Engineering Professor Gives Maine Boom Thumbs Up

Huuummmmm . . . . .
Do you think this will be good enough for NoBo?
Ian T. Durham isn’t a Nobel Prize Winner after all.

“304 versus 316 aluminum”
Err, that would be stainless steel. See what I mean about listening to engineers spouting off outside their area of practical experience?

No offense to the good doctor but if Packgen paid him $100 an hour for 40-50 hours worth of work analyzing their boom he isn’t exactly an unbiased source.
I am confused by the expert stating the boom would be okay to use coastally but not in deep water. How ‘deep’ is too deep for this boom? And why the heck would the depth below it matter to the boom? Does it not hold up to really big waves? Something seems a bit out of kilter. It would be nice if BP actually released the test results to say exactly why and how this boom failed to end speculation.
Noz, when you write, ‘Do you think this will be good enough for NoBo?’, you seem to be ignoring the fact that BP determined the boom wasn’t right, not our government. BP is footing the entire bill, not our government. And our President, like every other president before him, does not make decisions on small details but the individual agencies, like the Coast Guard would be involved. Honestly, would you expect a ceo to be choosing the brand of cleaner used on cleaning floors or would that be up to the head of facilities? Because the decision should be made by someone with expertise in that area.

Obama picked an academic to be on his Gulf Gusher Group™, why can’t Packgen do the same type of thing.
Noz | Jun 16, 2010 9:45:08 AM
Obama’s commission is not doing engineering. There is a huge difference, one recognized by law in every state.

“Obama’s commission is not doing engineering. There is a huge difference, one recognized by law in every state.” – jhw539
First off, I didn’t say commission I referenced the Gulf Gusher Group™.
Second off, then who’s figuring out if the sand berms Jindal wants is OK or not?
Doesn’t that take engineering and isn’t that a GGG responsibility?

Of course, Durham is right about the boom not working in deep water. I think it’s used only within the costal areas anyway, to catch the oncoming oil. As far as the deep water containment goes, I’m not aware of there being done anything about that besides the siphoning done by BP and the dispersant spraying. If that’s the accurate case, then it’s really not too reassuring.

During the 2008 campaign, when he clinched the Democratic nomination, Obama said that night was the moment that the “planet began to heal.”
Few public people in history have ever had such a large gap between ego and actual skills.
Obama’s actual skills seemed confined to (a) reading from a telepromter, (b) finger-pointing, (c) apologizing for the United States, and (d) sensing in just about every event a rationale, no matter how cockeyed, for raising taxes and extending the government control over our lives.
But like his days in Chicago, he never really accomplishes anything. He talks, talks, and talks so more.
He takes a trillion dollars of our future wealth for a “stimulus” plan that stimulates nothing but government hiring, and he strongarms Congress into passing a “healthcare” plan built on a torrent of known falsehoods that are only now emerging.
He contends his strategy with Iran will stop that country’s hateful regime from getting a nuclear weapon. Well, it hasn’t, and any month now Iran will explode one. We all know this. And when Iranians do have one, Obama will, as ever, blame someone else.
He is quick to blame cops, the facts be damned, and he is quick to castigate Britain and Israel, our closest friends. But if you’re a Latin American tinpot dictator or an Arab tyrant committed to Israel’s destruction, Mr. Obama will plant one on your behind.
To himself and his dwindling, purblind supporters, Barack Obama is simply too special and too gifted and too indescribably wonderful to be assigned blame. What else can we expect from a man whose principal output in life before running for president was writing two books about himself?
And when the Democrats lose 70 or more seats this autumn, those same deluded supporters, then just a modest fraction of their current number, and Obama himself will contend that lurking behind the defeat is racism.
They will do the same when Obama loses 35 or more states in 2012, by which the American people will be even more tired of Obama’s self-absorbed personality than they are now.
And when his empty-suited, swelled-head do-nothing is at last tossed from office, the United States of America will begin to heal.

Maybe President Obama should put on a flight suit and land on one of them Gulf oil rigs. Then he could make a speech in front of a huge “Mission Accomplished” banner. It’s worked before.

The only thing that is keeping the Packgen boom out of the gulf is the fact that it is not made by union workers.

Meanwhile, recent polling shows that the majority of Americans prefer Democrats retain control of the House and Senate, and still can’t stand Republicans.
Posted by: political mama | Jun 16, 2010 12:52:33 PM”
From Rasmussen on Monday:
Republican candidates now hold a 10-point lead over Democrats on the Generic Congressional Ballot for the week ending Sunday, June 13. That ties the GOP’s largest ever lead, first reached in April, since it first edged ahead of the Democrats a year ago…
…While solid majorities of Democrats and Republicans support the candidates of their own party, the plurality (47%) of voters not affiliated with either major party prefer the Republican candidate, while 19% like the Democrat. These findings have remained fairly consistent for months now.
Republicans have led in the Generic Ballot since mid-June 2009, but the results were much different during the last two election cycles. Democrats regularly had a large advantage in both 2006 and 2008…
what polling are you referring to mama???

The incompetence by the Obama team is off the rails. And how nice to actually have the name of a person in a report. Oh wait does he have a Noble Peace prize?

Maybe President Obama should put on a flight suit and land on one of them Gulf oil rigs.
Posted by: jaxparrothead
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There is a specific Deep Water Horizon rig he should aim for.

Mama and JR
As for polling, Rasmussen polls registered or likely voters, AP just polls adults. Hence for political matters Rasmussen is the more accurate one.
But look at gallup. When asked if they would vote for the democrat or republican in their districts it was a 46-46 tie. On the generic ballot the GOP has opened up an 6 point lead (gallups largest). Presidential approval is 49 to 43 down 1 since yesterday’s speech.
Obama is single handily giving a supposedly dead party CPR.

I don’t know how they ran this poll but everyone in our solar system knows Congress’ approval rating is a lot less than that!
Cmon ProMa, you can come up with a better poll than this Lame one.”
ROFLMAO!
Right winger: I don’t know how they ran this poll nor would I understand the methodology if explain but I think the poll is lame so there!
RCP’s Congressional job approval avg now stands at 21.8% so 24% seems close. .
Its not like that is some kind of stellar rating.

“But look at gallup. When asked if they would vote for the democrat or republican in their districts it was a 46-46 tie. On the generic ballot the GOP has opened up an 6 point lead (gallups largest).”
Republicans in Congress have an 8% approval rating in Gallup’s polling.

Cmon ProMa, you can come up with a better poll than this Lame one.
Posted by: Noz | Jun 16, 2010 5:08:33 PM
It was the most recent poll not taken by a wholly owned subsidiary of the GOP, and I cited it.
All polling shows that the vast, vast majority of Americans do not approve of the job performance of Republicans in Congress, nor the Dems in Congress, of course, but even with the Dems dismal ratings, the Republicans are worse off.

Noz, the company hired an engineer professor who had never worked with boom before. That should tell you something right there. Did they also tell him how to test it?
I honestly don’t see why BP would reject this one company’s boom when they have already bought and installed over 500,000 feet from other American companies, they obviously aren’t against buying boom.
As a sad aside, the boom isn’t working too well, as any high wave action can break it apart or swamp the oil over it. What a mess, all for lack of necessary safety equipment. That’s what happens without tough regulations and lax enforcement and not enough inspectors. Greed always trumps common sense.

More on what prog mama has been saying
From the ABC/WaPo poll for the beginning of the month.
“Although the public’s mood especially endangers the majority party, Democrats are retaining theedge in another important measure: Americans trust them over the Republicans to handle the
country’s biggest problems, 44-32 percent.”
That’s why the Republicans are attempting to muddy the waters at every turn.
The voting public may be fickle, they may have short memories but at this time they remember what a disaster the GOP was.

But the Coast Guard and BP aren’t give any details of what the initial quality test is.
Why not take a sample and try it out!
What do BP know about quality anyway…

“If BP rejected it, but is buying boom from everywhere else it can, why can’t you accept the possibility this boom isn’t up to the job?” – Lydia
Because the manufacturer says it meets standards.
Because it would be insane to make a boom that would sink when it got wet.
Because an Engineering Professor, who is not an employee of the company says it surpasses the standards.
Because I understand how Purchasing and Vendors work and it makes complete sense to me that a buyer would turn down a product and make a phony excuse why.
The real world is a tough dog eat dog place and experience is whispering in my ear that the Packgen people are probably the ones telling the truth.

“The real world is a tough dog eat dog place and experience is whispering in my ear that the Packgen people are probably the ones telling the truth.”
There you go listening to the voices in your head again.

“Ummm the manufacturer agrees with the fact it did not have the correct end caps and the independent tester states it should be used in shallow watter only. ” – Ryan CatMan
Ryanster, the boom was designed for shallow water, makes sense to use it there.
The end caps they had were fine, lots of booms have them that are being used in the Gulf, they just weren’t the type that BP wanted so they changed them. You are reaching at straws here. Please try and have an actual point based on something that at least remotely resembles the truth before posting please.
“There you go listening to the voices in your head again.” – Ryan CatManDoDo
Much more engaging than listening to you Ryan Doodster.
: o )

“All polling shows that the vast, vast majority of Americans do not approve of the job performance of Republicans in Congress, nor the Dems in Congress,” – ProMa
Thank you for admitting that ProMa.
As I said, the poll that you cited with a mid 20% approval rating for Congress is flawed.

“As I said, the poll that you cited with a mid 20% approval rating for Congress is flawed.”
Approval rating polls this month.
Associated Press/GfK 24 73
FOX News 22 69
ABC News/Wash Post 26 71
Perhaps you can point out the flaw.

“I already did with ProMa’s help.
Try reading.”
You mean this?
“All polling shows that the vast, vast majority of Americans do not approve of the job performance of Republicans in Congress, nor the Dems in Congress,” – ProMa
Thank you for admitting that ProMa.”
So how does a poll showing 24% approval and 73% disapproval invalidate that?
Or two other polls showing 26% and 22% approval?
Guess you have no idea and just are stuck repeating the line.
Better put on FoxNews so you can get some new material. Wouldn’t want you to get hurt by trying to think for yourself.

“The key word in Mama’s statement was “vast”, look it up in a dictionary.”
Yes and when one only has a 24% approval, a VAST amount conversely disapproves.
“I’m sure that March Gallup Poll is higher than the June numbers but I couldn’t be bothered to look further because anyone with a lick of common sense knows that Congress’s approval numbers are at or near single digits.”
ROFLMAO!
Yeah except for every poll taken this year AND last year even the 2 & 3 month old polls you cite.
I love that part how you could not be bothered to verify the info you believe exists (it doesn’t), that really sums up the right wing.
Facts apparently have a liberal bias.

Thank you for admitting that ProMa.
As I said, the poll that you cited with a mid 20% approval rating for Congress is flawed.
Posted by: Noz | Jun 17, 2010 10:02:14 AM
Hmmmm… I’m with Ryan C on this one. If you think a mid 20% approval rating somehow is in disagreement with the statement of mine you keep quoting, I’m seeing a logic– or maybe basic math– problem. As Ryan C pointed out:
Approval rating polls this month.
Associated Press/GfK 24 73
FOX News 22 69
ABC News/Wash Post 26 71
The poll I cited was inbetween the other two.

Posted by: Ryan C | Jun 17, 2010 4:02:52 PM
Cable can’t have a Network?
What does CNN stand for?
: o )
Dearest Ryan, what part of 11% don’t you understand?

“Dearest Ryan, what part of 11% don’t you understand?”
The part where its a two month old poll by Republimussen.
AP/GfK 6/9 – 6/14 24 73
FOX News6/8 – 6/9 22 69
ABC /WaPo6/3 – 6/6 26 71
CBS News5/20 – 5/24 15 77
FOX News5/18 – 5/19 22 65
AP/GfK 5/7 – 5/11 28 71
NBC/WSJ 5/6 – 5/10 21 72
Gallup 5/3 – 5/6 21 75
FOX News4/20 – 4/21 22 68
Quinnipiac4/14 – 4/19 20 71
AP/GfK 4/7 – 4/12 28 70
Gallup 4/8 – 4/11 23 73
CBS /NYT4/5 – 4/12 17 73
FOX News4/6 – 4/7 21 72
GWU/Battlegrd4/5 – 4/8 25 68

The independent tester said that he really doesn’t have ANY idea what boom is supposed to look like, yet he thinks he can judge if Packgen’s boom is good enough? No thank you.