Mark Souder to Resign Amid Affair with Staffer

Doesn’t it seem that if you’re going to run on issues such as family values you should walk the walk? Why are we always hearing about these conservatives that legislate one way and live another?

“I sinned against God, my wife and family..” LOl…LOL…So reminiscent of “good old boy Jimmy Swaggert”. When…oh when is the religious right going to start thinking about the real issues that confront our nation (i.e. oil dependency, lack of manufacturing base, all the uninsured, declining median incomes, the trade deficit etc.; etc.; etc.) and quit “vetting” their stupid candidates based on their “family values and religious beliefs”? How utterly shallow!

Such silly comments. Did this guy preach family values? Do all democrats preach sleaze and therefore can never be held accountable for good private behavour? That seems to be what the liberals think is great!

his guy must think he’s john Edwards, Bill Clinton, JFK, OOps he’s not a democrat.

“jonny” … I love it when people of your “philosophy” can’t discuss the “issue at hand”. i.e. why so many “conservatives/Republican voters get “fooled” by the family values/religious-osity propaganda. All you can do is name call someone a “liberal” and say they are for “sleaze”. Are you even beginning to figure out why so many educated moderates have left the Party? And to “GeorgieBushuie”…you are probably right with your 11:59 post. I am sure that these people in that district “gave up on actually using their brains” a long time ago.

“Nearly all men can stand adversity,” Abraham Lincoln said, “but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power.”

I do feel sorry for his family. It will be an interesting meeting when I return to visit family in this district who supported this fool because of his stance on “family values”–and they will have to admit I was right when I said those who trumpet the loudest usually have something to hide.

Another conservative Republican hypocrite. YouTube has a video of him and his mistress extolling the virtues of abstinence. Amazing. It’s like we keep acting out the same story over and over with different actors.

My Oh! My, this soap opera is good…

SURPRISE!!Whether they are Democrats or Republicans, they all are hatched under the same rock. All are corrupt bottom feeders!

Some of you are missing the real point here. Yes, Dems have also had affairs, which have been well-publicized. But the kicker here, as in so many of these Conservative stories, is the utter hypocrisy!! You don’t go out of your way preaching about “family values” and then behave in the opposite way. THIS is what’s so flagrantly different between the Dems and Repubs who have “sinned” – Repubs are the worst hypocrites, because of their lies about family values.

If it’s o.k. to come out and say “I’ve sinned against my wife” after they’ve been caught, what’s the point? They knew they were sinning against the wife when they climbed into bed with another woman. THAT’S when they need to slam on the breaks. I don’t have any patience with these guys at all!

“I will say anything to hold power. And if the people are stupid enough to follow me, so be it.”

The Democrat lies… the Republican cheats on his wife and resigns… lets kick out the Dem, at least the GOP’er decided to fire himself!!!

TheLoyal – Only you would get on a link like this and try to twist it. Mark Souder has for years played the smug above it all Christian. These past few years he’s gotten quite gifted at demonizing liberals as he does it. I live here, I should know. How many will it take before you guys realize this is all lip service over there? We’re up to quite a few now.

HAHAHA!! Teach people not to use this kind of platform to get a job(elected). The biggest loud mouths are always the guilty ones. Thank god for people like Barney Frank, who lives as he is, nothing to hide and with no shame.

I want to go back to the days when politicians didn’t preach about family values. I think that is a minister’s job…and you have the right to choose to listen to your minister or not, depending on whether you want to go to church. These idiots get up there and you can’t help but hear them, it’s hard to find a channel that is politics free unless you watch Nick at Nite. I also want to go back to the days when politicians had affairs and they were left alone to deal with their private matters….oh, uhhmmm…privately! I don’t give a rat’s behind who these people sleep with. When we had a bunch of womanizing, hell-raising, alcoholics in Washington, the country really seemed to be run a whole lot better…seriously, ever look up the “private lives” of the signers of the Declaration? They may have been God-fearing men…they had reasons to fear God and enjoyed getting in that shape…and they left all that out of their running of the country!

He must have paid her well.

A simultaneous admission of infidelity and a resignation by another republican family values hypocrite smells like there may be some gayness to this story. The republicans who cheat with females usually stick around for a while.

He is one ugly dude.

The headline reads, “I sinned against my wife”. He actually said, “I sinned against my God, my wife and my family…”. Apparently it’s more newsworthy to sin against one’s wife than against one’s God.

