Choi Discharged From Army National Guard
EmailABC News' Luis Martinez reports:
Lt. Dan Choi has been discharged from the Army National Guard. The Iraq war veteran became one of the most outspoken critics of the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy on homosexuals in the military after outing himself as a gay soldier on national television.
Choi told ABC News that his battalion commander called him Thursday morning to notify him of his honorable discharge under the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy.
In a statement he said, "After 11 years since beginning my journey at West Point and after 17 months of serving openly as an infantry officer this is both an infuriating and painful announcement."
Choi is fluent in Arabic and served a tour as an infantry platoon leader in Iraq.
The Army initiated proceedings to discharge Choi under the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy after a March, 2009 appearance on MSNBC’s “The Rachel Maddow Show” where he stated he was gay.
Since outing himself, he has become a vocal opponent of the law that bars the service of openly gay members of the military. He has been arrested twice this year for chaining himself to the White House fence to protest the law. Just Wednesday, federal prosecutors dropped the charges pending against Choi for those arrests.
Choi said he will continue to speak out against the law whose repeal is being considered by Congress. In May, the House of Representatives voted in favor of legislation to repeal the law, the full Senate has yet to vote on the measure.
“My service continues,” he said in his statement. “Remaining silent when our family and community members are fired or punished for who they truly are would be an unequivocal moral dereliction that tarnishes the honor of the uniform and insults the meaning of America."
“I don’t consider myself a victim,” he told ABC News.
“As sad as I am, I’m not a victim. My unit is a victim,” he said, arguing that Army units would be missing out not only on his skills as an Arabic interpreter, but the skills of other talented members of the military who are discharged under the policy.
The timing of Choi’s discharge was in dispute as spokesmen for the New York National Guard told ABC News that Choi was discharged at the end of June but that Choi had not returned various messages left on his cell phone since then to inform him of the discharge. They added that a registered letter informing him of the decision was received at his father’s home in California in early July.
Choi said he has not spoken with his father since October.
Choi told ABC News he was shocked to first hear from journalists earlier this week that he had been discharged, because he had not yet been officially notified. He said that official notification took place this morning when his battalion commander reached him by phone.
–Luis Martinez
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Wonder why the “fierce advocate” won’t do something about this. I guess Obama formed a commission.
Posted by: millie | July 22, 2010, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Well, obviously gay haters had a hand in this. I am sure the phones were off the hook with calls from viewers or those who got wind of the interview and insisted the “Don’t ask, don’t tell” policy be inforced.
Okay, let’s just send all straight people to fight in our wars, I wonder how long it will be before there are seven women (half of them lesbian) to every gay guy. If there’s a huge War at some point, all the gay people back home will probably support us for the duration, while they hold down the fort.
Then, when all the straight warriors return, they’ll get a massive Mardi Gras style, Welcome Home.
I mean, I guess I’m okay with that, but The guy knows Arabic, oh well, what’s talent? Being straight is more important when you’re facing the enemy.
Posted by: irma | July 22, 2010, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
hmm, fluent in Arabic huh? at what level?
Posted by: Lak | July 23, 2010, 1:23 am 1:23 am
So the message is: Skills don’t matter on the job. Your personal life is what determines your competence to serve. Someone with less skills will now fill his shoes. Yeah, I feel a whole lot better knowing that.
Posted by: DougPete | July 23, 2010, 2:21 am 2:21 am
umm…what about my rights? I’m heterosexual and I certainly wouldn’t want some homosexual (gay or bi) taking a shower with me and the other 98% heterosexual men in the showers every morning. Lets get real here… I’m not a hater but it’s just not practical to allow them to openly serve until they ensure the rights of 98% of the rest of the servicemembers…
Posted by: HonestAbe | July 23, 2010, 2:30 am 2:30 am
One other thing after hearing what the LT had to say on Rachel Maddow show just now….he said “no need to worry about the shower curtains…” This is extremely troubling. Some gay man does NOT have a right to see my naked nor does he have a right to see all the other men naked (afterall this is what he likes, naked men, he is sexually aroused and hetersexual men certainly don’t get a chance to see naked woman showering…) I don’t think we heterosexuals are worried about some gay guy touching us or coming on to us in the shower but some gay guy does NOT have a right to see us in that condition. I definately vote no on repealing the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy until they create a solid plan to address this most important issue.
Posted by: HonestAbe | July 23, 2010, 2:46 am 2:46 am
Well, ya either got something to be proud of in the shower, something to be okay about, or something to be embarrassed about.
I think we can tell which category Honest Abe is in! Wonder if he knows about Abe Lincoln’s gay past, give his nickname, lol!
Posted by: xoidy | July 23, 2010, 8:19 am 8:19 am
Xoidy: Lincoln’s gay past? How the H— do you know that? Some people will go to any length to say things about someone they don’t like i.e. the Sharrod case pontificated upon by Fox who quickly backed off it and blamed everyone else for their blunder. No apologies from any of them, O”Reilly, Hannity and other logheadsfrom early morning who said” Fox has an exclusive story about someone in the Obama Administration practicing racism. And, this was before she was fired as O”Reilly said this is not what the country should have…she should be fired. I say this to dispell all those who will say they did not do this. I witnessed it. As to this soldier Choi, he was taught respect and honesty in West POoint and yet was told to lie when he got in the service. A paradox to me. I feel for him and if this “don’t ask don’t tell goes away, he should be reinstated. He seems to have principles and integrity and we need more people in the service like him.
Posted by: talmag | July 23, 2010, 9:26 am 9:26 am
irma —- What part of “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” do you not understand? Not only did he tell, he did it on national television. What did you think was going to happen? He knew and it happened. Surprised?
Posted by: lfrichar | July 23, 2010, 9:29 am 9:29 am
Honest Abe: how about saving your butt in the war zone? I bet you won’t care about that. Soldiers have been getting along with this situation for a long time and have already dealt with it. It is the fringe people on the outside who cannot accept it. You could be surrounded by people who are gay and never know it. Most of them live normal lives and never bother anyone. How many times have you been approached? probably never. You make too much of something that should have been settled years ago…and the soldiers agree with this.
Posted by: talmag | July 23, 2010, 9:31 am 9:31 am
xoidy —– Heterosexuals have their privacy rights too. I didn’t see anything on your post that answered to Abe’s concerns. Probably because Abe is right!
Posted by: lfrichar | July 23, 2010, 9:31 am 9:31 am
“So the message is: Skills don’t matter on the job.” – DougPete
Wrong.
The message is he broke the Army’s rules so he got an honorable discharge.
Posted by: Noz | July 23, 2010, 9:43 am 9:43 am
“It is the fringe people on the outside who cannot accept it. ” – talmag
No not really.
The majority of the Heterosexual Men put up with it so they accept it in a way. The majority of them still don’t want to shower with homosexuals. I’m sure if they saw two guys kissing it would make their skin crawl as certain responses are written in DNA.
Nothing fringe about any of that.
Posted by: Noz | July 23, 2010, 9:48 am 9:48 am
“It is the fringe people on the outside who cannot accept it. ” – talmag—————You mean the VAST majority of heterosexuals that “tolerate” this behavior. The fringe here would be the 2% of gays. Choi was lucky to get n “Honorable” discharge, he broke the rules.
Posted by: lfrichar | July 23, 2010, 9:52 am 9:52 am
The US fails, again, on “human rights”, while it criticizes others, for such issues.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | July 23, 2010, 10:17 am 10:17 am
You are there to do a J.O.B….JOB..The military, unlike civilian sector in every aspect, is not your private “hook-up” bar…GET OVER IT….
Posted by: Parallex View | July 23, 2010, 10:57 am 10:57 am
It’s amazing that the level of ignorance of gay men and lesbians is still so prominent in our society. What is all this ridiculous chatter about men taking showers together? Do you seriously think that gay men in uniform don’t have just as much discipline to control their sexuality as straight men do? I’m sure the vast majority of straight men in the military don’t have the slightest perception of their gay combat colleagues based on shower behavior, because the vast majority of gay men in public service, whether it be in the armed forces or elsewhere, act professionally — far more professionally, I would argue, than the average straight man in public service.
