Rep. Larson: ‘We Have the Votes’

People who are against revamping healthcare are either crazy, brainwashed by GOP scare tactics, or in favor of killing U.S. citizens. I love when people call Obama a lier and they supported a guy who put us into a war (wasting billions of dollars) based on lies and fear. THis plan is actually good for america and you all want to shoot it down. I am a doctor and fully support this bill. Every day there are people who cannot afford the treatments they need or have such bad insurance policies and payments are refused. Wake up people THIS ISN”T ABOUT DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS. IT IS ABOUT THE PEOPLE. VOTE YES ON THIS BILL!!

Congratulations Mr. President and Madam Speaker, you are in the process of passing the legislation that will save millions of lives and prevent financial ruin. That is why so many GOPpers are histrionic and screeching on every website they can find today.

Karl Rove is on This Week once again trying to re-write history. His claim that the Bush years did not create the deficit is completetly, shamefully a total lie. The commentator is woefully inadequate at keeping him from interrupting, propagandizing. I just turned the channel to Cspan.
Looking forward to the vote. Hopefully this will be the door opening to a single payer system that will save even more money.

Thank you Democrats. You will make history that even, our grand children will remember. I sorry for republicans that will lose fat checks from Fortune 500 companites especially from Insurance companies.

Let’s face it the GOP sucks!!!

If this bill passes, the government will be in charge of your healthcare NOT your doctor. The majority of the benefits (roughly 95%) won’t even start until 2013. If this is SO urgent, why is that? Taxes start immediately though. The same people who have run the Post Office into the ground, stolen from Social Security (we’re having to borrow the money to pay benefits now), close to bankrupting Medicare & Medicare, are the ones who will be in charge of your health. Are you scared? You should be.

jacksawyer, you missed one option. those of us have been around long enough to know that the government never has and never will provide an entitlement program at or under budget that provides even 75% of what was promised. to be sure, the only people who are “crazy” or “brainwashed” are those who for some reason believe that because the republicans are no longer in the majority and because obama was elected that government is to be trusted. populism is bunk…and all the democrats are currently selling is populist, class warfare…presenting themselves as saviors and heroes. and clearly you’ve bought it hook line and sinker, which is clear from your “opponents obviously want people to die” absurdity. just tell me, what has instilled in you such faith in the government?

so what you are saying is allow our country to be attacked by fanatics- lunatics rather than defend it by doing something about it? That isn’t fear, that is being proactive. The problem with this health care program is corrupt politics as usual. Special interest deals being given for the favor of a vote. That is where the true problem exists with those that oppose it.

The tea partiers behavior is disgusting and motivated in large part by Glenn Beck and FoxNews! Mob mentality is sickening.
Pass HCR!
I loved watching Rove get so po’d and had no reply to the Prescription Drug Bill the GOP passed without funding!

You may have the votes now but come November, you want be able to find them nor can you bribe for them. Your crooked ACORN organization has collapsed just like your party will. There is a 3′rd branch of the government that Obama will have to deal with and they can’t be bribed or threatened.

The hate, vitriol and lunacy of these fringe groups represent the real threat to the Republic.
I guess I’m one of the lucky ones seeing as how my employer’s insurance plan only went up 18% this year.

When Social Security was passed, it was meant to be a supplement for retirement, there were 15 workers to every worker and very few people lived past 62. Medicare was originally a volunteer program as companies provided medical insurance for there retirees and the avg life span in the 1960′s was 62-65. Are you getting my point? neither program was expected to be used by very many people. Now we have Government takeover of our insurance, forcing people to buy insurance so others can have insurance and a takeover of how students will get education loans. Next, they will tell colleges what to teach and students what they have to study and more importantly who will even go to college. Middle class families are going to pay higher taxes and see their children shut out of loans. Remember Obama said he was for “redistibution of wealth” but no one believed him.

Parasites? Nanny state? Socialist? This is all very odd seeing as how millions of people are about to buy insurance from for-profit insurance companies.

The only thing people remember the GOP for in healthcare is trying to kill Medicare and then creating a Doughnut Hole. I thought Doughnut Holes were best left to Krispy Kreme.

I also hope that the people screaming refuse to accept Medicare and Social Security. As a matter of principle.

If the democrats pass this bill by using underhanded tricks, they are going to pay in November. The American people don’t want this bill and they are going to throw the bums out.

I applaud the President, Democrats, and few Republicans that helped get us to this point. The Bill is not perfect, but with today’s two party system it’s the best we can get. People who cry socialism are just misinformed mindless sheep led by conservative entertainment crazy talkers. God bless them and all Americans.

This is an infringement of my constitutional rights. You cannot force me at gun-point to pay for my life. If I dont wanna pay car insurance, i dont drive. How am i not supposed to pay health insurance? Not live!? This will be overturned, why cant anyone recognize it.

Where was Bohners outrage over the blackwater deals when they along with cheney and rumsfeld took billions of tax money to fight phoney wars. That was money unaccounted for and lost. This is going to actually help people not kill them.

I have been watching THIS WEEK for years and am totally appalled at the lack of control today’s moderator had over Karl Rove as he spouted his mantra of fear and lies. He is a bully allowed to hijack the show. ABC should be ashamed. I have never seen anything like it however, you should have planned for this type of behavior from Rove since that is his mode of operation.
It all makes sense when watching the rest of the show…the so called moderator revealed his bias acting as an additional republican on the show. Again, ABC you should be ashamed.

whathappened08 | Mar 21, 2010 9:58:45 AM….That’s not included in Obama’s “fundamental change of America”.

the democrats don’t care about the middle class or even people with a good non union job. all they are is a revenue stream to pay for their core consituency, the unions, poor, and minority’s.The massive income transfer is bad enough except it will bankrupt us. Name one socialist country that has a high standard of living? think Greece Iceland as broke countries. Ask people with a job, in England if they like their healthcare. only good thing that may come out of this ,is for democrats to lose congress by a big enough margin to repeal this idiotic bill

If the hosts of This Week cannot control their own format, there is really not much use in having the programs on air. Rove’s mike should have been cut off. Plouffe needed to grow a pair and interrupt and talk over Rove. There’s really nothing cute about Rove’s bullying, nothing edifying about his non-stop lies.
Lordy, how I miss Dr. Dean! He would not have put up with Rove’s nonsense.

I want single payer medicare for all!

Will, I don’t have complete faith that all this will work out as planned. We must try something because the system as it stands now is not good. I can read between the lines and I know that it is no where near as bad as the GOP will make you believe and not as good as Obama will make us believe. Reading over the material I have concluded that it is definitely worth trying.

Unbelieveable! Karl Rove rants on creating more FEAR and dissident concerning Health Care and ABC allows this. News networks are out to “create” news. ABC along with all networks share in the responsibility of this insane, hyped up rhetoric that is tearing this country apart.

Any piece of law that is passed on a totally partisan basis is a very bad piece of law. This is a major piece of law and the fact that it is totally partisan without any doubt makes it even worse.
People rail against gridlock, but it is rather the lack of gridlock when we get into trouble. Any time that either party has complete control of the government we are in for trouble.
This bill should fail and they should all start over addressing each issue as an individual bill instead of an all encompassing bill where they (Democrats or Republicans) can load it with all sorts of pork and kickbacks.
Bills should be limited to 100 pages and should be written in plain english and should be required to be posted for a full 30 days prior to any vote. If anything including spelling corrections is changed to the posted bill then the clock should start again.

I just heard Steny Hoyer say that they don’t have the votes yet. What are you trying to do ABC? Report the TRUTH for a change. and stop trying to press Obama/Pelosi agenda.

Republicans – go eat crow.
Your supply side economics has failed us everytime….. reagan, bush etc
Your war-mongering has wasted precious resources (you only cared for the increased GDP, which made your friends rich).
You do not see a benefit in the bill because your rich guys will have to shell a few pennies more… and more importantly healthcare is the new 3rd rail…. YOU took your position and lost….now see how many of you are re-elected

Republicans and their little band of supporters must be in total fear of healthcare passing. If it does, their scorecard going into November elections will be that they lost in 2006 and lost big in 2008. And now they have supported nothing since and were not able to stop their rallying cry program: ineffectual and immaterial!
They will not be the party of “no” they will be the party of “nothing.”

Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va., “it’s because [the Democrats] are using everything in their political power – and even some things, they shouldn’t have – in their political power, to cut political deals to deliver the votes.”
Hey, Cantor, THAT’S WHAT THEY’RE ELECTED TO DO.

It’s time to arm America and take the country back!
Where is the birth certificate?
Iraq Vet.

I thought that congress was elected to represent the people and to be there voice not to ignore everyone and fill there pockets full of money and ruin the country.

just watched abc with Rove and Pflouffe, the commentator deferred to Rove to interrupt and dominate the conversation, was the commentator borrowed from Fox for the day

You must ask yourself why people come to America for life-saving operations or treatment; because we have one of the best medical industries in the world. Also, you must ask yourself why there is so much secrecy in passing this Bill. Congress doesn’t pass “good” bills in secret and try trickery to get it done. It has BAD written all over it. Do we need a better system? Yes. Is this Bill the answer? No!
Also, is it true that this Bill will include hiring 12,000 new IRS agents to enforce the “mandatory” requirement of having the government’s health care?
I’m glad I retired from the U.S. Army and have one of the best health care insurance programs in America — Tricare. If I lose Tricare due to this Bill after all I had to go through to earn it, I will, as a Veteran, feel betrayed.
It’s time to put smart people in charge of a new health care system but not Congress. Remember, the private sector institutions will always be more efficient; more effective; less bureaucratic and just plain better than the government agencies which run programs. If you think that a government ran health care system is going to be “great,” you had better think again. I spent over 20 years working for the government; I know how frustrating and bureaucratic it is. The supporters of this Bill will be in for a rude awakening.
Hopefully the Supreme Court (the one which Obama insulted at his first State of the Union address) will see through this Bill once it is challenged.
Lastly, for the record, this is NOT the Constitutional government which I fought for. Today’s Congress doesn’t deserve our nation’s military service…today’s Congress has been disloyal to our Constitution.
God Bless America.

Thank you Republican Party for not giving us a real health care reform, thank you GOP for standing up for big business and to hell with the American people. Thank you Republican Party for another bill screwed up and not giving the American people the right to free health care like the rest of the world.
My wife has insurance in Canada and her health insurance is so much better then what we have now and what we are going to get! Thank you Republican Party for doing the spin that you do so well in lying to the American party. I would rather have the money taken out of my pay check and not have to worry about paying a grand a month for my insurance, not having to worry about co-pay, no being ripped off by the drug companies.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have the votes? So why hasn’t it passed?

I support the bill because I believe it will help the country. In fact, I know it will when I see how petty and shallow the remarks are from the opposition.

This healthcare plan will work best for those who don’t pay ’til they need it. The fines are cheaper than the monthly payments. Just save what you would pay in fees each month in a savings account and pay your fines when the healthcare police show up and you’ll be much better off financially. What a wonderful piece of work! And if you really want to get ahead, don’t pay the fines, just go to jail, where you get free room and board at the cost of the rest of the taxpayers, while racking up interest on your savings.

If you want to look at a model of how this plan will work take a look at the Massachusetts health care system. After 4 years it is broke and Massachusetts state government is relying on the federal government for bail-outs. Why would any rational thinking person think this plan would be any different. It is too expensive, doesn’t address the health care delivery system, and costs will NOT be contained. It is tax hike on ALL working Americans (price increases for drugs passed on to consumers as well as other medical items and devices).

Ronald Reagan said that when people want to take over the government, they would first take over the health care system. You may have ‘bought’ enough votes for today, but in Nov and every election after that, we will have the votes.

I love these posts that try and put down republicans bcause they are not for this bill. It shows you do not understand anything about what is going on right in front of your noses..
This has nothing to do with the make- believe 2 party system. Rublican/Democrates; Who cares? It is a 2 party joke anyway.
You want this to pass just to stick it to the Republican Party but this bill does nothing for real insurance/health care issues. It doesn’t kick in for 3 to 4 years; all it does is give the government more power. The same government that ran SS and the Post office to bankruptcy But I am sure that can take care of your health care, Yea, right.
Stop acting like this a football came and hold all these clowns accountable to what WE the People really want.
Some how these fools made you believe that Spending Trillion Dollars (Which we don’t have) will save America 1 Billion so we are coming out ahead..

The passing of the bill will devastate this country’s ability to pay its future bills and to draw down the debt. We are being lied to about the true cost.
It will hamstring the government which in turn will force it to raise taxes on business and citizens. It will make us less competitive in the global economy and the quality of health care will deteriorate.

Maybe I’m mistaken, but nowhere have I seen anyone say “Do Nothing” what is being said is THIS BILL is wrong, bad, not wanted by the people. Health care needs to be reformed to where it is affordable for the people AND a place where Doctors, Nurses, etc. can make a decent living. This Bill is not the answer. ALL Americans need to agree the titles of Dems, GOP, Conservatives, Libs, do not matter. Correct steps to help the people do. End this debate. kill this bill it is not the correct step for anyone.

This is a sad day…apparently the democrats failed basic math. It’s simple people…you don’t raise taxes in a recession if you want jobs.
All those saying pass this have never had to live with socialized medicine. My entire family is British and I know just what that means. Its a complete total abject FAILURE, and you’re idiots for wanting it. It’s bankrupted the UK and made it a 3rd world power.
Altight – so be it – my money and I will go elsewhere…as will many doctors (which is what happened when this passed in the UK) Good luck with finding what you will need in the future. You are going to need it…

If this passes, I hope America fights everything that this Congress and Obama try to do. We can no longer trust these crooked dealing politicians to be in government, they don’t work for us. Push for new laws to control what Congress does. Repeal any laws that allowed them to get around the Constitution. If we don’t stop them now, it all goes down hill. It worked for 200 years and the world looked to us, now they wish to destroy that.

This bill is actually for the middle class, the one not poor enough and have no jobs and especially for the one who have existing medical condition. It doesn’t matter for the very poor and the very rich. Because the very rich always buy High Cost Healthcare Insurance by themselves for tax deduction and the very poor always have Medicaid.

Larson is a bald-faced liar!!! No staffer will be without insurance if their rep loses their seat. Ever heard of COBRA, you Bozo? That’s a federal program, too. Also, people on a gurney being wheeled into the OR and having their insurance pulled from them is another BS myth. It just doesn’t happen.
Yes, the health insurance industry needs some serious tweaking but this total re-vamp is a scourge we will never be able to pay for.

I voted for Obama (there wasn’t really any other choice after eight years of the gross incompetence and stupidity of the Bush era). Sadly, my pre-election fears about Obama have almost all come true. Before becoming President of the most powerful country on earth, Obama was a “community organizer,” a law professor, and a half-term senator who had accomplished absolutely nothing of note in Congress. Now we are paying the price for the utter lack of meaningful experience Obama brought to office with him. He has turned out to be huge disappointment, and his so-called “health reform” bill is just one glaring example showing why Obama’s presidency will end in failure. Obama showed no real leadership on health care reform, and made the colossal and unforgiveable error of turning the health care reform agenda over to Congress. Just as anyone with half a brain would have predicted, special interests stole the initiative and created the gigantic, expensive and pork-laden bill that will now become our “health care reform.” Obama’s health care reform will dramatically increase taxes for those of us who still pay taxes, provide health care to illegal immigrants and other low-income persons, and leave the rest of us to pay even more for health care insurance. What kind of “reform” is that? How stupid does Obama think the American public is? Under Bush, and now Obama, this Republic has slipped into a rapid downward spiral from which it is unlikley to recover. We are fast becoming a third world nation in every sense of the term: our government is broken and ineffective, our middle class is under attack and disappearing, ever larger numbers of young people are uneducated and unskilled, and income and wealth have increasingly become concentrated in the few hands of the ultra-wealthy. Now with our country being invaded by waves of millions of unskilled, uneducated, non-English-speaking illegal immigrants — and the federal government doing essentially nothing about it — the coup de grace will be administered to the Republic over the next few decades. Send your kids to college in Canada, Australia, New Zealand or Europe. We’re finished.

The posting by Dave, who is quite happy to fire all his employees and retire to his own well-funded retirement, says all that needs to be said about the so-called “Christian Values” Republicans.

There are many opinions cast about today and postings that offers a variety of opinions. Both for and against. The truth of the matter is only time will tell who was right and who was wrong. HOLD ON SELF!!!! We do have a history of budget busting social programs. We have a history of congress and presidents going back many administrations that couldn’t get it right. Spending the people’s money properly and having a balanced budget is not a priority for either the Dems or Reps. The survival of our country is much more important than this liberal, progressive and socialist president making history with the passage of this bill. His idealogy and ego are the guiding forces of his day to day words and actions.
2013, after the elections of 2012 should bring massive investigations and hearings on the actions of this administration. With the demise of the
Democratic Party in ’10 and ’12, if the Republican Party doesn’t investigate this administration they will also be damaged if they don’t.
I am an American first and foremost. However the leftist, progressive and socialist direction of this country is not what the founders of our country envisioned. If they have had such thoughts that what is happening may actually take place in the future they certainly would have written into the Constitution wording that would certainly prevent such stupidity.

This isn’t about health care–it’s about control.
Once government takes power for itself, it NEVER EVER gives it back. Soon all of this will become entitlements in perpetuity.
The Baby Boom generation wanted old people out twenty years ago so that they could have cushy jobs. Now that they’ve reached the same age, they want to hold onto those jobs, maximize benefits (health) for instance, and they have selfishly spent on themselves at the cost of the next generation or two.
Pathetic.

Obama obviously is an enemy of the constitution. In his own words, it limits what government can do “to” the people. When government wants to do something “to” the people, that’s dictatorship. Representatives do things “for” the people, representing what the people want and need.

This bill was created by the insurance companies. for the first 4 years they will rack in the profits because anyone without insurance will recieve a 2500 dollar tax penalty and the only place to get insurance is the insurance companies. all the goodies that this bill provides wont be in effect until 2014.

40% of Americans don’t pay taxes and now we want to give them free health care too? Good job Democrats

Karl Rove’s shrill tirade while David Plouffe waited for him to stop shouting speaks volumes about the Republicans’ fear that they are on the verge of losing. Funny that the stategies of deception and propaganda that worked when the Republicans got us into the war in Iraq just aren’t working this time. I want to live long enough to see Republicans eat their bitter words.

Oneil wrote: “What confuses me is the fact that Congressmen are getting spat on and abused in Washington by Tea Party activists and the so-called Mainstream Media ignores it.” You’re joking, right? It was on the front page of every major news outlet in the country this morning, despite the fact that no one has produced an audio recording of the alleged slurs. Strange, that, in this day and age.
It’s beginning to look like Obamacare may go down in flames. Maybe there’s a dog after all.

ENOUGH!!! Name calling and misrepresenting what the opposite position is is getting us nowhere. The fact that there is this much negative feeling about this bill proves this is not the proper bill to fix the problem. That this is at least something is not enough to pass the bill. It must be the correct step for everyone.

Bless every politician who votes yes for this bill. It will prove to be very good for the health and finances of our citizens and will be a boon for our economy. Every person supporting this bill should help their congress representative this fall win, if they voted yes on this bill.
It takes a lot of courage to do the right thing if it risks your job. I will be supporting my congressman this fall with time and dollars for this reason. (The insurance industry is already gunning for him!)
For those folks against this bill, ask yourself if you’ve read it or just believing what others say about it. And with all their negative comments, notice how they don’t quote the bill. Their ‘interpretations’ of the bill are outright lies, so they can’t find quotes to back those lies up! Think about it.

Once signed into law, this legislation will establish that the United States is a Christian nation… but just barely. “We are our brothers’ keepers. We are our sisters’ keepers.”

I’m a doctor and I didn’t go to school for twelve years to be told how to treat a patient, how much I can charge and when I will get paid. This healthcare bill is simply another entitlement program. Stay tuned, immigration reform (amnesty) is up next and there will be even more indigents added to our already overburdened healthcare system.

Obama’s zeal to make a name for himself in history is boundless. It seems with this bill, he’s trying to make himself as infamous as possible.

Obama sure is turning out to be the great unifier and post partisan President the media claimed he would be, isnt he?

Absolutely some Democrats will lose their seats over this in November, but I have no doubt that Reid, Pelosi, et. al. will make sure they are well taken care of in exchange for their votes when they are ousted. When the majority of Americans paying the insurance premiums for their themselves and their families see the reality of what it costs them to pay the insurance premiums of 30 million others in addition, and that those premiums continue to rise as the increase in health care costs remain unabated, I’m sure that will be many more legislators losing their seats in 2012.

This bill seems to be a big step in the right direction, but it’s only a step. Without a “public option”, the USA will have a hard time developing the high quality of health care other nations enjoy. And yes, I’ve experienced health care in Europe. It’s far, far ahead of anything we have here in the USA today, unless one has several million dollars to spend.

{But if Doctors took a 40% pay cut, who would make their beach house and plane payments?}…..
And will you and others pay for their educational costs of 8-10 years of schooling + internship? Will you pay their exorbitant cost for malpractice insurance? Tort reform is not even addressed in this HCR! And you really believe that doctors will take on more medicaid patients with new HCR? Dream on!
The reimbursement rate to docs under medicaid is ludicrous!!!! How would you like to get paid less than what you were owed for work performed???
If doctors, nurse practitioners, and health care personnel take a 40% pay cut then many will quit their practices and find other ways to make a living.

Hi Becky Rice,
I think I have paid enough tax for working 25 years in 2002. However, when I lost jobs and had to stay home for 2 years because I can’t find the jobs 8 years ago, I couldn’t go to emergency room because I didn’t afford to have standard medical insurance when I cut my finger. The one I had that time only covered after I had paid $5000 for each hospital visit. Now, I have a job but my finger still hurt when I touch the keyboard to do my jobs or exchange message with you or others.

Would any freedom-loving American vote for government to force them to buy meat from them or face fines or imprisonment? I chose not to buy healthcare insurance, but pay as I go, and so far, since I entered the workforce 26 years ago I have saved thousands upon thousands of dollars in fees, which I have invested back into our economy. Healthcare fees are not in my budget. If I had to pay them right now, I would probably lose my home. I would be forced to either disobey the law or lose my home. Say goodbye to the American dream if this passes.

Angie,
Let fire these Reps and Dems in this November election. Some of them might learn how important the HealthCare Insurance is when they lose their jobs and are denied by their big friend Insurance companies because they have existing medical condition.

They refuse to listen to the will of the people, in their arrogance, in their conceit for the people, they are destroying this republic that the founding fathers fought so hard for.
But in the end they will loose!

Obviously the GOPs, conservatives, anti-healthcare bill & anti-reform posters here work for the insurance industry, wall street and banks. They have the best entitlement of the status quo. Who wouldn’t fight a $1.5T 1-yr wall street bailout entitlement compared to this $0.9T 10 year entitlement of the American people? Only the republicans on wall street payrolls.

If this passes, the economic recovery that is currently underway is going to stop. The deficits will become huge. America cannot afford this bill.

Socialized health care. Seriously some of you idiots really think the federal government can run health care without screwing it up. A vote for this bill is a voter who will be unemployed come November.

Obviously, health care in this nation is not as good or as available as it could be. However, decreasing our choices and taking over the health care by a monolithic organization – the government – is NOT the solution. More freedom, not less freedom is a big part of the answer. Increase competition among insurers, not decrease it with a government run option is part of the answer. The power elite of the world ALWAYS fear freedom and want to replace it with control. This is simply another form of dictatorship. We no longer need to be the blind followers of the blind leaders that always lead us into the ditch. This bill must be opposed by freedom loving people everywhere and we need the time and space to help co-create a better system, without robbing us of our freedoms.

The government should not tell us to take care of our own. Then the government is the arbiter of who wins and who loses. Don’t support the right Union or Candidate – no kidney for you! My husband will require a kidney transplant soon. I hope that he gets it before all this crap is incorporated. The government may not like our politics, and when it gets down to the nitty-gritty, the health commissar may decide that it’s more important that the illegal alien (potential voter) gets the kidney, than my husband, who put himself through engineering school and paid taxes for a bunch of years. And you looters remember that the Democratic Party may NOT ALWAYS be in power. Turnabout will be fair play.
You idiots better start reading history, if you can find some that hasn’t been whitewashed. And that’s the problem, that’s what you have been taught – that socialism is good. Well, 160 million people died under socialism in the twentieth century. Socialism is Communism light. You’ll be working the rice paddy soon.

If this Healthcare Bill is so great why are the Democrats having such a hard time to come up with 216 votes in the House? Why is it that they will have to use reconciliation in the Senate to pass it with just 51 votes? One thing is for certain if it passes this will be an entirely Democrat partisan bill, with the majority of the American people against it. Come November we the Independents will balance the score, Democrats better start looking for work, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid you are history in 2010, Obama you will be history in 2012.

Rebecca,
The government always has the responsibility and the right to defend and protect the security, benefits for its citizens in similar to the parents, always have to work hard for the good of their children. This will never change today and tomorrow. Everyone goes against the will of the majorities will become history soon or later.
I have a good job today and good healthcare insurance coverage but I have to support the others who don’t have jobs and healthcare because I could be one of them tomorrow.

Jacksawyer—Will you say the same thing when the enforcing arm (irs) gets your bank account info ? Or when you learn (too late) that you or a loved one is not “economically viable” for treatment ?

The government should be looking at Massachusetts where we have had this same plan for a few years now.Itis called MassHealth and it is bankrupting the state.The Bill has cost more than anticipated and the premiums keep going up.Some hospitals have had to close.Even our own Sate treasurer is against the Government plan.When has the government run anything effeciently?

The GOP is out of touch with America????
So when did David Axelrod and Robert Gibbs give you those talking points?
The DNC is the one out of touch with the people. Many of them will be sacrificing their political futures at the altar of Obama and Pelosi. Even though their constituents don’t want it, they will do it. And for many of those doing it, they’ve been outright bribed ( NASA positions, special Medicare deals, Water supplies turned back on ) For those with the courage to vote against the bill, they will be attacked politically by the thugs of Obama pal Andy Stern’s SEIU.

He’s likely correct, the Socialists / Communists march in lock-step because while they love diversity of skin color and sexual orientation, they cannot tolerate diversity of thought.

I watched your “This Week” show today and was absolutely appalled that your host, I don’t know if it was Jake Tapper or not, let Karl Rove take total control of the debate. It shows me how biased ABC is for the republicans. It is well known what a liar and crook Karl Rove is. Actually, he should be in jail for treason, yet your station affords him all that time to spew his lies.
It will be a cold day before I watch abc again.

Thank you rich people for all the free drugs I’ll get . No more forging prescriptions. And when I need a fix I hope you rich bastards that are paying for it all this are behind me in line at the doctors office!

The Hippocratic Oath (Modern Version)[10]
“ I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:
I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.
I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.
I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon’s knife or the chemist’s drug.
I will not be ashamed to say “I know not,” nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient’s recovery.
I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.
I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person’s family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.
I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.
I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.
If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.”
No where does it state except where the government tells me to do otherwise. Under the current bill Doctors best option to fulfill there oath will be to quit.

Without rich people, many of us wouldn’t have jobs. The bile being spewed against capitalism is scary and telling.

This healthcare bill that doesnt even address the costs of care provided is the death nail to our economy. As insurance companies fold and cut employees and we all start lining up at the physcian assistants’ office as there will be not nearly be enough m.d.’s to go around we can thank the media for their willingness to go along with this administration without any objection keeping alot of Americans in the dark on crucial issues. Dem v.s Rep is like a game to them and they will say or spin any story for their team. We can thank the Big Unions too which by their own account paid Obama to take their members health care benefits off their books and onto the taxpayer. This president with such a weak resume was hidden from us by the media. It is only now we are starting to see this person has no intention of representing all Americans only those that contribute to his ongoing campaign toward a permanent welfare state. His words are mere speeches someone else jotted down for him. Obama, Gibbs and Axelrod all say they dont care about the “process” of getting this take over healtcare bill passed. Well the “process” happens to be LAW. the Constitution, if Obama doesnt defend it then Who will?

@rplat,
I’m sure you felt the same way about Code Pink? Enjoy the Dem party for the next couple of years because your party will have signed its own death wish if this garbage passes CLOWN.

I personally think that there is much reform that should be done, but don’t particularly like this bill. It is less painful than the house bill so I guess it is the least of two evils. The good thing is that the mid year elections will restore gridlock and make more such nonsense impossible. The problem with representatives is they become lawmakers and then listen to their parties and not their constituents.
My biggest lament is that it is obvious to me that America is sliding into the abyss of irrelevance. A dependent population of consumers that look to others to for guidance and are responsible for nothing. I don’t normally comment on these things but the bad grammar and spelling, vitriol and hyperbole was so depressing that I had to say something. I am headed to the store to get a Rosetta Stone package on Chinese so I can communicate with the new landlords, and a fifth of Makers Mark to feel better about it.

Personally, I’d love if everyone could have healthcare available at an affordable price and to be protected when the unexpected happens. There are items in this bill I can support and would make things better, but not at the cost of all the other junk in it. It seems that all the good ideas brought to Washington get twisted and ear-marked to the point that I can’t recognize that good idea anymore.
It should be concerning that the government wants to start ANOTHER huge, elaborate and costly program even though they can’t seem to control the rising costs of so many other programs currently driving us further and further in debt. I don’t believe them when they say it will save money.
There are far less radical things that can be done to drive down the costs of healthcare and make it more affordable for those who want it.
Start with tort reform. I had no idea that practically every doctor pays $30,000 to over $100,000 a year for malpractice insurance. The fear of being sued drives doctors to make a lot of decisions rather than what makes sense.
Or, if the government really wants to help why don’t we set a set price and subsidize insurance companies with huge strings attached to assist with these cases. Enforce “healthcare for all” by working with insurance companies. Expand coverage that way. Seriously, I’d rather have a set price to help the uninsured rather than the ridiculous ‘guestimations’ from congress.
My big point is many people, like me, are happy with my insurance the way it is. But it’s not perfect and I know there are others out there getting the short straw. This big change is scary though. We shouldn’t be pushing this through as quickly as possible because for some reason the more detail that is revealed from this bill the more waste I see. It’s politics as usual. It’s got a nice name, everyone is regurgitating the “good” while stuffing in more unrelated crap. I’m tired of it and honestly, I want them all out.
We need reform. Our government first, then these issues one at a time.

Republicans and Democrats remember the words of Abraham Lincoln but exchange “WAR” for “DEBATE.” We should all have respect for the opinions of our foes. Thanks to the men who framed our constitution we have a stable political process that allows for open and free debate and that has allowed the United States, with our small percentage of the world’s population, to outperform – economically and politically – the rest of the world. The seemingly rabid behavior of a few or our Republican representatives give a black eye to their party, what was my party. All of our elected representatives should bear in mind as Lincoln advised in his address “It is for us, the LIVING, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us…..at that time that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”
No one in our country as wealthy and powerful as the United States, should go without healthcare, especially while we’re waging war and the soldiers who are fighting come from the class of people who are denied that basic level of care. Affordable medical care provided to every American seems the minimum that we, as Americans, can offer to our citizens. If it’s good for the House, the Senate and government employees how could it be bad for every citizen? Our elected officials who VOTE NO should be ashamed: they can lifetime healthcare benefits that are better than any that can be purchased by a private citizen. It is private citizens who are footing the bill for their care.
The Gettysburg Address
Gettysburg, Pennsylvania
November 19, 1863
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate — we can not consecrate — we can not hallow — this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us — that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion — that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain — that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

I really think that using the whole Gettysburg address was a bit over the top. As a veteran and one who works every day in the shadow of Arlington I also think it trivializes the sacrifice of soldiers on any battlefield. Shame on you for even trying to make the analogy.

I think that a step has been made in the right direction. Is the new bill going to be available in book stores for sale? Also, is there anything in it that is as innovative as “mammograms for men”? Men do get breast cancer.