I want to know how politicians are supposed to be able to “impose a moral code” upon anybody? Separation of church and state…people do not need to get their moral code from the government…even if the politicians are “moral”.

The following was what Mark Souder said after winning his last election: “I don’t know what’s going on in the rest of the country, but here in Fort Wayne we still believe in morals and values.” Loser.

TheLoyal – Mark Sanford. Gee, he just went to see his lover last weekend.

secondlook —- Where’d you grow up…. Illinois, California, or New York….?? ha-ha!!!

“Justmyopinion…I have a different twist on the start of your 1:24 post. I would like to go back to the days where the “preachers, ministers and religious scammers” stayed the _ell out of politics”. Ever notice the “downturn and decline” in our country since they have “gotten involved”??? That is what happens to countries who become “faith based” versus “intellectual and science based thinkers”.

TheLoyal – Try Lexington, KY. Try I’m a centrist only right now anything left of this freak Palin mentality appears extreme. Or I used to be a centrist. Right now I can say with great honesty it’s doubtful I could pull a republican lever. They stop the hate and stupidity and I’ll reconsider.

TheLoyal – Sleep thru Clinton?

Typical republican hypocrite womanizer. Probably gay too judging by all the other scandals. Usually when people rant and point fingers at a minority or other group, they too have the very “faults” that they hate in the other. They are engaging in projection and self hate…seeing what they hate about themselves in the other person. In such cases, The Universe usually sees to it that their hypocrisy is exposed. It is actually a Universal law. Since we are here on Earth to evolve and to grow spiritually, the Universe is in the business of mirroring our faults and shortcomings, and of exposing what lurks in our unconscious minds. These behaviors indicate where we are most wounded and are a sort of pay dirt in the evolutionary healing process…for the root cause is mostly always unconscious. It is all for healing purposes. This is why Haggard, Larry Craig, Mark Foley and others have been exposed as if almost by magic…and certainly not by their own choice.

CND Fox: I agree with your post except for one thing…I don’t have a problem with the country being faith-based. However, I believe that the elected officials need to keep their private lives and how they honor/dishonor that faith to themselves. It’s not anybody’s business but his wife’s!
And for all you people that are spouting about Reps v. Dems out there and how morally sacred the Dems are…get a life. They are all the same…and they all need to be voted out so we can start over with a whole new bunch of liars.

Good riddance to yet another sex-obsessed conservative hypocrite. Souder is particularly loathsome for his over-the-top crusade against marijuana which included sponsoring the law that denied public loans to young people who happened to get caught smoking a joint (while more serious crimes carried no such sanction). And to blame his resignation on “the poisonous environment of Washington D.C.” underscores just how vacant of virtue such small men are.

Do people need any more reasons to NOT VOTE REPUBLICAN? Why would Americans vote for the very party that got us into all these tragic catastrophes anyway? Are Americans that careless with their country? That is like throwing your son out of the house for repeated drug abuse and taking him back after just a verbal apology. The apology does nothing to heal the disease…the root cause. Republicans are sick and they practically ruined this country. A “throw the bums” out attitude will backfire on American voters. Americans will actually give up invaluable experience in the Congress.

okay..somebody explain this to me…why does it matter that he is “conservative”…do liberals not have sex?…or affairs….or sin…? Come on! This has absolutely nothing to do with what party the guy belongs to!

JustMyOpinion – It does when it’s the party that tries to demonize all liberals as though they’re without morals.

secondlook — So your saying that someone who “tries” to beat the straight and narrow path… but slips.. is worse than the trash that sows his wild oats every week??? — Is hypocrisy so bad?? Or is hypocrisy on the “right” so bad??

OH MY!!! —- ABC actually switched the top story to the LYING DEMOCRAT instead of the CHEATING REPUBLICAN!!! —- maybe they ARE getting more balanced!!!

One more thing TheLoyal – Trying to paint all liberals as “trash that sows their wild oats every week” is BS too. By now it should be clear you don’t corner the market on ethics or values over there. Is it possible for any of you to operate on anything other than running down liberals anymore?

JustMyOpinion – Payback for the Bush years of complete demonization. That continues. It’s all they have. I’m sick of it.

To LoyalOpp and JustMyopinion… LoyalOpposition…your 1:52 post …so what has that got to do with today’s world? That was in the “past” and there it should remain. And to JustmyOpinion…please take the time and read Kevin Phillips book, “American Theocracy”. You might “change” your opinion of a “faith based” country and how it always contributes to the decline of a nation or civilization. He is a Republican…so NO “liberal or socialist” accusations please.

secondlook — I NEVER implied it was “liberals” sowing wild oats…. It could have been ANYONE… it was a metaphore for the “good” and the “bad”!! —- read it again… please don’t assume I was speaking of left and right…. are our discussions going down that road….??

It’s worse in this case because for years this man has gotten on the news and put me down because I didn’t vote for him. He has judged me, demonized me, and pretty much suggested I’d go to hell. This smug judgmental religion is not the religion of Jesus. I personally hate it because in my heart I am just sure they use Jesus for votes and I have a huge problem with it. You do not sit and preach without walking the walk. And you sure as hell do not preach all this hate. On those bad liberals that sow sin all week long vs. you guys.

lol…CND Fox: If pressed to state an affiliation, I’m a Republican too, and I’m not liberal either. But, I typically do not generalize between either party…generalizations just typically don’t work out well. However, if you read one book by one author and place a great deal of stock in it, then I’d say you are short-sided. There is a history of the fall of non-faith-based countries also. Rome comes to mind. If you will read what I said, it is that I don’t have a problem with a faith-based country. I do however, have a problem with politicians trying to legislate morality. These are two entirely different concepts.

SecondLook: I’m debating, not trying to start a fight. I state my views, you comment, I comment back. That’s pretty much what I thought these comment boards were for. I don’t call names, and I don’t get beligerant. Pardon me for not agreeing with you.

JustMy – I have good ole allergies eating my head off so maybe it’s me. Though “what hole did you crawl out of again?” isn’t real soft.

Now you’re cracking me up.

I would agree that if the far right went around a corner they’d run into the far left. I think most of us are pretty moderate and in general want the same things. It’s more an argument of how really. How it’s come to this is beyond me. I thought after this last election we nipped “extreme.” I never dreamed we were in for them upping the ante. To be honest I find myself wondering if we’re just too far gone at this point. I pity our children. My generation has blown things.

What is wrong with these people – do they think they will get away with it? This sniveling in front of the cameras after the fact sickens me – more than the act – particularly from so-called moral crusaders. That republican family values schtick just keeps on back-firing. Give it up!

” in my opinion, to legislate morality. When you go there…it’s getting all to socialist for my likings ” — Wow, you’re pretty good. It takes real nerve to spin this story about the downfall of another GOP hypocrite into a critique of socialism!

Well Mark…if you had read the thread of the conversation and put all my comments together, you would figure out that critiquing socialism is not how that whole thing started. You jumped into the middle of a conversation there and made a judgment,then smacked my hand over it. Not cool.

Mark – Just My was applying that to both parties. He/she is rational like that.

If he was Italian this would not be a big deal. But when you act holier then thou and spew that “family values” BS you know they’re screwing someone other then their wife! Typical Rightwing behavior!

And another republican hypocrite goes down in flames…

Why does anyone even listen to the “Family Values” types anymore? Isn’t it painfully evident that their lifestyle choice is a sham?

secondlook…actually “both”…and unfortuanetly, yes, it is very familiar/similar indeed. But the main point that Mr. Phillips points out is the “anti-intellectual and anti-science” mentality that existed in all these civilizations that contributed so greatly to their decline and eventual fall. And “yes, unfortunately” that sounds very “familiar” too. Just take one look as to what is going on in the South and other “fundamentalist/reconstructionist/evangelical” areas of the country.

CND Fox: Let me just say it this way…there is a huge difference between there being a “faith based country,” and a country that pretends to be faith based. At the moment, I think we are a country that pretends. You reference the south…grew up there myself, couldn’t wait to get out…huge number of bible thumpers that don’t practice what they preach. But, they aren’t all that way, and it isn’t just because it’s the south. There are a large majority of this type personality right now in the entire country. People have gotten way far into preaching the good life and not living it. This is where the politicians come in…they have gotten really good at telling everyone who is to blame for their lot in life…it is always somebody else’s fault, (case in point, this guy is blaming the atmosphere in DC) nobody has to take the blame for their own lives going to hell in a handbasket any longer because the politicians are happy to point the finger at who sent you there. When this country was founded, it was faith-based in reality…not just on paper. And please do not confuse my “faith” as “religion”…those are two different things. People with true faith will act in a certain way and everyone benefits. If a country is “faith-based”, then you come closer to a group of people working towards the common good, as opposed to seeing what they can get out of it for themselves and whoever gives them the most money. BUT…still…I don’t think morality within the faith-based country can, nor should be, legislated.

justmyopinion…you and I are really almost sayiny the same thing. The problem is unfortunately there is a good 30-40% of our nation who have “turned their brains off” and tried tio replace that with “blind faith” (however you want tio define that) Too many believers in the inerrancy of the Bible, too many believers in the “left behind series” by leHaye, too many “thumpers” who believe in an Armageddon. So instead of trying to make our nation and world better they just shrug their shoulders and say it is the “Supreme Being’s will”. The funny part is that is how many past civilizations (who have declined and lost their status as a leading economic power) have gone through the same “philosophical thought process” and a resultant decline ? Read the book by Mr. Phillips…you won’t regret it. That is IF you like to learn.

Politicians and morality are mutual exclusive. There is no such thing as a “moral” or “family values” politician. Politics and morality are polar opposites.

He should have learned from his Republican philandering, judgmental value preaching friends like David Vitter, Mark Sandford, John Ensign and be proud of his adulterous ways and stay on. Look values is just to impose on others. Republicans like John Macain, Newt Gingrich only use it when they want to rile the “useful idiots.” while some others are just sleazy like John Edwards these republicans double on the Hypocrisy too! No wander Jesus was harder on the religious hypocrites than the tax collectors and prostitutes!

I am abolutely loving this! Ok, Dems have their share of cheaters, but at least they’re not pretending to have a halo. Republicans/Conservatives/Family values are most often used interchangeably… afterall, Republicans worked hard to promote this.
I wanted to believe that “marriage is between a man and woman”; that there is not greater love, no stronger committment between two people that’s more perfect, sanctified and pleases God more than this heterosexual version… yet, men of the cloth, men with power, and the standard bearers of our times just keep proving that marriage is afterall a union between two people who is committed to each other in lifelong partnership — which, by the way, you have to love for it to last — that’s “marriage”. Souder, you naughty boy!

Just another plain as day example that a marriage is rarely ever between one man and one woman.

I just have to wonder how stupid conservatives are. They keep supporting these hypocrites who preach family values and yet violate their own rules.
Of course these dittoheads will continue to vote for the GOP because well, they are dittoheads.
And why their wives stick with them is also amusing. THey must be desperate

If a democrat has an affair, he generally gets away with it easier because he hasn’t been running around blabbing about God, family values, how much he despises gays, and making abstenence videos. On the other hand a republican generally doesn’t get…….

justmyopinion…in reply to your 4:43 post. And I believe that anyone who “dumps his woes in the hands of God” (as you put it) is very stupid not religious at all. Or maybe you could say “man-made” religious. It is very, very funny to me how so many people give those who attend “man made (and interpreted) religious institutions” on a regular basuis a “pass” when they do not strive to be the best they can be from an educated, intellectual standpoint. After all…it is my understanding that is why we were given a brain. To question and think with; not adhere to blind obedience and someone else’s “interpretation” of how religion should be. And that is exactly what “turns me off with the right wing religious fanatics”. No wonder they are “constantly fleeced” by their ministers and preachers. When you “give up your mind”…you have given up the greatest gift you were given. LOL…LOL…And these same “wing nuts” worry about a “government takeover”. How utterly pathetic!

It doesn’t matter that these so-called “family values” conservatives turn out to to cheat on their wives and disgrace their families, the right-wingers will vote for the Republican in this district anyway.
Republican politicians just have to utter that time tested phrase “cut your taxes” or “tax and spend liberals”, or the latest — Obama is a Socialist, and the base will vote over and over for the Republican.

Just gotta love those Republican “Family Values”!

Hypocrisy will do more to destroy the American way of life than attacks of Islamic extremists.

I don’t feel a person’s sex life, religious life or family life has anything to do with how he/her do their jobs. This is personal, private business and the entire “Family Values” movement or platform is merely a way to divert the nation’s attention from more pressing issues.

Another conservative Republican hypocrite. YouTube has a video of him and his mistress extolling the virtues of abstinence. Amazing. It’s like we keep acting out the same story over and over with different actors.
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I guess we can paint all the liberals with the same brush too. With Edwards on the scene acting like the ideal husband standing by his wife who has cancer, then having the affair with Rielle Hunter, you can say all liberals are hypocrites.
And with Clinton on the scene sonme years before we can say its the same story over and over with different actors.

Just about all of our politicans are haveing an affair with sombody. We even had a President get a job by a staffer. Can these guys think with their real heads or not. What a bunch of loosers.

It used to be that when a Republican was elected…you had best sit on your wallet. Now, you have to lock up the kids, too!