President Obama Compares Health Care Vote to Those for Civil Rights, Social Security, Medicare
EmailJake Tapper and Sunlen Miller:
To a young and raucous crowd at George Mason University’s Patriot Center this morning, President Obama cast the pending vote on health care reform in the pantheon of other great liberal legislative triumphs for Civil Rights and Social Security.
“In just a few days, a century-long struggle will culminate in a historic vote,” the President said. “We’ve had historic votes before. We had a historic vote to put Social Security in place to make sure that our elderly did not live out their golden years in poverty. We had a historic vote in civil rights to make sure that everybody was equal under the law.”
With a nod to the protracted fight, vote-whipping, and controversial bill-sweeteners such as the soon-to-be-killed “Cornhusker Kickback,” the president said that “as messy as this process is, as frustrating as this process is, as ugly as this process can be, when we have faced such decisions in our past, this nation, time and time again, has chosen to extend its promise to more of its people.”
The president reminded the crowd of apocalyptic warnings and once-unpopular legislation of the past. “You know, the naysayers said that Social Security would lead to socialism,” he said to laughter. “But the men and women of Congress stood fast and created that program that lifted millions out of poverty.”
Other cynics, he said, “warned that Medicare would lead to a government takeover of our entire health care system, and that it didn’t have much support in the polls. But Democrats and Republicans refused to back down, and they made sure that our seniors had the health care that they needed and could have some basic peace of mind.” He added that “previous generations, those who came before us, made the decision that our seniors and our poor, through Medicaid, should not be forced to go without health care just because they couldn’t afford it. Today it falls to this generation to decide whether we will make that same promise to hardworking middle-class families and small businesses all across America, and to young Americans like yourselves who are just starting out.”
Said the president, “I know this has been a difficult journey. I know this will be a tough vote. I know that everybody is counting votes right now in Washington. But I also remember a quote I saw on a plaque in the White House the other day. It’s hanging in the same room where I demanded answers from insurance executives and just received a bunch of excuses. And it was a quote from Teddy Roosevelt, the person who first called for health care reform — that Republican — all those years ago. And it said, ‘Aggressively fighting for the right is the noblest sport the world affords.’”
– Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller
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Somebody cue Joe Wilson.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | March 19, 2010, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
More baloney from the master
carnival barker known as Barack Obama!
Social Security, Medicare etc had
wide bi-partisan and public support!
By the way, Mr President, were you
aware of the fact that the
“Civil Rights Act” was passed by a
majority of Republicans as many
racist Democrats from the South
opposed it and voted No!
This bill is opposed by a majority of
the American People and does not have
bi-partisan support!
Posted by: reaganfan | March 19, 2010, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
By the way, Mr President, were you
aware of the fact that the
“Civil Rights Act” was passed by a
majority of Republicans as many
racist Democrats from the South
opposed it and voted No!
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The “Civil Rights Act” was passed by a majority of Democrats and a majority of Republicans.
Posted by: tierra | March 19, 2010, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
“We can ill-afford cost increases that place us at a disadvantage versus our global competitors,” said the letter signed by Gregory Folley, vice president and chief human resources officer of Caterpillar.
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Interesting – Canada has single payer, universal health care coverage with all the associated taxes for individuals and businesses and yet remains one of the strongest competitive economies in the global market.
Posted by: tierra | March 19, 2010, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Interesting – Canada has single payer…
Posted by: tierra |
Interesting – Massachusetts has universal care not unlike obamascare and you NEVER talk about it. Surely there is a developed set of talking points to rationalize that disaster.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | March 19, 2010, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
the President said. “We’ve had historic votes before. We had a historic vote to put Social Security in place to make sure that our elderly did not live out their golden years in poverty. We had a historic vote in civil rights to make sure that everybody was equal under the law.”
NoBo forgot a more recent Historic Vote.
We had a historic vote in Massachusetts to find a replacement for Ted Kennedy.
Posted by: Noz | March 19, 2010, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
What are rights as defined in the constitution. Health care is not one of them, and if it is it should be handed out under the 10th amendment. It is one thing to give out stuff when the nation is wealthy and prosperous, but the USA is broke and bankrupt so where does the money come from?
Posted by: Huh | March 19, 2010, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
tierra-Canada is a major net exporter of oil, timber, nickel, gold, silver, etc. They have an abundance of natural resources that they export in order to acquire wealth that can be applied to universal coverage. Of course the wait to have anything done up there is ridiculously long, but then no system is perfect. Again the nation is broke.
Posted by: Huh | March 19, 2010, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
“What are rights as defined in the constitution.”
Its funny that the founders actually debated doing the Bill of Rights because they were afraid that in the future Americans would be denied rights based on their not being explicitly listed there.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 19, 2010, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
“Interesting – Massachusetts has universal care not unlike obamascare and you NEVER talk about it”
The Pioneer Institute (a free market public policy think tank) gives the MA health care system overall as C.
Credit to tierra for not not blindly quoting bogus surveys like yourself.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 19, 2010, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
If ‘The “Civil Rights Act” was passed by a majority of Democrats and a majority of Republicans’ then why is Obama comparing health care legislation to the Civil Rights movement when only 35% of Americans favor it?
Hope and change . . . for 35% of Americans.
Posted by: Tom | March 19, 2010, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
bogus surveys
Posted by: Ryan C |
his poll, conducted by the Medicus Firm, a physician search and consulting outfit, found that 29.2% of the nearly 1,200 doctors it queried said they would quit or retire early if a health overhaul were passed into law. That number jumped to 45.7% – nearly identical to our own – if a public option were included.
The NEJM has distanced themselves from the survey.
So, what are the talking points? Why was the survey bogus? And see if you can’t limit your response to the survey results themselves without drifting off in to some aluminum cap conspiracy theory.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | March 19, 2010, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
why is Obama comparing health care legislation to the Civil Rights movement when only 35% of Americans favor it?
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The majority of Americans support the components of the bills – they do not like politicians in general and Congress in particular and they do not like the bickering, name calling and mean-spirited partisan politics during the process.
Posted by: tierra | March 19, 2010, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
The majority of Americans support the components of the bills…
Posted by: tierra |
Who you gonna believe, la tierra or those lying polls?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | March 19, 2010, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Ironic that in front of the 21st Century Iphone generation, used to maximum flexibility and individual liberty, the president calls for their submission to an oppressive plan from last century’s failed idealogies.
Big Government is not the answer, young people! You are being defrauded of your freedoms and your future financial prosperity.
Have your snowboarding accidents quickly now, and enjoy your visit to the hospitals. You will have something amazing to remember of the gleaming health care that “used to be”.
We can do better! Abort this bill.
Posted by: Carol | March 19, 2010, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
“So, what are the talking points? Why was the survey bogus?”
The “talking point” is the head hunting firm positing that future bad conditions mean you will need their services.
“The NEJM has distanced themselves from the survey.”
Yes after right wingers took something from their press release page and claimed it was.
Let me guess you still have surplus Y2K rations and believe that Coke beat Pesi in nationwide taste tests.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 19, 2010, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
“That number jumped to 45.7% – nearly identical to our own – if a public option were included”
ROFLMAO!
So your back up is the hacktacular Investor Business?
ROFLMAO!
The same group that claimed Stephen Hawking would be put to death if he had grown up in the UK completely unaware that he was a Citizen and resident and user of British national healthcare his entire life.
In other news the GOP faked Democratic memo has blown up in their faces with politico retracting it and GOP leadership running from it.
Tthe lesson as always? Right wingers lie.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 19, 2010, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Obama is either a compulsive liar, or he is totally self-delusional.
Or maybe he’s both. Yep, that’s it.
And Wicked Witch of the House Pelosi can start packing her collection of brooms and prepare to move to her new office in a broom closet located in the basement of the Capitol Building. She is an incompetent ideologue. In less than a year from now, she will be just an incompetent demwit house member who has no power to do any more damage.
Top three reasons to vote ‘em out:
First, they are trying to ram through the worst piece of crap in the history of America over the objections of a clear majority of Americans.
Second, they’re packing their crap bill full of smoke-and-mirrors gimmicks and payoffs that they know are necessary to get enough votes with COB issuing its fraudulent “tentative” conclusion that the bill “cuts” the deficit, just in time for the Big Vote.
Third, they are constantly lying about what they are doing, how they are doing it, and why they are doing it.
Less than a year from now, Obama & his demwit cohorts will be on the other end of the “reconciliation” tactic and the special “deem” rule that they are now so proud to use. There will then be a New Age of accountability for all the damage they are now doing. The thugs and crooks will pay dearly at polls, and they will keep paying for decades as their crap deform bill craps out.
And all this will come to pass thanks to Obama, Pelosi, and their lemmings.
Thank you, Pelosi. Thank you, Obama.
Posted by: Vote Em Out | March 19, 2010, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
“hey should be physically dragged from office and jailed for willfully violating the Constitution. I call on the U.S. Military to stage a good old-fashioned coup.”
Right wingers apparently hate democracy and prefer the iron hand of military dictatorship.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 19, 2010, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
The “talking point” is the head hunting firm positing that future bad conditions mean you will need their services.
Posted by: Ryan C |
Wow. That’s lame. You probably should have cut and pasted.
Can’t you even make a token effort at disputing the survey results showing that many doctors don’t like this bill?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | March 19, 2010, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
“Can’t you even make a token effort at disputing the survey results showing that many doctors don’t like this bill?”
Yeah its a head hunting firm looking to drum up business, kind of like “the gasoline shortage is coming” investment schemes with a completely unscientific study that for all we know they made up out of whole cloth.
I’ll take the AMA’s endorsement over some made up survey that right wingers intentionally misrepresented as being from the NEMJ.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 19, 2010, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
“And Wicked Witch of the House Pelosi”
Gee where are all those right wingers come feminists that were upset at the misogyny directed at Sarah Palin or Hillary Clinton?
Guess that was just another right wing lie of convenience.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 19, 2010, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Yeah its a head hunting firm looking to drum up business, kind of like “the gasoline shortage is coming” investment schemes with a completely unscientific study that for all we know they made up out of whole cloth.
Posted by: Ryan C |
If the survey is fake/rigged/whatever then it should be child’s play to dispute the actual results instead of doing your best impression of a left-wing Beck. But you got a big bag of nothing on this one don’t you?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | March 19, 2010, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
you got a big bag of nothing on this one don’t you?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | Mar 19, 2010 5:23:03 PM
See “Do doctors support health care reform” and “Do doctors support health care reform? IBD says no, NEJM says yes” and note that the Medicus Firm’s survey was not conducted using credible polling methodology, but rather it was done very unscientifically using email from a marketing database.
Besides NEJM distancing itself from the Medicus “survey”, Medicus itself posts this disclaimer: “Medicus notes:
“It’s probably not likely that nearly half of the nation’s physicians will suddenly quit practicing at once… Skeptics may suspect that physicians exaggerate their intent to leave medicine due to health reform. Some experts point to the malpractice crisis of years ago, when many doctors also expressed a desire to leave medicine. Some did quit; many did not.
… Do physicians feel that health reform is necessary? The survey indicates that doctors do want change. Only a very small portion of respondents – about four percent – feel that no reform is needed.”
Posted by: progressive mama | March 19, 2010, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Medicus has added the questions asked and their methodlogy in response to media questions
“Our survey was emailed to a random sample of 2,250 physicians from our physician database.
Of the 2,250 emailed, 1,195 responded.
Of the 1,195 responses, 36.4% were primary care physicians (family practice, internal medicine, or pediatrics), and 63.6% were specialists.
This survey was done using a “simple random sampling”. The survey was not a targeted survey based on any demographic category or geographic region.
The survey was conducted in-house, via a professional web-based surveying application. Below is the set of questions sent to physicians”
Posted by: Ryan C | March 19, 2010, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Also check out the polls that NEJM actually did conduct using rigorous and accepted polling methods: “Physicians’ Views of the Massachusetts Health Care Reform Law — A Poll” and “Doctors on Coverage — Physicians’ Views on a New Public Insurance Option and Medicare Expansion”
Posted by: progressive mama | March 19, 2010, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
“If the survey is fake/rigged/whatever then it should be child’s play to dispute the actual results instead of doing your best impression of a left-wing Beck”
ROFLMAO!
Foggy posts a bogus survey than gets angry when called out on it.
Let’s see bogus survey with a misrepresented source combined with a fake Democratic memo circulated the GOP that has since been retracted.
Its almost as if the right wing is trying to blatantly lie to us because they fear health care’s passing.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 19, 2010, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
“Also check out the polls that NEJM actually did conduct using rigorous and accepted polling methods: “Physicians’ Views of the Massachusetts Health Care Reform Law — A Poll” and “Doctors on Coverage — Physicians’ Views on a New Public Insurance Option and Medicare Expansion”"
Unless it fits their talking points, the right wing is not inerested.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 19, 2010, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Unless it fits their talking points, the right wing is not inerested.
Posted by: Ryan C | Mar 19, 2010 7:28:41 PM
Oh I know. I’m fully expecting a weird little snip from something I posted and a tangential gotcha-type question designed to put me on the defensive. Followed by some odd claim to be an independent or libertarian or something like that, and a hypocritical guilt trip about calling them out and not being civil. LOL.
they’re desperate. And yet, I’m feeling little empathy.
Posted by: progressive mama | March 19, 2010, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Foggy posts a bogus survey than gets angry when called out on it.
Posted by: Ryan C |
Actually, NEJM posted the survey and I am not angry but don’t let the facts get in your way.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | March 19, 2010, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Unless it fits their talking points, the right wing is not inerested.
Posted by: Ryan C |
Boy you guys are really worked up about this survey. Why don’t you just demonize the doctors? POTUS would.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | March 19, 2010, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | Mar 19, 2010 7:56:19 PM
When you find a copy of the journal with the survey in it, please send me a copy. LOL. For now, it is true that NEJM has distanced itself from the survey and its findings, and Medicus itself has a doozy of a disclaimer. LOL.
Meanwhile, feel free to read the surveys that NEJM actually did conduct as they debunk Medicus’s findings– and they were conducted using rigorous polling methods.
Posted by: progressive mama | March 19, 2010, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
When you find a copy of the journal with the survey in it, please send me a copy. LOL. For now, it is true that NEJM has distanced itself from the survey and its findings, and Medicus itself has a doozy of a disclaimer. LOL.
Meanwhile, feel free to read the surveys that NEJM actually did conduct as they debunk Medicus’s findings– and they were conducted using rigorous polling methods.
Posted by: progressive mama |
Posted. Not published.
As soon as NEJM polls doctors on the current bills I’ll be happy to read it.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | March 19, 2010, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Posted. Not published.
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Who posted it and on what page? There’s no link from the regular home page, of course. There’s no article, of course. If you just go to NEJM, you can’t find it.
LOL.
Posted by: progressive mama | March 19, 2010, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
As soon as NEJM polls doctors on the current bills I’ll be happy to read it.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | Mar 19, 2010 8:18:31 PM
Ha! Did Medicus poll on the current bill?
No?
LOL.
Posted by: progressive mama | March 19, 2010, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
Ryan C wrote: “I’ll take the AMA’s endorsement over some made up survey that right wingers intentionally misrepresented as being from the NEMJ.”
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Check the AMA web site. See how many doctors from your particular city belong to the AMA. Not many… in fact a very small majority. So you instead make it out like the AMA speaks for all doctors when in fact they DON’T. So you are using the name of an organization as though they speak for all doctors. Quite a big LIE you’ve got going there.
Posted by: gk | March 19, 2010, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
progressive mama wrote: “The survey indicates that doctors do want change”
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I want change too… but that doesn’t mean I want a full-blown radical COMMUNIST takeover of private health care by the government. That is the DOG-FOOD that oBama and Pelosi are trying to sell right now.
Posted by: gk | March 19, 2010, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
If you just go to NEJM, you can’t find it.
LOL.
Posted by: progressive mama |
If YOU just go to NEJM, you can’t find it. I can.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | March 19, 2010, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
Ha! Did Medicus poll on the current bill?
No?
LOL.
Posted by: progressive mama |
Do you know anything about this survey that you have been dismissing for two days now? Other than you don’t like the answers?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | March 19, 2010, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
in fact a very small majority.
Posted by: gk
amazing that it only takes 1 election for republicans to believe that ‘majority’ doesn’t mean majority….
Posted by: PO'd | March 20, 2010, 12:51 am 12:51 am
that doesn’t mean I want a full-blown radical COMMUNIST takeover of private health care by the government.
Posted by: gk
where does it say ‘takeover of private health care’?
Posted by: PO'd | March 20, 2010, 12:52 am 12:52 am
“Actually, NEJM posted the survey and I am not angry but don’t let the facts get in your way”
ROFLMAO!
It was in the pres release section of the NEMJ. It was posted by Medicus.
You wouldn’t know a fact it if it hit you in the nose.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 20, 2010, 2:43 am 2:43 am
“Check the AMA web site. See how many doctors from your particular city belong to the AMA”
So the AMA which represents hundreds of thousands of doctors should be ignored but a bogus survey from a head hunting firm should be paid attention to.
The right wing…stuck on stupid.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 20, 2010, 2:45 am 2:45 am
Ryan C wrote: “So the AMA which represents hundreds of thousands of doctors should be ignored but a bogus survey from a head hunting firm should be paid attention to.”
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It was a very simple exercise for you to see for yourself exactly how few doctors actually belong to the AMA and yet how it claims to speak for all doctors. But, knowing that it does not fit your narrative, it must be too complex to consider.
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“The right wing…stuck on stupid. ”
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Better than being willfully ignorant.
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Posted by: gk | March 20, 2010, 9:34 am 9:34 am
Do you know anything about this survey that you have been dismissing for two days now?
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the real question is, do you? LOL. See my post at Mar 19, 2010 6:54:57 PM
Clearly, I know it was conducted using a marketing database, not using accepted polling or surveying methods, that NEJM had nothing to do with it and has distanced itself from it, that Medicus includes a doozy of disclaimer, that NEJM was cited by conservative bloggers and Fox News to lend it some credence and that was pretty shady. And that you touted it– and keep defending it. I’d also guess that you’re projecting onto me the thing about not liking the answers because you like them, and hence, keep defending the unscientific and disclaimed “survey”.
I also know NEJM has conducted surveys scientifically with accepted polling methods and the results of those surveys are quite different from what Medicus found (and p.s. the survey wasn’t about the legislaton that will pass specifically… lol)
Posted by: progressive mama | March 20, 2010, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Wow, so many lies from Obama in such a small article! Civil Rights has always been an issue which the Republicans have supported. The Democrats finally decided to join up in the 1960s after decades of blocking progress. Similarly Republicans have been trying to reform health care ever since Democrats forced wage and price controls past the end of WWII and people looking to hire had to start offering greater fringe benefits like free health care insurance. The government soon messed that up by forcing insurers to operate separate entities for each state. So too with the Ponzsi scheme of Social Security, which has not “lifted people out of poverty” because it’s not an anti-poverty program. It is a program to *supplement* your own retirement savings as a hedge against inflation. And it does that job very badly.
Obama can take his lies and put them where the sun doesn’t shine. Say no to socialism, no to fascism and no to Obama.
Posted by: Reality Hammer | March 20, 2010, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Civil Rights has always been an issue which the Republicans have supported.
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Once upon a time? Yes. Nowadays? Not so much.
According to TPM, on the floor of the House, Rep. Tim Ryan (D-OH)denounced racist and homophobic slurs by Tea Party protestors on Capitol Hill today.
Republicans? Crickets. (They tend to egg on the hate and willful ignorance, in fact.)
Posted by: progressive mama | March 21, 2010, 12:29 am 12:29 am
Once upon a time? Yes. Nowadays? Not so much.
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Give us a break! Slurs aren’t exclusive to any one group of people. Nor is any one group of people guilt-free. Especially just because of their politics. What a load of crap.
Posted by: smartlillena | March 21, 2010, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
When the President, by executive order, of course, instructs Arne…our Education Secretary…who has never taught in a public school, let alone serve in an administrative position on a public board of education, or as a superintendent, or a principal….to have history books re-written so that his (Obama’s) legacy comes out looking like the delivery of the 10 commandments or some similar event, then we will all really understand what out Presidente wants out of life.
Posted by: justj joey | March 21, 2010, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
oops, sorry….Arne did serve in the Chicago School system……not much happened during his tenture.
Posted by: justj joey | March 21, 2010, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Give us a break!
Posted by: smartlillena | Mar 21, 2010 12:29:53 PM
Do you denounce racial slurs, smears, bigoted chants, spitting on the heads of African American congressman, threats of violence — or are you apologizing for, condoning and/or egging them on?
I denounce them.
To condone it, accept it, mainstream it, cheer it on, be an apologist, is to be part of the problem.
So, no — I won’t give you a break. Some of you have been given way too many free passes in your lifetimes.
Racism and bigotry is NOT A-ok.
Posted by: progressive mama | March 21, 2010, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
I’m not apologizing for it or condoning it. Believing it is exclusive to, or pervasive among, one group of people is ignorance. Probably closer to willful ignorance.
Posted by: smartlillena | March 21, 2010, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Posted by: smartlillena | Mar 21, 2010 6:19:41 PM
And you’re not condemning it either.
Sounds like you’re still making excuses and trying to say others do it too so … I guess you think that’s okay.
I condemn it. And I’m unsurprised its coming from the party that completely turned me off during the first election I was eligible to vote in — 1988– with its racist and extremist ads.
Plum Line:
“Rep Ciro Rodriguez of Texas has confided to colleages that he was hammered by ethnic slurs by people opposed to reform passing, one of those colleagues tells me.
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Separately, Kaptur said that Rep Phil Hare of Illinois had told her that someone had grabbed his jacket today, which suggests a threat of violence.
…Emanuel Cleaver was even spat at. Now add Rodriguez to the list.
Now look, admittedly, politics is a rough business. It’s not for the squeamish. But this stuff is way beyond the pale, and deserves serious condemnation from senior lawmakers in both parties.”
Posted by: progressive mama | March 21, 2010, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
“Give us a break! Slurs aren’t exclusive to any one group of people. Nor is any one group of people guilt-free. Especially just because of their politics”
Which is why when it happens its incumbent upon us to condemn it.
You apparently feel differently.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 21, 2010, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
Which is why when it happens its incumbent upon us to condemn it.
You apparently feel differently.
Posted by: Ryan C
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Like most people, I know it happens and I don’t get my shorts in a wad everytime I hear it. Sorry, that’s life, buddy. I’m certainly not stupid enough to think it’s exclusive to one political stripe or another.
Posted by: smartlillena | March 22, 2010, 7:04 am 7:04 am
I don’t get my shorts in a wad everytime I hear it.
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I certainly don’t make wild, baseless, accusations about it. That’s hateful.
Posted by: smartlillena | March 22, 2010, 7:06 am 7:06 am
I certainly don’t make wild, baseless, accusations about it. That’s hateful.
Posted by: smartlillena
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Making such accusations should be a crime, in itself.
Posted by: smartlillena | March 22, 2010, 7:33 am 7:33 am
Making such accusations should be a crime, in itself.
Posted by: smartlillena | Mar 22, 2010 7:33:51 AM
So you don’t get your underwear in knots over the spitting, threats of violence, rise of extremist groups, attacks against a civil rights hero, exploitation of fear, racist remarks– but you do get your underwear in knots over someone calling it out and condemning such behavior. You condemn the calling out. You’d rather it was brushed under the rug and accepted.
Says way more about you than anything else you’ve posted.
Posted by: progressive mama | March 22, 2010, 9:06 am 9:06 am
Where are the real Republicans in all of this nasty hateful Teabaggery behavior? We need an opposition party that isn’t filled with a bunch of Racist, drug addled idiots like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Former Gov. Palin the laughing stock of the U.S.
Posted by: WhereAreTheRepublicans? | March 23, 2010, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm