Holder: AZ Immigration Law Not Racist

“immigration is a national problem”
OMG , xenophobe ! It’s ILLEGAL immigration that is a problem.

Of course the AZ state law isn’t racist. It’s just a regurgitation of existing federal law.
Obama and Holder had nearly a year ago told Napalitano to ease enforcement of federal immigration law.
That’s why arrests and detentions are down at the border.
Obama is a liar. Holder is a liar. Napalitano is a liar.

This is all about votes for the Dems in ’12.

As I sit here watching the round table this morning I have to ask myself if Arizona can pass a law to ask anyone they want to see there green card,and deport them when they can’t prove citizenship……. why on earth does our government allow anybody that is on a terrorist watch list (as they say it) why would they let anyone on the list rather you are the 1st or the 100th or just tied to the list in anyway WHY let them into this country at all?
I would also like to say to Mr. Shelby…………If the terrorist didn’t have a plan already to take out universal studios you just gave them a new terrorist act to plan……What are you thinking?

I think we could potentially
get on a slippery slope where people will be picked on because of how
they look as opposed to what they have done, and that is I think
something that we have to try to avoid at all costs.
Fearmongering.

“I think we could potentially
get on a slippery slope where people will be picked on because of how
they look as opposed to what they have done, and that is I think
something that we have to try to avoid at all costs.” – Eric “Hold This” Holder
Pfftttt! There goes my morning coffee!
At all costs!!!!!
Hey Mr. Attorney General, what needs to be avoided “at all costs” is any more American Citizens murdered by illegal aliens.
Wake Up Sir!
The majority of Americans don’t care about some “race” being inconvenienced if it serves the greater good.

Good Job Mr. Holder;
This is a situation where not everyone’s personal itch is gonna get scratched.
As long as the conversation is framed in terms of ‘America’ and American interests all will be well.
It is only unfortunate that ‘race’ did in fact become so central to much of the public response ie. negative racial comments from various sides.
While the AZ law itself never reflected any racial anything….only the potential that it could be perceived as such by various parties involved. (everybody?)
Mr. Holder articulated it well. It is not ‘racial’ as initially declared by spokespeople for various alien groups. (including Al; at the tail end of things).
We need to grow up as a people. There is a genuine need and it needs to be addressed; and it is not motivated by anybody s ‘skin tone’ as the law was initially, unfairly and inaccurately described.

Camilo, “greatness of this country” going into the trash can? Maybe if we’re talking about losing our greatness, because the rule of law is being ignored in favor of propping up the corrupt who want to hire only cheap foreign labor, and demand we subsidize them, and corrupt politicians like Obama and the dems in congress who are in bed with those same interests.
The greatness in this country is the rule of law, the constitution and bill of rights, and it’s citizenry. Not your third worldist’s dream of expanding it’s banana republic status quo.
Wall St. supports illegal aliens and open borders, they get even richer, while the vast majority of US citizens get poorer. Face it, if illegal aliens were such great workers and so profitable, then why is it their home countries won’t spend a penny to help them in their home countries, but only to keep them here?
They aren’t great people, they aren’t hard workers, they’re only cheaper. They are corrupt, they don’t respect the rule of law, and they bleed the taxpayers dry. They have contributed to the increase of the high school dropout rates, through their demands for ESL, which has bled money from basic education programs, like math and science.
You and your fellow illegals can self deport, and go “work hard” in your home countries for change, because you’re going to be deported and similar laws to the one in Az are being implemented in states all around the US. Believe it or not, it’s going to happen in California too.. the welfare spigot is going to be turned off, denied to illegal aliens.

I think it is even more interesting that they are now trying to tell us jobs are opening up at the same time they are getting an Immigration Reform bill going. I bet they will have jobs showing commiserate to illegals and students they want legalized, so we will think it’s ok to have their Immigration Bill approved giving Mexicans the amnesty they and their Mexican Advocates demand. Keep your eyes and ears open.
Yes, this is pressuring at its best.

Remember the Alamo? Obama needs to fire his attorney general.

Profiling!! Try being a white long haired kid in the 60′s. I was a musician, never took drugs, yet I was getting pulled over or questioned by the cops for being “suspicious” all the time.
I don’t remember the ACLU or the government coming to my aid, since I wasn’t breaking any law, I survived!

We americans will band together as our forefathers did in defeating the english to stomp out illegal thugs who should be overthrowing thier own corrupt government .

The Dems. want them to become citizens because they are a VERY LARGE VOTING BLOCK and would keep the Dems. in office forever! This Country would become a one party state then.

sb1070 is the same as the federal law. arizona state copied it and modify a little to make it a state law. Since federal government is not doing its job to protect Arizona, then we have no choice but look after ourselves.
arizona could now count on their national guardsmen to be deployed near or on the border and not wait forever for white house to use the US armed forces to which I have my doubt especially obama as the commander in chief of the United states.

He makes an important distinction. The law may not have been racist in motivation (although we can bet it was fr some people), but it can easily be abused by racist individuals charged with carrying it out.

Well now even a democrat says it’s not a racist law. What will the pro illegal cartel do? Let’s hear some more lies from the loony left.

The Dems. want them to become citizens
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Isn’t that exactly what Bush was proposing?
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Correct, and most of his base was in strong diagreement with him. Not sure ther is any relationship to the situation other than some loony left winger trying to make silly irrelevent points and draw attention away from the facts.
Posted by: jonny | May 9, 2010 3:23:37 PM
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Wasn’t Bush the governor of Texas – a state bordering Mexico? I would think he had some experience with the issue.
And wasn’t he also the Republican choice for president?

The Dems. want them to become citizens
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Isn’t that exactly what Bush was proposing?
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Correct, and most of his base was in strong diagreement with him. Not sure ther is any relationship to the situation other than some loony left winger trying to make silly irrelevent points and draw attention away from the facts.
Posted by: jonny | May 9, 2010 3:23:37 PM
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Wasn’t Bush the governor of Texas – a state bordering Mexico? I would think he had some experience with the issue.
And wasn’t he also the Republican choice for president?
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This is a waste of time. This is the year 2010. Bush was governor in 1994,
Time to grow up a little!

This is a waste of time. This is the year 2010. Bush was governor in 1994,
Time to grow up a little!
Posted by: jonny | May 9, 2010 4:12:19 PM
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Time for some truth. Bush was Governor of Texas from 1994 through 1999 and his run for presidency – and his proposal that illegal immigrants be allowed to become citizens was made when he was president.
Gotta love Republicans running away from their history and their record – if you had their record you’d try to pretend it didn’t exist too.

How does a political party get past their past record and start over? It doesn’t matter what is proposed, they are held to their old record. If a party wants to start over because they “saw the light” regarding immigration or any other subject, how do they do it? Apologize for the past and Practice, practice, practice. Lead by example. If you have changed your mind, you just need to keep playing the new song until people believe you.

No this law is not racist..But I am sure if Obama just for his Vote bank imposes a new Amnesty bill on us that will destry the whole coutry’s immigration system and change the demographic set up of the country from educated to uneducated people. We already know our education system is deteriorating..health system is getting worse all these things are due to illegal immigration..Illegals are not only from Mexico they are from India, pakistan and many other countries..All illegals should be deported..

“Ah these guys got blond hairs so they can’t be illegal. But these guys got black hairs let’s stop them they could be illegal.” This is what’s going to happen in AZ.
People could be stop every week because they look different.

You have two families: “Joe Legal” and “Jose Illegal”.
Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California .
Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes
$25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and
gets paid $15.00 cash “under the table”.
Ready? Now pay attention…
Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00
per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has
$31,231.00.
Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or
$31,200.00 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has
$31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his
family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has
$24,031.00.
Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and
local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has
$31,200.00.
Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or
welfare.
Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal
now has $18,031.00.
Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and
welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe
Legal now has $9,631.00.
Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Jose
Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal
still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. Joe Legal now
has $7,231.00.
Jose Illegal says, “We don’t need no stinkin’ insurance!” and still has
$31,200.00.
Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.
Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities,
gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.
Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after
work.
Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
Joe Legal’s and Jose Illegal’s children both attend the same school. Joe
Legal pays for his children’s lunches while Jose Illegal’s children get a
government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal’s children have an after school ESL
program. Joe Legal’s children go home.
Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but
Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.
Do you get it, now?
If you vote for or support ANY politician that supports illegal aliens…YOU
are part of the problem!
It’s way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans! VOTE ‘EM ALL
OUT IN 2010!!!!!

How could it mandate “racial profiling” and NOT be racist, I guess that would be the WHITE view, you know the same view that brought us “separate but equal”?

AmiO …can you point the provision in this bill that calls for racial profiling ….I have looked in vain for it …enlighten me

If you understand that there is a huge Mexican American population in Arizona, and they are well represented on the police forces, you have a notion that things will be fine.
We have a problem with the ‘how’ it is applied. We need to protect the majority. That majority is Mexican American and First Tribes far more the European American. The effect of that protection is to remove narcotics from both of those neighbor hoods and if you could get the new stats out of the Department of Justice files, you would discover those neighborhoods need… NEED that protection. If we don’t give it to them, all we will have on down the road are Mexican Americans and First Tribe people with felony records for narcotics use.
But the fact is, there are a dozen, at least, states that are trying to get that law on their books. And the reason they want that law on their books is because the Mexican Mafia is very busy corrupting THEIR children in their states.
We needed Federal Protection for all of the United States. We didn’t get it. That law is going to show up in a lot of states I think.

“Holder: AZ Immigration Law Not Racist” – ABC News
Yeah but Eric Holder is a racist.

I like it when Holder talks in the first person, using the plural ‘we’, but then shifts to ‘you’ when expressing his take on the possibility of racism, shown here: ” That is certainly one of the concerns that you have, that
you’ll end up in a situation where people are racially profiled…”
Because it’s an opinion, he clearly means “I”. It’s a neat deflection, subtle but effective in making it seem like we all share his concern.
Aside from that, do these preople really think that we should be looking for white Norwegian grandmothers or Korean students in border towns? If 99.999% of illegals in Arizona are Hispanic, why wouldn’t we be looking at Hispanics to confirm their immigration status? Just more political correct nonsense to go along with not profilng terrorist suspects at airports, pretending that almost all terrorists in the past 25 years have not been Islamic Arab/Persian males between the age of 18 and 40. By all means, let’s continue to search middle school field trips and white female octogenarians for hidden c-4.

Nobody in AZ has been able to say what will give police their reasonable suspicion. Not the governor, not the people that wrote the law, no one in the media. It’s impossible.
Forget about the immigrants for a second and think of how this affects Americans. What kind of a hostile living environment will this create for them? Constantly being questioned as too their “Americannes”? Not even Immigration and Customs has any guidelines on looks. That’s not how they operate.

I believe in CIVIL rights, but you also have to keep a foot in common sense and reality. Someone was commentating on how this world is changing, and how England, and Israel has become a lot more stringent on things, but that America shouldn’t make any changes in civil rights. What are these people going to say when their kids school bus explodes, or their spouse is killed in a suicide bombing, by some naive kid who thinks he is going to paradise. How about the Arizona, (or maybe from somewhere further north) kid who is caught up in crossfire, during a drug war. On another hand we have CRIMINAL rights attorneys right now going to bat for a mass murderer rights, after murdering several women. Civil Rights? Yes. BUT WE NEED COMMON SENSE ALSO.

Who cares what Holder says…..it’s what the Obama administration doesn’t do that so darn important.
Close the border to all illegals, immediately. What about that plea from the American people don’t you understand.

By the way, the Gov there in AZ as said they are being terroized, and that crime from these immigrants is out of control. The latest reports show that crime has gone down significantly in the state over the last couple of years. So it is just a bunch of fact free retorhic. She and that cowboy sherrif down there want everyone to think they are being overrun by lawless people that are stealing our goods and our jobs when it is simply not true. The thing is the people they are pandering too don’t need facts to back up their prejudice, they just need good sounding slogans like take the cuffs off the cops and put them on the mexicans.

Not a single blogger can tell us how to handle this situation, but many are more then willing to allow racial profiling as a means to vent their frustrations with the situation. If you are hiring illegals then you are breaking the law. Take the cuffs off the cops and put them on the rich white man. All of you righties that think they all should go. Who is going to work the jobs they do? You? If the employers have to start paying legal people minimum wage and get less work from these employess, then who is going to cover the costs? How many of them will go out of business because the cost of doing business has just doubled? You folks against a $95 a year for medical insurance saying it will break the small business mans back, but all for doubleing the cost of business for these farmers. Your not looking for a solution. Your looking to blame the other people instead of the people who are to blame, yourselves. I agree with everyone that says boycott AZ until they start acting like Honorable Americans, not frustrated mindless biggots.

I think the basketball team that protested in Arizona are a bunch of hippocrites. Most of them are Black like myself, yet they never protested racial profiling for Black Americans. Now all of a sudden they are speaking out stupidly for illegals. What country can any of those player break into and get everying thing free….. When they figure that out they can call me.

AL SHARPTON IS WRONG ON THIS TOPIC. HE IS OUT THERE FIGHTING FOR ILLEGALS TO STAY TO STEAL JOBS FROM AMERICAN BLACKS. WHAT A NUT CASE AND I AM A BLACK AMERICAN. THAT’S LIKE MARCHING FOR THE DRUG DEALERS BECAUSE THE POLICE ASKED THEM IF THEY HAD DRUGS ON THEM. ILLEGALS ARE JUST THAT–LAW BREAKERS. AL SHARPTON NEED TO BE MARCHING ABOUT THE BAD LYRICS IN RAP MUSIC THAT PUT DOWNS WOMEN AND PROMOTES VIOLENCE. YET AL SHARPTON HAS NOT DONE ONE MARCH ON THAT. DOES HE CARE ABOUT BLACKS AT ALL OR IS IT JUST A SHOW.

The law is not racist! The law is going after the criminals that are here illegaly.

What a worthless interview. Holder was allowed to duck questions.
The only worthwhile thing in it is the statement that we are a nation of cowards because we fear speaking out loud about race. It is so true. If we attempt an open dialog about race we are branded racist, doesn’t matter what the truth is. If the majority of illegals are from Mexico it is logic not racism to question their legality.

First of all to the question about who is going to work the jobs that illegals do? How about the 9.9% of Americans who are unemployed at the moment? Second, if the Arizona government were exremely intelligent, then they would ratify the language in the law again. “During a normal police encounter, all persons must provide proof of identity. If they are not able to provide proper identification, then such persons must provide proof of citizenship (eg: DL #.) Probelm solved, we “profile” everyone.

Deport them all! I went through hell to get a citizenship. Lost my health due to stress of it. I want them to suffer too.

I respected the law, and did everything legally. Instead of doing a job I liked, I took one that provided legal status, even though the boss was abusive and work was stressful. I had to work there many years to get an employer-sponsored green card. I finally got citizenship, but stress triggered a serious mental disease and I’m on disability now. I never broke the law though.

Obama should not comment AZ law so fast.
Last year he said the police acted “stupidly …”
THE STUPID ONE IS …

My great great grandfather came through the legal way. Why is that not possible now. I read the law and there is nothing wrong with it. I am for immigration the right way. I salute Arizona for standing up for states rights and the rights of the citizens. This is a great country that has always welcomed immigrants but there is due process. The people that are using the racists statements are just trying to stir things up. And on top of that we have an administration stirring things up. That is not leadership.

LOOK AT WHAT LA RAZA IS TEACHING YOUNG HISPANICS! TO OVERTHROW THE U.S. GOVT AND KILL EVERYONE WHO IS NOT HISPANIC — LIKE NAZI GERMANY!

Maybe you should have asked him if he had read the bill. How can a man, whose job it is to enforce laws, do his job or EVEN HAVE AN OPINION when he hasn’t even read the law!!

Hot scoop ABC News: Holder admits in the Washington post today that he didn’t read the bill.
“I have not had a chance to — I’ve glanced at it,” Holder said at a House Judiciary Committee hearing when asked had he read the state law cracking down on illegal immigrants.
GEEEEZ. Both ABC and Holder asleep at the wheel. Embarrassing.
Why doesn’t ABC report on this?
Seem to be a trend with this administration not to even read legislation, or even the consitution.

Public streets and parks must be declared no stop and frisk zones. Those suspected of criminal activity can be searched in their homes or places of business after a court order is issued. Good detective work will still apprehend criminals in their hideouts, but never in the fresh air. A nation full of petty criminals in the streets and parks is more interesting than the morbidity of a police state.

So has our atty. Gen. read the dang bill yet. I just think it’s amazing he said it was a racist bill before he read it and now we are suppose to give him credibility that what he says is not biased

You should have reported that Holder hasn’t even read the bill.

I think this law is gonna start people gettin racist. Plus the gov. only gives you 2 months to get your papers and it aint that easy to get your papers any more.

Many have already called Arizona residents racists. They are concerned that police will profile Hispanics and disproportionally harass them. But we understand something others in Washington , D.C. and San Francisco don’t seem to remember — we border Mexico . The fact is that most illegal immigrants coming across the border here are, well, Mexicans. Those of us down here facing the danger every day really don’t care what some Hollywood actor has to say about the issue. Nor do we care about what the Colombian government or the Latino music community thinks of it. We just want to stay safe.
This is not about race; it’s about facts. Use a few of these facts the next time somebody wants to engage you in discussion about the border. Tell him you learned these things from somebody who can see Mexico from his front porch.

This fake anti Arizona stance from the administration is PURELY political. What’s most appalling to me is that the administration values Hispanic votes more than American lives.
Both sides need to consider this fact.