Ignorant arguments such as this for attempting to retain an insidious, country-destructive policy such as Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell are based on fallacies and myths, pure and simple. Mr. Choi did what many others have had to do in the past to provoke change: an act of civil disobedience. And he’s right — he’s not the one being hurt mostly from this backwards act. His unit will be hurt most.
Posted by: Jim Brown | July 23, 2010, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Miltary is not civilian and Civilian is not the military….
Posted by: Parallex View | July 23, 2010, 11:08 am 11:08 am
Some historians have identified George Washington as gay. We likely have some “Founding Fathers” who were when you consider the probabilities. Get over it.
Posted by: jane | July 23, 2010, 11:17 am 11:17 am
“Do you seriously think that gay men in uniform don’t have just as much discipline to control their sexuality as straight men do?” – Jim Brown
Knowing my gay friends I’d say they have a little less discipline controlling their sexuality than my straight friends.
Regardless, if they somehow had the same level of discipline it would still be an issue. Guys don’t always think with the right head if you know what I mean.
: o )
Posted by: Noz | July 23, 2010, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Oh I understand the officer broke the rule “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.” It’s just a shame that the rule apparently applies to a gay persons entire exsistence. So he is not allowed to tell ANYONE, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME that he is gay. Also, wouldn’t having the heads up on the guy being gay, make straight guys take precautions during the showers everyone is so paranoid about? Also, when one of your own soldiers saves you during enemy fire; does their religion, race, gender or gender prefrence really matter? This is straight forward PREJUDICE. It’s not about rules, it’s about people wanting the enforcement of a prejudiced rule. The dumb rule needs to be dropped.
Posted by: irma | July 23, 2010, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Hey Jane,
Some heterosexual soldiers don’t want to shower with homosexuals.
Get over it.
Posted by: Noz | July 23, 2010, 11:35 am 11:35 am
GW…Gay???? Geeezzz LOL you can’t make this stuff up, unless of course it is a liberal making a point to boost their agenda… If true, who gives a BIG one..AGAIN, the military is not a Pick-up bar…just do your JOB…What you do at home is your business further…wait for it….don’t make it mine…
Posted by: Parallex View | July 23, 2010, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Most of these comments are unbelievably inane. You really believe that gay men aren’t able to control themselves in the shower? Get over it! There have been gays serving in the military for as long as it has existed. And as for straight men in the military having a higher level of sexual self control–maybe you should ask the numerous women who have been raped by fellow troops, not to mention all of the civilian women.
And DougPete,
He has an Arabic degree from West Point. Is that good enough for you?
Posted by: meg | July 23, 2010, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Actually Meg, it was I who was questioning his Arabic fluency. I also have a degree in Arabic. Doesn’t make me fluent. It is so fun to say though. “He was fluent in Arabic.” yadda yadda yadda. Those around gasp in amazement and awe…such ignorance
Posted by: Lak | July 23, 2010, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Is there really anything new to say about this? Why is it still a matter of dispute?
The individuals with whom I served were not potential sexual partners, whichever sex they were; they were teammates. I liked some of them, got along with some of them, tolerated some of them, and didn’t care much at all for some of them. But I served with, and met my obligations to, all of them just the same, because my personal feelings about them just didn’t matter. We had a mission to carry out, and I had a task to perform in support of that mission. My understanding was that they would also set aside personal considerations for the sake of the unit, the service, and the nation, just as they swore to do upon enlistment or commissioning. Anything less, on anyone’s part, is dishonorable and despicable.
Posted by: Dave | July 23, 2010, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
“Knowing my gay friends I’d say they have a little less discipline controlling their sexuality than my straight friends”
So your gay friends occasionally sleep with the opposite sex more often your straight friends sleep with the same gender?
Or are you just passing on the tired stereotype?
Funny how the hyper sexualization claim about gay men is similar to the claim against black men used to scare white people.
Posted by: Ryan C | July 23, 2010, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
“So your gay friends occasionally sleep with the opposite sex more often your straight friends sleep with the same gender? ” – RC Cola
Nope, you’re missing again.
My male gay friends have sex with other men more often and more casually than the straight men I know have sex with females.
Posted by: Noz | July 23, 2010, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Ifchiar: You mean the vast majority hate gay people? They are who they are and most of them have served in the service for years with no problems. Non gay guys know how to handle this situation and have been dealing with it for years with little problems. I have listened to some recently who feel this whole thing is being blown out of proportion. They don’t care if a guy is gay when he his covering him in a battle. If a gay guy gets aggressive…out he goes and he knows that and they know how to handle it…believe me.This guy is real and honest and yes, he should not have gone on t.v. and admitted his orientation but at some point he needed to be honest as he was taught at West Point and he felt dishonest. Hopefully, don’t ask don’t tell will be a thing of the past and everyone will just deal with it as they are now.
Posted by: talmag | July 23, 2010, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Argh….finally he’s out. Not a loss to the military. A gain for the right thing being done. Most “gays” who are in the military “aren’t”. They are online nobody’s fighting for a cause that they want to happen. Military members care that they don’t serve with gays and will always be that way…this is a situation where it is VERY OK to not have to change due to the world’s values changing about something.
Posted by: Rob | July 23, 2010, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
why cant we have husband (male) and wife (female) like the Bible says? I don’t think there is ONE so called homosexual who has been born outside of procreation between a man and a woman. Preserving this sacred institution is our ultimate civil, or should I say sacred right. Why can’t so called homosexuals embrace this worldview as something to truly fight for? You are a man or a woman? You have sexual desires and you desire to procreate, right? Make the right choice.
Posted by: will | July 23, 2010, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
“why cant we have husband (male) and wife (female) like the Bible says?”
Because we’re a nation based on personal freedom including religious freedom?
I realize the Christo-fascists would like their worldview to be enforced by the government but the founders set this country up differently.
Posted by: Ryan C | July 23, 2010, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
“address the real issue Ryan C…tell why some GAY MAN has a right to see me nude in a hot steamy shower?”
I was trying to address the real issue.
You apparently have fantasies dealing with exhibitionism.
“and I firmly believe I have a Contitutional Right as a HETEROSEXUAL man to NOT be gazed upon by some homosexual man in the shower while going though military training or in the barracks”
I thought right wingers contend that there is no right to privacy in the Constitution?
Posted by: Ryan C | July 23, 2010, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Oh, Abe…it sounds like you’ve spent A LOT of time thinking about gay men gazing upon your wet body in those steamy showers. Is that something that most straight men obsess over or is it just you?
It seems as though your parents instilled you with far too much self esteem. If you’re so unbelievably sexy, how can you even trust straight men to be in the same shower with you? Don’t you think you’ll just turn spontaneously gay?
The whole shower thing is beside the point because there are already gay men in the military–they just aren’t aloud to say that they are gay. The only difference is that, at the moment, you don’t know which ones are “gazing upon” you.
Posted by: meg | July 23, 2010, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
if bush was president now then ” ALL ” the gay activists would be following the democrats lead in BASHING BUSH but since OBAMA gay voters are in a ” love affair ” with OBAMA ……… all the democrats are silent…….all of them blaming bush for creating the war in the first place all the while the terrorists ARE TICKLED PINK AMERICAN’S ARE DIVIDED………PLOTTING THEIR NEXT ATTACK on us all with our commander in cheif…….a MORAL weakling / unable to lead / an entirely broken economy and / massive unemployment / vast numbers of cops being layed off in california……..we are all vulnerable to the criminals and the terrorists…….AND THEY KNOW IT…..who will be their next victim ? WHICH hard working , tax paying responsible american be the next target of our unprotected nation? …..ummmm..you think it will be a judeo – christian that doesn’t praise ellen and opra the way OBAMA DOES? …GEEEEEE..WHAT DO YA THINK ? EH ?
Posted by: mike | July 23, 2010, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
honestabe:
why do you feel so threatened by gay men in the shower? the military isn’t prison. do you actively look at other soldiers to see if they are aroused? i would assume ‘no’ as you’re “heterosexual”. so how would you know what they’re thinking?
it’s really not that serious, but war is. so lighten up a bit and take it as a compliment if some guy thinks you’re attractive.
Posted by: diddy | July 23, 2010, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
It’s not about the shower… it’s about military relationships… There is no power relationship like a military relationship… the superior makes law as he speaks…
Gays are as susceptible to temptation as any other… power corrupts…
Why put our brave young Americans in that position…
No one has a right to serve… many protected groups are denied the opportunity to serve…
It’s about mission accomplishment… will a military unit be more mission able with gays serving openly???
Military leadership has enough to do do without the soap opera gays serving openly will add to the mix…
Of course it will be a great success… military people are not allowed to tell the truth when it comes to politically correct…
Posted by: Quo Warranto? | July 23, 2010, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
It’s not about the shower, it is about the power…
In the military you cannot just walk away when you become uncomfortable. You are compelled to go and do where and what you are told… Sure, if a superior’s behavior exceeds certain limits… you can try to resist… but what is that point? Why do we want to put our brave young Americans in a position to have to determine that…?
Posted by: Quo Warranto? | July 24, 2010, 1:45 am 1:45 am
Opps! I guess it’s true, you can’t fix stupid.
Posted by: Ruler4You | July 24, 2010, 4:57 am 4:57 am
Gays should be happy that they are left alon to live, they diserve to be hanged for crimes against Nature
Posted by: baba | July 24, 2010, 6:26 am 6:26 am
Being fluent in Arabic, and being proficient in Arabic are 2 different things. He’s probably fluent at the basic level of proficiency, which allows him to introduce himself and ask where the library is. I bet he doesn’t even know the word for homosexual in Arabic. So ironic…
Posted by: US Army Officer | July 24, 2010, 9:17 am 9:17 am
the most important thing to realize about homosexuality is that their is no gay gene. The bible speaks of homosexuality specifically because they know it’s a direction that mankind could take on. Homosexuality is a perversion. The idea of allowing an officer (lieutenant) to serve ‘openly’ in the military is just paving the way for further perversion and self destruction of our own state. Homosexuals have traditionally been evil and they go against our very nature that we were created to be. It’s important that we recognize homosexuality as a state of mind. We know perfectly well that regular people make serious relationships with partners and that if they had to bang every single girl that walked by this would be irresponsible. Homosexuality takes the irresponsibility to a higher level it affects responsible judgement by the lieutenant and would girl up the squad as they have to take orders from this guy Choi. Besides if he cannot be counted on to keep a simple protocol of don’t ask don’t tell, how could he possibly be trusted on more serious issues?
Posted by: Steve | July 24, 2010, 10:12 am 10:12 am
woulnt it be nice if the Sara Pailin of the anti government teabag group got off her horse and ran for dog catcher a job she is properly trained for.
shed never make it as a Tina Faye copycat, (off topic well the topic is off color guy)
three wrongs still dont turn out right it s not like driving around the block with a left signal on.
The 700 club had thier dont ask dont tell crew Starting with Jim Bakker and is rainbow faced x wife. its still not an excuse for his open gay bashing while secretly living that lifestyle, Dont ask dont tell breeds contempt from suspissions wright ir wrong.
If you know poison is there ya dodge it if you dont you may play with it innocently or intensionally till you follow it too. its hard to honestly say what YOUR inclinations are weak willed strong willed strong ego or a wimp.
If you know you have no question or need to susopect when a guy has an itch it is not obvious that he wants you as a sexual partner he just needed to scratch and releave tension no sex involved.
its the Potential that causes worry stored up Mabe..but mabe Not you dont know so you can guess but not tell
Posted by: hhandyman | July 24, 2010, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
I would have been denied entry into the Navy because I had childhood asthma. If only I were “born” gay.
Posted by: The1 | July 24, 2010, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Choi quit the Army in 2008. He joined the NY National Guard in 2009 with the intention of making a big deal out of DADT and trying to become famous.
He didn’t accomplish either.
Expect another hunger strike soon. Choi’s last hunger strike lasted less than a week. He stopped because nobody was covering it.
I read on another Blog he has been hired as an activist for $95,000 a year.
Posted by: Guardsman | July 24, 2010, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
This issue is just drop your soap silly.
DADT works, leave it alone.
Posted by: Noz | July 24, 2010, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
i’m a repented homosexual oriented male. I believe god loves me but hates if i were to act out physically in a same sex manner . Thier our millions of men and woman same sex christians like myself.
We all support moral conservatism . It is people like me whom our liberal government detests……We won’t vote for them.
Let’s PRAY FOR OUR LOST BROTHERS AND SISTERS who are under the spell of a pro-gay , pro-abortion obama / hillary administration. Hillary doesn’t care if we go to hell…..she has given herself to hell already………I care however…..let us pray for gods protection for our beloved brother and sisters who are lost in the gay lifestyle…….remember…… the tortures of hell are INCOMPREHENSIBLE / INDESCRIBABLE AND FOREVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR…….
OBAMA / HILLARY COULDN’T CARE LESS IF HER OWN DAUGHTER GOES TO HELL….COULDN’T CARE LESS IF ALL OUR USA MILITARY SECRETS ARE GIVEN TO RUSSIA……..getting and staying in power is more important to them then the loss of their children or their eternal souls……..this is the type of people america has voted for…..we are all deserving of gods wrath and punishments…………hillary however will be on a tropical island paradise enjoting the sunshine and trying to appear PRESIDENTIAL as america gets chatised ……
Posted by: mike | July 25, 2010, 10:53 am 10:53 am
What is the big deal about being gay and serving in the military, if the person is professional and does not make any kind of unwanted sexual advances towards any of his buddies i see no problem why this should be an issue. If you were in a situation where only a gay person could save your life would you refuse such assistantce? i bet you wouldnt.
Posted by: Darius Martinez | July 25, 2010, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
IT’S NOT THAT YOU’RE GAY! If your life evolves around and is defined by your sexual behavior, then you don’t need to have a Government Job, especially with children, period!
Interesting they’re showing a picture of the reporter, but not the Troublemaker who doesn’t look like White America. Hmm, is ThayBC news a bit racially insensitive?
Posted by: Savage Nation | July 25, 2010, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
“why do HOMOSEXUALS have a right to take showers with other nude hot wet men?” – HonestAbe
They don’t have any right to that in the military.
It should stay that way.
End of story.
Issue Closed.
Posted by: Noz | July 25, 2010, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Ha! All this stupid concern about taking a shower where a gay men might look at you. Laughable! If you shower at the gym, you are likely to undress in front of a gay man. Men that are secure in their masculinity don’t worry about such stuff. Men that have… uh, issues, do.
Posted by: DaveM | July 26, 2010, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
First of all I think it’s a disgrace how Obama didn’t settle this with an Executive Order like Truman used to integrate Blacks in the miltary.Second I bet if Ben Laden and friends were asked if they wanted Gays in their forces,that they would make the same kind of ignorant and bigoted comments that the right wingers are making here and elsewhere.
Posted by: Paen | July 26, 2010, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
And yes, at this time, this also means if you’re honest about your homosexuality you won’t be able to serve and you will be discharged…until they build new facilities for you to take showers in or come up with a plan to address this fundamental basic human rights issue.
Posted by: HonestAbe | July 26, 2010, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
I’ll shower with Lt. Choi when you agree to have your daughter shower with my two sons.
Posted by: Scott | July 27, 2010, 10:52 am 10:52 am
I won’t express my views on the homosexuality part of this, but I am wondering why an 11 year guard veteran coming out of West Point is only an LT? Was he demoted before being discharged or what? As a guard soldier myself I have never seen anyone spend more than 3 to 4 years tops as an LT. Plus I was under the impression that West Point only commissioned active duty, which if Im correct means he had more than 11 total years. This does not make any sense in a rank standpoint.
Posted by: Jake | August 3, 2010, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Ok, I did a little digging and his active and guard duty totals 11 years, which clears up that part. However, he graduated from West Point in 2003, that still makes seven years service as an officer and he’s still an LT. Not that anyone really cares, but im just making an observation.
Posted by: Jake | August 3, 2010, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm