Axelrod: Israel Settlement Approval an ‘Affront’; ‘Insult’
The President’s top adviser David Axelrod told me that approval of new housing units by Israel in the Arab section of Jerusalem during Vice President Biden’s trip there last week was an “affront” and an “insult”. “What it did was it made more difficult a very difficult process,” Axelrod said in my “This Week” interview. Axelrod added that the move “seemed calculated to undermine” the so-called proximity talks going on between the Palestinians and the Israelis.
Axelrod said a clear message was delivered to Israel over the flap. “Israel is a strong and special ally. The bonds run deep. But for just that very reason, this was not the right way to behave. That was expressed by the secretary of state, as well as the vice president. I am not going to discuss what diplomatic talks we've had underneath that, but I think the Israelis understand clearly why we were upset and what, you know, what we want moving forward.”
The issue, Axelrod said, is a “flare point throughout the region” and puts U.S. interests at risk. “It is important for our own security that we move forward and resolve this very difficult issue,” Axelrod said.
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TAPPER: All right, last question. Vice President Biden went to Israel this week and he was greeted by a slap in the face, the announcement by the Israeli government of the approval of new housing units in an Arab section of Jerusalem. President Obama was said to be very upset about it. Vice President Biden and Secretary of State Clinton made very strong comments about it. Will there be any consequences, tangible consequences beyond the tough talk? And does Israel's intransigence on the housing issue put the lives of U.S. troops at risk?
AXELROD: Well, look, what happened there was an affront. It was an insult, but that's not the most important thing. What it did was it made more difficult a very difficult process. We've just gotten proximity, so-called proximity talks going between the Palestinians and the Israelis, and this seemed calculated to undermine that, and that was — that was distressing to everyone who is promoting the idea of peace — and security in the region.
Israel is a strong and special ally. The bonds run deep. But for just that very reason, this was not the right way to behave. That was expressed by the secretary of state, as well as the vice president. I am not going to discuss what diplomatic talks we've had underneath that, but I think the Israelis understand clearly why we were upset and what, you know, what we want moving forward.
TAPPER: I hate to say this, but yes or no, David, does the intransigence of the Israeli government on the housing issue, yes or no, does it put U.S. troops lives at risk?
AXELROD: I believe that that region and that issue is a flare point throughout the region, and so I'm not going to put it in those terms. But I do believe that it is absolutely imperative, not just for the security of Israel and the Palestinian people, who were, remember, at war just a year ago, but it is important for our own security that we move forward and resolve this very difficult issue.
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I just listened to Tapper repeatedly try to put the following words in Axelrod’s mouth:
“Are the Israeli settlements putting US servicemen’s lives at risk?”
What an outrageous hyperbolic statement. For starters, no one in the Arab world actually cares about the Palestinians, or they would allow the Palestinians in their own country become citizens, rather than keep them in refugee camps. To try to tie anything happening in Israel to the worldwide campaign of Al Qaeda against the West is absurd.
A better question would be “does the killing of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians by US forces endanger Israel by providing a recruiting tool for fundamentalist Muslims?”
Tapper should try to keep his extreme anti-Israeli sentiments in check, and stick to what is actually happening in the world.
Posted by: hmpierson | March 14, 2010, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Its high time we shud seriously think about our support to Israel.
What they did last week was absolutely insult not only to VP Biden but to all Americans
Posted by: ADMIN | March 14, 2010, 11:28 am 11:28 am
ADMIN, What insult? This administration seems anti-israeli, obama and his team is turning from hyper liberal to terror sympathizers. THE JEWS HAVE SUFFERED ENOUGH UNDER THE PERSECUTION OF EXTREMISM AND ISLAM.
Posted by: Dan Burkard | March 14, 2010, 11:34 am 11:34 am
It is time for the U.S to change it’s policy towards Israel. The Obama is giving Israel enough rope to hang itself and they are doing just that. They are such an arrogant nation, they think they can do anything it wants without consequences. U.S should cut all aid to Israel period! How dare they insult us!
Posted by: Lisa Hampton | March 14, 2010, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Axellrod is a very dangerous man. His comments are completely BS. Peace in the middle east will not happen until Iran and it’s current leadership is removed from earth. Clinton had the head terrorist at the white house and offered everything possible and it was rejected. Why? The only thing Hamas, PLO< Hezbolla and Iran want is Israel destruction..not peace. The white house is a danger to the entire world.
Posted by: TruthnMichgan | March 14, 2010, 11:41 am 11:41 am
hmpierson: The situation between Israel and the Palestinians does put U.S. interests, including the lives of military personnel, at risk. You are correct that the Arab world cares nothing about the Palestinians as people. However, they do care mightily about the Palestinians as AN ISSUE. This is why they will not allow refugee Palestinians to become citizens. The Palestinians are much more useful to the rest of the Middle East Muslim world as an issue. Every time Israel builds a new settlement, you can be sure that the jihadist recruiters have a new recruiting tool. And, yes, that does endanger the lives of our soldiers.
Posted by: Beej | March 14, 2010, 11:44 am 11:44 am
It’s a continuation of the neocons Bush/Cheney era, funded by gambling boss Sheldon Adelson. He single handedly funded the overthrow of Ehud Olmert govt and installed his puppet Netanyahu to continue the neocons agenda in Israel now.
The Justice dept. should lock up Adelson for overthrowing a foreign regime, and lobbying for a foreign govt. when he had Tom Delay killed a House motion on human rights abuses in China.
Sheldon Adelson Does Not want to cede a single inch of territory to the Palestinians and is vehemently against a 2 State solution.
Posted by: ted | March 14, 2010, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Poor David. Again negotiating with disinterested parties. When will he learn.
Of course the new permits place any ally of Israel at heightened risk of death. Of course the new permits were timed to create stress on the process now. Then follows the feigned effrontery of the oppressed oppressor!
We have watched this childish game kill thousands over the past 30 years. It spilled over its borders when I was a child (I’m retired now) and 10 years ago cost 3,000 American their lives on our soil.
This is analogous to a 12 year old telling his parents, “just 5 more minutes, Mom”, but the 5 minutes has turned in to a 30 year rave! When are we going to put our foot down and close this festering wound? A parent would know how to handle these children.
I want peace between these people to break out soon. I have a hard time handing this undeclared world war off to the next generation with the excuse that it has always been this way. How lazy and lame is that?
Posted by: ThinkingTim | March 14, 2010, 11:47 am 11:47 am
This is the United States of America. Not the United States of Israel. How is our unconditional support to Israel benefiting the U.S.? I am a big supporter of the Jewish people, but at some point we as a nation have to say, enough is enough! These conservative fanatics accusing Obama of being anti-Israel are liars. The truth of the matter is, Obama is revealing the truth about Israel. They are really one of the biggest violators of human rights.
Posted by: Lisa Hampton | March 14, 2010, 11:48 am 11:48 am
VP Biden showed his disapproval by showing up late to dinner. That should have ended it/why did the POTUS not call Bibi if he was so upset/becauswe he doesw not have this type of relationship with any foreign leader. there was no need to keep this going/if anything this POTUS has set back what little progress had been made in peace talks. There is a difference between people liking you and actually governing a nation
Posted by: Karla | March 14, 2010, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Obviously, Israeli Government never wants peace with Palestinian peoples because Israel must give back all stolen land from Palestinians if they made peace with Palestinians. I won’t be surprise if Palestinians want to suicide attack on Israel because they have no hope of getting back their Land.
Posted by: 90yearsoldman | March 14, 2010, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
Classic Samantha Power move to ambush israel on sabbath so Israel can’t respond.
Posted by: jason | March 14, 2010, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
Karla, what does Biden showing up late at a dinner have to do with anything? Stop making excuses for such arrogance. Karla you are using this as a reason to bash Obama. The United States and its citizens are always going to be at risk for our unconditional support to Israel. This problem has been going on long before Obama was elected. The truth of the matter is , you would have a negative opinion of Obama no matter what goes on in the middle east.
Posted by: Lisa Hampton | March 14, 2010, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
Every time Israel builds a new settlement, you can be sure that the jihadist recruiters have a new recruiting tool. And, yes, that does endanger the lives of our soldiers.Posted by: Beej ********************* I respectfully disagree with
your theory, Israel has been toying with us for
decades, and we have given in every time. We
have lost credibility as being a negotiator years
ago. Israel is snubbing its nose in our face. In the
mean time, they are becoming more and more
friendly with China. I hope so, because China will
actually tell them where to go, if they try their
dirty tricks, something the U.S. has trouble with.
Posted by: spacerook1 | March 14, 2010, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
This is final insult in front of the world. We are puppet power controlled by Israel. We don’t have any credibility to be a leader of free world to have justified any action in the name of that!
P.S. Very interesting, if we say: We Americans are insulted or felt that way by these statements, some of you guys jump into conclusions like we hate Jews and we have anti – Israel sentiment.
It is so corny, do you have something new?
Posted by: Protoword | March 14, 2010, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Arafat and Abbas even agreed for ramat schlomo to be in a final agreement with israel.
It is right by the green line with no palestinians near there and this was one of the few areas agreed that there would be a land swap.
This is just putting up an obstacle making this an issue.
And no one was trying to embarrass biden.
The meeting had been set before biden said he was visiting and it was planned in advance the announcement.
The committee are appointed by jerusalem city council members so to blame bibi would be like blaming Obama for what happens on the local dc council.
Posted by: jason | March 14, 2010, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Israel has been blantantly in the wrong for decades now. They use their nuclear arms and the (until now) UNQUESTIONED backing of the USA as a bully pulpit and have committed atrocity after atrocity against the people of Palestine. It then evolved into Palestine returning a slap with a slap and then into almost full scale war between the two. The ONLY reason Israel has not nuked Palestine is that the USA would denounce it, but it has not stopped the killing and wholesale slaughter of the Palestinians by other US BACKED means,
Posted by: pudden-taine | March 14, 2010, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
. . . and I’m sure that Israel is just scared to death of that yo-yo.
Posted by: rplat | March 14, 2010, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
It is time to cut the support for Israel. Israel’s paranoia has created the distrustful world. Nobody is going to attach Israel when it has US support for just that. But no more support is necessary which it misuses in controlling palastinians.
Cut off all support to Israel (except the threat that Iran drops one bomb on Israel, US will drop 100 on Iran), and the world will be peaceful.
Posted by: Rick | March 14, 2010, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Once the democrats gained power we seeing them for who they really are. Weak, cowards, anti-American values and turning on the only true friends we have in the Middle East. You must be really ignorant if you think for one minute that there will ever be a Palestine state.
It is not in the interest of the other Arab countries. They will never let that happen for whom would the Arab countries hate than? Their own oppressive Governments. By the way who do think is funding these people all these years?
It is the same as the lie we are dependent on Arab oil. Never had been, its just that we are partners with them and money counts.
How many years must have to listen to this trash, what is an affront and insult is hearing from people like Axelrod who like Obama is child like in their assessment of everything so far.
Our country is insulted everyday these two get out of bed. God help us all.
Posted by: a citizen | March 14, 2010, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
I have observed all this for years and nothing really changes. Israel does what it wants and the US likes it or lumps it. The thing I don’t understand is this: Why is Israel such an important ally? What do they do that is of such great benefit to the US? We don’t have military bases there. Pouring billions of dollars into this tiny nation is of benefit to us? They seem to cause a tremendous unrest in the whole region. Is that what benefits the US????
Posted by: DrChicago | March 14, 2010, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
The American people need to speak out loudly against our support for Israel and not be afraid of being accused of being against the Jewish people. More pressure must be put on our elected members of congress. It is not in the U.S best interest to be close friends with Israel. It is putting our soldiers at risk overseas and it is causing us to have to spend more money to prevent terrorism at home. If the American Jews are patriotic Americans, they would speak out against Israel’s behavior.
Posted by: Lisa Hampton | March 14, 2010, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
Lisa/VP Biden represents the US through the POTUS/maybe you are naive enough to believe that he just happen to be an hour an a half late to a dinner with another head of state. If it was not intentional it was really poor manners. The truth of the matter is I had high hopes for this administration and international affairs. I have been disappointed and the talks have been placed back in time. If addressing my disappoinmnet is “bashing” someone then i guess that is your view. Believe me it is nothing compared to the bashing that Pres Clinton went through/when it reaches that level i will concede. I agree it has been going on for a long time/but then this POTUS was lauded as the one who could “change” that. I guess people can “hope” that will occur.
Posted by: Karla | March 14, 2010, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Israel is a FOREIGN country. They DO NOT respect the United States and therefore need to be treated no different than other FOREIGN countries who are hostile to America.
Posted by: One Nation Under God | March 14, 2010, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
I will bet any of you that if we turn our back on Israel, mark my word some event will take place to the USA that will bring her to its knees. Lets say we do it and see if I’m right?
Posted by: midwestflyover | March 14, 2010, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
We should arm the Palestinians against the Israelis. Israel continues their quest of expanding their holdings at the expense of the Palestinians. Israel has no interest in peace. I have no interest in sending my tax dollars to them.
Posted by: Huh | March 14, 2010, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Why is the U.S. Congress stealing billions of dollars from the American people and wasting it on a bunch of pampered crybabies over in Israel?
Posted by: America First | March 14, 2010, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
John S – A bit simplistic. I don’t think that’s quite the point here. The US has been instrumental (with the encouragement of both Israel and Palestine) in negotiating peace talks between the two. One of the major, MAJOR, bones of contention is the settlements on what is perceived to be Palestinian territory. Israel’s continuing to expand settlements, especially at a time when both sides seemingly want to come to an agreement, is, indeed, a slap in the face to all concerned, the US included. It is in everyone’s interest to see peace, finally, in that part of the world. It just ain’t gonna happen if Israel is perceived as an aggressor(and vice versa). And, if this makes me sound like I’m supporting the Palestinians at the expense of the Israelis, you’re wrong. Both sides need to get rational and understand that they need to accommodate each other. Personally and sadly, I doubt that will ever happen.
Posted by: charisma9949 | March 14, 2010, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
At what point do the crimes of the Nazi’s no longer become the scapegoat for Israeli atrocities? International treaties clearly give Palestinian’s control of land that Israel not only refuses to relinquish, but actively develops. This is roughly equivalent to Canada or Mexico allowing their cities to expand beyond the US border while destroying any town or person which stands in the way.
Posted by: Dan | March 14, 2010, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
Dont we have enough problems without us trying to be the world police? We need to work on the USA and let the others fall where they may
Posted by: Betsy | March 14, 2010, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
In a Oct 2001 Israeli cabinet meeting, Shimon Perez cautioned Ariel Sharon not to upset Americans with Israeli pressure to attack.
Sharon boasted: “Don’t worry about US pressure. We, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it”.
How Israel is able to keep America under its thumb, while creating nothing but problems for it and the world is a mystery. This, after all the suffering the Jews went through under Christian Europe (NOT the Muslims, they flourished under the tolerant rule of Islam, until they occupied Palestine and created this mess)
Posted by: Jay Saxena | March 14, 2010, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
I strongly support Israel, especially since they’re surrounded by millions of insane fanatics bent on their destruction. But Israel is now going too far. The world has told them many times over to stop the settlement building and they continue to flaunt their defiance. And now they spit in the face of the United States, their biggest ally. It’s time the US started putting more pressure on Israel. Of course, none of this would be happening if that dirtbag Arafat had agreed to the eminently fair deal that Pres. Clinton worked out years ago and the Arafat was too much of a moron to sign.
And also let me say that Israel makes up less than 1% of the land of the Middle East. If the hypocritical Arab countries really care so much for the Palestinians, as they’re always crying they do, they should give up some of their land for the Palestinian state. The UN should take part of Iran and make that a Palestinian state.
Posted by: Imright | March 14, 2010, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Imright -They were not always surrounded by insane people as you say. As late as the 70s Israelis would visit Gaza for lunch and both peoples were friendly. It is in recent decades with the demarcation of the West Bank and the accelerating settlement expansions, that the Palestinians started to resist the “insane” Israeli expansion project. Israeli settlers are the real terrorist. Palestinians and those that resist Israeli expansion are not terrorists, but rather folks fighting for their land.
Posted by: Huh | March 14, 2010, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
So, Jason, it is OK for Bibi to dine with Rev Jim Hagee plotting Obama’s overthrow with the GOP and religious right the night before the Vice President’s arrival in Israel for peace talks?
And it is OK to insult and then spit in his face claiming Obama should have come instead?????
And it is OK to take a cheap shot at Samantha Power who had nothing to do with the Biden/Clinton/White House reacions?
It is not OK with Americans.
We want our money back and a stop to Israel’s welfare status.
Posted by: susan | March 14, 2010, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Axelrod and crew just can’t stay out of other people’s business. He thinks we should save everybody from every problem in the world. Bring our troops home and buttout !!
Posted by: Roger King | March 14, 2010, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
The Obama Administration is not Israel’s friend.
Obama bows to our enemies and betrays our allies.
Just ask Gordon Brown and Poland.
Posted by: ollie | March 14, 2010, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Mr. Axelrod and this administration need to keep our big fat noses out of Israel’s business and support that democracy, rather than the thugs that are blowing people up in the name of their false “god”. We should support Israel, because they have more guts that the people in power for the time being. We need to recognize we are at war before the thugs kill all of us! Remember 9/11 any body?
Posted by: Dr. Anthony | March 14, 2010, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
axelrod is obama’s mouthpiece… Obama’s disregards to Israel is obvious.. he has nothing but hatred to them even though during the campaign he affirmed his support to Israel…
obama’s talk is cheap… his promise is as good as a Child promising not to eat candy for the rest of their lives…
hahaha
sayonara
Posted by: graymatter | March 14, 2010, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
We should support every stupid act of Israel, regardless of whether its right or wrong, legitimate or not?
I think and hope not.
Posted by: tierra | March 14, 2010, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Stop giving Israel billions of dollars in foreign aid annually and we can easily pay for medical coverage for all Americans plus stop supplying Israel with the money necessary for them to continue building in the occupied territories.
Posted by: txbluebird | March 14, 2010, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
I say we don’t give them another dime until their attitude changes. It won’t take long. Without U.S. support, they are a sitting duck with little recourse.
Posted by: SWEnSRQ | March 14, 2010, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Once again, Israel is sowing the seeds of its own destruction. By continuing to confiscate Palestinian land, Israel is ensuring there cannot be a viable Palestinian state. The only remaining solution, then, will be a one-state solution in which Israel is forced to absorb all the Arabs it has displaced, occupied and terrorized for the last 50+ years. There will only be one state and they may still call it Israel, but it will not be a Jewish state for long, unless Israel fully embraces the apartheid policies they are now practicing surreptitiously. The Palestinians will not leave their land which, in fact, their ancestors occupied for far longer than any ancestor of any Jew living in Israel. So if Israel insists on controlling that land, it will have to take the people living on it too. The settlements will be the ultimate destruction of Israel as a Jewish state.
Posted by: windrider | March 14, 2010, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Dr. Anthony-Israel is not a democracy since the Arab Israelis are second-class citizens. Israel is a Jewish state and a militant one at that. What Israel is conducting in the occupied territories is apartheid and it needs to be countered and condemned. 911 happened for the reasons Bin Laden gave, one of which was revenge for the killing of Muslims by Israel and the US. Seems like a reasonable justification.
Posted by: Huh | March 14, 2010, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Plainly put, Obama’s administration tries to appease the Arab street on account of the Jewish state. From 90s Israel made huge concessions to Palestinians (let Arafat and his gang into the West Bank, gave up Gaza and etc.) but received back only more terror and hostility.
Posted by: John the Baptist | March 14, 2010, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
John the Baptist -The Palestinians made huge concessions in 1948. Give me a break. Israel needs to pull back to the UN defined borders. If they don’t, pull the plug on them.
Posted by: Huh | March 14, 2010, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
I have not heard from any Jewish organizations in the US on this matter. Are they backing our government or not? Let them speak out. I know a lot of Jewish-Americans send tremendous amounts of money to Isreal. Is this monbey designated for “PEACE” or building “weapons of destruction.”
Posted by: Sanbornbob | March 14, 2010, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
I’ve never seen any country that needs to ask permission from anyone to construct buildings for their citizens. Its easy to sit back in a comfortable chair at home and comment on a story you know nothing about. I’ve been on the ground and I can tell you that Mr obauma and his advisors know nothing about whats actually on the ground. they should worry about the horrible economy at home before commenting on Israeli matters!
Posted by: Jay | March 14, 2010, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Why is it that Isreal has no friends in the world except for the US. The answer can be found in its actions. In order to have friends you have to be one first. I guess the world considers them as unfriendly. If they really wanted peace they could have achieved it by now. They don`t want peace, they want land that they took in previous wars. While most countries in war give the land back after the war, Isreal did not. Is this a matter of “GREED.” If they ever attack Iran I hope we keep out of it and say “its your war.” Because this is one act that will bring the entire muslim world together and even Russia could get into this. Isreal is not worth a world war which could mean the destruction of the world.
Posted by: Sanbornbob | March 14, 2010, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
I’ve never seen any country that needs to ask permission from anyone to construct buildings for their citizens.
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It’s a different story when you’re building on territory you’ve occupied from someone else and think ‘God’ gave you that right.
Posted by: tierra | March 14, 2010, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Rabbi Goodfellow = more of your voice please. This is not about Judeaism, its about politics.
Consider this:
$6billion military/economic/diaspora aid to Israel in 2004 (latest figures).
$6billion total taxes collected in entire state of Mississippi for all services 2009.
Israel pays US zero taxes but gets all our services while Mississippi pays all taxes and gets zero services.
Now I understand….
Posted by: ThinkingTim | March 14, 2010, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Note to a few of the commenters here: Israel accepted Bill Clinton’s “2-state” proposal in 2001.
The Palestinians did not accept Bill Clinton’s 2-state proposal, but chose instead to launch another wave of violence in hopes of attaining a unilateral withdrawal by Israel.
Posted by: Longer memories required | March 14, 2010, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
What’s with this “new settlement” business?
The Palestinians have always demanded Jerusalem, but it was never called a “settlement”.
What the problem with these reporters?
Posted by: Better media required | March 14, 2010, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Thank god. Obama just secured mine and many millions of votes for 2012. Stand strong against those who attempt to control our future with paranoid war-mongering an land theft.
Posted by: cdiew | March 14, 2010, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
How dare Israel insult America.
That’s Obama’s job.
Posted by: mick | March 14, 2010, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
After seeing so much of Axelrod lately would someone please tell him to stop doing that hair comb over thing to try and hide his bald head and to shave of that moustache. He is scary to look at because he looks like Hitler. Thanks
Posted by: Susanne | March 14, 2010, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
It is long overdue for the U.S. to re-evaluate its “special relationship” with Israel. No American would support building whites only settlements in Mexico. Israel builds Jews only settlements connecting by Jews only highways in West Bank, defying official U.S. policies and UN resolutions . We continue to give $3b/year aid to Israel.
Their contempt for the U.S., in particular, the Obama administration is mind boggling.
Posted by: Mike | March 14, 2010, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
If that was an “insult”, what was this?
Posted by: thecrow | March 14, 2010, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
How much money is actually given to Israel in direct contributions each year? And how much is given in military planes etc. And I have heard that money contributed to Israel by US citizens qualifies as a tax deduction under our tax laws (and why would that be allowed?) Does someone know the answer?
If it is not a significant amount then the situation is not so bad, but if it is significant, why are we sending vast amounts to them when our own children go to bed hungry in increasing numbers.
Posted by: DrChicago | March 14, 2010, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
I’m sure Israel was insulted by Biden making promises the Obama administration does not intend to keep.
Since when are they going to stop Iran from getting nukes?
What’s Obama going to do set more meaningless deadlines, or write a harsh letter to Ahmadinejad?
Posted by: larry | March 14, 2010, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
If BHO is insulted now just wait until he gets to Indonesia and finds out the students are throwing shoes at his picture.
Indonesia even moved the statue of little Barry because of protests.
Now that’s an insult!
Posted by: fran | March 14, 2010, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
The assistance the US provides isn’t needed anymore. Israel has a GDP/capita that is higher than S. Korea and approaching New Zealand. Israel has a military industrial complex that sells weapons – and sometimes to countries who threaten stability in other regions (Azerbaijan, for example, which has an ongoing dispute with Armenia). Our unconditional support must end. It is not in our best interest AT ALL. A rational US government would end the unconditional support at a minimum. The US congress is drunk with this fanatical support for Israel and it is dangerous. Our founding fathers (Adams, Washington) frowned on having close ties to any one country. They saw it as a constraint to foreign policy. I believe cutting aid won’t have the desired effect as the drunk congress has been the enabler of Israel’s continued illegal and immoral actions. It’s time to consider sanctions.
Posted by: Alloptionsonthetable | March 14, 2010, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
The Obama administration has been anything but a friend to Israel. They should not be surprised when the Israeli’s pay it back in kind.
Posted by: Bob | March 14, 2010, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
It was no “insult”… it was a sudden shift in American policy on Jerusalem – implemented by Barak after his CENTCOM generals told him that Arab leaders are demanding that he get tough with the Israelis … “or else”
It’s kind of too bad for the Israelis that the current US admin doesn’t much care for them. They’re on their own the next time when the Arab rockets start falling on their cities.
Posted by: Engineer | March 14, 2010, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
What’s a little insult? Elsewhere in the world, Barack reacts to getting insulted by offering a little extra humility.
Posted by: Engineer | March 14, 2010, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
Did you know that a Semite is a descendant of Shem? Both Jews and Palestinians are Semites. Hence, to abuse a Palestinian by stealing his land and undermining his ability to provide for his family and interning his people in ghettos of hopelessness and despair is in fact, an antisemitic policy.
Posted by: wk77 | March 14, 2010, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
An insult you say, this was much more. How long is the west going to take their rhetoric, how much longer are we going to listen to apartheid government. There is a lot i don’t understand about how we let this government get away with what they do, and if we say anything critical about their overt actions we are label as antisemitic. This is not true in my case, i just think they should be held accountable for their action..it is also funny how very few reporters go there to get the real facts.
Posted by: daulton | March 14, 2010, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
under the Obama administration, Israel is the evil and not the troublesome palestinian terrorist, hezbollah, Hamas and syrian agents and iranian islamist…
Obama always warns israel almost always immediately but when his friends from middle eastern countries like the saudi (bowing to his king, wait a minute Obama was supposed to be the messiah), syria, palestinian directly or indirectly commit violence, it is always that “they are fighting for rights…”
I guess Obama forgot that Israel went to war against these terrorist during the 1948 war, 1967 war, the 1973 war and the lebanon/syrian war and etc…
No Obama didn’t forget the history of those wars only that his HEART IS NOT SET in HELPING JEWISH PEOPLE PERIOD…..
I believe someone in the whitehouse warned Israel that they will intercept its fighter planes if they tried to pass through Iraqui airspace (pre-dawn strike on iran)…
Mr. Obama, No American pilot would intercept and kill their only real friend in the middle east (Israel Defence Force) even if you ordered them to do so…
Csayonara…
Posted by: graymatter | March 14, 2010, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
Jay that is ridiculous about Israel asking permission to build in occupied territory. That is like saying that the U.S. should and can build U.S. only settlements in Iraq and Afghanistan. We went to war and are occupying it. So we can build settlements. That is the logic. Well there is international law that says according to the Fourth Geneva Convention that transferring a population from an occupiers territory to the occupied territory is ILLEGAL. It is a violation of international law! And Israel has violated international law for over forty years and gotten away with it with no consequences ALL because of us in the U.S. And that is precisely why this gets such passionate responses on both side in the U.S. Some people in the U.S. don’t want to be subsidizing something that is morally wrong and illegal. And we have been doing this for years. Not to mention it is one of the major recruiting themes and propaganda for Al Queda and Iran.
Posted by: johhny | March 14, 2010, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
So, was Axelrod in charge this weekend?
Posted by: wantingbalance | March 14, 2010, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Poor Palestinians. Why do they bring rocks to a rocket fight? They throw rocks at the Israelis, the Israelis in turn fire American made rockets at them. That’s not a fair fight. America should at least arm the Palestinians with rockets so that they can defend themselves against the thuggish Israeli military.
Posted by: johnnylee | March 14, 2010, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Fiscal Year 2010 budget proposes $2.8 billion be appropriated for Israel. Cut their funding to zero dollars. Bet that would get their attention.
Posted by: Shawn Irwin | March 14, 2010, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
it is also an affront to jam a health care bill that most don’t want. If this diverts some effort towards that, good
Posted by: madmax | March 14, 2010, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Mr. Obama, No American pilot would intercept and kill their only real friend in the middle east (Israel Defence Force) even if you ordered them to do so…
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Sure, just like Israel would never attack an American ship (U.S.S. Liberty).
Posted by: tierra | March 14, 2010, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
The picture of a smiling Biden, posing under the picture of a smiling Arafat was the real insult here.And by the way, the land Israel is planning on building these housing units belongs to Israel, not some future mythical terrorist state called Palestine.
Posted by: Freedtoo | March 14, 2010, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
It’s time to remember the USS Liberty and stop support for Israel. Bin Laden blows up an American on purpose and it’s an act of terrorism. Israel drops napalm on an American ship on purpose and it’s a friendly misunderstanding.
Posted by: GTR5 | March 14, 2010, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Israel is not our ally. They need us far more than we need them. Cut off their aid already and they’ll fold like a tent. They need to recognize Palestine, forfeit land, and engage in good faith for some acceptable level of peace.
Posted by: the_turk | March 14, 2010, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
” The message couldn’t be plainer: Israel’s intransigence could cost American lives. ”
That’s the point that never seems to quite get across to the average Joe, or Shmuel. Israel’s belligerence and self-serving posture will inevitably spark a confrontation that will end in war – a war not confined to a small patch of land on the eastern Mediterranean but an escalating conflict that will rapidly spread throughout the Middle East and thence to Europe, and beyond.
