Whip Count (No. 10 in a Series) Lipinski and Oberstar to Vote No Without Stupak Abortion Language

Hey, let’s just get Rahm “The F-Bomb” Emanuel and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer to set up a few more of these Democrats who voted NO on ObamaCare–and force them out of the House on false charges. It worked against Congressman Eric Massa from NY.
Hey, effective Community Organizing means breaking a few eggs. Gibbs said they’ll do “whatever it takes to get healthcare done.” He really meant it.

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin — who has gone to great lengths to hype the supposed dangers of a big government takeover of American health care — admitted over the weekend that she used to get her treatment in Canada’s single-payer system.
she must be a socialist…according to her logic

Nowadays all the wealthy Canadians come to the U.S. for care.
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Wealthy being the key word. Wealthy Americans get great care here too. As everybody knows, that’s not the problem. Never has been.
Meanwhile, medical tourism is up. That’s Americans going elsewhere for affordable health care.
Jonathan Chait writes, “What separates the two parties is not how far to go, but in which direction to go. The divide is simple. Democrats propose to shift resources from the rich and the healthy to the poor and the sick. Republicans want to do just the opposite. Republican health care plans reflect the party’s increasingly widespread belief that good health, like other forms of prosperity, is a matter of personal responsibility….The common element of all the Republican plans is to do the opposite-to separate the healthy from the sick….Republicans boast that the CBO says their plan would reduce insurance premiums. This is true. The CBO predicted this would happen because the GOP plan would reduce premiums for healthy people, bringing more of them into the insurance pool, and raise premiums for sicker people, driving more of them out.” (Sink or swim, The GOP’s Dickensian fix for health care, TNR)

“That’s Americans going elsewhere for affordable health care.”
Posted by: progressive mama | Mar 8, 2010 1:18:42 PM
Prove it.

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin — who has gone to great lengths to hype the supposed dangers of a big government takeover of American health care — admitted over the weekend that she used to get her treatment in Canada’s single-payer system.
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Why would she and her family as Americans go to Canada for health care treatment?

Prove it.
Posted by: HealthCare Redistribution Czar | Mar 8, 2010 1:22:24 PM
See Medical tourism: ’5-star’ care at a discount, SFGate,
Lower costs lure U.S. patients abroad for treatment, CNN.
Medical and surgical tourism:
The new world of health care globalization and what it means for the practicing surgeon, Nora Institute
Medical Tourism: Update and Implications – 2009 Report, Deloitte
Center for Medical Tourism Research
Advice to Medical Tourists, Dr. Rich’s blog: “Medical tourism, where one travels outside one’s country in order to obtain medical care elsewhere, is a booming business. A number of supurb state-of-the-art medical centers expressly aimed at attracting medical tourists have been established in the Middle East, Singapore, India, China and elsewhere in Asia. These institutions cater to citizens of the world whose own healthcare systems cannot (or will not) provide in a timely fashion (or at all) the level of care patients may desire. They offer modern hospitals, numerous amenities, luxurious accomodations, attentive nursing care, top-notch doctors – and they do it all for a tiny fraction of what the same care might cost (if you can even find it) in the U.S. and other “first world” nations.”
And “WellPoint Introduces International Medical Tourism Pilot Program”

Why would she and her family as Americans go to Canada for health care treatment?
Posted by: tierra | Mar 8, 2010 1:31:40 PM
I’m chuckling that she refers to it as “ironic.” Yes, Sarah… and that’s not the only thing ironic about many of your positions and much of your posturing.

“More and more Americans are looking across the border and overseas to get their medicine. Jeff Schult, author of “Beauty from Afar,” a guide to medical tourism, estimates that more than 100,000 Americans a year travel beyond the boarder for cosmetic procedures alone.
In 2005, for example, Bumrungrad Hospital in Thailand served more than 50,000 American patients, a 30 percent increase from the previous year. Thailand is just one of the countries where foreign patients have flocked. India, Brazil, Costa Rica and Mexico all market themselves as medical destinations, according to Schult. ”
Posted by: progresive mama | Mar 8, 2010 2:12:39 PM
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I’ll thank you for the info in your last posts . .. since the Republican right seem to be unaware of what’s going on . . . and probably not all that thankful you’re providing the facts.

Talk about the “sausage making” involved in passing this HC bill!!!..WOW..Eric Massa pulled the scab off one ugly mess today!! More disturbing than his allegations against the administration’s hench men..is ABC ignoring his comments…can you imagine if a republican went public with allegations like this??

“Congressman Lipinski will not vote for a health care bill that provides federal funding for abortion,”
I think your count is a bit screwy, since the Senate bill does not in fact provide federal funding for abortion, this statement is not a statement against the Senate bill.

obi—your comment is factually incorrect. The Senate Bill is very specific about situations under which Federal Funding for infanticide will not be provided. Outside of those narrow areas, the bill appears to me to be silent.
It is not hard to reach a desired end without going out of your way to throw mud in the faces of those with whom you disagree. Those that pat themselves on the back under the delusion that they are forward thinkers might learn a lesson from the defeat many hope they suffer.

You shouldn’t have gone there! Where did Palin go as an adult? Do you even have any idea?
Alaskan Native Medical Center?
Yes
Indian Health Services?
Yes
Oh man! Palin seems to have a thing for socialized medicine for herself, but doesn’t want anyone else to be able to have the choice. Typical Republican hypocrite.
Posted by: Flash Override | Mar 8, 2010 5:28:53 PM
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