Must-See TV: Rep. Weiner Gone Wild On House Floor

Very entertaining watching the fireworks but the story failed to mention that it was the Democrats who presented the bill in such a way that it required a two-third (2/3) majority to pass. Weiner had the votes (and then some) under a simple majority vote. He and his democrits did not want and “up or down” vote that might have resulted in amendments being tacked on.

Sound and fury signifying NOTHING!

Amen

Weiner better be carefull or they may just bring that goat back that kicked his butt a few months ago.

Really Norman? Are you so loyal to your party that you’d push aside 9/11 first responders. What procedure could be so incorrect to delay benefits for American heroes?
Instead let’s throw insults at the opposing party.
I’d love to know everyone’s response to a bill without knowing their party’s popular opinion. Maybe they’d stick up for what’s right over what’s desirable for the party.

The point of not having ammendments was because there shouldn’t be any special interests on this bill. Either you support the first responder heroes of 9/11 getting health care or you don’t. The republicans don’t unless they can “add” something to it. Such hypocrisy! Here they CRY about the masque near Ground Zero, but they don’t support the first responders getting health care. Once again, the GOP show their spots.

And without amendments the Republicans say HELL NO!!!!! to first responders health concerns. Your point? Land of the Free, home of the ill and dying first responders? That’s OUR America!
Hip, hip, hooray!!

I applaud this mans courage for speaking out. I feel that he speaks for all Americans who are fed up with Republicans voting “No” on every bill that would help the average American, but never met a tax break for the rich and special interests that they couldn’t not vote “Yes” to.
He’s mad as hell and he’s tired of taking it! And I don’t blame him. This bill is for the first responders of 911, that 9 years later are still suffering and dying, and going broke because the government has failed to provide the necessary aid and medical care for them.
Its a travesty and the Republicans ought to be ashamed! But I guess you don’t need shame when you’ve got all those rich and powerful friends, now do you?
Shame on the Republican party and anyone who dares support and defend them on their outrageous stalling tactics in congress.
And shame on all of you idiots who call yourselves republicans! You’re a bunch of simple minded morons who only believe what you hear on Fox. Never mind that there are multiple other news networks and the majority of them don’t report anything close to the absurdity of the crap they air on that B.S. Fox network.
Shame on you all!

wkoper writes:
“And without amendments the Republicans say HELL NO!!!!! to first responders health concerns. Your point?”
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Perhaps I should call in my friend “math101″ to help you understand that the Dems could have easily passed the vote with a simple majority AND prevented any and all republican amendments…..they chose not to and instead procedurally postured the bill to require a 2/3 majority in order for it to pass. Why??? Because they were worried about amendments and “add ons” [can you say pork] from DEMOCRITS.
Here’s a bright idea……why don’t the democrits just “deem the bill passed”?
Perhaps democrit weiner would like a little cheese with his whine.

The only whiners here are the Republicans who are committed to be the absolute party of “NO”. “No” to anything that would be good for Main Street America. Repubs have a problem giving the unemployed support but don’t have a problem fighting to keep the Bush tax cuts for the 3% greedy, wealthy of our nation. They had a real problem with providing health care for all Americans but would kill to keep the golden, bloated benefit packages that allow them ‘Cadillac’ health care….at taxpayers expense. We know by now who the real whiners are the absolute party of “NO”….the Republicans.

Tom is right on the procedure. King was right to say the Dems are in control. Therefore puzzling to understand why Weiner was upset. Dems made the 2/3 rule on this bill, why? What else is buried in the bill? As with Stimulus and health care, lots of Trojan Horses. Why can’t Congress just pass a clean bill that does what its title says. It’s like passing the “Stop Wifebeating” bill and then castigating the NO voters who object to the inclusion of other measures in the bill like mandatory castration, stoning, confiscation of assets.

To ‘Batman’ -
It’s about time the GOP grew a pair and stopped trying to ‘reach across the aisle’ to the Democrat vipers.
From now on they should wrap themselves proudly in the “Party of No” that the Democrat talking point memo wants to tar them with. It is a badge of honor. And I will add three more things:
Re-move every senator, congressman, governor and elected official who ignores the will of the majority.
Re-ject funding of every incremental dime that takes away the rights of the majority to ‘get even’ with them on behalf of the minority.
Re-peal – most important. Repeal it all and start over.

The fact is that for all the talk about supporting 9/11 Responders we all know where GOPers stand.

Joel, when the Bush tax cuts lapse, the lowest marginal rate will jump from 10% to 15%. Do you think that will hit the “wealthy” only? Who hires people and creates jobs?? Small businesses. 95% of all jobs are created by small business and most of those are sole proprietorships or sub-s corporations where the taxes are paid on their personal return. You think those jobs are going to come from the keynesian stimulus of the obama spending. Did you see him on the View yesterday??? He claimed that his stimulus package created 600,000 jobs. What he failed to tell you was that he had spent FIVE HUNDRED BILLION of the stimulus so far. Do the math Joel….that is $833,333.33 spent per job created so far (and more spending is coming).
With regard to the bill that weiner could not get passed, do you know who one of the co-sponsors was?? Republican Peter King of New York. Why did the democrits sponsor it so that it required a 2/3 majority to pass when they had plenty of votes to pass it by a simple majority? Have you read the bill? Why not allow amendments by other democrits if there are questionable provisions in the law? Just because they say it is a bill to “help first responders” does not mean the language in the bill is pure and pristine (see Timothy’s post above).

Timothy: Which 70%? You mean 70% of the tea party GOP in disguise?
We all know that the health care bill is getter more popular as more people know about the actual changes and how they are totally different from the GOP lies about the health bill.

Wouldn’t cal it ‘wild’ but would call it Reality Calling Out those who keep making their failed non-ideologies Political!!

The first responders should get health care benefits period. Doesn’t matter which “party” you belong to. Bravo young politician!

I will be letting people on facebook and email
know that this 9/11 first responder’s bill was voted down. I encourage all of the ground zero workers to vote and the Republicans can explain all they want to these heroes on why they voted no. These heroes don’t want Republican excuses on voting. I would love to see one of the Repub legislators explain their vote face to face to a ground zero worker.

In addition to the 9/11 Responders bill, yesterday the GOP also voted down the Jobs Bill that would have given loans to small businesses through smaller banks.
In the same breath they complain that President Obama’s administration is not helping small busineses. The GOP must think that people are stupid.

stormerF2: What immigration was added into which bill? Good attempt at diversion. Please try again.

I don’t understand what Republicans are talking about…they are saying tax cuts to the wealthy would help job creation people need to remember that that the Bush tax cuts are already in place right now…today…the month of July…and no job creation or the deficit hasn’t been paid down….

Should more Republicans have voted for this bill? I don’t know I do not know the details or their rationale. But what we do know is that if the democrats wanted it to pass it would have, i.e. health care, the stimulus and the bail out of GM and Chrysler. It was more important for them to have an issue for the upcoming election than to get this bill past. And as for the poster “just saying” keep the Bush tax cuts for the 3% greedy, wealthy of our nation. First off the Bush cut taxes for everyone who paid taxes. If you pay more taxes you got more money back because every one got the same percentage. Second the rich pay the majority of taxes in this country. Third and last, letting the Bush tax cut expire will hit small business owners the hardest and since they do the majority of the hiring it will affect the economy negatively

small business are already hurting with the bush tax cuts for the wealthy….people are delusional…the bush tax cuts aren’t for the average american…unless you are making a quarter of a million a year.. the republicans are talking out two sides of their mouth…the bush tax cuts are already in place because it helps with ‘job creation’ but then whine about the economy and the deficit being so bad and shoots down every bill that the dems brings forth that are helping the average american?

Ok, let’s look at a hypothetical- Let’s say the Dems had not changed the procedure to mandate more votes for passage. Does that mean the Repubs would have voted “Yes?” Hmmm? As Mr. Weiner stated- if you believe in it, vote “yes,” if you don’t, vote “no.”
Back to reality- the Repubs voted no to the bill as it stands- as a bill that provides healthcare to 9/11 First Responders. So, the bottom line is that the Repubs voted no to helping these true American Heroes, who seriously need congress’ help now, because there was nothing in it for them! Hmmmm. Seems par for the course, doesn’t it? Truly sad!
Anthony Weiner, who, as New Yorkers know, is a consistently fierce and passionate advocate for his constituents. Kudos for exposing the BS that goes on in the chambers and calling the Repubs on the carpet for their hypocrisy and political games.

Wow. All these comments hating on Weiner for standing up for sick 9/11 workers? It disgusts me that our politics have devolved into such filth. This should be a no brainer. Those people did a noble and selfless service for their country and deserve to have their health care covered. Period. This isn’t a political thing. Weiner is correct. It’s wether or not it’s a moral and correct thing to do. Sadly, politicians (especially Republicans) no longer care about what’s in the interest of the people. Only what they think helps them hold power. Truly sad they don’t care who will suffer and die. Only about procedure and power. Pathetic.

Ann Geary – Yeah your president feels for us – he is worth over 7 million dollars. Your congress is the worst in history – you have had it since 2006 and do not need one vote from any Repblican – so how can you justify anything negative about the Republicans???? Remember it was the DemocRATS that ignored President Bush when he warned that Freddie Mac would hurt this country with ninja loans. So how is the house I paid for you????

…until the shoe is on the OTHER foot come this November. Then the story from this “gentleman” will change.
SURPRISE!!

It was wonderful to see him stand up to the rightwing thugs. It makes me proud to be an American to have someone like Andrew expose the lies of the Right Wing.

QUESTION – Didn’t congress just pass a mega health care bill that should cover these guys for every illness they have? If not – what good is that big health bill if we have to pass a different one to take care of these guys? hun?

That was one of the worst fake rant I have ever seen. Weener set it up to fail so he could throw his silly tantrum.

That’s just unbelievable!!!! they didn’t want to pass the bill because they wanted to add an immigration and abortion amendment? I know that if I’m in a burning building and these mega buildings are collapsing around me…I know I wouldn’t give a hoot and stop and ask what country are you from???and are you pro life or pro choice????!!!!! People in this country better wake up and vote in November…especially respondents!!! It’s just the fact the Republicans said NO (AGAIN)!!! no matter who is trying to make who look bad…it’s just the fact the right wing said NO!!!

I’m really glad this got major news coverage and talk around the world. I would love to see Obama be more adamant about the immediate need to right this wrong when it comes to tragic circumstances such as these. He’s such a first class, cool and collected gentleman that is always ready to handle the most difficult of situations. But seeing some more passion in his politics wouldn’t hurt at all especially when it exposes how amoral and immoral the republican politicians are at every turn. For a group that portrayed themselves as and stood on the foundations of Evangelicals and the Moral Majority, there is very little moral in any decisions they’ve been making since 2004. Their moral concerns only appear when convenient- after they’ve first propagated lies and during election years; in other words as soon as they open their mouths. America needs strong, moral leaders like Weiner. So I hope when God finishes using Obama to make the country great again, He’ll turn right back around in 2016 and give us Weiner for our next American president. After the Bush fiasco, we can never again afford to have a republican president! He nearly destroyed this country economically. It’s taking miracles just to have the successes we’re experiencing under Obama now. How anyone in their right mind would think America would fall for another republican drain on the country is just incredible and ridiculous.

It’s such mess up in Congress: without adding porks you can pass nothing. Some rules in Congress just don’t make sense, why can they just pass a single issue bill (without any amendment) with a single majority?

Anthony Weiner was EXACTLY right in what he said. I wish that more Democratic politicians had the “guts” and common sense he possesses. Kudos to you Mr. Weiner for “calling out” that hypocrite Peter King and the “Party of NO and DIVISIVENESS”. Now…if we could just get the “dumbed down electorate” to pay attention to what is going on politically beyond and below the “soundbites” – espeially of the right wing elite.

It’s about time someone got angry about the obstructionists. I think more democrats should stand up for what they believe. This has been 20 months of obstruction and for a party to deny those who were volunteers at 9/11 and who are suffering with all kinds of illness pertinent to this tragedy I can’t accept or understand this. This is not about getting the president..this is a bill which will not affect the deficit but the party of No who were not fiscal specialists when they were in charge are now acting like saints who really care about the deficit. It is your party who has put this burden on your children because this deficit is what is left from the Bush tax cuts which added no jobs and did add to the deficit by 2.5 trillion and we are now having to suffer for it. Now they are trying to act like they knew nothing about it and that the party in power now is to blame. This deficit came with the recession which started in 2007 and you all refused to do anything about it. I bet if Obama wanted to give banks a break the republicans would be all over it. Talk about priorities….they have none or the little guy only the rich.

These people with the stupid and ignorant comments against Weiner are the same people who got this country in the trouble it’s in.The republicans are only in favor of enriching themselves ,the banks and corporations and the rich . They could care less about the 9/11 firefighters health or the health of the American people. Normal people with average intelligence can see that very clearly. The dummies don’t have that capacity.Weiner told the truth and the dummies can’t see it. voting against their own interest. Putting the whole country in jeopardy. A disgrace.