Israel’s intransigence can cost lives throughout half the world. If a child is allowed to behave whichever way it chooses, without any restriction and with no boundaries set to ensure its correct behavior it develops into a threat not only to its own family but to society at large. The Israeli government is currently that child.
Posted by: B L Canary | March 15, 2010, 1:43 am 1:43 am
the land Israel “occupies” was never palestinian land.Jews comprised 2/3 of
the people living in east Jerusalem when they were forcibly evicted from their homes legally bought from turkey
and arab landowners in the 19th and early 20th century.
furthermore,isreal was attacked by the combined armies of egypt syria jordan
lebanon and iraq in the process of defending itself.
no other country in the world has had to do that repeatedly in the last 60 years.
for your information,all of this country is occupied land. just ask any native american.russia occupies huge tracts of land of japan and oppresses
many minority populations for their resources.
china has occupied tibet which is 500 times the size of Judea and sumeria
which incidentally are Jewish names of those territories where Jews have their 3300 year histories.
arabs began to come into what became called palestine after ww1 mostly after Jews began emigrating to it and building it up.read FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL for the real story as to who built the land and who lived where and who was displaced and whose holy sites were violated-only Jewish ones were while Arabs stole thousands of homes in hebron ,jerusalem after 1948.
as to who is an ally of this country?
besides the liberty which was an error
made by an errant individual Israel has cooperated with the US in every phase of international politics. how often have the arabs voted for us interests?
how many jewish terrorists have blown up buildings or organized suicide bombings that have caused tens of thousands of deaths and tens of billions in property damage.did a Jew shoot up fort hood?did they take out the pentagon or try to get the president and congress?
have you read about the wahabists who are al quaida’s teachers.they are related and supported by saudi princes
not by zionists.they are the most dangerous movement in the world and have billions given to them in order to prevent them from attacking the saudis.
yes israel has the wherewithall to do much damage.who have they gone after? men with the blood of innocent children on their hands. not innocent civilians in a resturant or a mosque ,checkpoint or synagogue.
i oppose all foreogn aid. by now israel can rely on itself and the foreign aid is mostly for purchases of us product.
in exchange israel has scuttled its own products that often were as good or better than the american ones.
the fact is that israel is the US’s most stable and democratic ally.
btw all israelis-jews christians and 1.5 million arabs vote in israeli elections for representatives of their choosing.as nice as the iraqi elections were ,the constitution they came up with only allows moslems the right to vote.Jews can’t vote in syria or the other arab countries,certainly not for jewish representatives.Jews are not even allowed in saudi arabia,where prayer different from islam is publicly barred.women have no rights to vote,to drive cars or even walk out alone at night.wahabism plots the overthrow not just of israel but london paris and washington as well. they are funded by saudis and related to the royal family.
but israel building in a place that is Biblical Jerusalem ,where Jews were the majority until forcibly expelled, where Jews will not negotiate the safety of their children by giving away areas necessary for their security- that makes them an enemy. keep your saudi friends and give me more enemies like israel.
Posted by: chaim bergstein | March 15, 2010, 1:44 am 1:44 am
“give me more enemies like israel”
I think not, Chaim. My children want to live in a non-nuclear world, free from conflict and with a senate/ congress that represents the view of the American majority.
Posted by: B L Canary | March 15, 2010, 4:39 am 4:39 am
Posted by: chaim bergstein | Mar 15, 2010 1:44:21 AM
Time to learn how to make some peace chaim.
Posted by: tierra | March 15, 2010, 4:51 am 4:51 am
do you know something about dajjal??
Posted by: cinta laura | March 15, 2010, 6:31 am 6:31 am
I guess after the USS Liberty, they feel they can do anything they want? if we didn’t stop aid then, when would we ever? look up the USS Liberty, if you don’t know what they did.
Posted by: madmax | March 15, 2010, 8:13 am 8:13 am
There are policy issues that Axelrod should leave to the experts.. this is probably one of them. My old boss used to tell me when I stepped in a coworkers water ‘.. you have an important job, why don’t you just work at it..’
Posted by: DontGet818onMeNow | March 15, 2010, 8:41 am 8:41 am
How long is it going to take, for the US to get the message??????
The Palestinians have had opportunity after opportunity to make peace, and to have their own country. They have chosen to reject it, every time,…..for over 40 yrs.
I think that Israel has the right to tire of listening to the US, espouse solutions that don’t work.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | March 15, 2010, 9:45 am 9:45 am
What a pity. The US a country which
can hardly manage its own internal problems is offended when it sticks
its nose into the internal affairs
of another country and has its face slapped.
Obamaland seems to think that if
something is not done in accord
with its imperious commands it can
not be correct.
If and when the US, at the behest of
the NRA and gun manufacturers, stops
its illegal transport of deadly
weapons to Canada it might possibly have a claim to some moral authority.
Today, however, it is nothing more
than a bully intent on blackmailing
those with whom it purports to be
friends in order to please and
placate the world’s worst terrorist
regimes.
Posted by: mickeyobe | March 15, 2010, 10:23 am 10:23 am
So Tapper wants to know if Jews building an apartment block in Jerusalem puts US soldiers at risk?
