How Will It Impact You?

Forgive for asking the obvious question, but where were these reports BEFORE the bill was made law?

This ill-conceived legislation will affect you in more ways than you can possibly imagine. Better to ask this question in 2 or 3 years…

AMTRAK, Post Office, VA, Medicare (going bankrupt) Social Security (going bankrupt) Involvement in education, Fanny May, Freddie Mac… the list goes on… whatever would make one think the Federal Government could even do a mediocre job of managing health care. Stand by for exploding national debt (even more than now), wrenching tax increases, heartless rationing, and the general decline of the quality of life in America. The only thing that might change this is the tidal wave of debt that is about to sweep over the country. No one will escape the consequences, not one, not you. There is a good chance the resulting economic turmoil will cause the dramatic dismembering of the entitlement programs and force a return to self-reliance and and the private sector.

There is a good chance the resulting economic turmoil will cause the dramatic dismembering of the entitlement programs and force a return to self-reliance and and the private sector.
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One can only hope. Unfortunately from what is on display by the unions in Greece and now the students in California there’s a deep seated level of entitlement that demands payment for things but balks mightily at any hint of sacrifice to make those things achievable. The idea seems to be we’re charitable when we spend other people’s money but don’t ask for a dime of ours.

I really love the way Obama(lets not seperate Obama from his administration)is going to grill the insurance companies in hearings because they admitted the bill (ahem, law) will cause insurance premiums to go up. Does that chill any of you robots or is that fine with you? Hard to believe, the age we are living in…

Here’s how it was always going to work..
- poor people get some sort of coverage and will pay the same amount of taxes.. plus a few sin taxes (which is a killer for them)
- middle class will get a wash, better coverage, limited premium increases and slightly higher taxes
- people who the government considers rich will pay more for care and pay way higher taxes

Is our sister country now Venezuela? I’m serious, these are the questions we need to now ask. Reforming health care is one thing, trusting that the federal government will handle health care with the golden touch – you’re only kidding yourselves.

Does the errors/crimes/mistakes of one person absolve the errors/crimes/mistakes of another?
Posted by: bobtherepublican | Mar 31, 2010 9:05:09 AM
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If you have a basic understanding of what happens when an economy collapses and the effect that has on government deficits and budgets – yes.
There are repercussions to Bush having doubled the national debt and having overseen the free-fall collapse of the economy. Very real repercussions.

Very real repercussions.
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What are they when you know it’s in bad shape and pile another $2 trillion onto the balance sheet, grossly increase the size of gov’t (while the private sector is losing the bulk of the jobs) then for icing pass a new entitlement that further increases expenses without seriously addressing costs. Why yes very real repercussions.
BTW regarding your comment about reducing taxes below it is not an entilement to return people’s own money to them. Entitlemnet is when you give someone something the want but don’t have.
At least it was across the board tax cuts (although the timing of being done during wars was a concern many including myself had at the time) where this healthcare is so unfair in it’s policies and deal making it’s it’s the worst part about it. It would be hard to sacrifice if there was more expense for helping those truly in need but to have more expense for bribes and a system, historically structured to cultivate overblown expenses and corruption is just sickening. Also the increased role of HHS this creates is really something to take a serious look at. While I may have serious reservations about the current HHS how about if a real different one was in there say someone who said no coverage for any kind of research or payment for stem cell treatments would you still like your one size fits all fed insurance policy. It really is something to be careful what you wish for.

EPU, here’s the facts. Americans, by a wide majority liked the individual components of the health care bill but some voted against the bill as a whole because of the huge amount of negative faux media like Fox news, the right-wing talking heads on radio and t.v. and right-wing newspaper coverage blasting the bill for the past year.
As people actually are finding out the details of the bill, the polls are changing to be in favor of it.
The ideas in this bill aren’t ‘radical’ as you put it. Every other major industrialized nation has better coverage for its citizens than what this bill gives. The bill is actually conservative, compared to a one payer system, for instance.
But I guess if you are looking at it with the eyes of someone who doesn’t care about their fellow American’s, or thinks it is a warped idea that working together we can achieve a better country, it might appear radical. So let me ask, does pooling our taxes to provide police, fire protection, roads, bridges, airports, our armed services sound like radical socialism to you?

Lydia, what polls are you looking at, with people happy with the bill as a whole? And that the polls are improving as people learn about it?
rasmussen reports:
One Week Later, 54% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill
19% Say Their Health Is Worse Now Than A Year Ago
55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill
49% Support State Lawsuits Against Health Care Plan
43% Say Cost of Prescription Drugs Will Go Up If Health Plan Becomes Law
Seems like more of an even split or a slight leaning to against the bill to me.

Rick McDaniel, isn’t that called redistribution???????

bobtherepublican, the poll showing the opinion of Americans changing to support the health care bill are the USAtoday/gallup poll from March 24, 2010, showing 49% think the bill is a good thing, while 40% do not.
On the other hand, the poll you cited was done on March 19, well before the national media started covering the good things this bill would do for seniors, young people, those with pre-existing conditions,how it will help keep premiums down for us, not to mention how insurance companies won’t be able to cancel your policy when you get sick by using trumped up charges.
Folks just needed a little factual information, instead of the personal conclusions by famous but uninformed ‘talking heads’ that we’ve all heard too much of this past year.