Immigration Hits Home for Young Girl and First Lady Michelle Obama
ABC News’ Karen Travers reports: During First Lady Michelle Obama’s visit to an elementary school in Silver Spring, Md., Wednesday, a second grade female student brought up immigration reform in a very personal way.
The student shyly raised her hand and said, “My mom … she says that Barack Obama is taking everybody away that doesn’t have papers.”
Mrs. Obama replied:”Yeah, well that’s something that we have to work on, right? To make sure that people can be here with the right kind of papers, right? That’s exactly right.”
The girl then said quietly, “But my mom doesn’t have any …” and trailed off.
Mrs. Obama replied: “Well, we have to work on that. We have to fix that, and everybody’s got to work together in Congress to make sure that happens. That’s right.”
The exchange came during a visit with Mexico’s First Lady Margarita Zavala to the New Hampshire Estates Elementary School in Silver Spring, Md.
- Karen Travers
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Posted by: Bob | May 19, 2010, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Mrs. Obama replied: “Well, we have to work on that. We have to fix that, and everybody’s got to work together in Congress to make sure that happens. That’s right.”
Is she serious?! how is that we are the only country not allowed to protect our borders?
FYI, if you dont have papers then you are here ILLEGALLY. Follow the immigration procedure like all the other immigrants did and quit disrespecting our country and its laws.
Posted by: scott | May 19, 2010, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Posted by: scott | May 19, 2010 12:59:23 PM
So, you would frighten a little girl?
We have no idea what else happened after that, but personally I don’t think shouting ILLEGAL to a scared kid is going to accomplish much, nor ranting about borders. As a mom and someone who cares very much about all children, I think your knee jerk response is bizarre. There was no indication from her remarks that Michelle Obama doesn’t support protecting our borders.
Context, dude. Context.
Posted by: progressive mama | May 19, 2010, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
what kind of rambling answer was that?
Posted by: sarainitaly | May 19, 2010, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
“So, you would frighten a little girl? ”
Where, in any part of scott’s response, do you come away with the notion that he would scare that little girl?
I don’t need to speak for him, but his response was directed towards the first lady and her awful response that somehow congress needs to fix the situation that resulted in this girl’s mom being an illegal immigrant?
Unless you’re suggesting that you agree and the congress needs to tighten the border so it is tougher for illegals to get here.
Posted by: J.R. | May 19, 2010, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Posted by: J.R. | May 19, 2010 1:22:50 PM
As I said, context, dude, context. She was talking to a little girl in a classroom who was scared. you both seem to imply that you want her to give a response to that little girl that would satisfy your ilk.
Classy.
Posted by: progressive mama | May 19, 2010, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
There’s something incredibly sad about a young child asking the most powerful women in the nation for relief. Imagine the impact that such a life, fear has on the mind of that child.
For those who continue to say “why don’t they just do it the right way and immigrate legally,” you need to first note that 1) you don’t understand immigration law (which is the second most complex law after tax law) and 2) learn what it actually takes to come into this country legally. You have absolutely no idea.
It takes courage to say I want to give my child a better life, away from poverty, crime, and hopelessness. You don’t have millions of “criminals” in the country — you have people who want to share in the American progress.
Stop distorting the facts, stop lying to justify your xenophobia and/or racism.
Posted by: LetThereBeLight | May 19, 2010, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Unless you agree and the congress needs to tighten the border so it is tougher for illegals to get here.
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I think we need to tighten and protect anour borders, and figure out what to do about the many illegals who are already here– who aren’t criminals, who have been here for years with children born here, and who contribute to our society. We need to address the issues without demonizing folks or painting them all with the same broad brush.
I would like Congress to take up immigration reform– and address the border issue so we don’t end up putting cops in border states between a rock and a hard place.
I do not think we need to frighten a little girl whose mother is illegal when she shyly asks the First Lady a question.
Posted by: progressive mama | May 19, 2010, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
There’s something incredibly sad about a young child asking the most powerful women in the nation for relief. Imagine the impact that such a life, fear has on the mind of that child.
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Yes, good post. My heart just broke for that little girl. What a scary and heartbreaking sitution to be in– one the child didn’t choose.
Posted by: progressive mama | May 19, 2010, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
No mama, I wouldn’t do anything to frighten that girl anymore than she already was. But the first lady did not have to say we will have to work together to get congress “to fix” that for us.
I see your point about the situation and I do have the benefit of hindsight.
Also, does anyone else find this girl’s question fishy? I mean, what illegal immigrant would think Obama wants to send all of them home? Especially after of the criticisms he has had of the AZ law? Not to mention this girl is in 2nd grade!! Seems almost scripted.
Posted by: J.R. | May 19, 2010, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
TOTALLY WRONG!
The people of this country WILL NOT accept the DEMS wholesaling acceptance of all illegals that are already here…..not on our watch!
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | May 19, 2010, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Posted by: J.R. | May 19, 2010 1:35:48 PM
I have a first grader, and they pick up on stuff but then turn it into questions that lack nuance. They’re young. My son asked me why all John McCain and his “publicans” hate Barack Obama and me, and if they hate him, too. (I made a mistake of taking him with me to deliver some campaign stuff in summer of ’08.) I explained that they didn’t really hate us, that it was like baseball and we were cheering for different teams. Now he thinks the Republicans are sorta like the Chicago Cubs or something.
They’re kids, and she’s living with the fear of her mother being deported– and I’m sure she’s hoping Michelle Obama can help her.
Its really so very sweet and innocent– and sad.
Posted by: progressive mama | May 19, 2010, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Yes, good post. My heart just broke for that little girl. What a scary and heartbreaking sitution to be in– one the child didn’t choose.
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True, the child didn’t choose it. But her mother really should not be telling the little girl that someone wants to round up all the people without papers- including her.
Posted by: MayBee | May 19, 2010, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
What Michelle should have said -
Don’t worry, the US government will not separate you from your mother. If she indeed doesn’t have the right papers to be here then she will need to apply for them. If that means she needs to go back to her country then she’ll take you with her and your mother can then apply to come to America legally.
That’s what a responsible adult would have said.
Posted by: Noz | May 19, 2010, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
does anyone else find this girl’s question fishy?
Posted by: J.R
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Absolutely. Anyone who’d scare an 8 year old kid that way doesn’t deserve kids.
Posted by: smartlillena | May 19, 2010, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Posted by: Noz | May 19, 2010 1:57:06 PM
After the fact, its always a lot easier to come up with a better response. We’ve all been there. Imho, Michelle Obama didn’t say anything irresponsible.
I suppose some squirrels will go nuts anyway– there’s always a way, but there are bigger concerns in other contexts.
On to another thread for moi..
Posted by: progressive mama | May 19, 2010, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Progressivemama, you said “I think we need to tighten and protect our borders, and figure out what to do about the many illegals who are already here– who aren’t criminals, who have been here for years with children born here” What do you mean they aren’t criminals – they broke the law to get here so they are criminals. Just because they CHOSE to have children here doesn’t matter. So, we don’t send women & men to prison who have children – same idea. They have the choice of taking the children back to their home country and coming the legal way. They should not be able to butt in front of people doing it the legal way. A second grader doesn’t know what “papers” are. It was a set up.
Posted by: BornHere | May 19, 2010, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Hey ProMa,
I just typed off the cuff the first thing that came to my mind.
I’m sure Michelle said the first thing that came to her mind.
No biggie but it does indicate where each of our priorities lie.
Posted by: Noz | May 19, 2010, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
To the person whining about how hard it is to legally come to the US…every country on this earth has pretty tough procedures to emigrate to their country. And it should be hard. Check out Mexico’s laws! Why is every other country in the world allowed to control their borders and immigration, but if we do it, we are racists? If you have no borders, you have no sovereignty. It is not heartless to expect immigrants to respect our laws, when we as citizens are supposed to respect those laws, and those of countries we are visiting. Plus, the little girls question was an obvious set up. No media outlet has ever portrayed Obama as wanting to round up illegals, quite the opposite. He believes their rights trump the rights of the citizens.
Posted by: Suzanne | May 19, 2010, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
You cannot hide information like that from your child even if you want to. The fact is that there are thousands of families in this country with people of mixed status’. An American child should not fear coming home to an empty house. We need comprehensive immigration reform and we need it now! Tighter border security, the DREAM ACT, and an earned path to legalization!
Posted by: TexasLiberal | May 19, 2010, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Posted by: BornHere | May 19, 2010 2:27:50 PM
The problem with your post is twofold. First, it was obvious I meant that there are unauthorized immigrants who committed a federal misdemeanor by coming here or staying here in an unauthorized manner, but once here, they do not commit additional crimes.
Secondly, the child didn’t choose to be born here– plus, there are a wide range of circumstances “back home” depending on how and why the unauthorized immigrant came here.
Its disingenuous to paint everyone with the same broad demonized brush. As the Immigration Policy Center puts it, “Anti-immigrant activists and politicians are fond of relying upon anecdotes to support their oft-repeated claim that immigrants, especially undocumented immigrants, are dangerous criminals. While these kinds of arguments are emotionally powerful, they are intellectually dishonest. Numerous studies by independent researchers and government commissions over the past 100 years have consistently found that immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than the native-born.”
I’ve found a lot of emotionalizing and fearmongering on the topic, and I don’t think that helps us resolve the issues in a responsible, fair or logical manner. Instead, politicians kick it down the road leading to circumstances like Arizona — where, seriously, this has now been kicked to overextended police officers, some of whom are challenging the law.
Posted by: progressive mama | May 19, 2010, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
A second grader doesn’t know what “papers” are. It was a set up.
Posted by: BornHere
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Well, it’s extremely unusual for an 8 year old child of illegals, in a stressful situation, to have a command of English to that degree. Practically unheard of.
Posted by: smartlillena | May 19, 2010, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
I have worked hard all my life, have been responsible with money, etc. Yet, I still can’t take vacations, have money in the bank, etc. I see that the banks have money. If I go to the bank and take their money, I have committed a crime and I will be punished for it. It’s the same with illegal immigrants. They see our way of life and take it. Then people like me suffer for it. It is illegal. Like I said before, it doesn’t matter if they CHOOSE to have children here. We should not have to pay for that illegal or the child. They should both go back where they came from.
Posted by: BornHere | May 19, 2010, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Never ever forget who opened the door wide for illegals to come here:
RONALD REAGAN!!!! (He is also responsible for unemployment benefits and social security being taxed)
We need to fine the employers who give them jobs. It won’t happen though.
Why? Because the employers give money to campaigns so that nothing will happen to them.
Don’t blame an innocent child who is an American citizen.
Posted by: DownriverDem | May 19, 2010, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
This child has more sence then most adults. Just think each American had a family member come to this land from some other country. We even fight to keep an immigrant who brings the US pride in sports. Check out your favorite baseball/basketball/football team and look at the immigrants your cheering for. What’s sad is our Law Makers don’t care but want your vote and your money. Out of the mouth of a child as Jesus said honesty would come from. Adults should feel ashame that they can’t be good examples to the children. The President now has to teach the children how the Govenment is run and what the US Constitution means, because more parents don’t. I hope the child’s Mother gets her papers soon because you can beat some racist is going to call the cops to arrest her.
Posted by: Jackie | May 19, 2010, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
They have lots of schools in Mexico. I’m sure she’ll do fine there. Besides Mexico is the #12 GDP country in the world with more natural resources than the US – she’ll be able to pursue her dreams just fine there.
Posted by: Bill Leslie | May 19, 2010, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
I must be getting very skeptical in my old age. Am I the only one thinking this child was used as a ploy, a plant, to foster more sympathy for illegals in this country? Our President needs to realize that legal residents of this country are tired of the drain on our economy. Yes, we are a Nation of immigrants–LEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!!!! Mr. President, stop standing with a president of a foreign country that is literally invading us and criticizing the State of Arizona for enacting a law in hopes of stemming the flow of illegals across our borders because the Federal Government has been too busy pandering to this group to actually enforce our laws. Enough is enough!!!
Posted by: Deb | May 19, 2010, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
I don’t think this kid had a clue to what she was even asking – she was totally prompted – and if her parents are illegals they can all go back and come here the right way. No one is saying to split up the family – the entire family can go back. This kid wouldn’t have been frightened if the FLOTUS said yes if your parents are here illegally you and your family are going to go visit where you Mommy & Daddy grew up while they do what they were supposed to do. You get to see where Mommy & Daddy went to school and played when they were your age – sounds like fun doesn’t it… that is how clueless this child was to what was going on the FLOTUS said nothing and that was accepted as the answer.
Posted by: kade | May 19, 2010, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Because more illegals have been sent back. Do some research. I doubt she was a plant. You need to go outside of your state and look at some of the bordering states. People act like they got a one way invitation just as soon as Obama got elected. Grow up. They have been here a long time. Cheap labor, doing the jobs that people would not do. And they cry about not having a job. Give me a break. Both parties are the problem. If you have such an issue with Mexicans coming into the USA then have your Senators do immigration NOW. Demand it gets done and then encourage your friends to go work in the fields picking fruit, vegs, making beds, and all of the hard labor jobs that you think they steal. Don’t be the problem, be the solution. The backwards profiling laws will never work.
Posted by: Diane | May 19, 2010, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
I wish people would stop making the excuses that undocumented workers do the work that Americans wouldn’t do. Ask all the carpenters and construction workers out of work about that? What about the service and hospitality industry? What about the maintenance industry? Nobody is buying the “immigrant picking grapes story” at all. I think we need to be five times harder on companies who lure/hire undocumented workers–leading to identity theft and humanity issues with underpaid illegal workers.
Posted by: M | May 19, 2010, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
The kid addressed the question to the wrong first lady. Ask Margarita Zavala what Mexico does with “undocumented” (i.e. illegal) immigrants.
Don’t sweep this one under the rug, ABC!
Posted by: True_Liberal | May 19, 2010, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
I just hope her family isn’t found to be working for OFA or Podesta like the little boy during the healthcare debate. I hate when grown ups push kids into the middle of these things.
Posted by: obieone40 | May 19, 2010, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Do you like salad M? Who do you think picked it? You did. Think again. If all of the illegal immigrants stopped working for one day, people would be crying on both side of the political aisles. And your bigger point is that those that hire people should get in trouble. Good luck with that one.
Posted by: Rene | May 19, 2010, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Mexico is a place controlled by drug cartels. Terror is a very real thing going on everyday there on a scale we Americans should empathize with more. Deporting non-criminals is a death sentence. Not just turn a blind eye and say “Lets get rid of these outsiders”
Posted by: Dennis | May 19, 2010, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Why don’t we just fix our immigration system so these workers can come here legally? They wouldn’t come if there was no work.
Posted by: Quaker Orts | May 19, 2010, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Rene, I live and grew up around illegal/undocumented populations. I experienced the good and the bad. Please don’t try to question my knowledge. I love lettuce, but I also live around the most overcrowded hospitals, high number of illegal S.Offenders in my county, over-crowded schools, and many many many carpenters and trade workers who are citizens who are denied work. The companies who hire them needs to be held accountable and Mexico also. I have illegals in my complex who never pay rent because govt/non-profit organizations help them out—but out-of-work citizens have to dump their whole kitchen sink of identity and income proof to get denied help. Illegals in my apartment get help through identity theft and fake contact numbers…and let’s not talk about communities not assimilating. Don’t go there, because I speak from experience…and let’s not talk about crime and hiding under the radar of fake identities.
Posted by: M | May 19, 2010, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
They don’t have to fix the immigration laws they just have to enforce them – BTW when Reagan gave amnesty that congress was requesting he did so because they were supposed to stop the flow of illegals after that… this bull crap that they do jobs no one else will when they were doing work raids that Obama stopped hundreds of people were applying for the jobs that opened up – but Obama couldn’t have that constant narrative in the paper that getting rid of illegals was opening up jobs for the unemployed citizens – that those jobs were good enough for Americans – no we have to continue the propaganda that these jobs are beneath regular citizens. Send them all back and let them fix their own Countries we have enough problems here without 29% of them collecting welfare and none of them paying taxes or if they are then they have already committed another crime Identity theft and that is a felony and millions of them have done that one – they aren’t very innocent.
Posted by: kade | May 19, 2010, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
I think many people here does not have an idea of how much these legal immigrant laws are doing to entire families. I was been separated from my husband for almost 2 years so I could have my legal residency here. How about mothers with little children? Would you as a parent separate from your own children for that long? Just think about that.
Posted by: laura Ulrich | May 19, 2010, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Laura no one is forcing you to be separated you could be living where your husband is no one is stopping you – you are separated by choice. Now we have people in our military that are separated from their families for years and their families don’t have the choice of going to be with them … so don’t give me this sob story that you are being forced to be away from your husband… you choose to be separated.
Posted by: kade | May 19, 2010, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
To Kade, I did not choose to separate my husband, I did not have other option. I was forced to leave this country. do you understand now?
Posted by: laura Ulrich | May 19, 2010, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Do you know how many families are been separated for obeying the immigrant laws? Does this sound fair for you? Not to me.
Posted by: laura Ulrich | May 19, 2010, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
How can you say things like Obama believes that the rights of immigrants trump the rights of citizens? That’s nuts. It’s not whether the US can control its border—of course it should control its border, no one is saying the opposite–it’s HOW it controls its border. Demonizing people who are already here is not a good way to control the border. Anyhow, more than half the people who are here didn’t cross the border illegally! They came here as tourists. So you want to stop tourism, also? That would be great for the economy.
Posted by: Andrea | May 19, 2010, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
laura, look at the U.S. divorce rate. Most U.S. divorces have to do with money disputes—when our government allows companies to unethically encourage hiring illegal, and identity theft, it puts U.S. citizens out of work—leading to family separation. So you’re not the only one having to deal the those problems. Corporate greed!!!! Mexico lack of accountability!!! Greed, greed, greed!
Posted by: M | May 19, 2010, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Um, why was this girl not taken out of that class, AND school? Her parents are ILLEGAL! WITHOUT PAPERS! Look, here’s the deal. Either the rule of law means something, or it does not. Either we follow the rules, or we do not. All I know is these people are here illegally. Not paying income tax, and drawing from the system, money that they are NOT entitled too! Apparently, the rule of law does not count for minorities anymore in this country…
Posted by: Jared | May 19, 2010, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Laura and your husband couldn’t go with you? My sister in law is from Russia and came here legally – my brother and she have never been forced to be separated. When they were applying for her citizenship before they got married – the immigration official said she might have to go back to Russia for two years before she could stay permanently – my brother turned to the IO and said then can I move to Russia for the years that she has to go, will it stop or slow the application – the IO said yes but they have very strict VISA laws there I think you will have to go back and forth and no it won’t stop your application process. They started filling out the paperwork with the Russian consulate for a travel VISA for him while they started her immigration paperwork here… just to let you know they have never been separated – because they made sure they weren’t… so it is a choice.
Posted by: kade | May 19, 2010, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
“Um, why was this girl not taken out of that class, AND school? Her parents are ILLEGAL! WITHOUT PAPERS! Look, here’s the deal. Either the rule of law means something, or it does not. Either we follow the rules, or we do not. All I know is these people are here illegally. Not paying income tax, and drawing from the system, money that they are NOT entitled too! Apparently, the rule of law does not count for minorities anymore in this country… ”
Did you stop think that maybe that little girl is an American… born in American soil? Because I’m almost certain she is.
Posted by: Sophia | May 19, 2010, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
The above reply is for Jared
Posted by: Sophia | May 19, 2010, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Posted by: progressive mama | May 19, 2010 2:27:11 PM
Hey ProMa, big kudos to you for saying I had a better response than Michelle Obama.
: o )
Posted by: Noz | May 19, 2010, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
To Kade, again. My husband has an excellent job here and of course none of us would want him to resign. When you have a great carreer is hard to quit. And he was not a us citizen at that time when we got married. If you read the law, if someone marry a us resident, they force them to leave the country. Many are still waiting longer than what I had to wait, as long as 4 or 5 years…Can you imagine if they have children?
Posted by: laura Ulrich | May 19, 2010, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
By the way, Kade, my husband does have 4 children, and I wouldn’t have him come with me and force him to separate from them. Do you understand?
Posted by: laura Ulrich | May 19, 2010, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Posted by: Noz | May 19, 2010 4:45:57 PM
Listen, Noz. I’ve been told I’m the meanest, most awful, most partisan, dirty lowdown communist, socialist commenter on these boards, bar none ever, ever, evah (!!!) so, please, don’t ruin my reputation…
:^)
Posted by: progressive mama | May 19, 2010, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
We need to fine the employers who give them jobs.
Posted by: DownriverDem |
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That logic does give them choices; starve to death, exist 100% on the gov’t teat, or they can rob banks.
Posted by: smartlillena | May 19, 2010, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Well then mom needs to either get legal real quick or Go back where she came from.
These schools(some at least) don’t care who’s legal or not. It’s about the bucks they can collect.
I KNOW this as fact because I work in a school
where they just turn their head, accept the student, and the govt. handouts they get for accepting that child. It’s appalling for many reasons. It’s disrespectful to both the student, the family, and the legal citizens everywhere, and disrespectful (in this instance) by the Catholic church that allows this to continue.
Posted by: Elaina | May 19, 2010, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
actually illegal immigrants do pay taxes. so people please get your facts straight!And pls. stop stereotyping hispanics.
Posted by: Naye | May 19, 2010, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Fines and/or jail for employers of illegals and their (not-so-subtle, amnesty seeking) accomplices, such as the one featured in the above video are fically irresponsible. Permanent marooning is what is called for. In the interest of anthropological research (and fun), throw in some seed packets, to test their amazing self-sufficiency…. and wisdom. :)
All subscribers to the television show would atomatically become stockholders in the production.
Posted by: Beowulf3 | May 19, 2010, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
I don’t think ANYBODY needs to worry about Obama wanting people to produce papers or documentation! Besides his own questions he has had at least one close family member who are illegal but, likely due to influence, have been allowed to stay in the USA.
Posted by: Ed | May 19, 2010, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
I had a friend who sent the kids with her husband back to Mexico with him and she stayed here while he came here the right way – and she called them often.. no I am not crying for anyone here – that your husband wasn’t a citizen either… big deal, his four children were with whom obviously not you, were they living with him or their mother? People are separated by choice – you choose the steps you took in life you live with the consequences it isn’t like these laws are anything new… I do not pity you at all, that your husband had a good job here and that was your priority – still your choice that you chose, not to marry someone that already had their citizenship still your choice. I am not pitting you for your choices and I am not pitting people that choose to break the law. Big freaking deal so you are separated for a few years cry me a river I really don’t care… If they have children – how the hell did they get children when they just came here? So you are saying that applying for citizenship you should get knocked up first and have a baby then when the gov tells you that you have to go back for a few years you are separated from your kid(s)… take your baby(ies) with no one is stopping you. Apply for US citizenship before you leave your Country and you will already know what is involved. Lets think during WWI, WWII, Vietnam, & Korea, – we have had families separated for years well over 5 years and sometimes the fathers or mothers never came back – but that is life. People get divorced all of the time… see what they are doing is trying to make sure you are not getting married just to get your citizenship. What I am saying is you make choices in life and you live with the consequences whatever they may be.
Posted by: kade | May 19, 2010, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Naye – what taxes do illegal immigrants pay and sales tax and real estate taxes don’t count. Where are they paying income taxes, fica, & ss … not unless they have stolen someone’s identity are they paying that – so clue me in….
Posted by: kade | May 19, 2010, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Looks like things haven’t changed in 60 years. I remember a group of people and a Priest told me to go back to Africa where I came from because Blacks weren’t wanted in the USA. I was playing with a school friend and I was taught to respect adults. I said I came from New Jersey and didn’t know where Africa was or even what it was at that age. My Dad explained that some Americans were racist and full of hate but used the bible as their front to harm and hurt others. After reading some of the comments on this topic it seems nothing has really changed except now the hate has moved to immigrants.
Posted by: Jackie | May 19, 2010, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Honestly, Kade or whoever you are, I dont freaking care what you think of me and my husband. He has been leaving here for more than 30 years. So sorry you are so hateful of immigrants like me. This is a matter of racism and xenophobia, that’s it. Good luck with your life and hope you, as a US citizen are in such as good position as we are. :)
Posted by: laura Ulrich | May 19, 2010, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
This child is an Anchor Baby. Take all anchor babies under 18 back with the parents. When they reach 18 they can come back and work to pay for their educations.
Posted by: Linda | May 19, 2010, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Kid was a plant. She got question wrong. Her mother told her to say Arizona is taking away people who don’t have papers, but she said Obama by mistake. Mrs. Obama had a prepared answer and that’s why she didn’t say “It’s not Obama, it’s Arizona little girl”. She thought the little girl was going to say Arizona.
Posted by: Mike | May 19, 2010, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Jackie it isn’t immigrants it is illegal immigrants… sorry you lived in a racist area.. Illegals are of all races not just one race but laws are laws either you live by the laws here as an applying immigrant or don’t come here. There are reasons we have laws – but I encourage every bleeding heart here who has a problem with the Federal immigration laws to live in Laredo Texas for a five years and get back to us after your experience. There are reasons the southern border states are asking for the military’s assistance. Oklahoma passed stricter illegal immigration laws in 2007 and guess what they are doing far better economically and employment wise.
Posted by: kade | May 19, 2010, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Anchor baby? In my day they were called American citizens.
Posted by: Candy | May 19, 2010, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
You notice the wives are working hard at getting their amnesty bill going? Kiss, Kiss. And Obama blatantly llying to our face saying there were fewer illegals coming in this last year? Riiight. Since he promised them amnesty to get elected, they have been flooding 5 fold, and demanding their amnesty. Obama is a traitor and should be mobbed out. He lied right to our face with Calderon standing by him with a “so there” look on his face. Two liars and jerks. At least people from Minnesota Ohio, Iowa, and New York will believe him, because Obama lies to them, too.
Posted by: Linda | May 19, 2010, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
laura I am not hateful toward you I am just saying you live with the choices you make in life whatever the consequences maybe – BTW how the hell was your husband living here for 30 years without getting his citizenship? It only takes 10 years. If he applied when he first got here how did it take so long and it doesn’t make sense in the fact that we had two amnesties since he has been here that he could have gotten instant citizenship. Once during Reagan and once during Clinton… so something isn’t adding up to your story.
Posted by: kade | May 19, 2010, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Every time I engage this issue I have trouble getting around the word “Illegal.” Before this Arizona law passed, I though illegal meant: not legal, unauthorized, not allowed, violation of an existing law or stature, or doing the wrong thing.
Now I suppose it means, when applying to immigration: It’s ok to enter and remain in a country without proper documentation as long as you are not committing any other “illegal” acts.
Posted by: SelmaAla | May 19, 2010, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
Get out of my country now, then come back through Ellis Island!
Posted by: Gunz2fun | May 19, 2010, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Sounds like the Border Parrol needs to start “touring” with the Obama’s.
Posted by: Is_It_November___Yet | May 19, 2010, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
@Candy unfortunately they are still called Americans, paid for by us, a gift from our social security to mom who snuck in with nothing but the clothes on her back, or just happened to be on the United States side when the child was due, so they could assure themselves a leg in and excuse for not going back to Mexico or where ever. Mostly Mexico since they are next door. Do you really think we fall for your American crap, they are anchor babies to assure public assistance, schools and a lingering stay for mama and papa. Cut the crap.
Posted by: Linda | May 19, 2010, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
As a lawful permanent resident, Kade, you can choose to apply for naturalization or not,it’s up to you. I think you are getting confused. Permanent resident and Us citizen are different status Y ou can be a permanent resident for as long as you wish to be. It’s your decision to became a Us citizen or not.
Posted by: laura Ulrich | May 19, 2010, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
I worked in a tax place before and “undocumented” immigrants use a ITIN number to claim for their taxes. It is a tax id number issued by the government to a individual. The IRS knows about it and has no problems collecting but still they don’t want to give these people a path to legal residency. It s not like they can go to the post office and fill out a application to become legal. You guys know how to use Google, do your research and stop speaking out of pure ignorance or by what your hear on tv. There is no law that provides papers to immigrants right now since 1980 other than marrying a American. And for those that say that sales taxes and real state taxes don’t count I will be more than happy to let you pay for mine since you have no problems paying it.
Posted by: wally | May 19, 2010, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Arizona Governer should be praised for finally standing up for the Americans. The children of illegals, who have been here for years, but never looked into becoming citizens. Why? They either plan of returning to their country, or did not want to become citizens. But they were not adverse to taking and expecting all the free care and hand outs for their families, and not want to get Social Security as well, which they never paid into. Why should we feel bad for them. They get more help from the government and the citizens. Government is looking out for themselves so that they will be reelected as if their jobs are careers. It is time it is stopped. Illegals here for years it is time they go home if they did not try to become citizens. Now they cry. My children are citizens, being born here. So they feel they can stay because of. Citizens do not let this happen, I feel we have had enough, we have almost lost our language, out in public or shopping I feel I have been transported to a foreign country, and quite uncomfortable, with everything we are loosing. Should be have to press 2 ??? Is this not America???? Other countries do not put up with this nonsense. Help save America
Posted by: Elaine | May 19, 2010, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
The way the question was worded it doesn’t appear that the child understood her question! Do you think it was a set-up?
Posted by: tillyerkt | May 19, 2010, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
So you guys are saying these people broke the law because they crossed the border or over stayed their visas which is also the case people; and now their children born in the U.S soil are not Americans? What is the defenition of a American then? Should we send back the sons of the Jewish because they came here on a boat during ww2 running away From genocide? Or the haitians that made boats to get here because they country is falling apart? Or Latin American people fleeing government tirany like Venezuela, Cuba and Colombia? Does it not say on the statue of libetty “Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome, cries she tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!” Should these people risk their lives for better opportunities and come here and ask us for refuge or take over the land like our ancestors the pilgrims did after slaying the natives? All these people are asking for ie for a chance to become a legal resident , but we always think of the worst case scenarios. We forget about the most important thing which is love. As our lord Jesus said ” love thy neighbours like I loved thee”.
Posted by: wally | May 19, 2010, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
its very sad to hear how people can be so ignorant. i dont understand how can we discriminate the undocumented people in this country when if its not for us, you do not have a clean bathroom. we have been raising american kids babysitting and cleaning the house at like 5 bucks the hour so like that you “LEGAL AMERICANS” can move on with life and go to college or presume your potential life. Legal Americans haha how funny is that. hasnt anyone looked back at this country’s own history?? as long I have remembered, there is a huge emphasis that this country did not constitute as the perfect nation with people who have blue eyes and blong hair, no this was composed by the native americans, from who we decend from too. so whose nation is this really??? if things in out country was the color of a rainbow we wouldnt be here but before u judge its good to change the lense of which u judge with and look at the big picture. not only at the fact that there are negative things coming from these people who work their asses off to find a properous life that seems so hard to reach.
Posted by: Marta | May 19, 2010, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
You know I find it so hypicritical of everyone. I mean seriously are we not all immigrants to this country? America never belonged to us, but to the Native Americans. I’m guessing we all know our history and from the very start this country never belonged to us, whether it be white, blacks, asians or hispanics. It belonged to the Native Americans. If you really think about it and not be so shallow minded thats the thing about us Americans we always try to take over, and the thing is, why do we talk and say what we say when really we have no right to say it at all?
Posted by: Kay | May 19, 2010, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
I’m 16 years old&my parents are/were illegal immigrants(I say were because one of my parents is dead)&I really don’t consider myself an anchor baby thank you. All your ignorant comments are hurtful but of course us anchor babies and illegal immigrants aren’t really worthy of being in this country right? You people should all be ashamed of the way your racist remarks are hurting people. Before you say anything like this you should all check the background of these immigrants and “anchor babies” as you like to call us. I’d like to think that someday I’m gonna be a wonderful teacher and make my parents proud. Oh but that’s right some of you think that since I’m an anchor baby I’m not really worthy of getting my education here right? I can’t believe that such ignorance can exist in THIS country. So to all you “mature” adults STOP being so ignorant! You are such hurtful and hateful people. All your words are the most spiteful thing I have ever read. Hope some day your ignorance gets fixed soon. God Bless, Hope My Words Really Make You Think Sky
Posted by: Sky | May 19, 2010, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
I totally agree with Wally about how ignorant some people here are. They believe they can make their opinions and they don’t have any idea about what they are talking about. As you said, people here, google it! For the lazy ones here is the website: ####
Please be informed before you comment. Thanks.
And for Elaine: many immigrants speak 3 languages and are very well educated. Most of them they speak better english than many americans here struggling to read and write their own language.
Posted by: laura Ulrich | May 19, 2010, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
The word is “ILLEGAL” not immigrant. Get out of this country and come back the way our immigrant grandparents did legally.
Posted by: tina | May 19, 2010, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Wally that is funny because I know people now that came here as a family that are applying for citizenship and no they weren’t told to go back or marry a US Citizen to get it… I also lived with an illegal from Israel in Los Angeles she had used someone else’s SS number to get a car, go to the hospital, get utilities, and a cell phone. She didn’t even bother to pay the bills when they came in even though she had plenty of money in the bank. When she worked she was paid under the table and cash. I asked her where she got her SS number she says its easy they sell identities all over LA… I copied all of the fraud she was committing and turned her in to INS. IRS issues ITINs to foreign nationals and others who have federal tax reporting or filing requirements and do not qualify for SSNs. A non-resident alien individual not eligible for a SSN, who is required to file a U.S. tax return only to claim a refund of tax under the provisions of a U.S. tax treaty, needs an ITIN. These are people that are sponsored to be here working and have work VISAs.. we are talking about illegals…. they work under the table or steal someones SS…
Posted by: kade | May 19, 2010, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Sky sorry for your sad story, There seems to be a million of them. The fact is, your parents did you wrong, not the United states or the ‘hurtful’ adults. Go ahead and enjoy all we have given you, but if your parents weren’t here legally you are an anchor baby, born here on purpose, so they could stay. Mexico owes you big, if their citizens were treated right you wouldn’t have such a sad story. You sound like a Mexican person who always gets on these streams and cries over how mean we are. Sorry, I don’t think you are Sky or 16.
Posted by: Linda | May 19, 2010, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
This was a set up.The OBAMA’s don’t want to look stupid in front of America. Thats why OBAMA selects the reporters and knows what the questions are in advance in his televised appearances so someone else can make up the answer for him before he gets on television and then uses a teleprompter
because he has no idea otherwise.He doesn’t want to be caught off guard by others and not be able to answer a question..He didn’t know and still doesn’t know how to run the country (he doesn’t make the decisions on his own, congress and everyone else is the main deciders, who are you tryin to fool OBAMA?)omly to bring it down to nothing like all the other countries.
Posted by: english tearose | May 19, 2010, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
Marta,
Based on YOUR logic, as long as the perps perform a public service, then their crimes should be ignored.
I guess OJ Simpson should never have been tried for murder, since he’s been in sports and in the movies and entertained us.. he gets a pass.
Roman Polanski has created great movies, so he should never be tried for rape… he gets a pass…
Michael Jackson invented the “mon walk,” so he should never have been tried for sleeping with little boys, and then paying them off to avoid their testimony, so he gets a pass..
Where does all of this end? Sounds like we can dispense with our legal system, and our laws, and just have trials by public opinion. We don’t like you, we vote you out of the country.
Posted by: Is_It_November___Yet | May 19, 2010, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
How touching, a staged moment for the cameras that was designed to pull at our heart strings…it’s not working! We are tired of paying for the schooling, healthcare and criminal justice-related costs of illegals. Sure she was cute but based on the limited information provided, her mother is ILLEGAL. The travesty is that we allow children of illegals to become citizens. They are all illegal and we should reciprocate with Mexico – we should adopt their laws on illegal immigration and deport each and every one who is here illegally. Oh yeah, in Mexico they incarcerate and fine “undocumented foriegners”.
Posted by: JZ | May 19, 2010, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Sky – if you are 16 then again where the hell were your parents during Clinton’s amnesty? That was within your lifetime…. but an unlawful act doesn’t excuse anything.
Posted by: kade | May 19, 2010, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
One more thing, I am a white male, born and raised in the United States. Don’t tell me that only Mexicans will perform lower-skilled jobs. Over my lifetime I have cleaned toilets, cut grass, dug up old sewer lines, installed underground cable by manually turning a huge cable on the front of a tiller, painted, pulled weeds, unloaded trucks and other related “low skill” jobs. Prior to becoming educated I did what I had to do to improve myself as others do every day. You don’t have to have darker skin than mine to perform hard work!
Posted by: JZ | May 19, 2010, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
ITIN numbers, it would be interesting to see the percentage of people who really get them. Probably just enough so Mexicans can clam they ALL pay taxes.
Am I correct in that they don’t file, they just get a smaller paycheck, so the employer can pay the taxes on these workers? Thats what one Mexican advocate claimed, also they are for sponsored illegals not free-runners.
And laura that string you gave to look up goes to a government sight that has nothing to do with ITIN numbers. FRAUD, typical.
Posted by: Linda | May 19, 2010, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
marta, sky, and kay, please dispense with the “we’re all immigrants” stuff and that this country belonged to the Native Americans canard. (curiously, I wonder who owned before the Native Americans, how do we know they didn’t run or conquer some other race?). Those arguments are useless and mean nothing now that we are a country of laws.
Not wanting illegal immigrants in our contry does not make us racist (and its not like that charge has any credence anymore anyway).
sky, instead of complaining about your situation, you should be thankful for the opportunity afforded you through a loophole in our immigration/citizenship laws.
Posted by: J.R. | May 19, 2010, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Linda, can you really read? The website is about immigration laws. Maybe what you are claiming to be fraud, is it actually the website for Homeland Security , lool, really you are an ignorant…
Posted by: laura Ulrich | May 19, 2010, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
Thanks JZ,so true. There are millions after millions of Americans who did and are still doing those jobs we just don’t complain. Mexicans are crying they do all the jobs we don’t want to do and only get base wages. Welcome to the rest the world! If they don’t like doing those jobs they complain about it all the time, then go home. We didn’t ask you here, you come because you want what we have.
Posted by: Linda | May 19, 2010, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
OK Laura what is your beef did you apply to be a citizen or a National? Nothing in your story adds up – you were saying you were sent back to your country for a few years because you were applying for your citizenship and you had to leave your husband who wasn’t a citizen yet but had been here for 30 years with 4 children from a previous marriage – even though he had been through two amnesties and could have been easily granted citizenship within those 30 years – you come up with some other excuse – did you or he apply to be a permanent resident or a US Citizen? Either way the 30 years thing blows away any excuse for either.
Posted by: kade | May 19, 2010, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
I’ve come to believe that there is a private competition amongst an unholy Whitehouse triumvirate: to flub the easiest situation possible. This latest move puts MO way ahead (or under) either BO or Biden. For now at least. Stay tuned if you can stand it.
Posted by: Beowulf3 | May 19, 2010, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
And I wanted to say something about those job’s that we won’t do. In Canada do you know why we won’t ” those ” job’s ? because they won’t hire us, they will put
an ad in the paper as required by law, you will interview, but they won’t hire you. They will say no Canadians applied and so then they get to hire Mexicans in cooperation with the Mexican Govt.
It’s a huge open scam, at least in Canada…
Posted by: Mike Dale | May 19, 2010, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
So, why doesn’t that child, or Mrs. Obama demand that Mrs. Calderon explain why she and her husband refuse to raise taxes on the large and thriving Mexican middle class, and wealthy, to provide more services to Mexico’s poor, instead of demanding the displacement of US citizen workers, and the unsustainable tax increases on the US citizenry, whose jobs are being bled away? We have tent cities all across the US, poverty homelessness. Mexico is the 12th wealthiest country in the world, the 4th largest oil producing nation, they have NO national debt, but we have to borrow to provide “aid” to wealthy Mexico.
Face it, the only ones being discriminated against, are US citizens, who happen to be black, brown and white. OH, I am one of those indigenous Americans, whose history illegal aliens and their supporters like to exploit and hide behind. Illegals are NOT indigenous, they are Hispanic, and that translates to European. Brown skin does not make one indigenous, anyone who thinks that is ignorant and racist. If you’ve ever been to Spain or Portugal, you pick up pretty quick that large portions of the populations there are dark skinned. Indigenous bone structure, their hair is very distinguishable from that of Hispanics.
If Mr. Tapper cares so much, he needs to start firing hard questions at both Obamas, for example, why they have refused to address the economic realities faced by US citizens, their displacement, how we do not have a worker or skills shortage of any kind (proven by Dr. George Borjas, Kennedy School of Govt @ Harvard \also asking why they are bringing in 190,000 foreign workers each month through the exploitation of our visa programs. I’m damned fed up with the softball questions these corrupt scam artists are getting.
Posted by: Jenny | May 19, 2010, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
I hate staged , fake questions it’s really pathetic. In Mexico a non citizen cannot even own property so come on….
Posted by: Tony | May 19, 2010, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
Well kay if you want to get down to it, the Native Americans did not exactly pop out of soil did they? No they came from someplace else, because this is not or has it even begin considered the cradle of civilation.
Posted by: plopsdad | May 19, 2010, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
It’s okay, Auntie Zeituni didn’t have her papers either. But now she does, along with free housing and health care.
Posted by: jeanette | May 20, 2010, 12:22 am 12:22 am
It’s okay, Auntie Zeituni didn’t have her papers either. But now she does, along with free housing and health care.
Posted by: jeanette | May 20, 2010 12:22:07 AM
She has had free housing all along, as well a numerous other tax-payer funded amenities.. including a free hip replacement….
It is good to live in America, no?
Posted by: Quo Warranto? | May 20, 2010, 1:53 am 1:53 am
What ever happened to Love Thy Neighbor.
Jesus said love is the greatest gift not follow manmade rules and lines on earth.
All human should have the right to work
(to work we need a social security card)
The greatest terrorist are home born americans like Tim Mcvey and the guy who went to Pakistan to train and set a bomb in New York. How many terrorists have come from Mexico, Central and South
America? 99 % of immigrants are just trying to survive and make a living.
Come on Haters and let people work to support their families.
Posted by: Jimmy | May 20, 2010, 3:19 am 3:19 am
I thought our country was a Christian loving nation not full of haters like Nazi Germany.
Posted by: Jimmy | May 20, 2010, 3:21 am 3:21 am
Is someone a criminal if they try and support their family the best they can. It is time to get rid of Country lines and solve world problems. Beside how many people have been killed fighting for country lines and pride. Millions in
World Wars. Come on People. People before country manmade lines.
Posted by: Jimmy | May 20, 2010, 3:23 am 3:23 am
mexicans aint the problem be glad when america wakes up we give give give money to other illegals to come over here to go to our colleges and yes they here waiting for theire papers like mexicans
mexicans only work might be at a lower pay range but work only
others are taking over everything else they kill us taking over all our motels stores doctorings plus they hate being here
the canadian border is worse its easier to come in
if you ask me need to check palin and familey
Posted by: william | May 20, 2010, 3:43 am 3:43 am
Can anybody say “rigged”. Exploiting a child this way is despicable.
The only thing “broken” about the immigration system is that Obama refuses to enforce the existing laws and will not secure the border.
The feds know that 7.5 million illegals are using stolen IDs and they know who they are. They could easily cross reference those stolen SSNs to find out who the rightful owners are and then notify and help them. They don’t and they probably won’t.
Obama could care less about the victims of identity theft by illegal alien criminals.
Let’s recap. 7.5 million of the estimated 12 million illegals are committing at least one felony (identity theft) in addition to illegal entry. These criminals have already proven they can never be citizens here.
Posted by: paul | May 20, 2010, 5:49 am 5:49 am
The proper response should have been – we will meet with your mother and if she is here legally we will make sure your mother has the appropriate papers.
But instead we try and cover up the truth. All illegal immigrants are criminals by the very word “illegal” – the law should take over from there.
Now you have the president and his spouse using children as a shield and weapon in an attempt to influence the public.
Next thing you know we will have drug dealers, rapist, murderers on the tube with their children saying are we going to take their parents away!!
The answer should be ‘yes’.
Posted by: bashinnc | May 20, 2010, 7:26 am 7:26 am
Not only are illegal immigrants’ children getting free education, they are getting in-state rates at most colleges without proof of anything. YOU try doing that!
Go back, come in legally, and I have no problem with immigration. But don’t come in at the start breaking our laws and then claiming your ‘rights’!
Posted by: Mary Smith | May 20, 2010, 7:34 am 7:34 am
Why don’t we just abolish all Immigration Laws? There is no reason to have them if we aren’t going to enforce them. We’ve had this problem for years and we have granted “Amnesty” to those who were here illegally and said that no more would we do that. Here we are again with about 20 million more “Illegals”. If we are going to have the laws, enforce them. If we aren’t going to enforce the laws, abolich them and save the money we waste going through the motions!
Posted by: John Looper | May 20, 2010, 8:03 am 8:03 am
What a crock of crap. So she is a child, sounds like she is an attempted activist too. Her “mother” needs to get the hell out of my country. The so called first lady should have said. “well, little girl that is why we have to revoke the anchor baby bull. So you can be deported real easy with your mother.” So she is crying about her mother, while she is living off the backs of CITIZENS and going to MY school
Posted by: liken | May 20, 2010, 8:05 am 8:05 am
Wow, it is amazing that on the day that the Mexican president and his wife our visiting that Michelle Obama gets asked this question. The same day the Mexican President comes into our country and complains about a State law. Not a coincidence at all….
This was a set up. And as far as “tough” questions go, I find it not tough at all. Michelle’s answer however was a bunch of crap.
Something like, “Yes, honey, we expect people to actually get proper legal papers before you enter the US.” (all the while wondering why someone would bring a child who was here illigally to see the Presidents Wife speak. Didn’t they even pre-screen this group before they brought them….Oh wait, they probably did! )
Posted by: LindaK | May 20, 2010, 8:42 am 8:42 am
Let’s predate the immigration issue. What did the two Bushes do about the immigration problem, the Clintons? Every and all unfinished business is now on the President’s plate and the new ‘tea party’ is now, not then, the loudest. hmmmm…something is wrong with this picture. WARS, ECONOMY,IMMIGRATION, JOBS, HOUSING FORECLOSURES,DEFICIT, HEALTH CARE, ENERGY, EDUCATION, PARTISAN POLITICS, OIL SPILLS, TERRORISTS, OSAMA? Did any problems get resolved the past eight years or before? Texas is changing the ugliest parts of history like slavery. Why?
Posted by: stormy lady | May 20, 2010, 8:43 am 8:43 am
The girl was a “plant”. This was a fabricated exchange arranged by school and White House. What a crock of crap.
Posted by: justice fleeting | May 20, 2010, 8:45 am 8:45 am
I want to know why they wasted more jet fuel and flew to Maryland instead of going to her daughters school??
Posted by: kaymar | May 20, 2010, 8:50 am 8:50 am
All they wanted to do is provide for their families. Better schools, jobs, and opportunity that their country do not have to offer. It’s not their fault they were born in that situation, but they want to make life better for their children and next generations to come is that a crime? We have American born citizen here doing nothing for themselves, but living off the government and who’s pays for that? We are; I rather help someone that trying to help themselves then someone that enjoys living off the system.
Posted by: kk2003 | May 20, 2010, 8:51 am 8:51 am
Some of the posters here are incredibly racist and, quite frankly, stupid.
I propose we let all honest and hardworking immigrants in and kick all the aforementioned posters out.
That’s the America I want.
Posted by: LCC | May 20, 2010, 8:53 am 8:53 am
“That’s the America I want.” – LCC
That’s understandable LCC.
Good thing for you it already exists.
It’s called South America.
Go for it!
Posted by: Noz | May 20, 2010, 8:58 am 8:58 am
It is an unfortunate fact, but the real problem is that the Democrats do not want to get rid of the illegal criminals. Those illegal criminals, once given the right to vote, will all vote for the Democrats. That is the real root of the problem. Instead of getting rid of the criminals, the Democrats want to turn them into voters. It is all about power.
Posted by: Robert Moore | May 20, 2010, 9:09 am 9:09 am
Mrs Obama is human and human feelings runs through her veins.There is no answer that she could have given at that point that will not be thouroughly and politically annalised.Be it illegal or legall immigrant, no child deserve to be handed such a devastating answer of ” yes we are going to your house to get your mom and deport her because you just told me and the whole world watching that your mom does not have a legall paper”.Such will truamatise any adult talk less a child.Please, find other matters of critisism to pin on Mrs Obama because am sure you have plenty.
Posted by: Tonto | May 20, 2010, 9:13 am 9:13 am
Once again, what Michelle should have said as a proud american first lady mom.
Don’t worry, the US government will not separate you from your mother. If she indeed doesn’t have the right papers to be here then she will need to apply for them. If that means she needs to go back to her country then she’ll take you with her and your mother can then apply to come to America legally.
Posted by: Noz | May 20, 2010, 9:24 am 9:24 am
Can anyone name another advanced nation that has open borders with the immigration laws not being enforced. Mexico certainly doesn’t! And isn’t ironic that the Mexican first lady goes to a school in an area where there is a very large illegal immigrant population. A school system that takes in children whose parents are here illegally and educates them gratis with no questions asked. Where many of these illegal aliens have fled their dismal home country of Mexico knowingly crossing the border illegally with the blessing of the Mexican government because that is one less family that their country doesn’t have to provide an education to children or drain money from the Mexican gov’t for services. No, it’s not this lovely childs fault. It’s the Mexican and the U.S. Govts fault for turning a blind eye and not dealing with the issues and then letting the US taxpayer bear the burden! Ands when the US taxpayers bearing the burden dare ask questions or demand answers they are labeled racists!
Posted by: VADAVE | May 20, 2010, 9:38 am 9:38 am
kk2003, I’m all for anyone who wants to come to this country. They want to provide for their families. They want to better their situation. I welcome them with open arms. They only catch? They have to do it the right way.
Does your bank want you to come to their office, take out a loan, and buy a home? Of course they do! You just have to apply for it. They’re not trying to deter you from bettering yourself. But there’s a procedure to follow. If you walk into the bank, take the money and buy a house without the papers, it’s called stealing, and it’s illegal.
Same with the immigrants. We’d love to have them here. We want them to be able to vote. Let their children learn in American schools. Have better jobs. But there’s procedure.
My great-grandparents on my grandfather’s side came here during the great immigration rush at the turn of the last century to escape oppression in Odessa, Russia. No one stopped them from wanting to be here. But they still had to register. Still had to obtain citizenship.
We are still the land of opportunity. If you want to come here and be a law abiding citizen…. then WELCOME!
Posted by: ashley | May 20, 2010, 9:40 am 9:40 am
“Is someone a criminal if they try and support their family the best they can.”
To answer that assinine question…yes. If someone is breaking the law to do it they are a criminal no matter what the motivation. If a US citizen loses their job and home and turns to crime to survive or feed their family and get caught, they will go to jail. Shall we excuse everyone that has a “good reason” for committing a crime? If you want to live border-free, may i suggest you do it in another country and stay out of the US. Or better yet, invite an illegal alien and their extended family to move in with you and foot the bill. I’m tired of paying for them. This girl’s mother should have been visited by US Immigration right after her daughter said she had no papers. See, it isn’t so hard to find them, the administration just doesn’t want to.
Posted by: HadEnough | May 20, 2010, 9:44 am 9:44 am
KK2003 posted a comment about, all they wanted was to have better jobs and schools for their kids and blah, blah, blah. Well if I go out and rob a bank or something, I can just say well all i wanted was to pay my bills and past taxes that I owe and blah, wah, wah, this dont make it justifiable. If you break the law by comeng here illegally then you already have no regard for our laws, whats next for you, DWI, rape, child molestation, murder, ( because after you kill someone you ll just high tail back across the river and they will never get you anyway )NO ACCOUNTABILITY for these people. Thats freaking scarey, thats what we should be talking about.
Posted by: Eddie | May 20, 2010, 9:47 am 9:47 am
Norma,
I don’t know where you got that idea from. My father, a union worker, has been unemployed over a year. He works one of the dirtiest jobs I know of. He’s an elevator mechanic. It’s one of the most dangerous professions in the country.
My mom was a waitress, until she got laid off.
My brother changes tires.
Don’t tell me they’re taking all the jobs “we don’t want.”
My parents would be happy for any job right now. My brother got a job changing tires because he wanted something better than the busboy job he had. (Not that being a busboy is bad, but the boss wanted him to walk his dogs, too. They didn’t get along well.)
Posted by: ashley | May 20, 2010, 9:56 am 9:56 am
kk2003 if you want to help the illegal immigran, please do so but in there their country.
Ilegal immigration did not start January 2008. It has been going on for years until both parties leadership. We can either sit back and point fingers or roll up our sleeves and come up with a solution or allow people that are not even citizens control what happens.
I am not sure about you but I will not allow an “univited guest” to take over my home. I would deny them access to my money(welfare, food stamps, SSI,etc), my house(subsidized housing)my school and would even thnk about taking them to work with me, and would not even think about allowing them to become a member of my family without checking them out.It would be on my terms, not theirs. I would not allow them to break up my family(CA against AZ, providing santuary to invaders)
The illegals are making a mockery out of us just like China. We complain about not having jobs but we support the very companies that are outsourcing jobs.
And we are suppose to smart people.
Posted by: Dot | May 20, 2010, 9:57 am 9:57 am
It’s sad that her mother’s criminal act has made her life uncertain.
Since there is a way to legally immigrate to this country, that should have been an avenue that her mother explored.
Instead, this girl is getting an education paid for by taxpayers–a group of people that her family has opted not to belong to–though they reap all of the benefits. An American kid probably couldn’t get into that school because it was full. And their parents pay taxes! What a great country!
This little manipulated media event served no purpose but to put the ILLEGAL immigration blame where it lies (not just immigration–ILLEGAL immigration-difference).
Kudos to Michelle that all but said “then your mother needs to get her papers in order to stay here”
The illegal immigrant that sucks from the taxpayer funded system. And those that employ them.
We should all stop paying taxes. And following laws. Why bother? Oh that’s right, those special exemptions are only for Central American Spanish Speaking ILLEGAL immigrants.
Posted by: Blarfinghar | May 20, 2010, 10:00 am 10:00 am
People, please look at the cause: NAFTA, NAFTA, NAFTA, NAFTA, NAFTA!!!!!! This was Bush 1 and Clinton. CAFTA was Bush 2. It is American foreign and economic policy that created the flood of undocumented immigrants.
Posted by: Vincent | May 20, 2010, 10:06 am 10:06 am
Ashley,
I am not speaking for all the citizens but the majority you know that it is true. I understand that yes there are some people out there that will work the dirty jobs but honestly who works out in the sun and does other tough jobs that others will not. There are citizens that are in prison for raping, killing and drugs that are living a better life that some people out here. They get three meals, gym equipment and alot of other commodities. Who pays for that we do???
Posted by: Norma | May 20, 2010, 10:08 am 10:08 am
O for goodness sake!!! “Draining our economy” cr*p again just to defend urge to discriminate!!! Grab your keyboard, flip it over, read where its made and there you go there is a reason for our economic crisis !!! There is no limits to human stupidity indeed!!!
Large amount of manufacturing jobs were outsourced to counties like China, Pakistan, India ect. All left for us is fast food cr*ap jobs and SOME customer service. You can’t build strong economy on those kind of jobs. We need our jobs to be brought back from overseas rather then penny pinch about some little kid getting free schooling. Big corporations feeding you all this propaganda and you buying it.
I’m a legal immigrant and now a US citizen. It took me 10 years to come to this country going only God knows through what back in my birth country trying to survive hunger and war. I should be bitter about illegals just crossing the border and able to find a peace. But I’m not!!! I can see what the real problem is and its not a poor guy standing there on the side of Home Depot hoping to earn couple of bucks to feed his family. Go thru your house flip over items that you own such as furniture, computers,hardware, tools, pot and pants mostly all of your belongings including clothes on your back made in China or somewhere else overseas. How can you ignore that!!! Your jobs weren’t taking by illegals, they were taking by big corporations that don’t want to pay taxes or worker’s compensation or fair american level wages.
Forget the illegal guy that picks up those dirty backbreaking jobs nobody else wants to do. Kick some corporate butt for selling out our country for a quick buck. But of course to stand against powerful guy takes lots of effort. Who wants to fight their lawyers, our congress, force them to change laws about outsourcing. Forget that, lets just build a wall and pretend that all illegals come strictly from Mexico and call a day!!!
Posted by: SoCalTaurus | May 20, 2010, 10:12 am 10:12 am
I have no sympathy for that child or her mother. I am a military retiree whose son was born overseas to a foreign mother. My son is trying enter the service and had to produce a birth certificate, a passport, and his certificate of citizenship to follow in my footsteps. If he was born in the USA from parents here illegally, all he would need is a bith certificate; ironic isn’t it?
Posted by: M. Majors | May 20, 2010, 10:12 am 10:12 am
Norma,
All the more proof that we need prison reform.
Once again, I have nothing against immigrants. I’m a product of immigration (About 4 generations ago.)
It’s *illegal* immigration I have a problem with.
One of my coworkers is from Mozambique. She’s here legally. My boss is from Nigeria. My Sunday School teacher (and one of my best friends) is from Peru. All here legally. All wonderful law abiding citizens. And I’m happy to have them all here.
Posted by: ashley | May 20, 2010, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Well sorry for you m. major. Maybe now you and your family now that you have to suffer a little to accomplish something that you really want. All they want is to make a better life for their families. Prisoners have a better life than we do. What do you think about that?
Posted by: Norma | May 20, 2010, 10:17 am 10:17 am
My father is a naturalized US citizen and my mother a legal resident so I completely agree with being in this country the legal way.
My problem is that people always associate “illegal alien” with Mexicans or Hispanics. There are other people from different non-Hispanic countries who enter this country with a visiting Visa and never go back home. However, no one ever seems to be complaining about them. If yall are going to be blaming illegal aliens for crimes and living off our tax dollars, then you should remember there are Asians, Middle-Easterns and others here in this country illegally, not just Hispanics…
Posted by: BM | May 20, 2010, 10:18 am 10:18 am
Ashley, well sorry for you but no matter what they try to do the illegals as you call them will not stop crossing the border. So why not find a solution to this problem and the ones that want to be here to work and dont have a criminal background why not try and help them???
Posted by: Norma | May 20, 2010, 10:19 am 10:19 am
Wow any of this people dont have a clue of american history this land was founder by INDIANS!!.People are complaining about illegal immigration but i dont see them complaining about legal people who are living OFF our system who are sitting at home without doing anything and what benefit are u talking about the only thing this people get is free school other than that they dont get health insurance and they do work doing anything for a low low pay.like the accident with times squares he was LEGAL WHAT ABOUT THEM PEOPLE THAT DAMAGING THIS COUNTRY ARE HERE LEGALLY AND NOONE IS COMPLANING AND white people that are child molester child abuser are going away from america to do escape The law.children are taking away from their parents what kind of psycho people with no heart are u.People are inhumane.The only thing this people want is to escape poberty and injustice.this land was immigrants our history is full of IMMIGRANTS
Posted by: Lorena | May 20, 2010, 10:22 am 10:22 am
@Robert Moore
“It’s called South America.
Go for it!” – Robert Moore
Educate yourself before making such comments. Is that the education you’re so proud of? Is that the “great” education you complain the children of immigrants get for “free” (they work their asses off BTW)?
So, FYI: Mexico is North America!!! Then, there is Central America (Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, etc), and then South America (Colombia, Brazil, Argentina, etc).
Posted by: nancy | May 20, 2010, 10:24 am 10:24 am
KUDOS TO LORENA! I totally agree with you! But the leagals from here do not see all the citizens that are on welfare programs. Have you all not seen the news lately about all the citizens receving assistance from the government. They do not even have enough workers to complete all those applications. And those people are the ones from here that do not want to work and live off the government!!!
Posted by: Norma | May 20, 2010, 10:26 am 10:26 am
It’s amazing that we as Americans only believe that Mexicans are here illegally. There are other nationalities and groups of people who are in this country illegally yet no one seems to protest a white, blonde, blue-eyed illegal immigrant (by the way, there are Mexicans and other people of hispanic origin that fit this discription). I am in favor of resolving this issue. I believe the first step is to treat all incoming illegal immigrants equally. Unlike the people who make their way across the US and Mexican border Cubans arrive onto our Florida shores (ILLEGALY, usually smuggled by speed boats by other Cuban-Americans) and are immediately processed and allowed to join their families and never branded as illegal immigrants. If a Mexican or other immigrant person attempted to reach our shores in the same manner they would be detained and shipped back to their country–if this is the standard then we should apply it to all groups.
As for illegal immigrants taking our jobs, let’s be frank with ourselves America..how many of us are lining up to clean other people’s houses, pick crops from the fields, mow people’s lawns, etc? I don’t believe too many of us have much of an interest in doing such hard physical labor for a living. Instead we should worry of the legal immigrants that are taking our jobs. Walk onto any University or college campus research laboratory and the majority of people employed by these instituions are not American citizens (naturalized or born) no, the majority are LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. There’s is nothing wrong with legal immigrants holding positions and jobs within our country–but THESE are the people we are competing with in the workforce. The argument that illegal immigrants are a financial burden to all of us tax paying citizens; yes that is true but so are the millions of uninsured Americans. Then there is the issue of seperating illegal immigrant parents from their legally born American children. My sense is that most Americans are in favor of shipping an American citizen off to a foreign country. Fantastic, we should round up other American citizens as well and do the same; if it’s fair for one group of American citizens why not for others? The complexity of this issue is what makes the immigration problem so difficult to handle. But we as a nation do not want to face this and resolve the problem. Instead we choose to use immigrant groups as a scapegoat for our own shortcomings and problems. If the solution is to deport all illegal immigrants, then my American friends we better ALL start packing because whether you were born in this great nation or came here legally and have now become a naturalized US citizen–we are all here illegally. This country was taken by force from the Native American Indians. We imposed OUR laws. Not much different from what we are accusing illegal immigrants are doing to our country; except of course we call ourselves Americans.
Posted by: FloridaGirl | May 20, 2010, 10:26 am 10:26 am
We’re all immigrants. The only real people that are from here are the Native Americans, I bet you didn’t say much when your ancestors came and took over their land huh? What really gives you the right to be here? You still have to pay for taxes no matter what… what makes you think you’re only paying for illegal immigrats. You’re also paying for your homeless peers. Send all your unemployed relatives to go work at the fields. I’m sure there is plenty of jobs available there, unless you can’t hadle the job…
Posted by: orale | May 20, 2010, 10:30 am 10:30 am
Norma,
1. How am I supposed to know if they don’t have a criminal background if they don’t register to come into this country in the first place? They could be fugitives from their own country for all we know.
2. By coming into this county *illegally* they are already criminals.
3. We didn’t *always* have this problem. We had stricter laws enforced in the immigration department. We’ve let our laws get lax in the last 40 years or so.
4. I do help them. I pay tax money to the federal government to provide citizenship classes, to provide ESOL classes. I vote for laws that uphold the right for any person of foreign birth to come to this country legally. I pay taxes that will help put their children through school. I help them. But I *refuse* to baby them just because they came from somewhere else. If my great great grandparents had to go through the entire citizenship rigmarole to get here in 1901 from a country where they watched their home burn to the ground during a revolution, then so does everyone else. They worked to get here legally. And for these people to sneak across the border, enjoy the benefits of citizenship, and pretend to be “law abiding citizens” is a slap in the face to my ancestors, and every other honest person who came to this country properly.
Posted by: ashley | May 20, 2010, 10:31 am 10:31 am
One third of America now speaks Spanish as a FIRST language. This is wrong! I resent having to press 1 to hear a recorded message in English. I resent seeing consumer product labels printed in both English AND Spanish. Why are we making it easy for these illegal invaders to live here? Either speak our language or don’t come here!
Why is our federal government is not concerned with the epidemic of illegal Hispanics crossing our borders and occupying our lands?
Why is it that the Immigration Department is not raiding these rallies protesting immigration rights and the new Arizona law? Seems to me a perfect place to start thinning the heard. DUH!!!
Why is it that these illegal invaders can’t just go thru the usual and lawful process of immigrating to the US? Why is it that they feel like they are entitled to come here without respecting our laws? I have never liked line butters and that is exactly what these people are doing. They are butting in at the head of the immigration line to move here, rather than waiting their turn.
Why is it that those of us who take an anti-immigration stance are labeled as racist? Mexico is a nation. Mexicans are not a race, they are citizens of Mexico.
If these people labeling us as racists would stop to ask, I think that they would find that it isn’t just Hispanics, but we are against anyone moving here illegally! That is ANYONE from ANY OTHER COUNTRY! This is not being racist! This is just demanding that our laws are respected, obeyed and enforced!
Why are we racists just because we want these morons to comply with our laws, like they are supposed to?
Why are we racists because we want to see people who break our laws deported and thrown in prison for a second offense? Entering the US illegally is breaking our laws. Upon entering the US, these people these people have already broken our laws. So, why should they garner our support? I wonder if those supporting illegal immigrants are also supporting child molesters? After all, they are both criminals!
Why is it that the US government is not doing more to locate and prosecute those who aid and enable illegal aliens? Why are they not being hunted down and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law?
Now that we can see Arizona’s new law causing thousands of illegals to leave the state, why is it that MORE states don’t follow suit? Why doesn’t the federal government enact Arizona’s law nationally? Hey, if it works………
Why is it that so many people believe the propaganda that immigrants only work as migrant farm laborers or domestic help? The truth couldn’t be more distorted! These people are taking jobs in the US as truck drivers, factory help, administrative/clerical help, and many other jobs that middle class America relies upon to support their families. High school kids can no longer find jobs, as these illegals have stolen them.
Big business is simply hiring bilinguals to supervise the Hispanic speaking illegals and give them instructions. Bilingual HR people are preparing documents in Spanish. Benefits companies are printing their documentation in Spanish and English.
Corporate America is only too eager to give these illegal invaders YOUR JOB, and sponsor them for citizenship. Why? Because they are trying to drive down the wages paid for these jobs. They are trying to force Americans to accept less money because of the competition from illegal Hispanics! Can you afford a pay cut because an illegal is willing to do your job for less money? I can’t!!!
This issue goes way beyond just human rights. It has become a matter of preserving the rights of tax paying, hard working American people! People like you and me are suffering because our government is allowing these people to live illegally in our nation. Well, ask yourself, who owns our elected officials? Big business!
These are the people conspiring to allow illegal Mexican invaders into our nation. They are wolves hiding inside human rights clothing. Don’t let them fool you any more. Demand today that your representative fight illegal immigration and send these illegal invaders home or to a US prison now! Be sure to remind him that there are more of us hard working Americans out there than big business supporters and until things change, they work for us!
Their is a claim that without illegal immigrant labor, the price of fresh vegetables will sky rocket. My solution for this is for the US government to pay a subsidy to these farmers, using some of the money that currently funds our “war” against illegal immigration. If it is impossible for them to find jobs, then there is no more reason for them to come here.
Follow that up by increasing the penalty for those employing illegals to a mandatory 20 year prison sentence. Also, start fingerprinting any illegal caught and returned. If they are caught a second time, throw them in prison for 20 years. Why allow the merry go round cycle to perpetuate itself? One strike is all you get, then you are sent to prison to be Bubba’s new “BFF”!
Come on, bleeding hearts, use your heads for something more than a hat rack! The moment these illegals cross our borders, they are showing disrespect for our country, our citizens and our laws. These people don’t deserve rights. They are criminals! CRIMINALS! Only US citizens have rights. If they want rights, let them go thru proper channels and work to become a citizen. They have to earn it, not have it handed to them!
Posted by: Gerry Nason | May 20, 2010, 10:36 am 10:36 am
I have no problem with people coming here legally. I do, however, have a problem with people who don’t go through the proper channels, who sneak in, and then say “it isn’t fair” when we want to enforce the law because they are “honest, hard working” people. They may be hard working, BUT if they are here illegally, then they have broken the law to get into the country, and they are not honest – they are lawbreakers and thus, criminals. Furthermore, if we do not enforce our immigration laws, then that sends the message that our laws are not worth the paper they are printed on because we don’t enforce them anyway. It encourages the riff raff from other countries to sneak on in and do whatever they want to. It is not fair to people who are legitimate citizens of this country either because you know that if an American were to break the law, they would be held responsible. These people from other countries who sneak in here illegally have no regard for our laws whatsoever and, therefore, I believe they have no respect for our country or those of us who were born here and those who came here legally. I realize a lot of people who sneak in are in a bad position and I feel sorry for them, but if they are honest as so many of them say and if they have any regard for this country, they will do it legally. Our representatives are not doing their jobs either by trying to keep the illegals happy rather than serving the true American people by enforcing the law. Also, I fail to see why we care whether or not we make the president of Mexico mad. If he had any ethics, he’d be helping us to crack down on the illegals as well.
Posted by: LindaP | May 20, 2010, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Immigration is great for America.
ILLEGAL immigration is illegal and therefore not.
This child’s mother should be deported rather than enjoying taxpayer funded services (including public school) that she hasn’t, isn’t and will not ever be paying into.
Something for nothing if you are Mexican?
What’s up with that?
That’s discrimination against legal immigrants–like my parents-who did the right thing and now are paying a penalty–taxes.
Why are citizens and law abiding citizens fined (taxes) for following the law while illegals run free to take advantage of the services taxes buy?
This is the problem.
Not immigration
Illegality.
Deport her. Now.
Posted by: Blarfinghar | May 20, 2010, 10:39 am 10:39 am
I don’t see what’s so bad about them coming here. They work harder than
we do, they’re not as greedy, and the conditions down there must be bad if they’re willing to go through what they have to to get here.
Posted by: Erin | May 20, 2010, 10:43 am 10:43 am
The problem isn’t immigration and people who understand and work hard know that. The problem is being illegal. We are the only country in the world that papers aren’t necessary. Why are passports provided, visa, id cards, it is for identification. If you aren’t doing anything wrong. The major problem is printing and having everything in Spanish you are making it easy, easy, and easier for anyone to come and hide here. Anyone – that is the first thing to stop – the next is just because you have a baby here that baby should not be a considered an American if the parents aren’t. If you have a baby in another country.. if you are of French nationality and your baby is born in Ireland — your baby is considered French country of birth–Ireland. Not an Irish citizen.
Posted by: sestia munwella | May 20, 2010, 10:48 am 10:48 am
How much do illegals make a year??? Factual data only!!!
And please no stupid comments about public benefits that illegals receive!!! I’m a legal immigrant and needed a public assistance when I first got here. Its easier to climb mountain Everest then get some kind of public assistance as a legal immigrant (exception “refugee” status). And don’t mention WIC as she raising an american citizen.
Posted by: SoCalTaurus | May 20, 2010, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Gary Nason,
In the first part of your comments you state that they are illegal from any country Right? But throughout the rest of your comments all you talk about is Mexicans. And that thing about everything being in English and Spanish well tough cookie for those that are not bilingual. Yeah for us because we get paid more than monolinguals. So if you don’t like it to bad. there are alot more immigrants here than you think but the other races will not work the hard labor jobs oh because they are not used to working in the sun and don’t like working in the sun so they just stay home and watch TV and receive all kinds of benefits. Will your race of people go out the fields and pick vegetable and fruits?? I am sure they will not! So get over it and start worrying about rapist, murderers, child abusers that are not mexican because both you and I know that they are mostly whites and african ammericans.
Posted by: Norma | May 20, 2010, 10:51 am 10:51 am
None of you know what is like to acutally live in a country these people come from. They work 15 hours a day for 50 bucks a week there wife and children sit at home starving and they cant do anything about it even people that have been through school in thier country dont make enough money to feed thier family. And yes there is a correct way to migrate to the US but it cost money and if you cant feed your family with what you make how are you going to pay for a visa or wait the time 3 months to a year to get the visa. So prosecute them for coming to the US to feed there family. You think they drown the economy becuase your tax dollars pays for them to go to school HELLO wake up just becuase your illeagal dosent mean you dont pay taxes. everything bought has a tax what about the 7 BILLON dollars that are not cliamed every year with the Irs becuase social security numbers dont match the name used to work or ILLEGALS WORKING UNDER OTHER NAMES THAT DONT MATCH NUMBERS. or the Collage tuition that is 3times the regular for illegals but they use your tax dollars.tell me who on this blog with something neagative to say has ever worked a back breaking day in the sun so that the american citizen dosnt have to put in a effort. Hispanic people are the most family orientad hard working people I know and i am WHITE. I just wish people would think before they open thier mouth I have a proposal lets send all of congress and the senators and of course the president and any person who belives that illeagals are wrong to a latin american country to live the life they live for 1 month not to cancun but actually to live the HEARTBREAKING life they live every single day if they still think they need to go back fine but I know they would not condeam anyone to that live. Yes we are lucky enough to be born in the US and to have oppertunities but you wont to prosucute someone because they were not fortunate. What do we tell or children go to school get an education build the best life you can but to the man woman and children across the street Or BORDER you tell them not to fight not to aspire to a better life. And they dont really care about voting all they really want is the security to know they can take thier kids to school without being deported for driving without a license or they can work without the fear that tomorrow the boss will check papers and Ill be without a job. Have compassion be a human being and REMEMBER UNLESS YOU ARE A NATIVE AMERICAN SOMEONE AT ONE POINT IN YOUR FAMILY CAME TO THE US AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN ILLEAGLY DONT CONDEAM SOMETHING YOU WOULD DO IN THAT PERSONS PLACE.
Posted by: Crystel | May 20, 2010, 10:52 am 10:52 am
I completely agree with M.Majors. The people who are snatching the so-called inflated high paying jobs for Americans are the corporations!!!! Where does Nike make its sneakers? Where does Dell, HP, Apple, etc make their computers and accessories? You got it right!!!NOT IN THE US OF A!!!!
All you balbbering racists ought to stop and think about how your rich white bretherns who promote the so-called “free market” aka the stock exchange-have contributed 100% to the demise of jobs here in America-why? shareholders like to make money….they force companies to cut costs, and the companies will farm it out to China and India.
Infact, all this outsourcing has actually WEAKENED U.S. technology might! We actually gave the Indians and Chinese and Singapreans all our brilliant technology. They copied it very well, improved on it, while our fat rich corrupt white CEOs were getting their $$millions, andthe so-called tech employees who tout they are so smart are being outsmarted!
Posted by: M.Wallastein | May 20, 2010, 10:56 am 10:56 am
THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS MAINLY THE MEXICANS ARE ROBBING POOR AMERICAM SENIORS AND SENIORS OF THERE WRITES AND BENIFITS (ex;MEDICAID PAYS BETTER THAN MEDICARE AND CITZENS WORK HARD FOR YEARS FOR BENEFITS)ILLEGALS GET MEDICAID ,FREE SERVICES SO THIS IS ROBBING OUR CITIES AND IT IS NOT FAIR. THEY COME HERE HERE ILLEGALLY AND HAVE BABIES EVERY YEAR AND WHO PAYS. THE CHILDREN ARE MAJORITY AUTISTIC AND NEED SPECIAL NEEDS WHY. THE CHILDREN DONT WANT TO BE EDUCATED AND WE GO OUT OF OUR WAY BY SOLICITATION TO GET THEM IN SCHOOL WHO PAYS. OUR PRE-K PROGRAMS SHOULD BE FOR wORKING FAMILIES BUT THEY GET FIRST CHOICE NOT FAIR. HOUSING THEM IS A SHAME THEY LIVE IN SHIFTS A DOZEN TO A ROOM . the Censes will be a joke.!!!!!
Posted by: Chon | May 20, 2010, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Hey Gerry Nelson, if illegal immigrants are taking on middle class jobs and high school students are not, then maybe your high school stutdents need to start working to do a better job in their interview. Plus keep in mind that most jobs now in days require atleast a High school diploma or a GED, don’t tell me that an illegal immigrant brought their US GED from another country. High school students are lazy, i’m lazy… I don’t want a hard working job, thats why i’m getting my university education so that i don’t have to compete for a job with someone that only has a high school diploma. Encourage your kids to go to school instead of getting depressed about not getting the job at walmart.
Posted by: orale | May 20, 2010, 10:58 am 10:58 am
KUDOS TO CRYSTAL! I so agree let’s send all these ignorant people talking negatively to live in one of the most poor countries and see how long they can survive there. They will be crying and begging to come back to the US. There are not asking for money out of your pockets and yes some of these immigrants pay their taxes too they use a ITIN number so they do pay taxes so don’t use that excuse either. So think about it before you open your mouth to stay dumb comments about Mexcian illegal immigrants. They come from all over the worl but do asian, indians and other countries get targeted for looking different no they don’t becuase they are only profiling the mexicans. Back in time someone from your families came here illegally too this land belong to someone else?
Posted by: Norma | May 20, 2010, 10:59 am 10:59 am
The comments on this site are something else. Some have half the answer, some are completely clueless. Illegal immigration does not affect my employment, but it does effect the employment of people I know. I have a guy who mows for me, he’s poor, getting older and is low in skills. He is however an honerable man and a hard worker. He has been unemployed for years, picking up whatever odd jobs he can get – like mowing. But he can’t even get a job with the hundreds of yard service companies or construction crews. Why? They would rather pick up a couple illegals from a parking lot and pay them 5 bucks an hour instead of hiring a legal person for 8 or 10 an hour. It’s criminal. It’s the fault of those who hire them, but mostly it is the fault of the Federal government that allows them to be here. They do not enforce the laws. Clinton, Bush and Obama are all guilty of dereliction of duty. They are more to blame than the companies that hire them. If your competition can beat every bid you place because they hire illegals, then you will be forced to follow suit or go out of business. My employment is effected by legal immigration and outsourcing. The government allows 100,000 high tech workers to be imported every month. With near 10% unemployment it is still going on to this day and most people don’t even know about it. Illegal immigration hurts poor and low skilled workers and legal immigration hurts the middle class workers. And yes, buying non-american products hurts us too. And lets not get started on the economic drain of those illegals who do not pay taxes, yet use our schools and hospitals witout paying a dime. The only solution is to enforce the existing immigration laws and to lower legal immigration to match our countries needs. If illegals were treated even slightly punitively, they would start leaving on there own. If you feel bad for poor people then look in your own backyard, there are millions of legal americans who need your attention and support. But mostly they need jobs, and there are over 10 million jobs held, right now, by illegals, that could be filled by those americans.
Posted by: ja | May 20, 2010, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Crystel,
I understand it costs money. Ad yet, hundreds of people manage to do it everyday. Like 80% of the people I work with. Most of the people in my field of work (health care) are Haitians, Jamaicans, Hispanics, and Indians (like, from India.)
Haiti is probably poorer than Mexico in some areas. Yet they’re here, green card and all. Sure, it took a while. Sure they did without some things to make it happen.
But they still managed to do it.
There’s always a way.
And, confidentially, if we didn’t have so much money being pulled out of the taxes by people who put nothing in, I wouldn’t be surprised to find the application fees going down. But the government has to cover the costs of illegals somehow. Unfortunately, it’s the honest ones who pay, in the end.
Posted by: ashley | May 20, 2010, 11:02 am 11:02 am
So Erin you are admitting you personally are lazy – because some of us do know how to bust our asses – we work very hard and our tax dollars are supporting 29% of illegals being on welfare. But there is no excuse for them to come here illegally. Let us think the number of illegals here just from Mexico the Gov averages at @ 10 million if these people got together and went back to Mexico with all of their efforts to avoid the law here – maybe they could fix their country. The numbers are there the Cartels would lose. The problem is Mexico doesn’t want them – they want them here so they can send back money to Mexico. The Mexican Gov is corrupt and won’t do what is right for their people so they teach them how to get here… now 87% of the people caught crossing the border illegally already are wanted for other crimes – but we should take them blindly. I have no pity for this child or her family if they are sent back to where ever her Mother is from if her mother is an illegal. Don’t screw our country – go and fix yours.
Posted by: kade | May 20, 2010, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Chon,
Where on earth did you get the idea Medicaid pays better than Medicare?
I work in health care, and I can tell you it most certainly does NOT! Not even CLOSE!
A lot of doctors down here don’t even TAKE Medicaid anymore.
Posted by: ashley | May 20, 2010, 11:04 am 11:04 am
~* You’ll act all smart! Your R all imigrants! People who do not have papers can not get government help! But you want to sound all smart like you know everything! The first Europeans to arrive in North America — at least the first for whom there is solid evidence — were Norse, traveling west from Greenland, where Erik the Red had founded a settlement around the year 985. In 1001 his son Leif is thought to have explored the northeast coast of what is now Canada and spent at least one winter there.
While Norse sagas suggest that Viking sailors explored the Atlantic coast of North America down as far as the Bahamas, such claims remain unproven. In 1963, however, the ruins of some Norse houses dating from that era were discovered at L’Anse-aux-Meadows in northern Newfoundland, thus supporting at least some of the claims the Norse sagas make.
In 1497, just five years after Christopher Columbus landed in the Caribbean looking for a western route to Asia, a Venetian sailor named John Cabot arrived in Newfoundland on a mission for the British king. Although fairly quickly forgotten, Cabot’s journey was later to provide the basis for British claims to North America. It also opened the way to the rich fishing grounds off George’s Banks, to which European fishermen, particularly the Portuguese, were soon making regular visits.
Columbus, of course, never saw the mainland United States, but the first explorations of the continental United States were launched from the Spanish possessions that he helped establish. The first of these took place in 1513 when a group of men under Juan Ponce de Leon landed on the Florida coast near the present city of St. Augustine.
With the conquest of Mexico in 1522, the Spanish further solidified their position in the Western Hemisphere. The ensuing discoveries added to Europe’s knowledge of what was now named America — after the Italian Amerigo Vespucci, who wrote a widely popular account of his voyages to a “New World.” By 1529 reliable maps of the Atlantic coastline from Labrador to Tierra del Fuego had been drawn up, although it would take more than another century before hope of discovering a “Northwest Passage” to Asia would be completely abandoned.
Among the most significant early Spanish explorations was that of Hernando De Soto, a veteran conquistador who had accompanied Francisco Pizzaro during the conquest of Peru. Leaving Havana in 1539, De Soto’s expedition landed in Florida and ranged through the southeastern United States as far as the Mississippi River in search of riches.
Another Spaniard, Francisco Coronado, set out from Mexico in 1540 in search of the mythical Seven Cities of Cibola. Coronado’s travels took him to the Grand Canyon and Kansas, but failed to reveal the gold or treasure his men sought.
However, Coronado’s party did leave the peoples of the region a remarkable, if unintended gift: enough horses escaped from his party to transform life on the Great Plains. Within a few generations, the Plains Indians had become masters of horsemanship, greatly expanding the range and scope of their activities.
While the Spanish were pushing up from the south, the northern portion of the present-day United States was slowly being revealed through the journeys of men such as Giovanni da Verrazano. A Florentine who sailed for the French, Verrazano made landfall in North Carolina in 1524, then sailed north along the Atlantic coast past what is now New York harbor.
A decade later, the Frenchman Jacques Cartier set sail with the hope — like the other Europeans before him — of finding a sea passage to Asia. Cartier’s expeditions along the St. Lawrence River laid the foundations for the French claims to North America, which were to last until 1763.
Following the collapse of their first Quebec colony in the 1540s, French Huguenots attempted to settle the northern coast of Florida two decades later. The Spanish, viewing the French as a threat to their trade route along the Gulf Stream, destroyed the colony in 1565. Ironically, the leader of the Spanish forces, Pedro Menendez, would soon establish a town not far away — St. Augustine. It was the first permanent European settlement in what would become the United States.
The great wealth which poured into Spain from the colonies in Mexico, the Caribbean and Peru provoked great interest on the part of the other European powers. With time, emerging maritime nations such as England, drawn in part by Francis Drake’s successful raids on Spanish treasure ships, began to take interest in the New World.
In 1578 Humphrey Gilbert, the author of a treatise on the search for the Northwest Passage, received a patent from Queen Elizabeth to colonize the “heathen and barbarous landes” in the New World which other European nations had not yet claimed. It would be five years before his efforts could begin. When he was lost at sea, his half-brother, Walter Raleigh, took up the mission.
In 1585 Raleigh established the first British colony in North America, on Roanoke Island off the coast of North Carolina. It was later abandoned, and a second effort two years later also proved a failure. It would be 20 years before the British would try again. This time — at Jamestown in 1607 — the colony would succeed, and North America would enter a new era.
~* BUT YOU WANT TO ACT LIKE U.S. BELONGS TO YOU’LL LEARN YOUR HISTORY! In all reality you’ll are the illegal imigrants that stold US from it’s rightful owners!*~
Posted by: Sonia | May 20, 2010, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Everybody has a lot to say about illegal immigration. First of all, illegal immigrants are in many countries not just the United States. Americans demand for people to come to the United States the right way, and I agree. But, have they ever looked into want people doing it the right way go through and addressed that issue? You come to the country with a work permit and pay taxes and still have to stand in a long long line waiting for your Green Card to be approved. It costs thousands of dollars. Yes there needs to be an immigration reform but, government also needs to start looking into the back log at the immigration department. We have been waiting for a visa number for more than five years and doing everything legally and yet still no results. Immigration fees went up to cover the cost of the employees and still nothing. Will that ever be addressed. As to the law in Arizona, yes I agree that something needs to be done to get rid of the problem of illegal immigration but do you think it is fair that every person who does not fit their profile of an American be asked for papers. So even for people that have come the right way and done the things the right way and had children here have to prove that they are US citizens. What does an American citizen look like, can somebody explain that to me? What fits that profile? Who decides that? This law will allow any Hispanic, legal or not to be targeted and its not fair. A lot needs to be addressed and worked on by the leader of our nation. It is just sad that so many Americans are racist towards Hispanic especially. There are people from all over the world that are illegal here and yet not targeted. Finally, America does not belong to anyone single race. That mentality needs to be erased. The thing is that the race that thinks they own this country are racist against some of their own people that are not of their own race. That is sad. America has become a melting pot and if history is looked at, the race that thinks they own this country came in and took over. History needs to be told the right way but I guess people just use what is convenient to them.
Posted by: Unknown | May 20, 2010, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Chon,
The whole healthcare problem has nothing to do with immigrants. Stop blaming people who sacrifice so much just to be crammed in a room with too many other people. Why do people have the need to find someone else to blame for anything that goes wrong.
Posted by: Erin | May 20, 2010, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Crystel cry me a river – farmers break their back everyday taking care of their farms and not every farm hires migrant workers. Don’t give the crap propaganda that they do jobs that no American would – because when they were having work raids last year before Obama stopped them hundreds of people were applying for one job that opened up. Well this bull crap about the Native Americans – well where did they come from – surely they didn’t start on this continent because it anthropologically civilization didn’t start on this continent so they traveled here. But they didn’t own the land – they didn’t believe anyone owned land see your mindset doesn’t work either – the Native Americans were no-mads and they were in pockets across the nation. But the fact of the matter is the Native Americans were not all a peaceful people and they would get into wars with other tribes. That the settlers went to war with them – the French – Indian war was prior to the settlements. Heck it was prior to the revolution we didn’t have major issues with the native Americans and reservation treaties until after the Louisiana purchase and the settling of the that area. But war is war and to the victor goes the spoils – it was a different time. Now the southern border is war and if we do not protect our border it is stupid. The cost of illegals on the systems are quite high. Look it up… your drivel about them paying taxes and not collecting because they committed a felony (AKA identity theft) which you obviously condone. Look Oklahoma passed a strict Illegal Immigration enforcement bill in 2007 and it has worked out well for the State they cut their welfare recipients, their unemployment rate is not as high as the rest of the nation, 50,000 illegals moved out and 75,000 US Citizens moved in… tell me the virtues of breaking the law…
Posted by: kade | May 20, 2010, 11:21 am 11:21 am
• When are you going to report that Immigration has detained this undocumented alien? We all would like to see our tax dollars at work.
Posted by: LJ | May 20, 2010, 11:21 am 11:21 am
So the question that Mrs. Obama needs to ask the girl is: Why does you mom not have the right papers? Is it because she is here illegally? If she came here the proper way then there is nothing to worry about and the children need to be told this. We are not the Evil Empire and the First Lady should be able to say this without offending anyone. It is really pretty simple, if you came here the proper way then you work towards becoming a productive citizen. For a mom to send her kid to school to ask a question like that does nothing but send the wrong message. What illegals want is not Immigration reform, they want a free pass. My parents are immigrants and i never had to ask anybody any stupid questions like that. Why? because they didn’t sneak into America in the middle of the night.
Posted by: tom manning | May 20, 2010, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Hey Sonia – the “Native Americans” weren’t originally here either this continent was not the beginning of the human species.. so your entire argument is hogwash… The majority of the people from Central America are not even descendant from the “Indians” in that region as they were killed off by the French and Spanish and new diseases from the European explorers. So technically it is mostly descendants from Spain, France & Portugal that are coming in from southern border illegally…
Posted by: kade | May 20, 2010, 11:30 am 11:30 am
What makes you an American? If you live in North America, Central America, or South America, you are an American. IDK why US Citizens got the habit of calling themselves Americans and not considering anyone else who lives in the Americas.
Posted by: orale | May 20, 2010, 11:36 am 11:36 am
STATEMENT IF YOU ARE ILLEAGAL YOU CAN NOT RECIVIE GOVERMENT BENIFITS. YOU THINK IT IS ILLEAGAL THAT USE UP YOUR TAX DOLLARS WRONG ITS THE PERSON ACROSS THE STREET OR THE PEOPLE IN YOUR FAMILY THAT WOULD RATHER GET FREE FOOD THEN USE THIER OWN MONEY TO BUY FOOD OR THAT WOULD RATHER SIT ON THERE A** AND WATCH JERRY AND MUARY ALL DAY. OR THE AMERICANS THAT HAVE CHILDREN AND UNFORTANITLY THESE CHILDREN PASS AT A YOUNG AGE BUT STILL RECIVE TANF AND FOOD STAMPS FOR THEM. ILLEAGLS HAVE TO BUY THIER OWN FOOD AND PAY TAXES ON IT. iF THEY GO TO THE E.R. THEY PAY FOR IT AND ARE TAXED. THE ONLY ILLEAGALS THAT GET SOME WHAT OF A BREAK ARE SCHOOL CHILDREN BUT LETS BE HONEST THEY DIDNT DECIDE TO COME HERE ILLEGAL AND THIER PARENTS PAY THIER SHARE OF TAXEX FOR THEM TO GO TO SCHOOL IGNORANT PEOPLE GTEME WORKED UP IF YOU ARE GONNA STATE SOMETHING MAKE SURE IT IS RIGHT………..
Posted by: Crystel | May 20, 2010, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Please Mexico’s own immigration policy is Draconian and abusive.
Imagine them telling us what to do. Call the irony policy.
If their country wasn’t in shambles, maybe people wouldn’t have to flee in droves.
But then again, as part of the something-for-nothing mentality, Mexico counts on the remittances.
The whole world is suckling from the teet of America and we are bearing the burden. Pity us not the people ILLEGALLY taking advantage.
That would be the ILLEGAL immigrants (not immigrants in general) and the people who hire them ILLEGALLY. All should go to jail.
Posted by: Blarfinghar | May 20, 2010, 11:37 am 11:37 am
ASHLEY do you know that haitians recive TPS that means they can come here illeagly and then apply for a green card same thing for Honduras and el salvador and a couple other countries the statements I make Is becuase I lived in Mexico for 2 years not vacationing but actually lived there yes you can leagaly come here but question for you if you cant feed your family how would you pay your family. a work visas are 131 dollars you make 50 a week you still have to pay your bills in the end of a week you owe money instead of having a few dollars to save for a visa what would you do.
Posted by: Crystel | May 20, 2010, 11:46 am 11:46 am
One question where do you get that illegals dont put taxes in THIS QUESTION IS FOR ANYONE
Posted by: Crystel | May 20, 2010, 11:48 am 11:48 am
Crystel,
You’re right. That doesn’t excuse American citizens who sit around all day and do nothing. Something should be done about them too. The way I see it, if you have to take a drug test to get a job, you should have to take a drug test to get unemployment and welfare.
But just because one part of the system is broken doesn’t mean we let the whole thing go to spoil.
Posted by: ashley | May 20, 2010, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Ilegals can’t get gov’t help? WRONG. I work in the system, Illegals have 3-4 driver’s licenses, food stamp cards, section 8 housing, how about Bank of America that gives out credit cards without a SS#??? They get lot’s of help.
Posted by: factsonly | May 20, 2010, 11:51 am 11:51 am
THEY ARE LAW BREAKERS WHO HAVE BROKEN INTO OUR COUNTRY & DEMAND THAT I SUPPORT THEM WITH MY TAX DOLLARS. We MUST know who we have in this country. If you go to Canada or any other country, you MUST carry your passport at all times & be prepared to show it upon request. That is not discrimination, it is the LAW, which is something these LAWBREAKERS feel they are exempt from. Why are they so against showing proper documentation? They are bringing in diseases that we eradicated years ago. The refuse to learn our language, they DEMAND we give them full access to OUR social services that MY tax dollars go into. They are DRAINING OUR TAX SYSTEMS AND DRAINING OUR STATES & our states are running low on money for taxpayers who put into the system who may themselves need a little help. If we don’t send these LAWBREAKERS back, I’m afraid there will be nothing left of the USA & for Obama to stand by the side of the president of Mexico and not stand up for Arizona and what they have done to me is treasonist! That ILLEGAL in the White House should be impeached. He is quickly selling out the USA and dragging us down. We will soon become a 3rd world country. Who will take care of us then???
Posted by: Sue West | May 20, 2010, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Crystel,
They’ve only had TPS since the quake. Most of our employees were here LONG before that.
Posted by: ashley | May 20, 2010, 11:59 am 11:59 am
I am so sick of the ‘racist’ BS. Let’s see … if I am trying to find someone who is in the KKK do you think I am going to go looking for a black person? No, the fact that thousands of Mexicans pour through our borders every day is the reason we think most illegals are Mexicans. And since the pathetic Mexican government would like to tell us how to do our job and say that not all illegals are Mexican, then how the heck are South Americans and others getting into their country illegally and then subsequently coming in to the US through Mexico? If you think these illegals cannot get welfare even though they have no papers you are very wrong. Go sit in a ‘free’ (only to freeloaders…not tax payers) clinic and listen and you will find out how to receive every ‘free’ benefit there is out there….but only if you speak Spanish. My husband is Hispanic and I speak Spanish…I did this one day and it is beyond eye opening. Also, the woman who drops babies like flies says she isn’t married or her husband is in Mexico and she gets plenty of welfare for her anchor babies. It is really a racket…the Hispanics who got here first are teaching the ones that follow how to bilk us idiots out of our hard earned money….at a price of course. The ones who got here first take advantage and charge the heck out of the ones just now getting here for the ‘free’ info on how to get every benefit they can. That is why the legal hispanics don’t want the illegals to have to go back. Often a legal hispanic will own a company and when you contract with them, you find out they are the only legal one in the company. I live in Texas…it is pathetic the level of pandering to the illegals here. Mexican flags everywhere and Mexicans looking at you like you are invading their country and they are having to pay for your existence. When other states get taken over as badly as the border states, then maybe some of you bleeding heart idiots will ‘get’ it. I am a very generous person and donate to charity often, but I am sick of the government deciding the illegal Mexicans (yes 95% of the illegals in the border state are Mexican) should get my contributions via my taxes. Those of you that want them to stay can support them…the rest of us are sick of it. You think they act all defiant during the marches, you should encounter them on a daily basis. They just wanna work hard…really…every time I pass by a construction site, I see 10 of them just standing around or one working and 9 watching. Pay 2 or 3 legals a decent wage and you would get twice as much work done. Before you start spouting off BS about we are all immigrants…my people were here first as I am almost full blooded American Indian and my husband is hispanic so I am not racist. By the way, neither he nor my two sons mind having to carry ID and wouldn’t mind showing it 24 times a day if it would get our state cleaned up. Sick of the stupidity….if you love them so much move to Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, or Mexifornia. As for us, our house is for sale and we are looking to move somewhere where the schools aren’t dumbed down so the English as a Second Language (seriously?) students don’t feel so left behind, where your neighbors don’t have 20 cars parked in the front yard, where you aren’t blasted listening to that stupid music with its same three notes over and over, where your neighbors put their trash in the trash can not throw it all over your yard….the list could go on and on about these ‘wonderful people who just want a better life, etc’. If you want a better life, make it for yourself in your country…don’t come trying to Mexicanize mine.
Posted by: Kim | May 20, 2010, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
Crystel first learn how to spell 2nd Iam glad you are willing to pay for the illeagals this means I dont–so keep working hard so you can support them! illeagals may pay taxes but nothing near what needs to be paid to have their 4 children in school–what needs to be done is a monthly bill sent to mexico when they dont pay forclose on their country very simple –just like the scum banks did on peoples houses!
Posted by: Mike | May 20, 2010, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
How does a credit card help and i have not meet an illeagal with food stamps you are thinking of cubans or people who recive TPS just becuase they are hispanic does not mean they are illeagal that can get those things the only states that issue license are washington and new mexico
Posted by: Crystel | May 20, 2010, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
How easy we forget about how many of these so call illegals help build our homes and so many of them also broke their back working the fields so we could enjoy those great salads we eat every day. It is a problem now that our economy is sufering, how convinient.
Goverment officials need to work together so they can fix the problem.
In the mean time more states will start stupid laws like the one in Arizona that is hurting their economy just because they were pressure plitically to do something about iit with out thinking about the ramifications.
Posted by: jaime | May 20, 2010, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
I’d rather pay a little more in taxes and know that somewhere, somebody is going to bed with food in their belly and clothes on their back and getting
the education that every “human” is entitled to…regardless of their ethnicity! That is what our great country is all about.
I wouldn’t want to be part of a cold-hearted and selfish and prejudiced nation!!
Posted by: Sylvia | May 20, 2010, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
What i belive is there needs to a immagration reform a long with trying to stop illeagal immagration I understand that it is illeagal and are population rates are growing rapidly but i think we should look into our hearts and not be cruel you cant deport 12 million people
Posted by: Crystel | May 20, 2010, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
And there are many americans with 5 or 6 kids that 12,000 dollars a year only pay 50 bucks a check on taxesand live off welfare and still get a a large amount of money at the end of the year for so many kids go to any under class ghetto and most woman have more than 3 kids
Posted by: Crystel | May 20, 2010, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Yeah Jaime…they built our homes…if you live in Texas they probably did…some of the most pathetic homes in the nation. My 12 year old could have built a much better home by himself. They cook and clean…have you been to the back of a Mexican restaurant…I have as I am a health inspector. Truly disgusting..not much cleaning going on at all and many times the leftovers from a table go back into the pot to be used again. I know, we have caught tons of them doing it. Need a maid….a legal hispanic owns the company and they only hire illegals to work there….that is why the illegals do those jobs. They were probably brought here by the one who owned the company. Back in Mexico this person is a hero. “Oh, you know Fernando, he owns his own company. He can get your Lucy a job. Give us some money and we will call him for you”. If you think that isn’t happening all day every day you are a fool. The legal hispanics will use their voting power to keep the illegals coming because they are making a killing off of them and the illegal is bilking the system to make up the difference.
Posted by: Kim | May 20, 2010, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Crystel,
That’s the first reasonably sensible thing you’ve said.
What to do about the people already here is another problem entirely. I still say they should all have to pay the fines, register, and take immigration classes. Anyone with any felony charges needs to get the boot.
As to reform, sure, make it easier. I’m all for that, too. Lower the fees. Uncomplicate the paperwork. Set a higher limit. (50,000 per year is a rather paltry number for the visa lottery.) Actually, I think we should do away with the lottery and set it up on a triage system. Those in most need go first. But that’s me talking.
Posted by: ashley | May 20, 2010, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
We can’t talk about reform until the borders are secured. The past administrations created this problem, it started with the Regan administration in the 1980s. We have laws in place to protect the citzens of the this country, they are to be upheld. The immigration issue has gotten so out of control, there is no easy fix for it! We need to be fair about whatever processes that are put in place resolve this issue.
Posted by: Karoo4me | May 20, 2010, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
I hope that the little girl and her family get DEPORTED soon, because as we all heard THEY DON’T BELONG HERE. I’ll be looking in the news for the announcement of their deportation.
Posted by: Alexander Kalafat | May 20, 2010, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
And america would have an up roaor did any of you hear about the collage student in georgia that was being deported but because of so many people against it she is allowed to stay and finish her career.
Posted by: Crystel | May 20, 2010, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
Yes you can deport 12 million people, what a job creator. Come to this country legally or don’t come. Think of why they help build homes & roads here..because big busy didn’t want to pay “Americans”. Americans first, period.
Posted by: Marc | May 20, 2010, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Crystel? Are you really that bitter?
Posted by: Sylvia | May 20, 2010, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Illegals is costing Arizona a billion dollars a year. We just had tax raised due to stupid people not making or State trim the fat out. I am sick of having to pay for the illegals kids education, illegals medical, and all the damage from all the tagging and trash left all over the place. I am sick of them protesting our laws, and begging Obama to give them Amnesty. I am sure that everyone of them know that coming here the way they did is breaking the law. So that says they do not care about any of our laws.
If you want to be legal get your papers. Support and be proud of the United States Flag. You left your country and should in no way be flying the Mexican flag above or before the red, white and blue. Learn English as this adds many problem. If I moved to any country I would have to learn the language.
And I do agree That Obama must be an Illegal himself as he stands against most of the Citizen. He is selling out our country and is a total disgrace to the United States. He should be put in Jail, and since his wife does not like the United States, just deport her to Mexico. I think she would be happier there.
The Mexican Pres. lets is own law enforcement treat USA Citizen very badly, He even lets them rob us. And so he has NO RIGHTS to tell us anything about our laws.
If he wants to work together, then he needs to fix his own problems first.
Posted by: Robin | May 20, 2010, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
ASK mexican president WHY HE CAN FIX HIS OWN COUNTRY AND WHY HE WANTS mexicans IN AMERICAN. THEY KEEP SENDING DOLLARS BACK TO mexico SUPPORT THEY DRUG LORDS. EVERY mexican IN US IS CORRUPT, FROM JUDGES TO COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CONGRESSMEN, GOVERNORS. THEY NEED TO ASK THEM SELF DO THEY WANT AMERICA TO END UP LIKE mexico. WITH CORRUPT POLICE AND POLITICIANS. NO ECONOMY OR ANY REAL VALUE LIKE THE PASO. PEOPLE ALWAYS RUNNING INTO OTHER COUNTRY INSTEAD OF STANDING UP FOR THEIR OWN CULTURE.
I HAVE HEARD OF mexican BORDER PARTOL OFFICERS THAT ARE BRIBED INTO LETTING OTHER mexican’s INTO TEXAS, IM SURE THIS IS JUST A SAMPLE OR WHAT LIVING IN mexico would be like. think it over.
Posted by: Chris | May 20, 2010, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
What a sucky attitude americans first. thats why ultimatly our country is falling to pieces becuase everyone thinks me first
Posted by: Crystel | May 20, 2010, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
BITTER ABOUT WHAT
Posted by: Crystel | May 20, 2010, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Like most people..I think we need to get a grasp and maintain some control over illegal immigration, however, I wouldn’t avocate sending a child and her family back to Mexico or whatever country she came from because her family doesn’t have their “papers”. Maybe we should educate these people so they know the proper channels to follow to be here ‘legally’. This is probably the only home that little has ever known. I wouldn’t dream of throwing her out!!
Posted by: Sylvia | May 20, 2010, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Maybe I am bitter that me being a united states citizen born and I cant give my husband status becuase of the tough immagration law. Maybe im bitter about my daughter is scared of the police becuase her father is illeagal and i can do nothing about it. or maybe its the fact that my husband work 17 hours a day provides for his family on his time off he tries to catch up on sleep and take his kids to the park but i cant help him becuase my daughter would have to be dying literly need his blood for him to be allowed in this country legally again he has no felonies just crossing the border illeagaly at the age of 17 where his parents made him come. and that seems unfair to me becuase it is my right as a us citizen to chose my husband and he cant drive or just be without a fear of being deported tomorrow and being ripped form his family
Posted by: Crystel | May 20, 2010, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
We can’t fund education the US Citizens but we can give education to an illegal child? So the laws only apply when we like them? Why don’t they go thru legal channels to be here LEGALLY. You can bet no other country would provide free education, medical and housing to a US Citizen who was in their country illegally. This country blew it voting for obama. McCain WAS the right choice!!
Posted by: mary mcmanus | May 20, 2010, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
#1) A BILLION dollars a year is being sent to Mexico by the illegal aliens. This is a BILLION dollars a year that could be helping OUR economy.
#2) ILLEGAL means just that, ILLEGAL.
#3) There is a FEDERAL LAW that Mr.
Obama won’t enforce, despite his OATH to defend our country and enforce it’s laws. He should be charged with aidibg and abetting criminals.
#4) The border needs to be CLOSED before AlQaeda figures out how to sneak another attack on us.
#5) I do NOT appreciate people who SWEAR AN OATH to be an American and then wave a Mexican flag around. That is their OLD flag, not their NEW one.
You want to be Mexican, be Mexican. If you want to be American, be American.
#6) MRS. Obama is guilty of AIDING and ABETTING CRIMINALS, and should be charged, unless she turns this kid’s mother over to the INS.
#7) ANYONE offended by having to show ID is an IDIOT. You can’t even buy BEER
without ID.
Posted by: Bob | May 20, 2010, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Has the thought that this was a planted question crossed anyone’s mind? I mean come on, that girl is 7, maybe 8 years old. It just sounds like she was supposed to say “Arizona” instead of “Barack Obama.”
Posted by: Tom | May 20, 2010, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Well…I’m proud to say that’s what sets our country apart from others. I’m sorry that there are people living here that feel they have to hide. I’m sure that’s no way to live and I’m sure there’s a better way of doing it…but our country is a combination of every type of person from every walk of life and from various parts of the world..and our country ‘does’ offer the type of opportunities that will entice people to come here if even illegally. I think that anyone who wants to be here and can be a contributing member of our society…should be welcome here.
Posted by: Sylvia | May 20, 2010, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Crystel,
If your husband is illegal and he’s married to you, he can get his green card based on sponsorship of family. It will take some time and money, but they can’t take him away from you permanently. Depending on how long you’ve been married, it may be easy, or difficult.
My brother in law married an illegal from Cuba. She got her green card in 2 years.
Posted by: ashley | May 20, 2010, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Oh, and #8) I am SICK of a President who will not stand up for his country.
I am TIRED of a President who so openly condemns a country who gave HIM a chance.
I am DISGUSTED by a President who thinks he has to appologize to EVERYONE for our decades of being the most SUPPORTIVE nation on the earth.
Instead of APPOLOGIZING, he should be telling them to forget the AID checks, cause they won’t be coming anymore.
He should ALSO tell the Mexican President to clean up his own country and maybe some of the Mexicans will STAY there.
Posted by: Bob | May 20, 2010, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Cubans get green cards any way and the fact the he entered the us illeagaly means that i could apply he would have to go back to mexico and process there where he would be denied becuase there would be no extreme hardship like my daughter needing his blood me going mentally crazie or things like that i work at an immagration law firm had several opinions only thing that would help is reform
Posted by: Crystel | May 20, 2010, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
I’m an illegal alien & guess what? Since I turned 18 and got employed I’ve paid my taxes. Though my taxes are paid to the IRS and the state I can’t pay unemployment tax so when I lost my job I faced the same challenges as born Americans. I don’t have insurance so I only go to the hospital when something is very wrong & then I go on a payment plan and pay my bill in its entirety. So please stop stereotyping!!!!! Unfortunately, I was brought to this country as a child and no one asked me if I wanted to be here or not. However, it became home to me and now there are people who feel I don’t deserve an opportunity to stay here. That is a bunch of crap. To avoid a larger scale problem, then certainly, the borders should be secured, but there are alot of individuals in my situation that should have an option to stay in the country where they have paid taxes, made friends and established a life. I wish some of you would look outside of your lives and try walking in someone else’s shoes. Where is the compassion? I guess the same place as some of our morals (non existent).
Posted by: Cece | May 20, 2010, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
First of all AMERICA is not a Contry like a lot of people say we are “Americans” why they come to America? My understanding is that this contry name is “United State of America” Mexico, Canada,Peru,Brasil, Argentina we all AMERICANS because we are in the AMERICA continet all the way From The North Pole to The South Pole.
Posted by: Norma | May 20, 2010, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
Besides the fact it was a putup question, it was Michelle Obama’s JOB to tell the brat that we are a nation of laws, and that her mother is a criminal, and is violating US law.
Here we have a President who IGNORES the law; CONDEMNS our nation; and whose wife aids and abets criminals.
Posted by: Bob | May 20, 2010, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
You CAN get rid of the “ILLEGALS”…just start putting the employers in jail for hireing them and fine them big time!! The WILL leave this country because of NO JOBS. Karoo4me it started with the Regan administration in the 1980s.
Yes it did!! The libs talked him into legalising hundres of thousands with the understanding that they would FIX the borders. Another LIE from the left. Thats all they have is lies. You people HAVE NOT READ THE LAW in AZ!!!!!
Posted by: jake | May 20, 2010, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
While it’s not that I don’t have a heart, shouldn’t this young girl (who was obviously fed this question by an adult) ask her OWN MOTHER why they’re in this situation? If the mother/parents came here LEGALLY there wouldn’t a problem now would there? Get serious people. There is a big difference between Legal and Illegal – whether it’s running a red light, stealing from a store, breaking into a home or breaking into a country, it’s all done ILLEGALLY, breaking the law – I’ll save my compassion for the people that follow the rules :)
Posted by: McWhat81 | May 20, 2010, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Crystel,
I would post the link here, but it won’t let me do that.
Check out the USCIS .gov website and select “Green Card Through Family”. It might not be as bad as you think. Critical need and extreme hardship is not always a factor in determining who stays.
Posted by: ashley | May 20, 2010, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
here is the deal- Since 2001 after Bush you can legalize anybody unless they are from Africa or refuges, Second.. If we want to legalize a husband or a wife- they wold have to go back to their country and wait to be called for an interview. meanwhile other partner is here and waiting for their return that can take up to 10 years. Honestly thats not fare. if They are trying and there is no law to support. then the system is broken. Also don’t tell me that my Grand father came in to this country and became legal and we are all americans because FYI before 1918 there was NO immigration LAw in the US so whoever came to this country they had papers. not including China.
Then what, Its heart braking. Secure borders, and screen each person if they have a criminal backgroup anywhere.. thats different but if they are seriously trying pay penalty, make sure they file their taxes and learn english. Stop hate and come to a solution.
I`m a proud America Citizen and i was recently pulled over and called a criminal with no reason. Now thats Racism.
Posted by: Kay | May 20, 2010, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
Wow, so much selfishness and prejudice.
Tom, sure they may be illegal but they still worked to earn that money and it is their to do with what they please.
Crystal, do you honestly think that only mexicans are corrupt? Most of the politicians in this country have been white and quite a few have made the news for being corrupt and lying and cheating not least of which was “W” Bush who illegally, yes, that is right Illegally spied on his own people using wire taps. It may have been for a good reason but again if you want black and white that man did a lot of Illegal things.
Posted by: David | May 20, 2010, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Kim,
I live in AZ and I could not have said it better!!! I don’t hate the illegals nor do I wish them harm. I expect our government to stand their ground and support the laws of this country!! The laws were put in place for many important reasons and they need to be enforced by everyone not just the citizens!! These people who disrespect our laws need to go to the back of the line and wait their turn. If they are here too bad its time to go home and do it right! We need immigrants in our country who want to be here because they want to be Americans. The ones that are here proudly showing their loyalties to another country, getting a free ride and in the process try to change our neighborhoods to resemble the 3rd world countries they came from!! I’m sick of driving thru areas of Phoenix felling like I just crossed the border! I’m sick of seeing bill boards and signs in stores in Spanish Only. The first time I heard Spanish over the loud speaker in a store I walked out and never returned!! This is the United States of America One Nation, One Flag, One Language and many laws!! Like it or leave it!! And Mr. President: YES WE CAN!!! Yes we can deport millions of illegals…secure our borders and deport them as they break our laws: ID theft, fraud, robbery, smuggling people & drugs, and murder just to mention a few! Illegal parents having babies here should not constitute their children legal citizens. We all know that is not the way the law was meant to be interpreted but the illegals know how to take advantage of our system in so many way so we need to close loop holes and put an end to the anchor babies. We need police like our Sheriff Joe, willing to enforce all of our laws, to clean house across this country and I would bet we could be 90% free of illegals in no time!! And please know Mexican Nationals are not the only problem here!! So the rest of the freeloading illegas need to get packing too!!!! As for the children who were born here of illegals you need to put the blame where it lies. Your parents, grand parents, whoever came here with out going thru the proper channels. This country is not at fault nor are the citizens who have been paying the way for you. You complain we are splitting up families No, we are not!! We are enforcing our laws that your families have broken. I’m sorry you have been caught in crossfire but know it’s not the fault of this country and if anything you owe this country for giving you the opportunities, knowledge and experiences you have had here. Its time to take that knowledge back to your native country and share it with the rest of the people & fight for change in your country! We like ours they way it is. God Bless You All!!!
Posted by: AZbrat | May 20, 2010, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Look, have any of you that are so in favor of immigration laws like Arizona has, even bothered to look at the waiting list to get into this country? The truth is we make it virtually impossible for many to come here legally..and that goes for legal workers who may want to bring their families here…it wont happen for at least ten years…are you kidding me? Would you wait that long for a loved one? and if the food industry, ag industry and many more, lose these fabulous workers your comfort zone in this country goes to zero..so stop being so superior and get real here….
Posted by: Becky | May 20, 2010, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
I think that everyone that is commenting is so ignorant. Illegals cannot receive any type of government assitance. They may get it for their kids but not for them. Yes we need a reform and bad!! But if there is an illegal here working I don’t think tha they should be punished only if there a commiting a crime. Crystal if you live in texas i have a # for a lawyer that is real good in immigration law and can help you. That law in Arizona is dumb and racist. So no one ever answered what does an american look like. I am a US citizen but my ancestors were from Mexico and since I look Mexican are they going to pull me over for that? Well that is just plain dumb if you ask me!!!
Posted by: Norma | May 20, 2010, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Illegal…the word says it all? Get your papers, get your citizenship, learn the language and laws, and welcome to the USA. Simple plan to follow, but so many don’t. Too bad if the line is long, it’s there for a reason. I applaud any immigrant who has come to OUR country legally and is a productive member of our society. We take from our own to support illegals and it’s disgusting. I AM American, and working 3+ jobs to support myself, currently have no insurnace nor can I get assistance…why?? Assistance is over burdened with helping illegals. My children lose programs in their schools since money HAS to go to teach illegals and fund programs to help them. Are you kidding?? Our rights fall aside.
Do it right, or go home. Sounds harsh, but honestly…we need the old Ellis Island system back. Proper paperwork, citizenship, mandatory english…you are in AMERICA and you need to be here legally. We welcome you as a CITIZEN!
What we are breeding in this country are people who excel at milking the system to our own demise. Americans do it too, but less and less now that the government has been so free with the borders. Any person, any color, any country, any religion…get your papers and do it right.
That little girls question to the wife of the President, was no doubt planned, and whoever said it earlier said it best, she should ask her MOTHER why she may be deported, not pass the buck again our way. Immigrants have a HUGE responsibility to follow our laws and the government has a bigger responsibility to UPHOLD the laws.
Posted by: Nay | May 20, 2010, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
YOu people that are saying to deport this little girl and her mother have no heart. Think what if my duaghter was in a difficult situation and there was no one to help them would you want her to get help or just thrown out to fendd for herself? Don’t be heartless! It is not her fault that her mother is an illegal!
Posted by: Norma | May 20, 2010, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
If the U.S. would follow through with all “races, ethnicities, and delinquints” (cus those are currently the problem right?) we would not be considered the land where dreams come true and to become better… also if they would really want to cut dwn on all immigrants they should start by the people who make bombs no? mexicans do not build bombs… they are here to work… and live a better life, when their home country cant provide it… these people dont really want to be here… they get home sick just like we all do… idk if you all noticed but the whole money issue started happening when mexicans were being deported cus no one will lower themselves to do their jobs!
Posted by: yc636 | May 20, 2010, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
I think all of the people who think the little girl should be deported with her family and those of you who aren’t open-minded about others who would like to become US Citizens should leave the United States. You make those of us who welcome adversity and the right for the “Pursuit of Happiness” look bad.
Posted by: Sylvia | May 20, 2010, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Sorry in some ways I see this as a political ploy brought forth by the child andher family. Yes it may be that the girl posed the question on her own, but she also has to realize that because her mother does not have the legal visa, work ect here in the states then the family needs to be deported as a whole because her mother is a illegal immigrant in the US and thus because the laws were not followed then the mother is the one to blame for her mishap. Hopefully though there is not a rush to keep the mother here by special permission by the president because the spok in front of media and the first lady. Sorry not here legally GO HOME.
Posted by: Christina Rightmer | May 20, 2010, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
I’m sure the girl asked the question on her own…Kids listen when their parents talk. I guarantee NOBODY in her
home slept lastnight. I think it’s a
shame. All they want to do is live their lives.
Posted by: Sylvia | May 20, 2010, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Amnesty is a slap in the face to all the hardworking immigrants who stood in line to enter legally.
It’s not racist to recognize that the overwhelming majority of illegals come from Mexico, and look Mexican. Nobody including Arizona is rounding up people and detaining them for being brown.
Posted by: CF | May 20, 2010, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Somehow, I do not see those who founded this country agreeing with all of you callously calling for her mother’s deportation. You think this girl should be made aware that her mother is a criminal? How can you honestly believe that. This woman who is most likely working a job that someone residing here legally would not lower themselves to do. Caring for a child, and trying to give her the best possible chance at life by having her live in the US. I am sorry, that woman is not a criminal in my eyes. She is a mother trying to the do the best for her daughter. All the while with the threat of being illegal looming over her head. And have you ever thought that this little girl may be an American herself? You are saying you are for orphaning her?
Posted by: WillDarby | May 20, 2010, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
CF SO JUST BECAUSE YOU LOOK MEXICAN THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK FOR YOUR PAPERS IS THAT WHAT YOUR SAYING??? So it is profiling that they are going to base it off of so they are targeting people just because like you “LOOK MEXICAN” What does an american look like??
Posted by: Norma | May 20, 2010, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
I think it should be harder for people and more secure.I met my husband in 07′and the only reason he asked me to marry him is so he could stay in the U.S. Sometimes people will do anything to stay.Even using someone for their needs.Marriage is sacared and shouldn’t be a convience for someone to live here by acting like their really in love when they could care less about them.
Posted by: Heartbroken | May 20, 2010, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
No “Immigration Reform”,
i.e., Amnesty, “Path to Citizenship” EVER.
If you are in the USA illegally,
you get DEPORTED.
Since you know that will happen,
DON”T BREAK OUR LAWS
and come here ILLEGALLY.
If an American employer knowingly hires
illegals, the punishment:
1. Your business is auctioned publicly,
you do not get ANY of the proceeds.
2. 10 years hard labor in jail.
I predict the Arizona law, with a few modifications, will be adopted by other states around the country.
And who is this Mexican Calderon to dictate U.S. policy?
I never voted for that guy.
Posted by: Tom Smith | May 20, 2010, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
ean Mathis So little angel faced little girl says to Mechelle why are you trying to send my undocumented parents back to wherever. Of course this was not a set up or anything thank god Mechelle was ready and did not miss a beat about her family having papers! I have a couple of things to say…
1. Your 8 years old your parents have not even tried to get papers?
2. Your 8 years old your parents talk in front of you about deportation and papers?
3. Whoever coached you needs to be found for this cheap shot at manipulating this.
P.S. This is the only country on earth that would put up with this crap!
Posted by: Sean | May 20, 2010, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
The “law” is extremely racist and offending. If you are going to start checking people’s citizenship do for people who like Canadian, Irish….It disgusts me to think our nation is soooo stupid they will let ignorant senators and governors take away our rights and allow racial profilling. its like the old saying, “when they came for the poor i didnt say anything–i figured someone else would. when they came for the uneducated i didnt say anything—figured someone else would. When they came for ME there was no one left to say anything. it starts w/something small like this but if u dont stand up for your rights you could be next. i am 1/4 mexican and my family has lived in texas for over 100 years. how dare if someone question my citizenship.
Posted by: jack | May 20, 2010, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
“That law in Arizona is dumb and racist. So no one ever answered what does an american look like. I am a US citizen but my ancestors were from Mexico and since I look Mexican are they going to pull me over for that? Well that is just plain dumb if you ask me”
Before you make stupid remarks, maybe you should read the law. In fact read the federal law that is already in effect assumming you can read.
NO one gets pulled over for looking mexican. they might get pulled over for drunk driving, Selling drugs, gang banging, or just flat breaking the law.
Posted by: Black Knight | May 20, 2010, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
How crazy the hate is today? How easily people forget their roots. America is a melting pot of immigrants. Our growth has depended on the conquering of others as all great societies have. What is separates us is our willingness to accept new people and cultures into the fold. We will find ourselves at the back of the pack if we do not stop this racism and hatred that has recently reared its ugly head. Old feelings die hard, and now they are really showing its self in full force. What that child expressed are real fears that a lot of people share.
Posted by: Eric | May 20, 2010, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
It is amazing that our own citizenry would sell us out to illegal foreigners. Quislings.
Posted by: MK | May 20, 2010, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
My great – great grand parents came over from Germany, they changed their name and learned English. The tried to blend in to what America was then in the late 1800′s. They pledged their allegance to America. The legal and illeagal immigrants of today have their hands out and fly flags of their forefathers not ours. ONE NATION, ONE GOD, ONE ALLEGANCE.
Posted by: redneckchix | May 20, 2010, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
This is so pathetic!anytime we talk about illegal aliens, we have to assume that they are mexicans and they are all criminals, so let me guess, how many canadians, asians, africans and europeans live here illegaly too?? and nobody says anything about them, I do agree that if any illegal immigrant commits a crime he needs to be deported, but between those who are illegal there’s a lot of them who come here to work hard to make our nation better, this is a reason why the rest of the worls hate us for thinking the way we think, arrogance, wonder why a friend of mind got beat up in France, not because he was in a fight, not because he was drunk and causing trouble, he got beat up just because he said he was an american and he got attacked by a bunch of people who hates americans, it’s true we have the right to grant whoever we want to here, but that doesn’t mean treat them like criminals and also their children doesn’t have to pay the price because some group of selfish people who has no clue how illegals survive here, I wonder how many americans live illegally in other countries?
Posted by: Robert | May 20, 2010, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
It is illeagal to smoke crack – it is illeagal to be in America with out proper documentation. Both are crimes. IT IS PAST TIME FOR LAW OF THIS LAND TO BE INFORCED, not just some of it all of it. Illeagal Immagrants says it all. Illeagal – means not allowed. IF you do not belong in America and have papers – go home. It is past time for us to take America back. The state of Arizona has it right!!
Posted by: redneckchix | May 20, 2010, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
I commended this little girl because she has the gut to speak out. Maybe she was told by her parents to do that,it does not matter. I don’t agree with coming and being here in America illegally for years. It is plainly a crime. Every land has its own laws and we must respect and obey the laws of the land But the fact is illegal immigration is the hottest subject now because the country is going through difficult economic times. Yes in the past, we enjoyed their cheap cost of hard labor and never asked any question, never raised any concern because it was in our benefit. But now illegal immigrants, mexicans particularly are costing us too much. It is not in our benefit, then BYE.
Posted by: Adeline | May 20, 2010, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
If you are here illegally, then come forward and let the government know and then the government should give you 18 months to file your papers and get legal. After that then enforce the Artizona law. That way Hispanics and ille3gals can’t say they weren’t given a chance. Tell all the Hispanics to reach out to all illegals and tell them to come forward. One of the biggest reasons that Illegals won’t do this is that they do NOT want to give 35% of their money back to the IRS like most citizens have to do. Plus they will no longer be eligible for free medical and hospital visits. I know a few of illegals and this is what they told me. They said they could make more money in Mexico than staying here and paying taxes.
Posted by: edward | May 20, 2010, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
I love this county… when people start leaving this country to move someplace better…. that’s when I will start to rethink how great the U.S. is.
Illegal means not legal. You are not ENTITLED to anything. If you are illegal, you have no say in the running of this country…
Take a look at other counties and their policies… we are, by far, the most open. A friend of mine is from England. She and her husband moved here and had to leave their oldest son behind. They are now able to bring him to the US. and here’s the kicker… the son has to wait two years.. he has a sponser (his parents) a job working for his parents but can not get in because there is a “waiting list”. Yet we will give our taxes to pay for housing,food, health care and education to anyone to be here illegally. This country – more over CA and most states that border MX, are in the condition it is because we can not keep giving away our resources at the cost of taking care of our own. I am all for anyone coming, working and being a part of this great state and country… but follow the law… so you have to wait a year or two…just because you can walk into another country doesn’t make you a legal citizen. you aren’t the first ones who have had to go through a hardship to get here.
I work with a young man from Hong Kong… he won’t become a citizen because it costs too much… yet he enjoys all the good parts of living here. If you dont’ want to be a true part of this country… please – no one is going to stop you from returning to YOUR HOMELAND.
Yes, we are all part of the human race. nNo one disputes that… You are entitles to be treated has a human… but you are not entitled to benefit from my working 50-60 hr a week to house, clothes and feed my family…
Posted by: arlene | May 20, 2010, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Ice is supposed to deport illegal aliens. Bet this one is safe. This administration is only interested in enforcing laws that are “politically correct.”
In this meaning “politically correct” means it gains more votes than it loses.
Unfortunately, this fully meets my expectations of Obama.
Posted by: Jack Atherton | May 20, 2010, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
In response to : edward | May 20, 2010 4:19:31 PM … “never asked any question, never raised any concern because it was in our benefit…”
It was not in “our” benefit, it was in the employer’s benefits who hired them. That’s why I want all such employers punished (jail) for every illegal immigrant deported.
Posted by: Law Abider | May 20, 2010, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
First I need to give some background so not to be generalized by the pro-ILLEGAL people.
1. I am a what is called first-generation immigrant, and I did the legal way.
2. I voted Democrat for every time.
That said, I have some questions for the pro-ILLEGAL people.
1. If I could and if my wife went though the trouble, spend the money the energy and endured the headaches to do this legally, why can’t they? what is SO SPECIAL about these people that they can break the law and DEMAND rights?
2. No one is disputing that some, even majority of the work and probably work very hard, but how does that mitigate that the mere fact they work here broke the law? not to mention, ID theft, tax fraud, assuming they are not using any social services of course. They have to continuously break the law to stay here. When was the last time the cop let anyone off of a speeding ticket because you said, “I work hard”???
3. It is well known that ILLEGAL depress wages. That said, it is strange to think that legalize the ILLEGAL will some how raise wages, because when the current ILLEGALs are legalized, they will be protected by the labor laws, and the employers who hire them before will simply looking for new ILLEGALs to fill their spot.
