“I’m Here Because of Natoma,” Obama Pushes for Health Care in Ohio

The “PASS IT NOW, AND WE’LL FIX IT LATER*” crowd/politicians sound a lot like the management team at Toyota in regards to the “speed-up, then try to slam on the brakes, then crash, burn and die” folks managing the PRIUS et al issues
*BTW, for all you Pro-Lifers who think that the current abortion language will/can be fixed it reconciliation, super bad news. The abortion language in the current Senate Bill that The House will vote on CONNOT BE CHANGED in reconciliation, as reconciliation can ONLY deal with budget items, of which abortion does NOT qualify. So it is now/never on this issue, too.

REMEMBER IN November!!!
If the average middle class American does not do what his boss wants, he gets fired. Since the Congress and Administration plan to ram a healthcare bill into law the American people do not want, they should be FIRED. It is time to VOTE THEM OUT!!! The Congress and Administration want to use a process that was never intended to be used for this purpose to ram this bill into law against the will of the American people. This sets a dangerous precedent that subverts our system of government. Anyone that votes in favor of this bill is the enemy of our system of government. It is time to VOTE THEM OUT!!! ABRAHAM LINCOLN said “and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth”. The American people are the boss not the Congress or Administration. It is time to take our government back from the arrogant members of Congress and Administration who think they know better how we should live our lives than we do. It is time to VOTE THEM OUT!!! REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER…VOTE THEM OUT!!!

Obama Comes to Ohio (Again), Nobody Shows Up
President Barack Obama, joined by Ohio governor Ted Strickland, came to Ohio today to continue his permanent campaign on health-care legislation. His campaign events during the 2008 presidential race attracted crowds of thousands of Ohioans; this time, President Obama managed a crowd of about 200 people. With his negative approval numbers in Ohio (44 percent approve, 52 percent disapprove), it isn’t much of surprise that few showed up to hear him once again talk about health care. On health care, Ohioans disapprove of the job President Obama is doing (34 percent approve, 58 percent disapprove). On the health-care proposal, 56 percent of Ohioans mostly disapprove of it, with 43 percent believing that the proposed changes go too far.

tierra, It is unfortunate that the Democrats allowed left wing loons like moveon hijack their party. Until that point, the dialogue was civil. The left set a precedent — doesn’t justify the right following suit, but it certainly is understandable.
Having said that, REFORM is REFORM. The current bill is not REFORM. Moveon and let’s fix healthcare.

“I’m Here Because of Natoma,” Obama Pushes for Health Care in Ohio……
YOUR”RE HERE BECAUSE OF YOURSELF, WHO”S KIDDING WHO?

The more I think about this the angrier it makes me. Using someone’s illness to push a very politically charged bill is about as low as low can get. Obama and Congress will do anything to pass this bill no matter how far in the gutter the have to get to do it. REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER…VOTE THEM OUT!!!

I would ask one more thing. Why, when pharmas revenues are 6 times their cost of production — and medical payouts are 85% of Insurance Premiums — why is it that Obama is scapegoating insurance companies and not pharmas?

