Apr 18, 2010 11:10am
Roundtable: Politics of Financial Regulation
The “This Week” roundtable took on the politics of financial regulation and the troubles at Goldman Sachs. On the Senate Minority Leader’s newfound tone, Bloomberg TV’s Al Hunt said “Mitch McConnell as an anti-Wall Street populist is about as credible as, what, John Edwards.”
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You know rather than discuss the “politics of Financial Regulation,” perhaps time would be better send talking about the aspects of the bill, breaking it down piece by piece for the American people to digest.
I mean first you all have a nice belly laugh about Mitch McConnell spewing Frank Luntz talking points, and then you had a debate on the truth to them?
McConnell is lying, and all of you knew it and yet you went forward and defended him and allowed a reporter from a newspaper that clearly favors a strong aristocracy at the expense of the working class, lie without any reverence to the truth.
Posted by: DFR | April 18, 2010, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
It would be really great if you could get Greenspan to debate someone like Peter Schiff. One was in the high seat of power, while the other was pleading for the correct action in using that power. Very interesting!
Posted by: William of Orange | April 18, 2010, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
It would be great if you could get Greenspan to debate someone like Peter Schiff. One was in the high seat of power, while the other was pleading for the correct action in using that power. Very interesting!
Posted by: William of Orange | April 18, 2010, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
About as credible as Obama’s outrage at the fatcats on Wall Street.
Fake outrage at those whose donations help put him in the WH, and those who are his golf buddies.
And who are Obama’s economic advisers?
Wall Street fatcats.
Posted by: kyle | April 18, 2010, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Capitalism does not work without allowing well run corporations to buy up failed institutions. It is one of the mechanisms to properly allocate capital. It rewards good ideas and behaviors and punishes the opposite. Instead, government bureaucrats will continue to decide winners and losers to the detriment of all.
Posted by: JJinCO | April 18, 2010, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
This finanicial “reform” bill does indeed have Wall Street’s fingerprints all over it as the Christian Science Monitor pointed out in 2009 and the Huffington Post pointed out in a 4/18/2010 article.
Even with the proposed $50 billion put up by banks themselves to bail out ailing institutions, this bill gives more power to the Federal Reserve and is a sell-out to Wall Street.
The articles (all below can be Googled) at Huffington Post entitled “Thomas Hoenig: Top Federal Official Says Financial Reform Favors Wall Street Over Main Street” and “Key Details Released On Dodd’s Financial Reform Bill” as well as the article from the Christian Science Monitor entitled “Wall Street’s Fingerprints Evident On Financial Reform Bill” all show that Wall Street likes this bill, that it has their fingerprints all over it, and that it will give even more power to the Federal Reserve.
First Obama sells out to Big Insurance & Big Pharma, as Jane Hamsher pointed out in her article at Huffington post “The Truth About The Health Care Bill” and now this!?
Posted by: Ray | April 18, 2010, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
“About as credible as Obama’s outrage at the fatcats on Wall Street.” So true. People keep losing their jobs and homes while wall street keeps marching on. What is wrong with that picture? How is that change working for all who voted for Obama?
Posted by: Lynn | April 18, 2010, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Mr. Obama’s “change thing” would be working out reasonably well if the corporate dupes, who lost the election, would debate reasonably, and not filibuster, obstruct, name call, spit, and yell, “Hell No.” Ya Betcha.
Posted by: B.Bear | April 18, 2010, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
I doubt Pres Obama has much idea about the needs for strong regulation. I continue to think he is just a device that repeats what he is told. However it is obvious to me that we have allowed Banks and pseudo banks to do all sorts of thing with no oversight and control. We really do need laws that control these folks and we need to enforce them. If Obama wants to stand up and look nice about it that is a small price to pay.
Posted by: Mac | April 18, 2010, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
If they do not regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,what good is it? This bill does nothing about being too big to fail. Just being against Wall Street does not change a thing. Wall Street did not cause the failure the intervention of the Government caused the problem by backing loans for mortgages that were given to people who coule not pay for a house.
Posted by: stormerF2 | April 18, 2010, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
DFR, how do we know McConnell is lying? Has the financial reform bill been publicly posted so everyone can see what it actually says? Or is this another “trust us” bill.
People would have to see the bill for themselves before they can judge who’s telling the truth about what’s in it.
Posted by: phalanx | April 18, 2010, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
DFR, how do we know McConnell is lying? Has the financial reform bill been publicly posted so everyone can see what it actually says?
phalanx | Apr 18, 2010 8:37:24 PM
YES, THE BILL IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. Of course it is expected to be changed and amended during floor debate (if the Republicans don’t filibuster that to get another chance to kill it in private committee meetings), but the bill McConnell is lying about is available for anyone to read.
The media should be ashamed for enabling this. They keep putting up McConnell’s Big Lie garbage without a peep. The bill is available; McConnell is lying.
Posted by: jhw539 | April 18, 2010, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Y2K, AGW, Volcanic Ash: Overrated, overstated, a lot like Obamacare…
Posted by: Quo Warranto | April 19, 2010, 1:32 am 1:32 am
This bill would institute tough financial regulations except for when the regulators appointed by Democrats could make all exceptions they chose to make.
And it institutionalize “too big to fail” forever.
Goldman should have been allowed to fail.
All that talent they wanted to retain was busy screwing investors buying those garbage MBS’s which John Paulson created, knowing they were going to fail. Goldman’s failure to disclose was criminal.
