Hold up.  Can I just — let me finish my answer. That — the president has said that there ought to be — these ought to be based on performance, not on risk-taking.

GARRETT  Some of these new ones are.
  
GIBBS:  No — right, in the sense that, yes, they're in stock rather than in…
  
(CROSSTALK)
  
GIBBS:  There should be a say on pay.  Shareholders ought to be able to weigh in on this. And he said that salaries like you were talking about with baseball and these bonuses are extraordinary and shocking.

TAPPER:  Blankfein and Dimon, are they — are those "obscene" bonuses, Blankfein's and Dimon's?
  
GIBBS:  The president has spoken repeatedly on these bonuses and finds them, as he did in here, extraordinary and shocking.
  
(CROSSTALK)

TAPPER:  He had been asked specifically about Blankfein's and…
  
(CROSSTALK)
  
GIBBS:  And he said "extraordinary and shocking," specifically.

TAPPER:  But are they "obscene"? Are they an "offense"?  Are they a violation of our moral principles?*
  
GIBBS:  The president doesn't have any different view on bonuses yesterday than he had 10 days ago or 10 months ago.
  
GARRETT: Are they more palatable because these are different in — in type from the ones that were not linked to long-term health stocks.
  
GIBBS:  Ensuring that bonuses are paid in that way is a movement in the right direction, right?  Does that justify the level of these bonuses when, through only — only through the taxpayers' assistance would these banks still even exist?  Of course not.

-jpt

*This is a reference to previous comments the president has made about Wall Street bonuses

User Comments

“TAPPER: He had been asked specifically about Blankfein’s and…
GIBBS: And he said “extraordinary and shocking,” specifically.
TAPPER: But are they “obscene”? Are they an “offense”? ”
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Holy cow, talk about fishing for a headline with dynamite. Obama has given the populist banker mob enough soundbites.
“I, like most of the American people, don’t begrudge people’s success or wealth.”
That seems a reasonable statement, unless you just blanket hate Obama are you are off on the far left fringe (and not many Democrats really are). It is generally accepted that America is built on such sentiment, as documented and argued pretty compellingly since Alexis de Tocqueville’s “Democracy in America,” where conservative aristocrats in the 1830′s came to grips with their failed predictions of American collapse (they were sure the commoners would simply cease to work and vote themselves wealth – almost two centuries later, the same tired contempt of the average American is a mainstay of conservative philosophy).

Posted by: jhw539 | February 11, 2010, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

ALL of Obama’s promises come with an expiration date:
Candidate Obama in 2008:
“NO family making less than $250,000 will see ANY FORM of tax increase….NOT ANY OF YOUR TAXES.”
President Obama in 2010:
—President Barack Obama said he is “agnostic” about raising taxes on households making less than $250,000 as part of a broad effort to rein in the budget deficit.
Obama, in a Feb. 9 Oval Office interview, said that a presidential commission on the budget needs to CONSIDER ALL OPTIONS for reducing the deficit, including tax increases and cuts in spending on entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare.—
Read my lips. Heh.

Posted by: Obama, You LIE, Again! | February 11, 2010, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Obama, in a Feb. 9 Oval Office interview, said that a presidential commission on the budget needs to CONSIDER ALL OPTIONS for reducing the deficit, including tax increases and cuts in spending on entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare.–”
Se do we want leaders who stick to campaign rhetoric regardless of changing conditions?
Or do we want leaders who seek solutions to our problems?
Right wingers have spent time screaming about the debt in the last few months (not so much when Bush doubled it).
Now Obama wants to put all options on the table for tackling out budget deficits and the debts including cuts to sacred cows of Social Security and Medicare and going back on one of his campaign pledges and the right wing response is to blast him for it?
Yet again the right wing shows its not serious about anything and should stay in the media business versus the governing one.

Posted by: Ryan C | February 11, 2010, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

“he does not believe the federal government should be setting salaries for business in America”
So why does he employ a “Pay Czar”?
@jhw: “the same tired contempt of the average American is a mainstay of conservative philosophy”
Actually, this “contempt” and this “philosophy” is more in alignment of the liberal elite and their obessive desire to foist government onto individuals at every turn. Liberals push for a Nanny State utopia because they believe we hoi polloi are incapable (too stupid?) to make good decisions and care for ourselves.

Posted by: tjp612 | February 11, 2010, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

“Se do we want leaders who stick to campaign rhetoric regardless of changing conditions?
Or do we want leaders who seek solutions to our problems?”
Posted by: Ryan C | Feb 11, 2010 5:42:32 PM
How about NOT raising discretionary spending ACROSS the board by 10%–and then telling us that you are suddenly getting serious about the deficit?? Obama took Bush’s $400 billion deficit in FY 2008 and turned it into a $1.6 trillion deficit in FY 2010. And yes, it was Obama who signed FY 2009—not Bush.
We want leaders who don’t promise out of both sides of their mouth.

Posted by: Obama, You LIE, Again! | February 11, 2010, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm

“Some malcontents may even begrudge Obama’s publisher-bestowed “success” and “wealth”, based on those bogus books.”
…to say nothing of the bogus Nobel Peace Prize…

Posted by: tjp612 | February 11, 2010, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

“Se do we want leaders who stick to campaign rhetoric regardless of changing conditions?”
Has Obama kept ANY of his campaign promises?
“Right wingers have spent time screaming about the debt in the last few months (not so much when Bush doubled it).”
Not necesarily true. For many/most of us on the “right” our biggest complaint with Bush is that he spent too much (tho’ he is a tightwad compared to The One).
“Now Obama wants to put all options on the table for tackling out budget deficits”
HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR BUDGET DEFICITS!!! Here is a first step in cutting deficits: Scale back funding for ALL federal programs to 2008 levels and END bailouts to states (my initial guess is that this would cut budget deficit in at least half).

Posted by: tjp612 | February 11, 2010, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

“Liberals push for a Nanny State utopia because they believe we hoi polloi are incapable (too stupid?) to make good decisions and care for ourselves.”
Liberals are against gay marriage?
Or just those freedom loving religious right types?
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Yeah, and liberals want to take away a woman’s right to chose – and it’s the right wing types who want to give them choice.

Posted by: tierra | February 11, 2010, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

“Liberals are against gay marriage?”
Nice try, no bite.
“Yeah, and liberals want to take away a woman’s right to chose – and it’s the right wing types who want to give them choice.”
As far as this “right wing type” is concerned, if women want to make that choice, fine with me – Just don’t use any of my tax dollars to subsidize your “choice”.

Posted by: tjp612 | February 11, 2010, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

As far as this “right wing type” is concerned, if women want to make that choice, fine with me – Just don’t use any of my tax dollars to subsidize your “choice”.
Posted by: tjp612 | Feb 11, 2010 6:07:18 PM
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Tax payers’ dollars get used to subsidize many questionable activities, from death squads in Honduras to napalm to cluster bombs – why isolate and pick on women?

Posted by: tierra | February 11, 2010, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

“why isolate and pick on women?”
Really? The practices you mention (if they indeed exist – if they don’t, others could be identified) could at least be construed – if even a reach – to be done in the collective interests of U.S. security (whether right or wrong). Can an argument in the same vein be constructed to show that women having abortions is in the collective interests of American society? (if you are a Margaret Sanger acolyte perhaps you can…)

Posted by: tjp612 | February 11, 2010, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

“We want leaders who don’t promise out of both sides of their mouth.”
Agreed.
Obama should have raised taxes on the wealthy as he promised when he came into office as a means of funding his programs.
Funny that you weren’t angry about him breaking that “promise”

Posted by: Ryan C | February 11, 2010, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm

tierra, we’re not picking on woman we’re standing up for the unborn. You lefties call it a choice. It’s murder plain and simple. Try to spin it any way you want, it is what it is, the taking of an innocent
life. A LIFE!

Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? | February 11, 2010, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

“For many/most of us on the “right” our biggest complaint with Bush is that he spent too much (tho’ he is a tightwad compared to The One).”
Yes I remember all the right wingers who were so furious at Bush for his record spending that they came out in droves to re-elect him in 2004.
Then in 2008 they furiously defended his policies.

Posted by: Ryan C | February 11, 2010, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

The practices you mention (if they indeed exist – if they don’t, others could be identified) could at least be construed – if even a reach – to be done in the collective interests of U.S. security (whether right or wrong).
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If I disagree the use of the nuclear bombs on Japanese civilians, and I disagree it was done morally or accurately as being in “our collective interests”. I disagree with death squads in Honduras in the same fashion. I believe these things boomerang back on us eventually and threaten our national security.
My taxpayer dollars would have gone to those.
On the other hand, I support a woman’s choice to terminate a pregnancy and have no problem with my tax dollars going towards this.
Who has the right to opt out of paying taxes?

Posted by: tierra | February 11, 2010, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

We Conservatives believe in small and limited government, Individual Freedom, Personal Responsibility, Self Determination and the Free Market/Capitalism.
We believe that the government exists to protect the freedom of opportunity in which the Entrepreneurial Spirit can flourish.
We believe in equal rights, equal justice and equal opportunity for all, regardless of race, creed, age, gender or national origin.
We believe those who cannot provide for themselves should be assisted by the government, charitable organizations and individuals, but that every effort should be made to help them become self-supporting, productive citizens so they too can enjoy Individual Freedom and assume Personal Responsibility and Self Determination.
We believe the preservation of the Republic and the security of our citizens depends upon the U. S. Constitution, the laws and the courts–and the strict interpretation of the U. S. Constitution.
We believe the government is responsible for maintaining a strong national defense in order that we can always negotiate from a position of strength.
Posted by: James Danley | Feb 11, 2010 10:10:11 AM
Jhw, this is what you call contempt of the avarage american. May I suggest you look up what conservatives stand for before you start spouting your “contempt” for all things “right” Thank you James Danley!

Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? | February 11, 2010, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

tierra, we’re not picking on woman we’re standing up for the unborn. You lefties call it a choice. It’s murder plain and simple. Try to spin it any way you want, it is what it is, the taking of an innocent
life. A LIFE!
Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? | Feb 11, 2010 6:32:23 PM
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So are you also against the birth control pill and the IUD which are thought to work in part by not allowing a fertilized egg to embed?

Posted by: tierra | February 11, 2010, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

Posted by: James Danley | Feb 11, 2010 10:10:11 AM
All of those are mom and apple pie issues.
The problem you have is with Republicans – they promise those things, but don’t know how to deliver and (as with Reagan, Bush I and Bush II) grossly add the the national debt – and in the case of Reagan and Bush II preside over a collapsed economy by the end of their terms – which deprives many people of the money they earned, sometimes their homes and sometimes their health. The rich benefit – of course – but not the average American.

Posted by: tierra | February 11, 2010, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

“Yes I remember all the right wingers who were so furious at Bush for his record spending that they came out in droves to re-elect him in 2004. Then in 2008 they furiously defended his policies.”
Let’s do a quiz:
(1.) What branch of government is responsible for construction budgets?
(a.) The Executive Branch
(b.) The Legislative Branch
(2.) During the Bush administration, Democrats and Republicans each controlled both chambers of Congress. Under which party were larger deficits incurred?
(a.) Republicans
(b.) Democrats
(answers to each: b.)

Posted by: tjp612 | February 11, 2010, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

By the way, I oppose both!
Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? | Feb 11, 2010 6:48:38 PM
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Do you oppose all birth control?

Posted by: tierra | February 11, 2010, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

tierra, You got it. If you can’t do the time don’t do the crime! Please save your “raped” and “incest” argument. People who have abortions for those reasons make up a very small % of woman who have them.

Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? | February 11, 2010, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? | Feb 11, 2010 6:52:41 PM
Do you oppose all birth control?

Posted by: tierra | February 11, 2010, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

tierra, why do you keep asking that like I’m avoiding some life or death question? I think I’ll troll along like you do when asked to list some of Obama’s successes.

Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? | February 11, 2010, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm

They’re whole premise and approach to bonus outrage I think is something to consider and another great reason why the fed gov’t should not be in the bailout business.
I just wonder why they didn’t/haven’t applied these same principles/outrage to the main players in the auto industry. Instead they pushed out stockholders, investors, pension funds and gave stock/priority to the very people who contributed to the demise of those companies.

Posted by: obieone40 | February 11, 2010, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

Do you oppose all birth control?
Posted by: tierra | Feb 11, 2010 6:52:34 PM
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tierra, You got it. If you can’t do the time don’t do the crime!
Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? | Feb 11, 2010 6:52:41 PM
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You consider sex between two people a ‘crime’?

Posted by: tierra | February 11, 2010, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

Since the press supposedly represents the people — and enjoys special rights because of that — it’s be nice if the press would insist that the WH briefings be RETURNED to live television.
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Every media briefing is freely available to everyone (media and public) on the white house web site under the “Briefing Room” heading – both text and video tape.

Posted by: tierra | February 11, 2010, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm

oh tierra, get a sense of humor of course I don’t consider “sex” a crime. I consider “love making” the ulitmate and most beautiful gift of self one can give to their spouse.

Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? | February 11, 2010, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

oh tierra, get a sense of humor of course I don’t consider “sex” a crime. I consider “love making” the ulitmate and most beautiful gift of self one can give to their spouse.
Posted by: whatsgoingonhere? | Feb 11, 2010 7:18:03 PM
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And you don’t believe in birth control?

Posted by: tierra | February 11, 2010, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

Every media briefing is freely available to everyone (media and public) on the white house web site under the “Briefing Room” heading – both text and video tape.
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Is that unedited?

Posted by: GO | February 11, 2010, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm

Every media briefing is freely available to everyone (media and public) on the white house web site under the “Briefing Room” heading – both text and video tape.
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Is that unedited?
Posted by: GO | Feb 11, 2010 7:22:51 PM
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The one from February 04, 2010 is 55:02 minutes long – which sounds about right.

Posted by: tierra | February 11, 2010, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm

“On the other hand, I support a woman’s choice to terminate a pregnancy and have no problem with my tax dollars going towards this.”
That is your right by law. But you still have yet to show how taxpayer support for abortion supports the collective interests of society.
But let’s move on, tierra. Since so many of your posts involve a “Bush Did It!” justification for Obama’s incompetence, would you care to answer the quiz I posted at 6:51:59 PM? Or will you dodge?

Posted by: tjp612 | February 11, 2010, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

This was a broad-ranging bunch of questions. The answers demonstrate how President Obama has proved to be impotent in every aspect of our national interests.
With Iran, he prisses around making deadlines that are brushed aside. His biggest stick against them is the scary Treasury (whooooo! I’m worried now!) policing a few more Iranian businesses.
The Iranian discussions refer to China, which is a humiliating subject on every front, from our dependency to them on our debt to Obama’s abdication of human rights for Tibetans to … well, count the many ways.
Obama’s fecklessness on banker’s pay points out more of his unseriousness. It reminds me of that Very Big Announcement he made during that humiliating first-year-anniversary/Scott-Brown-election week. Remember what it was? He surprised the nation and the banks with a sudden embrace of the “Volcker Rule” that would drastically limit the size of banks.
He was all macho with, “If these folks want a fight, it’s a fight I’m ready to have.” Heard much about that huge change lately?
Like all of his scolding deadlines and oh-so-important announcements, it was a fake-out, just for show.
It is a dangerous thing for the nation and the world to have such an inadequate fraud leading America.

Posted by: Carol | February 11, 2010, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

This was a broad-ranging bunch of questions. The answers demonstrate how President Obama has proved to be impotent in every aspect of our national interests.
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As impotent as the previous Republican president? North Korea tested its first nuclear weapon on Bush’s watch. Iran developed a secret nuclear facility on Bush’s watch. Bin Laden and al Qaeda escaped in Afghanistan on Bush’s watch.
The national debt doubled on Bush’s watch. The deficit skyrocketed on Bush’s watch. The economy crashed and burned on Bush’s watch.
I think the Republicans should look to their own shortcomings. They are multitude.

Posted by: tierra | February 12, 2010, 1:26 am 1:26 am

The question isn’t what China’s reaction to the meeting would be. The question is why is Obama meeting with a feudalistic religious despot?

Posted by: Flash Override | February 12, 2010, 6:30 am 6:30 am

Look guys, so far as extreme sanctions go.. we already took away their internet (that always works with my kids).. retraction.. they (Iran) took away their own internet (sorry).

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | February 12, 2010, 6:32 am 6:32 am

In a rare instance, I and Obama agree.. we aren’t in charge of the bonuses.

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | February 12, 2010, 6:36 am 6:36 am

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