Robert A. Hall is a Marine Vietnam veteran who served five terms in the Massachusetts State Senate wrote the below…. Our so called President should read this….
I’m 63. Except for one semester in college when jobs were scarce, and a six-month period when I was between jobs (but job-hunting every day), I’ve worked, hard, since I was 18. Despite some health challenges, I still put in 50-hour weeks, and haven’t called in sick in seven or eight years. I make a good salary, but I didn’t inherit my job or my income, and I worked to get where I am. Given the economy, there’s no retirement in sight, and I’m tired. Very tired.
I’m tired of being told that I have to “spread the wealth” to people who don’t have my work ethic. I’m tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy to earn it.
I’m tired of being told that I have to pay more taxes to “keep people in their homes.” Sure, if they lost their jobs or got sick, I’m willing to help. But if they bought Mc Mansions at three times the price of our paid-off, $250,000 condo, on one-third of my salary, then let the left-wing Congress-critters who passed Fannie and Freddie and the Community Reinvestment Act that created the bubble, help them with their own money.
I’m tired of being told how bad America is by left-wing millionaires like Michael Moore, George Soros and Hollywood entertainers who live in luxury because of the opportunities America offers. In thirty years, if they get their way, the United States will have the economy of Zimbabwe , the freedom of the press of China , the crime and violence of Mexico , the tolerance for Christian people of Iran , and the freedom of speech of Venezuela .
I’m tired of being told that Islam is a “Religion of Peace,” when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family “honor;” of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren’t “believers;” of Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for “adultery;” of Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls, all in the name of Allah, because the Qur’an and Shari’a law tells them to.
I think it’s very cool that we have a black president, and that a black child is doing her homework at the desk where Lincoln wrote the Emancipation Proclamation. I just wish the black president was Condi Rice, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams or someone who believes more in freedom and the individual, and less arrogantly of an all-knowing government.
I’m tired of a news media that thinks Bush’s fundraising and inaugural expenses were obscene, but that thinks Obama’s, at triple the cost, were wonderful; that thinks Bush exercising daily was a waste of presidential time, but Obama exercising is a great example for the public to control weight and stress; that picked over every line of Bush’s military records, but never demanded that Kerry release his; that slammed Palin, with two years as governor, for being too inexperienced for VP, but touted Obama, with three years as senator, as potentially the best president ever. Wonder why people are dropping their subscriptions or switching to Fox News? Get a clue. I didn’t vote for Bush in 2000, but the media and Kerry drove me to his camp in 2004.
I’m tired of being told that out of “tolerance for other cultures,” we must let Saudi Arabia use our oil money to fund mosques and madrassa Islamic schools to preach hate in America , while no American group is allowed to fund a church, synagogue or religious school in Saudi Arabia to teach love and tolerance.
I’m tired of being told I must lower my living standard to fight global warming, which no one is allowed to debate. My wife and I live in a two-bedroom apartment and carpool together five miles to our jobs. We also own a three-bedroom condo, where our daughter and granddaughter live. Our carbon footprint is about 5% of Al Gore’s, and if you’re greener than Gore, you’re green enough.
I’m tired of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I must help support and treat them, and pay for the damage they do. Did a giant germ rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and stuff white powder up their noses while they tried to fight it off? I damn sure think druggies chose to take drugs. And I’m tired of harassment from cool people treating me like a freak when I tell them I never tried marijuana.
I’m tired of illegal aliens being called “undocumented workers,” especially the ones who aren’t working, but are living on welfare or crime. What’s next? Calling drug dealers “Undocumented Pharmacists?” And, no, I’m not against Hispanics. Most of them are Catholic, and it’s been a few hundred years since Catholics wanted to kill me for my religion. I’m willing to fast-track for citizenship any Hispanic person who can speak English, doesn’t have a criminal record, and who is self-supporting without family on welfare, or who serves honorably for three years in our military. Those are the citizens we need.
I’m tired of latte liberals and journalists, who would never wear the uniform of the Republic themselves, or let their entitlement-handicapped kids near a recruiting station, trashing our military. They and their kids can sit at home, never having to make split-second decisions under life and death circumstances, and bad-mouth better people than themselves. Do bad things happen in war? You bet. Do our troops sometimes misbehave? Sure. Does this compare with the atrocities that were the policy of our enemies for the last fifty years and still are? Not even close. So here’s the deal. I’ll let myself be subjected to all the humiliation and abuse that was heaped on terrorists at Abu Ghraib or Gitmo, and the critics can let themselves be subject to captivity by the Muslims, who tortured and beheaded Daniel Pearl in Pakistan, or the Muslims who tortured and murdered Marine Lt. Col. William Higgins in Lebanon, or the Muslims who ran the blood-spattered Al Qaeda torture rooms our troops found in Iraq, or the Muslims who cut off the heads of schoolgirls in Indonesia, because the girls were Christian. Then we’ll compare notes. British and American soldiers are the only troops in history that civilians came to for help and handouts, instead of hiding from in fear.
I’m tired of people telling me that their party has a corner on virtue, and the other party has a corner on corruption. Read the papers; bums are bipartisan. And I’m tired of people telling me we need bipartisanship. I live in Illinois , where the “Illinois Combine” of Democrats has worked to loot the public for years. Not to mention the tax cheats in Obama’s Cabinet.
I’m tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers and politicians of both parties talking about innocent mistakes, stupid mistakes or youthful mistakes, when we all know they think their only mistake was getting caught. I’m tired of people with a sense of entitlement, rich or poor.
Speaking of poor, I’m tired of hearing people with air-conditioned homes, color TVs and two cars called poor. The majority of Americans didn’t have that in 1970, but we didn’t know we were “poor.” The poverty pimps have to keep changing the definition of poor to keep the dollars flowing.
I’m real tired of people who don’t take responsibility for their lives and actions. I’m tired of hearing them blame the government, or discrimination or big-whatever for their problems.
Yes, I’m damn tired. But I’m also glad to be 63. Because, mostly, I’m not going to have to see the world these people are making. I’m just sorry for my granddaughter.

I don’t see how throwing money at Natoma’s problem helps Michelle Obam’s children . Everybody dies , some get sick first .

This is pathetic of our Apologizer In Chief. He is grasping at straws now.
Personalizing a sympathy story to promote an unconstitutional power grab by the federal government is just an act of desperation and it won’t work.
Echos of Copenhagen are resounding now.

I have much compassion for Natoma. I’m sure her trial with cancer is something none of us ever want to face ourselves. My question though, is this: if Natoma is a single lady, and not a rich one by any means, why did she not apply for Medicaid? Would she have been rejected? And if she had been, why? Just some questions that need to be answered, since, after all, Medicaid is a GOVERNMENT system, and one that should be held accountable, as insurance companies, as to who is covered, how much it costs, and coverage for pre-existing conditions. Does anyone know anything about this?

Shoe ,,, I believe Medicaid covers the indigent. She would have to spend her money first. So, she wants first class treatment for a terminal disease — wants us to pay the bill so she can will her belongings to her kids. It’s easy.

if Obama was going after egregious profits, I could support him. He isn’t. He’s doing the politically expedient, going after Companies that earn 5% profit instead of those with margins exceeding 600%.
Posted by: mitchscove | Mar 15, 2010 6:14:26
Frankly, I don’t believe you, but that’s neither here not there. I’ve found that Republicans often come up with one excuse or another when it comes to failing to address problems or support solutions. Perhaps, you’re not a Republican but an “independent” or “moderate” who leans Republican– they too have a lot of excuses. While it is true that Pharma and the health care provider complex make more in profits than insurance providers; however, they also provide services and innovation in various ways– though not in terms of delivery and payment. The insurance industry is a middle man that thrives on the status quo and has failed to innovate and solve problems. It also spends inordinate amounts of money on lobbying and negative campaigns.

Posted by: mitchscove | Mar 15, 2010 6:17:49 PM
Well, that’s part of my question. What is the ‘cut off’ for income to receive Medicaid? Did she even apply?
If Obama and the Dems want to use this woman as one of their ‘props’ to pass the bill, the least they can do is give us the WHOLE story. Maybe uncovering more about Medicaid would give people some insight into what happens when Government steps in, yet doesn’t have to play by the same rules they want to impose on insurance companies.

Facts are facts.
Posted by: mitchscove | Mar 15, 2010 6:40:22 PM
That’s pretty humorous coming from someone who is obviously part of the climate disinformation campaign (or fails to understand statistics and science and spreads lies anyway, take your pick) and who offers up a defective link. LOL. What am I supposed to be looking at, specifically and I’ll google it later? Dollars spent on lobbying and negative campaigning? Exec salaries and bonuses? Fuel costs for corporate jets to DC and back? Something related to their failure to innovate when it comes to payment and delivery

Posted by: mitchscove | Mar 15, 2010 6:55:44 PM
Okay, I have things to do. Its pretty clear you don’t understand some of the issues. Negotiation of PPO rates did come out of the efforts in the 90s, but I worked for managed care companies and insurance companies for several years, and there is more that could be done if the momentum wasn’t more toward maintaining the status quo. Watch Moyers’ pieces on the topic, and read up on what Wendell Potter has to say.

Shoe,
I don’t know anyone that’s been on Medicaid. My father had Medicare and TriCare. My mother died of esophageal cancer in 2007. Bills for procedures that were never performed were coming in after my mother’s death. My father reported the fraud to Medicare. Just “Funny Money” to them. No response.
A prominent FL hospital made alot of money and pretty much killed my mother, but not before they made a mint from the Medicare idiots in DC.
Unfortunately, Obama’s anecdotes blasted on national TV don’t include stories like mine that don’t support the HC Insurance Reform dogma. Too, bad — I now lost two parents that were well insured — due to a Healthcare system that’s diseased — and the Democrats are so well paid off that the problems will never be addressed.

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Shoe, because you can’t be accepted for Medicaid if you have the dignity and self-respect to work and earn money. Medicaid is available only to people with limited income. According to the 2010 guidelines, a single person is eligible for Medicaid with an annual income of $8,479 or less ($707 a month or less). Natoma, like me, is self-employed; she operates a business that generates income (presumably) higher than that. Therefore, she is ineligible for Medicaid. Yet she can’t afford to pay the skyrocketing premiums for private health insurance either. She is not alone. The self-employed people in the middle class are always the ones who get squeezed.

Obama was there to save his butt.
Waterloo

After watching Obama and the democratic party trash just about every democratic ideal the party ever had
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Hogwash. Please provide ALL of your documentation of this . . . it’s nonsense meant to smear the President and the Democrats.
Start providing backup for these groundless accusations.

And a little background..Natomas mom is an officer at SEIU !
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What? Just mentioning SEIU is supposed to be an intelligent ‘argument’ and automatically win something?
Nice try. It isn’t and it doesn’t.

Less will get decent care, bet the farm.
Posted by: mjishernameo | Mar 15, 2010 8:38:12 PM
If you’re talking about the Republican plans put forth, that’s absolutely true as they separate the healthy and wealthy from the sick and middle and lower classes, giving those who don’t need it most the best deals and benefits and increasing costs while decreasing benefits for those who need quality coverage.
Other than that, your post is just disinformation, Obama-bashing and fearmongering.
Those who support health care reform believe in real people and doing the humane, compassionate and civilized thing over windfall profits and an unsustainable status quo.

The argument is made that not passing a bill will create an aura of failure around the administration and the Democrats, hurting them much more than passing a bill with a bare majority in the face of public opinion.
Possibly moderate and conservative Democrats in districts taken by either Bush or McCain, the calculus is different. Those members, who are probably the key to assembling a majority, are probably thinking that they’re in some trouble either way considering the general anti-Democrat mood, but that helping to make sure no bill is passed will earn them more credit in their home districts than standing idly by while it passes.
The search for votes will almost always include favors paid for by taxpayers, and “reconciliation” is a process almost guaranteed to produce polarization rather than reconciliation.
But here’s a good bet: The Democratic Party will never be the same. Democrats have been arguing with each other about what kind of country this is, and what kind of party they should be. Will America move even more toward a “European style” welfare state?

She is receiving care right this minute. She qualifies for financial aid and is not going to lose her house.
Barack Obama is an execrable liar.

Posted by: TX-MBell | Mar 15, 2010 11:34:43 PM
Ah yes, the grand conspiracy theory of those evil Democrats . … sure thing.

Obama’s statement that insurance companies are only returning $900 in benefits for every $10,000 they take in revenues stands diametrically opposed to a statement made by Jonathan Karl, last week, that insurance companies are only earning a profit of four percent. I’m not quite sure how Karl’s conclusion was reached, but I would sooner believe Karl than a man whose entire presidency hangs on successfully passing an insurance bill by the end of the week.

Obama’s statement that insurance companies are only returning $900 in benefits for every $10,000 they take in revenues
Posted by: Lenn Zonder | Mar 16, 2010 12:57:33 AM
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Lenn the President referred directly and
specifically to Natoma Canfield’s situation – and quoted figures from her payments and benefits received. That was the situation with her payments and benefits.

More sob stories and child human shields to sell the greatest ponzi scheme ever.

Now we are hearing the House will try to pass the Bill without voting on it.
Cram what where?
This must be the parachuting in that Pelosi mentioned.
I sense a revolt brewing. And then Obama asking for emergency powers. Where have I heard of that before? Star Wars… Oh yeah; early 20th Century Germany!

Medicaid does not cover everyone unless you have a disabling illness.

Does he really – reallly? – think what he’s proposing is going to cure this kind of problem? Anyone who does needs to read the healthcare bill … really read it. This is a political stretch for more power and it will not take care of the people that need taking care of. It will just cost all of us a small fortune. STOP IT NOW.

Now I know why Obama is stayint clear of Washington these days making redundant speeches about dying folk without healthcare……Barack, we all have those stories….but we are Americans, and we do the best we can do under the circumstances. Anyway, while you are chewing up mileage in these rough times, you have Pontius Pelosi dragging up the old deeming routine. Ain’t that cute….that way we have no vote on healthcare………what a lot of Demoncrat Deeming Do. Why don’t people who say they want to govern, govern. This gameplaying charade really must stop……or deem a 3 party…or 3, the way it is going….for the next Congress. I have never been so embarassed by my government. Simply, it stinks!