Posted by: drjohn | April 19, 2010, 9:05 am 9:05 am
The media’s fanfare about SEC fraud charges against Goldman Sachs is designed to scare politicians into passing the so-called financial reform bill that is before Congress.
This Bill will give to the Federal Reserve, a puppet of the huge monopoly banks, control over their remaining banking competition, what their media calls the “shadow banking system”. This competition is composed of the likes of Fidelity, Vanguard, Charles Schwab, American Century, etc… which act like banks with checking accounts, savings, mutual funds, lending and brokerage services.
Contrary to the media hype of a “new” financial order, the recent financial crisis created by the Federal Reserve eliminated banking competition and kept the “old” financial order in power that has governed since the reign of Abraham Lincoln (1861-1865).
In three years the “old” financial order has bankrupt, bought, or gained control of much of their banking competition, from Lehman Brothers to CIT.
The media publicity about Goldman’s fraud charges is a smoke and mirrors ploy to pressure Congress to pass the financial reform bill to maintain and expand this banking cartel.
Consumers and small businesses will have to lick the boots of the few elitist banks of the “old” financial order to obtain a loan. Investors and savers will have few options in their choices for high yields and returns on their investments.
Right now these monopoly banks are borrowing from the Federal Reserve at 1% and lending to consumers, via credit cards, at up to 30%. Price gouging is always the result of establishing monopolies.
It should be no surprise that the largest monopoly banks left in power are Goldman Sachs, Citibank, J.P. Morgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Mellon Bank of New York and Morgan Stanley.
All, except Bank of America, are part of the “old” financial order that mushroomed into power about 150 years ago during and after Lincoln’s Tax War. Lincoln declared in his First Inaugural Speech he started this war solely to collect his new 40% import tax from Southerners under the Morrill Tariff Act of 1861.
With the passage of his National Bank Act of 1863, Abraham Lincoln, a puppet of Northern banks and industries, re-established Alexander Hamilton’s centralist banking system in the United States, which set the foundation for the present day Federal Reserve System.
Under his First Legal Tender Act of 1862, Lincoln printed worthless paper money displaying images of Alexander Hamilton and Lincoln’s Treasury Secretary Salmon P. Chase (as in Chase Bank), which ultimately destroyed State banking.
Posted by: jebahoula | April 19, 2010, 9:40 am 9:40 am
Those that claim the financial reform legislation will benefit big banks or stifle competition are not being truthful.
First of all, the big banks are objecting to it strongly and would fight most regulation as it would limit their ability to make risky decisions. The financial sector pushed Republicans led by Sen. Phil Gramm into de-regulating banking years ago, leading to the problems we just experienced.
Follow the money, just as in the health care reform debate. When the health insurance industry was spending millions a month to fight the bill, that tells an intelligent citizen the bill will be good for the consumer. In the same way, the fact that the big financial institutions are fighting with the help of the Republican Party, against this bill, means it will be good for our economy and the taxpayer.
We’ve seen what not regulating the financial sector can do as it recently brought our economy and many around the world to the brink of disaster.
Let’s not trust the word of those who caused the disaster, that the bill is bad. They have lost all credibility to judge what is a healthy risk.
Posted by: Lydia | April 19, 2010, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Those that claim the financial reform legislation will benefit big banks or stifle competition are not being truthful.
First of all, the big banks are objecting to it strongly
Posted by: Lydia |
Citation please.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | April 19, 2010, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Here’s some money for you to follow Lydia.
For his presidential campaign in which Wall Street regulation was a mantra, Obama’s top source of funds was investment bank giant Goldman Sachs, whose employees, partners, and executives gave him $995,000 — that’s the most any politician has raised from any one company in a single election since the age of “soft money” ended.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | April 19, 2010, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
“For his presidential campaign in which Wall Street regulation was a mantra, Obama’s top source of funds was investment bank giant Goldman Sachs, whose employees, partners, and executives gave him $995,000 — that’s the most any politician has raised from any one company in a single election since the age of “soft money” ended.”
Obama raised more money than any politician had previously raised by a near 4 to 1 margin.
He outraised McCain himself by a 2 to 1 margin.
Obama’s top source for funds were employees of the University of California.
Here’s the list
University of California $1,591,395
Goldman Sachs $994,795
Harvard University $854,747
Microsoft Corp $833,617
Google Inc $803,436
Citigroup Inc $701,290
JPMorgan Chase & Co $695,132
Time Warner $590,084
Sidley Austin LLP $588,598
Stanford University $586,557
National Amusements Inc $551,683
UBS AG $543,219
Wilmerhale Llp $542,618
Skadden, Arps et al $530,839
IBM Corp $528,822
Columbia University $528,302
Morgan Stanley $514,881
General Electric $499,130
US Government $494,820
Latham & Watkins $493,835″
Obama is pursuing financial reform and regulation while the GOP doesn’t want any regulation of the industry.
The GOP using Frank Luntz’s talking points it trying to make themselves the defenders of the people versus the banking interests.
This is as laughable as when they tried to position themselves as defenders of MediCare.
The right wing is so bereft of new ideas that all they have left is calling white black and vice versa.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 19, 2010, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
“Posted by: jebahoula | Apr 19, 2010 9:40:13 AM”
Dear Neo Confederates,
The South lost, you can no longer own people.
Get over it.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 19, 2010, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Obama is pursuing financial reform and regulation while the GOP doesn’t want any regulation of the industry.
Posted by: Ryan C |
Life is so easy when you believe that your political party is as pure as ANWR.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | April 19, 2010, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm