GOP Robo Calls: Don’t Let Dems ‘Ram’ Health Care Through
ABC News' Teddy Davis reports: The campaign arm of House Republicans is making robo calls today to voters in 40 Democratic-held districts, warning them that their member of Congress is under pressure to support President Obama and Speaker Pelosi's health reform effort. The calls are targeting 25 House Democrats who voted "Yes" and 11 House Democrats who voted "No." The calls are also targeting four Democrats running in open seats who have yet to say whether they would be for or against the Senate version of the health care bill. The calls, which are paid for by National Republican Congressional Committee, are going out to Republican, independent, and Democratic households. Democrats are responding by calling the planned robo calls another GOP "scare tactic." Here is the script of the call hitting Democratic Rep. Tom Perriello (VA-05). Perriello voted "yes" on the House health care bill. Click HERE to listen to the audio. ANNOUNCER: “Hello I’m calling from the National Republican Congressional Committee with a code red alert about an impending health care vote in Congress. Even though a majority of Virginia voters want them to scrap it, Speaker Nancy Pelosi and President Obama are planning to ram their dangerous, out-of-control health care spending bill through Congress anyway. What’s worse, Congressman Tom Perriello voted for this bill the last time it was up and might vote for it AGAIN. Perriello already voted for a bill that will kill jobs, raise the costs of health care, and increase taxes. Tom Perriello should be focusing on creating jobs, yet he might be the deciding vote that causes this massive new spending bill to pass. Please call Tom Perriello now at 202-225-4711 before it is too late and tell him to vote no on Nancy Pelosi's dangerous health care scheme. Visit www.nrcc.org/codered to learn more. This call was paid for by the National Republican Congressional Committee and not authorized by any candidate or candidate’s committee.” ABC News’ Matt Loffman contributed to this report.
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Wow this is big news.
Americans are being urged to express their opinions to their Congressman.
Posted by: Joe White | March 4, 2010, 9:41 am 9:41 am
Jonathan Cohn has some good advice for Dem lawmakers being targeted:
“…I hope these House members pay close attention to the ad–because it’s a vivid illustration of why changing votes is such a bad idea.
Just read that script again…That’s the ad conservatives will run against these members even if they change their votes. And it’s still devastating.
On the other hand, if reform passes, then these House members can defend themselves by pointing to the newly passed health care reform law, hyping virtues like the prohibition on pre-existing condition exclusions, and asking why opponents of the law want to repeal it. Plus, of course, the House members won’t look completely feckless for having spent a year debating a bill that never became law.”
Posted by: There is no Planet B | March 4, 2010, 10:00 am 10:00 am
I hope people do call their Congresspeople to oppose this bill no matter who’s encouraging them to do it. I just don’t think Congress is listening. SO do now but make sure you vote in 2010.
Also when they bring all the merits/virtues of the bill ask them why the piled on all the other garbage to some good ideas and how are they going to pay for it what else are they going to cut.
Do your homework because they will lie then like they have been now so don’t just settle for some talking points. If if any reps try the same thing do your homework on their talking points too so we can really elect people who are about long lasting sustainable solutions that benefit the country.
Posted by: obieone40 | March 4, 2010, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Also, I urge Dems and supporters of health care reform to call their representatives, too. Call, don’t email. Don’t be afraid to be the squeaky wheel. Identify your zip code. And assure the rep’s intern that you’ll be pressuring the Senate as well. (Trust me, in some areas, that’s important.)
Posted by: progressive mama | March 4, 2010, 10:11 am 10:11 am
I say pass healthcare reform. Do it; make it my right. Use reconciliation, whatever. It’s what I believe is the right thing to do for the American people.
Healthcare is a matter of protection and not a commodity.
It is a matter of pain and suffering of life and death. Many people die or suffer terrible pain for lack of adequate healthcare. No one dies for lack of a flat screen TV. Protection is a moral mission for the government but not for business.
Is police protection a commodity? Should one have to buy their police protection from competing security services? How about fire protection? Should the fire department only come save your house if you paid your premiums? Imagine how expensive it would be?
In the past, this reconciliation process has been used for major health-care measures, including COBRA, which allows people to retain their health coverage after they lose their jobs. The acronym stands for Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act because that’s how it was passed. The 1996 welfare bill also passed under reconciliation.
Those measures pale in scope compared with President George W. Bush’s 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, which totaled about $1.8 trillion over 10 years. Both were passed through reconciliation, requiring only a majority vote. Combined they are almost 10 times larger than the health-care elements that may go through that procedure this year.
I think it is about time that our leaders give some protections to the people; protections from banks, health insurance companies and other “blue sky” corporations. We can’t simply ask these corporations to act more ethically towards Americans; we must make laws to protect us.
It’s called regulation. Ever heard of it?
“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” – Thomas Jefferson 1802
Posted by: Daniel | March 4, 2010, 10:17 am 10:17 am
US postal service, Trade your clunker, now maybe cap and trade…..I can hardly wait to have Obama/Pelosi CARE…….
Posted by: Bob W | March 4, 2010, 10:28 am 10:28 am
I WANT HEALTH CARE!!! The conservatives don’t since they are in the pockets of the insurance companies! GO OBAMA – I AM WITH YOU!
Posted by: artwitch | March 4, 2010, 10:36 am 10:36 am
I understand that people are allowed to have their own opinions. That is one of the reasons why this is such a great country. However, people are not entitled to their own facts. Parts of this robocall are blatant lies. It should not be allowed to run.
Posted by: Joel | March 4, 2010, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Parts of this robocall are blatant lies.
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That’s par for the course. Ask the old John McCain.
Posted by: progressive mama | March 4, 2010, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Robo calls, television ads, anything they can do to stop this bill instead of working on it. It may not be perfect but it is a bill and we need it. Reps are lying when they say it will break us…what will break us is not having a bill. Insurance companies as we speak are raising fees by 39% in Calif. What is wrong with them? The people do want a bill but they have poisened and confused the public with people like Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh spewing such hatred and lies all day long. Unfortunately, for many that is all they know and make up their minds based on them. Instead, they should check the facts on Fact Check.Org. It will save money and provide some jobs. What is wrong with that? Instead of working together…republicans are doing all they can to stop this president. I hope he gets it and I hope he continues to stand up to them. Why should he trash a bill that so many worked on for a party who has refused to work with him since day one. Just like the stimulus…those who opposed it are standing up telling everyone look what I did for our state never mentioning it is stimulus money that did it. When this bill passes…they will do the same. Take credit for the few items Obama has included and take credit for the entire bill. To those republicans who are afraid to work with this president and there are some, I say be brave…God hates a coward. This is too important a bill to be intimidated like the governor of Florida. When the reps call the president..a communist, I say what is more communist than making people of your party fear you and take oaths to do as we say or your will be sanctioned. That sounds more like Hitler to me.
Posted by: talmag | March 4, 2010, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Pass Health Care ASAP!!! The GOP is the worst thing that ever happend to the working class of this country. They’re the equivilant of modern day Romans and the rest of us are building their monuments on our sweat and tears!!
I also don’t want to hear about the Democrats barking about the abortion clause as a means to reject this bill becasue they are pro-life. As far as I see it, abortion is currently a legal right in this country. Our constitution is very clear regarding the separation of Church and State. Until it is no longer a legal act, all you moral yahoo’s trying to cram your belief’s down everybody else’s throats should sit down and shut up!!
Posted by: William | March 4, 2010, 10:48 am 10:48 am
I absolutely HATE Robo calls and will donate $100 to the opposing party for each one I receive. Yes, that includes EITHER party. When you make one of these trash calls you are infringing on MY phone line that I pay for, not to mention my time.
Posted by: Joseph | March 4, 2010, 10:49 am 10:49 am
So, let me see if I have this right. A person will have to pay a fine if they choose not to get health insurance and then if they develop a million dollar plus illness, they can apply for insurance and not be turned down?
Posted by: Kathy | March 4, 2010, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Health care is not a “right”. Show me where in the Bill of Rights that it says all americans should have health care at the expense of others? And while you don’t pay a “premium” for the police and fire departments you do pay local taxes which are what funds these institutions. That is why nice
“rich” neighborhoods have better police and fire service.
I want health care reform, but not what the Dems are serving up in this bill. I’m all for removing the exemption from monopoly status that insurance companies have, and allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines. But I don’t want to pay for someone else’s health care. I pay enough in taxes as is. I’m not rich, but I have worked hard for what I have. I pay for my own private insurance (even though my employer offers insurance.) I have a “hospital plan” because I’m young and my family dosen’t get sick very often. Do I pay more when my kids get sick, yes. Do I mind, no.
As for not dying from the lack of a big screen tv, then why not have all the “poor” people make some hard choices and stop spending their money on crap they don’t need and get some insurance. I personally know someone who took their unemployment check and bought a tv with it. This is someone that is on all forms of welfare. I don’t own a big screen tv, but they do. Where is the justice in that?
America is fast becoming a country of whiners who want things given to them rather than the county of hard working people that made it what the greates country in the world.
Posted by: Richard | March 4, 2010, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Our constitution says nothing about the “seperation of church and state.” What it says is “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . ” Expain to me how not establishing a religion turns into right to kill a baby?
Posted by: Richard | March 4, 2010, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Richard, Daniel frames the issue well earlier in this thread:
“I say pass healthcare reform. Do it; make it my right. Use reconciliation, whatever. It’s what I believe is the right thing to do for the American people.
Healthcare is a matter of protection and not a commodity.
It is a matter of pain and suffering of life and death. Many people die or suffer terrible pain for lack of adequate healthcare. No one dies for lack of a flat screen TV. Protection is a moral mission for the government but not for business.
Is police protection a commodity? Should one have to buy their police protection from competing security services? How about fire protection? Should the fire department only come save your house if you paid your premiums? Imagine how expensive it would be..”
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Also, health care is a right for prisoners in this country. Why shouldn’t it be a right for our hardworking, tax paying citizens? that doesn’t mean it’s “free” but it is a matter of security, safety and public health. It’s not a product, though we have allowed it to be packaged and chatted about as such. Wrongly, imho.
Posted by: progressive mama | March 4, 2010, 11:08 am 11:08 am
To those who think they are not now paying for ‘OTHER PEOPLE’S HEALTH CARE”, think again. Every time an uninsured person goes to the emergency room in your community, county, city, etc. and cannot pay, or do not pay, YOU pay for that person’s health care. You pay in rising premiums, hospital costs, and test costs. If you are on traditional Medicare, every time someone uses the Advantage Care plans it is reflected in your rising health care costs for Medicare.
Posted by: researcher75 | March 4, 2010, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Health care isn’t a “right” for prisoners because the constitution says it is, but because we don’t allow them to seek it outside of their cell. It would be “cruel and unusual punishment” to not allow someone to seek medical treatment because you have them locked up in prison. I think most criminals would gladly trade their “healthcare” for their freedom. I would.
As for this statement:
“I say pass healthcare reform. Do it; make it my right. Use reconciliation, whatever. It’s what I believe is the right thing to do for the American people.”
Just because the people think something is their “right” doesn’t make it so. If it did, we would still have slavery in this country. When the goverment can start taking things from one and giving them to another simply because the recepient thinks it is their right we have moved into a tyranical society goverend not by logic, but by the masses. This is why we live in a republic, not a “democracy.”
Posted by: Richard | March 4, 2010, 11:17 am 11:17 am
You are right, eventually I do pay for everyone’s insurance. But that doesn’t mean that it is right. I guess I could drop my insurance and then make everyone else pay for it, but that wouldn’t be right either. When are we going to make people accept responsiblity for themselves and stop giving them a free ride?
Posted by: Richard | March 4, 2010, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Richard…get real..you are paying for those who have no health care now. If we get a bill you will not be paying for those very same people. They will have their own insurance. The costs of insurance premiums will continue to rise if the insurance companies are not handcuffed to a degree. No one want to keep them from making money but they sh ould not be allowed to throw someone off when they get sick after they have paid for insurance all along. Why do they think we bought insurance in the first place. They should not be able to make a 400% profit when everyone else is not making any profit. What is wrong with this picture? There is so many things wrong with this practice and this bill will prevent anyone from being thrown off their insurance plan. You are not paying for illegals..you are paying for all those who once had insurance and do not have it now because of costs. Emergency rooms are full of ordinary people white,black, hispanic waiting for care.The republicans are wrong when they say we have the best health care in the world. We are ranked 37th in the world. How is that having the best health care. The Senator/Congressman, etc,have the best care…we don’t. Obama wants us to have the same care they do and in the end we will all be saving.
Posted by: talmag | March 4, 2010, 11:24 am 11:24 am
I totally agree that they shouldn’t be able to kick you out, or that they shouldn’t be able to make insane amounts of money by being a monopoly and not having adequate competition.
But if you fail to carry insurance and get sick they should not have to cover you. Having to cover pre-existing conditions would totally screw up the actuary tables.
Posted by: Richard | March 4, 2010, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Health care isn’t a “right” for prisoners because the constitution says it is, but because we don’t allow them to seek it outside of their cell. It would be “cruel and unusual punishment” to not allow someone to seek medical treatment
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And I believe it is a cruel and unusual community that doesn’t assure affordable health care for its hard working citizens, those with pre-existing conditions and so on.
There is a reason all other advanced and civilized nations have managed to address this issue, making health care more affordable for everyone in the process, and unshackling business from being the provider.
Posted by: progressive mama | March 4, 2010, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Obama is on a time schedule now. You want to know why? Simple: the test bed in Massachusetts just got hot. Their health care reform is the most similar thing out there we can compare ObamaCare to, and it is on the skids, folks. Massachusetts has the *highest* increases in healthcare costs since starting their Grand Experiment. The Governor was forced into enacting price freezes and the repercussions are now already starting to trickle in as people are being denied treatment left and right! NO need to worry about preexisting conditions getting in the way, No-sir-re-bob! We’ll deny you on anything, even just GPs of we don’t have the money! It is a fiasco of the grandest scale, and as it gets worse (I see pressures building there that will have to explode soon!) it Dooms ObamaCare, and rightfully so.
So complain about “scare tactics” all you want. The Democrats have gotten to where they are at with just that: “Scare Tactics”, and in this case, I think it is something to be REALLY scared of. If we don’t kill Obama’s baby, Obama’s baby is goingto Kill US!!! (and that is not a script from a horror movie!!!)
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Posted by: Clearbrook | March 4, 2010, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
I think it is something to be REALLY scared of.
Posted by: progressive mama | March 4, 2010, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
“Of course you do. Many of the exploited are embracing their exploitation.”
That’s one of the saddest parts….
Posted by: Ryan C | March 4, 2010, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
progressive mama said it all so well;
“Healthcare is a matter of protection and not a commodity.
It is a matter of pain and suffering of life and death. Many people die or suffer terrible pain for lack of adequate healthcare. No one dies for lack of a flat screen TV. Protection is a moral mission for the government but not for business.
Is police protection a commodity? Should one have to buy their police protection from competing security services? How about fire protection? Should the fire department only come save your house if you paid your premiums? Imagine how expensive it would be..”
This is what all of the other industrialized nations have realized. Affordable health care is just as necessary as fire and police protection to the the rights ” of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,” that this country was founded on.
Posted by: Lydia | March 4, 2010, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Whoops, I should have complimented Daniel on the quote. It is a unique point I haven’t read anywhere else.
Our country needs to pass this health care reform bill. It is the morally right thing to do, it will help our economy by providing jobs and helping small businesses who are overburdened by their higher insurance premiums, as well as saving tens of thousands of lives a year.
Posted by: Lydia | March 4, 2010, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Daniel, I went back and read your entire entry. Thank you for taking the time to write it. I’ve copied and pasted it to show my college age sons.
It is the best reasoning as to why we need affordable health care for all, as well as strong regulations on banks and insurance companies, that I’ve ever read.
I love the Thomas Jefferson quote!
Posted by: Lydia | March 4, 2010, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Anyone who points out that you’re already paying for the uninsured in emergency rooms knows how disingenuous that argument is in pushing for universal care. There is an enormous difference between picking up the tab for several thousand people who can’t pay their ER bills and expecting me to shoulder the burden for millions of other Americans. You can’t possibly think you’re going to pay LESS when the government sinks its mitts even deeper into health care. You know why people can’t afford insurance now? Because there’s already too much bureucratic red tape and not enough competition. It’s insane that an aspirin costs you $50 during a hospital visit. The solution is to make health care affordable enough that people pay for routine visits out of pocket and carry insurance for catastrophic events — which is insurance is SUPPOSED to be for. The current system is equivalent to needing car insurance to pay for an oil change. And that’s what we’re trying to prop up, with no real reform.
Any American should also be appalled at the mandate. Whether you *should* carry insurance is irrelevant. Last time I checked, I have freedom of choice and cannot be compelled to purchase a service. The mandate alone in this bill should be grounds for impeaching anyone who voted for it.
Posted by: amr71 | March 5, 2010, 9:52 am 9:52 am
I would rather have no reform than this un-American travesty of a bill, which will cost everyone even more for care and won’t improve the system one bit.
Posted by: amr71 | March 5, 2010, 9:55 am 9:55 am
…which will cost everyone even more for care and won’t improve the system one bit.
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We can’t even get any rosy promises about individual costs or benefits. That alone should say something to anyone with doubts.
Posted by: smartlillena | March 6, 2010, 7:46 am 7:46 am
We already have this health care reform in MA. It has given us the HIGHEST insurance premiums in the country. I caused costs to go UP, not down. Why would impose this horrible reform on the whole country?
Posted by: BostonGirl4 | March 6, 2010, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Obama’s freshmen Blue Dogs owe their seat to his being at the top of the 2008 ticket and the unions. This is payback, and they are already bought. There is nothing in this bill for the American people. Zip. Nada. The tell is how taxes kick in for it immediately, yet the programs don’t start till 2013. Reform would be nice, but we’ve seen from the stimulus and the rest of Obama’s first year in office what change comprises. This is not real change. This is Chicago graft.
Democrats who owe nothing to Obama and would like to keep their jobs: stand firm and vote NO. Overreach will tarnish this administration and ruin the Democratic party brand. Republicans will take the House and Senate, but you can stay and keep your job. You can continue contributing to the national dialogue. You know this, because some smart politician leaked the memo about the doctor fix. Americans are paying attention. Do the right thing.
Posted by: Virginia11775 | March 19, 2010, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm