Sen. Schumer Bristles at Immigration Reform Hunger Strikers
ABC News’ Z. Byron Wolf reports: Dimming prospects this year for action on a comprehensive immigration reform bill have some reform supporters targeting an unusual group of lawmakers: Democrats who have long been champions for their cause. Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., who sought to craft a comprehensive immigration bill this year, has faced protests by pro-reform immigration activists for failing to facilitate Senate consideration of reform legislation. Ten protesters staged a sit-in at his Capitol Hill office today, following last week’s ten-day hunger strike at his office in New York. An animated Schumer could be seen meeting with the protesters from the hallway outside his office before rushing off. He declined to speak with ABC on-camera. “He did find ten minutes of his time to come tell us that what we’re doing is frustrating for him,” said Yadira Alvarez, a 2010 Columbia grad and hunger striker, who said Schumer told the protesters he can’t move the bill without five more co-sponsors in the Senate. That’s not good enough for Alvarez. “We’re tired of promises and we’re tired of waiting,” she said. The protesters want Democrats to begin a more piecemeal approach to immigration reform, prioritizing a piece of legislation known as the DREAM Act that would provide a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as children and have pursued higher education. “We’re asking Sen. Schumer to be a champion for the DREAM Act and actually get their support along with us,” she said. Alvarez is not so sure that Schumer’s proposal for a comprehensive immigration reform bill is the right one. She said the comprehensive approach isn’t yet written and “instead of helping immigrants it criminalilzes immigrants.” A vote on a similar proposal in 2007 got support from several Republicans, but fell short of the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster. The vote was 52-44 in 2007. Democrats have more votes than they did in 2007, but it is not clear that they have enough support to pass the DREAM Act on its own. “We think there is more support than in 2007 and more Republicans could support it now. And if Sen. Schumer was fully behind the DREAM Act as a stand-alone bill there would be the votes,” said Kirin Savage, who was part of the protest at Schumer’s Washington office Thursday. Schumer has indicated he wants to pass the DREAM Act, but wants to do it as part of a comprehensive bill. A spokesman said Thursday that no final decision has been made on whether Democrats will seek action on the DREAM Act outside of a comprehensive immigration bill. Democrats unveiled an outline for a comprehensive reform bill in April, but it is unlikely to see consideration by the full Congress this year. — Z. Byron Wolf

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Why is it, that Mexicans think they should just get citizenship, because they got across the border???????
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | June 10, 2010, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
To Rick McDaniel: Why should get to keep your citizenship simply because your mother pushed you out in a hospital that happened to be located here? What are your major accomplishments that make you worthy?
Posted by: dave miles | June 10, 2010, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Dave Miles: The same much applies to you, doesn’t it?
Posted by: tsu | June 10, 2010, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
To Rick McDaniel: Why does everyone generalize that all immigrants are Mexican?
Posted by: Ivan Ceja | June 10, 2010, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
This should be an EASY bill to write.
1) Appropriate the $$$ to fully ENFORCE existing Federal laws;
2) Increase the number of raids by USCIS AND local/county/state police forces in workplaces known to hire such criminals, and impose STIFF penalties on any company that hires them;
3) Implement a National ID and require it to be shown any time a citizen desires to avail himself of the rights and privileges of such citizenship;
4) Deny services to any and all criminals, including the ability to rent housing, borrow money (homes, cars, credit cards), drive a car/truck, fly on airplanes, subscribe to cellular phones or internet service providers, or send money via wire or post;
5) Deny future citizenship, and revoke all past citizenship, to “anchor babies;”
6) Build a GOD DAMNED FENCE, and have it patrolled by FULLY ARMED and TECHNOLOGICALLY EQUIPPED Federal border patrol agents (that includes the use of infrared sensors and armed drones);
7) Establish LIBERAL “Rules of Engagement” that allow our forces to use DEADLY FORCE whenever and wherever our national borders are crossed, unless such crossings are made at border crossing areas agreed to by BOTH nations.
SOLVED!!!
Posted by: Is_It_November____Yet | June 10, 2010, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
As a mexican american and a construction worker, I think it’s about time I state my opinion on this matter. After all. they say that illegals only come here and take jobs that noone wants. Well I’m here to let the world know that this is an excuse and a farce. It is built upon by companies who employ these illegals and do so under the pretense of an 1099 tax form (I believe this is the correct form). Now this is only one example, but I’ll
ellaborate before I move on to my second example.
You see, a lot of business owners use the 1099 tax form as a crutch so that they don’t have to pay the payroll taxes that they are supposed to pay. Normally, when a person is legally employed, that person will have taxes deducted from their income. Now, that may include taxes ranging from social security to income taxes. When employers use the 1099 tax form it also absolves them from having to match those tax payments that I previously
mentioned that the employee is required to make. therefore they benefit from having several illegals using stolen
social security numbers on their payroll as long as that person forges the name of the actual person that the ssn belongs to, when they file 1099 (self employed).
My second point is this. I am a journeyman brickmason and I can’t tell you how many times I have seen illegals
hired over americans. Whether they be hispanic citizens or white or whatever. You see, when illegals come to this
country, they don’t come here without a plan. They normally have a system in place where they are offered shelter
and food so that that system can continue. What I see happening all the time is that illegal aliens all get
together and rent a house that would normally rent for maybe 500 – 1000 dollars a month. Now here’s the catch.
What they do, is move about 20 – 30 ppl in that same house, split all the payments monetarily. That includes rent, food, utilities, by paying perhaps 30 – 50 dollars a month into a community pot. I’ve also seen these types of households have a “legal fund”. If the landlord takes notice, with that many incomes, it’s easy to buy his silence.
Now to the part of me not being able to get a job. You see. considering the aforementioned living arrangement and
system in place. It’s easy and profitable for an illegal to come to our country and take a job that normally pays 20 dollars an hour to a journeyman, for 13 dollars an hour. I ask you,. How can some say that they are only coming here and taking jobs that noone wants? I’ve been unemployed for over a year now and the company I work for employs many illegals. I have tried to let athorities know but of course, business is business. Imigration officials usually don’t have the resources, time, or the will to take the time and really investigate how a person’s social security number can accrue income in two different states during the same week and the same day. As an example, In Taylor county Tx. there are two, I say again two, imigration officials that cover the entire region. The county seat itself, Abilene tx, has approximately 125,000 people living in it. A rough estimate for the county alone would be a quarter million. How can we expect two imigration officials to manage such a large area? The reason I know
this is because I was abused in the past by a company that I worked for and tried to pay me $8 an hour for a job in
which normally I would be paid $20 an hour. I had no means to sue them, which I did try to do. After speaking to
the judge he informed me that he would accept my pauper’s affidavit which I had filed but unfortunately, the company I was planning on sueing was from another state. The law dictates that a company that is sued has the right to request any court processes be done in the residing state of the defending party.
Yes, these myths need to stop, americans do want these jobs that are being handed over to illegals. problem is that we are being outbid by illegals. Employers are more than happy to pocket the profits.
as a final note. My ancestors have always been in tx. since b4 the time TX joined the United States. But make no mistake about it. I am a hispanic, mexican, latino, whatever you wanna think of me as that is very unhappy with the current immigration problem. In fact, I see it as a major cause of our current recession. I’d truly like to see a study on the number of foreclosures that were actually found to be transactions with illegals.
closing, not sure if many ppl know this but illegals also get another benefit when they come here. They get spot
free credit, therefore they can drive brand new cars and trucks back to their homeland, along with the thousands of
dollars they have made by working under a stolen social security number from which, by using the tax form I
mentioned b4 they had to pay no taxes on.
signed,
mexican american and US citizen
just to clarify. I have no objection to immigrants coming to this country legally. They are not the problem. I
think I have shown a completely legitimate example of how our imigration policies are failing. This example is my actual life experience. I am 37 yrs old and a single father. I have lived in Tx, Ga, and a few other states. It’s taken me several years of observance to come to this conclusion. At the same time I actually have friends that are from mexico and have family there. The difference is, they are here with either work visa’s or they are naturalized citizens. I know that some may get confused and think that I’m just some “sell out” to my race. To you all I can say is, “I’m sorry that you are not a citizen, but why should I have to suffer for you not taking action to reform your’ own country?”
peace.
Posted by: timoteo | June 10, 2010, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
I’m with YOU, timoleo!!! Welcome!!
Posted by: Is_It_November____Yet | June 10, 2010, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Tsu: Yes it applies to me as well. Let me propose a hypothetical scenario here: Let’s say a girl is born in canada. One second later, she is brought into the US and she grows up here and spends the rest of her life here. How different do you think she’d be from a native born? What if she’s brought in 5 minutes after she’s born? 5 years? etc.
I’m proposing this exercise to illustrate just how arbitrary birthright citizenship is–something most US citizens enjoy without ever thinking about it. One would think that there would be a better metric for deciding who gets to be a US citizen, but there really isn’t. Sure the immigration process tries to impose some metric, but the whole process is incredibly inefficient, biased, and broken to say the least.
Now here’s a bill that allows the privilege of living in the US to those who are willing to work hard in school/college, serve in the military, have no criminal history, and have already assimilated into the society much like the natives. Aren’t these exactly the kind of people you want as immigrants?
To timoteo:
Your post makes sense, but wishing that someone would go back and fix the problems in their countries is naive at best. By the same logic, what have you done to fix the sub-prime mortgage crisis? How about NAFTA? What about the two wars? Did you have any say in the matter (assuming you were against them)? What about the bail out? How about switching from the gold/silver standard to the fiat currency? How did you fix those problems?
The point I’m making is that sometimes, you have no control over your circumstances. To wish that people would just stay where they are while ignoring the details is naive. Make it illegal for businesses to hire cheap labor here, and the big businesses will simply ship out. Already, a lot of the cars being driven are made in Mexico. What now?
Basically, migration and socio-economic theory isn’t a straight forward topic. You don’t get to have simple answers to complex problems; and utopias don’t exist.
Posted by: dave miles | June 11, 2010, 1:59 am 1:59 am
Why should the American people grant citizenship to any person in this country against their will!
If you are illegally here, you dont belong in our schools. If you were born of parents who were here illegally, you are not a citizen of this nation and dont belong in our schools.
The 14th Amendment didnt give citizenship to American Indians and didnt give citizenship to anyone who entered this country illegally or their children!
Posted by: Originalist | June 11, 2010, 7:02 am 7:02 am
history is in the latinos side. white ancestors came here illegaly and took the land from natives.can somebody deny that facts?
Posted by: tony | June 11, 2010, 8:15 am 8:15 am
And the Palestinians took land from the pharaoh so what?The Indians had sex with the Buffalo,and the Mexicans came for who knows where? Illegal Immigration is against the law.You want to be a North Korean,go ahead and cross their border illegally.
Posted by: stormerF2 | June 11, 2010, 8:52 am 8:52 am
One thing that many proponents of “amnesty type” immigration reforms forget is that such actions are a slap in the face to legal immigrants who have waited for the proper processing to come to the country with respect by honoring the countries laws.
My maternal Grandmonther waited three and a half years for the visas to clear for herself and her 5 children to come the country legally. She waited to come to the US with honor and dignity in deplorable conditions in Honduras. Her patience is commendable.
Is there a reason why such dignity should not be expected of all immigrants?
Any immigration “reform” needs to take three people groups into account.
1) Legal immigrants who have to wait months or years to come to the country through proper channels. This should be process streamlined so that the requisite checks can be made but that people aren’t waiting so long to come to the country.
2) Children born to illegal immigrants in the country or who were brought as minors to the country illegally. These children were put in an unfortunate place by their parents. Breaking up these families would be the worse case senario but is unfortunately the place that their parents have put their families in, nor is blanket amnesty a good option either because this doesn’t take into account the public services that these children often use, without their parents paying the taxes neccessary that support these services(like education and emergency medical services).
3) Illegal aliens themselves: The government doesn’t have the polical will to deport the 10-20 million illegals we have nor does it have the will to secure the border properly so that we can prevent more illegals coming through the southern border. Until the flow of illegal immigrants is at least slowed if not stopped altogether then any reform measure will be meaningless and it would only encourage more people to make the attempt to enter the country illegally.
If all three people groups aren’t delt with fully then any comprehensive immigration reform meansure will be largely meaningless, except as a token gesture try to buy the hispanic vote for the next election cycle.
Posted by: bobtherepublican | June 11, 2010, 8:52 am 8:52 am
“We’re asking Sen. Schumer to be a champion for the DREAM Act and actually get their support along with us,” she said. Alvarez is not so sure that Schumer’s proposal for a comprehensive immigration reform bill is the right one. She said the comprehensive approach isn’t yet written and “instead of helping immigrants it criminalilzes immigrants.”
No Ms. Alvarez. The bill doesn’t make them criminals. A “comprehensive” reform bill may absolve them of their crimew, but the “immigrants” became criminals the moment they entered U.S. sovereign territory illegally. Now you’re demanding not just a blanket pardon but the grant of citizenship for criminals who have demonstrated their disregard for the laws of our land as you are likewise doing. According to court precedents criminals have no rights other than a right to a fair and timely trial by a jury of their peers. But guess what. That only applies to American citizens. Foreign nationals don’t even have that basic right by law. Why won’t our federal government enforce the immigration laws of our land? It seems to me that Mexico could use some educated young people. Send them home to serve their country.
Posted by: gollywiggle | June 11, 2010, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Yes send those college grads home to serve their country. Let them help their own country to rise above poverty and corruption. The way things are headed in the U.S. we may need a prospering neighboring country to escape to in the near future.
Posted by: gollywiggle | June 11, 2010, 10:06 am 10:06 am
WHO CARES IF THEY DON”T EAT!!!
I’m pro choice in this case.
They choose to be stupid—let them. They are NOT worth the hassle.
Posted by: ron | June 11, 2010, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Schumer should stand out there and eat a Value Meal while “listening” to their concerns.
Posted by: The Northern Star | June 11, 2010, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
“The Annual Amount Needed to End World Hunger is $30 Billion”, Brgen Project. Compared to the Military budget that is $530 billion, the amount is small.
Posted by: sara | June 11, 2010, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
USA is a country of IMMIGRANTS, who would NEVER be here if the laws were the same as today.
Immigrants are the backbone of US economy, NOT criminals!
Posted by: Emmy | June 11, 2010, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
illegal immigrants are here illegally but they are the red herring issue. People love to blame someone for a problem when they can’t fight back.
Increasing crime might have something to do with mexican criminals provisioning american drug habits.
How much air could be taken out of this by legalizing, taxing and regulating this addiction problem. INSTEAD we spend our tax dollars on a failing drug war. Some nimrods want to spend a whole boatload more tax dollars on a while from when end to the other of the border and hire people to stand and guard.
why not instead focus our tax dollars on investing in our own citizens college opportunities where there is talent, basic medical/dental care for all children. Invest in something which provides future benefit to the country.
Posted by: trueblue | June 11, 2010, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
you see? nobody can deny those facts! nobody says “you lie tony”. if all descendants of illegal aliens should be deported,the whole group of european-american would be back to theirs countries too! indians with buffalo? come on man that’s no funny, but you know those mexicans and their ancestors have been here centuries before any european even had an idea about america.I think the immigration reform should put those who are here illegaly in the back of the line for legalization,that would be fair for the people who is already waiting in their countries. giving a temporary legal status but being tough with those who are involved in mayor felonies after getting their legalization.
Posted by: tony | June 12, 2010, 7:25 am 7:25 am
Tony I agree with sending ALL the ILLEGALS back to the country they come from and we have to start with the 20,000,000 illegal fellons that are here now. Come here legel speek english you are welcomed.
Posted by: Don | June 12, 2010, 8:33 am 8:33 am
SPEAK English that is.
Posted by: Don | June 12, 2010, 8:43 am 8:43 am
What’s your answer, Tony? Just open the floodgates and let the greatest country in the world be overrun by people who screwed their own country up so badly that they can’t wait to abandon it?
Posted by: The Northern Star | June 12, 2010, 11:41 am 11:41 am
First let me ask this question did anyone see what happened in Mexico today 39 people were murdered by drug lords that is why we need Legal Entry to United States to check criminal backrounds,Medical,Schooling, Marital, minor children all of you say let them stay, let them come but has anyone stopped to say hurray to the Legal Immirgrant who follows all the rules,pays lots of money no this is an all of you put slap on the face to those people , have you wittnessed the most beautiful swearing in as I did in Miami of almost 400 new Citizens brought tears to my eyes and how proud they were raiseing there hands to swear . The United States of America is becoming a joke to the rest of the world and I say shame,shame on you all, yes come in Legally otherwise back and I applauded the Governor of Arizona she should become President as she alone has the balls to the right thing. Thank you.
Posted by: sandra warner | June 12, 2010, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
To dave miles: I agree with you 100% if all american using their brains like you, all this problem will be solve without no hesitation … the problem with our community is sometimes people don’t think clearly, we all talking about un-employment in this country but yet still there’s advertisement in the newspaper, and craiglist that shown people’s are hiring right now, but just because they lazy and just want to do those easy job, they complain and complain and complain, here’s the key word for you , if you don’t want to do those job let others do it for example them immigrants , and then if the company expanding and people keep spending of course there will be opening for other position , in corporate office I mean,
I understand your laziness, but at least be smart about it, think big ,think outside the box , we need these people to do those kind of job that we don’t want to do,
every company and every corporate is like a pyramid….the bottom is them , who work by paycheck, and the top and the middle is hopefully to be us, Think about it….we need people to spend to have income , we need people to pay taxes, if no body spending , no body pay taxes , no people , no community and its so obvious is the end of a country….
Posted by: YenFang23 | June 13, 2010, 3:40 am 3:40 am
poor baby. i love how people like schumer and pelosi so embrace all these “activists” when they’re railing against their political opponents, but when they turn their ire at democrats, said democrats “bristle” at their behavior. like the much underreported scene from last week when pelosi was ridiculed and assailed by her own constituents. and how pelosi derides the tea party as dangerous while her own people toss garbage at her. what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
Posted by: davidfrat21 | June 13, 2010, 9:26 am 9:26 am
It’s the “liar in chief.” All he cares about is how to spend as much money as possible in as little time as possible and create more entitlement programs for some of those lazy butt Americans who just sit around their homes all their lives waiting for a check from the government. Hispanics, which I am not by the way, are very hard working. All they’re looking for is an opportunity to make money. They are the exact opposite of the African-American culture where people honestly believe someone owes them something. Obama doesn’t care about the immigrants, doesn’t care about the Reform. He lied about it too, so just add it to the list.
Posted by: Monica | June 13, 2010, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Eric Balderas is a DREAM student facing deportation proceedings. He is a Harvard student. Harvard president Drew Faust completely supports the DREAM Act, sign a letter calling politicians to have the DREAM Act as a stand alone bill.
America do you want to waste a talent like Balderas? If the politicians represent the will of the people, then, Balderas I feel for you, but the law is the law. Life is above all else. Above money, above power, above bickering between parties. Our politicians need to understand, the urgency of the issue. DREAM students can’t afford to wait any longer.
They graduate high school with such promise, but its promise thats all. Some are lucky and pursue a college education. Many become professionals, but they are reduced to hard labor in order to survive. Pick onions under the hot Arizonan sun, frame houses with mechanical engineering degrees. America’ greatness was not founded on the this. I listen every night on talk shows, don’t they understand they are illegal. I ask them do you understand the harshness of reality outside the US. Don’t you understand the adversity that DREAM students face? Don’t you understand the improbability of a kid from Herecuaro, Guanajuato, Mexico obtaining a college education? When no-one is his family by all accounts no-one is his town obtain a college education.
I ask America, do you really afford to waste DREAM students when India and China graduate 4 engineers to your 1? DREAMers swear loyalty to America, because they are Amercans. When will human beings understand that home is where your heart is, not where you are born.
I fully support CIR above all else, but we have ran out of time. The DREAM Act is the only plausible legislation that will alleviate our situation. It will produce hope, it will be the first to the ultimate goal of equal rights. It will allow for the dreams of millions of parents to come true, their children having a chance at a life, that they only dream-pt of.
Senator Schumer, I am completely disgusted on how you handle the fasting and immigration reform meeting. If you want to know how DREAM students feel? What they think? Ask them, they where on your front step. Instead you denied their voice. You denied their existence, when you did not acknowledge their presence.
Once, we have the 60 senate votes you will support the DREAM Act as a stand alone? Why would we need you in that case. You are an elected official, who should fight for his people. Well here is your chance to step up to the plate and do what is just. The DREAM Act as a stand alone bill now, no more talking. No more denying our existence.
The lack or compassion and understanding is amazing. People are starving in Mexico, Honduras, Colombia, Honduras, Africa etc… they are extremely improvised. They struggle to survive. They don’t know when their next meal is going to be. They have no clothing to protect them from the winters. Many die of easily treated diseases in the US, but in their country of birth they don’t have the resources.
If Americans don’t know this, the exploitation of American corporations along side with government legislation created their poverty. So, if they make the decision to emigrate to the US for a better life, can you really blame them. Birthright doesn’t constitute anything more than a piece of paper. In order to be American, one must hold American values; temperance, courage, justice, and equality among others.
Look into your soul and ask yourself if I wasn’t as lucky as I am (being born in the US and such) would I do the same as them. Would I leave everything I knew, for the possibility of better life for my family? Or will I let my child be raised in this poverty, in this crime invested land?
DREAM Act 2010.
Posted by: raphael 2010 | June 14, 2010, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
Divide and conquer
Posted by: James king | June 17, 2010, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Its so funny how all these people who came here illegally talk about legality. When you come and rob a land and make your own laws, they are not laws that others see. I remember hearing this angry white man state that we created the wealth in this country – sorry the chinese railroad workers created your infrastructure doing the dangerous explosives work, while the polish guys just did the easy work and then you stuck the Asians into concentration camps as a sign of gratitude.. and the Africans made you rich in your white southern fields while you raped their wifes and daughters and hung them with nooses for wanting to go to the same restaurant as you. So in essence of the real game, in 80 years time the minority population will be more dominant, hence your actually worried about payback.. Now that is the real deal for the bigots. However as most of Americans know we are becoming more integrated as we get global so I think that winning favor will be to make concessions now to show conscious efforts.
Posted by: dan | June 19, 2010, 12:00 am 12:00 am