Sources: Justice Department to File Lawsuit Against Arizona Immigration Law, Likely Next Week

What is the basis for their lawsuit? Which talking point are they pursuing?

I was for civil rights for everyone until terrorists took advantage of American hospitality. Now I say I am for HOMELAND SECURITY above all else. If you are stopped to see if you belong in this country, live with it. I am an American and proud of it. Any action that cuts down on illegal immigration gets my thumbs up. The federal government should learn from Arizona and take a stand. America, LOVE it or LEAVE it.

What is the basis for their lawsuit? Which talking point are they pursuing?
posted by N2vip

He’s still a big joke….on us!!!

Time to impeach OBAMA and throw out the rest of the gang of politicians who are throwing our country to the illegals.
When illegals have more rights than legal citizens, we have a problem. They are getting all sorts of handouts, free legal service, interpretor services — and are getting citizenship for their illegal children dropped on our soil due to Misinterpretation of our 14th amendment. Time To work on all these issues — including making sure they are NOT coming illegally into our country through our unprotected borders.
These people are CRIMINALS … and when our government is FIGHTING STATES because they are enforcing immigration laws, it is time to get rid of those people in power. And when our government is ignoring revising the 14th amendment AND wanting to allow these criminals ( illegals ) amenesty and citizenship to their illegal children, etc, we need to all be writing our government officials – and our president, and making sure these things do not happen!
IF he continues, IMPEACH!!
Bad enough we have an outrageous stimulus package, a healthcare bill no one read AND passed due to bribing of the Congress ( which should be illegal – and those making and taking bribes held accountable ) – along with sheep mentality in our Congress, no protection at our borders, nothing being done about the illegals already in this country, and now this … wanting to bring charges against a LEGAL STATE enforcing things already on the books!
IMPEACH OBAMA

We must face facts; Obama hates America.
His entire administration has worked against the majority of Americans. First it was healthcare, then it is energy policy, and now it is immigration.
Come November, it will be time to get real Americans back into government. Obama has to go.

Is this the same Department of Justice that allowed Port Chester New York citizens to place six votes for one candidate rather than one vote per six candidates.I always thought you were allowed to place one vote for one candidate. So if they had six candidates running for six postitions then you would vote for the best person in each position. Not in Port Chester you can cast all six votes for one person!!!!

More from The Obama Buffoon.
The staggering arrogance.
The dangerous narcissism.
The astounding incompetence.
The poisonous radicalism.
November can’t come soon enough… then on to 2012 to rid ourselves of this hack.

So the US Government is suing a State for enacting a law that is almost word for word the Federal law concerning the same matter? So the US Government never intends to enforce its own law against these criminal aliens? (And YES, I did use the politically incorrect term CRIMINAL ALIENS- because that is what they are.)

This suit’s been in the works, that’s never been in question. The biggest consideration isn’t the outcome so much as it is timing it with the November elections.

“The Gov. of Az. is protecting her fellow citizens, not illegal aliens!”
Whether intentionally ignorant or not, right-wingers don’t seem to be able to comprehend that the Feds are concerned the Arizona law is not protecting ALL citizens equally by encouraging racial profiling against CITIZENS of the US. But of course it wouldn’t be anywhere near the first time that biased full-time critics play dumb to get a cheap shot at the President.

” the Feds are concerned the Arizona law is not protecting ALL citizens equally by encouraging racial profiling against CITIZENS of the US.” – Skip
This is an unfounded concern and most likely just a Liberal/Progressive talking point. The White House is trying to use the border security as a bargaining chip to get Amnesty for illegal invaders. They want that so that they can increase the Democratic Voting Base since they lose voters each year the Baby Boomers mature and get more Conservative with acquired wisdom.
The White House is scared that other states will follow Arizona’s lead, then they lose their leverage and bye bye Amnesty. This is all political maneuvering with the Citizen’s of Arizona as the pawns who pay the price.
I’m guessing you just may understand all of this Skip but chose to ignore it.

Obama 100,000,000 dollars to Haiti. O. K. it was a disaster a good thing to do, but who authorized it? 200,000,000 dollars to Palestinians once again who authorized it? Helping dead beat dads pay their child support? Suing the state of Arizona for doing what the Feds refuse to do? Forcing the head of a major corporation to step down? There was a recent article about a known terrorist coming across the Mexican border. Where is our protection?????

I’m unclear exactly what “policy” the administration thinks is being set in AZ other than that federal immigration laws should be enforced.
Apparently that’s a different policy than the Administration has.
One doesn’t need to be a fan of the AZ law (I’m not exactly) to see this for what it is – a taxpayer funded stunt to prop up sagging Democratic prospects in November.

This is no suprise coming from the Joker who let a guy from Mexico stand in front of Congress and tell them how we should run our country. Maybe he should control his side of the border and stop the flow of his citizens out of his country. This administration should go in the histroy books as the worst in history.

Our President and his administration are a complete and total joke. Worst President in HISTORY including the buffoon Jimmy Carter.

As usual the Obama administration has a tin ear. They just refuse to listen to the American people. They are so busy trying to ram an agenda down our throats they don’t seem to realize this is a democracy and in a few months we are going to have something to say about all of this tyranny! I am in my 7th decade of life and this is the first time I have seen a President just outright ignore the feelings of the American people on EVERY issue.

“The White House is trying to use the border security as a bargaining chip to get Amnesty for illegal invaders”
The GOP, which never made any real effort before, is using this issue as diversion to stall on other issues like cap and trade. It’s going to backfire. Treating Hispanics as second class citizens might impress their right-wing friends but their insensitivity will cost them even more Hispanic votes…something they cannot afford long-term.

This would be a frivolous lawsuit. It is only a reiteration of the Federal law except for the addition of a statement that law enforcement personnel can not arbitrarily stop someone in a discriminatory manner.

This just goes to show that the Government has no intentions of enforcing even the limited immigration policies we have. States have the right to protect and serve their citizens, protect their borders, and engage in policies and laws that the Federal Government is remiss on.

i dont know what the beef is, ths spring we took a trip to arizonas southern border and were stopped several times to check if we were legal or smuggling illegals.this has been going on for a long time and the feds dont need a reason to stop you.

Well if the Federal Government won’t protect the states, then they’ll have to protect themselves! It would be a different story if say, “Afghani’s” were illegally crossing our borders. Maybe it’s just OK for Mexicans.

Maybe the Federal Government should save the money for something more important, like $1.25 million to save the red squirrels in Arizona. Look, stop spending more of my hard earned money on things I’ve already paid for. Since this administration does not want to deal with issues, let’s applaud Arizona for doing what the Washington bureaucraps should have done in the first place.

I wonder if Holder has read the either law yet or perhaps he is waiting for Spanish versions.

I feel it should be up to the state to decide since the government allows to many people into the United States from other countries that should not be here.
Look at the crime rate in one state alone most that commit the crimes look where they are from.
How dare the president of Mexico come here & on American soil & make statements like he did,let him keep his people in his country & provide for them.The U.S.A.has a lot of problems with the economy being bad & the people that were born & raised here can’t survive the way things are.Enough is Enough.

The POTUS doesn’t mind playing politics with citizens lives and well being. Doesn’t really like most of us anyway. He is failing on the oil leak, failing in Afganistan, failing to secure our on borders, failing to listent to the will og the PEOPLE but doing a great job of golfing (39 times in 500 days), attending concerts and date nights + meeting all those sports teams. Fiddling while we all burn.

Good. Now the truth will come out about this white house and why it does not want to enforce the laws of this land. Maybe we can be done with Obama after this and see him get kicked out of office so someone can save the nation.

When the lawsuit is filed, will it be in english and spanish?

What part of “illegal” don’t I understand?
The part where it says it has to be forever.

Very simply: ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL! Please Arizona, for the good of the entire U.S.A. don’t ever back down on this!

“If successful, will the Federal suit also affect the laws of other states? ”
No, the idea of a _centralized_ administration is that every state has its own, inconsistent approach to immigration policy.
I am being sarcastic, in case you didn’t notice.

The White House is not doing their job. I can see why Arizona has taken responsibility to protect it’s citizens. As far as I am concerned everyone should be profiled. Just maybe we would not the problems we do if this was actively done. There is no discrimination when a person is pulled over by the police and asked for identification.

Illegal people are coming in with arms with the intent to kill anyone who looks to be a threat to them.
I am convinced that Obama is a muslim and a silent radical muslim. Terrorists from pakistan are crossing the border and this is why obama is doing what he’s doing.
America is in trouble . . .

What absolute and utter hypocrisy–and a disgrace to this nation and its people.

Screw Holder and screw Obama. AZ ought to countersue these two Socialist stooges for ABDICATING their Constitutional duties. I don’t blame the illegal immigrants that want to flee Mexico and come here to make some money fior their families. Mexico is a freaking disgrace of a country replete with corrupt elites and pathetic wimpering sheep for a population. If Mexicans had any cojones, instead of sneaking across the border to the US, they would organize and march on Mexico City to DEMAND reform. Instead, these hardworking but cowardly people have chosen to flee the intrinsic corruption and rampant drug violence to become a burden on the United States taxpayers, driving down labor rates and swamping hospital emergency rooms without any insurance or way to pay. I challenge anyone on this forum to explain to me how it is fair or equitable for the United States to be the welfare state for Mexico? If you oppose securing the border or allowing illegals to stay in the country, please sign up to personally pay for the medical and educational costs for at least one family. Otherwise, you are nothing but loudmouthed hypocrites who are very generous with OTHER PEOPLE’s money.

Since SB1070 has been approved, the violence toward immigrants in AZ has become severely and ineasingly fierce.
As reported on the local news a few days ago there is a neo-nazi affiliated military group with a truck load of automatic weapons, they are in full camouflage including dressing like bush, they admit to being in the desert so they can pick off illegals crossing the boarder through the desert. They are cold blooded killers with the the local government full knowing of their purpose or mission and the only comment made about their activity is “They are not bringing the SB1070 any favorable attention”, a comment by the local sherrif. Since when had this country allowed any citizen to be judge and jury without a trial, and since when has tresspassing become a death sentence offence. I think about reporters and students, and just innocent persons who wandered into enemy territory in foreign countries who are imprisoned right now what if that country just executed them for wandering into their territory? I thought the US was more civilized, but after seeing this behavior and the government openly acknowledging it but doing nothing to prevent the murder of people who only want to work to support their families I think we are not different than the other countries who have less severe penalties than death for tresspassing. There were two men murdered on the I-8 two weeks ago, it was ‘assumed’ they were involved they were either involved in drug smuggling or human smuggling and the investigation was dropped or swept under the carpet. It was because they were Hispanic these assumption was made. The fact is violence toward immigrants is not a priority in AZ never has been. AZ has one of the highest crime rates in the country and immigrants are the biased focus. They are more often the victim of crime than the perpetrators. And the crimes against them are horrific. This issue is a cover up for AZ law enforcement who have such a poor record for solving crime. It’s has to be blamed on something beyond their control or they look like they can’t do their job. The media has been used to feed hysteria to the public, to spread the myths about immigrants, crime and violence, not that there isn’t a problem with human trafficking or drug smuggling but the average immigrant is not involved, they are here to work to support their families. Yes, we need immigration reform laws but not the kind that breed violence, and racism. This is a political ploy a game, pure politics in AZ.

Does the President and his Administration have disdain for police? It appears so. First, he said the Cambridge police acted “stupidly”, even though he admitted he didn’t know all the circumstances. Once this law passed, Obama and Holder came out and declared that it would create racial profiling, even though Holder said he didn’t read the law. The police will be responsible for upholding the law, not citizens. So, why such disdain?

I am an independent voter who voted for Obama because I thought we needed change from the previous eight years. I am extremely disappointed. I will not be voting for Obama again.

Missouri has a law very similar to Arizona, and so does Oklahoma.
Some 30 cities are unanimously boycotting Arizona (not OK or MO). Why?
Why is Arizona the only target?
Here is the fundamental fact that explains why Arizona has such unique status:

Calderon is a joke and a blatant hypocrite. He criticizes AZ’s law while saying NOTHING about Mexico’s laws on immigration which are exponentialy more restrictive. The fact is that Calderon is a corrupt weakling and like most Mexicans is simply too scared to take the steps necessary to reform his country, which with its rich natural resources and beautiful coastlines should EASILY be able to provide for ots own population. Let’s stop the PC crap with Calderon and tell the truth. Calderon is a puppet for the corrupt elites and drug dealers and the Mexican people are largely a bunch of cowards, too frightened to stand up to their corrupt government. The time for revolution in Mexico is long overdue. Don’t Mexicans have any pride or are they truly the dishonest, corrupt, and cowardly sheep that they appear to be in tolerating the current situation? I would be ASHAMED if my country had to depend on another country to provide welfare for 12-20 million of my citizens. Apparently, Mexicans are okay with that sad state of affairs.

Wake up America….immagration is killing our tax base..these stupid politicians pander and cater to any voting base. Get these illegals out of here our country economics have changed for good. We cant afford illegals!!!
Fight for your country!

Virginia Nordin wrote: “Waste more of our money filing this lawsuit! Where are the brains of this country? The racist’s that voted for Obama will be very sorry. He was brought up on “God dam America”! He has not proven his birth in the USA. Not eligible for presidency. Arizona’s governor is the smartest of all! She is protecting her state from all who breaks the law while the Federal government has failed.”
AMEN!!!!!!! The feds haven’t done their job dealing with the illegals and have no business going after the states/cities who are trying to do it instead. Shut up, BO, and get busy — make the feds enforce the law or get out of the way and let the state/local governments do it!

Our country is under attack by another country, (Mexico) our boarders are not safe, and Arizona has had the backbone to enforce a federal law already on the books.The federal goverment should be deploying troops anong the border instead of suing a US state for protecting it`s self. The federal government gladly sends thousands of US troops around the globe to protect foriegn boarders and many young men and women have lost their lives for no apparent reason other than to please the policy of a government who doesn`t care about them, When will our country be a safe place to live? The Obama administration, like the others before it, turn a blind eye to illegals crossing our boarders freely, using our schools, healthcare, driving our streets, committing crimes, and filling up our prisions. Who should be suing who?

Ramon F Herrera – First off, I doubt that you are a “Yankee”. Second, what does being a sovereign nation have to do with implementing immigration laws that mirror Mexico’s? Being a sovereign nation allows us to do just that. Your posts indicate you are a hack. I wonder if that is your real name or if you are just baiting people to start arguments and prevent any real discussion of the issue?

“Ramon F Herrera – First off, I doubt that you are a “Yankee”.
Genuine, from Cambridge. You may inquire at MIT about me.
Unless you claim that Yankees cannot have Hispanic names, which is racist.

“The White House is scared that other states will follow Arizona’s lead, then they lose their leverage and bye bye Amnesty. This is all political maneuvering with the Citizen’s of Arizona as the pawns who pay the price.” – Noz
I disagree, we all are the pawns who’ll pay the price when the Radical Islamic Extremist Cell that entered the USA from Mexico sets off a bomb in a US City.
President NoBo has a responsibility to secure the border regardless of losing the influx of future democrat voters.

How about the Obanana’s Oath of Office “I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Our leaders in government have turned a blind eye to illegal immigrants long enough.
Now a state with a governor who had enough backbone to turn the table is being scorned by the Obama administration, boycotted by other states, and illegals are allowed to protest for their rights. This would be somewhat amusing if not totally ridiculous and despicable.
If you want to know your rights as an illegal, go to another country without legal papers, passport, etc,. and your rights will be looking through cell bars. If you are illegal you have no rights. Before anyone blows a fuse about my views, I believe in pursuing a better way of life, following and fulfilling the American dream, but do it legally.
I myself am an immigrant of Hungary and migrated legally, earned my citizenship papers by learning the Declaration of Independence, Constitution of the U.S., pledge to flag, history of presidents, and most of all learned to speak the language of the soil my feet stepped on. And I never cost taxpayers a cent.
Unfortunately we have an administration that is building a purchased voting bloc with immigration reform allowing more illegals to pour in costing taxpayers billions of dollars and depleting more jobs needed by American citizens. We need to close the borders. We cannot sustain all the illegals pouring into the country.

Apparently the “Justice” dept is unaware that illegal immigrants are criminals.

I think that it good that their doing this because really it is discrimination cause there going to stop you if you look illegal. Really people if you don’t agree I think thats dumb like put yourself in our place you would be do the same thing. You would be fighting it too!!

Arizona does plan to country sue the feds for not doing the job that they are supposed to do not the ones the select to do. CVJ wrote about 2 men shot to death south of the I-8 corridor. It is the main track that the drug haulers use, they attack each other all of the time stealing each others drugs. That is why they had armed guards with the drug ” mules” and they usually kill each other. I have lived in theis state from birth but have traveled the planetyy. i have had to produce my papers in every country I visit, have to show them on a regular baisi. Why is it that mexicans believe that they are special and do not need papers?
I do request something of poster, i know it is easy to hate people that you have never met or had to experience the problems that start situations like this, but please do not distort or manufacture supposed truths. The armed truck full of autoimatis weapons line from CVJ id total bunk. If he would figure out that American citizens are not allowed to have automatic weapons and then parade them around where others can see and report them. Get it right of don’t blow lies around.
For all of you that do not believe that has become a problem, why not pack your families up and come on down to the border for a little camping trip. Don’t forget your sunscreen and bullet proof vest.

“We Yankees will have no resource but sending another Sherman down there.” —
I think the word you were looking for is ‘recourse’.
High capacity semi-auto rifles are either illegal or restricted in most northern states and I’ve seen a lot of yankees shoot. Long range, you’re not too impressive so what are you going to come after us with?
My AR is sighted in at 300 yards. My .270 is zeroed at 400.
Do you think your airsoft will get that far?

oonogil, how about the 50cals out now,single shot and good for distance. I am a fair long shot and 400 is for beginners.

Too bad the citizens can’t file a lawsuit against the federal government for NOT having an AZ-type law.

What part of *illegal* do people not understand?? Get all of them the hell out of this country!! And KEEP them out! I would vote for the governor of Arizona for President tomorrow!! At least she had some balls!! OBAMA ADMINISTRATION LISTEN UP: The MAJORITY of voting legal American citizens AGREE with the Arizona law!!!

People, oonogil said it perfectly. AZ is not setting policy. Just mandating that all state and local officials enforce the federal policies to the best of their abilities. The Obama administration is posturing to get latino votes.

As a naturalized citizen, I am shocked that the American Justice Department should sue the State of AZ for a law adopted by American citizens to protect themselves from illegal immigration. It is embarrassing for the U.S. to join forces with other countries to condemn the AZ law passed by Americans! The U.S. is now the greatest debtor nation in the world and our labor markets are overflowing. Why not enact some sort of immigration moratorium and enforce our immigration laws as strictly as Mexico does?
Yeh Ling-Ling
Alliance for a Sustainable USA

Obama keeps putting immigration off because his granmother was denied citizenship.

Slappychuckles”…your 12:24 post is EXACTLY RIGHT…but how do we convince the “dumbed down right” of this??? They are the ones that keep “backlash voting” the conservatives back in who are joined to the hip with greedy big businesses. And they are not even smart enough to understand they are voting against themselves and their own socioeconomic status, which is badly in decline.

Where is the story about Obama holding the border hostage until he gets all of what he wants?? This president is a what in for me person and cares less about America.

Most everyone posting here doesn’t live in Arizona like I do,and they don’t see all of the ”Hate Groups”that are behind this FARCE. As we speak organizations associated with the KKK have assembled at the border with high powered rifles ready to hunt ”Brown People”. Is this what this country has come too?? In fact Police orginizations all along the Arizona/Mexico border claim that violent crime along the border has decreased over the past three years. I wonder then, why this is such a ”hot button” issue now? Could it be that the local Republicans are batteling for their political lives because of all the corruption? Of course highlighting Illegal Immigration is a great way of taking the spotlight off of their failures and corruption.It’s a smokescreen put up by the racist government of Arizona and each and everyone of you have had way too much of the Kool Aid…

Yes! Finally! I’m all for them fighting this law! It hasn’t even gone into effect yet and I’m already finding a bunch of stories coming out of Arizona about racial profiling since the day after Brewer signed it. I live in Nebraska which isn’t even a border state and they want to do that here. Our immigration problem in NE is minimal compared to Arizona. I hope they bring a lawsuit against my state if they decide to do the same.

Linda Gray, we all care about crime. To say people don’t care about crime or drug cartells of for the well being of this nation because people don’t agree with they way it is to be handled is very closed minded. This your either with me or against me attitude is killing this country. The fact is these folks are not forcing drugs on us we as a nation are demanding them. I would suggest everyone focus on the cause of the problem. Demand for cheap labor and drugs. That’s all us, not them. How many business owners do you know that have been arrested for hiring illegal immagrants? That is another issue we have in this country. We let the rich white man get away with everything and blame everyone else.

@ Jessie Garcia….please site your credible sources about the KKK groups and which police organizations are citing a drop in border violence. The good people of Texas sure don’t see that stat!

TO HELL WITH HOLDER AND OBAMA!
You can help the people of Arizona by contributing to Governor Brewer’s Border Security & Immigration Legal Defense Fund. Put your money where your mouth is and SEND THEM A DONATION!
To paraphrase that classic liberal exhortation:
Do it for YOUR children!

The DEMOCRAT Attorney General, ( who will not be defending the State of Arizona for possible conflict of intrest), even says the Obama lawsuit is ridiculous and cannot prevail.
Termed a huge taxpayer waste, is there anything left to see, but sedition from Holder by siding with the Aztlan builders declaring war on the USA?
The majority of the USA wants to back Arizona.
Buy Arizona …it is good for the Country.
Their Governor has a defense fund growing by leaps and bounds.
At least sending money there is an investment here, not an outsource to India super-hiways committed to by Geithner or some other outlandish poppycock.

NOW WASHINGTON WANTS A SHOWDOWN AND GO AFTER A WOMAN. OBAMA BETTER KNOW A WOMAN WITH A MADE UP MIND IS NOT GOING TO ROLL OVER AND PLAY DEAD. OBAMA IS WRONG ON THIS- BE A PRESIDENT AND UPHOLD OUR LAWS OR YOU WILL DEFINITLY BE OUT AT THE END OF YOUR TERM. THE USA DESERVES BETTER THAN YOU.

CND FOX – The US Drug enforcement agency web site is a good place to start for the “proof” you seek regarding Mexican drug cartel activities in the US. The US Border Patrol, for the past ten years has had a dual mission: 1) stop illegal border crossings and 2) intercept and stop illegal drug trafficking. No one in their right mind argues that the drug cartels are just a myth or that they are not firmly entrenched in the US. Of course they are. Call any Sheriff department in any border state, call any congressional representative of any border state — both democrats and republicans both recognize drug trafficking and human smuggling as a huge national security issue. As for the Arizona law being bigoted — what specifically about the law is bigoted? It calls for national immigration law to be equally enforced across all ethnic groups.

dontprofilemebro – the Pinal County Sheriff’s Department has answered all those questions. Your post is slanderous. And investigators have repeatedly said that the rancher in Arizona was shot by a drug smuggler from Mexico. You can live in denial if you’d like, but the rest of us live in the real world, where real dangers centered around drug smuggling and human trafficking exist.

No, I don’t see the “big picture” dontprofilemebro.
Outside of you are trying to blame the victim for the crime.
“Five men suspected of smuggling drugs across the border ambushed a Pinal County sheriff’s deputy Friday in a remote area south of Phoenix, …
More than one helicopter came under fire during the evening as officers rescued Deputy Louie Puroll, who had been shot with an AK-47-type weapon around 4 p.m., according to the Sheriff’s Office.”
“The night of the killing, officers followed a single set of footprints to the U.S.-Mexico border, Dever said.”

Listen I’m tired of listening to the news and hearing about obama wanting to sue the state of arizona when he has his own problem to worry about I live in Florida and I agree that Florida needs this law as well especially for the cubans and hatians

Civil War ?

CND FOX, I can’t speak for other states, but Arizona, voters passed the Workers Sanctions Law several years ago, aimed at hitting businesses that knowingly hire illegals with hefty penalties. That’s how we showed our disdain for the employers. How do you show your disdain for those employers who hire illegals? Of course, with identity theft rampant, it’s easy for an illegal immigrant to buy someone else’s social security number, which enables any company that hires them to avoid penalties. Whenever there is a law, there is a way around it.

we are Americans and it seems our government is lost on what to do . it looks like we are going to have to do it ourselves. get my drift

This site censored the link for Arizona’s legal defense fund.—Therefore, just do a Google search like this Governor Brewer + Arizona and you will find the Governor’s contact info including the mailing address.—However, you can also call Gov Brewer and ask for the link/site for making an online donation.—-Please do your part, make a donation today!!—-Gov
Brewer and Arizona are not just fighting for Arizona and its citizens—they are fighting for every state in our country and every US citizen/worker/tax payer in our country as well.

I think it is funny how a lot of these people think that most of these illigals are using false ssn’s. The fact is most of them are paid cash under the table because it is less then minimum wage. They one that have fake ssn’s are paying into the system then are not able to file, so the tax money is kept by the gov.

“Ask not”…to your knowledge has that law ever been enforced or did the conservatives and prior administration “defund” the enforcement agency so much…that they cannot realistically enforce it? You should be able to give me a few examples. I have never seen any in the press. In any event, what you have just said is no justification for this “mean spirited” law. It was “enacted” for right wing politics purposes only.

@Nero Observer, My observation is most Americans could care less if we let Mexico take over most of the South West. As long as you don’t interupt American Idol, Lost, or Survior, they would never even know it happened.

The “Jimmy Carter” president speaks!!

It is interesting to see those who support illegal immigration trying to do so by blaming it on the “wealthy corporatocracy.” This does not address the fact that most of us who oppose illegal immigration also believe the government should vigorously enforce our laws, including those against hiring illegals. That would no doubt be easier to do if we didn’t let them steal identities, and get around the I-9 form so easily.

Cnd fox, the way the workers sanctions law was written makes it difficult to enforce. It falls under the jurisdiction of each county attorney to enforce, not local law enforcement. Also, the way the law was written, a business has to “knowingly” hire an illegal immigrant. The “knowingly” is easily gotten around when an illegal uses a stolen or fraudulent social security number, so prosecution has been difficult, espcially since crime rings centered around stealing and selling social security numbers has sprung up in recent years. The law is about three years old and no one has been successfully prosecuted yet.
I might add that politics has nothing to do with this. We are a nation of laws. Everyone, without exception, is expected to follow those laws. I am a registered democrat and a legal immigrant (naturalized citizen) — but that doesn’t mean I feel anyone is above the law. Laws are in place for a reason.
But the workers sanctions law was intended to send a clear message to employers: knowingly hire illegals and risk losing your business license. It’s not the fault of the voters that crime rings and businesses found away around it.

This is one subject that I do not agree with the White House on. If there is a federal law making illegal immigration a crime, then why the heck can’t a state try to enforce it?
For the last 30 years or more every President, Repub and Dem, has ignored the real and growing problem of illegal immigration. Sure, it helps the illegals, it helps the corporations and businesses that are taking advantage of lower wages due to the influx of illegals, but it is harming lower class Americans by lowering wages (as an example a chicken processing worker made $19 hr twenty years ago, now they pay under $10 hr.) and taking jobs away from them.
And don’t anyone say that b.s. that those jobs are ones Americans don’t want to do. Who was doing them before the huge influx of illegals? How many of these jobs are less safe because employers know illegals won’t sue, thus little or no safety measures are taken?
We need to control illegal immigration. Huge fines and perhaps jail time for repeat offenders who hire illegals would be a good place to start a.s.a.p.

dontprofilemebro,
Your Aztlan support is showing with a huge glare.
Why?
#1DOUGLAS, AZ – In a heavily-redacted Cochise County Sheriff’s Office report, ABC15 has learned that people in the area told investigators they heard Rob Krentz talking to his brother over a two-way radio.
One person said Krentz asked his brother to call Border Patrol because he had come “across an illegal alien who was injured and Rob was giving assistance.”
Another woman told detectives, “Rob sounded normal on the radio and she didn’t feel he was in any distress when he was talking.”
That was the last anyone would hear from Rob Krentz.
When investigators found Krentz’s body his dog “Blue” was nearby.
The protective dog was still alive but suffering from a gunshot wound.
The report stated that family members asked authorities to euthanize him.
Both Krentz and his dog were found near an ATV that was still running.
One detective thinks the murder happened more than 1,000 feet away from where they found his body.
The detective speculated that Krentz was on the moving ATV with Blue in the back until he lost consciousness and then slumped over beside it.
Nearly entire paragraphs, detective narratives, and lists cataloging evidence collection have been blackened out by CCSO.
read full story here:
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AZTLAN? NO THANK YOU.

Apparently Obama and the progressives seriously want to instigate the next US civil war.
So be it.

Besides harshly punishing employers who hire illegals, how about giving an amnesty of a different sort. If an illegal will come forward, register as such, we will give them 2 months to get themselves organized and then grant them free travel for themselves and a small amount of personal goods, back home.
With widespread news coverage of strict laws and enforcement on those hiring illegals, the jobs will dry up for them. The illegals would need time to sell belongings and a free ride home would be the decent thing to do since the feds enabled the illegal situation for decades, both Repub and Dems.

dontprofilemebro, I was able to find the video you might have been referring to by myself.
The news said militia groups, ADL, an non-government, consider that one of the individuals involved is linked to groups the ADL considers hate groups.
ADL on the other hand doesn’t provide any evidence to justify their position.
ADL is known for calling those groups they disagree with politically as “hate groups”. They are against free speech for those who do not support their political position.

Lydia, the free ride home as long as they are fingerprinted and other wise kept that would be needed if they ever came into the country illegally again. Along with an automatic deportation if they come in, and not being allowed back into the country for ten years.
There are other things that need to be considered, but in general, I have nothing against the free ride home.

“Ask not”…I respect your answer (1:20 post) but I do believe you are being very naive when you say this has “nothing to do with politics”. It has EVERYTHING to do with politics. Its INTENT is to emotionally fire up the “base” because the Party doing it …has no solutions for the problems facing our nation. It is simple “backlash, emotional” politics.

Well said, George Jetson…
It’s not about what “the majority” wants as our laws are based on the constitution, not unbridled democracy. Plus, what role “majority will” plays is measured only once every two years during federal elections, the last of which gave Democrats a sweeping mandate that will correctly carry out its agenda until any future elections change the composition of government.
If the AZ law differs from federal law, than there is a constitutionally solid reason to get involved. Subsection G of AZ 1070 places misdemeanor status to illegally being in the US, above and beyond the Title 8 civil nature of illegal presence found in federal statute. Where a conflict exists between state in federal law on areas such as immigration that are explicitly federal in nature, the constitution’s Article IV Supremacy Clause holds that federal law trumps state law.
So if you’re a conservative who loves “strict constructionist” interpretation and your main concern is “the rule of law,” you’ll have no problems when the judicial branch rules against AZ’s overreaching attempt to enact Jim Crow West.

Now we will see a great embarrassment to this administration when the Supreme Court(if it even gets that far)kicks this back farther than a Super Bowl punter. If this law is brought down than the federal law it was copied from would then be in danger of repeal. Do not think so!

I think Arizona should bus all of their illegals to San Fransisco and other cities that have so called sancturary laws that forbid enforcement of illegal immigration laws. I’m sure they’d be thrilled to have them. I mean since San Francisco voted to boycott Arizona, didn’t they offer to take in all of Arizona’s illegals? Didn’t they?

Holder claims to be concerned about states usurping federal jurisdiction. What about the federal authorities abdicating their role in maintaining the border security? I hope the AZ lobby has a savvy lawyer. I am going to love seeing the film picked up from Buenos Aires Wildlife Area that shows paramilitary personnel armed with automatic weapons escorting a field convoy of what appears to be illegals working off their payment to coyotes by smuggling in contraband. Once that’s part of the public record, how’s the Obama administration going to come back and say they have followed through with good faith?

Make Some Sense Please,
You need to learn the law before you start spouting off.
Every single legal alien in the United States is required, REQUIRED to carry their immigration papers, it is FEDERAL LAW for them to do so. If you are a citizen or legal resident and are stopped by police all you have to do is show them a valid ID which 99% of Americans or legal residents have. I don’t know about you but every time I was stopped for anything by the police I was asked to show ID and in case you’re wondering I’m white. You live in LA LA land if you think the police will never ask for ID weather you are a citizen or not.
It is also mandated in the constitution that it is the Federal Governments job to secure our nation and borders and if you think letting millions of illegal aliens into our country every year is securing out nation you are seriously mistaken.
I love how liberals spout off about how we should give amnesty to all illegal aliens and let them move to our neighborhoods while they live behind gated communities where they never have to deal with all the problems that come with illegal immigration.
I don’t play over $600 a month in property taxes to pay for an illegal alien to go to the high school in MY neighborhood. I pay taxes to further the education of American Citizens period.
CMH

I think Holder has more important things to do like enforce the Federal statues.
The majority of people that are being victimized by the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT are Hispanic American Citizens. The majority support the law.
The Feds are incompetent no matter whether Legislative or Executive branch. So tell them thanks for their input to State security but to stay in DC where they are safe from violent..oh wait DC has one of the highest violent crime rates in America…it is also ran by the same incompetent Legislature…oh my do you think there is a connection?

Yeah, why bother with the their most important functions as outlined in the US Constitution, protecting the country and setting a budget when they have much more important things to do like amassing power and control over the peons.

ABC cutting quotes from Arizona’s ABC affiliate to keep the lid on the war in Arizona…..priceless.

Ever wonder WHY Obama has never gone to AZ?? Suppose he would be asked for LEGAL papers?? Every country you go into you MUST carry a Visa or Passport.
Being asked for your Papers of identification are not unusual. As an AZ resident, I am glad that we finally have the guts to do what is necessary, that the feds will not do for fear of losing the votes.

What about California Penal code 834b? Looks like the Arizona law to me.

Everybody is SO convinced this is about race. The politicians are using it as a soapbox to gather popularity while not looking under the layers to the real problem. The real problem is people coming here to take advantage of what this great country has to offer and not being willing to become LEGAL CITIZENS to reap those benefits. Those of us who are,(legal citizens) end up giving these people a free ride at our expense and then we wonder why our economy has such problems.
This is NOT ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR RACE OR ETHINIC GROUP. IT’S ABOUT ILLEGAL ALIENS OF ALL BACKGROUNDS AND NOTHING MORE.

and btw FYI if your so for it just start paying for them all the money they take from my children. for school, daycare free lunches, free childcare, social security that they don’t pay into. the list goes on and on and on. No one is saying these are mean people they may be very nice. but they are sucking the life out of hard working people paying for them and I for one am sick and tired of it. I will purposely buy things from Arizona to support them. I;m even going to plan a trip. to spend my money there!!!!!!

In Texas we remember the Alamo, Goliad, Gonzales, & Battle of San Jacinto! Texan blood was the price of our freedom from the Mexican federales. Our heroes were named Houston, Travis, Crockett, & Bowie as well as Seguin & Zapata!
If you are in the US illegally, you are a criminal! GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY NOW! SUPPORT ARIZONA!
Look, Director of Citizenship and Immigration Services, Presidents Obama & Calderon, AG Holder, Hillary Clinton, La Raza, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, et al. Even you have to admit we are a nation of laws, but it appears you want us to ignore the people who break these laws. In 1986, Congress passed the Immigration Reform and Control Act, or IRCA, which granted approximately 2.8 million undocumented immigrants legal status in the United States.
This act encouraged more illegal immigration. When AZ attempts to address the lawlessness, you equate it to a racist act when you know this is false. You are encouraging these criminals to stand on our streets waving their Mexican flags like they’re still in Mexico. It’s an insult to American citizens & legal immigrates. ENFORCE OUR CURRENT LAWS OR THE STATES WILL!
Support AZ! All states should pass similar laws until the federal government begins to enforce current law! It’s all about political will, not political correctness!

What if officers conducted this fairly and pulled everyone over and ask for their documents? I suppose Caucasions would probably change their stance then…LOL
Posted by: dontprofilemebro
I believe in most states, when a car is pulled over, the driver is always asked for their documents (drivers license, registration and insurance), regardless of race. Stop pretending that this law allows cops to pull over a car or stop someone for nothing. It has to be a legal stop (speeding, running a red, etc.). Only when the driver is unable to produce a drivers license, registration or proof of insurance only then can a cop ask “are you in the country legally?”
Only the idiots and the truly misinformed still believe that the Arizona law allows cops to pull someone over or stop them simply to ask them if they are in the country legally. It has to be a legal stop AND during the stop, there has to be reasonable suspicion, based on the person not being able to produce for example a drivers license, to inquire about their immigration status.

I’m white, and I would gladly carry any documentation the police wants. I’m all in favor of the Arizona Law.

BYE, BYE AMERICAN PIE!
Here is the Attorney General of the United States, Mr. Holder, attacking the people of Arizona for daring to replicate a federal law (passed in 1952) requiring non-Americans to present immigration cards for identification.
Since the U.S. Government has NOT imposed the law that IT is required BY LAW to impose, and is now demanding that the people of Arizona also NOT impose, there is only ONE solution to all of this.
OPEN ALL THE BORDERS.
Let’s let everyone INTO this nation while the rest of us just sit back; don’t go to work; don’t pay taxes; etc. and see what Mr. Holder and Mr. Obama do then.
Just HOW many Illegal Aliens have put a man on the moon from their countries? Will they have the educations and skills to then make ANY major contributions to this nation IF we simply stand back?
Just HOW will THEY raise the standard of living here by being here illegally? They are LOWERING the standard of living for every lawful American citizen while Obama/Holder have sided with the Illegal Aliens!
THAT is the outcome of what this Administration is requiring. The U.S. Government has stolen American jobs from Americans and sent them to China; and is now demanding that American citizens are SECOND CLASS citizens and have NO right to protections FROM illegal aliens.
Does the government in Washington, D.C. NOT read the polls? Americans HATE the federal government now.
Does the government think that IF someone should BOMB Washington, D.C., 9-11-style, that the American people would have any sadness for the passing of those in D.C. given what those same people are doing to this nation’s people? No.
It IS that bad across America now.
Every night in this western community, there are stabbings, and fatal shootings BY illegal aliens against Americans AND against fellow illegal aliens. Who pays for all of that? We do.
And, Holder and Obama think that THIS is what America is supposed to be?
They need to go back to where they originated and leave the rest of honest citizens alone.
Obama in 2008 is now “NObama” for 2012.

You xenophobes are either missing the point or ignoring it…immigration enforcement is exclusively the jurisdiction of the federal government, period.
And to all of you who claim Obama is “un-American” for his stance on this issue, you must all also agree that Ronald Reagan was by far the most “un-American” President of all time for granting amnesty to all illegals.
Funny, you never hear them disavow Reagan for that…gee, I wonder why. *rme*

The AZ law dose nothing to set or change US immigration law all it dose is enforce current law but with more restraints on the police then the federal law has . In the AZ law you must already have a done an action that broke a law to have contact with the police but under federal law they can stop you just for how you look or act and nothing more. Also under federal law a state has the right to enforce laws that the federal government has grossly refused to enforce for there own safety such as this one were the feds have refused to enforce federal immigration laws and in doing so have left the states saddled with extreme debit, crime, cost and other problems from the lack of federal enforcement. I know that any time I have been stop by the cops be it driving or walking I have been ask for my papers or ID so why should that be okay for me but not for an Illegal immigrant? And what part of breaking a law is a crime do you not understand? You came here illegally that is breaking our law and so you’re a criminal period! If you came here just to have your child born here you have no real connection to this country and your child then should not have any citizenship rights because of that. I believe that unless one or both parents are a citizen then and only then should a child born here become a citizen just like it is with the majority of all countries in the world! if you do not like that then may be we should just use Mexico’s immigration laws as our own and fallow them to the letter of the law and show people what real hard core anti immigration laws really are!

To CND FOX: Talk to other first generation immigrant friends — people from Greece, Albania, India — people who waited years and years to come here legally. People whose relatives paid thousands and thousands of dollars to guarantee they would be able to pay for themselves when they got here. What are they — stupid??!

It’s time for Big Brother to register and provide verifiable documentation to all current U.S. citizens.. welcome to the new normal.

good job DOJ(Department of Jacka$$es), you are goiong against 76% of Americans feelings….you can be replaced as well

Just another example of the failed Obama administration. The Federal government no longer serves in the interests of its citizens. The current regime is a disgrace. Who is going to sue them for failing to enforce the law? Obviously the un-Justice department is incapable of doing anything worthwhile.

For those interested in the truth…
Violent crime is lower in AZ now than it has been since the early 70′s, and property crime rates are at the lowest they’ve been since the 60′s.
The claim that this law is necessary because of the out of control violence that illegal immigration brings with it is just unsubstantiated fear mongering.
And if any of you obvious Obama haters are at all interested in the truth, you can use “the Google” to see how much MORE money and resources the Obama Administration has devoted to border control than did the Bush Administration.
So again…why the sudden outcry now, under an Administration that is doing more for border security than its predecessor? What is dofferent about Obama, aside from his doing more to protect the border?
Gee, what ever could it be? *rme*

prettywitty | – Amnesty and the Arizona illegal immigration law are two separate issues. And Reagan did not grant amnesty to ALL illegals. Under both Reagan and Clinton, those seeking amnesty were required to come forward, file an application (which needed approval). They also had to submit to fingerprinting and a background check. Immigrants with a criminal background either in the US or Mexico were NOT granted amnesty. These are the rules that are applied to anyone who applies for legal residency in the US.
The criticism under Clinton was that the process was rushed and too many ineligible immigrants were granted amnesty. Under Reagan, there was no rush, so ineligible immigrants were later deported.
Border Patrol routinely captures known criminals, drug traffickers and human smugglers who maintain a residence in the US. These folks, just like under Clinton and Reagan, are not expected to come forward because if they do, they will be automatically deported.
Pretending that all illegals will come out of hiding if they are offered amnesty is foolish. The criminal elements have no reason to come out of hiding.

Dad R…
Why weren’t you screaming about this when Bush was POTUS and did way less to protect the border than this administration has done?
You don’t have to answer…I know why.

Prettywitty:
When you cant win on the law, you should always attack the other side. Motto #1 when losing a case.
Motto #2: When you can’t win on the law and can’t get people to come to your side picking on the other side, plead public policy.
I wonder what will come next…

For all the open border advocates, those of you who aren’t currently living in a state invaded by illegal aliens to the extent the taxes to support them are breaking your back, you’ll be happy about this.
The Attorney General of Mexico is also filing lawsuit against Az. Take a good long look. The Attorneys General from Mexico and the U.S. joining forces.
Have any doubt this country belongs to the citizens of the U.S. any longer ? It doesn’t.
There’s also a rumor being floated around in Washington, maybe from the administration to test the waters, that Obama just might issue an executive order and grant amnesty regardless of the damage it will do, ignoring the majority of this country and leaving it up to taxpayers in the most impacted area with the debts.
Welcome to Mexico, folks.

Mexico has asked Arizona’s court to strike down Arizona’s law.
Arizona has an interest in protecting its citizens too, Mexico does not seem to recognize that right though.

So, I heard on the radio that the Obama is going to give illegals amnesty by signing an executive order. Will that be signed just in time for elections? No wonder the President doesn’t want to protect our borders. The drug lords must love this guy. I guess it’s about time someone takes a stand.

Jhaplin…
The law is on my side, for the aforementioned reason and for the fact that racial profiling and discriminatory laws are unconstitutional. Though I do agree…this uber-Conservative Court is worrisome; but I’d like to think the travesty that is this law is a bridge too far for even them.
FYI…I am no lefty lib. I am center-left at most, and would probably agree with moderate Republicans on some things (like the 2nd Amendment)if there were any moderate Republicans left with whom to agree.
And I disagree that calling a spade a spade is an unjust attack used as a distraction. That’s just sticking your head in the sand, something I won’t do.

The first thing AZ should do is VERIFY that the head of the Justice Department is legally appointed to prosecute AZ. DEMAND to see the BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!!

I am retired US Navy and have served this country hoorably for 22 years. I am sickened and saddened to see what is happening to our once great nation. Our government is turning a blind eye to the disastrous effects of illegal immigration. Not only do they (Democrat and Republican) refuse to enforce the illegal immigration laws that have been on the books for years. It seems that they want “open” borders so that anyone can come here illegaly. We cannot just selectively enforce the laws we like and ignore the one’s we don’t. That is a huge disservice to the American people and should stop NOW. We should send a message to those politicians, both Democrat and Republican that this is not acceptable and send THEM to the unemployment line in November.

Just another example of the failed Obama administration. The Federal government no longer serves in the interests of its citizens. The current regime is a disgrace. Who is going to sue them for failing to enforce the law? Obviously the un-Justice department is incapable of doing anything worthwhile. posted by DADR I guess the same could be said of the bush administration since our borders where protected during his regime. I don’t suffer from selective memory as people on the right do as I remember it no President in the past ever stopped the flow of illegals comming into this country. Now that Obama is in office you want other to believe that he is the only one who is not trying to stop it. Its sad so many people are so blind that they really believe another party is going to do different. When election time comes they all will change their tune for votes.

IMPEACH the TRAITOR

CND FOX: Can you cite a clause or two from the Arizona law that highlights it as “racist” or “race baiting”? I thought the same thing until I read the law … maybe you caught something I didn’t. The bill clearly states how and when officers can ask about immigration status, and clearly says that the suspect’s actions, not race or national origin, are to be used to determine “reasonable suspicion.” Even if there is reasonable suspicion, local law enforcement can’t do anything but call in federal immigration authorities who will make the final determination and take whatever action is necessary. I’m not sure what part of that is the racist part.

Obama’s ultimate goal is to push the U.S. into third-world status. This is just another step in that direction.

“(10) Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to require an agreement under this subsection in order for any officer or employee of a State or political subdivision of a State—
(A) to communicate with the Attorney General regarding the immigration status of any individual, including reporting knowledge that a particular alien is not lawfully present in the United States; or
(B) otherwise to cooperate with the Attorney General in the identification, apprehension, detention, or removal of aliens not lawfully present in the United States.”
This is from Federal immigration law, and as it states, Arizona and other officers have every right to verify immigration status.

“Mary Ellen Burke”…let me “help” you out by suggesting something positive. Why don’t you try another “News source” than “Faux News” for your “facts”. Your lack of “worldly awareness” is clearly lacking. Republicans are USING people like you…but the majority of us in this nation just do not think “your way” anymore. I hope the censors lets this post. I tried very hard to be kind.

If you are still not convinced that the Arizona law is correct, then go to LA and visit some schools there. It’s total chaos, no one is realy learning anything and gangs have just about taken over the city. Arizona is just trying to prevent their state from becoming like LA and other cities in California. Voters need to wake up and go to the polls enmasse in November to vote out all these fools wh refuse to enforce our immigration laws.

dontprofilemebro – considering that the Arizona law warns officers that they are on their own financially if the department is sued due to their racial profiling, yes, I think they will be extremely careful. The officer will have to pay his own legal defense fi he profiles. That’s good incentive not to profile. Are officers Perfect? No. But the worst that will happen under this law is that an officer might will pull over an unlicensed, uninsured, driver with no registration and no identification and ask that person (because he has no identification), “are you in the country legally?” The person will probably respond, “yes, I have a student visa in my wallet which I left in my dorm room.” Officer will run the name through a data base, much the way a drivers license is checked for felonies and warrants, the if the driver is telling the truth, he/she will be sent on their way.
Whether the officer has reasonable suspicion to run the driver’s name is gained through the driver’s actions, not his race.

Hey Mary, why don’t you show us some evidence that Hezbollah and Al Qaeda terrorists are coming through Mexico?
Or is this something else you were force fed through FAUX NEWS…

@jh Stop bashing Fox news! Not sure what planet you are on,but Obama is nothing but bad news. The majority of people,if you read the polls disagree with Obama. obama is pushing the usa into nothing. I am going to be happy to push him out of the white house doors!!

Mary, you are fighting a losing battle. If people wanted to know the truth, there are a number of good credible resources, like the US Drug Enforcement Agency, Customs and Border Enforcement, etc. Not to mention that these folks can pick up a phone and call their congressional representative and ask these questions. They chose not to do this because they don’t want to know the truth. It’s easier for them to call people racist and stupid.

“JENNY” (your 3:50 post) WE ARE NOT “bashing” “Faux News”…we don’t have to. They do such a “great job” of making themselves look “non-credible”. It is “right wing punditry” Jenny…nothing more…nothing less. And its only intent is to “fire up” the Republican right wing. But the neat thing is, that it is also causing that Party to “implode”. So I hope they keep up their “good work”.

Jhaplin,
I never said that states cannot help the federal government enforce federal immigration laws. In fact, that is what the federal government is doing already, without the Arizona law. The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, reported that it deported 387,790 illegal immigrants in 2009, which set the all-time record. It is projecting that it will deport 400,000 in 2010. My point is that states cannot make their own immigration laws.
Make Some Sense Please, you said that Sandra Day O’Connor, former Supreme Court justice, predicts that the Supreme Court will unanimously overturn the Arizona legislation. Can you give me the link please? All I can find is that Justice O’Connor said that the law may have gone a little too far, that immigration is the province of the federal rather than state government. She was also worried about racial profiling.

Mr. Obama, this is a simple question. Did you not promise Ms. Brewer you would contact her within two weeks of her meeting with you? Did you contact her as you said you would? No? Well then you Sir are a liar. This is the same arrogance we are experiencing as citizens. You cannot be counted on and your integrity is shot to h*ll. I can’t believe you felt you could get away without this communication? Only children act like this.
You may have forgotten or you may have wanted to make a statement that you take direction from no one. Either way, YOU’RE OUT!
I never thought I’d see an American President Attack one of our own States after that State had requested Federal assistance pursuant to Federal Law.

I always carry my identification around with me (Drivers license, insurance etc) In fact, you are required by law to do so. If I was told that I needed to carry other forms of ID to stop illegal immigration, I would gladly do so. Incidentally, illegal immigration comes not just from South of the border but from all over the world. I applaud those immigrants who waited in line, filled out forms and came to our country LEGALLY and earned their citizenship. Those who come here illegally, should be sent back home and be told to do it the right way next time. If the federal government refuses to enforce our immigration laws, then there should be a constitutional amendment that allows each State to do so.

FYI,
The Federal immigration law specifically allows states and local governments to make their own immigration laws.
States cannot regulate immigration, that only means that a state cannot decide who can enter the country or who can stay. Arizona law does neither.

I guarantee you that if the federal government was required to reimburse each state and municipality for the cost of illegal immigration, all of this nonsense would cease immediatly and there would be no need for debate. The state of California is bankrupt, the schools are failing and state employees are being laid of or their hours are being cut back. As California goes, so does the rest of the USA. Is Obama blind or does he just not care? I firmly believe that we will have a new administration in 2012 with a brand new DOJ. Hopefully the new one will do better or at least attempt to do better than this one. If not, it’s 410 AD all over again and the Visgoths are at the gates!

“Holder is expected to also claim in his suit that the Arizona law will be enforced in a way that could cause discrimination based on race and nationality.”
As I recall, that suggestion was brought up in the 9th circuit federal appeals case of the Arizona law against employers of illegal aliens and the court said that the law could only be challenged on the as written basis. The law withstood the challenge and Holder has now asked the Supreme Court to strike down the law.
The Supreme Court decision should be this month on that case.

Well, the drug cartels have now setup observation posts in the hills in the US so they can track the movement of US law enforcement. Obama is an idiot…a political hack and digusting incompetent content to let people die as he plays politics.

Since when did we start allowing another country to start dictating to the US what our immigration policy should be? This is crazy. It is time for some REAL change in Washington DC. Let’s throw all the bums out!

Those who continue to insist that it’s only the republicans who see a need for strong border security, or those who believe that the republicans are lying about violence on the border, please call Representive Ann Kirkpatrick of Arizona – a democrat who is on the House Committee on Homeland Security – at her Washington office. You’ll hear from a trusted democrat what is really going on on the border. She’ll tell you why she is one of the many members of Congress (in both parties) who has been demanding that Washington do more to protect the border.
Enough of this blaming the republicans. Protecting the border and stopping the evils of human trafficking and drug smuggling is not about politics – it’s about doing what’s right.

If some of you ever saw what happened to some of the young girls brought across the border and forced to work in prostituion to pay their way across, You would stop your whining about someone asking for your ID when you are pulled over or stopped for a violation.

I have all ways wondered.. Why is it only the Federal Gvt Const. Responsibility to regulate Immigration WHEN for an Immigrant to come into the USA, they Have to Come into a STATE. Well, unless it is D.C. That is it.. Let’s DUMP ALL THE illegals into D.C.

Maby we should file a law suite for all the goverment people who let the 12 million people or more come into the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA knowing that it was not legal and there are federal laws which are very much like the Arizona law. So much for Obamas said he would do for us, VOTE THEM OUT IN NOVEMBER AND THAT MABY OBAMA OUT!!!!

Put other people down just so you can feel better about yourself and soon no one will care how you feel or what happens to you.
Be completely preoccupied with yourself and your own problems and those around you will quickly alienate themselves from you. Listen to others conversations only long enough to find an opening so you can talk more about yourself. This will offend people and turn them off.
Exaggerate everything and become highly emotional about it. Drama becomes tiresome very quickly and soon people will avoid caring about what you have to say.
Ask for advice and then tell the person how stupid it is. Rudeness is a surefire way to alienate people.
Its better to humble yourself rather than be humbled!
Key verse: James 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up 5:6Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time. Commentary on James 4:10.

Only citizens that have an inch of character are angry over this law. Artist, musicians, cities and States are boycotting Arizona. Is it because they have ILLEGAL RELATIVES? My entire family (from grandparents to children) were and /or are AMERICAN BORN. I do however cherish my Puerto Rican culture, history and folklore. I was taught my ancestry as a little girl. At 52 I would fight for my country (The USA) but I will also rather die fighting bigotry and ignorance than to stand by the sideline ignoring it. Hell no. Jesus was not afraid to die in the cross for righteousness. Neither am I. I know there’s a few lunatics out there. Thankfully, you are THE MINORTIY in this great country of ours.

Rebellion is a grievous sin, since it is disobedience to God, and since it necessarily works such permanent physical ruin and social demoralization among our fellow-men.

Arizona and the country as a whole have dealt with undocumented immigrants forever. Why the big deal now? Governor Brewer shifted the focus of her deficiency as a Governor (very brightly I may add). Constituents were furious with her performance and rightly so. Now, President Obama all of a sudden is responsible for Arizona’s illegal immigration. Funny though that he just got into office. Let’s blame everything on the black man. That’s the real issue isn’t it? It kills you a black man is YOUR CHIEF IN COMMAND!!! Deal with it and grow up.

When is the corrupt Mexican government, stop interfering with “THE PEOPLE” of this nation? How can a foreign government get involved in the state of Arizona’s laws. Perhaps they are getting worried that if we halt the illegal immigration invasion, the billions of dollars they transfer out the country will not get to the upper echelon of President Calderon’s administration who siphons much of the money off. Perhaps they are getting worried across the border, that they will not be able to push all their desperately poor populations across the border, so taxpayers financially subsidize them. One thing for sure Obama and his Liberal-Communist Czars are heading towards an all out war, on American soil. taxpayers have been supporting foreign nationals and “Anchor Babies” for years. Enough is Enough! Learn more at NumbersUSA. WE ARE GOING TO LOSE OUR COUNTRY IF WE DON’T THROW OUT ALL PRO-AMNESTY INCUMBENTS, STARTING WITH SEN. HARRY REID (D-NV) IN NOVEMBER?

The Drug cartels just this last week threatened Nogales, Arizona police officers. Do we have to lose one of our own cops to increase the body count before something gets done. Is it okay if its across the border? Do you really think it won’t spill over? You don’t want the citizens to take matters into their own hands do you? If you won’t protect us, we have a right to protect ourselves.
Last week, a police chief in Cancun was shot and survived.
A deputy police chief in Nogales, Mexico, and his bodyguard were fatally shot in March when gunmen in a pickup truck opened fire on them with assault rifles.
In November 2008, the police chief for the Mexican state that includes Nogales was fatally shot as he entered a hotel with his bodyguard and other officers. The gunmen used grenades as diversions in the fatal ambush a few miles south of the Arizona border.

Cayeyana – why now? Its because it is getting more violent. These people aren’t coming across to jobs, they are coming to commit crimes. They cost us more money in law enforcement, hospitals, free services that your tax dollars pay for. We are losing money and they are stealing from us left and right. Do you really condone this?

Cayeyana,
You make an outrageous statement of something occuring even prior to the implementation of the Arizona law. Please cite the source of this story. If this happened, this truck driver has a serious lawsuit that could be pressed. But you really need to note, that first the Arizona law includes provisions for providing penalties against police officers who would operate in such manner (it’s written into the law itself). And two (most importantly) the situation you describe is perfectly legal if the questioning and detention were done by FEDERAL Immigration Agents (ICE). Exactly when are liberals like you going to start filing the lawsuits against the federal government? The Arizona law does nothing more than allow local police to enforce federal law, nothing more. Many cities, including Los Angeles, have volunteered and been provided funding for training and operations to do exactly what AZ wants to do. Where’s your outrage with those people? Is your claim that racial profiling will be accomplished only limited to the police officers in AZ? Be serious, you can’t claim that a citizen of this country is incapable of implementing these policies solely because they work for local authorities and not federal.

Why don’t you do a search? It was on az central and az family and every news channel. Here’s one:
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/5683868-heads-up-arizona-this-is-fascism

Lydia. That’s the problem with people that DON’T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THEY read. IF YOU “LOOK LIKE A MEXICAN” A DDRIVER’S LICENSE, REGISTRATION AND INSURANCE IS NOT ENOUGH. If you are tanned with dark hair, ALSO BRING YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND SOCIAl SECURITY CARD AT ALL TIMES. COME ON NOW. PAY ATTENTION.

I just saw the article and I don’t know if its true. He was stopped at the weigh station and detained by federal Customs and Immigration. Not local police. What I noticed was that Abdon didn’t speak very good English. His mother lives in Mexico and he was born in Fresno, CA. If you were born in the U.S. wouldn’t you be able to speak better English? My guess is he was born here and raised in Mexico (anchor baby). His wife spoke English as good as me. I’m not saying there is anything he did wrong. His answers just didn’t all add up to the officials. Its unfortunate that he was stopped and held, mistakes happen even now before the law is official.

Ha, ha, ha. I just read your comment about the trucker. IF HE SPOKE BETTER ENGLISH, then maybe he wouldn’t have being arrested? I would love to see you go to outside of the United states and get arrested because of your accent. Ha, ha, ha, you just proved what we’ve been saying. RACIAL PROFILING. ETHNIC CLEANSING. THANK YOU. I SAVED YOUR POST. I AM USING IT AS AN EXAMPLE WITH OUR PETITION. You are going to be read in every possible blog. That’s hilarious. Ha, ha, ha. Now I really got to go. Ciao. Ha,ha,ha.

Cayeyena, I read the Arizona law pretty thoroughly and I didn’t find anything about needing a birth certificate or social security card if you had a valid driver’s license. To get a license you have to show your birth certificate so that would be redundant. I think you are confusing what happens if you don’t have a license at all, in which case you would have to come up with some other form of i.d.
I’m glad your comment made me read the law, I like it better now. The part about employers who hire illegals a second time losing whatever licenses they need for their business is a terrific idea. I bet there are a lot of ‘cheaters’ hoping this law goes away. For the sake of our fellow Americans without jobs and justice for those employers who don’t cheat by hiring lower paid illegals, I hope this law goes into effect in every state.
By the way, the legal immigrants and those with work visas that I know, don’t like illegals here because it lowers their wages and makes finding a job more difficult.

You should not need it Lydia. THAT’S the point!! THE POLICE WILL AND ARE ALREADY ASKING FOR THEM, IF YOU LOOK LATINO (TANNED W/DARK HAIR) YOU WILL BE ASKED TO SHOW YOUR BIRTH CERTICATE. SOMETIMES, THAT WILL NOT BE ENOUGH. It is harrassment. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. Let’s say white people come to a Latino country. You are only visiting. But, we are going to trash you and arrest you because, we do not like whites and you’re stupid for not learning Spanish before you came to our Latin Country.

Obama is fight OUR General
Sueing One of our states, Arizona
Sueing to keep thousands out of work with his moratorium on drilling
Nominating Dr. Mengele to head up Medicare
Alienating our allies
Limply responding to direct provocations from North Korea, Iran and Russia
Put us in insurrmountable debt
Anyone feel comfortable with him as President for another two years.

Read the law before you form an opinion.
As best I remember it spells out at least 4 times that race cannot be used as a determinate to question legal residence.
It also says that a valid driver’s licence or any government issued ID can be used as proof of legal residency.
On occasion I tend to drive a little too fast. As a result I have been stopped by police in several states over the years. City cops, county, and State Troopers. Every single one of them asked to see my driver’s licence. Every single one. These days I go ahead and get out the driver’s licence along with my insurance card and Concealed Handgun Licence. I know he’s going to ask so why wait?
I don’t feel discriminated against because they ask everyone they stop. I don’t feel like I’m being harassed or victimized.
I feel like the cop is just doing his job, some people are too sensitive and our(?) Federal government cares more for illegal aliens than they do citizens. If a cop can ask me for my licence, why can’t he ask someone he suspects of committing a crime?

hmmm has anyone checked those other countries inmigration laws?? You will not stand a chance to live and stay period.The law is the law period. Im welcoming the debate in court.Its about time to take this country back.

regarding the trucker incident… big rigs are covered by the ICC, they have to have CDL’s, insurance papers with them AT ALL TIMES, regardless of nationality.
I will gladly carry my passport with me, along with my DL and proof insurance. If all state required legal residence to get a DL, that would be enough… but they don’t. And, whenever I am in a foreign country, I carry my passport any time I step off the hotel grounds. Enough said.

Benito, I wouldn’t expect to be able to move to any country I want to without following their rules for immigration. If you are talking about fairness, why only let poor from Mexico and S.A. in illegally, how about India or China or from the poor countries in Africa? We can’t because that is impossible. What we should do is support those governments that are truly trying to help their poor, support international charities that help the poor earn a better living. But allowing our border to remain open with drug wars over the border, drug smuggling and human trafficking, doesn’t address the problem of poverty, it just makes our poor that much poorer, as unskilled jobs are taken by illegals and the wages drop because illegals will work for less.

Keep your grubby actions against Arizonia out of their personal buisness. Most of the Country agrees with Arizona. Why can’t the Federal Government just accept the fact that most Americans are mad as hell about the way that the fed has ignored the illegal immigrant situation!

So when it comes down to it, Mr. Obama and Mr. Holder don’t believe we are a “rule of law” country and they’re taking their orders from the clown that came to our country and slammed Americans for getting tired of his illegals coming to our country and leeching off from the backs of hardworking Americans. I would never have guessed in a million years someone from another country would tell our Attorney General….and, our president what to do. Especially a country like Mexico. Thank God we have people like the governer of Arizona, it’s legislature, and the people of Arizona. At least they are trying to be a “rule of law” state like our federal government should be a “rule of law” government and protect Americans from this horrible invasion of illegals who are taking our jobs, money for education, health care, and hundreds of other services.

I’m a Mexican by birth and was brought here by my parents (legally) when I was only 2 years old. I’ve become a U.S. citizen and so has my wife. I feel that the others who want to come here should do it the same way my parents did it. The problem is that the U.S. makes it almost impossible to get those documents nowadays. They charge exorbitant fees and then turn the applicant down after a 2 minute interview without really explaining why. It has become a business for the U.S. to accept applications (that can cost up to $300) knowing full well that they will turn them down. Changes need to be made to make it easier to get visas and legal residency while they are in their countries. As for the AZ law, I’m not against it as a law. What concerns me is the timing. As you can see from the posts here, they are all aimed at Latinos, in particular, against Mexicans. This is what concerns me. Not that the law is wrong but that it will be abused. People should not be surprised to find Mexicans in the southwest and western states. These territories were, afterall, at one time part of Mexico and finding Mexicans there should not come as a surprise to anyone, including law enforcement. What would be out of the ordinary would be finding Asians, Middle Eastern and European whites there. But they will not be the ones to be asked to provide citizenship papers. It will be interesting to see who gets stopped once the law goes into effect. As for the comments that imply that only Mexican cartels deal in drugs and it is a Mexican problem, these persons forget about the Triads, Chinese and Russian mobs and American gangs. Drugs are a worldwide problem not soley Mexican. These problems have existed for many years but for some reason some persons seem to think that this started with the Obama administration. We all know that is not true. Wasn’t it the Repbulicans who recently told Obama to back off any intent to tackle the immigration issue this year? Now they are the ones voicing their frustration with the administration’s inaction. The problem needs to be addressed and solved. But it will require cool heads and the cooperation of all parties to come to a just and humane resolution.

I immigrated, from Canada,in 1969 to America. I had to carry my Green Card with me at all times. In 1970, our ski club went to a small fishing village in Mexico in order to raise funds for their local orphanage. We barely had unpacked when we were arrested by local police and brought into their station for questioning. My boyfriend was an American detective and he told me not to tell the police what he did as he would be jailed. Is this reverse racism? We were caucasian. If an illegal from south of the border looks like a Latino, then the police must question them. How else can Arizona control their border?

I don’t care what country one came from, if they are here illegally, they need to be deported…PERIOD!
The reason Mexicans become the main theme in this mess, is because they came here by the millions and expect us to change our laws for them! It’s their fault, they did this to themselves…
Just as it is the Mexican’s government for refusing to help their own people!
It’s disgusting that we have had so many Presidents that have allowed so many of our own citizens to be killed and raped, due to their pandering for votes!
It is also disgusting that the Mexican gov. continues to use US citizens as their personal bank!
Close the BORDER NOW…BACK OFF HOLDER!

Fernando, if the U.S. “demand” for drugs is responsible for illegal activity by Mexicans, then how is it that CANADA, our northern neighbor isn’t sending us lots and lots of drugs and experiencing drug violence like Mexico’s?
As for getting a visa to come here, that’s largely affected by a country’s track record in respecting our immigration laws. When a country has lots of people who overstay their visas to this country, then the State Dept. is tougher on issuing visas. And just why should it be easy to immigrate here? Our immigration policy should be for the good of AMERICANS, not every other country in the world, and having millions of unskilled, uneducated people immigrate here is NOT good for us.

By the way, Fernando, while the American SW may have at one time belonged to Mexico, MEXICO STOLE THEM FROM THE NATIVE AMERICANS. No moral high ground there.

Ha, ha, ha. I just read your comment about the trucker. IF HE SPOKE BETTER ENGLISH, then maybe he wouldn’t have being arrested? I would love to see you go to outside of the United states and get arrested because of your accent. Ha, ha, ha, you just proved what we’ve been saying. RACIAL PROFILING. ETHNIC CLEANSING. THANK YOU. I SAVED YOUR POST. I AM USING IT AS AN EXAMPLE WITH OUR PETITION. You are going to be read in every possible blog. That’s hilarious. Ha, ha, ha. Now I really got to go. Ciao. Ha,ha,ha.
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While your at it, how about including a mention of the illegal alien trucker who got a driver’s license illegally and caused a major accident in Illinois because he couldn’t understand enough English to understand that other drivers were warning him that the load on his truck had come loose. I believe he’s in prison now. Very funny.
Not speaking English is ONE part of a profile that may create reasonable suspicion that someone is here illegally IF someone has been stopped for non immigration violations of the law.

Arizona’s driver’s license or state ID are proof on the face of it of legal presence because the state verifies immigration status before issuing them. The REAL ID Act requires this of ALL states and those states that don’t comply will eventually find that their licenses are not accepted for entry to federal buildings or boarding airplanes. Arizona will also accept licenses from other states that follow the Real ID Act as proof of legal presence. No need to carry your birth certificate or passport unless you come from a state that DOESN’T have secure licenses. By the way, it’s already federal law, and has been for more than 50 years, that aliens to this country carry proof of their status, i.e. their green card. In the 1950s, they were even required to register with the federal government annually.

Miss me. Where would I get an idea like that? Funny, simply read the comments on this blog alone. That’s your answer. As far as the trucker. If you do the work you do, you should have heard about it. They even read about it in Venezuela!!! Imagine, as you said AND THE LAW IS NOT EVEN IN EFFECT YET. This country is build by intelligent citizens. Bigots and racists are the minority. THE LAW WILL NOT STAND.
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Bigots and racists ARE the minority and upwards of 60% of Americans SUPPORT this law. We’re tired of illegal aliens claiming “racism” in the enforcement of our laws. As someone recently said, should the police not have gone after the Mafia because most of its members were ITALIAN? The same thing applies to illegal aliens. Should we not identify and remove illegal aliens because many of them are HISPANIC? Frankly, Cayeyena, were it MY ethnic group that was breaking our immigration laws with such impunity (and a number of other laws along with them) then I’d be ashamed. That you’re not says worlds about why Americans shouldn’t legalize illegal aliens–they have no respect for the law and neither do many of their ethnic group. (And let’s get real, Cayayena–you’re not concerned with protecting Americans’ civil rights. You’re concerned with protecting illegal aliens from removal by using the pretense of protecting Americans, EVEN THOUGH THE CONTINUED PRESENCE OF ILLEGAL ALIENS VIOLATES OUR CIVIL RIGHTS. Illegal aliens bolster the population in states such as California which gives that state more representation in Congress while taking it from citizens in non illegal alien heavy states.)

“President Obama has spoken out against the law because he thinks that the federal government should be determining immigration policy,”
Federal immigration restrictions are LAW not policy. The president is charged with enforcing laws, even the one’s he doesn’t like. Obama doesn’t seem to understand that any more than Bush was.
Set policy all you want but enforce the LAW. If you don’t, someone else has to.

Only citizens that have an inch of character are angry over this law. Artist, musicians, cities and States are boycotting Arizona. Is it because they have ILLEGAL RELATIVES? My entire family (from grandparents to children) were and /or are AMERICAN BORN. I do however cherish my Puerto Rican culture, history and folklore. I was taught my ancestry as a little girl. At 52 I would fight for my country (The USA) but I will also rather die fighting bigotry and ignorance than to stand by the sideline ignoring it. Hell no. Jesus was not afraid to die in the cross for righteousness. Neither am I. I know there’s a few lunatics out there. Thankfully, you are THE MINORTIY in this great country of ours.
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Let’s see. As I recall, a number of those musicians have had run ins of their own with the law, such as Willie Nelson. And the cities and states boycotting this law are known sanctuaries for illegal aliens, and therefore breaking FEDERAL law which prohibits sanctuary cities.
Now, tell us what YOU’D do to enforce immigration law. You know, something that’s not “bigoted” or “racist”? For example, many of us (and the AZ law) want use of eVerify and SS no match letters to be mandatory for employers to use. After all, Social Security numbers have no race.
Of course, groups such as LaRaza, the SEIU, and the ACLU have sued to stop the use of these. After all, if one dries up jobs then illegal aliens have to leave, don’t they?

Arizona’s law is very similar to the Oklahoma law that has been in effect for a couple of years. Oklahoma has the largest concentration of Native Americans in the US. In case no one has noticed, a lot of us have dark skin.
I haven’t heard any of the tribes complain that their people are being harassed because of that particular law. No more than normal anyway. So the idea that cops are stopping everyone with dark skin is ludicrous at best.
Both states require that the police officer make contact for another reason before asking for identification. That’s all they’re doing, asking for identification. If the person can’t provide identification or produces fake identification the officer takes them into custody. Can’t they do that to everyone?
If I drive 95mph down I-40 today chances are that some cop will stop me, eventually. If I don’t produce and ID and I refuse to speak English I have a 99% chance of going to jail. I wouldn’t call it discrimination, I’d call it abusing my old pickup.

Cayayena wrote:”Rebellion is a grievous sin, since it is disobedience to God, and since it necessarily works such permanent physical ruin and social demoralization among our fellow-men.”
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No wonder so many Latin countries are such messes.

I am not in agreement with AZ because I do believe it is a potential magnet for profiling, however, I believe Gov. Brewer who took over and as been in office since Napolatano has left, she was determined to rid the drug cartels taking over park lands within the state, kidnappings, killings, jobs etc. She wants the national guard to clean that up, she doesn’t want the state to turn into a ghetto.

>>. He got arrested simply because HE LOOKED MEXICAN!
Posted by: Ali | Jun 23, 2010 9:28:15 AM<<
Ali,
I live about 1 mile from where the truck driver was stopped. ICE (federal officers – not AZ!) had set up a random check point. The driver you wrote about was detained – NOT arrested. He was a commercial truck driver, driving a commercial vehicle and the only ID he carried was a driver's license. He was required by Federal law to carry two forms of ID. He had one! His social security card was in his wife's purse and she was at work. She drove home and got his birth certificate.
There was no racial profiling involved in this case. ICE performs these random road blocks frequently. The truck driver was not charged although he could have been for failure to carry proper identification while driving a commercial vehicle.
ABC removes links to websites so I can't post the link to the story here. If you google for the Phoenix ABC website you can find the story there. It happened back in April. The driver was on the Gilbert 202. Be sure to look for the updated article with the comments from ICE explaining why he was detained.
Again, this was not racial profiling, it was not the color of skin. It was about a man who lacked the ID required by FEDERAL LAW!

The illegal immigrant population of the United States in 2008 was estimated by the Center for Immigration Studies to be about 11 million people, down from 12.5 million people in 2007.[2] According to a Pew Hispanic Center report, in 2005, 57% of illegal immigrants were from Mexico; 24% were from other Latin American countries, primarily from Central America;[3] 9% were from Asia; 6% were from Europe; and 4% were from the rest of the world.[3]——-SO how do you not go after the ILEGAL ALIEN MEXICAN/HISPANIC’S

I thought the President was supposed to protect the people of the United State of America, Not the People of Mexico, especially criminals.

Send the Department of Justice to
the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge
in southern Arizona. The Prosecutors
shall have no guns and be forced to spend
one week their. If still alive after said week
I am sure they will be sounding just like
a certain general. For all those unaware
of the Buenos Aires wildlife refuge,
let it be known that the wildlife is
not the problem.

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says The liberal LA Times is now reporting that Mexico’s drug wars are now north of the borders–but soto voce. Think about it. A man or woman killed in Iraq or Iran in the line of duty is a hero. But what is an American killed at home by an illegal alien because the government has failed in its sworn duty to guard the borders. This is a pact between the sovereign and the person has paid taxes and loyalty.

If the Federal govt interferes with the
Arizona law the governor should grant
pardons to all illegal alien prisioners in
Arizona prisons and jails and transport them to Washington D.C. and Los Angelas
for a better life.

Prettywitty, your crime stats are wrong. Phoenix is the kidnapping capital of the US, 2nd in the world!
If you don’t live in Arizona then you probably don’t know that the BLM (a federal agency) has installed caution signs at six national parks in AZ. I highly doubt these signs would be necessary if the crime rates were lower than the 1970′s.
The signs read:
DANGER – PUBLIC WARNING
TRAVEL NOT RECOMMENDED
Active Drug and Human Smuggling Areas
Visitors May Encounter Armed Criminals and Smuggling Vehicles Traveling At High Rates Of Speed
Stay Away From Trash, Clothing and Backpacks and Abandoned Vehicles
If You See Suspicious Activity, Do Not Confront! Move Away and Call 911
BLM Encourages Visitors To Use Public Lands North of Interstate 8
The Six National Parks / Monuments:
Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge (3500 acres closed)
Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument (60% of 330,689 acres closed)
Ironwood Forest National Monument
Sonoran Desert National Monument
Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge
Coronado National Forest
Gov Brewer stated that 1,000 illegals cross into AZ each day. Of those, 70-80% already have a criminal history.
The US Border Patrol Weekly Blotter, a newsletter informing of illegals detained and arrested, showed last week that 4 illegals were previously convicted of child rape or sex offense and deported. Yet here they were once again in AZ. Other illegals detained were gang members and drug runners.
And these were just the ones that were caught. Many more go unapprehended.

dogmeat, Stopping the evils of human trafficking and drug smuggling is not about politics and anyone with any sense of humanity understands that. Look 50 years down the road, and think about how you would answer these questions to your grandchildren, then you will understand why the Arizona law (and others like it) was needed:
1) Why did you not pressure your government leaders to do more to stop the Mexican drug cartels? How could you allow the violence and non-stop flow of drugs to get so out of control?
2) Why did you, and others, encourage impoverished Mexican citizens to pay their life savings to criminal human trafficking rings, who kidnapped, assaulted and raped them, and in some cases left them to die alone in the desert, in their journey to the US? How could you not care about those poor souls?
3) Why did you not do more to close the border so that these atrocities would not happen on American soil? Did Americans not learn from its history of slavery that human trafficking is wrong?
4) What did you do when the federal government was forced to close several historic parks on the border due to violence among drug smugglers and human traffickers?
5) What did you do about the environmental degradation caused to the cacti, trees and wildlife as human traffickers and drug smugglers trekked through and camped out on US park lands?
6) When you were confronted with statistics like these: Border Patrol apprehends about 200,000 illegal Mexican immigrants on the US border every year and 4 and 10 turned out to have convictions like child molestation, drug smuggling, etc., did you not care for the safety of your children or your community?
7) How many people should be allowed into the country every year without proper authority, fingerprinting, background checks? What should the cut off be? Does 200,000 illegal entries every year not seem significant enough?
8) Why do you think it is OK to turn around a boatload of Haitians and tell them they must come to the country legally even after an earthquake, but to say to the Mexican immigrants that they are above those laws … they are welcome. Is that not racist?
Examine your conscience, forget the stupid politics and think about how you will answer these questions when future generations ask why we allowed this to happen.

Re: “she [Brewer} was determined to rid the drug cartels taking over park lands within the state, kidnappings, killings, jobs etc. ”
Oh please. That’s not true. She needs to make AZ seem like it’s under seige to justify this racist bill. The reality is that Hispanics vote Democratic so she wants to drive them out of the state before they can vote her out of office.

“The reality is that Hispanics vote Democratic so she wants to drive them out of the state before they can vote her out of office. ” – freedom
? ? ? ?
Since when were illegal invaders allowed to vote?

Mexico is suing Arizona? What? However, Mexico considers the USA one of their states, they have been stealing from the USA for decades, drugs and cheap labor who funnel Billions back to Mexico and taking jobs, lowering the wages of US Citizens.
Now the Feds are suing Arizona. What the hell is going on here? Arizona has 500,000 Illegals not including the “anchor babies” in their state. We have 200,000 Illegals not including the “anchor babies” in our state. Since the Federal Government, for 30 years, looked the other way, allowing this mess to bulge to 20 million, the Feds better look the other way, when it comes to states addressing the failure of the Federal Government to do anything about this nightmare for 30 years.
The Arizona law was introduced, debated, passed and voted on by the citizens of Arizona to address a serious problem in their state that was caused by those responsible, for 30 years, who DID NOTHING about it. What the hell do you expect?
Suing them over a law to fix the parasites invading their state borders is dumb and should tick everyone in the other 49 states off.

You will rail on AZ for there Law and how harsh it is you like it when the Mexican puppet criticized AZ. but you know if you think Mexico is better lets just revise our policy to mimic Mexico’s Law. would that make you happy. would that salve the issue?
I can agree with that if you can. other wise shut your trap. you don’t want to know my plan to stop this invasion.
that is what it is and in some cases it is a violent armed invasion on unarmed US citizens.
if you don’t like it no-one is making you stay here.

This just blows me away……Obama has the nerve to sue Arizona? The US is under attack from mexico and Obama takes Mexico’s side? Time for impeachment procedings!!!!!
I voted for Obama and I am ashamed helping this traitor get into office.

Since the government is suing the state of Arizona, I believe Governor Brewer has the right to demand to see Obama’s qualifications to be President. I believe she has the right to demand he produce a birth certificate to prove his US citizenship.
Wonder if she will do it.