Here’s what puts US soldiers at risk:
- Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs) sent
by the Iranian govt to Iraqi terrorists
- Al-Qaeda terrorists with free transit
from Syria into Iraq
- Saudi financing of Muslim extremists
throughout the world
- Pakistani serving Army officers helping
the Taliban in Afghanistan
And when the oil price comes down below $30, you’ll hear Jake Tapper talking about those.
Posted by: Georges Makhtouf | March 15, 2010, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Does Axelrod know anything about Jewish history or is he shooting from the hip?
BTW I didn’t vote for Axelrod and do not value his opinion on any subject!
Posted by: Ed Taylor | March 15, 2010, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
I know that Isreal did not mean to insult the United States. It could not have!! You see we elected a new president 14 months ago and he promised that once he was elected the world would love and respect us. He went around and made all the speeches…its a done deal…everyone loves us. You see, there must be a mistake, Jews and Arabs alike, they all love and respect us.
Posted by: Soggy | March 15, 2010, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
The fact is our fly boys are itching to turn their sights on the real bad guys in the region the Israelis and they’re just waiting for the signal from Washington. We’ve been propping up this failed state for years and it’s starting to give way at the seams. Obama would love to drop Israel like a stone if he could and he may get the chance sooner than anyone expects.
Posted by: honestjoe | March 15, 2010, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
When did this baby-boomer adminstration get so sensitive about protocol? Gheez!!! I wonder if the British PM is enjoying his CDs or if the SC will show up for the next State of the Union.
Posted by: Joe | March 15, 2010, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Israel has every right to build housing in its capital. No democracxy will emerge from the Palestinians. Rather, they will have a terrorist state.
Posted by: Robert | March 16, 2010, 12:16 am 12:16 am
Typo correction: democracy
Posted by: Robert | March 16, 2010, 12:17 am 12:17 am
I am over the oppression of any culture. All people have the right to preserve their culture and have dignity. Israel has proven not to have any respect for Palestine or the culture. Reminds me of how China did Tibet. I am ashamed of our policies and how we support a nation that just decides to build a house on any territory it choices.. While we are at it lets make the Indian reservations a free for all
Posted by: Jerry | March 16, 2010, 4:46 am 4:46 am
“The President’s top adviser David Axelrod . . . . .” – ABC News
? ! ? ! ? ! ? ! ?
Axelrod is the President’s TOP adviser! ? ! !
Good Lord, the situation is more dire than I thought, we are all in a heap of trouble.
Posted by: Noz | March 16, 2010, 8:59 am 8:59 am
I am continually amazed at those who have no understanding of what takes place in Israel or why. Let alone its Biblical history. In America we are fed anti-Israel, anti-Semitic rhetoric non-stop and many suck it up like it’s good. Prime Minister Netanyahu apologized for the announcement (which didn’t come across his desk) and Biden accepted. End of story. Obama and his cohorts are simply using this unfortunate incident as another way to force concessions from Israel and try to destroy Netanyahu’s government. Axelrod should work toward being part of the solution and close his mouth.
Posted by: sdunc9 | March 16, 2010, 11:41 am 11:41 am
The comment by reporter Jake Tapper,that Israeli building in Jerusalem could “put at risk the lives of U.S. troops” is nothing less than a deliberate and insidious provocation, whose purpose is to incite hostility toward Israel. He should be harshly reprimanded.
It is also time for the Obama administration to recognize that Israel
is not some American, Banana Republic satelite – Israel will not be dictated to. The people of Israel will not tolerate outsiders planning their future – more specifically those Americans and Europeans who pander to the terrorist regimes, always ready to
appease while paying with Israeli currency.
The Land of Israel belongs to the Jews;
Jerusalem is their Capital; so says G-d
Almighty, and that’s good enough for me
- Period!
Posted by: earthboundJim | March 16, 2010, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
I see that many here think that Israel is the victim here. Both sides are to be blamed. The AIPAC is a powerful lobby here, and unfortunately, the American people are shown only one side of this situation.
The Palestinians people, who are not all terrorists, have suffered too. We have not seen a single video showing the lives these people lead.
Posted by: Mandee | March 16, 2010, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
If Israel isn’t a Banana Republic then why does it take so much in U.S. aid and security? U.S. interests matter. Human rights interests matter. Do not avoid the issue by of illegal settlements by bringing up irrelevant biblical history or palestinian terrorism.
Posted by: Ahmed | March 16, 2010, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
To: Ahmed
U.S.aid to Israel is a smart investment, which smart American politicians and smart business people have recognized is money well-spent. The return to America in R&D, and product innovation is several times over the approx. 2-3 billion dollars
annual aid package. So while Intel builds a cpu factory in Israel, and Warren Buffet invests 4b. dollars in Iscar, a high-tech company, Arab countries can’t even get a sewing factory for Barbi dolls clothes.
And as far as – the bible not being relevant!? Is history irrelevant!? Is the Koran irrelevant!? And Palestinian, or Arab terrorism also not relevant!? Only to the Ahmeds of this world one would guess.
Posted by: earhtboundJim | March 16, 2010, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
America want his benefit..always..not other..
Posted by: Ilan Ben Menachem | March 18, 2010, 5:33 am 5:33 am