4. It is also well known that when you reward a behavior, people will do more of it. Some people saying that there are this and that requirement and fine, so it is not a really a reward. But the goal of these people is to stay here, and if you allow them to achieve their goal, to them, it is the ultimate reward. So…How do you stop a bad behavior by rewarding it?
5. It is also a complete myth that somehow legalize these people will be beneficial to the economy. Most if not all of the ILLEGALs here working at jobs that is low skill, low pay, with no health insurance. Therefore, they pay no income taxes (and if legalized, like to get earned income credit from the government — getting more money from the government). On top of that, we they can now legally get all the social services. Also, the government will pick up an additional 20 million people’s health insurance. How are we going to pay for that??? and How is that going to make the economy better????
6. People calling us anti law-breaker all kinds of names — racist, bigot, cold-heart, etc. The immigration all does not discriminate against any race, gender, age, and sexuality, etc. and we are only asking to enforce the law, How is that making us racist? It so happens that majority of the ILLEGALs come from south of the boarder, does that mean against ILLEGALs racist? But saying that the pro-ILLEGAL people made a special class of people — namely, Latinos, can break the law of this country. that make the pro-ILLEGAL people racist.
7. It is also a myth that profiling is always bad, or profiling is always the police’s fault. In fact, we human are bred to profile, we profile people by their looks, the way the dress, the way they speak, the way the act, every day. Profiling is one of the great tool for FBI to catch serial killers. When majority of the ILLEGALs come from the south of the border, maybe the Latino community should look at the mirror and wonder why they are profiled. My question would be, if there are 20 million Asian ILLEGAL immigrants in the country, you bet they will profile Asians instead of Latinos.
Now. I really want to see how the Pro-ILLEGAL people defend LAW BREAKERS.
Posted by: echo40 | May 20, 2010, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
i here legally going to school and i am not condoning illegals but america make their immigration laws so harsh but yet they can go to any country and they don’t have the problems that we as internationals have to go through. is it fair that you guys can come into other peoples country without much a hassale but when other people do come in to yours legal or illegal yall make noise about it. i am getting tired of this country and its double standarads
Posted by: niky | May 20, 2010, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
To Start off with, I am APPALLED at the ignorance of people. NO, not everyone can come to the U.S.A. LEGALLY. In certain countries, like the South American countries and Mexico, only the people who have MONEY are able to come here with a VISA. With this said, who are the low-income people, whom are the ones that predominantly reside in this country, going to literally “buy” a visa to come to this country.
I am not saying that illegal immigrants did not violate a law; however, if you knew that you cannot provide for your family because there is not possible way of earning enough money, wouldn’t you RISK YOUR life to come to a country where a job, even if it is a degrading, low paying, and hard, is made available? Think about this fact all of you ignorant ignoramus……THESE PEOPLE RISK THEIR LIFE TO COME AND WORK IN A COUNTRY WHERE THEY KNOW ARE NOT WANTED. HOWEVER, THEIR LOVE FOR THEIR FAMILY ENABLES THEM TO ENDURE THE HUMILIATION AND HARD JOBS THAT THEY HAVE TO PERFORM. Are you REALLY going to clean bathrooms for $7.00 an hour? Are you REALLY going to cut grass from 7 am until 7 or 8 p.m. for ONLY $7 an hour? Are you going to endure people insulting you and ORDERING you to work faster and faster? I didn’t think so.
Instead of ATTACKING illegal immigrants we shoudl all work together to find a way to remediate this problem. After all, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE CRIMINALS! The vast majority are hard working families that come to this country for a better life.
Posted by: Concerned Student | May 20, 2010, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Hey Will Darby,
We’ll never know what kind of job her mom is working because she is here illegally and not paying taxes. Of course she should be made aware her mom is a criminal.
Posted by: tom manning | May 20, 2010, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Why should some little girl be made aware that her mother is a criminal!? Are you kidding me? Would you tell a 5 or 6 year old girl if her mother were a bank robber or an arsonist? Come on! She’s a LITTLE GIRL. All she “needs” to know is how to behave like a little girl and to be nurtured by her mother.
Posted by: Sylvia | May 20, 2010, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
I understand that people are frustrated with the economy and everyone is looking for a scapegoat.
Our economy sucks because we are in a war that started with good intentions..but we got WAY over our heads. It didn’t work out the way we planned..and now we’re too far into it to just walk away. We’re “expected” to stay there and finish the job. We can’t afford it..but we’re apparently doing it anyway.
That is where the government’s money is going..and as for people living off of taxpayers..You have to blame that on your cities and towns that are handing money over to people who frankly don’t deserve it. I have no problem with Medicaid and Food Stamps if it’s going where needed. I DO have a problem with people who don’t try to help themselves.
People who are physically and mentally capable of working should be working for their checks..You want welfare and foodstamps? that’s fine…Clean the parks, help out at a homeless shelter, volunteer at a humane society..Earn your check..You wouldn’t be such a heavy burden to carry if you gave some back!
Posted by: Sylvia | May 20, 2010, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
I think people are using ‘criminal’ out of context. While illegal immigrants are ‘criminals’ they are not all committing criminal acts – robbery, rape, etc.
Wake up – there is no solution. Illegal immigrants DO take low paying jobs that most educated adults do not want. They do contribute to the economy as consumers. They may not pay taxes, but at $7 – $10 per hour they are low income enough that they wouldn’t pay taxes anyway. I am not thrilled that individuals here may have access to schools, and other social services, but I don’t have kids and 60% of my taxes go to pay for schools and that’s just life. My taxes also pay for the fire department and my house has never been on fire, but that’s just life.
Rules obviously have to be enforced to regulate the number of people entering the US, and anyone who is illegal who does commit a felony should be deported, but none if this is Obama’s doing (or even Georgie) so get over it.
Posted by: Topaz10 | May 20, 2010, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
so,you want people to come here legally like the guy who tried to blow up NY,or the 9/11.Or the veterans that pretend to be disabled just to get veterans benefits.illegal inmigrants dont damage the u.s.a. People always say “they don’t pay taxes”,but they get deductions from theirs check and pay medical and social ,something thay they will never get back,and yes some illegal inmigrants pay taxes.If any of us could be an illegal inmigrant for a day,i think our point of view will be different.WE ARE SO LUCKY!….
Posted by: AB | May 20, 2010, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Norma:
Typical Pro-ILLEGAL rant,
1. Yes ILLEGALs come with all race and nationalities, but MAJORITY of them come from south of the border. your just have no idea what profiling is right???? and Have you actually read my post before you started your rant????
Majority of the serial killers are white, fairly intelligent, between 25 to 35, that does not mean all white, intelligent, 25-35 year old are serial killers. Profile is looking for patterns, since majority of the ILLEGALs come from south of the border, then the profile is what it is… Like I said in my post, if majority of the ILLEGALs are Asians, then the police will profile Asians (which I happens to be btw), and I should look at the Asian community of why there are so many illegals before I complain about everything and blame everyone else.
2. Yes we are all humans, you have not answered my question. What makes them SO SPECIAL that we allow them to break the law and allow them to come in this country illegally??? and everyone else has to follow the rules? Should we take all the poor, uneducated, unskilled people in the world?????? I mean they are all human???? that said, If I come to burglarize your house, would you call the police? are you racist for report me??? I mean I am human….
3. Yes… Mexico is a poor country, but, have do you know that the RICHEST person in the world in Mexican? and there are lots of millionaires in Mexico???? The wealth gap in Mexico is very, very large, so… Mexico export all the poor people to our country, do nothing about their social services, and expect us to pay to take care of their own people? How fair is that???? shouldn’t all the rich people in Mexico do something to build up their own middle-class?????
You are probably right that I won’t last a day there, but what that has anything to do with what we are talking about???? there are many, many people in even worse situation, should we bring the all in???? I bet you won’t last a day in Egypt, Sudan, Iran, Iraq, etc. but does that mean we should bring the all here???? Are you willing to pay for all the people in the world????
People like you who claim to be caring, “They are all humans”, but guess what?? this is real life, and it is not fair. Excess tolerance and political correctness from people like you will be the downfall of this country.
Oh… and pretty much as soon as you starting calling me racist. I know you have no answer to any of the questions I posted.
Posted by: echo40 | May 20, 2010, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Sylvia
My frustration is not the economy is bad. Even if the economy is at its peak, we should still still enforce the law of this country.
Again. My questions is this, What makes these people SO SPECIAL that the rule applied to me does not apply to them? I mean my wife and I were separated for over a year before I can get her paper ready, Why is our emotional suffering worth less than these people???? Why is it that I and countless others can do this legally and they can’t????
Posted by: echo40 | May 20, 2010, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
I have faith in Az’s future and am willing to invest. I am going to start a
company requiring 20 employees. Not
wanting to be burdened with troubling
taxes, I plan to hire illegals. But,
only those blonde blue-eyed illegals.
Therefor, I’ll avoid any hassles as a
result of reasonable suspicion by
Sheriff Arpaio’s rangers.
Posted by: alf | May 20, 2010, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
The whole rhetoric about this being a discriminatory policy is driven by those who do not want to be caught. It should not be sufficient to just pull somebody over because their skin is dark but if there is reasonable suspicion or they have violated law they would be required to provide ID, citizen or not. No ID? That would be a reasonable assumption maybe they are illegal; besides,any of us would be detained under those circumstances since we violated other laws. If found to be an illegal immigrant, they should be prosecuted as there are EXISTING FEDERAL LAWS mandating this.
Posted by: Not illegal | May 20, 2010, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
The illegal immigrants ARE NOT CHEAP LABOR. They have come here where most DO NOT PAY TAXES, yet many ( not all ) live off of government programs paid for by the American citizens and LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. The drain on our economy is crippling this nation and has got to stop or the United States will not be here for our grandchildren.
Other countries do not allow this to happen because they realize it is not a sustainable path; we need to follow their lead.
Posted by: Not illegal | May 20, 2010, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Illegals are illegal. They don’t pay any taxes or contribute to the US, they only take from it. They are RAPISTS!!!!! And, now that we know this little girl’s mother is illegal, someone out there in the immigration office better figure out where she lives and handle it.
Posted by: Christen | May 20, 2010, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Let’s look at this comment — “They do contribute to the economy as consumers. They may not pay taxes, but at $7 – $10 per hour they are low income enough that they wouldn’t pay taxes anyway.”
There are other taxes that everybody does pay if they are legal, such as social security taxes, which millions of illegal aliens actually do somehow get money from. Also, the free health care they are afforded where others of us have to mortgage our homes to pay for.
As a natural born citizen, my employer is required by federal law to obtain proof that I am legal to work in the US. How do so many employers get by ignoring this law without being prosecuted and/or fined? If we did not hire them at depressed wages, they would stop coming. Maybe we should look at one of the root causes of the real problem…
Posted by: A Wanderer | May 20, 2010, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
I dont be belive they should deport all illegal immigrants i mean there are a lot of them here illegally doing crime and stealing but there are a lof of immigrants that do work really hard and pay their taxes too so it shouldnt be fair to get deport all of them..To me imigrants r more hard working than the people that r born here. A lot of this american like to see on their ass and live with the goverment money so dont only say that immigrants are the only ones that do that…I dont support the dumb immigration law
Posted by: Gisselle | May 20, 2010, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Most people do not understand the Arizona Law. One of the reasons that people are up in arms about it, is that it gives local law enforcement the right to enforce the Federal Law that has been in place for the last 70 years. These people are here illegally. What if someone moved into your house while you were gon. When you got back you would call the cops to have them removed because what they did is against the law. That is what the Arizona Law says. If I go to France one of the most Liberal Countries in the World, I had better have every legal docuement I need on my person or I will be arrested and escorted out if I can prove who I am. As far as the little girl goes, Her mother has been here illegally for 7 years, why didn’t she file her papers. If she has a social security number it might actually be stolen, that is why most have been deported in Arizona. Make sure you find out who is supplying these fake ID’s to Hispanics, oh I am sorry, most of the time other hispanics. Oh and don’t call me racist my Grandmother great aunts, and uncles were born and raised in mexico they all came here legally or became legal shortly after
Posted by: Kim | May 20, 2010, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Hi!! I am an American and my husband is British. He came here legally. I think all immigrants should follow the rules like my husband did. It’s not fair to children but that is how it is. A man in the next town from me committed suicide recently because he came to United States at the age of 8 and now he cannot get a job or a driver’s license. Too bad his parents didn’t think before he became an adult.
Posted by: PBW | May 20, 2010, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Echo40
I understand what you’re saying..but do you think everyone should endure that because you had to?
Wouldn’t you like to see the process easier or more attainable.
I also think people should be screened before coming here too.
You have to pass a background check to own firearms or to get credit or an apartment, job,etc.
Posted by: Sylvia | May 21, 2010, 8:44 am 8:44 am
Sylvia,
They are being screened…
We’re getting only the WORST of Mexico’s citizens. The screening process that Calderon and his corrupt predecessors has implemented is working PERFECTLY!!
Posted by: Is_It_November___Yet | May 21, 2010, 9:33 am 9:33 am
Well…obviously we should implement and enforce our own “process”.
Ultimately, it’s this governments choice who stays nd who goes.
Posted by: Sylvia | May 21, 2010, 9:38 am 9:38 am
To Echo40:
The rules were made for a reason. My husband also had to go for a criminal background check. Also a complete physical including a lung x-ray. Imagine what diseases are being reestablished when people sneak in over the border not to mention what crimes might have been committed. The process is not that hard to do. Just it is fair to every immigrant to do it the legal way. No looking over one’s shoulder unless a person sneaks in. Like I said before: The rules were made for a reason.
Posted by: PBW | May 21, 2010, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
We have American citizens in prison for tax evasion in our own country. We have others jailed for identity theft. And yet, there are those that argue we should not prosecute illegal immigranst for doing the same thing? These people have committed a crime we do not forgive of our own citizens and yet we are going to let them get away with it? And then we reward them by alowing them to stay?
How can anybody even begin to think this is justifiable?
Posted by: A Wanderer | May 21, 2010, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
They think that the US is nothing with out them they think they are the main support of the US becasue they will work for lower wages.I know for a fact they are money hungry too because I work with over 100 of them every day they are never happy with their wage always wanting more just like the people of the USA which is fine but our government is bending over backwards to give them everything when we have families right here in our own neighborhoods that can’t make their bills or pay for medical or buy grocerys…but out Democratic Government feel they should give the USE to all illegal immirgants after all they get businesses and homes at our expense of our taxes and hard work I am not saying there are not lazy us citizens because I have seen many low life criminals and drug dealers and prostitutes that are also living off of our government and we evern put fathers and mother in jail for not paying child support or taxes, but here you have proof they have flood the US and we talk tuff like we will deport them then a little girl speaks and Michelle is personally handleing her mother legallization to the US…next thing you know all the little girls and boys of illegalls will be writing to Michelle and then they all will be legal so why do we fine the employers who are damed if they hire them and damed if they done….I THINK THEY ALL NEED TO GO BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY IF THEY ARE NOT HERE LEGALLY…AND THE CHILDREN BORN HERE THEY SHOULD BE SENT BACK TOO BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT IS WHY THEY WERE BORN TO GETR MOM & DAD CITIZENSHIP IN THE USA….NO WONDER THE ECONOMY SUCKS….PUT A REPUBLICAN BACK IN OFFICE WE WERE SAFER
Posted by: Joe | May 22, 2010, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
This was posted by A Wanderer “They may not pay taxes, but at $7 – $10 per hour they are low income enough that they wouldn’t pay taxes anyway.”
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Please don’t pull the “they work dirty cheap and don’t make enough to pay taxes” crap.
Until a few month ago… I was making 8.50 an hour and still had to pay fed., state, Medicare, Workers comp, Sui and other taxes. And if I wanted insurance it would cost me 180.00 a month.. only working 24 hrs a week didn’t afford me the “perk” of getting insurance.
The contractor replacing a fence, asked me if I would “give” the worker 90.00 for the days work because he “deserved” it. I told him “NO”. You hired the guy, you can pay him out of your profit. I wasn’t make 90.00 a day…and I sure as hell wasn’t paying for someone to not pay taxes.
Being born here is a blessing. But it comes at price. We support anyone who feels the U.S. owes them. People come here with big dreams and work hard to make them come true. Then then are those who come here with a handout… take, take, take and never give back. They want a say – and speak against the U.S. for not giving more.
If the U.S. is such a horrible place -Go back to where you came from and make it a better place. Stop tearing down this coutry.
Posted by: arlene | May 24, 2010, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Working for minimum wage is a form a taxation no matter where you come from and no matter if you don’t pay directly to the IRS. Minimum wage workers provide you with services and products that many people couldn’t afford otherwise. The cheapest food on the planet… picked for your table by people working for impoverishing wages. That’s the real welfare system at work in the US. They subsidize YOUR welfare by being paid less. I’ve never met am immigrant, documented or otherwise, that wasn’t busting their buns to take care of themselves and their families.
Posted by: Joe | May 28, 2010, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
My statement about not paying taxes was correct. First of all, at $8.50/hr, the typical person will get all state and federal taxes back at the end of the year. Second, employers pay workmans comp insurance, not the employee.
The point being raised was that earlier statements that illegal immigrants are paying taxes and putting money into the economy is a falsehood if they are making those wages. Also, those same people are using services designed for our own lower income services in the form of food stamps and medical care. They are using charity as a form of income to support themselves and their families.
Posted by: A Wanderer | May 28, 2010, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
I know that this country was built from diversity! do you know where your ansestors came from??? were the legal?? were they illegal?? bet you know the answer to that huh?
Posted by: annie | June 3, 2010, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
For those saying that illegals don’t pay any taxes, how do you know that? Where’s your proof? I live in Washington state where agriculture is our HUGE export and obviously, the ones working the fields and orchards are usually illegal immigrants. Having lived with a family of illegal immigrants for the majority of my life I have witness them filing and sending in their taxes. And it’s not just this one family, several of the illegal families come to us to help them do their taxes or to refer them to other resources that will do the same.
Posted by: Jennifer C | June 13, 2010, 1:30 am 1:30 am
They may pay taxes but….they get a lot more from welfare, free medical, food stamp,wic etc…..my Dr. went out of business because he was not being paid to deliver their babies. What is going to happen when a lot more people lose their jobs, where are the people on welfare and that is here illegally going to get their money from then, what is the government going to do then?
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