By Matt Loffman

Feb 11, 2010 1:38pm

‘Top Line’ — Gary Johnson on Legalizing Pot, Cutting Medicare, and the Legacy of Ron Paul

ABC News’ Rick Klein reports: Former Gov. Gary Johnson, R-N.M., has launched a political action committee and is traveling the country in support of his Our America Initiative project — a venture that gives him a platform that appears likely to lead to a 2012 presidential candidacy. If he runs, Johnson could occupy space in the Republican primary field that belonged mostly to Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, whose libertarian leanings gave him a niche in the 2008 campaign that led to memorable fundraising successes — and, some would argue, offered hints of the anti-government tea party fervor to come. In an interview on ABC’s “Top Line” today, Johnson made clear that he’s staking out territory that’s far different than that of his potential 2012 rivals. That includes an immediate pullout of US troops from both Iraq and Afghanistan: “I would just argue that maybe we’re spread a little bit too thin. And we ought to be concentrating on real threats and that Iran may pose that real threat with enrichment of uranium,” Johnson told us. He also favors significant cuts to federal entitlement programs, including Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. “Cutting entitlement programs has to happen!” he said. ”I mean, you guys saw here — what two days ago, where Social Security is done for. I mean, whether that’s two years from now or whether that’s tomorrow — it’s not funded anymore, and it’s here. It’s not our kids, it’s not our grandkids, it’s now!” “Medicare — you know, the Republicans talking about criticizing Obama for potentially cutting Medicare –  Medicare has to be cut, Medicare has to be put on the table, and solutions have to be brought about to reduce that spending. And I would argue that those solutions lie with the free market.” He also favors legalization of marijuana: “It’s never going to be legal to smoke pot [and] do harm to others. It’s never going to be legal for kids to smoke pot, OK? That said, we’re arresting 1.8 million people a year in this country on drug-related crime. Half of what we spend in law enforcement, half of what we spend in the courts and half of what we spend in the prisons is drug-related.” “Look, I haven’t had a drink of alcohol in 22 years. Best decision that I ever made. I have smoked pot. I don’t smoke pot now because it’s a decision that I’ve made. I think the country would be a lot better off if no one were allowed to drink, but we tried that right? We tried that and what happened was, was that people continued to drink. So now, because they continued to drink they were criminal. Well why can’t we make that same correlation today? Why can’t we make that same correlation today that Al Capone was the guy that got rich.” On his potential candidacy in 2012, he said he’s “flattered” by the suggestions that he could run for president. He also sounded supportive of another run by Paul, whose candidacy Johnson backed in 2008. “It wouldn’t be a bad thing. I haven’t spoken with him. But again, I think he raised consciousness when it came to issues like the Federal Reserve and what was happening in our economy. I think that those have come to play themselves out.” Watch the interview with former Gov. Gary Johnson HERE. We also chatted with Politico’s Jonathan Martin about our question of the day — is Sarah Palin qualified to be president? — and about Palin’s prospects more generally, with a new ABC News/Washington Post poll showing growing public skepticism over whether she should have a future role in national politics. Watch the “Top Line” segment with Jonathan Martin HERE.

User Comments

Here here to common sense and clear thinking!

Posted by: Dannyj119 | February 11, 2010, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

I agree with all these points 100%.

Posted by: Terry | February 11, 2010, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

More of that kinda talk from Repubs and less Morale touting-tax cutting BS.

Posted by: DewyB | February 11, 2010, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm

RE: “question of the day — is Sarah Palin qualified to be president?”
Is Barack Obama qualified to be president?
No, I’m not a “birther” or “truther”… whatever you want to call them. I think the Palin QOD is just plain ignorant of the experience disparity in governance between 2008′s Obama and Palin. Some might rightfully argue that after over a year into his presidency Obama has yet to govern anything at all.

Posted by: Sic | February 13, 2010, 1:20 am 1:20 am

I do like Johnson but I found his Iran comments troubling. So Iraq was a mistake and Afghanistan was mismanaged so lets pull out all troops so we can…send them to Iran? The tough talk on Iran just sounds a little too neo-con to me.
Is sarah palin qualified to be president? Let’s see…
“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
…so yeah technically she’s qualified

Posted by: Brooks5000 | February 17, 2010, 11:32 am 11:32 am

I agree with Sic.
He’s spot on re. pot, but is ignorant regarding Iran’s lawful nuclear program. He sounds like another politico shill for that certain nation who would love to see US blood spilt and possibly world war, resulting from a US attack on Iran.
Russia and China say such an attack would be an act of war.

Posted by: Lionel | February 17, 2010, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

A Johnson/Paul candidacy would be two relative peaceniks, and a life insurance policy for Johnson if he were to be POTUS. The usual suspects would rather deal with Johnsonthan their worst nightmare, right?

Posted by: Mary Saunders | February 23, 2010, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

I don’t understand, their policy for years was to let any foreigner drop a baby in this country and BOOM..infant’s a citizen, and 90% of the time on Medicaid. That in turn made the eligible for all sorts of other programs. NOW they’re screaming about spending. Victims of their own stupidity. Let’s start on the budget by cutting elected officials salaries from the top down, including congressmen, senators, etc. They are paid far too much, waste far too much. THEN look at cutting money from already poor and needy programs. Unless you’re not a citizen of the United States. Start cutting there. Let’s get real here.

Posted by: litha | February 11, 2011, 11:34 am 11:34 am

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