Cheney, Huffington Spar on BP

hi cheney did it sold out to bp in the bush years

Huffington is an IDIOT. I don’t know why anyone gives her any respect. She doesn’t deserve it. She is just plain stupid…

I have watched This Week for many years. I find having Liz Cheney as a participant in the Roundtable to be both offensive and distracting. I like hearing divergent perspectives, which is why Arianna Huffington and George Will are such great participants. But Liz Cheney has partisan, family biases that run through everything that she says, and worst of all, she just does not know how to make a comment and then stop to let others participate. She monopolizes the discussion, interupts others, and justs runs on and on, which defeats the whole purpose of the Roundtable. Frankly, as much as I regret it, I am going to have to change to an alternate station when the opening of This Week announces that Liz Cheney is a discussion partisipant. And, again, it is not her viewpoints that offend me — because frequently I agree with her points, and frequently I agree with Mr. Will. The problem with her is she does not know how to participate in a discussion or a conversation. There is no reason to watch your program when she is a participant. Please replace her with someone who can articulate the same general arguments but in a way that is based on reason and facts, not partisan and family bias, and who knows how to engage in a discussion — because that is supposed to be the reason for your show.

The common mantra from Cheney’s comments and most republicans is let’s forget about the past. Let’s forget what brought us to this point and move on. It wasn’t deregulation that caused this, it was Obama’s inability to foresee the future (He is, after all, the messiah) and not work faster to regulate/curb this type of drilling in the first place–drilling that EVERY republican candidate, senator, congress person and governor has advocated for. The fact and the only fact is that what you do in the past DOES affect the future. There is no denying this. Republicans seem to think that they can defy the time space continuum and pretend that the laws of physics (every action has a reaction) don’t apply to them when THEY make mistakes. Most if not all of out problems today are a direct result of what happened during the Bush-Cheney years–years we would all like to forget and based on her comments today Liz Cheney included.

Please keep Liz cheney in check, she is allowed to dominate the conversation by increase in decibels. I like the roundtable for conversational diversity, she is allowed to stifle response by constant interruption. I also do not enjoy her eye rolling which has no place in political discourse.

republicans are a walking talking hypocrisy. Politicians on both sides are increasingly corrupt individuals with deep moral failings, but republicans are the ones who put on aires depicting themselves as righteous, wholesome, models of character which is what makes them so infuriating!
“Deregulate wall street, and the oil companies. Regulation is bad for business and would have a chilling effect on growth”–Every Republican
“Why didn’t Obama regulate the oil industry sooner?”–Liz Cheney
Hypocrite, Liar, Thief!

My question is really directed at the producers. Why would a reputable news organization have a shill and apologist for the Bush/Cheney administration like Liz Cheney appear as a panel member. I could tell you going in that in every instance the Obama administration would be wrong or worse in every situation discussed according to Ms. Cheney. Her father is responsible for many of the worst decisions made for our nation in the last 30 years and she has spent the better part of the last two years attempting to shift that responsibility through raw political punditry and bald-faced lies. She is nothing more than a political hack complicit in her fathers crimes. If This Week continues to use her as a panel participant I’m am going to be forced to give up a long standing Sunday morning ritual. To bad.

I too have watched This Week for many years. To denigrate this news program by adding Arianna Huffington with her constant grin and unintelligible discussions makes me angry. I see others disagree with me but I find Liz Cheney to be bright, articulate and smart as opposed to the undecipherable babble from Huffington. To state on a nationally televised news program that George Bush is to blame for the oil leak in the gulf is so preposterous that it defies understanding. When she get’s the chance to speak she gets loud and defensive and no one else gets a chance to respond which is made even worse because she is so STUPID it hurts my head. Even George Will has to shake his head in disbelief. Plus, you can’t understand a word she says. I won’t give up watching “This Week”, but I will definitely will speed thru the segment where Huffington tries to talk. I can get more substance by watching the weather channel until she’s gone.

Maybe going to the sponsors of our news media should be the next step. Liz Cheney has NO business being allowed to spout her false opinions without being challenged – in short, keep Liz off the air ways (it’s bad enough that we have to listen to Palin squeaky high voice)

John King,
Its not about getting over it and continuously blaming Bush-Cheney. It’s that Republicans are now blaming Obama for the cause of this spill. the factual rebuttal to that assertion is that the cause of this was a deregulation of the industry under the watch of Bush-cheney. Again forgetting the past does not change what effect those mistakes have on the present. If you ignore history, you’re bound to repeat it. Deregulation caused this, Obama should have moved quicker to curb deregulation but I think he had a few other things to deal with as well. two wars–one illegitimately caused by Bush-cheney, a deregulated housing and stock market again by Bush Cheney and crumbling social structure that was ignored by Bush Cheney. So, yes we do need to put blame on the past because that is precisely why we are where we are today.
Stop trying to ignore this simple fact. If you don’t pay your mortgage and your house is foreclosed upon, you can’t just simply forget the fact that you didn’t pay your mortgage and expect everything to be fine. The fact is what you did in the past has a direct link and cause of the problems you are facing today.

Liz Cheney wouldn’t know the truth if it smacked her in the face. That shouldn’t be a surprise seeing the household she grew up in. The Bush-Cheney administration was a deregulation dream for Wall Street and corporations. Both with the economy and the oil spill, we’re seeing some of the results of what happens when corporate sympathizers run government. What’s really sad is the American people, because of their frustrations, are probably going to give the keys back to those who drove the car into the ditch.

Ms. Huffington was quick to blame Bush/Cheney but she gave no specific examples of how Bush/Cheney helped to cause this oil disaster. She just blamed Bush/Cheney. If the Bush/Cheney policy
towards the oil industry was so terrible, why didn’t this new administration change it upon entering the White House instead of getting bogged down the health care plan and other spending sprees. We can’t forget about the thousands of oil wells that run successfully day in and day out.
I think we need to examine the role of environmentalists who have forced energy companies to drill in more difficult areas.
All that said, because of Halliburton’s
role in this story, Ms. Cheney was not a good choice for the panel.

How many times did Cheney lie. Her usual talking points deserve to be on Fox but on ABC? And who even listens to the evil spawn of the Halliburton king. Only repub tools who can’t accept the truth. Hate big government until they don’t hate it. Thanks Arianna for setting the dumb bimbo straight. She better go back to Fox where she is never fact-checked or questioned. Tapper, maybe you ought to go with her. Cant’ wait for Amanpour. She’ll have Liz for lunch even though I doubt she’d have the nobody on her show.

Using the Sarah Palin obsessed Arianna Huffington’s logic, Bill Clinton was responsible for not protecting American from the 9/11 attacks.

“Using the Sarah Palin obsessed Arianna Huffington’s logic, Bill Clinton was responsible for not protecting American from the 9/11 attacks”
Deformed logic is notoriously unreliable apparently….the outgoing Clinton administration repeatedly warned the Bush administration that al Queda was planning a major attack on the US….but Bush flat out ignored them. I haven’t heard a peep about Bush repeatedly warning Obama to watch out for those offshore oil platforms.

Sorry David, the time for blame is indeed now. If events that led to this disaster aren’t brought to light when the spotlight is on, it allows those who are to blame to retreat into the night when the news abates on the spill. Much of the problem is that the past administration allowed the oil industry too much latitude by deregulation. They wanted to go into deeper water, they weren’t forced there. Too many in Congress are in the pockets of big oil, and other corporations. Corporations don’t care about us, it’s all about profits and shareholders. They control our government today, which includes the media. We need some radical change to reverse the way things have gone in this country for decades. Unfortunately, there aren’t enough votes to make the strong changes that are needed, and with all the misinformation the American people are subjected to, there will probably be less votes to correct the situation in the next Congress. I’m with the Tea Party folks in there needs to be changes in government, just not the ones they think need to be made. Their way will only strengthen the corporate stranglehold. Corporations love less government.

Like others have commented on here… This Week and its producers have dropped the level of this program from news to info-tainment. This was my favorite show, but the debacle with Carl Rove sounded the death knell for your legitimacy. And Liz Cheney’s appearance today was nearly as bad. Yelling over other guests and falsley restating their comments. What are her credentials for being a round table member, being part of her dad’s administration? And Ariana is just as bad.
Where is Cokie Roberts?
Your job is to report news and its consequences, not to compete with Jerry Springer. Please folks, Lets get back to political reporters as round table guests, not political hacks.

Most of you have to go back and read your comments after you post them and realize how crazy you sound. Everything that goes wrong is not Bushs fault, and everything that goes right (not much) is not because of Barry either. You do know how much money BP gave to Obama during his run don’t you? How about Goldman? I hate to break the bad news but if you cheat on your wife or burn the chili it’s not because Bush made you do it. Get over it. This leftist is a disaster. Arianna? Kos? And you guys are questioning Lizs credentials? Amazing.

Mel.under who’s administration was this leaking well drilled? Who’s administration passed it for safety on three different occasions?Under what administration’s watch DID EVERY DROP of oil flow from this well?Skip, if the Clinton administration was so concerned about Al Qaida why didn’t they do a damn thing after US Navy sailors were murdered on the USS Cole?Actions speak louder than words.

Austin: The blame BELONGs with BP. Obama places it quite correctly, and so do I, and most people with any sense. And if you know how to stop the leak, you’re smarter than everyone in the oil industry, and shouldn’t be playing on message boards.

Ms. Huffington was quick to blame Bush/Cheney
but she gave no specific examples of how
Bush/Cheney helped to cause this oil disaster. She
just blamed Bush/Cheney. Posted by: ira allen
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Anyone who WAS asleep at the switch, during
the Bush/Cheney would be asking the same
statement above.
Cheney privately sat in a room with all the oil
executive cronies and worked out a energy policy.
Yeh right, Great job! Gas shot up to over
4.00/gallon, the only stock on the market making
tons of money based purely on speculation
was oil and no one could afford anything because
they had to fill up their cars!

Arianna…thank God someone is not afraid to stand up to this b….
She thinks she knows everything and has been spoon fed facts by her father who is also not to be trusted. He and Halliburton did have a deal going with this well and the other one that failed. Halliburton poured the cement for both wells and guess what..they both failed. Someone needs to look into this. Obama is doing all he can for this oil leak as a concerned, calm persident. The kind we wanted…not the fist banging empty headed one to openly say “I’m glad I waterboarded and I would do it again.” He openly admited to a crime. For Obama to rant and rave, he would be a phoney. I’ll take the cerebral one over the yeller anyday.

From Politico: As Congress investigated its role in the oil rig disaster, Halliburton donated $17K to candidates running for federal office….The Texas-based oil giant’s PAC made 14 contributions during May, according to a federal campaign report filed on Wednesday, 13 to Republicans and one to a Democrat….Of the 10 current members of Congress who got money from Halliburton, 7 are on committees with oversight of the oil spill and its aftermath.
Really — what oil spill??!! Crooked politics as usual.

LUCKILY MOST Americans will not buy Obama’s blame game like so many of the USEFUL IDIOTS posting here. YOU Idiots really need to quit being such dupes. Seriously. Obama has had the the WHITE HOUSE for nearly 1.5 years. The CONGRESS has been Democratic for almost 3.5 years.

“Using the Sarah Palin obsessed Arianna Huffington’s logic, Bill Clinton was responsible for not protecting American from the 9/11 attacks.
Posted by: John Watson | Jun 6, 2010 1:32:09 PM”
Actually there is far more logic and fact that supports that contention but our leaders and their minions would be best off not going down that track.

Posted by: insidiator | Jun 6, 2010 4:15:17 PM
If stopping oil leaks is as difficult as landing men on the moon, how come JFK can afford to have NASA to accomplish his mandate of landing on moon? Right now, the environmentalists in WH, Lisa Jackson and Carol Browner in particular, all said that they expect Energy secretary Chu to get the deep sea leak problem solved.

Liz Cheney and Sarah Palin bring out the Lefty, Commie, Cockroaches!
To: Obama
Let us be perfectly clear, you are troublesome and we have our boots on your throat!
Sarah RISING – Obama FALLING
Very GOOD for AMERICA

Folks,people on this blog have been blaming Bush for 9/11 all of the time.He should have known, he read a book while people died, everybody knew they were going to fly into buildings,yadda,yadda,etc.By that standard Obama OWNS this.But of course we can’t say that,because George Bush is in charge of the response.

spacerock1,
What qualification do the two morons on the opposite side of the table have? They are trying to discuss technical issues regarding BP and are absolutely clueless.
I have yet to read one single report in ANY media that is more than 10% correct on this disaster.

“By that standard Obama OWNS this”
It’s you guys that keep trying to make these lame standards and comparisons between this disaster and Katrina, and 9/11 for no other purpose than George Bush tarnish remover. We’re not buying it, or any of Liz Cheney’s convoluted reasoning.

If what Cheney,Bush et.al. did was so terrible,why didn’t the Obama administration change the policies?Could it be that they AGREED with the previous administration’s oil policies?After 16 months they still hadn’t formulated a new policy?What is the excuse?

ABC, please tell me what qualifications does Lizzy Cheney have to discuss ANY of our country’s issues. Being the daughter of one of the “slickest, meanest, selfish, WRONG VICE president does not qualify her for “doody”. For 8 years the Oilmen that ran our country sat forth a web of deceipt and lies for “self” interest ONLY. Are there anyone on THIS planet that Thinks that it Wouldn’t Start to CRUMBLE? ANYTHING built on Lies soon fall….and now we all see the end results from policies that was set forth based on GREED! Reagan started the shipment of our jobs….look at American NOW. Bush DEREGULATED these industries while his party chanted DRILL BABY DRILL….. for political gains. Now they are blaming the President? Just look at the end results, and nobody has the courage and decency to say These policies has created a Mess. The president is doing a great job in cleaning up ALL the Messes! Get Real!

Huffington shouldn’t be regarded as a credible journalist. Anyone who posts on the Huffington Post, who disagrees with her political views, is forever banned from the site.

DOD auditor referred dozens of cases of suspected fraud, irregular conduct by Halliburton subsidiary, suspended or disapproved hundred of millions in billings
DOD audits of Halliburton’s Iraq and Afghanistan contract found at least $1.4 billion in questioned and $441 million in unsupported costs. In December 2001, the federal government awarded the Logistics Civil Augmentation Program (LOGCAP) III contract to Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg Brown & Root (KBR). Under that contract, KBR provided support for government personnel in Iraq and Afghanistan. On April 5, 2007, Halliburton announced it had separated from KBR. At a May 4, 2009 hearing of the Commission on Wartime Contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Defense Contract Audit Agency (DCAA) – a Department of Defense agency that audits Pentagon contracts — presented data on its audits of KBR’s LOGCAP III contract. According to the data, DCAA audits completed* prior to Halliburton’s separation from KBR found more than $1.4 billion in questioned costs and $441 million in unsupported costs. According to the DCAA, questioned costs are “costs proposed or claimed by the contractor which DCAA considers to be unallowable in accordance with the Federal Acquisition Regulations or contract terms and conditions,” and unsupported costs are “costs for which the contractor has not provided sufficient rationale for their estimates.”
DOD audits led to $452M in suspended or disapproved costs. According to the DCAA document, when an audit finds a questioned or unsupported document, “if the contractor does not voluntarily remove the costs from billings” the “DCAA issues a Form 1, Notice of Contract Costs Suspended and/or Disapproved, to suspend or disapprove costs.” DCAA suspended or disapproved over $452 million in costs claimed by KBR through the LOGCAP III contract that were completed* before Halliburton separated from KBR.

Not just on this week’s show, but the program in general is going down hill. Many of the panelists who have trouble defending their position start attacking the other panelists, usually George Will. I had it when Liz Chaney spouted off to Ariana Huffington something about what planet she lived on. Is that how we exchange concepts and ideas with each other, by throwing insults? The politicians have mastered the practice. I ask Jake Tapper and the producers of This Week to have the panelists act civil with each other or don’t have them back. Sam and George would go back and forth every week, but it was done respectfully. Now it seems that whoever sits on the moderator’s left has open season on George Will, and he sometimes looks like he wants to jump across the table and bop whoever that is. I would like to see the show go with a smaller, but more qualified, cadre of panelists. I am not really interested in what Liz, Arianna, Bill Maher, Donna Brazile, or Al Sharpton have to say. And Katrina Vanden Heuvel is so ridiculously off the wall, that she is a joke to watch.

Lizzy who?
Halliburton and Bush/Cheney allowed deregulation of all private companies–now we have this–GOP wants government.
Pres. Obama please prosecute the two–we are only learning of the inept administration and all the damage that has and will be brought to light.

I look forward to the round table every week, and appreciate the opposite views. Listening to Liz Cheney ruins it for me. She is as arrogant and shrill as her father. She also was very rude to the Daily Kos guy, and wouldn’t give him an opportunity to speak. This is not good tv viewing.

WHY OH WHY MUST WE BE ASSAULTED BY LIZ CHENEY? Could you please NOT have her puss on my Sunday AM show This Week with Jake Tapper, who is great???? She HOGS the conversation trying to reinvent her father’s criminal stint as VP for the WORST 8 year period in US History and lacks the class to mention the Gore separation in a un ha ha way! I like Rachel Maddow! Rachel not Liz, PLEASE!

No one is served by having strict left wing/right wing dialogue. Get back to professional, relatively impartial, and independently analytical commentators.

Why are some of you trying to refute FACTS? I don’t care if Charles Manson said the sky is blue, that doesn’t make it a lie just because he said it, and you can’t stand him!
Are some of you that gullable to think that the ENTIRE TV VIEWING WORLD AUDIENCE never saw or heard the things that Cheney did or said in regards to the repeal of oil industry and EPA regulations in the U.S.? It’s not a debate if it really happened. Your accepting the truth doesn’t validate the truth. Cheney really did do all of those things that Ms. Huffington stated. All of those things can be verified by anyone that really looks for the facts.
There is no conspiracy when you can verify the facts for yourself. Stop trying to define what’s wrong because of political party affiliation.

Yes and in Denmark and in Europe British Petroleum Caps the wells twice before BP drills for oil. They did not require BP to Cap the oil wells twice before they drilled here in the US locations with the US Government contracts to drill for oil.

Liz Cheney typifies right wing dialog in this nation. Loud, inaccurate and absolutely unbelievable to anyone with an iota of intelligence.

I agree. We have been lied to and cheated out of “change”

Yes, let’s blame “big oil”. Big oil is the millions of people that own their stock through pension funds. Cities, states, and local governments that invest in them for their dividends. I say that we line up all of these senior citizens and make them pay by riding the bus. Maybe we should make “BIG OIL” clean up the spill. Get out your sponge grandma.