The Week: Health care prospects in balance, but politics are set
By Rick Klein: The politics isn’t waiting on the policy. This is the week that health care either does or doesn’t get done. But the law of this land is that the choices for 2010 have already been made. And those trying to decide whether it’s better for your party (either party) for health care to pass or for health care to fail — you won’t have that choice much longer. The fact that this is another health care week — as opposed to a financial-regulatory reform week, or an education week, or an immigration week, or a jobs week — tells you what you need to know about health care’s impact on the legislative landscape. There can and will be no other issue commanding the requisite political attention until or unless health care is dispatched with. And if that doesn’t happen this week… Get ready for the final, final press: “I believe it is going to happen this week,” senior White House adviser David Axelrod told ABC’s Jake Tapper, on “This Week” Sunday. Not the Monday bullet points the White House wanted — and a dangerous storyline if it becomes again about process: “President Barack Obama appears ready to reverse his position and allow unpopular deal-sweetening measures in the hopes of finding Democratic support for legislation whose future will be decided in coming days,” the AP’s Ben Feller reports. “Increasingly eager to finish work on his top domestic priority, Obama was set to head to northeast Ohio on Monday with a final sales pitch for health care legislation that the top Democratic vote-counter in the House said lacked support to pass.” President Obama speaks in Ohio at 1:05 pm ET Monday, while the House Budget Committee whirls into action at 3 pm ET — assuming the Congressional Budget Office numbers on the reconciliation package are out in time. Your timeline, if everything goes right (yes, we know): “House Democrats expect to receive a final cost estimate by Monday afternoon, when the House Budget Committee is scheduled to vote on the reconciliation package. It would then go to the House Rules Committee, where Chairman Louise M. Slaughter (D-N.Y.) could package it with the $875 billion measure the Senate passed on Christmas Eve,” Dan Eggen writes in The Washington Post. “The full House is expected to vote on both measures by week’s end, with the climactic moment coming as soon as Thursday but, more likely, Friday or Saturday.” “Because their whip efforts have been so sensitive, leaders wouldn’t say it outright last week, but they essentially have a deal on what to include in the crucial health care reconciliation bill,” Roll Call’s Emily Pierce writes. “The chief uncertainties are whether they can get 216 House Members and 51 Senators to vote for it and whether the measure will remain intact during an expected onslaught of amendments and points of order from Senate Republicans.” ABC’s Jon Karl, on the “no” votes that need to become “yes” votes: “We have called all 37 of those Democrats, and have yet to find a single one willing to say definitively they will vote yes, although at least a few are saying they’re willing to consider it,” Karl reported on “Good Morning America” Monday. “After all the presidential speeches and high-level negotiations, the fate of President Obama’s health care legislation now rests with a handful of House Democrats whose names few will recognize outside their districts,” USA Today’s John Fritze reports. Going into the defining vote of a Congress, and a presidency: “After nearly a year of haggling, most of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s 252 Democratic colleagues still have concerns about passing the Senate bill, even with some fixes. Their objections range from the ideological to the procedural, and the shape of the final package hinges on an obscure, unelected official — Senate parliamentarian Alan Frumin,” Politico’s Patrick O’Connor reports. But first, Strongsville, Ohio — Cleveland area, but not Obama territory: “President Barack Obama can expect to be greeted with a mixture of cheers and jeers when he rolls into town tomorrow,” Brian Byrne writes in the Sun Star Courier. “While a large crowd anxiously waited in line Sunday afternoon at the Walter F. Ehrnfelt Recreation and Senior Center for tickets to attend Obama’s speech there at 1 p.m. on Monday, a group of conservative-minded residents gathered to prepare to rally against the president’s policies.” Why Ohio? “It’s a state he picked so that he could appear alongside a local woman, Natoma Canfield, whose struggles with insurance premiums President Obama has been talking about,” ABC’s Jake Tapper reported on “Good Morning America” Monday. “But since the president started talking about her story, Canfield’s story has become even more tragic…. She was just diagnosed with leukemia.” Vice President Joe Biden gets into the Ohio act, too: “When it comes to President Barack Obama’s health care reform bill, U.S. Rep. Steve Driehaus’ vote has become a hot ticket. With a vote on the health care bill likely this month, the West Price Hill Democrat will be the beneficiary of a fundraising visit by Vice President Joe Biden on Monday,” the Cincinnati Enquirer’s Malia Rulon reports. Says Driehaus, D-Ohio: “I appreciate the vice president coming in. But it has no bearing whatsoever on my health care vote. … I will not bend on the principle of federal funding on abortion.” Attention fence-sitters: “The yearlong legislative fight over health care is drawing to a frenzied close as a multimillion-dollar wave of advertising that rivals the ferocity of a presidential campaign takes aim at about 40 House Democrats whose votes will help determine the fate of President Obama’s top domestic priority,” Jeff Zeleny writes in The New York Times. “Not only are these swing Democrats being pummeled in the new spate of advertising — which could total $30 million before week’s end — but extensive efforts are under way in Congressional districts, where groups on both sides of the issue are using tactics similar to get-out-the-vote drives to urge constituents to contact their lawmakers.” What’s this worth? “The White House has signaled to lawmakers that assistance for midterm elections — for example, presidential visits and fund-raisers — will be prioritized for those who support the bill,” Zeleny continues. “Organizing for America, the network of volunteers that developed from the Obama campaign, is also developing an extensive plan to help explain the health care bill to voters in the event that it passes.” Process this: Former judge Michael W. McConnell, in a Wall Street Journal op-ed: “Enter the Slaughter solution. It may be clever, but it is not constitutional. To become law — hence eligible for amendment via reconciliation — the Senate health-care bill must actually be signed into law. The Constitution speaks directly to how that is done. According to Article I, Section 7, in order for a ‘Bill’ to ‘become a Law,’ it ‘shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate’ and be ‘presented to the President of the United States’ for signature or veto. Unless a bill actually has ‘passed’ both Houses, it cannot be presented to the president and cannot become a law.” Flashback to Friday, Rep. David Dreier, ranking Republican on the House Rules Committee: “They can do it if they are able to get 216 votes,” he said on ABC’s “Top Line,” “but I will tell you something: The American people get it. The one thing that I’ve found is that they’ve learned the process is substance.” If you even care to do your own whip counts at this point: “According to The Hill’s tracking of member positions, 35 Democrats say they are going to vote no or are likely to vote no. Another 73 are publicly undecided,” The Hill’s Molly K. Hooper and Bob Cusack report. “Of course, it is impossible to read the minds of legislators, and it is highly probable that some undecided Democrats have decided. For tactical and other reasons, they are deciding to keep their votes to themselves — and perhaps Democratic leaders.” New from the DCCC: SpeakerPelosi.com. “Our Republican opponents and their special interest allies are spending millions on ad campaigns based on misinformation, distortion and fear. We cannot let them stand in the way of these critical reforms,” the e-mail out Monday reads. “When Republicans attack, we must knock down their smears and falsehoods with the truth – with stories from real, hardworking Americans who have been forced to put their dreams on hold because of our country’s broken health care system – and that’s why I need to hear from you.” New from MoveOn.org — an e-mail going out to members Monday takes on moderate Democrats: “Health care reform is in serious danger in the House of Representatives: with a handful of conservative Democrats wavering, we don’t yet have the votes to pass the final bill. So we’re asking every MoveOn member: will you pledge to support progressive primary challengers to House Democrats who side with Republicans to kill health care reform?” While you’re watching the House… “Senate Republicans are threatening to put up hundreds of amendments — one of the few weapons in their limited arsenal — to force Democrats to take difficult votes on politically sensitive subjects,” the Washington Times’ Jennifer Haberkorn reports. “Amendments don’t have to be relevant to the subject matter under the controversial tactic Democrats are using to avoid a filibuster, so Republicans can force Democrats to take tough votes on any number of matters, such as closing the detention facility for terrorism suspects at the U.S. Naval Base Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.” Conceiving of the inconceivable: “If the President fails to win the upcoming series of congressional votes designed to get health care legislation to his desk, it will be a calamitous failure for his presidency and for him personally, dwarfing the potholes he has hit during his first bumpy year in office,” Time’s Mark Halperin writes. “Should the effort collapse, regaining political traction would be nigh impossible any time soon, if ever. And a potential comeback would be in further jeopardy because Obama is so unaccustomed to losing.” All you really need to know about the broader landscape: “Moderate House Democrats facing potentially difficult reelections this fall have a message for President Barack Obama: Don’t call us; we’ll call you,” Politico’s Jonathan Martin writes. “Interviews with nearly a dozen congressional Democrats on the ballot this year reveal a decided lack of enthusiasm for having Obama come to their districts to campaign for them — the most basic gauge of a president’s popularity.” “Few pieces of the mosaic that is the Democratic Party seem happy,” the AP’s Liz Sidoti writes. “Labor and gays are restless. Blacks and Hispanics are grumbling. Liberals and moderates are battling. Even some in Hollywood are disappointed. Obama must bring together — and fire up — the many Democratic coalitions if he hopes to minimize expected losses for his party this fall in his first midterm elections. The risk if he doesn’t is that Democrats could become so disaffected that they stay home in November.” Where the agenda goes from here: “Despite holding high-profile meetings last week on energy and immigration reform, President Obama will focus the next few months on two issues that could help his party in November: stronger financial regulations and ways to mitigate a Supreme Court ruling that allows direct corporate spending on behalf of candidates,” The Washington Post’s Scott Wilson writes. “Such an agenda will give the rest of the legislative calendar, compressed by the midterm election season, a distinctly political cast. It will also push energy and immigration reform, two of Obama’s most far-reaching campaign pledges, into the next Congress, which is likely to be more influenced by the Republican opposition,” Wilson continues. “His post-health-care agenda, described by senior administration officials publicly and privately last week, is far more attuned to the politics of an election year during which his party will be fighting to protect majorities in the House and Senate.” Time for regulatory reform, at last, with Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., moving without Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn.: “The senator trying to rewrite the nation’s financial industry rules is dropping plans to create a stand-alone consumer financial protection agency and give a single regulator the power to oversee all