By Julie Percha

Jun 16, 2010 2:15pm

Thune: Obama has ‘Reached the Limits’ of Sway with Democrats; GOP May Want War Spending Paid For

ABC News’ Rick Klein reports: With legislative action slowed to a crawl in the Senate amid concerns over deficit spending, Democrats are beginning to balk at taking direction from the White House, a leading 2012 Republican contender said today. Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., said on ABC/Washington Post’s “Top Line” that Democrats are starting to buck the White House in joining Republicans, as they voice growing concerns about deficit spending. “There’s less and less of an appetite to do things now that are gonna involve spending money that’s not paid for — that’s not offset,” Thune told us. “So, you know, my view is that there are things that can get done, but there’re gonna have to be ways … to pay for it. And that’s kind of the difference of opinion we have about the legislation that’s on the floor of the Senate right now. “But my sense is, too, that the president has sort of reached the limits in terms of his ability to influence Democrats on Capitol Hill. I think congressional Democrats are concluding that their electoral prospects are very much in jeopardy if they continue to vote for and support spending that’s not paid for, and adding more and more to the federal debt.”

Thune also suggested that concerns over government spending could extend even to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, at least among Republicans. He said there’s a “growing consensus” inside the GOP that “supplemental” funding measures for military operations be brought inside the regular federal budget process. “I think that the problem, again, is all the other things that get added on to these war supplementals, and the fact that it’s not paid for. There are — Republicans are increasingly, I think, dug in on the issue of making sure that new spending is offset,” Thune said. Pressed on whether that means Republicans will insist that war funding will be paid for by cuts elsewhere in the budget, Thune said: “I don’t that that’s necessarily a consensus position, even among Republicans. Republicans in the past have viewed Iraq and Afghanistan and the war effort as something that truly is an emergency, although it’s hard to say now that we don’t know what these costs are gonna be….” “Frankly, I think that there is even a growing consensus among Republicans that we need to start budgeting for this, we need to start figuring out how to pay for it. And I think that’s kind of the majority view among Republicans now, but I wouldn’t say it’s a unanimous view. I think that the question of whether or not you have to pay for the Iraq and Afghanistan funding component of that overall supplemental bill that passed in the Senate is — that’s an open question.” Asked about his 2012 presidential prospects, Thune said: “At the moment, we aren’t anywhere on that. But we are focused on 2010. Haven’t you guys heard?” (Thune is up for reelection this year, though Democrats were unable to find a candidate to run against him.) Asked whether he’d wait as long as President Obama did in delivering his first Oval Office address, Thune responded: “I think that waiting this long — and it took a crisis to do that — the president, I think right now, is feeling a lot of pressure, obviously, politically. And his people thought they needed to get him out there, get him in front of the American public on this. But it probably should have happened a lot earlier.” We also got Thune’s reaction to the president’s push for comprehensive energy legislation, plus his own bill that would extend a series of tax cuts by enacting corresponding spending cuts. Watch the full interview with Sen. John Thune HERE. For our “Post Politics” segment, we chatted with Karen Tumulty of The Washington Post about Nevada GOP Senate candidate Sharron Angle’s trip through Washington, plus the fallout from the president’s address last night. Watch the discussion with Karen Tumulty HERE.

User Comments

Then they better reach into their piggy banks and pay for it as they are the ones who got us into these two wars. One was necessary…the other we were lied to and Bush’s feeling as he states in his book…is that we need a war for our economy. Are they saying he was wrong? He even said it again on t.v. He is not sorry he got us into a war…so as he was their president…they should come up with the money.

Posted by: talmag | June 16, 2010, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

Bush also said he would “waterboard” again. Imagine a president admiting to breaking the law….

Posted by: talmag | June 16, 2010, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

You mean they are going to cut off Obama’s outrageous spending? Imagine that.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | June 16, 2010, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Talmag I see you are taking the Pelosi lead and playing the blame game. Are we also to play the blame game on people like you for electing an incompetent president with the work ethic of a welfare recipient?

Posted by: Davis | June 16, 2010, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

I am saying that these wars were not Obama’s wars…they were the ideas of Bush/Cheney. Can you deny this? No. Why is is that Mr.Cheney who so likes to bash this president has remained so silent? What I am saying is that these wars were not paid for and that is much of the reason we are in this mess. This along with 8 yrs. of deregulations.

Posted by: talmag | June 16, 2010, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Transcribing word for word what Thune says is journalism? How about pointing out that the Republicans did not pay for wars when they were in control of congress. Can you at least perform the most minimum standards of journalism and point that out? Transcription may be easy, but it’s not journalism.

Posted by: Egan Foote | June 16, 2010, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

Apparently, Sen. Thune believes that only Democratic administrations should have to pay for war funding. Where was his voice of fiscal restraint during the Bush/Cheney years?

Posted by: B.Bear | June 16, 2010, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

Pressed on whether that means Republicans will insist that war funding will be paid for by cuts elsewhere in the budget…
Good question, but a far better one would have been “Did you Republicans suddenly develop this urge for fiscal responsibility on January 21, 2009 or was this something you talked about when a Republican President occupied the Oval Office?

Posted by: Rich Gardner | June 16, 2010, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

Mr. Klein, you hack. You quote Thune: “Frankly, I think that there is even a growing consensus among Republicans that we need to start budgeting for this, we need to start figuring out how to pay for it.” But you never, EVER, give the context of Republican war-mongering TIED TO A HUGE TAX CUT — an American first — that is the epitome of not paying for expenditures. You’re not a journalist. You’re a clown.

Posted by: number490 | June 16, 2010, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm

Look folks, this is a simple process. Democrats have NEVER had a backbone. They just don’t poessess the intestinal fortitude to “win.” Democrats are exactly like the old adage that…..”The decaged & degraded state of moral & patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is Willing to fight, nothing he cares about more than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free,
unless made & kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.” That is the EXACT definition of 99.9% of Democrats. Democrats will always be “kept” by the exertions of better people than themselves. I know it sounds terroible to label them as such; but, it is absolutely TRUE!

Posted by: Richard | June 17, 2010, 8:22 am 8:22 am

From a genuine nonpartisan who points out “junk,” no matter where it comes from. Thune should keep in mind that Republicans had no problem funding an unwarranted war and tax cuts that mostly benefited the wealthy. They only seem to worry about spending when it involves something that benefits the middle class.
Democrats not willing to fight and lacking backbone? What did you call it when some of them put their careers on the line to back a long-needed health care plan? They don’t scream, insult, and bully like some Republicans do, but I’ve never thought of screaming, insulting, and bullying as “backbone.”

Posted by: D. | June 17, 2010, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

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