EXCLUSIVE: Vice President Biden Says President Obama’s Rescheduled Trip Not a Bad Sign for Health Care Bill’s Prospects

The two huge Republican scandals (Ensign and Sanford) will probably have more effect than Obama’s phone calls.
Just like the latest Vatican gay sex scandal happened at the worst possible time for the American Catholic bishops who nobody takes seriously on health care because of their history of covering up sex scandals.

hey flash override,
how about dodd the countrywide sweetheart dealer who helped with obama to regulate/push risky loans that put world economies on the brink? How about having the same corrupt politician overseeing new rules for gov to regulate companies “too big to fail” (a good description of the federal gov). How about dems eager to assault their pages physically for “tickle fun” but allowed to stay on until their vote is no longer useful?
hows that for scandal?
Now how about a current majority party in DC right now writing laws to enrich themselves, make the feds totally unaccountable, more in control of even more aspects of our lives?
Just like clovis said above.

They told me that if I voted for McCain that we’d get an idiot as the VP.
And they were right!

Read Biden’s last statement in the interview. He says, “You know we’re going to control the insurance companies.”

>I find it utterly distasteful and disrespectful the way Tapper rudely interrupted the Vice President during this interview.
Aww. Poor widdle Biden, who has made a career talking at and over people, was interrupted from spewing his steady stream of Democrat talking points.
Stop whining. The Democrats are toast in November – and you can’t blame the media. They’ve been cheerleading for Obama since 2007. America has had enough of this one-party rule.
Time for CHANGE.

Lies, lies and more lies…
“A, it does take care of preexisting conditions; ” – if you decide not to get insurance and pay the fine you’ll always be able to get it – like buying car insurance after you’e had an accident.
“B, you’re insurance rates aren’t going to skyrocket; ” – CBO says “Average premiums per policy in the nongroup market in 2016 would be roughly $5,800 for single policies and $15,200 for family policies under the proposal, compared with roughly $5,500 for single policies and $13,100 for family policies under current law.” – rates in this market go up $2100 versus doing nothing.
“C, the insurance companies aren’t going to be running the show like they were before; ” – so much for private companies.
“D, you’re going to be in a position where you can keep your insurance that you have. ” – The CBO says “New policies purchased from insurers individually (in the “nongroup” market) or purchased by small employers would have to meet several new requirements starting in 2014.” – I can keep what I have? Not according to this.

Is socialism better than competitive markets at producing quality goods and services?

Is the government controls the insurance companies, what good is it to get to keep the insurance that you have? It WILL BE government run insurance/single payer/socialized medicine.
Thanks, Joe, for clearing that up.
And by the way, exactly where is the abortion “fix” imbedded in the bill b/c we can’t find it.

He’s delusional…..and we voted this goof into office? Shame on us america…..

Wow. Joe plagiarized again. This time he robbed Hugo Chavez

What a silly little man and what a horrifying thought that he is in a position of power. Mr. Biden is equipped to do a great job as a Wal-mart greeter but beyond that slot, he is in over his head.

Hey Joe, who pays those hopital bills and DR’s thats right PRIVATE insurance. So who sets the prices for health care, thats right the medical profession. Boy are you dumb. Why are you progressives hell bent in controlling our lives?

Why would anyone expect Tapper to ask any follow-ups with fact? The media is highly responsible, through their neglect and outright deceitful reportingfor us being in this position with both PEBO and health care. Brett Baeir took Obama apart the other night. PEBO had no answers and proved once again he is a mere puupeet of the uber left Demoncrats. Tick,tick, tick, here comes November!!!

Idiots like Biden have no idea what health care is about. He and his fellow politicians have a sweetheart deal with their health plan and their Golden Parachute retirement plan. Take all of it away from them, make them join a 401K like all of us and use the same hospital plan we have — see how they fix health care then

Control the insurance companies, take over GM…This is the very essence of Fascism. Rather than reserve government intervention only to halt extreme abuses in capitalism (such as monopolies) so that the free market is allowed to operate, let’s do Fascism instead. Good job, liberals.

I got news for all you folks who think you get to keep your private insurance – by the time 2016 or 2017 rolls around, private insurance will no longer exist. This is all part of the Democrats long term plan. If you force insurers to accept all applicants, regardless of medical condition AND regulate the rates so that they cannot increase the cost of a policy, the companies will not longer be able to afford to do business. They shut down one by one and now you have their customers thrown out on the street without insurance. Who’s going to pick up the slack? Well, our paternalistic government can’t have that, so you know they’ll just have to establish a public option to help these poor people find some kind of coverage. Whatever private insurers may be left get forced out by the public option since the government is not burdened by the need to make a profit. Abracadabra, there you have it, no more private insurance. If you think that I’m just making this up, I guarantee you, the Democrats have had a long time in the wilderness to come up with this plan. They are a patient bunch and they just hope that you become complacent enough for them to work their magic.

SOMEONE FIRE THE FIRST SHOT ALREADY. CIVIL WAR OR JUST KILL ME.

Germany’s government did exactly the same thing with big companies and it worked really well for them and the companies for many years …. back in the early 1930′s.
Yes Margaret, don’t be fooled otherwise, yes this IS fascism and yes this IS the USA.
Attention all military personal; you all took an oath to defend the Constitution against ALL enemies foreign and domestic. I suggest that now would be a good time to review it in order to … ‘sort things out’ more quickly later.

America will get screwed with higher cost, lower quality, government rationed, union run health care, but at least some of us will get a 3000% reduction on our health insurance premiums. LOL.
Was Oblahblah just an idiot or did the teleprompter force him to say that asinine assertion?

Straight over the cliff following these idiots. Thanks
Did you ever see a more corrupt bunch in your life?

So the new insurance plan will include people who can’t pay for it (more expense), allow pre-existing conditions (more expense), no limits on amounts that will be paid (more expense) and save us money. I don’t get it, but then I can add. Didn’t hear anything about tort reform either.

Biden lives in his very own special make believe world between his ears. When he does deign to come out and visit those of us who unfortunately have to inhabit the real world– that he and his narcissistic boss are presently in the process of screwing up– it is invariably to tell a big lie.
That most recent big lie is that the cancellation of Obama’s Health Care World Victory Lap Tour is anything but an unmitigated disaster. This is pure amateur hour. These guys look like a bunch of bumbling fools who not only can’t put together legislation, without cutting hundreds of corrupt deals just to get members of their own party on board, they can’t follow through on a simple commitment to visit another country when promised. How pathetic.

Government controlled health care works in places like Canada and Germany because.
A) They don’t have as many people.
B) They don’t have as many bums as us.
C) Their government isn’t as crooked.
One thing we will certainly lose when the government controls our health care is the innovated research and cutting edge drugs. The research money will be gone. Maybe China will develop our new drugs for us then. Just hope they don’t put melamine and lead in our pills. I feel that whites won’t get the same health care coverage as other races. The American government discriminates against its white population greatly. They do it in every other program, why wouldn’t they do it in health care? When’s the last time you saw a low income white person receive free college?

Here’s the sad fact. We’re all somewhat responsible for this disgraceful health care event because for too long, we haven’t paid close enough attention to what our legislators have been giving themselves and their cronies at our expense. Time to buckle up America and start digging into who our legislators are and what they’re doing with OUR money. They don’t have any money until they take it from US first!! Time to cut off the allowance and put a short leash on these clowns. Time to flush the unions and their backbreaking demands. Time to vote these bastards out and find some statesmen (and women).

“Look” Joe, you keep pushing something the American people want, and we will “LOOK” to our state legislature to pass laws that federally mandated insurance is illegal (as many states are already doing), then we will “LOOK” to November to vote out of office all of the idiots that backed this bill that an overwhelming MAJORITY of the American public didn’t want (can we say Tom Daschle?), and to 2012 to get rid of the rest of the idiots including you, JOE (and your boss), who we don’t want to “look” at anymore. After all, the Vice Presidency is an easy job, “you don’t do anything”. Isn’t that what you said? Go do that somewhere else and leave our democracy alone!

Biden looks like the joker! Oh he is a joker, liar, thief, corrupt SOB. This will be the end of prosperity as we know it.

If this BS orked, why don’t these dems form their own insurance companies and cover all this stuff! Show us how it’s done. But they can’t, 1) because a business can’t survive run that way 2) They are lawyers and incapable of doing anything! Those who can do, those who can’t teach, those who can’t do or teach become lawyers. Cocked, locked, ready to rock

Lamchops…very good. The agenda that obamaslammajamma and his cohorts are perpetrating in an attempt to make their mark in history would be comical if it were not for 1. the huge cost (not sure it can really be measured) 2. the majority of AMERICANS (not others that will benefit)who are vehemently against this. If this is a dream, wake me up. If not a dream, can someone plesase donate some ambien…

I’m tired of Dems demonizing the insurance industry when they don’t know what they’re talking about. By including pre-existing conditions, the premiums for all are increased dramatically. Think for just a second about the cost of treating cancer, aids, and heart disease. There should be an insurance pool for these types of diseases separate from the general population. The reason health insurance is not sold across state lines is because each state regulates what must be included and paid for by insurance. Many companies can’t afford to cover autism, aids, etc. within the premium caps imposed by regulation. And remember, they are in business to make a profit and that is not evil. Having the IRS increase in size and seize tax refunds — now that’s evil.

they have tied student loan control into this bill precisely to manipulate the savings. as the govt will now control what paid lenders did, they sweep out the middleman, thus being able to crookedly calculate savings. ask yourself, why are they tying the student loan program into a health bill, ..always follow the money. crooks.

The point is this in NOT ABOUT HEALTH CARE!!! It is about the destruction of free market capitalism. The fact that it destroys the best and most innovative health care system on earth,,, ins spite of it’s obvious flaws… is just a smoke screen for the real game. These statists know this is the wedge issue to insure that they and their demon spawn will control our lives from here on out. American colonists did what they needed to do once before in the face of less tyranny than we face now. We can do it again.

I had a chancetoskim overthe plan last night.
No limiton what an insurance company can charge…only that they can not exclude children (up to 26) pre existing starting after passage and four years later they can not exclude adults with pre existing. There are no cost controlls, no limit on what government pays for insurance, nothing to limit medical costs.
Anyone can see this bill lowers the care given to all by limiting optionsfor anyone who now has insurance, it raises insurance premium costs for all, raises taxes to pay the inflated premiums for the now uninsured, and invades everyones helath record.
Biden of course is a devious person who knows anyone who believes in his party and this plan is an idiot.
This plan is not about health care it is about tax and spend for useless things. Typical for Biden and his party.

What is this garbage about “you won’t be in a postition where you paid for insurance and then you get denied for a pre exising condition.” If you have insurance you can’t be denied. Does he know what Pre existant means?? BTW, Joe, I have a PEC. I KNOW what that does to someone. I STILL don’t want this bill go pass.

Any person with half a brain understands that if you open the flood gates to let 32 million more people in and accept those with pre-existing conditions those of us who work will never be able to afford it. The people who work pay for our own insurance, and we (the workers) will be paying for the slackers for the rest of our life. That is not charity, that is communism. These lies that the dems keep telling about all these people who die every day because of lack of insurance is just that, a big LIE. There are hopsitals and doctors paid through charitable means now. That all goes away. So do hospitals and doctors. The dems don’t care because this is all about population control. That’s why they will never include the abortion language. They are insisting that we all participate in their murder of children no matter what. Joe Biden got this job because people felt sorry for him. This idiot will be the deciding vote. Mark my word.

Oh the government wants to control successful insurance companies,given their track record on running anything I suppose that means they will all be bankrupt in no time at all. No one feels warm and fuzzy about the companies, but we all have more confidence in them running the show than this inept administration, and Pelosi, Reid and the liberal minions in congress. Like others with common sense, I have no problem with the Obama care if the legislators, and members of the administration would be willing to give up the health care they have gifted themselves with and substitute this ugly monster in its place.

If no preexisting conditions can be excluded, why bother buying insurance until you need it?
That in itself will drive costs up astronomically, since where will the money come from to pay for the treatment you need, if not for people paying in consistently?
It is all about POWER and CONTROL.

NJ is sending buses to DC tomorrow. Staging is at Moorestown Mall (outside Camden).
Also, FL leg. committee just passed a bill to exempt FL from Obamanationcare. If signed into law, it will join VA and ID in nullification of the feds. with the states refusing to obey the law.
Contact your state officials to nullify the House vote. Otherwise, you will see NOTHING of O-care except taxes, taxes, taxes, surcharges, fees, and penalties for YEARS, while a Dem. Congress just spends and spends the money supposedly meant for “universal” health care.

And what exactly happens to the RELIGIOUS EXCLUSION in Massachusetts? If you have a religious reason to not buy health insurance in Massachusetts – you simply sign an affidavit and you are excluded from being forced to buy health insurance. Yes, it IS that simple.
So how will federal law trump Massachusetts law? What about all those who are already excluded on that basis? Are they no longer afforded their RELIGIOUS RIGHT to not buy health insurance? This is the color of FASCISM!

That we elected such a moron to be VP proves that this miserable excuse for a country deserves everything that’s going to happen to it over the next ten to twenty years.

Ah that Joe increasing the size of the tea party with every flap of his lips.
So if I got what Joe is saying, his dream of government sponsered tyranny or socialism is so very close, and we should be so happy!

“Biden” says “we are going to control the insurance companies”? what a pitiful joke, this clown can’t even control his own tongue!

Americans stand united against this government takeover! Nobody pay this tax if they attempt force it upon us! They can’t do anything about it if millions of us stand together. We are United against this hostile takeover of businesses and health care! I am willing to take the risk of jail time to stand against this outrageous out of control government!

Biden is as inarticulate as they come, and BHO is no better without a teleprompter. The difference between Biden and BHO is that Biden, being a loudmouth, sometimes lets his guard slip and says what’s on his mind (and that’s usually of pretty low quality). BHO, the empty suit, has no thoughts of his own to spew out, so he just sticks to the script, unless his handlers make a mistake and let him go on the air with Fox.

Biden said once these provisions take effect and the American people feel the impact, lawmakers who vote “yes” will reap the benefits.
So, does this mean that the lawmakers who vote yes will get paid for their vote?!

mama- the dems are doing all the work in making AMERICANS hate them. There is no evil being performed by Americans…the dems have that market cornered!

” You know we’re going to control the insurance companies. ” Socialist Biden.

We are witnessing the end of the Republic. God help us all.

Can we send Biden back??

Is there a Drudge or Hot Air link to this post or something?
Well, whatever.
Another post you might find interesting is Bruce Bartlett’s column at Forbes called The Misinformed Tea Party Movement:For an antitax group, they don’t know much about taxes. The same could be said of health care and health care reform.
Somewhat related is this post at the American Conservative:
“Despite the real idealism of some of its activists both inside and outside the Beltway, the Tea Party is nothing more than a Republican-managed tantrum. Send the conservative activists into the streets to vent their anger. Let Obama feel the brunt of it. And if the GOP shows a modicum of contrition, the runaways will come home…. The Tea Party movement creates the conditions in which the activist base of the GOP can feel like it is part of the game again. They can forget Bush-era betrayals, swallow their doubts, and vote Republican this November. The next Reagan is coming, the next Contract With America will work, the next Republican nominee will be one of us. All it takes is for someone to appreciate the anger—and it doesn’t matter that she supported the bailouts that enraged them or the candidate who forsook their ideas and support.” (“Tea Party Crashers:While the movement boasts of independence, it is little more than a GOP adjunct: loud, colorful, but still advancing the establishment’s ends.”)

We’ll be “rewarded”?!? Please; can I just have the sharp stick in my eye now? How about some “rewarding” water-boarding? Make me take a “rewarding” walk in the Cape Buffalo exhibit at the zoo?
THESE PEOPLE ARE FREAKING INSANE! Impeach the SOBs!

And after the insurance companies, they will go after control of another industry and then another until we are a full blown socialistic country with a much lower standard of living and the government controlling our basic needs and limiting access to everything else based on our race, creed, color, age, or sexual orientation.

“You know we’re going to control the insurance companies.” – Joe Biden.
“You know we’re going to CONTROL the insurance companies.” – Joe Biden.
“You know WE’RE going to CONTROL the insurance companies.” – Joe Biden.
We keep hearing that this isn’t a government takeover of Healthcare, but it seems to me that when the no. 2 man says that “We’re going to control the insurance companies” there aren’t too many other conclusions that remain to be drawn. Who is going to CONTROL the insurance companies? Biden’s answer, “WE”. Who is the “WE’ being referenced? The Senate? The Democrats? The Executive Branch? It doesn’t matter. The administration is looking to CONTROL the insurance companies. Like the Healthcare proponents have said so many times, “The proof is in the pudding.” I will let history speak for itself regarding the implications of government control.

Why will people even want to become doctors? After years of study, they will be very limited in their choices and their incomes won’t allow be large enough to pay for their loans and a decent life style (assuming the government still allows decent lifestyles in the future. They may redistribute the comforts of life too).

Massive fines and prison for not buying insurance.
Taxes on your health benefit (unless you’re a union member)
Huge cuts to Medicare.
What’s not to like?

Why do they give this moron air time? is it for the entertainment value? or for the laughs? It certainly is not for his intellectual abilities is it?
When I look around at all the good people that could do the job of VP, I wonder about an American system of government that allows people like him and others to ever get to the positions they achieve when it is a known fact that they have no skills whatsoever.

I like Tina.

“Look, here’s the deal. This has been tough from day one. It’s been tough for 40 years, all right?”…”People have been trying to do this since the turn of the century, the 20th century.” – “Plugs” Biden
Now doesn’t this admission just happen to dovetail perfectly into the timeline that started at the beginning of the 20th century with the “progressive” movement, big labor unions, Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson? Glenn Beck did an outstanding series laying all this out for the benefit of the government-school educated recently. The effort was redoubled during the 50′s and 60′s when avowed Marxists and communists infiltrated the congress, cabinet secretary positions, federal beaurocracies, the courts, unions and academia. They are so damned close to effecting their long dreamed of Marxist takeover of this once great nation that the are literally foaming at the mouth and wetting their pants with “giddy” (as James Clyburn stated) anticipation. Old dummy Plugs, the court jester, just admitted it.
I can hardly wait for the impeachment proceedings and the criminal prosecutions of these traitors to begin.

Posted by: AnnaMaria | Mar 19, 2010 11:18:35 AM
And yet you’re the one who can’t read and address the correct person–
Let’s see if repetition helps:
nother post you might find interesting is Bruce Bartlett’s column at Forbes called The Misinformed Tea Party Movement:For an antitax group, they don’t know much about taxes. The same could be said of health care and health care reform.
Somewhat related is this post at the American Conservative:
“Despite the real idealism of some of its activists both inside and outside the Beltway, the Tea Party is nothing more than a Republican-managed tantrum. Send the conservative activists into the streets to vent their anger. Let Obama feel the brunt of it. And if the GOP shows a modicum of contrition, the runaways will come home…. The Tea Party movement creates the conditions in which the activist base of the GOP can feel like it is part of the game again. They can forget Bush-era betrayals, swallow their doubts, and vote Republican this November. The next Reagan is coming, the next Contract With America will work, the next Republican nominee will be one of us. All it takes is for someone to appreciate the anger—and it doesn’t matter that she supported the bailouts that enraged them or the candidate who forsook their ideas and support.” (“Tea Party Crashers:While the movement boasts of independence, it is little more than a GOP adjunct: loud, colorful, but still advancing the establishment’s ends.”)
Posted by: progressive mama | Mar 19, 2010 11:15:11 AM

Maggie Mahar, Health Beat Blog:
“My prediction: the bill will pass. Those who oppose universal coverage are becoming angrier, louder, more abusive, and more frantic. This is because they realize that they are losing, and now they are just flailing about.”
She seems to be about right.

Hey “Truth:”
You quote this: The Misinformed Tea Party Movement…they don’t know much about taxes.”
We’re learning about taxes quickly. What we do know lots about is the Constitution, Freedom, & Liberty.
We don’t part with these things easily!!

It is only a matter of time before government spending collapses the dollar. The government needs healthcare reform and cap and trade as well as immigration reform to bring in much needed revenues to delay the collapse. They need this like a heroine junkie needs another hit. It is time for an intervention.

These aren’t leaders in Washington they’re aristocratic tyrants. They are there for one reason to gobble up power and fill there gleans with money. This is a disgusting display of corruption by a dominate party. Some of us have know the intent of these tyrants on the left for decades but unfortunately we have had a growing population of home grown brainwashed citizens combined with Socialist trained immigrants that have given these people power to destroy this country. I don’t know if there destructive behavior is intestinal or by accident but its consistant. Every government program especially the Social programs are costly failures fraught with corruption. It seems every program they implement begins the same way. They promise to provide a service to help millions. Then after it starts they bring in union employees and raise their salaries to the point that there is no service available. When will American learn there is no free lunch only liars and scam artist who will promise it. Those who believe in government for their security are misguided, ignorant, or lazy and will always be disappointed.

What the hell – so now the American people are children? They’re talking to us like it – they’re “doing it for our own good”, we’ll “realize once it’s passed that it’s for the the best”. Seriously?

Hey “Truth:”
You quote this: The Misinformed Tea Party Movement…they don’t know much about taxes.”
We’re learning about taxes quickly. What we do know lots about is the Constitution, Freedom, & Liberty.
________
Except you don’t. The country was founded on liberal ideals. (quick look it up! lol.)
Steve Benen of Washington Monthly’s Political Animal notes: “There were no questions in the survey about health care policy, but it stands to reason that these same folks are basing their opposition to the Democratic plan based on little more than confusion….this is also a group that seems to actively eschew reality, deliberately rejecting the truth because facts are perceived as having a liberal bias… how can credible people take nonsense seriously and hope to come up with a meaningful result? How can policymakers actually address substantive challenges while following the advice of angry mobs who reject reason and evidence?
The bottom line seem inescapable: Tea Party activists have no idea what they’re talking about. Their sincerity notwithstanding, this is a confused group of misled people.”

I thought he was going to help us create jobs now?? (thank god he is busy)
Keep in mind that each federal or state job (anyone outside the private sector) drains the output of at least 5 REAL jobs. So when this healthcare crap breeds 15,000 more jobs we lose the revenue of at least 75,000 Americans right off the bat, not counting the actual cost of the plan. This bill destroys REAL JOBS five fold with every healthcare job it creates. Can wait until Cap and trade generates a few more thousand state jobs.
Healthcare is never refused – law in 1986 assures this – Health Insurance is not a right. Once you force pre-existing conditions to be covered and remove all caps then you have destroyed insurance companies (not controlled them).

Mr. Biden is a moron. Mr. Obama did cancel his trip because he needed to stay and use the Chicago-style threatening tactics on those Demos with balls enough to see this “bill” for what it is. The biggest piece in the “FUNDAMENTAL TRANSFORMATION” of America which Mr. Obama said he would undertake during during his campaign. Part of that “hope and change” thing.

Amen to this:
There’s only one thing I need to know about the health care bill in congress: congress has already voted to exempt itself from it.
If the bill’s so fabulous, why did they do that?
There is nothing else I need to know.
Can we add: Why are they pushing so hard for a bill that doesn’t go into effect for 3-4 years from now, but high taxes start immediately?
Stop using “people are going to die if we don’t pass this immediately”. Three years is a long time to pay for something you can’t use.
This isn’t health care reform. It’s government takeover. And by very sleazy, corrupt and dishonest administration.

We’re not Shopping you sheeple! They’re selling us a bill of good, Biden said there going to control insurance Co.’s-They’re going to control you also, via the kind folks at the IRS, and tax you and you’re kids into serfdom, while creating their ‘utopia’ of central control and central planning-it didn’t work in Russia, China North Korea, Cuba, etc. but Now we have geniuses like Obama, Pelosi, Reid & Biden so it’ll work out fine kids. Keep wearing those Che T-Shirts kids, it’s all about ‘helping the people’.
The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.” — H. L. Mencken “The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus “This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.” – Plato “All just power is derived from the consent of the governed.” — John Locke “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government — lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.” — Patrick Henry “We the People are the rightful masters of both congress and the courts — not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” — Abraham Lincoln “In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” — Thomas Jefferson

Not been able to get this passed of 40 years eh? Perhaps there is an excellent reason for that.
Maybe there is no fire or emergency to get this done if it has been okay for 40 years?
Maybe it had been SHUNNED for 200 years (a better way to look at it) despite of idiots who have tried and failed over and over again.
Not worried about this passing since we have 40 years + of clear thinking which have prevented this theft of our liberties.
Let’s go for another 200 years!
P.S. I lived in Europe and Canada – Their systems do not work. When was the last time you heard someone rushing to Canada or Europe for state of the art medical care? Laughing so hard my side is splitting.

We are not obligated to obey unconstitutional laws which violate our inalienable rights, endowed by our creator. Wake up people! There are way more patriotic, freedom-loving Americans than there are money-grubbing, socialist, political hacks. If these punks “pass” this mess, just don’t obey. It’s that simple. You can’t stop a free nation from being free!!!

Hey progressive mama,
Can you think for a minute? The “angry” people are the ones who actually PAY taxes! Can the government “run” anything in the black? Post office, social security, medicare-medicaid, fannie and freddie- GOOD GOD! Who cares what you believe, we can not afford this! Have you ever heard -TAKE FROM PETER TO PAY PAUL- AND PAUL NEVER COMPLAINS! PETER IS COMPLAINING! Both houses of Congress took an oath to protect the constitution from enemies abroad and within!

No Mr. Biden, we are going to control you and the rest of the Washington insiders, and soon!

Healthcare cost so much for a number of reasons: (1) Doctors/hospitals lose money on medicare/medicaid work (government doesnt pay enough), (2) slip and fall lawyers cause obscene malpractice insurance and defensive tests by doc/hospitals, (3) Democrat control Congress kill jobs thru increasing tax burdens on small (and large) businesses (4.5% under Bush w/Rep control, peaked at 10.1% with Dem crontol beginning 2006), (4) Some people are lazy and dont accept responsibility for their actions, they don’t bother with an education or they don’t want to work because they think they’re owed something.

Obama is a delusional narcissist enigma wrapped in an arrogant cloak of blatant deceit and hypocrisy. Greg Neubeck

“The country was founded on liberal ideals.”
That’s right, Roxanna. It was founded on the liberal idea that the governement that governs the least, governes the best.

“Keep my plan”? UNTRUE! I will NOT get to keep my existing plan that I like; that’s a LIE! The bill FORCES my insurance company to CHANGE my plan to remove caps, cover pre-existing conditions, and cover my children for years beyond what they currently cover. THAT IS NOT MY PLAN!! The plan I like and want to keep will, by force of federal law, cease to exist! Now, will my changed plan be the same but “better”? Impossible! My insurance company MUST and WILL (1)raise my or my employer’s costs, or both, (2) reduce or drop some part of my current benefits they’re not required by the “health” bill to retain, and/or (3) reduce quality of care: cheaper doctors or clinics, add waits, drop tests, substitute older medications, etc. Alternatively, and likely eventually, my insurance company will be simply unable to continue in the marketplace. And O. will have got what he always wanted, the elimination of private insurance, to be replaced by 100% government control.

Hey Joe
Ok to insure 31 million costs 940 billion. IS there something wrong here. With no “real” fix for medicare and medicaid. And why not put everyone in medicare making under so much money. The government is basically giving free healthcare to those without insurance under so much. If Im a manufacturer right now in this country I’d shut my doors and have it sourced over in China.
And your premiums will not skyrocket. Oh, then when an insurance company or medical is “taxed” a fee aren’t they going to pass the cost down to the consumer… Just beyond belief.

This health care bill is a product of corruption within the Democratic party. The President is worthless and useless all he does is campaign and spew hot air from his mouth, the vice president is a friggin joke and is a national embarrasment. Nancy Pelosi is flat out scary and probably in need of some mental rehabilitaion, Harry Reid is just flat stupid and useless. The People need to wake up and send these useless morons to the unemployment line.

OK, I’ll try again. Not one person on this board has read the bill but they all have the same opinion. Hmmmm, wonder why that is?

What medical practice is going to take new Medicare patients, when the latest numbers indicate that ObamaCare will take some $523 billion out of that program over the next decade, 65 billion more than originally planned. It’s obvious that reimbursements to physicians, medical device providers, hospitals, etc. will be below the cost of providing such services. However, drugged up degenerate street people, who wish to have medical services, will be the preferred customer, as their health coverage will be paid in full through higher taxes, some 500 billion over 10 years, not including increased taxes for everyone, as the Bush tax cuts expire at the conclusion of this year, and the 3 1/2% increase in taxes on unearned income for everyone, included in the ObamaCare plan. So much for no new taxes on families earning less than $250,000. Just wait for the new policy on amnesty for the millions of illegals. The sky’s the limit on new taxes and reduced medical services for those footing the bill.

Even the member of Congress who is a self admitted Socialist says this bill is completely non-socialist in scope. It’s a shame there are so many lies and so much fear being spread without people reviewing the facts on their own and forming their own opinion.

It is likely that this ruiness bill will pass. The only answer, if it does, is:
VOTE THESE S.O.B.’s OUT OF OFFICE IN THE NOVERMBER 2010 AND 2012 ELECTIONS.
The damage, long-term on our nation will be significant, but at least we can prevent further damage by these haters of DEMOCRACY AND HARD WORK.
VOTE-VOTE-VOTE-VOTE-VOTE-VOTE-VOTE-VOTE

The government will control the insurance companies? What companies are next to be taken over. The Hugo Chavez playbook must be what they’re working out of. Well, I’ll start practicing my siegheil salute for where this is going.

In the 1770′s, fat King George tried to impose English tyranny upon Americans.
We rebelled and won our freedom.
In 2010, fat prince Biden, hideous princess Pelosi, and uber dictator Obama are trying to impose Bolshevik tyranny upon Americans.
It is time to eliminate this most recent attempt at enslaving Americans the same way we eliminated the attempts by fat King George in the 1770′s.
If this requires blood in the streets, then so be it.

“the insurance companies aren’t going to be running the show like they were before;”
Duh…yep, the government who so efficiently runs Social Security, Medicare, the VA, etc. will be running it, and with no incentive to make it better.

Biden is a fool of many fools.

By the way…. has ANYONE asked this question – why do you have a provision in this bill requiring the hiring of 12,000 new IRS agents? Think about it….

If this corrupt process hasn’t produced enough grounds to begin the process of impeachment I don’t know what is. Subverting the process of bill passage on such sweeping legislation is an outrage. This is nothing short of a serious constitutional crisis. Barack Obama is a pathological liar and his administration along its congressional henchmen, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have blatantly committed bribery and intimidation in order to shove this so-called “healthcare reform” down our collective throats. The Democrats are governing America as a dictatorship. They’ll shovel dirt over my cold corpse before I will ever vote Democrat again. I’ll be spending much of my free time over the next two years helping Republican and/or Independent candidates defeat every Democrat in both local and national elections in the next two years. If you’ve had enough, get up off the couch and help defeat these disgraceful Democrats this November.

This gem from an Obama SEMINAR READ THE TALKING POINTS SHILL: “Even the member of Congress who is a self admitted Socialist says this bill is completely non-socialist in scope. It’s a shame there are so many lies and so much fear being spread without people reviewing the facts on their own and forming their own opinion.”
It’s a shame so many Congressmen will be losing their jobs in November because they choose to walk the plank for Obama-Pelosi-Reid et al…..
How can anyone trust their health care with the government when Obama and his cronies cannot even rin a “Cash for Clunkers” program????

I think the insurance companies should just say, “well, since we are such bad guys we are all going out of business as of tomorrow. Good luck, Democrats, at running it better.” I imagine premiums would be dpib;e what they are now, more people turned down, and the medical care much poorer. Insurance is NOT a right. People went for years before it existed and paid their own way. Too many people who say they can’t afford insurance could live in smaller houses, get rid of the highspeed internet, cell phones, and other luxuries that they THINK are necessities. The actual number of people who truly can’t afford any healthcare is probably much lower than the numbers the Dems throw around. Are insurance companies supposed to operate at a loss? Then they will have to go out of business or go to the government and accept government control, which is exactly what Obama wants. More power to regulate people”s lives. By the way, I have never worked in any part of the insurance industry and neither has any family member or friend. Ijust trust the insurance companies more than the government.

Can this guy be our president instead of BO. At least he is honest. He would be comic relief.

I’m spending the weekend cleaning my guns.

Rember this is the guy who said
>.WE HAVE TO KEEP SPENDING to keep from going BANKRUPT !!<< We have found ALL DEMOCRATS are Sociailists and want to spend us into oblivion or slaves to taxes..It took the uninformed to elect the unquailified dual citizenship OBama raised outside the USA learning to hate it..to bring out the TRUTH !!!

The insurance companies stand in the way of socialized medicine (and total control over your biological functions).
Make the cover preexisting conditions and they are out of business the next day, end of story!
People don’t realize that profit is the biggest barrier to a communist takeover. What other than profit and freedom would explain the downfall of communism in the old USSR? The attack on the isurance companies is nothing more than the good old contempt for profit the left had always had.
I, for one, would not want the same government in charge of my social security pension until I die also be the same outfit in charge of my health care ‘allowance’ once I am no longer a productive member of the collective.
Obama is like the Borg – resistance is futile.
Cheers

At least two villages are missing their prizes winning idiots.
I’d be happy to spring for the international airfare for Lead Idiot – first class postage.

“Sweeney – OK, I’ll try again. Not one person on this board has read the bill but they all have the same opinion. Hmmmm, wonder why that is?”
First of all – it would be impossible to get an actual final copy at this time.
Next – I can totally see being against it without reading it because the entire notion it unconstitutional. I can not think of anything in the bill that could convince me that we have a right to Health Insurance.
Finally, what I can not understand is how anyone who reads it and understands it can be for it AND know that we are a republic governend by a Constitution.
All I see is that if you think Health Insurance is a right you are a fool and have not grasped the giant takeover of your freedoms which is occurring.
When they take our money they take our lives – it takes time to make money , hwich they do not understand or appreciate.
In the process they are devaluing our labor not just our currency.
Read the bill and tell me you are still for it.
Cheers

I am most amazed by some of the rhetoric we heard. I have worked for 20 years in the private industry. And have paid for my health insurance (along with my employer who usually pays about 90% of the premium) the entire time. Yet my premiums have not averaged double-dogit increases every year as the Dems have stated. Fact of the matter my premium costs have stayed relateively constant. The Reason? Large companies with large numbers of employees can keep their costs down. However, small businee can’t get into health care pools (GOP idea) and buy insurance across state lines (OOps – another GOP idea). My nephew is a doctor in California. He pays over $9K a month for malpractice insurance. Well the Dems don’t want TORT Reform either. Simple answer according to my nephew: Don’t take Medicaid or Mediacare patients, don’t take any patient without guarantee they have insurance first. Biden (as well as his Boss) are both fools. But there are more fools buying their argument (especially in the town of DC).

Why isn’t anybody talking about impeachment, yet? They Constitution says the fed gov’t gets its *just* powers from the *consent of the governed*. They do not have our consent, 70% are against this. You can be impeached for treason, bribery, & high crimes and misdemeanors. Cornhusker Kickback, LA Purchase, water in CA, etc. Those are bribes for votes. And there has DEFINITELY been misdemeanors (bad behavior, misconduct). Dem. leadership, pres., and those accepting the bribes for votes are impeachable. Why isn’t anyone preserving, defending, and supporting the Constitution? They took a solemn oath to do so at their swearing in!

Hey, man, you know I’m the VP and I don’t know Obamacare from Shinola. But once it’s law, we will then all learn what’s in it and, you know, man, I think it will probably be okay. So why worry, man, trust me. Okay?

Well, does this mean the Dem Party, aka Jackass party will become known as the Deemer Party or will we continue to refer to them as the politburro?
Ya know those insurance companies and the Constitution always did get in the way of the peoples dream…Ain’t that right Curly Joe?

Honest Abe, you really have issues huh? Let me ask you a question, right now when one of the uninsured needs medical attention and gets it, who’s paying for it?

Stating that “people aren’t going to lose their current coverage” is a BALD FACED LIE!
Firms will decide whether or not its cheaper to cover employees or pay the fine.

BIDEN: Well, I yes. Some of them I say they say, well, Joe, look, man, I mean, you know, you guys haven’t massaged this very well. And, you know, this thing has gone on so long, I don’t know. And my response is, hey, man, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Let’s see how many people choke on it! I’m telling you, you know, pre-existing, they’re going to be covered. Unless they’ve been poisoned by like bad pudding man! You know we’re going to control the insurance companies. Man, I know in the past we’ve screwed up everything we tried to control but man, Obama is cool, he say’s let’s keep taking until they have nothing left man! So look man, I have to go wash the prez’s Escolade and then walk Bo! Be cool man!

“Meanwhile, the AMA and AARP scrutinized the bills and endorsed it, basically concluding that the shrill and unhinged complaints from opponents have no basis in reality.”
Less than 29% of all doctors are members of the AMA, what do the other 70% think?
AARP is nothing but an insurance supplier seeking to boost it’s profits and market share. Nice try but no cigar.

Can anyone with at least a half working brain still say Sarah Palin would have made a worse VP then Joe Biden?

I absolutely adore the progressive trolls-at-large who cite organizational support for legislation as authoritative proof of something, when one can go look at the bill and see that it is a train wreck. They cannot refute that these leftist orgs are on the take, and that they stand to gain from this patently, almost trademark fascist legislation (read about the history of Germany from Bismarck on and don’t complain to me if you don’t like the term “fascist” simply because you’re an ignoramus who think it means “people who don’t like Jews and stuff”). These are the same people who want us to take the word of all these envirofascist groups (there’s that darn word again!) who are on the take from the government for global warming research, and “miraculously” keep saying there’s manmade global warming, even though the head of Hadley Research Institute (Google Climategate if you mainstream media followers are confused) admitted there’s been no significant warming for 15 years. Every day goes by you soft leftists in the public look more and more like the “sucker” in those Bugs Bunny cartoons when Bugs would pull one over on Elmer Fudd. Read the darn bill, and don’t lecture anyone until you do, jokers!

When exactly did we become a socialist state?? There is enough governement control…I don’t want my insurance company answering to anyone except the healthcare providers taking care of me!

Mr. Vice President, the president is already the ceo of the largest insurer of the US. He is the head of Medicid, Medicare, social security and ssi and vet hospitals etc. They are all broke and heave the worse claims experience and refuse insurance more than any other insurer. I was in the business for 46 years and got out because the laws passed that bankrupt many insurance companies by regulations. Joe, I would tell you to go blow but you already do. Vive President, Joe Blowhard.

Vice President Biden has once again shown the American people AND the world what a stupid buffoon he really is. I am as conservative as one can be…and I thought Quayle was a dunce…but this guy?
Not only is Biden a tool of fascism, he just a plain tool.

You and the rest of the Marxists that have high jacked the Democrat party are going to make history this November when you ALL get thrown out in the gutter where you anti American filth belong!

It is going to pass. Resistance is futile. Smell it.

WOW! As a Democrat I am APPALLED by this administration and the congress. YOU REPRESENT US!!! I will be leaving the Democrat party and becoming an independent. I am fully ashamed of what is happening here!

I just realized that democrats probably do not care about the election this November because they plan to DEEM themselves re-elected thus making an election an unnecessary exercise.

The one, and only, saving grace that Joe Biden has is that he will make Dan Quayle look like a good, intelligent, well versed Vice President.

Our version of Bagdad Bob.

I can’t believe we voted for this MESS. They are all a bunch of thugs.

Lets just go to war i’m tired of this :D
There should be a military coup. When the govt. defies the people.

Progressive mama: And who is going to pay for all that? Somebody has to. It’s not going to just appear unless of course the US government prints some more money. Do you know what deficit means? Do you understand the concept of bankruptcy? Somebody is going to get shafted. My guess is that the taxpayer is the one who will pay for all this.

Wake up people, in a couple of years everyone in the US will be wearing grey peasant clothes, living in dull grey government housing and looking through dull grey eyes while waiting for their chance to die with dignity. Oh yes, you will have to get your ticket to heaven/hell from the IRS!!!!!
And people say Mexico is corrupt and a “failed state”. Mexico supplies the drugs Americans use to dull their pain while the US government squanders our money to keep them in power.

If adding 30 new customenrs to health care reduces the deficit why not to add people from latinAmerica and all over the wolrd to get rid of our entire debts.?

forcing insurance companies to pay for pre-existing conditions will kill all insurance companies, it’s like having a wreck in your can and then going out to buy insurance. ALL INSURANCE COMPANIES WILL FOLD….. only a moron deny this

Biden attacks the insurance companies, what a crock. Buying insurance coverage is entering into a gamble with the insurance company. They are gambling that you are paying in more premiums than they are losing.This has nothing to do with robbing the poor to make money for rich folks. In some cases they do make a profit while in other cases they lose. When Biden erects barriers then the insurance companies will merely adjust their premiums to compensate.

Wow this crap sets an even lower bar on puff pieces. This is the problem when you have the news rooting for a team in place of reporting the news,,, We the people get shafted.

How did this country become so great without government paying for or controlling every segment of our lives? The United States is bankrupt due to political corruption. In my opinion, we have gone past the point if no return and the biggest political football today is ‘who can I get to pay for my doctor’s appointment?”
You no more have a Right to medical care than you have a Right to weekly grocceries. We’ve lost our minds.

Hey Joe who the hell gave you that haircut? From the back you look like you just rolled out of bed. Those hair plugs also look terrible. All in all what with your low IQ, how the hell did you ever get to be vice-president.

What a tough interview. Dont you think you should have asked him if likes cotton candy, or choclate. You know something hardball. Good GOD what has America come to? Nothing about if you do this deem and pass crap America is going to revolt, you know that right?

what i don’t understand is, how can they claim there is no public option, yet they need to raise taxes to pay for the bill?
Where is that money going?

Lies, lies, lies! That’s all Pelosi and her bunch have to tell, and they are telling the hell out of them. If this gets passed, we’re screwed royaly.

De Oppresso Liber

Wow,
First I have to agree our Vice President is beyond intelligent by any means. My daughter speaks more intelligently than this idiot (she’s 11).
Second, for anyone who believes the government should have all control……wake up and read your history…….its called ‘communism’….and it’s not fun, pretty, and the people under it fight every day for their freedom!!!…….and we stupid Americans who have been so blessed with freedom and with control as to how “we” wish the government to be are just ‘begging’ to give our freedoms away??? This is a real sad day…….

This guy Biden is beyond an idiot!!
I was born, raised and lived in the Scranton area most of my young adult life. Where in the hell did this freak come from!! Bob

Old joe gave it away. They plan to run everything having to do with our lives. Putting the IRS in charge to track you each year and make sure that you have government health care, or they will fine you and be able to deduct it from your tax return.

Is this guy on drugs or was he drinking when he gave this interview? And to think, they made fun of Bush.

All anti trust laws were gutted from the bill, the insurance companies are loving it. Hell, big pharma is even running ads pushing this bill.
That should say it all!

Who is John Galt?

Hopefully Vice Press Biden & President Obama will be able to crush the filthy insurance companies into a bloody pulp.

NObama and company will try to take over everything, Socialist / Communist.
They will however have a problem taking over me and my family as well as my Brother Veterans.

Biden is a fool but what does that say about us? I find it sad that so many of us want to force others to support us.

We’re being told to just trust things to a president who doesn’t even know the difference between a “corpseman” and a corpsman!!! Or, even worse, his comments concerning asthma patients going to the emergency room instead of staying home using a “breathalizer”… uhmm or is it an inhalator??? Make up your mind, Barack!!! You demonstrate simple ignorance and stupidity, and we are STILL expected to TRUST you??? WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!

As a veteran, how can Obama be a commander in chief when he has never served in the armed forces? Let’s see…Regan served, Bush Sr. served, Bush jr kind of served…all republicans. Obama didn’t serve, Clinton didn’t serve, Carter didn’t serve…all democrats. Hmmmmmmmmm So who are the real patriots?

This VP is an idiot. If this was Dan Quayle, the press would have had a field day. Yet this is a VP with a D on the end…. He can’t count. “I am telling them two things”? A+B+C+D doesn’t equal two but four! What an idiot!About as much sense as the whole crappy Health Care Bill. And ABC is the sponsor!!!!

Biden will ‘control’ and dictate what medial treatment and what medicine my children can have only after he pries my gun from my cold, dead hands.

This is the crap that passes for journalism. Just softball segues into their talking points and nothing really new coming out of this ‘exclusive interview.’
The fox interview with President Oblahblah was much better, he was actually pressed when he started dancing his jig.
ABC = another bureau closed. Nobody is watching, because you’re not worth watching.

Since The President has taken over the economy…the stock market is up 70%
Proof that the Dems policies work great.
Posted by: ss71 | Mar 19, 2010 9:52:49 PM
And unemployment is at what?

Again Tapper will NOT ask the courageous questions-
How can we allow someone in government to actually concede that they (big gov’t) will now control the insurance
companies…
Biden is saying he (gov’t) will now take over the free enterprise system and control companies? Whose next?
This is NOT the role of gov’t – when will ABC and other “news outlets” realize this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr. Biden says: Pre-existing condtions will be covered, but your insurance premiums will not skyrocket. Notice: He didn’t say they wouldn’t increase, only that they would not skyrocket. If insurance companies are required to insure pre-existing condtions (and I’m not saying that they shouldn’t be), that will drain them of hundreds of millions of dollars, which means that, Yes, premiums will skyrocket. How dumb do these politicians think that we all are.

“They’re going to see that if you like the insurance you have, then keep the insurance you have.”
Until your insurance company is forced to offer only government approved plans, or until it goes bankrupt because the Feds have saddled it with rules which make it impossible to make a profit. Then you end up in the government plan wither you want to or not.

I just want to know one thing. What’s the most efficient way for me to become a career welfare recipient?
I’ve apparently screwed up, at age 18, by getting a job.
Now, at the ripe old age of 40, I’d like to sit back and enjoy life at the expense of tax-payers.
What’s the best route to obtain that goal?

Wow, how in the world did this mental midget make it this far in life. People like him usually get ran over or killed by falling into ant beds before the age of 13… This is amazing.
I am so glad my dad was a gunsmith and left me a plethora of guns, sadly one day I will probably have to use them to protect my family from these people…
Next time you decide to elect a president on the color of his skin or on the basis of “change you can believe in” go do the country a favor and find the leakiest boat you can and drift off into the ocean….please?

Where is Donald when you really need him. Mr. President, Ms. Pelosi, and Mr. Reid . . . . YOU’RE FIRED!!!!!! OMG, that leaves us with Joe.

“We are going to control the insurance companies…” and the banks, auto manufacturers, education, energy, health care and on and on. I didn`t think it possible to set up a dictatorship in the United States of America…

Yeah! Mr. Biden! Representative of the party that does NOT leave it at “I’m all right Jack; what’s the matter with you?” for all those people left jobless and thus health insurance-less due to all the companies our lackless government allowed to move off shore, for all those young people with pre-existing conditions who now cannot get health insurance once they become independent of their parents, for all those 55 year olds who have been “let go” from their jobs to make room for a “new position” to be occupied by a much younger, cheaper to hire, healthier still albeit inexperienced replacement, etc.

stocks up it’s the Dems, see they know best, when the crash comes it will be Bush’s falut wright,
these morons can not even tie there own
shoe’s.
all you Dems who love this BS heath care
bill keep and eye on the deuductions
that is what will be going up.
i still try to figure, if you send 958 bill. but we will reduce the def. my 150bill.
is this voodo math?
2010/2012
change they will be leave in.

How can a Vice President make remarks like this? This just verifies that I don’t want anything to happen to Obama………Because we would be left with a dumb-*ss for a President. Not saying anything……….BUT even Obama is smarter than Biden! But then again, there are probably many trained apes that are smarter than Biden.

Tomorrow may become a “cold-day” in history!

The truth always comes out , the government is going to own the insurance companys just ask Joe ( the drunk ) he will tell you . Obama and the puppets that follow him are all pathological liers and you cant trust any of them as far as you can throw them ! It is a sad time for america when the soup of the day is corruption .