banks, according to people familiar with the evolving proposal,” the AP’s Jim Kuhnhenn reports. “Backing away from the proposal he offered four months ago, the chairman of the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee is now incorporating GOP ideas, and yet not one Republican senator is coming along so far.” “The shift follows a push from the Obama administration, which sees a political advantage in pushing legislation taking aim at Wall Street,” The Wall Street Journal’s Damian Paletta writes. “Mr. Dodd’s bill would allow the Fed to examine any bank-holding company with more than $50 billion in assets, and large financial companies that aren’t banks could be lassoed into the Fed’s supervisory orbit. This came after Treasury officials pushed Mr. Dodd to bring more companies under the Fed’s purview.” Bloomberg’s Alison Vekshin: “The plan Dodd will release today may seek to create a consumer division at the Federal Reserve with power to write rules that could be overturned by a two-thirds vote of a planned systemic-risk council, according to two Senate aides with knowledge of the plan. The unit would have its own budget, a director appointed by the president and power to crack down on banks with assets exceeding $10 billion, said one of the aides.” John Harwood, in The New York Times: “Mr. Corker, a former Chattanooga mayor, pointed to Democrats’ pursuit of health reform under special budget rules preventing a Republican filibuster, insisting that the effort poisoned the atmosphere when ‘we were so close’ to success. Mr. Dodd saw a simpler cause. ‘It’s not the rules of the place,’ he declared. ‘It’s the chemistry of the place.’ ” Education time, too: “President Obama said he would send to Congress on Monday a blueprint for overhauling the nation’s education program and the No Child Left Behind project to improve schools, support teachers and set standards that would give high school graduates ‘the best chance to succeed in a changing world,’ ” Richard A. Serrano reports in the Los Angeles Times. “We have to educate our way to a better economy,” Education Secretary Arne Duncan told George Stephanopoulos on “GMA” Monday. “We have to have a high bar — college- and career-ready standards for every single child…. We’re looking to make some dramatic changes here.” “President Barack Obama’s brewing fight with teachers unions over his plans to overhaul education legislation could end up being a political trifecta for liberal Democrats, Republicans and a president eager to demonstrate he can work across party lines,” Politico’s Nia-Malika Henderson writes. “As for Obama, a rewrite of No Child Left Behind on his desk would let him claim a bipartisan legislative win, something that has so far eluded his administration on other domestic issues like health care and climate change legislation.” Just maybe consuming whatever other oxygen was left… Justice John Paul Stevens tells The New Yorker’s Jeffrey Toobin that he’ll make a decision about retirement by April: “When I decided to just hire one clerk, three of my four clerks last year said they’d work for me next year if I wanted them to,” Stevens says. “So I have my options still. And then I’ll have to decide soon.” Plus: “You can say I will retire within the next three years. I’m sure of that.” Rielle Hunter speaks: “You know, it was just this, this magnetic force field like I had never experienced,” Hunter says of meeting John Edwards, to GQ’s Lisa DePaulo, as reported by The Washington Post’s “Reliable Source.” Umm — really? “Andrew [Young] would put $5,000 a month into my bank account. One month it was $6,000. He told me it was on the up-and-up and it was a gift. I had no idea where it was coming from.” From the folks who brought you “Demon Sheep”…. Carly Fiorina’s other rival, Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., is a giant blimp floating over the landscape. “Her elitist self-image grew so that it overwhelmed the Capitol and drifted west,” the voice-over (actor Robert Davi, again) says, per Politico’s Ben Smith.
The Kicker: “I guess everybody remembered I still have subpoena powers.” — Attorney General Martha Coakley, D-Mass., thanking organizers for the invitation to the annual St. Patrick’s Day Breakfast in South Boston. ”Scientists are studying Sarah Palin’s travel between Alaska and Florida carefully. They hope to learn more about the flight patterns of that elusive migratory species, the wild Alaskan dingbat.” — Campaign e-mail from Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla.
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Reids own family is divastated by the accident. His wife has a broken neck and back and Reid is not even with her to comfort her. This is a prime example of Reids cold hearted character. As a leader of the senate he can be reahed where ever he is. They can make pecil arrangements for him to be with his family. Reid we the majority do not want your plan.
Posted by: Jim Rod | March 15, 2010, 9:31 am 9:31 am
The Majority of Americans Voted for our President Obama, Obama cleary Ran on Health Care Reform. Can’t you Sore loser Republican Right Wingers understand that? Stop with the “The Majority doesn’t want Healthcare” non-sense.. What they don’t want is the Plan Watered down thanks to Republican opposition.. But Obamas final Plan will surely flush out all of that Republican Crap stuffed into the former bill to weaken it….
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Jim Rod: Why am I not surprised? How low can the right-wing go to stop progress in our country? So you have found a way to link the Reid family accident to the healthcare bill?
What a shame!
Posted by: New Wave | March 15, 2010, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Jim Rod wrote: “Reids own family is divastated by the accident. His wife has a broken neck and back and Reid is not even with her to comfort her.”
What you’re writing is call “libel”.
In case you missed it, the accident happened in the D.C. area, his wife was in a D.C. hospital, and both she and her daughter already been released and sent home. Reid was reported to have been in and out of the hospital “to comfort her”, including going to the hospital as soon as he heard of the accident.
Why would you make up and throw mud in this case? Sad!
Posted by: The_Mick | March 15, 2010, 10:37 am 10:37 am
The administration is not being straight with the people on the cost of this bill. Everyones taxes will go up. Then we have to fix social security and medicare. More taxes. We can’t afford this bill. Anyone who has argued for the bill has not stated how it would be paid for.
Posted by: Jeff | March 15, 2010, 10:53 am 10:53 am
This supposed “healthcare reform” is going to hurt everyone except for the very poorest, who, by the way, already have help through medical. There are numerous bribes and special interest “help”. And while Obama may have won the election it is what he does now that matters and people are seeing that he is not the person he tried to present himself as. DO NOT PASS THIS BILL!!
Posted by: honey92345 | March 15, 2010, 10:54 am 10:54 am
honey92345: Your so-called ‘bribes and deals’ are what the Senate plans to remove through the reconciliation process. You can’t have it both ways.
If you do not want the ‘bribes and deals’ as you claim, why stop the process to remove them from the bill?
Posted by: New Wave | March 15, 2010, 11:00 am 11:00 am
If you do not want the ‘bribes and deals’ as you claim, why stop the process to remove them from the bill?
Posted by: New Wave | Mar 15, 2010 11:00:33 AM
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Because once the bill passes, who says there are going to remove them? They would not have to and the politicains would not let them, those bribes are the only reason they are voting for it in the first place.
Posted by: honey92345 | March 15, 2010, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Yeah, really this is the last push. How
many times has he said that. He can’t get
people on board with this pig of a bill
and even his own party is running for the
hills. How do you spell tone deaf?
O B A M A
Posted by: wis134 | March 15, 2010, 11:21 am 11:21 am
The democrats just don’t get it. We don’t want the bill, that is the American people. Your fringe base may want it, but the rest of us don’t. We don’t want to saddle our children with their parents health care costs. What part of selfish don’t the democrats understand?
Posted by: jonny | March 15, 2010, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Why have they added ‘all education loans must go through the govt’ to the healthcare bill? What do higher education loans have to do with healthcare?
Posted by: deanbob | March 15, 2010, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Bushes two unfunded failed wars based on republican fabrications are whats hurt Americans.. Over 4000 of our best killed needlessly and what does Cheney say? SO! Typical Heartless insensitive CEO response…
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 11:46 am 11:46 am
I have HEALTH CARE screw everyone else! Why should I pay for anyones Healthcare as long as I get my Government Medicaid! Why should I help my Neighber! He’s a NEGRO and HE MUST FAIL! No matter how Manny Americans go without Healthcare! Typical Right Wing Republican Rants… But hey, They’re GREAT Americans! LOL
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 11:49 am 11:49 am
The only Bill that people don’t want is the one that has been polluted with Republican Goodies for the Insurance Companies… Thank God that Bill is being cleaned up Stop stalling and doing nothing!
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 11:50 am 11:50 am
In the depression of 1921, the Harding (then Cooledge) administration cut govt spending 50% and cut taxes from 75% to 25% by 1926. Unemployment dropped from 11+% to 1.8% – lowest ever in peacetime.
Posted by: deanbob | March 15, 2010, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Bush, Cheney and their Administration have destroyed our Economy thanks to Deregulations, our Moral thanks to two failed unfunded Wars based on lies, and our Global image thanks to Bushes Cowboy Politics over their Eight years in office but you Republicans want Obama to fix it all up in a year? BWWHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHAAAA Remember Freedom Fries, that idiotic attempt by the Right Wingers to get France to buy into Bushes Bogus War… What Buffoons….
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 11:55 am 11:55 am
It long past time for the left to get over their obsession with race. Please quit bringing it up.
Posted by: deanbob | March 15, 2010, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Where do I begin? Vitriolic name calling, character assassination, mis-representation of the facts emotional reactions WILL NOT the hysterical, perceived urgency of passing the Obama-care plan currently before Congress.
Let’s look at the FACTS:
1) How much will this cost? NO ONE KNOWS!! But every major big government plan has cost BILLIONS of dollars more than originally estimated (e.g., cash for clunkers, stimulus plan, social security, medicare)
2) Why is there such an urgency? Could it be that proponents believe they have to pass it while they have the power. POLITICS?? It may be taking decades because the compelling factors have still not been addressed
3) Why are the right wing, Christian, conservative fanatics leading protests against this “life saving” plan for bigger government control? The constitution was written to allow citizens the right to govern by their representatives. Town-hall meetings are not effective because egotistical, know-it-all elected representatives do not listen to the concerns expressed (by not scheduling, cutting off microphones, using slander to belittle questioners orejecting from the room
4) Finally, at this time, why don’t we accept the bill as written and change it later? I’d like to know what the bill actually says. No one has seen the final wording – it’s constantly being changed. Some congressman have said it’s too long for them to read and they wouldn’t understand it anyway. THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY ARE VOTING FOR. How likely is it for ANYONE to change the law after it has been signed by the president?
Throwing the baby out with the bath water does not begin to address overhaul a system that has worked for decades. Lawyers have made a kiling on lawsuits over “mistakes” made by medical personnel and insurance companies. Those who are blamed for health crises do not get bailouts like auto workers who have screwed up.
I could go on and on but I doubt whether anyone has read this far as it is. Maybe someday we will wake up and see the results if the current proposal is adopted.
I pray that it is not to late for America.
Posted by: "Flash" Gordon | March 15, 2010, 11:57 am 11:57 am
How much has Bushes Two Wars cost the US? Trillions and how Manny innocent lives were lost because Bush had a chip on his Shoulder and had to teach Sadam a lesson? How manny hundreds of thousand innocent Iraqi Women, Men and Children died because of Bushes Cowboy Politics? How manny of our finest Americans Kids lost their lives thanks to Bush and Cheneys lies? but you people can only focus on how to dereail Obama trying to fix Health Care?
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Why does the left conveniently forget that a majority of Dems voted FOR the war and a significant number believed the same as Bush – that the Iraqis had WMD?
Posted by: deanbob | March 15, 2010, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Who has done more damage to the US, its Economy, its people and Global image? Republican Bush and Cheney or Obama? Come on, lets get a real answer to that one…
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
THE BILL WILL PASS.
It is inevitable.
We the patriotic and compassionate Americans like the Bill.
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AARP Bulletin 3/10
From Kaiser Family Foundation, Jan., 2010. Survey of American Citizens:
Give tax credits to small businesses to cover employees (73% approval)
Create health insurance exchanges to help people get coverage (67% approve).
Leave most people’s existing coverage unchanged (66% approve).
Prohibit insurers from denying coverage or charging more for people with pre-existing conditions (63% approve).
Expand Medicaid to cover more low-income people (62% approve).
Allow children coverage under parents’ insurance until age 26 (60% approve).
Help close the Medicare Part D donut hole (60% approve).
Etc., etc., etc…..
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If the Repubs want to campaign against these numbers come November, let me borrow from George Bush and say BRING IT ON.
The Repubs are running scared because they know that once this Bill passes the Dems are guaranteed to win in November.
If it were really a Kamikaze mission as the Repubs claim don’t you think they will be cheering the Dems on to their defeat?
If it were that bad for the Dems the Repubs would not be fightiong it.
I think the Repubs believe we are all idiots.
Steve_NJ.
Posted by: Steve_NJ | March 15, 2010, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Flash…….We are all too stupid to decide for ourselves. So, the WhiteHouse must decide for us. No thank you.
Posted by: deanbob | March 15, 2010, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
bush did this and bush did that and you have health care and a job and i have nothing because you have a job. what lame logic rules this debate. give me some free stuff because you worked so dam hard for its not fair cause i had to be off on weekens and the like. pathetic.
Posted by: catman | March 15, 2010, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
MajorityRule
Your comment is very dangerous, as is your name. If you believe that Obama has a right to pass anything he wishes simply because he was voted into the presidency, then you have absolutely no right to condemn anything that Bush did during his eight years in office. The majority rule does not take away the voice of everyone else. I didn’t vote for Obama because he was vague on on how he would fulfill his promises, and it is becoming clear that that was very wise of him, because he never would have had the majority if he would have told us what change he had in mind.
Posted by: wayneruff | March 15, 2010, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Steve_NJ | Mar 15, 2010 12:01:15 PM….Why is “All higher education loans must come from Washington” in the healthcare bill? We can’t afford another entitlement program because we can’t and are not paying for the ones we have – almost $107 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities and growing.
Posted by: deanbob | March 15, 2010, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
Obama deals the Corn Husker compromise but then condemns it because of public outrage, and now he’s putting the “sweetener” back in the bill to buy the votes to get health care passed? This is the kind of craziness, dishonest, back room dealing that makes me question everything inside of this health care bill.
Posted by: wayneruff | March 15, 2010, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Republican Sore losers, what part of you lost the Last Election by Majority vote aren’t you Genius’s not understanding? YOU LOST! a MAJORITY of Americans Voted against you, thanks to your Failed Republican leadership in office and their Dismall performance over the prior 8 years! YOU LOST! now step to the side and let your Elected President, Congress and Senate do their Job! if you don’t like it, then you can try to win in the next Elections.. but for now you lost, step aside and let Obama do his JOB!
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
How many lives were liberated from a monstrous dictator who had killed THOUSANDS of innoent residents in his own country. And speaking of “lies” Saddam had been using WMDs on his counrymen and refused international inspections. A majority of governments and people throughout the world supported Bush’s proposals after 9-11 attacks on the US. All of the oil money that the administration claimed our “millionairss” wanted has stayed in Iraq.
Posted by: "Flash" Gordon | March 15, 2010, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
In Case you weren’t aware, all student loans come from the Government, they just go through the Banks for processing.. Banks make a fortune playing the Middleman.. while the Government takes all the Risk.. Why not cut the Banks out of the Middle and let the US keep the Millions paid to Banks? Makes sense right? Oh, that’s right Republican Senators want the Banks to keep taking Millions from the US…
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Please support your accusations with facts. BTW, who are “you people”
Posted by: "Flash" Gordon | March 15, 2010, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Flash Gordon” if bush wanted to liberate lives why didn’t he start a war with China? who has the largest Oppressed Population in the World? Do you know how many lives were lost thanks to Bushes illegal Wars? How many innocent people died in Iraq? Bush probably killed more innocent Iraquess then Sadam ever did… But as long as the Dictator or Oppressive Country play nice with the US Republicans than all is OK and why the Bush Administration played nice with China..
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
And the student loans relate to healthcare reform how???????
Posted by: deanbob | March 15, 2010, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
The GOP says that DEMs will be kicked out in November if they pass the health bill. THEN why are they BLOCKING passage of the bill??
They now that they are lying and that the GOP will be rendered irrelevant when the people see the actual effects of the bill.
Quoting DEM Sen Whitehouse:
“There will be a reckoning. When the new health plan offers better care, new community health centers, better records, (and so on), Americans will know— beyond any capacity to spin—that they were lied to. There will come a day of judgement. That, Mr. President, is why they are terrified.”
Posted by: New Wave | March 15, 2010, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
MajorityRule,
Once again, your logic defies reason. Your comments reveal that you are more biggeted than the republicans you condemn. If you would recount history, it was Abraham Lincoln, a republican, that issued the emancipation proclamation. Republicans are not by nature any more racist, dishonest or conniving than democrats. When Bush was in office, you were granted the courtesy of your opinion, and I would appreciate it now if you would stop calling anyone who disagrees with Obama names, and dialogue about the issues that affect our constitutional rights.
Posted by: wayneruff | March 15, 2010, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
What do you think of all of the self avowed socialists and communists in the White House?
Posted by: deanbob | March 15, 2010, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
Abraham Lincoln the Republican would be turning in his Grave at the site of what his Party has become. It’s become the Party of Big Business, lies and deceit.. Do you know how many times the Bush administration claimed to have lost thousands of emails and documentations when asked to produce them? They’re Crooked and the Republican Party of today has ZERO to do with the Republican Party of Abraham Lincoln. Just like the Christian Right has Zero to do with true Christianity, Jesus would never condone the insensitivity shown by the Right Wingers towards the needy and suffering.
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
New Wave | Mar 15, 2010 12:18:47 PM….When the Dems had 60 votes in the Senate, were the Repubs blocking anything? Yet, they were accused of such? And more of the same now?
Posted by: deanbob | March 15, 2010, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
Bottom line is one of Obamas Goals while Campaigning was HEALTH CARE REFORM! a PUBLIC OPTION! out in the open and very clear.. He was elected by a Majority of Americans who knew this Clearly! So tell us again why you idiots are so upset that he’s trying to fullfill his Campaign promise of HEALTH CARE REFORM with a Public Option?
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
MajorityRule —- How does this insurance bill fix our health care system? You do realize health care costs drive insurance premiums? Where is there any cost controls of say a 2 night stay iin the ICU? An MRI? THrough all of your partisan crap, I am calling you out!
Posted by: lfrichar | March 15, 2010, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
Health Care Reform will Pass no thanks to the Republican Senators in the Pockets of the Insurance Companies and then we can move on to the next Bush Mess.. Just like Soto Mayor, all that Republican Opposition and yet she was elected and is doing a great Job… not a peep from those Republican obstructionists… and this is exactly what the Republicans fear, once Health Care reform is passed and cleaned up it will be embraced by the Majority of Sane Americans and the Republicans will lose on any talk of reversing Health Care Reform… If it were so detremental to the Democrats they wouldn’t be trying so hard to stop it…
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Funny that right-wingers now claim to be against the bill because there is no public option. Ya right !
Be careful of what you wish for. The next bill after this health bill passes will be a public option/medicare-buy in bill on its own.
Posted by: New Wave | March 15, 2010, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
I can’t say I totally agree with the health care proposals on the table, but if the Republicans can beat health care reform, I would like to know who the real winners, and losers are. I want to see the Republicans watch the people who lose everything to the medical community, including their Mother, or children, and tell everyone how they beat Obama. I want everyone losing a loved one to send a letter to John Boehner, or Mitch O’Connell thanking them for winning the fight. They can have the blood on their hands.
Posted by: parma hts gary | March 15, 2010, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Real life scenerio, My Daughter fell in her School Yard, hit her privates on the Monkey Bars. My wife and I rushed over picked her up and took her to an emergency room because there was some bleeding! We were told to sit down because the emergency room was FULL of people waiting to be seen Most Probably without any Healthcare looking for Medical Attention! after waiting 10 HOURS! My 9 year old daughter said she was feeling better so se decided to leave. after letting the people in the Emergency room know they said, sure no problem there’d be a nominal charge.. a week Later we recieved a Bill for $400.00 Dollars! She had not even been seen! and you Republican Weasels wonder why we need health care Reform?
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
“”"”THEN why are they BLOCKING passage of the bill??”"”"”
Posted by New Wave
Funny stuff. First, the Dems needed 60 votes and couldn’t get them, but the GOP was “blocking” with only 40 votes. Now, the Dems only need 51 votes, yet again the GOP is somehow “blocking” them with only 40 voters. When the Dems realize what many American people think of their backroom deals and bribes, they will have destroyed their party. Obama’s main problem is Pelosi and Reid and their tactics.
Posted by: lfrichar | March 15, 2010, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
The Healthcare system has become corrupt and Greed is unreal.. Government Programs are being abused to the point of failure by Medical Professionals who know how to work the system.. Insurance Companies, Crooked Hospitals charging $50.00 for an Asparin.. etc.. it’s unreal.. and most of these Companies are run by Republican Supporint CEO’s…
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
Deanbob
Unemployment was never 1.8% at any point in US history, let alone during the Harding/Coolidge years.
A majority of Dems did indeed vote against the Iraq War, you can look it up yourself. Of course you won’t look it up, but that’s your problem not mine.
Posted by: gary | March 15, 2010, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
“”"”a week Later we recieved a Bill for $400.00 Dollars! She had not even been seen! “”"”
Posted by: MajorityRule
While it sickens me to respond to such a partisan jerk, I will. The ER charged you $400 for nothing? How’s THIS BILL going to solve a problem like that. BTW, If you can’t answer this question, no need for partisan rant responses.
Posted by: lfrichar | March 15, 2010, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
If this is so bad tell us all why Obamas Numbers have risen since his position that we (Democrats and Liberals) Would tackle this Health Care Reform on our own.. Without the Republicans who we all know now would never support anything Obama is championing? The Bill will Pass and it will bear fruit and Republicans will be screwed for not having supported it… Time will Tell…
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
The Emergency Room charged us for processing the paperwork and taking my daughters temperature.. took all of 10 Minutes.. Then we waited for 10 hours! until we left because my Daughter and 5 year old son were getting hungry.. It’s nothing but GREEEDDDDDD! and CORRUPTION!
Posted by: MajorityRule | March 15, 2010, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
MajorityRule
Lincoln may well have turned over in his grave, and yes, Christians are sinners in need of grace, mercy and forgiveness every single day. But that doesn’t excuse your comments that characterize all Dems as good and all Repubs as evil. You should be ashamed that your remarks are the most insensitive and biggeted on this page. If you really view republican right wingers as so depraved and lowly, maybe you should not stoop to their levels and use insensitive and depraved remarks to make your point.
Posted by: wayneruff | March 15, 2010, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
THE BILL WILL PASS.
It is inevitable.
We the patriotic and compassionate Americans like the Bill.
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AARP Bulletin 3/10
From Kaiser Family Foundation, Jan., 2010. Survey of American Citizens:
Give tax credits to small businesses to cover employees (73% approval)
Create health insurance exchanges to help people get coverage (67% approve).
Leave most people’s existing coverage unchanged (66% approve).
Prohibit insurers from denying coverage or charging more for people with pre-existing conditions (63% approve).
Expand Medicaid to cover more low-income people (62% approve).
Allow children coverage under parents’ insurance until age 26 (60% approve).
Help close the Medicare Part D donut hole (60% approve).
Etc., etc., etc…..
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If the Repubs want to campaign against these numbers come November, let me borrow from George Bush and say BRING IT ON.
The Repubs are running scared because they know that once this Bill passes the Dems are guaranteed to win in November.
If it were really a Kamikaze mission as the Repubs claim don’t you think they will be cheering the Dems on to their defeat?
If it were that bad for the Dems the Repubs would not be fightiong it.
I think the Repubs believe we are all dumb.
Steve_NJ.
Posted by: Steve_NJ | March 15, 2010, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
New Wave So you have found a way to link the Reid family accident to the healthcare bill?++++BO has already linked an individual with cancer to the wefare insurance bill. Are you ok with that?
Posted by: Boxcar | March 15, 2010, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
new wave and najority rules…obamas numbers have risen?they are at an all time low of 46% get real. i not gonna follow this amateur clown off a cliff.
Posted by: catman | March 15, 2010, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
What good will any of this do us if we wont have a country that can pay its BILL’s and the US dollar is worthless?
USA, UK MOVE CLOSER TO LOSING AAA
You people that are for this crazy health care are selfish and self centered. You dont think of the future of America. You should move to Canada and live the dole there.
Do I want health care reforms yes. Do I want a take over like this? NO this is the wrong bill with the wrong focus.
Posted by: ChicagoBob | March 15, 2010, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Many here are missing the main problem. That is: We can’t continue on the road we are on much longer. Costs are out of control, why do all the repub’s ignor this fact??? Time for an up or down vote. If it fails let those who think pre-existing conditions should not be covered suffer the consequences in November.
Posted by: pt | March 15, 2010, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
It’s very simple. If the GOP believes that the bill will be bad for DEMs, they should let is pass without delay.
Don’t they believe their own words?
Posted by: New Wave | March 15, 2010, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
New Wave=== I only stated what was in the local Obama Newspaper and abc, cbs, cnn, cspan, nbc and others who said he was not staying with his family so go after them.
I never said if i was left or right. You assumed left which makes you a prime example of why this nation is hurting. You assume and stop there for your information. You do not look for more so you can find the truth. Left, right it does not matter. Reid, Obama and Pelosi are no good for this country. Maybe Hugo could use some new PR people
Posted by: Jim Rod | March 15, 2010, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Posted by: pt | Mar 15, 2010 1:58:39 PM
So then you are saying that any bill by put forward by the goverment is better than what we have now?
CBOs last score on the Senate bill states that in 2016 all people with individual policies will see a 10-13% increase in premiums(after the subsidies) above the natural increase in year to year premiums. People with group coverage/employeer provided coverage will see between a zero change in the increase to a +3% increase over the normal increase in premiums.
Bending the cost curve up.
Additionally around 13 million people will be pushed into state Medicaid programs accross the country, which many governers say will near bankrupt their state budgets.
Lastly the Senate, nor the house bill for that matter, doesn’t deal with the issue of availablity of care. We have a finite number of Doctors, Nurses and other health care professionals. Giving 30 million more people insurance coverage doesn’t change the fact that if you cannot see a doctor now you still have to go to the emergency room for any care you need.
Infact since about 50% of doctors will not see Medicaid patients because of the low reiumbursement rates, a number of people may lose their access to a physician.
Healthcare reform is necessary, but this proposal doesn’t impove cost containment, availability of care and accessability of continuing treatment.
This bill is just about centralizing the oversight of healthcare in the central government and getting more people health insurance.
Posted by: bobtherepublican | March 15, 2010, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Posted by: pt | Mar 15, 2010 1:58:39 PM
So then you are saying that any bill by put forward by the goverment is better than what we have now?
CBOs last score on the Senate bill states that in 2016 all people with individual policies will see a 10-13% increase in premiums(after the subsidies) above the natural increase in year to year premiums. People with group coverage/employeer provided coverage will see between a zero change in the increase to a +3% increase over the normal increase in premiums.
Bending the cost curve up.
Additionally around 13 million people will be pushed into state Medicaid programs accross the country, which many governers say will near bankrupt their state budgets.
Lastly the Senate, nor the house bill for that matter, doesn’t deal with the issue of availablity of care. We have a finite number of Doctors, Nurses and other health care professionals. Giving 30 million more people insurance coverage doesn’t change the fact that if you cannot see a doctor now you still have to go to the emergency room for any care you need.
Infact since about 50% of doctors will not see Medicaid patients because of the low reiumbursement rates, a number of people may lose their access to a physician.
Healthcare reform is necessary, but this proposal doesn’t impove cost containment, availability of care and accessability of continuing treatment.
This bill is just about centralizing the oversight of healthcare in the central government and getting more people health insurance.
Posted by: bobtherepublican | March 15, 2010, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
I pay for my own healthcare here in Pennsylvania. I have a Blue Cross plan. If I lived in Massachusetts I would have to pay almost 150% more each month. And since Massachusetts is the closest thing to ObamaCare there is I know I don’t want this government takeover. And where in the constitution does it say not only can the government mandate I have insurance coverage but I must have coverage that meets their required minimum standards. Why can’t I have a deductible larger than they approve of if I can afford the larger deductible. Next they’ll be saying you have to buy a house that costs at least $300,000 and if you home isn’t worth that you have to pay a fine.
Posted by: ObamaDisaster | March 15, 2010, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
bobtherepublican —- Great post!
Posted by: lfrichar | March 15, 2010, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
MajorityRule== France has always cut and run. Except for the revelotionary war. They stayed and helped us because England did not have sufficient military power here so they felt they had a chance. France always cuts and run. Bad example man. Just bad.
Posted by: Jim Rod | March 15, 2010, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
I voted for Pres. Obama. I want Health Care Refomr. Mr. President please stop trying to obtain bipartisanship with the Party of No. They don’t want America to succeed, the GOP want America to fail. Let’s go with the plan. The Tea Party is just another arm of the GOP. Don’t work with them either.
Posted by: Brandon | March 15, 2010, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
“President Barack Obama appears ready to reverse his position and allow unpopular deal-sweetening measures in the hopes of finding Democratic support for legislation…”
Is there no bottom to the depth of of selling out Progressives wont go to.? I’d be a total idiot to believe the Republicans are to blame for this “crap sandwich” not passing.
Posted by: keys2truth | March 15, 2010, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
A Tiny Peek at The Government’s Slippery Slope:
1. Census: Sure the questions are unconstitutional, but there’s only ten of them.
2. Patriot Act: We don’t listen to your conversations, just for certain words and phrases.
3. Global Warming: If it seems warmer then man must have caused it, what does science have to do with anything?
4. Cap and trade: We don’t care about the fact against manmade global warming, this bill will only cost you 50 cents per day.
5. Obamacare: So you don’t want it, just cowboy up and live with it it will only add to the debt, increase your insurance premiums, ration your healthcare and we added ten pages of doublespeak to try to convince you that funding for abortion will be hidden.
6. PayGo: It sounds good, but unfunded liabilities of the US government are more than double the net worth of the US and we just have to keep spending after all that’s what we do.
Posted by: Ed Taylor | March 15, 2010, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
While having complained that WH is a boring place and DC drove people crazy, Obama appears to be doing his most enjoyable task of making campaign speech all over the country, this time, with the pretense that he is NOT a part of Washington DC establishment. Who believe him ?
Posted by: austin | March 15, 2010, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Majority Rule is plain CRAZY.
Posted by: Misha | March 15, 2010, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
I want healthcare reform so my children and grandchildren will not be refused care because of pre-existing conditions, dropped when they need it the most and cannot change jobs or move state to state. I am watching this happen to my family right now and I want it to STOP.
It is time to get started and stop wasting more time and money. The insurance companies will continue to laugh all the way to the bank if we don’t make a change now.
Posted by: Gail Lehmann | March 15, 2010, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm