President Obama Tells Congressional Leaders of GOP Ideas He’s Willing to Add to Health Care Reform Legislation

What about the Union exemption?
If the President can see that the Florida and Nebraska deals aren’t fair then surely he knows the Labor deal isn’t fair either.
Do what’s right not what’s expedient, dump the Labor deal too.

no money. we got no money.i already pay 15k plus a year for my health care and never use it. under the obama plan now im gonna pay more and be taxed on it and aint gonna use it. why is this so? somethin is very wrong here.how can you be stupid enough to buy this bag of bull. give people a check so they can buy whats out out their and call it welfare cause thats what it is.

I like all of these ideas. The last paragraph please me the most. We should not do incremental health care reform, we are already decades late for many Americans. With 45,000 Americans dying every year because they don’t have health care insurance, time is of the essence. Affordable health insurance will enable people with the funds to retire earlier, thus freeing up jobs. Bankruptcies due to medical bills should be lowered dramatically. Small businesses will be able to hold on to their workers, as many now leave to find jobs that can offer health insurance. Many jobs in the medical field will open as all Americans get the preventative and necessary health care they need.
Health care reform is an idea long overdue and will bring our country up to par with other advanced nations in health care.

Obama’s agenda has been totally wrong for this country. he has come out with sorry excuses for following in the footsteps of FDR, with his programs, almost none of which have worked, because he really doesn’t understand the difference in circumstances, between the Great Depression, and this depression.
At the same time, he is trying to grow entitlement programs, at a time, when there is no way to fund them. (How stupid is THAT?)
He continues to press on an issue that is NOT a major issue, in this economy, and ignores the issue of jobs, which in fact, is the primary problem the country faces at present, BECAUSE, Washington allowed all US Corporations, to send all their manufacturing offshore……basically bankrupting the job base in the country.
Obama had demonstrated a real lack of understanding of economics.

Obama had demonstrated a real lack of understanding of economics.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | Mar 2, 2010 1:52:49 PM
From my perspective, anyone who thinks health care has nothing to do with either the economy or the budget– or the middle class and small business– hasn’t demonstrated an understanding of economics or the reality of health care costs.

Since we’re just throwing in stuff and declaring the recipe delicious, how about:
- A modified tort reform that limits lawyer fees (limit lawyer fees / rewards), not patient rewards
- Prescription drug pricing reform that assures Americans get best price in the world instead of worst.
- Fraud prevention that imposes severe penalties for Hospital overcharges ($1000 toothbrush or $140 Tylenol pill, for example).

Theloyalopposition…..you summed it up nicely.

Good for Obama! Incorporate the best of the GOP ideas into the bill. Of course, still not a single Republican will vote for it. But hey that’s their problem.
The American people know what the Republicans are up to and will remember in November.

How about forcing everyone in the medical industry (doctors, nurses, pharmacists, medical researchers, lawyers, etc) to work for minimum wage. That will reduce costs. :D

I’m a 2010 census worker. We need this bill soon or me and about 600,000 other census workers will be back on unemployment in 10 months.

We may be #37 according to your liberal sources, but Canada’s ruling elite don’t like their own dog food and sneak into America to get heart surgery.

We may be #37 according to your liberal sources, but Canada’s ruling elite don’t like their own dog food and sneak into America to get heart surgery.
Posted by: Paul | Mar 2, 2010 2:20:32 PM
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Foolish to close your eyes and pretend everything is alright – when it clearly isn’t. Republicans are opposing everything this administration does for one reason – their first priority is to get re-elected. Party First. Country Second.

Finally Obama is listening to most of the country. I know his moonbat legion don’t want him to. They want the democrats to be the party that doesn’t listen to the American people.
So whine away

***How about forcing everyone in the medical industry (doctors, nurses, pharmacists, medical researchers, lawyers, etc) to work for minimum wage. That will reduce costs. :D
Posted by: Tom | Mar 2, 2010 2:10:25 PM***
Actually that would just reduce the number of health care workers, unless we found a way to reduce the cost of training the health care workers themselves.
I believe it came up early last year in a forum that the President held where a graduating doctor said her entire tuition cost for becoming a physician was around 320k(it was either the entire cost or it was how much in student loans she had to take out).
What we would see after such a change is a turn back to the era of personal physcians for the upper class and, charitible institutions for lower classes, with some municpalities paying for the training of doctors that agree to work in the town for a time.

Obama is trying to take a pig and make it look good by adding some lipstick and makeup. Its still a pig.

Go, why is the 46,000 American deaths figure so unbelievable to you or anyone else. With 46 million Americans now without insurance, why is the idea that a tenth of one percent will die because of it not in the realm of possibility?
It isn’t much of an argument to say you don’t personally believe it.
Joe Smith, I love all your ideas. Hospitals will say they overcharge to make up for their losses to the uninsured. When this bill passes, they will have lost that excuse. So away with those $140 Tylenols!

Why not start over? If this bill is a piece of dung, putting a couple of Republican chocalate chips on top doesn’t make it any more appetizing.
The Democrat bills contain a lot of ideas. The Republicans have some good ideas too. So, we have the ground-work for putting together something much better.
Start over using the best of these ideas as the ingredients. Don’t be cynical … we all know the current system is unsustainable. We need to know the best way forward. A hard-earned consensus is something worth achieving, and will result in a much better bill for all. A one-party bill will simply get underfunded and handcuffed in the future when the other party takes control.

Let’s just take the Bible and call it the healthcare bill. At least it will be 1200 pages shorter, at least a few people have read it, and it will probably be a lot more help to folks too.

Tierra and Rick—-To say the GOP doesn’t care about the people while we the people 2 to 1 reject this insurance bill passes no common sense test. But, if you’re into party bashing, I am sure it makes you feel good to do it.

For this bill to have any real meaning or sincerity, it MUST have the provision removed, that blocks or disallows, any future way to change the law once it’s passed.
Posted by: DHK | Mar 2, 2010 2:41:44 PM
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Good point DHK … but I don’t think other Congresses are going to be held hostage to it. When Republicans take control, they will simply get another law passed that overrides this one. Any high-ground the Democrats might claim will be countered with “it was a Democrat law, not an American law”.

“”"”"The Fact is The US rates as # 37 in the world for Quality of care That sounds like republicanism to me— Spin Spin Spin –”"”"
Posted by Brian
Talk about spin? Here’s the truth Brian and it has nothing to do with our quality health care. It is only ranking system and efficiency. This is a direct quote from a moderate Democrat. “”"”US ranks 37th in comparison to other countries in terms of healthcare systems and their efficiency “”"”"

Ifrichar, the current public opinion is the result of a smear campaign which was intentionally misleading. The US has the most rationed healthcare system in the developed world yet we pay much more for it than our counterparts. The argument is about elections and power, not about people.

Brian: “”"”"WHO’s health care rankings are constructed from five factors each weighted according to a formula derived by WHO. These are:
1. Health Level: 25 percent
2. Health Distribution: 25 percent
3. Responsiveness: 12.5 percent
4. Responsiveness Distribution: 12.5 percent
5. Financial Fairness: 25 percent

Lydia—- So can you tell me what will happen when the health care costs continue to rise? Where are the cost controls for health care costs in this bill? It does not address actual health care costs or controls.

Rick, I agree with your idea of non-profit insurance companies running the show as a good thing. One has to be careful about regulating them, as many non-profits in this country are efficient only at giving huge salaries to their execs. A cap on salaries, bonuses and perks might work. The health of our citizens should not be put at risk by some exec with a big bonus in his mind’s eye, denying treatment for the ill.

“”"”"”The US has the most rationed healthcare system in the developed world yet we pay much more for it than our counterparts. “”"”"
Posted by: Rick
A very good reason to control health care costs not just insurance premiums don’t you think? This bill, in any form, will not derail the rising costs of health care.

Rick and Lydia_____ Non profit health care? Your idea is to revamp our insurance system to a non profit system? OK, as health care costs rise, those non profit organizations will have to raise rates due to rising costs, so how do you stop the rising costs? Health care costs drive insurance premiums, not the other way around.

The bill will not lower health care costs. It will force you to buy what the Government says you need,go to the doctor the government tells you to see,and gives you a free blood pressure test,than sends you back to the bridge you live under. Till you can get a job of sorts.

ifrichar, there is a ton of cost-savings measures, as well as improvements in the quality of care given.
One idea is bringing technology into play with computerized records. This alone will save us big in duplicate procedures.
Preventative care included in everyone’s insurance will definitely keep costs down. ‘A stitch in time saves nine’ sentiment.
The other big idea I like is medical people actually researching which treatments work best. Right now, for many injuries and illnesses doctors tend to do what the others in their geographical areas do, whether that is the best solution or not. Yes, copycatting is alive and well everywhere. So an injured back in the South will get a completely different treatment plan than someone in the West or Northeast, rather than the best idea tried first, all because no one knows what is best! This research will save so much money, as well as get patients better faster.
Wish I had more room and time to talk.

-A cap on salaries, bonuses and perks might work. -
Maybe Barry could start with Fannie, Freddie and GM…

stormerf, the government isn’t telling you what insurance to buy, it is just setting minimums for what can be sold. Too many insurance companies sell premiums that do not adequately protect patients, thus 60% of our bankruptcies are due to medical bills, even though most of these people had medical insurance.

Lydia —- When we speak of “preventative care”, the doctor’s will still be paid. Now, I like computerized records, but that is not going to have any effect on health care costs. This bill has been called insurance reform by Obama himself and Rangel called it “National Insurance”, and I will site the health care bipartisan debate, as well as, Obama’s own web site. If we solely focus on insurance, we are not addressing the simple fact we pay double for our health care costs over any other country. As those costs rise, insurance premiums either rise or they go out of business. This will lead to massive unemployment throughout our insurance system and a burden for the government subsidized insurance which will drive us way beyond the $1 trillion estimate.

One idea is bringing technology into play with computerized records. This alone will save us big in duplicate procedures.
Preventative care included in everyone’s insurance will definitely keep costs down. ‘A stitch in time saves nine’ sentiment.
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Yes, Lydia’s right. There’s also preventative medicine and Medical IT, which got a boost via the stimulus as well.
Ezra Klein on cost controls:
“The first comes from the excise tax on high-cost health insurance plans. The idea here is simple enough: you’re taxing any growth in health-care premiums that’s faster than the rate of growth in GDP plus one percentage point, which is going to make people a lot less accepting of premium increases and unchecked growth. This is, in the simplest sense of the term, a cost control. In theory, it controls costs by taxing one of the drivers of cost growth into submission. It is, by far, the policy economists are most united on, and the one that works in the most straightforward and blunt way.
The second comes from the newly formed Medicare Commission, which is a lot stronger than people realize. The idea isn’t simply that a panel of experts gets to dream up interesting reforms to try out in Medicare. It’s that they are charged with making sure that Medicare hits certain growth targets, and their package of reforms has to achieve that goal. Those reforms are then sent to Congress, where Senate debate is limited to 30 hours, and amendments must be both budget neutral and “germane.” This report, in other words, is exempt from the filibuster. So far as anything is ever easy to pass, this is easy to pass. If Congress cannot manage action even within this streamlined process, then it simply cannot cut health-care costs at all, and our federal government will go bankrupt.
The third is the delivery-system reforms. The House bill has these too, though they’re a bit weaker. They key alchemy, however, is the interplay of the delivery-system reforms and the MedPAC commission. The Senate builds in a lot of pathways by which an idea that starts in Medicare through the commission and proves successful can be brought to pilot and then brought to scale across the health-care system. Medicare serves as the laboratory, but other institutions created in the bill serve as the factory.
All three of those stories make sense, and any of them, on their own, would represent the most significant effort at cost control in a generation, if not ever. ” (WaPo)

tierra — I have read over 2000 pages of the bills and some of the changes. Please show me anywhere in this bill that has any cost control or cost cutting measures tied directly to health care costs, not insurance (they are completely different)and I will gladly retract my statement.
Posted by: lfrichar | Mar 2, 2010 3:29:23 PM
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I think Lydia already pointed out some measures you missed.
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Excellent observation on costs and the short answer- it doesn’t even come close to addressing costs. It rips off medicare, raises taxes and has no cost controls other than price fixing which really isn’t a cost control but a quality of care nightmare (references see Medicaid and Medicare). That’s why it won’t help the uninsured and injures the economy and most people are against it. It’s actually structured in a way to go well beyond it’s projected budget and put the US taxpayer on the hook for even more unchecked spending while continuing to increase other government programs as well.

GO — Thanks for the back up but many seem to be mixing insurance premiums with actual health care costs. Why is an MRI $2,000? Why is Tylenol $20 in a hospital? If we limit profit margins in the entire industry, this will lower costs, but our politicians know it’s political suicide. While Obama says he has tough/unpopular decisions to make, he will not make them.

Surely, no one can seriously doubt this president’s sincerity about wanting to have a cooperative effort on health care reform and his resolve to get something worthwhile done. Shame on Republicans for their willingness to extend the status quo of suffering and waste for political advantage.

ifrichar, your logic is confusing. How can paying a doctor for preventative care not be a cost saving measure? Just keeping up on immunizations saves so many illnesses and hospitalizations. Finding out your anemic, for example, and treating that, can save you from serious illness.
And why wouldn’t computerized records save money? No more duplicate tests alone with the high costs of tests today would save a lot. Not to mention avoiding allergy interactions and other adverse side effects, which may require e.r. visits and hospitalizations, not to mention death.
As for insurance companies raising their premiums to reflect their rising costs, that is a fallacy proven by the recent news of premiums rising 15 to 30% by the same companies with record profits. It’s the same malarkey excuse the oil companies used to fleece us with high gas prices two years ago.
Your negativity, not based on facts, seems to be the attitude someone would take who has something to lose personally, (insurance stock gains?) when this bill passes. In which case you should respectfully take yourself out of the discussion, as a biased rather than unbiased citizen.
We, as a nations cannot continue our present course of health insurance/no insurance. It puts our businesses at a disadvantage nationally and internationally, it puts our small businesses in jeopardy of closing, it bankrupts too many of our citizens and outright kills almost 46,000 of them a year. This shouldn’t be about those profiting today but about the health and well-being of all our citizens and our economy.

Those are premium cost controls not health care cost controlas.
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First, not fully– are you familiar with the pilot programs (around p. 621 of the senate bill) or the meaning of “health delivery system reforms”. As for the others, yes, but….
Insurance plans set up PPO’s, conduct medical necessity review, write the insurance contracts AND reimburse the plans. They have failed to innovate in those regards. Capping premiums would force them to innovate or die.
A Medicare commission that looks at reforms and innovation also has real possibilities. Its funny that people trot out the usual suspects when it comes to goverment but fail to mention that much innovation comes from federally funded research (see Pharma, NIH)or the military.
In regard to the potential of the pilot programs, Atul Gawande draws a thought-provoking analogy to agriculture 100 years ago, and how government interventions which seemed like a hodgepodge converged into a whole, transforming productivity and cost.
He also points that almost half the bill– all those many pages– is devoted to finding and testing ways to decrease cost and improve quality.
The problem with Americans nowadays is that we panic at inconvenience, dislocations and sweeping change– and for this issue, there isn’t a simple way to find the best route or best solution. Hence,it makes sense to test and experiment– and to get the private industry involved via premium controls, forcing their hand a bit.

ifrichar —- right on the money —– If the healthcare reform doesn’t have COST control provisions, we might as well fast-forward to “single-payer”, because that is what it will evolve into!!! —– Hey, gosh, you don’t suppose the Dems know this and…….

I also think if there is someone extending the “status quo” please point them out because so far I’ve just seen competing ideas on reform.
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Slowing down and inplementing miniscule interventions that don’t address the uninsured issue or the affordability issue or cost sounds like extending the status quo to me. Under the Republican House plan, those who really need reform get fewer benefits for more money, while those who don’t need reform get more benefits for less money. That sounds vaguely like the rich get richer and the poor and middle class get poorer– which has been the status quo for the past decade.

“”"”"Your negativity, not based on facts, seems to be the attitude someone would take who has something to lose personally, “”"”"
Posted by Lydia
Hmm, negativity? So you wouldn’t suggest health care industry cost controls? This bill will run the insurance industry down. Furthermore, please show me in any of my posts where I didn’t have facts and I will give you my site.

Lydia — Maybe you haven’t noticed small businesses are not hiring because of the threat of this bill and cap and trade?? You have given into the same tactic Bush used, fear, but the boogieman here is we will go bankrupt. Computerized medical records are a good idea as I said. I carry my records if needed to avoid duplicate tests (maybe a little responsible huh?). Anyway, this bill does not directly address health care industry costs and without that, you have insurance reform only.

“”"”Capping premiums would force them to innovate or die.”"”"”
Posted by Progressive Mama
This is true and exactly my point. With health care costs rising and our limiting the insurance companies, they will soon lose all profit margins and perish, adding millions of people to a government subsidized insurance program. Probably the 1st step to single payer. This bill talks on insurance reform cost controls not health care industry cost controls. We need cheaper med schools, incentives for more doctors, cheaper equipment, procedures, pharmaceuticals, tort reform, etc. Regulating insurance without regulating/containing health care costs is not reform, it’s death to the insurance industry and all who work for them. This will swell the government program and blow the estimate way out as it has with every government run program. Ask yourself this, “is it smart to take the very owner of a mismanged program and let them try to create a new program to fix it?”

I’m all for getting healthcare off the backs of businesses and back into the hands of individuals so you can separate your job from your healthcare package. Setting up a structure where individuals can more easily afford the healthcare they want to try and get (with no federal mandate to purchase a federally outlined package) is actually something Pres Obama campaigned on in 2008 and but hasn’t even come close to trying to fight for in office.
Definitely not for putting health insurance in the hands of the federal gov’t on so many levels. Universal coverage on paper sounds good and says universal access but not when, how or what you have access to. It is truly a red herring. Long term it really affects the quality of care, lacks sustainable funding and for that you merely need to investigate everywhere it’s been applied from states to countries. After nearly 80 years of full commitment to this type of care in the USSR the prevailing medical advice was if sick head to Finland even for a splinter and that was from nationals. It may be great for a hangnail or the common colds but certainly nothing serious.
It’s truly commendable and important to help people in US get health insurance. I personally think we can certainly do it and in a much better way than this bill.

“GO — People don’t die from lack of insurance unless they just don’t go to a hospital, they can’t be turned down. ”
This is a very serious misunderstanding, but I have heard it before, so I will enlighten you.
You can indeed by turned away from a hospital, and people are every day. Hospitals are under no obligation to treat indigent patients unless their condition is deemed an emergency.

With health care costs rising and our limiting the insurance companies, they will soon lose all profit margins and perish, adding millions of people to a government subsidized insurance program.
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OR… it could break up the stranglehold large companies have on the market, force them to lower overhead and suspend their insane lobbying expenditures, give innovative entrepreneurs in the field an opportunity to focus on patient care and come up with something that changes the direction.
Never underestimate our entrepreneurial ingenuity once the corrupt market giants lose their favored class and special treatment.
Another possible direction, is a vibrant supplemental market with a strong basic plan administered via single payer, but I like the idea of true innovation better.

Just outlaw insurance. Watch the medical costs plummet.

The idea to put caps on medical malpractice awards is a terrble idea. It has done nothing to lower the costs for health care in states that have the caps. It is against our system of trial by jury to those who have been harmed by bad doctors, bad hospitals and bad medical practices. Once again, it makes it easy for the big corporate hospitals, insurers, etc. to have it their way and does not allow the little guy or gal their day in court.
In addition, it is foolish for the president to consider any of the Republicans plans because they have no intention of going along with any kind of health care plan proposed by this president. Also, the Tea Party folks won’t be happy with anything coming from the Democrats or Pres. Obama.
I wish the president would just get on with pushing this bill forward so this country could move on to doing something about all the other problems created by 12 years of the same gang of “do nothings” who can only whine and complain now!

Vote congress out one member per state at each election. Replace them with honest men and women who will taketheir Oath of Office seriously. Within 4 years this country would get back on track. Then just don’t forget and leave them in there too long again.
Sputnik

It’s amazing how much money Insurance companies donate to the Democrats.

Caps on medical malpractice would be
a farce and boondoggle to insurers. Would they give MDs lower rates? Does the sun ever disappear from view? But Pres. Obama is putting the nation first and also offering the GOP a demanded
program. He has blocked Ben Nelson’s gift to Nebraska. If necessary Joe
Lieberman’s protection of health insurers will not be guaranteed.
He can include a provision eliminating
aliens from coverage. Pres. Obama
is taking the lead. Will the GOP
continue to stall and block? Yes.
But let the public speak out no and
tell the GOP to not wait for Hell to
freeze over.

The politicians all agree that reform is needed. They should use diplomacy and decency to make it happen. So many smart people and we will never all agree on the approach, I only ask that they not walk away from the table just because or their party affiliation. Every month I see audits performed on employees, if they miss their hourly average of what qualifies them for company insurance, they loose the insurance and have to struggle with the stress of not having it now. If they loose a job due to layoffs they can continue with insurance, but have to pay $500 plus a month to keep it; you just lost your job, you will pay your bills before you pay a $500 dollar insurance bill that you may or may not use that month. Now they are forced to play Russian Roulet with their lives physically and financially. Grow up Democrats, Republicans, Tea Partiers, Conservatives. This is much bigger than us all! Now follow that domino effect how negatively it can effect us all whether directly or indirectly. Grow up America! Everyone is watching or go to your room until you can learn to play with others.

My origianl point is that more people “(2-3x) currently on a gov’t funded healthcare insurance plan die from preventable medical errors than from being uninsured and there is nowhere near the same outcry or legislative push to fix quality of care in a program the gov’t currently runs and now they want to enlarge that to “help” a much smaller number.”
That is true as far as it goes, except that you are just as likely to die from medical errors if you DO have private insurance. You are absolutely correct on this important point: medical errors are extremely costly, both in lives and money. And, they are not being adequately addressed in this legislation.
you are wrong, however, on there being no push to fix this in Medicare – first of all because you imply that there is a push to fix this in private insurance, which there isn’t. Secondly, there are Medicare reforms in the bill that do address the issue, though in my opinion, inadequately.
Another thing to think about: 87% of doctors who have lost five or more malpractice claims against them have received no professional sanction.

Compromise this. How are you going pay for all this, Bamy? The middle class will pay for any and all increases in Health Care and/or Insurance with higher costs on each and everything you’re going to change. Is that not right, Mr. President? We’ll have larger government, higher costs in medical care, higher costs in script meds, higher costs in Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid. Is this not so, Mr. President? How is the middle class supposed to do all this with higher taxes, hyper-inflation “and” the influx of all the illegal aliens that you’ve still failed to address, Mr. President? Mr. President? Are you paying attention? I thought not. Somebody get us a leader for a President and get this Kenyan, South Chicago Lawyer Community Organizer out of our White House, Please? We need a leader Not a thief that thinks we’re so stupid to not see what he’s doing and/or has already done.

GO — People don’t die from lack of insurance unless they just don’t go to a hospital, they can’t be turned down. ”
This is a very serious misunderstanding, but I have heard it before, so I will enlighten you.
You can indeed by turned away from a hospital, and people are every day. Hospitals are under no obligation to treat indigent patients unless their condition is deemed an emergency.
Posted by: Flash Override | Mar 2, 2010 5:06:21 PM ***************************** You can peach all you want but you’ll not change their minds. It’s hopeless to try and change the mind of a dreamer. They think we’re part of the dream. Pity!

Mr. O still does not get it. The only way Republicans are going to get involved with this legislation is if the 2700 page bill is scraped. I do not see any real reason this is not possible. What is the big deal? The Democrats worked a full year and still do not have anything. That tells me they are on the wrong track and there is something wrong with the bill. So scrap the bill and start fresh with the Republican help and I am sure that it would be done within months or less.

GOD HELP US…a little advice from someone who understands “politics” and who doesn’t “constrict his thinking”. As long as the conservatives and Republicans can create “fear and hysteria” among your “ranks”, you will always “vote against your own best interests” and your socio-econmic status will continue to deteriorate. Why do you think that under conservtive/Republican rule the middle class has lost so much ground?

Bill Ayers? Oh he’s just a guy from my neighborhood…..LIE…..Obama is a liar, once a liar to the American people and not held accountable by the media, he wil lie and lie again.. Obama is a disaster for the Unted States.

So now I can buy a car from Obaba, healthcare from Obaba and get my student loan only from Obama. When will Obama give me food, too?

I often go to Church and never listen to what my Pastor preaches about.

If you like our postal service you are going to love our national health care!

Cndfox, I couldn’t agree with you more. As the far right tries to scare folks with exaggerations and outright lies, they get their agenda through.
Folks, this is all about the insurance companies wanting to continue their 15 to 30% overhead, including big pay and bonuses for their ceos. They aren’t spending millions advertising and employing lobbying firms for the consumer’s good, but to keep things just the way they are.
Hey,46 million out of 300 million have no insurance. 45,000 of those uninsured will die this year because they lack insurance. More will be added to the rolls of the uninsured this year and every year if we don’t change the rules they follow. You’ve read the news about premiums rising 39% this year for some folks, how much longer will you be able to afford your insurance?
Don’t believe the insurance industry lackeys, think about it. Insurance rates doubling in the last 10 years, did your pay double? You can see where this is headed if we don’t control them.

lydia wrote: “Hey,46 million out of 300 million have no insurance. 45,000 of those uninsured will die this year because they lack insurance. ”
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So democrats are going to let 135,000 die while they twiddle their thumbs with their health care takeover? They have to collect taxes for 3 years before any changes take place (just a little Enron style accounting here to make the books balance).

Sorry, I was laughing so hard I had two typos on my last post; “church” and “words”.

ANOTHER UNECESSARY TAX
The SCHIP bill sounds great – State Children’s Health Insurance Program. This program expands public health coverage to many children who would otherwise have been enrolled in a private health insurance program.[1] This is another way the current administration is almost secretly getting what it wants/moving coverage from private insurers to public insurers. Of course judging by history, the government is always better at providing for the common person than the private industry – and you can count on the gov. to never charge too much for a service – they’ll just mandate everyone pay for the same, inefficient service, and tax us whatever they want – ins’t that fair – spread the wealth. The poor should be taken care of – some research shows that the poor ARE taken care of – it’s the person too busy WORKING, to get involved in politics, that’s not taken care of – much of the current stimulus went to HHS, and other health services to prepare for gov. takeover of healthcare not healthcare REFORM. And much of the stimulus went to friends in crime/ACORN. With ACORN, healthscare, SCHIP, and other programs, the corrupt in the current administration are hiding behind a pleasant facade – masquerading something evil, as something good. Evidently a 61 cent increase in cigarette tax went to the SCHIP program.[2] Taxes are being forced on the less poor/poor to help the less poor/poor, and the gov. gets what they want – POWER AND CONTROL by forcing taxes on people to cover their pet projects/programs. Our founding fathers were very smart – their system of gov. has worked so good that many citizens don’t have to get involved – as a result socialists have been able to force their agenda on the Republic. People need to ask who the Progressives are, because they have caused much of the problems we’re now forced to deal with.[3] Please know who your reps. are, and what they are doing to help the Republic.[4]
1. -heritage-org january 26, 2009 the new SCHIP Bill: The Senate Must Protect Private Coverage
2. -ryorevolution-com SCHIP Expansion Bill Will Devastate Roll Your Own!; also history of SCHIP, etc.
-Feb 4, 2009 – Obama Signs SCHIP bill
3. -*.lewrockwell-com/The Progressives’ 100 Years War
-glennbeck-com April 16 2009 American Progressivism Who were the Progressives, and why are they important? R.J. Pestritto Shipley Professor of the American Constitution at Hillsdale College 
4. -*At Thomas.gov website click on House of Representatives/Congress to get e-mail, phone, address of reps for area code entered.
-*opencongress-org track bills, issues, and votes on your personal profiles; Use social networking to share the best infor. About your interests; Vote and comment on bills you support or oppose; contact your elected officials with your opinions; help build public knowledge about Congress!
-dotearth-blogs-nytimes.com March 2, 2010 Fuel Taxes Must Rise, Harvard Researchers Say ($7/gal)
-Worldnetdaily-com Weather Channel founder: Warming ‘greatest scam in history’ November 08, 2007
-Wnd.com Extremists gone wild on ‘green’ energy bill February 09, 2010
-apolloalliance-org Clean Energy Is Foundation of Proposed Stimulus January 15, 2009
-hotair-com/greenroom/archives/2009/08/25/who-really-wrote-obamas-stimulus-bill
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-* .healthtransformation.net Right to Know Petition
-HR3962 Sponsor: Rep Dingell, John D. [MI-15] (introduced 7/14/2009)
-chinapost-com. U.S. gov’t paid US$47 billion in questionable health claims
-wnd-com ELECTION 2008 Obama cited Ayers job as qualification to run
-wnd-com/ ELECTION 2008 Obama-backed ally forged pact with radical Muslims
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-Empowering Patients First Act – a 130 page plan – Tom Price GA
-Health Care Freedom Plan – 41 page proposal – Sen Jim DeMint S.C.
-Patients Choice Act of 2009 – 130 pages formed by bicameral coalition of Republicans in House and Senate Rep.Paul Ryan WI
-Healthy Americans Act S391
-HR2630 Protect Patients and Physician’s Privacy Act – The bill states that all individuals shall have the ability to opt out of any federally mandated, created, or funded electronic system for maintaining health care information. He also is offering HR 2629 the “Coercion is Not Health Care Act’” which forbids the Federal Government from forcing any American to purchase health insurance, and from conditioning participation in any federal program, or receipt of any federal benefit, on the purchase of health insurance.
-S.1324 : A bill to ensure that every American has a health insurance plan that they can afford, own, and keep.Sponsor: Sen DeMint, Jim [SC] (introduced 6/23/2009)      Cosponsors (2)
“…Lynn points out that, contrary to Democratic claims that the Republicans are simply the “Party of No,” the GOP has offered an alternative called the Empowering Patients First Act. This legislation, HR 3400, (Congressman Bob Lattta is a co-sponsor) would 1) make access to coverage affordable for all Americans; 2) make coverage truly owned and controlled by the patient; 3) improve the healthcare delivery structure; and 4) rein in out-of-control costs, including through robust liability reform.”
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-10 facts every american should know about speaker Pelosi’s 1,990-page gov’t takeover of health care John Boehner (R-OH)
*Campaignforliberty-com Stop Obamacare Now 7 23 09
-*lattahouse-gov congressman bob latta health care oped Washington Aug 9
We, the undersigned, join with Democratic Senators Bayh, Lincoln, Pryor, McCaskill, Landrieu, Nelson, Lieberman and Webb in urging Washington policy-makers to require that a complete copy of any bill or legislation, along with its CBO scoring, be posted online for citizen review at least 72 hours prior to any vote being taken
-*heritage-org Why government spending does not stimulate economic growth
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-*house.gov John Boehner Democrats’ Spending by the Numbers October 21st, 2009 –( $104,094: The share of the national debt owed by every household in the U.S.)