Sen. Graham Says President Obama’s Proclaimed ‘Unwavering’ Commitment to Immigration Reform ‘Doesn’t Pass the Smell Test’
EmailOn Thursday President Obama met with Sens. Chuck Schumer, D-NY, and Lindsey Graham, R-SC, who are working on a bipartisan immigration reform bill. Afterwards, the president said his commitment to resolving the issue is "unwavering."
On "This Week" Sunday, Graham took issue with that,
"The idea that the president hasbeen unwavering on immigration doesn't really pass the smell test," Graham said. "One line in the State of the Union that was unnoticeable is not 'unwavering.' A hastily called meeting Thursday because of a rally next weekend is not 'unwavering,' is CYA."
Graham said that "unwavering is sending two Cabinet members over to the House and the Senate two hours a day for two months with dozens of senators trying to write a bill. That's what President Bush did. President Obama has not been unwavering on immigration reform. He has pretty much ignored it because he has been consumed by health care."
Graham called Schumer a "great partner" and said the two would soon release a document "about our way forward on immigration."
"President Obama: lead," Graham said. "You write an…immigration reform bill. You do the heavy lifting. You put together a comprehensive immigration reform package. You bring it to the Senate and House and see how many Democrat and Republican supporters you can get. All you have done is talk about what we should do, now is the time to lead."
Graham recalled that during the previous effort in the Senate, then-Senator Obama "was part of the deal to create the bill. He was in the photo op. When it got to the floor, he introduced an amendment to sunset the temporary worker…program, which was part of an overall deal. And as you remember, my views of him were not very good at that time. He undercut the grand bargain."
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Obama’s unwavering commitment to immigration reform is similar to his fierce advocacy to the gay community.
Which means he will toss them a bone to keep their votes and donations.
Posted by: millie | March 15, 2010, 11:21 am 11:21 am
What Lindsey Grahamnesty means when he says CIR is AMNESTY! He needs to stop using the phrases “Comprehesive Immigration Reform” or “Immigration Reform” and state specifically what he is calling for (amnesty). That way people will know exactly what he is trying to shove down our throats. My version of CIR includes eliminating birthright citizenship, securing the border, eliminating chain migration and visa lotteries, stepped up interior enforcement, increased fines/penalties, mandatory e-verify, no welfare of any kind to illegal aliens, etc.
Posted by: Steven | March 15, 2010, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
We need immigrant reform like we need another hole in the head. Plain and simple, there are over 10 million illegal aliens in this country. These illegals are either 1) taking jobs from citizens and/or 2) milking the system for benefits that cost the same citizens tax money.
True reform begins by shipping the illegals back to their country of origin until such time as they can enter the country legally. No mercy, no deals, no amnesty for breaking the laws in this country.
Posted by: Jack | March 15, 2010, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
I’m with Jack. Send every one of them back to their country of origin, and that includes their anchor babies.
Posted by: Emma C | March 15, 2010, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Agreed! Immigration Reform is fixing the borders, removing the illegals, and stopping further access to my country, my social services, my educational system, and my land. The only rights for illegal aliens is deportation without further delay. We must remove the aliens and their prodgeny now, remove them completely, and restore this country to its rightful states.
Posted by: USADefender | March 15, 2010, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Would it be good,or bad to make mexico our fifty first state? We could then collect tax from all of mexico to pay for whatever problem they are causing. The richest man in the world lives in mexico. How about their natural resources. It could solve some of our problems. I don’t know what the disadvantage would be that are not already happening.
Posted by: Ike | March 15, 2010, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
I have the right to stay with my wife and 2 babies i came here on visitors visa my I-94 still valid during interview in uscis and i got denied for how many times my only hope is pass the immigration reform.my wife is a uscitizen and she have the right to with her family.
Posted by: regino | March 15, 2010, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
Obama should be legally procluded from any “immigration reform” debate due to his conflict of interest in granting amnesty to illegal aliens and foreign born residents without legal citizenship.
Ignoring the alledged questions in his own background even he admits he has an aunt, “Dear Auntie”, who bilked the Boston public housing department and flagrantly broke US law by being an illegal alien in the USA.
Is Obama simply looking after familial interest in this matter? He should not participate in this debate until the issue of his aunt, or other issues, are settled.
Posted by: Ed | March 15, 2010, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Ed..you don’t know wht you are talking aout. Obama has said if she broke the law she gets deported. He is totally staying out of this as he is not even close with this aunt. We all have realtives we would like to forget. If you want to criticize him…let’s make it truthful and worthwhile.
Posted by: talmag | March 15, 2010, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
I hope you will get Gibbs on the program soon . Unlike , Wallace ,you should not feel constrained from stealing Garret’s current shtick and ask him who offered Joe Sestak a job if he quit running for the Senate .
Posted by: nat turner | March 15, 2010, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Ask Lindsay Graham what has the republicans done about immigration? Nothing like everything else they have a lot of criticism to go around but forget that they had eight years to find a solution re immigration. Their solution was amnesty for all and it was put down. It is not an easy solution but let’s not criticize until we know what is actually being done here. Just like the banks…things had been going wrong since 2005 and I thought it was 2007. This is even more deplorable. They had more time to straighten out this mess so it would not become a recession and did nothing. Now they have all the answers. Just like health care. They want an entire new bill with only their ideas. No way guys! you had a chance now let’s get this thing done. Some of your ideas are fine but to say you want to rewrite an entire bill is ludicrice. Many people worked hard on this bill and although not perfect, it is a beginning. It will not break the country as you say but having no bill WILL.
Posted by: talmag | March 15, 2010, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
I just have one thing to say …LETS NOT FORGET THIS COUNTRY WAS MADE UP OF IMMIGRANTS! stop being ignorant… families should not be separated.. we need an immigration reform and we need it now!
Posted by: ingrid | March 15, 2010, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
people talk about deporting “These illegals” back to their countries. This country gives you freedom to speak your mind out. Then we should give this country back to the Indians that were here before “You Americans” came to this land. African Americans should leave this country since they were slaves. Give them true freedom and pay them for what you did. You talk about illegals taking jobs. Okay, fair. I did a report back in 1999 about sweat shops in this country. I didn’t see no African Americans, I didn’t see no Americans. You complain about not having a job. I see so many sweat shops with open machines for you to work there. Why don’t you go there. Break your back for 0.25 per garment. Yet you don’t care where your clothing comes from. How about Farms, i haven’t seen any African American or American working from sun up to sun down. i see job openings in that work all the time. why don’t you take does jobs? I have seen so many “Americans” wasting their life’s in drug use, doing crimes. Why don’t you look at Americans who break laws too. You are like same as Politicians, only if it affects you, you care. You use illegals as scapegoats for your own means. What about those that work hard and do pay taxes and do everything right. What about this families that comes here because they really needed a break. You came to this land and just took what you wanted. You didn’t ask to share the land you just took the land. How about that. Why don’t you get back on your ships and go back where ever it is you came from?
Posted by: Eric | March 15, 2010, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
the day the 14 million illegals get there citizen papers most of them will be of no use to there employers. they did not hire them because they were concerned about there health or well being, its because they are cheep labor and they don’t have pay payroll taxes and insurance or benefits. the employers will just find a new wave of illegals that will work for less
Posted by: wtobias | March 15, 2010, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
The USA hasove 300 million citizens. We have 260 million native Americans born and raised here and another 40 million recent citizens born in another country. We allow one million LEGAL immigrants here each year.
Illegal aliens from all nations have invaded ad occupied our country. They are lawbreakers, like the Russian Mafia and the Salvadoran MS13. Most LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigrants come from Mexico.
In the last 15 years millions of legal immigrants from Mexico have followed their dream to America. They respect our laws, culture, freedom, opportunity and people. They have gladly submitted to extensive criminal background checks and health checks. They have paid $1,000s in fees, proven financial responsibility, agreed to not be a financial burden on our nation, learned English and waited patiently to become citizens of the U.S. and pledge their allegiance to our nation. They are honest, have integrity and good character and are welcome additions to our community.
During the same time millions more have come from Mexico illegally to make more money. They have overstayed visas and stolen across our borders like sneak thieves, disrespecting our laws, culture and citizens. They are anarchists, further breaking our laws by using stolen Social Security numbers, fraudulent identity documents, driving without valid licenses or insurance, lying on I-9 forms and taking American jobs in an unholy alliance with criminal employers. They suck services and tax dollars from our economy and could care less about the very real and very extensive economic damage they have caused to American workers through lost jobs and reduced wages. They are dishonest with poor integrity and tarnished character. They have proven themselves to be unworthy of the most valuable citizenship in the world. No pathway, no amnesty for illegal aliens from ANY country.
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Posted by: Estoban | March 15, 2010, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
eric i guess you aren’t into history check into to the start of the industrial revolution and the child labor. and the Irish, the Italians, french, ect. immigrants working the sweat shops with so OSHA or job safty or security or the blacks working the fields they bussed them from one state to another for work they were payed penny’s an hr. my family came over from Ireland during the potato blight as far as i know they did not have anything to do with slaves or the Indians, but they did come here legally as with many millions they did not just walk over a border and make demands
Posted by: wtobias | March 15, 2010, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
I like the comments about legal immigrants being less sought after by employers than legals. Don’t use temp services.. just go to the local lumber giant parking lot.. to recruit.
Everyone should watch the movie:
‘A Day Without a Mexican’
Posted by: DontGet818onMeNow | March 15, 2010, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
DontGet818onMeNow,
You should also know that the concept of an illegal immigrant was not actually created until the 1920 Immigration Act. Which limited those from Eastern Europe and Asia. There were virtually no immigrants from south of the border and if there were they probably came here ‘legally’. Basically there was no established immigration system when your family came to this country. And Americans have always been discriminating a certain group before it was the Irish, Germans, and Italians and now they are Hispanics or of the majority Mexicans.
Posted by: posermylove | March 15, 2010, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
stop being ignorant… families should not be separated.. we need an immigration reform and we need it now!
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Posted by: ingrid | Mar 15, 2010 2:00:41 PM
I’m with you Ingrid!
Reform the laws NOW!
When you ship back immigrants send the kids with them.
Families should not be separated.
Posted by: Noz | March 15, 2010, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
The problem with the Mexican illegals is south of the border.. they are forced to cross the border in order to support their families.. and I agree, Cubans were welcomed and Haitians were rejected due to a different shade of skin.
The Irish immigrants said that they had heard the streets of America were paved with gold.. and when they got here, they found out that they were not only not gold, but unpaved and they expected the immigrants to pave them…
Posted by: DontGet818onMeNow | March 15, 2010, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
“Cubans were welcomed and Haitians were rejected due to a different shade of skin.” – DontGet818onMeNow
You may or may not be right about that DontGet818onMeNow.
Regardless, this injustice needs to be rectified.
Both illegal Cubans and Haitians need to be rejected.
No more double standard!
No more wet foot dry foot policy.
It will help both Cuba and Haiti.
Posted by: Noz | March 15, 2010, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
And how pray tell would Mr. Graham be able to smell anything beyond the “stench” of his and Republican/Conservative views? If that isn’t the ‘pot callinf the kettle black”…LOL…LOL
Posted by: CND FOX | March 15, 2010, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
posermylove wrote:”. And Americans have always been discriminating a certain group before it was the Irish, Germans, and Italians and now they are Hispanics or of the majority Mexicans.”
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Funny kind of “discrimination”. Mexicans account for 15-20% of all Legal immigration and have for the past two decades. Hispanics in general account for over 40%. If anything, our immigration policy by emphasizing family reunification has FAVORED HISPANICS and especially Mexicans.
You also fail to note that a large number of Mexicans these days are ILLEGAL aliens, NOT immigrants, whereas the Irish and other immigrants you talk about came legally. You also forget to mention that there are NOW a large number of Irish and Polish illegal aliens as well, but somehow, you pro-amnesty types always claim it’s racist to oppose amnesty.
Posted by: Ali | March 15, 2010, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Ike wrote:”Would it be good,or bad to make mexico our fifty first state? We could then collect tax from all of mexico to pay for whatever problem they are causing. The richest man in the world lives in mexico. How about their natural resources. It could solve some of our problems. I don’t know what the disadvantage would be that are not already happening.”
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Ike, the problem with Mexico is, well, Mexicans. We’re already going broke providing services to illegal aliens. What do you think would happen if we had to deal with ALL of Mexico? While it does have lots of natural resources, there’s a reason that its people are generally poor: their culture. They tolerate corruption, have too many kids they can’t afford, and rather than emphasizing individual effort, education, and achievement, think that “working hard” at some menial job is the best life has to offer. They have a democracy, but look at how well it hasn’t done. No reason to think we’d do better managing it.
Posted by: Ali | March 15, 2010, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
The “PASS IT NOW, AND WE’LL FIX IT LATER*” crowd/politicians sound a lot like the management team at Toyota in regards to the “speed-up, then try to slam on the brakes, then crash, burn and die” folks managing the PRIUS et al issues
*BTW, for all you Pro-Lifers who think that the current abortion language will/can be fixed it reconciliation, super bad news. The abortion language in the current Senate Bill that The House will vote on CONNOT BE CHANGED in reconciliation, as reconciliation can ONLY deal with budget items, of which abortion does NOT qualify. So it is now/never on this issue, too.
Posted by: JMo | March 15, 2010, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Legal immigrants have made this country great. Stop the parsing – you’re either here legally or illegally. If the latter, you need to go home and please take your anchor babies with you because families should not be separated. Both sides of my family came here from Ireland during the potato famine. They came legally and worked hard – get the illegals out NOW.
Posted by: ConservativeWoman | March 15, 2010, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Eric, your post shows how little you know about America or Americans. It also shows your contempt for us. Really, really good reason not to give you or any other illegal aliens amnesty.
My immigrant ancestors worked in sweatshops circa WWI and also worked hard to get unions and labor protections–protections which scab illegal aliens have helped to undermined. You seem to think that working for low wages is a value of having illegal aliens. NOTHING could be further from the truth. It shows that they’re CHEAP labor and that that’s their only worth to their employer. Meanwhile, American taxpayers are stuck with paying for the education and healthcare of illegal aliens and their families. No, Eric, the only “immigrants” who’ll be going back to their home countries are illegal aliens, because we Native Americans have had more than enough of them.
Posted by: Ali | March 15, 2010, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Magic Repair” for our Economy, Fix what Really Broke it!
January 2008 = Start of the I.C.E. Deportations.
January 2008 = Start of the “Worst Recession in U.S. History!
This is No Co-incidence!
All States that Deported or Starved away their hard working Tax Base, are now in Total Economic Disaster!
A wise 1840′s French Historian said:
“America is great because it is good, when it ceases to be good it ceases to be great.”
I agree, and I am ashamed of many Americans who have forgotton the “Good Principles” that Built our Great Nation!
To those saying “No Amnesty, I hope your maker allows you a little “Amnesty”, I beleive you will need it!
To those ignoring our own “Citizen ” Children, you are Anti-American!
To: Good and Brotherhood, from sea to shining sea.
Posted by: David Nichols | March 15, 2010, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Armando Dizon Chan . I hate Obama. All he do with the immigration reform is talk, talk and talk and talk. I want ACTION! Talk does not lead you to do anything but to deceive
Posted by: ArmandoDizonChan | March 15, 2010, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
It’s so much hate in this country…Yet nobody realized that we start to treat these poor people like Hitler treat the Jews and yet we still use them every day…Let’s ship them out to Auschwitz …Good bless AMERICA
Posted by: Theone | March 15, 2010, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Why do people always say “Mexicans” those are not the only ones who are illegal how about people from South America get your facts straight!People are against illegal immigrants because they do not pay taxes well again get your facts straight because they do pay for taxes. All those who are against illegal-aliens is because they feel like they are ruining America but it’s already ruined!REMEMBER THIS COUNTRY WAS MADE UP OF IMMIGRANTS!! So please stop opposing in the end the Immigration Reform will be passed!
Posted by: Nayelly | March 15, 2010, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Estoban said it best, the only reason they are wanted is because they will do it for so cheap. If they got legalized, they are by law protected from cheap wages, not to mention how unions want to unionize them right away.
Put the military on the border, build a 50 ft wall with machine guns. Eliminate birthright citizenship, no benefits, no education, nothing. That is how you get rid of illegals.
Posted by: Beast | March 15, 2010, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
dont be hatin’ people! REFORM IS NEEDED NOW!
Posted by: kiki | March 15, 2010, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
you have no idea how hard working these immigrants are. ilegal immigrants are not only mexicans, okay? a lot of them are from different countries and fyi, most of them are well eductaed people and have a college degree!
Posted by: kiki | March 15, 2010, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Ali, you say i don’t know about America/Americans. Why would i want to know more about americans that cant reason.
You said it your ancestors not you. And yes some immigrants do abuse the system i have seen it. But you also have racist americans ( kkk and all those Nazi wanna be white folks) not just because you a few Americans acting like that don’t mean all are racist.
Same for immigrants, some abuse the system some are here for real reason. yes i wont say that they don’t break laws and your right. But when they system is broken like it is don’t you think we need to fix it?
my post wast to point out what all americans seem to be saying that illegals are taking jobs. tell me have you worked at a sweatshop? have you worked at farm fields picking up grapes or other type of crop?
you say we native americans, were did “americans” come from? Your ancestors came to this continent by ship from another continent and took land from Natives of this land. You speak of learning the language and taking in the culture from this nation. When your Ancestors didn’t do that. You took when natives didn’t complied to your demands you killed them.
All i’m saying is that look at history before you talk like you walked in your ancestors shoes. You talk about no jobs out there. you mean no jobs out there that are lay-back, easy jobs. try working in a sweatshop and make a living out of that.
you say amnesty, when did i say amnesty? I don’t think amnesty is the way to go. I think that they should fix the immigration laws but give the illegals some way towards some sort of residency in this country. They need to go to the last place in line no shortcuts, but give them a fair try at showing the people of this country that they are some one worthy.
I know of a lot of immigrants that do pay taxes, they don’t drive. I know of this family that has one child and they never done any crime in this country, they lived here for 20years and they pay taxes and they lived here most of their life.
My immigrant ancestors lived here since WW1/ww2 Vietnam and they were prisoner of war. They worked in sweatshops. They served in all wars. Part of my family was here when they were building the railroads. so don’t bring that card on the table about “my ancestors” talk about now, not then.
Posted by: Eric | March 15, 2010, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Immigration is a very important issue, we cannot punish undocumented students who have been living here since they were little kids and now they have the best grades in their college or school, they need a chance to accomplish their dreams. At the same time wall in the border is not gona stop immigratis, we need alot technology in that area. Making the undocumented immigrants with no criminal record that have been living here for years pay a fine, would boost our economy.
Posted by: Phenom4ever | March 15, 2010, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Yes I have seen that movie and it will be sad because no one will cater to Americans LOL…. The immigration system is truly broken and it needs fixing it now now now. Families were being torn apart and separated wives, husbands and children because of the man made law ” What God has put them together no man should set them apart I am talking about husband and wife. I think a 3 – and 10 year bar is so harsh and cruel.
Posted by: Love2watch | March 15, 2010, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
I think we do not need to pass Amnesty, Mr President Obama can pass can sign an executive order in amending the 1996 Laws pertaining to the 3 – 10 year Bar because this punishment is so severe and it’s in violation of every human rights. Separation of once spouse it is hard enough how much more with the children. We should all ask the US Senate and the Congress ” What if they were in this position separating themselves with thier family how would they feel about it? These laws were very cruel and harsh and American families were being affected by it.
Posted by: Love2watch | March 15, 2010, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
Does anyone have a clue as to why the illegal people from south of the border even come here in the first place. They think that America is rich because we pay people by the hour. In Mexico people generally make what is equal to $4-$8 a DAY. Could you pay your bills and feed your family for $8 a day. I don’t think so.
Posted by: angels2513 | March 15, 2010, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
I know a local restaurant used illigal immigrant as cook, waiter and cashier. Each immigrant $5 per hour and worked 12 hour shift without overtime with only one day off. And sometime they have to work on dayoff also. All have to work like salve for 6 year to get their greecard application process.
Posted by: 2010Slave | March 15, 2010, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
It’s time to act Mr Obama! you have to accomplish your promises !! You are just being worst than Bush the one who were so criticized by yourself!! Do not hear the voice of Corporations hear the voice of people!! Corporations will not give you votes, individuals yes, so be good with people who elected you!!
Posted by: Gorki | March 16, 2010, 12:27 am 12:27 am
I am not for Illegals who commit crimes or misuse but for some who have made lives here in the US I think it’s only justifiable to integrate them into the system, that’s why I’m praying very hard for the immigration reform bill.
I know for a fact that there is a Sri Lankan couple who ran several montessori schools in the San Diego area and hire illegals but pay them almost 1/4 of the salary that they put on the payslips of their teachers. These teachers seem to be prisoners in this schools for years.
Posted by: Ming | March 16, 2010, 1:03 am 1:03 am
I’m am staunchly conservative, but of mixed opinion here. Those that come to join gangs, sell drugs, impregnate young girls and generally rip off the system — I have no sympathy – send them back.
On the other hand, I know several people who are probably illegal. They are very hard-working, very sincere. They want to belong, they want to contribute, they would make outstanding citizens, if only given a chance.
It’s a difficult situation here in Southern California…
In earlier times we sought immigration from those groups that would help to build a stronger, better America. Now, it seems, we are driven by political correctness.
We have many at home who turn their noses at certain jobs. Maybe we should tell them “those that will not work, neither shall they eat”. There are many here already who would like to stay, and many more who would like to come who are not so discriminating. Maybe we should welcome them.
But let’s make it people who fundamentally share our values: Canadians and Mexicans. Let’s not continue to bring in people who come here not to become American, but to turn America into something else.
Posted by: Quo Warranto | March 16, 2010, 1:38 am 1:38 am
To all of you who think that immigration reform should happen, I AGREE! My wife is from another country, and I have spent the necessary amount, (between 1,500 and 2,000) to become a citizen. I FOLLOWED THE LAW! SHE FOLLOWED THE LAW! NO illegal immigrant should get a “free ride” on that. If they are here illegally, then, they ARE breaking the law. Why can’t some of you see that? Instead, we resort to the PC words “Undocumented Alien” or “Citizen” or whatever else it may be next.
To answer the question, about why people keep saying “Mexicans,” stop being so sensitive. The country closest to us with the highest hispanic (or latino if you prefer) population is, tada, MEXICO! What ethnic minority group in the USA is the fastest growing? WOW! Hispanic! Now, maybe if most of the people coming in were saying “eh?” at the end of there sentences, or speaking FRENCH, we might refer to them as Canadians. Most are coming from Mexico… ergo, Mexicans. Lastly, I am 1/2 Native American, American Indian, Indian, or whatever PC term you want to label me with. I don’t feel like I am owed anything. Nor will I attack the “white man” with rhetoric over something that occurred CENTURIES AGO. OMG! MY NEIGHBOR IS WHITE! HE MIGHT STEAL MY LAND, RIGHT? My Mother is Indian, my father White. THANK GOD WHITE PEOPLE CAME HERE, OR BY THE LAWS OF GENETICS, I WOULD NOT EXIST! THANK GOD IN HIS WISDOM FOR THE SLAVERY THAT ONCE EXISTED HERE BECAUSE IF NOT FOR THAT MANY OF MY FRIENDS WOULD NOT EXIST! Here is my WHOLE point in this: If you do not follow the law, you are breaking it. So, be thankful for where you are, proud of where you come from, and NEVER be afraid to tell people your opinion. If they agree, great. If not, SO THE #$%@ WHAT!
Posted by: Mike | March 16, 2010, 3:12 am 3:12 am
“Families were being torn apart and separated wives, husbands and children because of the man made law ” What God has put them together no man should set them apart I am talking about husband and wife.” – Love2watch
Good point Love2watch.
When you ship back immigrants send the wife/husband and kids with them.
Families should not be separated.
Posted by: Noz | March 16, 2010, 7:56 am 7:56 am
Im glad to see most of the people in this forum agrees with an immigration reform! thanks for understanding this is an immigration based great country!!!!
Posted by: OMG | March 16, 2010, 8:06 am 8:06 am
and for those who dont tolerate the idea of united states as an immigrant based country we are sorry for you but thats the reality,that is what america is all about, love it or leave it!!!!
pd. that has been like that since john adams so dont bother me saying your granny got hear legally because this hard working people deserve an opportunity as well. ok? God bless you and God bless America.
Posted by: OMG | March 16, 2010, 8:26 am 8:26 am
“Im glad to see most of the people in this forum agrees with an immigration reform!” – OMG
You bet OMG, it is long overdue.
We need to start enforcing the laws, secure the borders and send back the illegals.
Pass Reform NOW!
Posted by: Noz | March 16, 2010, 8:51 am 8:51 am
I marched against amnesty for immigrants and was happy it did not pass. What I feel is that if people want to migrate here and become citizens and pay taxes…fine with me. Those who just want to come here and not become citizens…I am not too happy with. I will admit that many immigrants are hard working and family people but I don’t understand why they would not want to become a citizen. It is not that they have to give up being a citizen of whereever they come from. Those who have committed crimes should be punished and deported permanently and we need to institute some form of checking on everyone who enters. The boarders are chaos and this is a shame. Those who live near the boarders are suffering terribly and we are not doing enough to help them. Their homes are being burglarized, their property ruined by squatters and they live in fear. Not right for Americans to be subjected to this nonesense There is no easy answer but one needs to be worked on after the health bill is passed. One hard thing at a time.
Posted by: talmag | March 16, 2010, 9:59 am 9:59 am
Everybody talks about illegals, but what about legals who came here on H1 , L1 , they paid taxes for years and never committed crime or was here illegally even one day, still their Green Card processes are backlogged for 10-12 years.
Immigration system sucks here, and broken. We need reform for Legals also
Posted by: Indian_H1B | March 16, 2010, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
@ OMG
Romans 13
Submission to the Authorities
“1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4For he is God’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. 6This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”
Legal immigrants understand this. Illegal aliens don’t.
Posted by: Estoban | March 16, 2010, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Mr Graham if you and your cohorts would consider working with this administration, much could be done. The most important thing at this time is health care. The rising rates of insurance companies is unbelivable and needs to be reighned in. They have total power and have everyone over a barrell. They have been making profits beyond believe for the past two years even though there is a recession. For someone to pay 8 or 9thousand dollars a month and to the insurance companies, and their costs only be 900 dollars is criminal. They cry that they need it for their bills. When a company makes 400% profit..trust me their bills have been covered…Profits comes after all bills are paid. They are fooling no one and for you Mr. Graham to stand by these companies makes me feel you are not acting in the nest interest of the people. I thought you were one that understood that obstructionism does not help anyone and here you are becoming another obstructionist. President Obama will attend to immigration and you will still fight him so get off your high horse unless you plan to work together to get an immigration bill. Wait until he starts it…it won’t be what you or your party likes. The”NO’s will become prevalent again.
Posted by: talmag | March 16, 2010, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
I’m confused, what part of illegal don’t you get? Good people don’t do illegal things. Desperate people might. You’re a guest and should conduct yourselves as such, and guest should never be little my home, my rules, or disrespect my space. If you’re a guest’ then act like one. If want more; earn it. On the other hand a guest should never be abused or taken advantage of. A guest should be treated with respect. I would never deny medical care or food to a fish much less a human being; but once healed and fed back to your home you go, until you can earn the right to be here.
Posted by: Lisa | March 16, 2010, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Attention. People, it’s to much hate here. let’s go to reality for a while. Some people say: illegals take my land and my country. Well, everybody knows who’s land it was. Illegals take our jobs. Well, millions and millions jobs were sent out to China and other countries. Talk to your senator or congressman to bring those jobs back here. Illegals milking the system for benefits . Well, many legal ones sitting on welfare for many years (especially section 8. subsidized housing). Illegal’s must come here legally. Well, just try and I wish you good luck, unless you come from Asia or Africa on political asylum. Sent out all illegals back to their countries and their kids too. First of all, kids born here are citizens like you and their kids will not be citizens over there. The second. How about jobs: picking vegetables or working on meat plants. Who want to take those jobs? Bankers, Wall Street speculators or maybe you? I think we should be fair and civilized not to divide people by status or race. Instead, we should appreciate all people including illegals, who are talented and work hard making this country Great. We need reform now.
Posted by: Alex | March 16, 2010, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
So good comment….
“Families were being torn apart and separated wives, husbands and children because of the man made law ” What God has put them together no man should set them apart I am talking about husband and wife.” – Love2watch
Good point Love2watch.
When you ship back immigrants send the wife/husband and kids with them.
Families should not be separated.
Posted by: Ilan Ben Menachem | March 18, 2010, 5:10 am 5:10 am
You haters can have your temper tantrums and curse all you want. I support amnesty cause, as many other farmers in this country I need the hard working culture these people bring. I totally support amnesty and don’t buy the Fox news hate propaganda.nor the conservative radio hate mongering.
Posted by: Andrew Canard | March 19, 2010, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Amnesty is not the answer, it was done before and we still have a problem. The president has clearly been AWOL on this subject and was rightly called on it.
Posted by: cv | March 19, 2010, 11:24 am 11:24 am
What happened to JOB CREATION?
It’s becoming clear that Immigration is depriving our country of much needed funding. Hospitals are shutting down because the law mandates that they take in any one (illegal). Healthcare is directly affected by Illegal Immigrants. This Immigration talk makes me despise the President and his party even further. He has done nothing but spend our tax money. What’s worse, is that tax payers are not benefiting from it all.
Posted by: susan | March 23, 2010, 1:01 am 1:01 am
IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.
IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.
IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.
IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.
IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.
IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.
IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.
IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET
1 – A JOB,
2 – A DRIVERS LICENSE,
3 – SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,
4 – WELFARE,
5 – FOOD STAMPS,
6 – CREDIT CARDS,
7 – SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,
8 – FREE EDUCATION,
9 – FREE HEALTH CARE,
10 – A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON
11 – BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE
12 – AND THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY’S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON’T GET ENOUGH RESPECT
Posted by: call me Roy | March 23, 2010, 10:50 am 10:50 am
An exclusive investment agency estimates US illegal immigrants to reach about 20 million people. If President Obama would give in to their calls, wouldn’t that possibly be 20 million democrats? Plus the yearly percentage increase?
Posted by: Immigrant kid | April 22, 2010, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm