By Jonathan Blakely

Apr 21, 2010 6:03pm

Arizona Advances ‘Birther Bill’

ABC News’ Jonathan Blakely reports:

Lawmakers in Arizona are moving forward with a proposal that would force candidates to produce birth certificates to appear on the ballot in the 2012 election — a clear effort to challenge the citizenship of President Obama.

On Monday, the Arizona House of Representatives voted 31-22 to advance the bill, which would require an official review by Secretary of State Ken Bennett of candidates’ birth certificates before they can qualify to run for office on the ballot in Arizona.

The legislation is an outgrowth of the “birther movement” – those who question Obama’s origins and believe that he is not a natural-born U.S. citizen. Such conspiracy theories continue to exist, despite substantial verification of the President’s citizenship – including the publication of his birth certificate from then-candidate Obama’s ‘Fight the Smears’ webpage, and Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, Chiyome Fukino, issuing a statement confirming the authenticity of Obama’s birth certificate.

Democratic state Rep. Kyrsten Sinema of Phoenix said that the bill, along with other controversial pieces of legislation from Arizona, are making the state “the laughingstock of the nation,” the AP reports.

Some supporters of the legislation, such as state Rep. Cecil Ash, favor the bill not because of any doubt of the President’s citizenship, but because the measure would put an end to all the speculation, the AP also reports.

The bill still needs approval by the full state House, plus the state Senate. And Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett has said that it may violate the US Constitution, since it involves the state making requirements for a federal election.

User Comments

how embarassing to be from arizona…

Posted by: trueblue | April 21, 2010, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

He needs to show his Indonesian Barry Soetero paper once and for call.

Posted by: John | April 21, 2010, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm

Someone needs to tell Barney Fife and the rest of the one bullet legislators in Arizona that States will never supercede the Feds.
This is simply yet another elephant and pony show, courtesy of the Great White Nopes.
THIS BILL IS ABOUT AS EFFECTIVE AS SHOOTING A BB GUN AT A FREIGHT TRAIN MOVING AT 70 MILES PER HOUR……tick!

Posted by: Common Sense | April 21, 2010, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm

Time to threaten AZ again with the loss of future Super Bowls, BCS Championship Games etc. as a reminder to constrain their racist tendencies.

Posted by: factsareproblematic | April 21, 2010, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

gO az,
THIS IS AN HEROIC group of Congressmen. Barack should be worried. He was born in Indonesia, not in the U.S., and he is, therefore, not eligible to be President. These morons who say he is a citizen are missing the point. He is a citizen. But, he is not a natural born citizen. The U.S. Const. requires that a U.S. President be born in the U.S. of one of its territories. Obama was not, and he should resign becasue he cannot cover this up forever. he may as well finally admit it.

Posted by: headhoncho | April 21, 2010, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

I will reserve judgement until I have examined all the evidence.

Posted by: Matt Erkert | April 21, 2010, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

Interesting that conservatives consistently invent ways in which President Obama is supposedly pushing “unconstitutional” legislation yet it is they who are peddling unlawful measures. This is petty politicking by folks pandering to their basest elements in the GOP…

Posted by: matt | April 21, 2010, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

LOL…. Wow! The entire state of Arizona is composed of “Birthers”!… amazing… LOL

Posted by: GeorgieBushie | April 21, 2010, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

LOL! They just don’t know when to give up. One more time… birthers, think logically (and dirty)… don’t you know that IF there were indeed something to be found that Hillary Clinton would have used it? …and had it escaped Hillary (which it wouldn’t have), Mr. McCain ..and definitely the GOP would have found it AND USED it to 100% maximum effect?

Posted by: Mytakeonthis61 | April 21, 2010, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

When the truth about Obama’s foreign birth comes out and eventually it will, how many of the posters will sound like Juliet Huddy of the Faux News on the WMD lies, whining like little girls “we were fooled, we were lied too”. The birth certificate Obama showed on fightthesmears.com was laser printed, any laser printers in the 1960s? What hospital was he born in can’t produce a record either. His grandmother made an oral declaration to the Bureau of Vital Statistics and put newspaper announcements of the birth that he was born in Hawaii. Doesn’t mean he was born here.

Posted by: john kesrouan | April 21, 2010, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

trueblue, I can’t believe you are dumb enough to really believe that. Obama’s birth certificate is hardly classified, you can write to Hawaii’s vital records department and request a certified copy for yourself. They were considering enacting legislation to charge people for multiple requests because they are using so many man hours filling the requests – many of them from the same handful of people. The complete lack of sense or willingness to research facts that so many people possess is astonishing. No matter how many times I see utter nonsense put out there I am still surprised.

Posted by: Rebecca | April 21, 2010, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

Also, McCain was born on a military base to American parents. How many kids do you think are born overseas on military bases every year? Try telling their soldier/sailor/airmen parents that their kids aren’t really American. Please, for the love of God, go do some research on the law before you spout off again.

Posted by: Rebecca | April 21, 2010, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

Not even Beck or O’Reilly buys the “Birthers” argument. Talk about being on the fringe. I’d be embarresed if I was from AZ.

Posted by: Jim Bob | April 21, 2010, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm

O-kay… john kesrouan, … I’ll bite but I have a question for you. What would you say if it were proven with 100% and without a doubt (of which it already has been) that the President’s birth certificate is indeed legitimate? How would YOU respond?

Posted by: Mytakeonthis61 | April 21, 2010, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm

The whole “Obama signed an executive order making his birth certificate classified” thing is idiocy. The executive order he signed was talking about classified information in general, and the section you nuts took as indicating he was “hiding his birth certificate” actually talked about the handling by the National Archives of the release of Presidential records. Anyone with a grain of sense would realize that Presidential records is only referring to documents that were created DURING THE PRESIDENCY. Not everything from the president’s birth on. The actual definition from the National Archives is thus:
The term “Presidential records” means documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, created or received by the President, his immediate staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the President whose function is to advise and assist the President, in the course of conducting activities which relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties of the President.
Those are the FACTS. Twist them as you please (not that you need my invitation).

Posted by: Rebecca | April 21, 2010, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

I wonder where the tea partiers are? Isnt this a waste of taxpayer money?? I wonder if they are asking to see John McCain’s birthcertificate too? I think by 1961 Hawaii had become a state. President Obama’s certificate is just as valid as the one anyone gets from the county office of their birth. No one ever gets the original, anytime you or I request a verified copy, it is just that “a copy”. Some people are just nuts..

Posted by: Joe | April 21, 2010, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm

How many ways do people need to have it explained to them. Hawaii is a U.S. state since 1959. So whether it was the day after, a year after, or a decade after the admission of hawaii, it is valid. Don’t you think that that and your age are the first two things someone checks when someone registers to run for office. Hmm, no one brought this up in the heated battle between President Obama and Sec. of State Clinton. I sure think if it were a valid argument, Hillary would have seen the light to use it. But I guess she rather lose the race and settle for Sec of State.

Posted by: Joe | April 21, 2010, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

Wait a minute? How could Palin run as V.P. I mean I never saw her birth certificate, and Alaska is the 49th state, hmm and very close to Russia… Hmm. I wonder how old that lady really is under all that makeup. I wonder if she is hiding her Russian communist roots with her very outspoken behavior..HAHAHHA. Can anyone from Arizona see how silly things can seem, once you start spinning and twisting for anything that may stick..haha

Posted by: Joe | April 21, 2010, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm

BW HAHAHAHAHAHA…
Is Arizona trying to make the GOP a national laughingstock at this point?

Posted by: jhw539 | April 21, 2010, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm

It’s ridiculous. He’s shown his birth certificate -he showed provided it in 2008. AND one would have to be crazy enough to believe that his birth announcement was ‘planted’ in the Honolulu paper 40+ years ago, from Kenya, just in the chance that he wanted to run for president someday. These people are delusional..
From FactCheck.org “We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.”

Posted by: Trisha | April 21, 2010, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

“McCain showed his records, and Obama signed an executive order classifying his… One has to wonder what the hell for? ” From
Please provide some source for this. This is untrue.

Posted by: Trisha | April 21, 2010, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

I really am beginning to question what the average IQ is in this nation. It’s like there is some epidemic of stupid people.

Posted by: secondlook | April 21, 2010, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

Congress was to have made this inquiry, they did not do it because obama is a democrat and in their eagerness to take control of government they violated the constitution by not confirming whether or not obama was/is qualified.
REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER
to vote out all encumbants on both sides of the isle and vote for constitutional conservitives because if you believe the lies of the encumbants and vote them back in, it will be business as usual, and that ain’t gonna be good.

Posted by: Me | April 21, 2010, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

This is hilarious, the state where John McCain, who was born on Panamanian soil hails from. Must have gotten a little too much sun down there, heads are clearly starting to bake.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | April 21, 2010, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

Folks, a certificate of birth is not a birth certificate.

Posted by: Me | April 21, 2010, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

They are a laughing stock. The State of Hawaii has verified the authenticity of one of their own birth certificates, but Ken Bennett of Arizona is really the only one qualified to determine its legitimacy? I think they need to pass a law that IQ tests are required before anyone in that state is allowed to vote.

Posted by: Morons | April 21, 2010, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

Whether born there or not, let’s pay for a one way ticket to Kenya for him and his whole crew.

Posted by: Greg Buls | April 21, 2010, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

If anyone checked the history records of past presidents, they were not all born of this country. Being born in this country should not be an issue right now… “Living” in the country a president is going to “lead” should be made into law.
On the other hand, If lawmakers in Arizona would like to make this new law, I think it seems sensible and logical enough to acknowledge that one who runs a country, should be from that country. I do not like the idea that Ahmadinejad (to name just one) could possibly come over here and run for president…

Posted by: Edd | April 22, 2010, 12:10 am 12:10 am

common sense —- you said “States will never supercede the Feds.” —- Excuse me, bu theres this little document called the Constitution that says just the opposite!!!!!

Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | April 22, 2010, 12:21 am 12:21 am

I still would like to know how he got a college grant as a foreign student?
Why are you guys so afraid of his birth certificate? Why isn’t it prudent to require a birth certificate to run for president, especially when the constitution requires the age restriction. It would end the arguing. Is that so bad?

Posted by: kennedy | April 22, 2010, 12:22 am 12:22 am

Eddd —- You can always organize a movement to “amend” the Constitution, but until then…. you have to live with it!!!! (Not that Obama isn’t trying to thwart it!!)

Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | April 22, 2010, 12:24 am 12:24 am

If two or three major states required documention to be on their ballet then it would be interesting to see if he ran for a second term. This is not a state requirement….it is constitutional. The states would be mandating the federal requirement.

Posted by: kennedy | April 22, 2010, 12:26 am 12:26 am

You said “The State of Hawaii has verified the authenticity of one of their own birth certificates” —– Fine, show the people!!! — I am NOT a birther, I believe he was born in the US, but all the secrecy and “unreleased” records of birth, college, law degree, why he lost his law license….. kind of makes you wonder, huh??

Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | April 22, 2010, 12:30 am 12:30 am

The author has crafted about the Arizona bill.

Posted by: India Travel | April 22, 2010, 12:34 am 12:34 am

You know, Hawaii has a Republican Governor who appointed the Director of Health who along with the Governor examined the birth certificate and stated he was born in Hawaii. So where is the conspiracy. LOL

Posted by: Honolulu | April 22, 2010, 12:34 am 12:34 am

Even crackpots deserve to have a state they can call their own.

Posted by: Dave | April 22, 2010, 12:40 am 12:40 am

*****************
Talk about wasting taxpayers money! .How much
of the taxpayer funds was invested in your
education? I demand a refund!!!

Posted by: spacerook1 | April 22, 2010, 12:42 am 12:42 am

How can one be the President of America and not be vetted? It still baffles me at the illogic and myopia of the people. The level of ignorance in our country called America is astonishing. We have lots of functional illiterates in our midst.

Posted by: T | April 22, 2010, 12:43 am 12:43 am

Given the financial crisis Arizona and the rest of the country is in, the elected officials make a mockery of how they spend our hard earned money to support this worthless “birther” cause. As a voting Arizonian I’ll make it a point to find out who votes in favor of this waste of time and tell as many voters I know how some politicians are spending our tax dollars.

Posted by: ben scaasi | April 22, 2010, 12:53 am 12:53 am

Not every Arizonan is in favor of this! I for one think this is a total waste of time and money.

Posted by: Telnof | April 22, 2010, 12:59 am 12:59 am

I was born in Hawaii, and 2 years ago i had to request a replacement copy of my birth Certificate. Guess what…it looks EXACTLY like the one that was produced. Now if that is a forgery, its up to the officials to determine that, or to try and find the ORIGINAL. For the poster who said that laser printers weren’t around in the 1960s, yes true. But a copy that is made is produced with a laser printer. A certified copy is just that…a COPY!

Posted by: Derek Ellis | April 22, 2010, 1:05 am 1:05 am

These ELECTED officials in Arizona are truly sad, and PATHETIC. Between the F.B.I, the CIA, SECRET SERVICE, HOMELAND SECURITY, US MARSHAL, and FOX NEWS, President Obama has got too be the CRAFTIEST document forger in the world. The Republicans are getting crazier by the hour. I’m beginning to believe they’re too UNFIT to hold office due to MENTAL DETERIORATION.

Posted by: andre007 | April 22, 2010, 1:09 am 1:09 am

I used to go to Arizona but that is a thing of the past. I wouldn’t spend a dime in that narrow minded state now.

Posted by: rob | April 22, 2010, 1:16 am 1:16 am

having moved to arizona from a more civilized state nothing surprises me. the citizens of arizona make the fictional characters in the movie deliverance look like liberals. since i put an obama bumper sticker on my car i’ve been threatened to be beat up or shot on six different occasions and once some old guy tried to hit me with his car. boycot arizona

Posted by: joe | April 22, 2010, 1:39 am 1:39 am

Sounds like Liberty in the pursuit of Extremism to me…

Posted by: JLS1950B | April 22, 2010, 1:40 am 1:40 am

Stupid Arizona but then again they keep re-electing John McCain.

Posted by: Doug | April 22, 2010, 1:44 am 1:44 am

In response to this silliness, I have formally commenced speculating that the entire state legislature in Arizona are pedophiles and I hereby demand that they furnish concrete proof that they are not. Assuming I start a website and convince a couple of knuckleheads to agree with me, the implication here is that Arizona’s legislature would then pass a law to affirm my ridiculous assertion and require concrete proof that each legislator is not a pedophile. Then again, rather than being a failed lawyer, I am a contribution member of society so maybe my speculation doesn’t carry the same weight.

Posted by: KobraKai | April 22, 2010, 1:56 am 1:56 am

Arizona citizens should be ashamed of their legislatures. I am so glad I am not an Arizonian, because then I would have to hide my head in shame at these supposedly sane elected officials. I must only hope that somehow all the heat exposure that the citizens have had has fried their brains.

Posted by: K. McClure | April 22, 2010, 2:09 am 2:09 am

Using the logic of these arguments. John McCain should not be a US Senator. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936. The Panama Canal was not a state or US territory. The Canal Zone was only leased land from Panama. IMPEACH JOHN McCAIN.

Posted by: JustTheFacts | April 22, 2010, 2:12 am 2:12 am

it really doesn’t matter where he was born; here is the part of the civil code that covers “natural born” citizenship. “Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”
* Anyone born inside the United States *
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
* There is an exception in the law — the person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.
Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.”
obama’s mother was a citizen born in kansas, who definitely lived on the us for more than five years. and that, boys and girls, is all that is required for anyone to qualify as a “natural born citizen.” that he was born is hawaii is a bonus, but not technically necessary.
now, can we just let this one go?

Posted by: justsane | April 22, 2010, 2:20 am 2:20 am

As someone who lives in AZ this is very embarrassing. Please don’t assume that everyone from AZ agrees with this.
This is really sad. AZ invests the least amount of funds in education of the entire US. Yet, tax dollars go to this? I hear everyday on the local news about the state budget crisis and resources are used on this ridiculous bill.
This plus the un-Constitutional AZ immigration reform bill just makes AZ look backwards to most of the US – that somehow if you’re not white, you can’t possibly be a US born citizen (or even a naturalized US citizen.)

Posted by: frank | April 22, 2010, 2:32 am 2:32 am

I live in AZ at present and I am embarrassed. Contemplating moving back to reality, Anytown, USA.

Posted by: chababba | April 22, 2010, 3:26 am 3:26 am

Obama WAS born in a US State, in Hawaii. His official birth certificate from Hawaii shows it, and the facts on it were confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii.

Posted by: ellenbarrons | April 22, 2010, 3:38 am 3:38 am

One more reason to know who to vote for in 2010 and 2012. Republicans are so stupid, it’s embarrassing!

Posted by: garcia | April 22, 2010, 3:43 am 3:43 am

Why just for president? Why not for every elected office in the state? Why are they not passing a law that requires John McCain present his birth certificate?

Posted by: Todd | April 22, 2010, 4:37 am 4:37 am

I guess factsareproblematic for factsareproblematic.

Posted by: Todd | April 22, 2010, 4:41 am 4:41 am

How amusing (and somewhat frightening) to know that the Arizona state government thinks this is a top priority.

Posted by: JaylahPriest | April 22, 2010, 4:54 am 4:54 am

Listen if Arizona are doing this to try and prevent from happening again the stupidity that followed the question of President Obama’s birth then ok. If they are doing it to carry it on and still question his birth then they are idiots. What more proof do they need? His birth certificate has been produced. Newspapers have even produced his birth notices. The most senior health official and co in Hawaii have verifed all documents as legitimate. etc etc. Heck even Bill O’Reilly says he was born in The USA. What more do they want? Talk about clutching at invisible straws and embarrassing yourself in the process.

Posted by: Sibeen | April 22, 2010, 5:05 am 5:05 am

I am SO pleased to see the posts here. This ‘birther bill’ is utter nonsense (and can not pass muster). What a waste of taxpayer money and a distraction to other much more meaningful and relevant issues. The nimrods who ‘furthered’ this bill need to be voted out of office.

Posted by: Relieved | April 22, 2010, 5:26 am 5:26 am

It has already been proven he was born at Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Hawaii.
If it was true heck we would need him to be President – I mean a bi-racial family that started scheming 40 plus years ago to gain the Presidency through subterfuge are the sort of committed geniuses you need running the country . I mean that is clever to the max.
Let me ask this question to the doubters – What PROOF do you have he was born elsewhere ?

Posted by: Sibeen | April 22, 2010, 5:29 am 5:29 am

Maybe next some senator can try to draft a bill saying they have to read the bills. Or heck, even better, do another outrageous amendment on the healthcare legislation saying they have to read the bills, knowing all amendments will be rejected and it’s all for illusion. Oh wait, they have already done all of this. DO SOME WORK IDIOTS. Knock off the CONSTANT smears.

Posted by: secondlook | April 22, 2010, 5:39 am 5:39 am

Finally, someone with some horse sense!!!

Posted by: hueygunner | April 22, 2010, 5:51 am 5:51 am

The ones who keep crap going in this country are the old white males and their old white wives, and their old white moms and dads. While I wish no one harm, this country will be far better off when their generation is dead and gone, along with their hate. Most of the younger ones have not bought into the crap their elders espouse, thank God!!! President Obama knows who he is and so do all of us. He needs to tell the birthers, tea partiers, and repubnuts to go straight to HELL! But, of course he won’t because he is much better than that. To the people of Arizona, you need to vote a large number of the crazies, like Cecil Ash, out of office, or you will all suffer the consequences of their misguided laws. The only thing those type of people understand is financial loss. If you make anything in Arizona, I won’t buy it. I won’t be spending money at your fishing sites. And, if you still get water from Colorado, I vote to cut you off. Your historical past with racism is the best predictor of your racist present. What you do to others, you do to yourself. Your stupid laws aimed at illegals and President Obama will come back to haunt you. You are an a cancer on America.

Posted by: Annette | April 22, 2010, 5:57 am 5:57 am

Show me the CarFax!
It’s very simple, show a copy of the ORIGINAL birth certificate. Just like John McCain did when folks questioned his right to run for president.

Posted by: hueygunner | April 22, 2010, 5:58 am 5:58 am

Enough already !!!

Posted by: hkdakota | April 22, 2010, 5:59 am 5:59 am

I requested a copy of my son’s birth certificate from Kentucky. I got a water-downed laser copy. It’s not a true copy by any stretch of the imagination.

Posted by: hueygunner | April 22, 2010, 6:01 am 6:01 am

Funny, Americans pay more attention to the hundred-dollar bills they receive for payment than the current president’s birth certificate.

Posted by: hueygunner | April 22, 2010, 6:04 am 6:04 am

Let me ask this question to the doubters – What PROOF do you have he was born elsewhere ?
Posted by: Sibeen | Apr 22, 2010 5:29:42 AM
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I find it odd that the state of Hawaii and the nation of Kenya both found it necessary to restrict access to any information about the birthplace of Barack Obama.

Posted by: hueygunner | April 22, 2010, 6:10 am 6:10 am

McCain was born in Panama..

Posted by: CHill | April 22, 2010, 6:11 am 6:11 am

And they probably still believe the Earth is actually flat and Elvis is still alive, too!

Posted by: CWA | April 22, 2010, 6:15 am 6:15 am

Antiques on the Antique Roadshow get more scrutiny than did Barack Obama’s “copy” of his birth certificate.
Post a true copy of Obama’s original birth certificate.

Posted by: hueygunner | April 22, 2010, 6:16 am 6:16 am

Obama has NOT revealed the long-form birth certificate which shows the hospital and doctor of delivery. WHY NOT? Just show it!

Posted by: Who dat | April 22, 2010, 6:18 am 6:18 am

Arizona STATE OF ILLEGALS? You have got to be kidding….Spend this time and money on the state lines between AZ and Mexico……or even mornings in front of Home Depot! Looks like a smoke screen Arizona!

Posted by: Duane | April 22, 2010, 6:18 am 6:18 am

Any candidate with the potential to become president must go through a very extensive background check. If Barack Obama is not eligible to be president…it is because the security of the Bush Administration failed again.

Posted by: Skip | April 22, 2010, 6:29 am 6:29 am

cop·y
   /ˈkɒpi/ Show Spelled [kop-ee] Show IPA noun, plural cop·ies, for 1, 2, 7, 9, verb, cop·ied, cop·y·ing.
–noun
1.
an imitation, reproduction, or transcript of an original: a copy of a famous painting.
———-
Just so you will know what a real copy is.

Posted by: hueygunner | April 22, 2010, 6:30 am 6:30 am

One thing we know now that wasn’t readily apparent before the internet – you can see the depth and breadth of Republican stupidity from coast to coast.

Posted by: ace | April 22, 2010, 6:44 am 6:44 am

I see nothing wrong with requiring proof of some of the basics to go along with being President of the United States. I had show the same kind of proof to get in the Military. There should be no problem here. Not even a debate. It’s a matter of a minimum amount of honesty one would hope to see coming from this office. Unless, you are trying to hide something that is.

Posted by: Jeff | April 22, 2010, 6:58 am 6:58 am

Dosen’t matter where the guy was born he is worse for this country than even carter was.

Posted by: wvason | April 22, 2010, 7:12 am 7:12 am

Somehow, behind all this stupidity, this has got to be some kind of money-making scam that’s taking advantage of these idiots.

Posted by: amstel | April 22, 2010, 7:13 am 7:13 am

Here’s what the Hawaii Department of Home Lands – the department charged with administering such programs – says on its website:
“In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the ORIGINAL Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer generated printout: OHSM 1.1 Rev 11/01 LASER ). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.”
Didn’t make that up. You can Google the entire quote and you will find it on the DHHL website.
If the State of Hawaii DOES NOT accept a computer printout, as proof that an individual was actually born in Hawaii, WHY SHOULD WE!

Posted by: hueygunner | April 22, 2010, 7:21 am 7:21 am

…and don’t forget to require all voters to have a PHOTO ID!!! —- The only people who disagree with this are those who promote voter fraud!!

Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | April 22, 2010, 7:55 am 7:55 am

And you wonder why the republicans party is the minority party. This have racist written all on it. Now that we have a black president, why not make sure any other minority running for president show their Birth Certificate. No white President have every had to do this so why NOW! RAICST IS MOTIVATIONS BEHIND THIS BILL!

Posted by: GL | April 22, 2010, 10:34 am 10:34 am

factsareproblematic – indeed they are and seem to escape you
you guys sully republican intellects and people begin to think there are none…
You might as well run of with Ms. Oily Taitz with another confirmed absolute proof of ?? where is it now they are claiming Obama was born? Can’t make up your minds if it was Kenya, Indonesia or Mars

Posted by: trueblue | April 22, 2010, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

I am embarassed to say that I live in Arizona and I think this is the “What’s Next?” of attacks on President Obama. Arizona is a Republican state and they think they can rule the world starting here with McCain as the leader. They are also suing Obama’s medical bill. This is as low as you can go but Arizona will go lower. Disgusting!

Posted by: S Johnson | April 22, 2010, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm

A strict reading of Arizona SB 1024 which references the Article II definition of “natural born citizen” and not The Immigration and Nationality Act, Title III, SEC. 305. [8 U.S.C. 1405] definition, would indicate that John McCain is not eligible to run for President in the state of Arizona due to his birth in Panama.

Posted by: Mike | April 23, 2010, 4:57 am 4:57 am

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