By Matt Loffman

Mar 3, 2010 1:59pm

Whip Count (No. 1 in a series): Arcuri From Yes to No?

The Observer-Dispatch reports that Rep. Michael Arcuri, D-NY, who voted yes for the House legislation last November, is inclined to vote no this time.

Though the House legislation was in many ways larger and more comprehensive, Arcuri says he doesn’t like the idea of a “mega bill,” and would prefer it be broken into pieces and passed step by step, he told the newspaper. He isn’t comfortable with the likelihood that the fixes to the Senate bill will be passed in the Senate using reconciliation rules, requiring only 51 votes as opposed to 60. And he doesn’t like those fixes – a tax on high-cost health insurance policies, for instance.

“There would have to be some dramatic changes in it for me to change my position,” Arcuri said.

As we’ve previously covered, 220 members of Congress voted for the bill when House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., brought the House legislation to a vote.

Since then, four yes votes are no more: Rep. Anh “Joseph” Cao, R-Louisiana, has said he won’t vote for final passage, Rep. Neil Abercrombie, D-Hi., retired to run for governor, Rep. Robert Wexler, D-Fla., also retired, and Rep. John Murtha, D-Penn., died.

That means to pass the Senate bill, Pelosi starts out with 216 members of Congress who votes yes last time. With the pending retirement of Rep. Nathan Deal, R-Ga., there will soon be only 431 Members of Congress total, meaning a majority will be 216 votes.

Arcuri would bring them down to 215.

-jpt

User Comments

A house of cards.

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | March 3, 2010, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

“And he doesn’t like those fixes – a tax on high-cost health insurance policies, for instance.”
Jake, this makes it sound like the fix is a tax on health plans. That isn’t the fix, thats the Senate bill as it stands. The fix is supposed to eliminate that tax.
Arcuri is uncomfortable with reconciliation because he doesn’t want to have to vote to approve the Senate bill BEFORE the fixes are done.
He would rather have the bills go through the usual conference procedure I imagine.
One alternative he might like is if the Democrats decided to use the nuclear option instead of reconciliation. That would allow the Senate to pass the House bill with a majority vote.

Posted by: Flash Override | March 3, 2010, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

OBAMA FLASHBACK: DEMS SHOULD NOT PASS HEALTCARE WITH 50-PLUS-1…
‘WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A 60% MAJORITY IN SENATE AND HOUSE TO GET A BILL TO MY DESK’…
OBAMA VS AMERICA

Posted by: another crisis-another photo op | March 3, 2010, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

Hurrah for the Congressman from New York, and thank you, Jake, for starting this new “Whip Count”.
Meanwhile, ObaMobsters like Mr. Override continue to fussy-butt the mind-numbing details, ignoring the Devil that is the bill itself.
It is a terrible bill! It is broken! In the immortal words of Warren Buffett, it does not address the one thing our sterling health care system needs, which is to control “Costs, Costs, Costs”.
Kill the Bill. Start all over fresh and create a 21st Century design (flexible and empowering, like an Iphone) instead of this old-guard, government-centric bureaucra-beast.
I pray every Congressman looks afresh at the big picture of this bill — the fraud financing & the usurpation –, sees that we deserve and can create much better real reform, and has the courage to vote “NO”.

Posted by: Carol | March 3, 2010, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

Posted by: Carol | Mar 3, 2010 2:56:23 PM
Warren Buffet also said he would vote in favor of the senate bill versus the maintaining the status quo, as all sensible folks know the status quo is unsustainable.
What he failed to mention is that Republicans have never been accused of being sensible.

Posted by: There is no Planet B | March 3, 2010, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

“Warren Buffet also said he would vote in favor of the senate bill versus the maintaining the status quo, as all sensible folks know the status quo is unsustainable.”
Uh, I read that interview. Buffet also recommended scrapping the current bill and starting over.

Posted by: Joe | March 3, 2010, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Republicans unreasonable? Don’t be laying that on us! Until very recently the Democrats had their 60 vote super majority in the senate. It was Democrats in the house who would not pass the senate bill and Democrats in the senate who would not pass the house bill, and Democrats in both who could not find a way to compromise.

Posted by: TxDan | March 3, 2010, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Buffet also recommended scrapping the current bill and starting over.
Posted by: Joe | Mar 3, 2010 4:24:45 PM
Yes to address cost as Carol said.
But he also said he’d vote for the senate bill versus the status quo, and the problem for many of us is a trust deficit when it comes to the GOP. We believe given their open strategy of deny, derail and make reform Obama’s waterloo, that the choice is the senate bill or the status quo, which is unsustainable.

Posted by: progressive mama | March 3, 2010, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

Kathy Dahlkemper in PA-3 is also telling us here in NW PA that without the Stupak language she is also a no.

Posted by: DocinPA | March 3, 2010, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Show me one of these tea partiers (the kind of people who invariably clog up the comments sections of newspaper websites, in an attempt to intimidate the kind of idiots who respect quantity over quality) who is capable of bringing out anything but talking points.
Get me one single anti-reform hater who would be capable of squaring off against, say, Ezra Klein or one of the pro-bill democrats on an intellectual level.
You will not succeed. You will only get sanctimonious, hectoring, self-righteous or religiously anti-democrat talking points from these people.
Which is why I support the bill – not so much because it is the best bill ever, but because the insane outweighs the reasonable when I look at the opposition to the bill.
“Government takeover” this, “death panels” that, CAPS LOCK everywhere and moronic portmanteaus. Rejecting that kind of inanity isn’t “elitism”, it’s *meritocracy*.
Most of the anti-bill zealots are about as persuasive as the “Bushitler” crowd who had hated on Bush since 2000 and tried to depict the invasion of Iraq as some sort of Fourth Reich nightmare.
Just grow up. The proponents of the bill have made a good case for its concept, its design resembles the republican offers from 1994 and much of the opposition cannot be seen to be in good faith. The democrats love their country as much as you do.

Posted by: Axel Edgren | March 3, 2010, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

To the previous commenter:
If you don’t think the left engages in the type of behavior you in which the claim the Tea Partiers engage and if you don’t believe the left trots out the same old talking points about this bill then I can only tell you one thing: get out of your cave. As for debating Ezra Klein, of course the average person on the street doesn’t know as much about the minutiae as a guy whose job it is to know the stuff backwards and forwards. But there are plenty of conservative policy analysts who have destroyed Klein’s arguments. And including Klein on a list of people who reasonably discuss these bills is a bit of a stretch as he has, on several occassions, claimed that those opposed to the Obamacare bill are complicitious in mass deaths of those without insurance. He has been hammered for it several times. And that is par for the course on the left. If I had a nickel for every ridiculous left winger who claimed that opposing this bill is the same as killing “45,000 people a year” or that every day this bill was delayed, the Republicans are responsible for another 123 deaths, I would have enough money to make Bill Gates look like a Depression-era hobo. From the very beginning those on the left had attempted to claim that dissent is tantamount to murder. Alay Grayson is the perfect example of such hate-fllled rhetoric. Not surprisingly, he is a hero to the very left you claim is not engaged in this type of “insane” rhetoric. Baloney. Visit any prominent left-wing website, such as The Daily Kos and you will see nothing but hate for its political opponents. Claims that this type of behavior have been largely restricted to the opponents of the bill during this debate are so ludicrous, it makes it impossible to take anything you write seriously.

Posted by: Obama is Carter | March 3, 2010, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

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