Obama: Sherrod ‘Deserves Better’ for ‘Bogus Controversy’
From Sunlen Miller and Yunji de Nies
President Obama used the "reaction and overreaction" to the "bogus controversy" around Shirley Sherrod as an example that the nation’s "still got work to do when it comes to promoting the values, the fairness and equality."
Speaking before the National Urban League 100th Anniversary Convention in Washington, D.C today Mr. Obama said that former USDA staffer Shirley Sherrod “deserves better” than what happened last week and blamed both the media and his administration.
“She deserves better than what happened last week when a bogus controversy based on selective and deceiving excerpts of a speech led her — led to her forced resignation. Many are to blame, for the reaction and overreaction that followed these comments, including my own administration. “
The president recalled the phone conversation the two had last Thursday and said the full story about overcoming biases is one that needs to be told in America.
“It’s exactly what we need to hear, because we've all got our biases. And rather than jump to conclusions and point fingers and play some of the games that are played on cable TV, we should all look inward and try to examine what's in our own hearts.”
In the wake of the controversy last week – which the administration dubbed a “teachable moment” many have called on the president to lead a national conversation on race.
Today, the president said that a truthful, mature and responsible discussion needs to take place about the discrimination and prejudices that still exist in our society. But he said that is a conversation to be led around kitchen tables across America, and not necessarily from a presidential podium.
“A a discussion that needs to take place not on cable TV, not just through a bunch of academic symposia or fancy commissions or panels — not through political posturing — but around kitchen tables and water coolers and church basements and in our schools and with our kids, all across the country.”
-Sunlen Miller and Yunji de Nies
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LMAO… listen to this blamer in chief talk, HE is the one that needs race relations seminars.. This racebaiting, racist FIRED her before he even knew the story and the NAACP was SITTING on the whole story all along, while condeming her….just a bunch of left wing radical extremist.. bent on destroying and dividing races in the US
OBAMA VERSES AMERICA
Posted by: Yep I said that | July 29, 2010, 11:56 am 11:56 am
I agree with everything he said except one. There were only two parties who could have fired her, not Fox news, not Breitbart, not the NAACP, only the USDA and his administration. So its intellectually dishonest to say that many are to blame. There simply was no need to for the administration or Vilsack to force her resignation without all the facts. Spreading the blame may deflect criticism from him, but it should be clear that no one else could fire her.
Posted by: J | July 29, 2010, 11:57 am 11:57 am
A “teachable moment” with the teacher ABSENT and playing Division politics
Obama VS America
Posted by: Yep I said that | July 29, 2010, 11:59 am 11:59 am
So its intellectually dishonest to say that many are to blame
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Apparently, the woman who was “sherroded” feels differently as says she will sue the “conservative” blogger (smear merchant). Meanwhile, Vilsack and President Obama called Sherrod and apologized both privately and publicly.
The others? The “conservative” smear merchants. They’re still smearing… its their “thing”, the thing they know how to do and enjoy.
I think its intellectually dishonest to protect the scum mongerers and try to pin it solely on those who acted too hastily, and then admitted such and apologized.
Posted by: dawn_marie | July 29, 2010, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Listen and watch the full tape and you will hear what a Black Racist Shirley Sherrod really is. She states that if you disagree with Obama, then you are racist because he is black. How stuppid is that? Plus watch the nodding and clapping of the NAACP audience when Shirley Sherood mentions treating the white farmer bad because he was white. Obama is stupid to defend her.
Posted by: Tom Meyers | July 29, 2010, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
According to Chris Wallace on Sunday morning, Foxnews has not reported any news about Shirley Sherrod before the news that she was forced to resign by the government. What happened was that in the Bill O’relly show, the Sherrod tape was shown first, followed by his suggestion that sherrod should resign as well as the News that Sherrod had actually resigned. It is likely that Fox News received the news of Sherrod’s resignation came to Fox News way before O’relly showing the Sherrod tape on TV, as Chris Wallace said.
Posted by: austin | July 29, 2010, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
austin, they had it posted on the fox website almost as soon as breitbart finished editing it
Posted by: Flash Override | July 29, 2010, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Somebody get Barry a fiddle.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | July 29, 2010, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
“In the wake of the controversy last week – which the administration dubbed a “teachable moment” many have called on the president to lead a national conversation on race.”
Indeed. And what did that moment teach Miss Sherrod, well let’s let her speak for herself, via CNN about Mr. Andrew Breitbart:
“I know I’ve gotten past black versus white. He’s probably the person who’s never gotten past it and never attempted to get past it. I think he would like to get us stuck back in the times of slavery. That’s where I think he would like to see all black people end up again.”
Yeah, that’s the discussion we should be having. This woman is not a poster child for race relations in America. No matter what she said in that speech.
Posted by: J.R. | July 29, 2010, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
The teachable moment came a long time ago.The electorate screwed the pooch when they elected this guy and they will correct their mistake.
Posted by: bobmac | July 29, 2010, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
What Vilsack and the White House have said is contradicted by what Shirley Sherrod has said.
Vilsack said that HE ousted her and that it was because of what he saw at Fox News website.
Sherrod said that the White House forced her to resign and that she was called 3 times over this affair and that when called by the USDA’s Cheryl Cook, Sherrod said that Cook told her that she needed to pull over and resign because she was going to be on Glenn Beck’s show later that day (Beck was supposed to air a pseech that she gave to the NAACP, yet didn’t). Beck actually defended her later on down the road and said that her ouster was unjustifiable, regardless of her political views.
Vilsack has said one thing, and it is contradicted by what Sherrod has said.
Sherrod also contradicts the White House. The White House says that they were “snookered” by Fox News.
Problem is, is that Beck airs at 5 PM.
Fox News had a story put on their website about her entitled “Video Shows USDA Official Saying She Didn’t Give Full Force of Help To White Farmer” at 5:58 PM. Sherrods resignation was announced an hour latr. Politico reported on this.
Sherrod was apparently canned sometime before Beck aired, and she said that it was because of BECK, not Fox News website, so the White House was not “snookered” by Fox News. As well, the NAACP had the full video of Sherrod’s speech at their disposal to listen to, so how were they and the White House “snookered” by Fox News?
The White House threw Sherrod under the bus, yet Obama and the media are trying to spin this to Fox News in an attempt to direct attention away from how the White House handled this whole sordid affair.
Posted by: Ray | July 29, 2010, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Why the silence about Breitbarts past operations? Like the ACORN tapes. Those weren’t slightly misleading, they were totally fabricated.
Posted by: Flash Override | July 29, 2010, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
“Why the silence about Breitbarts past operations? Like the ACORN tapes. Those weren’t slightly misleading, they were totally fabricated. ”
Huh? Explain totally fabricated because I don’t think you actually know what it means.
And this tape showed exactly what Breitbart wanted it to show, the NAACP members cheering a story about treating a white farmer differently because he was white. There was nothing fabricated about it.
Posted by: J.R. | July 29, 2010, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
“President Obama used the “reaction and overreaction” to the “bogus controversy” around Shirley Sherrod as an example that the nation’s “still got work to do when it comes to promoting the values, the fairness and equality.”"
The only controversy was the overreaction and rush to judgment of his administration. And now that she is indicating her desire to sue Breitbart, I believe Obama will want to drop her as an example of promoting values and fairness and all that other pitiful rhetoric he likes to use.
Posted by: J.R. | July 29, 2010, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
The President says that Ms. Sherrod’s full story about overcoming bias is one that needs to be told in American. In his next statement, he pulls himself out of the discussion and talks about how it needs to be discussed around kitchens, water coolers and basements. That is a cop out. The President has often said that race is an issue to important to ignore– but it seems like that is exactly what he is doing by basically telling us: “talk amongst yourselves.” Nobody wants commissions, panels or academic papers, we just want the President to talk openly and candidly about the issue. To discuss important but sensitive issues is not political posturing– refusing to participate in the conversation is.
Posted by: Virtus2021 | July 29, 2010, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
You want to talk about “bogus”? How about a Press Event at the White House about extending unemployment benefits as happened on July 19:the woman held up by Obama as an example WAS FIRED FROM HER JOB AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF PRESCRIPTON DRUG FRAUD!She shouldn’t have been eligible for any benefits! This is in the Charlottsville news media.And Obama is such a smart guy.
Posted by: Nephron | July 29, 2010, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
“[....]NAACP members cheering a story about treating a white farmer differently because he was white. There was nothing fabricated about it.”
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Except it didn’t show that, and its only Breitbarts’ followers who are spreading the misinformation, continuing on a heartless and dishonest path, and making themselves part of the problem. Watch the tape, the whole tape and then think about the thoughts at “Breitbart lied about Shirley Sherrod. Now he’s lying about the NAACP, by William Saletan”.
A single staccato noise is not clapping.
I also disagree with you when it comes to fighting back against smear artists. The problem is a “conservative” movement that continues to celebrate Breitbart and Fox News despite their history of fabrication and inaccuracy and race-baiting (h/t Yglesias who gets that right.) People who are smeared by these unethical jerks ought to fight back, and fight back hard and tough. Its the only way to handle bullies.
That you would defend Breitbart at every opportunity, even when it comes to the ACORN tapes, and claim the “only” problem was the rush to force a resignation followed by private and public apologies and a job offer says quite a lot about your ethics and sense of right and wrong, or lack thereof.
In the end, that’s your problem and not anyone else’s unless you make it our problem, too. For now, what is important is pointing out why right wingers have so little credibility.
Posted by: Cara | July 29, 2010, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
“[...]yet Obama and the media are trying to spin this to Fox News in an attempt to direct attention away from how the White House handled this whole sordid affair.”
Funny thing about this Fox News you believe in: they’ve now admitted a “breakdown.” That’s right. Before admitting a “breakdown,”they aggressively denied prematurely covering Sherrod story, and you believed them. Again.
They have a history of inaccuracy and outright fabrication as well as race-baiting– and they love their smear merchants. Its not like they haven’t spread around Breitbart’s misinformation, race-baiting and lies before.
Posted by: Cara | July 29, 2010, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Cara, you obviously have not read Breitbart’s original post about this video and what he was attempting to show. It’s also obvious that instead of doing some independent thinking on this incident, you have bought into the talking points the left is using to try and make this about Fox and Breitbart instead of about the NAACP and the Obama administration.
Posted by: J.R. | July 29, 2010, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
“It’s also obvious that instead of doing some independent thinking on this incident”
ROFLMAO!
Projection, its what’s for dinner.
“And this tape showed exactly what Breitbart wanted it to show”
I think you’ll find few arguing that.
Breitbart wanted to smear the NAACP and did just that with an out of context video.
Posted by: Ryan C | July 29, 2010, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
j you hit the nail on the head. who fired who? its unfortunate for ms sherod but the big mistake was made by th white house and their rush to judgement. your the president and a harvard lawyer..you should have pounded the facts bfore you pounded the table.
Posted by: catman | July 29, 2010, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
“Breitbart wanted to smear the NAACP and did just that with an out of context video. ”
Wrong, but when has that stopped you. Breitbart was responding to the NAACP that they do not tolerate racism in their group after drafting a resolution condemning the “racist elements” of the Tea Party. You don’t need any more context than the video shown to demonstrate the fallacy put forth by the NAACP about those within their group. Sherrod was not the focus of Breitbart. But keep beating that drum, she seems like a real winner. I hope the lawsuit moves forward (although I can’t imagine what she will sue him for), the discovery process will be high comedy.
Posted by: J.R. | July 29, 2010, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Has Obama forgotten when made an off the cuff comment that lead to the famous “Beer Summit” in the Rose garden?
Posted by: Ed Taylor | July 29, 2010, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
“Breitbart was responding to the NAACP that they do not tolerate racism in their group after drafting a resolution condemning the “racist elements” of the Tea Party.”
So he put out an edited out of context in order to smear the organization, smearing one woman quite egregiously.
Much like the heavily edited ACORN tapes.
I wonder if Breitbart will use the same lawyer that Giles & O’Keefe retained?
“I hope the lawsuit moves forward (although I can’t imagine what she will sue him for), the discovery process will be high comedy.”
Agreed. Breitbart explaining his “journalistic” process should be quite entertaining.
Posted by: Ryan C | July 29, 2010, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
“Cara, you obviously have not read Breitbart’s original post about this video”
I responded to this earlier, but no matter (apologies to the mods if I broke rules, I was unaware of it), the truth is that its not obvious at all. I read it. What actually is obvious is that you bought it, and didn’t question it, and that you’re still buying it without question, and defending it– and pretending the tape shows what Breitbart claims it did. It didn’t. Tell me at what point in the tape it does, and we can discuss specifics.
I don’t think you can. Why?
Because the blogger in question is a liar, and is known for being a liar. And now he’s whining about Obama trying to destroy his “reputation.” Ah, no… people are just trying to make sure others understand Breitbart’s reputation, and don’t get as snookered as the admin and USDA so nobody gets sherroded by the usual suspects again.
Ryan C is correct: “So he put out an edited out of context in order to smear the organization, smearing one woman quite egregiously.
Much like the heavily edited ACORN tapes. ”
The guy is a smear merchant, and his followers are no better.
I do not let the admin off the hook for actually worrying about Breitbart, Fox News or Glenn Beck, or not knowing how often they distort and fabricate, but the fact remains that Breitbart lied, and you are repeating his lies and defending him, without being able to back it up with anything credible, except references back to Breitbart.
As for Breitbart being upset about the NAACP’s accusations, I find it odd that he hasn’t called out white pride group, CCC, who also thinks the Tea Party is racist. Hmmmmm… wonder why he doesn’t try to do a sherrod on them? Any ideas?
Posted by: Cara | July 29, 2010, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
@Cara
The Fox News that I believe in? Puhleeze.
I believe in what Shirley Sherrod said, and if I have to defend Fox News in order to show that she is telling the truth and that the White House & Vilsack aren’t then so be it.
But you can go ahead and continue to throw her under the bus like the White House did..
I believe Shirley Sherrod’s story, not the White House’s. She told the truth and the Obama White House and Vilsack did not.
The mea culpa that Fox News gave was an unnecessary action on their part.
Why they did that, I do not know. Sherrod had been forced to resign before Fox News put out the story about her on their website. Fact. Deal with it.
Oh, and next time, no more diverting the discussion to me. No ad homs allowed.
Posted by: Ray | July 29, 2010, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
“Sherrod had been forced to resign before Fox News put out the story about her on their website. Fact. Deal with it.”/
Fact (deal with it): Fox News Senior Vice President Michael Clemente has *finally* admitted that a “breakdown” allowed Foxnews to run a story about Shirley Sherrod’s comments before she resigned. Look it up. I realize that the Fox News you believe in was denying it vehemently but there you go.
And its not like Fox News doesn’t work hand in hand with smear merchants on a regular basis. They sure ran with the heavily edited ACORN tapes in an unethical manner.
And again, as for Breitbart being upset about the NAACP’s accusations, I find it odd that he hasn’t called out white pride group, CCC, who also thinks the Tea Party is racist. Hmmmmm… wonder why he doesn’t try to do a sherrod on them? Any ideas?
p.s. attorneys experienced in defamation and libel say Sherrod’s case would have merit… you can look that up, too, if you’re interested in sounding somewhat informed on the law and the situation.
Posted by: Cara | July 29, 2010, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
“So he put out an edited out of context in order to smear the organization, smearing one woman quite egregiously.”
Stop reading the lefty talking points! Read Breitbart’s post, then listen to Sherrod’s quotes after this whole kerkuffle. She is no saint here and she was not smeared.
Posted by: J.R. | July 29, 2010, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
“pretending the tape shows what Breitbart claims it did. It didn’t.”
so you’re saying you can’t hear the crowd noise (indicating agreement) when sherrod first tells her tale of her own bias?
Posted by: J.R. | July 29, 2010, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
“and don’t get as snookered as the admin and USDA so nobody gets sherroded by the usual suspects again.”
Classic, what sort of statement is it about the intelligence of the NAACP and the Obama admin that they can get taken by a known “liar” as you say. Says a lot about the folks over there doesn’t it? And none of it is good.
Posted by: J.R. | July 29, 2010, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
so you’re saying you can’t hear the crowd noise (indicating agreement) when sherrod first tells her tale of her own bias?
Posted by: J.R. | Jul 29, 2010 6:51:41 PM
Correct. Where do you hear it? What part of the tape? Here’s what I heard (an embrace of poor people, and agreement in regards to God putting things in your path that you’ll struggle with):
“When I made that commitment, I was making that commitment to black people, and to black people only. [Silence.] But, you know, God will show you things, and He’ll put things in your path so that—that you realize that the struggle [Audience: Alright] is really about poor people. [Audience: Alright, alright.]“
Posted by: Cara | July 29, 2010, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
And none of it is good.
Posted by: J.R. | Jul 29, 2010 6:53:23 PM
We agree its not good. What we don’t agree on is that what the admin did somehow makes what Breitbart does okay, that its okay to be a liar and smear merchant in the first place– and that its okay to run around defending his lies and smears.
I’d rather be the one who bought the lie and then apologized than the liar, and the defender of the known liar and smear merchant.
Posted by: Cara | July 29, 2010, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
“Correct. Where do you hear it? What part of the tape?”
Following her statement about she thought he was acting superior to her and she was deciding how much help she was going to give him. The place clearly gives approving applause and indications that what she was doing was justified.
Now her tale weaves around and eventually she realizes that the real issue is poor vs. rich. That doesn’t make her initial response any more inflammatory though.
Posted by: J.R. | July 29, 2010, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
@Cara
To be truly informed is to go by Sherrod’s own words, which I am doing.
Sherrod’s resignation was announced an hour AFTER Fox News put the story about her on their website, but she was canned BEFORE Fox News put that story about her on their website.
Sherrod says that she was forced to resign because of what Glenn Beck was going to air on his show later that day, and not because of what Vilsack said that he saw on Fox News website. Fox News story about her on their website played no role in her ouster – per Sherrod’s own words.
She was canned, then Fox News put the story about her on their website, then an hour after Fox News had the story about her on their website her resignation was announced.
Fox News website – according to Sherrod’s own words – did not play a role in her ouster. And she was forced to resign by the White House, not by Vilsack – per Sherrod’s own words.
BTW, I never brought up anything about the lawsuit against Breitbart, so there was no cause ior you to say that I was uninformed on the lawsuit.
Posted by: Ray | July 29, 2010, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
“that its okay to be a liar and smear merchant in the first place”
So what would you call miss sherrod when she says that Breitbart once to return to the time when blacks were slaves or when she says that FoxNews would rather we live in a time when blacks are unable to look at whites and need to keep their heads down?? What would she be?
Posted by: J.R. | July 29, 2010, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
BTW, I never brought up anything about the lawsuit against Breitbart, so there was no cause ior you to say that I was uninformed on the lawsuit.
Posted by: Ray | Jul 29, 2010 7:20:54 PM
I confused you and JR, probably because you both came across as defending right wing outfits that distort and smear.
As I said in previous posts, I do not let the admin off the hook for actually worrying about Breitbart, Fox News or Glenn Beck, or not knowing how often they distort and fabricate, but in my mind that doesn’t forgive the liars and smear merchants or it certainly doesn’t mean they and their supporters, celebraters, defenders, backers have no role in the larger problem.
Posted by: Cara | July 29, 2010, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Following her statement about she thought he was acting superior to her and she was deciding how much help she was going to give him. The place clearly gives approving applause and indications that what she was doing was justified.”//
I’ve watched it four times, and I didn’t hear any applause. At one point there was laughter, but the biggest applause lines and approval came at the parts regarding redemption, not racism or bias. I think it takes a warped mind to see it the other way— as if someone was trying very, very, very hard to see it in a way that would fit a preconceived agenda. As if someone was seeking retaliation and working pretty hard to get it, ethics be darned.
And I don’t think that’s cool, or worthy, or good, or worth defending or protecting or supporting or celebrating. I think it is worth calling out and exposing and naming it as what it is. Wrong.
Posted by: Cara | July 29, 2010, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
“probably because you both came across as defending right wing outfits that distort and smear.”
You mean outlets that don’t fit your narrow world view.
“As I said in previous posts, I do not let the admin off the hook for actually worrying about Breitbart, Fox News or Glenn Beck”
They didn’t just worry Cara, they wrongfully forced a woman to resign without so much as a word from her in her defense! Glenn Beck gave this woman more due process than Obama did. Remember, she actually did say these things, they were her words.
“but in my mind that doesn’t forgive the liars and smear merchants”
Again what would you call Sherrod? Or the Obama admin for that matter with the acted stupidly comment about the cambridge pd?
“or it certainly doesn’t mean they and their supporters, celebraters, defenders, backers have no role in the larger problem. ”
And what problem would that be? Exposing frauds?
Posted by: J.R. | July 29, 2010, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
One last thing,
Sherrod had a good thing going until she appeared on AC360 and said the following:
Sherrod: “I think that he [Breitbart] would like to get us stuck back in the times of slavery. That’s where I think he would like to see all black people end up again.”
Anderson Cooper: “You think he’s racist.”
Sherrod: “I do.”
Sherrod’s lawsuit against Breitbart would almost certainly be negated by Breitbart countersuing over this clip, if both lawsuits weren’t actually thrown out, which could be quite possible, given that they are both considered to be public officials, that it is nearly impossible for public officials to effectively sue, loss of reputation is required, and Sherrod had her reputation quickly restored.
I don’ like the way that Breitbart handled things, but Sherrod was no better in that clip, and Vilsack and the White House both screwed up.
Posted by: Ray | July 29, 2010, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
Sherrod’s lawsuit against Breitbart would almost certainly be negated by Breitbart countersuing over this clip///
How do you sort that one out? There’s no lie there, as I assume she does think he’s a racist, and in the circle he travels that leads to acclaim rather than ridicule, doesn’t it? Plus, where is the evidence Sherrod would have to the contrary?
If Sherrod sues, the burden would be on her as the plaintiff to prove that Breitbart knew that the tape was edited to present her in a false light, or had cause to suspect it did.
If Breitbart sued, the burden would be on him as the plaintiff to prove that Sherrod knew she was presenting information that was false, and it would have to go beyond the expression of opinion. Do you recall the label he had up on his website about a government racist?
Ultimately, I don’t follow how you get to your conclusion when I go over the elements for both possible cases. Perhaps, you want to go through it step by step?
Oh… and comparing Sherrod fighting back and claiming that she’s no better than someone who regularly doctors tapes and is known as a liar and smear merchant is pretty shady in my book. But, hey, I don’t have to do business with ya, so that’s not my problem. I simply suggest people think about the leaps in logic and false equivalencies the comparison relies upon.
Posted by: Cara | July 29, 2010, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
I meant to say public figure, not public official, in that last post.
Posted by: Ray | July 29, 2010, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
“Why they did that, I do not know. Sherrod had been forced to resign before Fox News put out the story about her on their website. Fact. Deal with it.”
I guess FoxNews is lying about FoxNews.
“The Agriculture Department announced Monday, shortly after FoxNews.com published its initial report on the video, that Sherrod had resigned.”
Either that or you’re lying.
Surprisingly I side with FoxNews on this one.
Posted by: Ryan C | July 29, 2010, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
“probably because you both came across as defending right wing outfits that distort and smear.”
You mean outlets that don’t fit your narrow world view.
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If you consider it a narrow world view to rule out taking at face value any news from right wing outfits or any outfit that has been busted lying, fabricating and distorting by multiple fact checkers and in rather big ways over a long period of time, then, sure. Absolutely. I don’t like liars, and, ha, I don’t consider them credible.
I am pursuit in the truth.
Posted by: Cara | July 29, 2010, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
“I don’ like the way that Breitbart handled things,”
Ahhh yes the famous both sides do it argument when the right wing is caught in a smear and/or lie.
The party of personal responsibility strikes again!
Posted by: Ryan C | July 29, 2010, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
J.R’s clip out of context, showing right wing spin: Or the Obama admin for that matter with the acted stupidly comment about the cambridge pd?
What Obama actually said: “”I think it’s fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry. Number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home. And number three – what I think we know separate and apart from this incident – is that there is a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately, and that’s just a fact.”
I’d prefer he’d used a different word than stupidly but nobody’s perfect and in context I understood what he was getting at and agreed, and would still agree, though I understand the pressure police are under and cut Crowley slack. I’d be very angry if I was arrested while in my own home after traveling.
Posted by: Cara | July 29, 2010, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
Shirley surely seems to like the spotlight. I must have seen her a dozen times on TV the last few days.
She has been offered her job back, apologies have been given and she is free to file a lawsuit- so get back to work Shirley!
Posted by: david | July 29, 2010, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Ryan C wrote: “The party of personal responsibility strikes again!”
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Wait till you hear about the probable fraud, waste, and abuse in the USDA handling of the settlement for the Pigford vs. Glickman (and then Vilsack). Looks like some of oBama’s “spreading the wealth” going on. Question is… will the worthless news media look into the details of this case and Shirley “SUE” Sherrod, or will they continue their current narrative that “wascally” Breitbart and Fox News snookered the SMARTEST administration ever to walk the face of the earth.
Posted by: gk | July 30, 2010, 12:05 am 12:05 am
“Wait till you hear about the probable fraud, waste, and abuse in the USDA handling of the settlement for the Pigford vs. Glickman”
Interesting that Republicans like Grassley introduced legislation to reopen the Pigford case “to allow more black farmers to join and to provide more funding to settle claims” and that independent studies found gross racial disparities in USDA programs, and that fact checkers reference this whole thing as “another bogus Sherrod smear.”
Right wing smear merchants are still walking around with their blow torches, obviously.
Posted by: Cara | July 30, 2010, 12:30 am 12:30 am
Cara wrote:”Interesting that Republicans like Grassley introduced legislation to reopen the Pigford case “to allow more black farmers to join and to provide more funding to settle claims”
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So how many more of these black farmers are going to get settlements. There has already been more settlements than there are black farmers. Who is feeding at this trough?
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“and that fact checkers reference this whole thing as “another bogus Sherrod smear.”
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Since when did oBama useful idiots qualify as fact checkers.
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“Right wing smear merchants are still walking around with their blow torches, obviously. ”
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While you lefties are desperate to change the subject from jobless recovery, record unemployment, Democrat Corruption (Rangel is only the latest), oBama sinking in the polls, most incompetent and radical administration in history, etc. Sure don’t want anyone focusing on that stuff, do you.
Posted by: gk | July 30, 2010, 12:39 am 12:39 am
Obama, how ’bout the bogus controversy that you created over the Cambridge police officer, or the bogus controversy over the AZ immigration bill, or the bogus controversy of how you defined us Americans as “an arrogant nation”, etc.? Don’t you think Arizona ‘deserves better’? Don’t you think our police officers deserve better? Don’t you think America deserves better? Oh but no, you are a racist. How do you explain giving Sherrod, a racist against white farmers a pass when you yourself made this statement in 1995:
“PRESIDENT OBAMA: And I really want to emphasize the word responsibility. I think whether you are a white executive living out in the suburbs who doesn’t want to pay taxes to inner city children”
Why did Obama have to mention the skin color of executives in the suburbs if he wasn’t a racist?Likewise, why did Sherrod have to mention the color of the farmer’s skin if she wasn’t a racist?
Posted by: EPU | July 30, 2010, 1:27 am 1:27 am
Great, now what is Obama going to do??? Shut down the internet to promote “fairness”, Oh wait, Lieberman already is trying to do that…
America, your hopelessly lost and are being led to Third World status…
Had enough yet? Guess not! So, why are you all complaining AGAIN! You asked for it, you GOT it! Congratulations, now SHUT UP and take your medicine, you FOOLS!
Posted by: CBA | July 30, 2010, 8:10 am 8:10 am
‘Cara wrote:”Interesting that Republicans like Grassley introduced legislation to reopen the Pigford case “to allow more black farmers to join and to provide more funding to settle claims” ‘
Yes, and now Native American farmers and ranchers are pressing USDA on bias complaints (Washington Post). The case, Keepseagle v. Vilsack, is similar to the Pigford class-action lawsuit.
Posted by: Cara | July 30, 2010, 10:06 am 10:06 am
“Sure don’t want anyone focusing on that stuff, do you.”
Don’t we? When it comes to recovery, Republicans in Congress oppose any and all stimulus efforts, and won’t let Democrats vote on any additional recovery initiatives. They’re economically illiterate. On top of that, they obstructed a healthcare bill for 9/11 heroes. In regards to corruption, I think focus should be on Rangel, but I wouldn’t leave out Ensign or the Wyley brothers. Pelosi is pointing to Rangel’s travails as proof that Dems are succeeding in delivering on their promise to “drain the swamp.” You disagree? Got specifics? And if you want to talk polling numbers, what do you think of Charlie Cook’s suggestion that it appears the Republican wave has subsided? I think that is as it should be as the Republicans don’t stand for anything worthwhile, have a terrible record and have no agenda. What are they for? Certainly not America or American principles.
As for the rest of the rant, I’m absolutely willing to talk about the most incompetent and radical admin in history– but the righties whine quite a bit when anyone mentions the epic failures of the Bush-Cheney admin. You can almost see their heads exploding.
Posted by: Cara | July 30, 2010, 10:26 am 10:26 am
When will Sherrod (Charade!) file her lawsuit against the Ag Dep’t for improperly terminating her??
….waiting….waiting….
Posted by: Libs and the Lying Liars Who Elect Them | July 30, 2010, 11:05 am 11:05 am
“Wait till you hear about the probable fraud, waste, and abuse in the USDA handling of the settlement for the Pigford vs. Glickman”
Oh I am sure that’s the next “expose” by the right wing media.
They’ve already started to cast discrimination settlements as reparations.
Why? Because the right wing depends on stoking racial fears.
They don’t have any other ideas.
Posted by: Ryan C | July 30, 2010, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Ryan C wrote:”They’ve already started to cast discrimination settlements as reparations.”
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The number of total claims filed in the settlement of the Pigford case not only exceeded the original estimate by almost 40 to 50 times, it is close to four times the USDA’s estimate of 26,785 total black owned farms in 1977!… looks like everybody has a Cousin Pookie who has come to feed at the taxpayer trough even though they were not a farmer. Come on in!
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“Why? Because the right wing depends on stoking racial fears.”
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New Communities is due to receive approximately $13 million …plus $150,000 each to Shirley and Charles for pain and suffering). Why did they get $300K when the average payout was well below that. Whats racial about that?
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“They don’t have any other ideas. ”
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And DEMOCRATS have no other options than to fling monkey poo. They have no ethics, no morals, no standards. Who is your counsel on these things, Charlie Rangel?
Posted by: gk | July 30, 2010, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Leave it to the right wing American Thinker to take a straight forward article by Agri-Pulse (apparently a vertical new site that focuses on Ag issues natch)
“The number of total claims filed in the settlement of the Pigford case not only exceeded the original estimate by almost 40 to 50 times, it is close to four times the USDA’s estimate of 26,785 total black owned farms in 1977!…”
From the actual article
“Already, the number of people who have been paid and are still seeking payment will likely exceed the 26,785 black farmers who were considered to even be operating back in 1997, according to USDA.”
The Pigford case dealt with racial discrimination between 1983 and 1997.
Gee a right wing media outlet distorting article and outright lying!
” looks like everybody has a Cousin Pookie who has come to feed at the taxpayer trough even though they were not a farmer. Come on in!”
The easiest way to bait a racist who believes in white privilege into outrage is to tell him a minority is getting something he is not eligible for….the right wing media plays their audience like a fiddle on this measure.
They have no ethics, no morals, no standards. Who is your counsel on these things, Charlie Rangel?”
As opposed to Sen Vitter, Sen Ensign, or the head of the FL GOP?
ROFLMAO!
Both parties have had, have and will have corrupt politicians.
Its just seems that the GOP has many more and they are just left alone.
Posted by: Ryan C | July 30, 2010, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
The reason anyone has any right to repeatedly bring up the failures of the Bush administration is because they MAJORLY SCREWED UP! We were paying for it as far as how we were viewed throughout the world and Obama has immensely reversed the negative perception. People are paying for the economic rip off that affected the rest of the world. We are still in Iraq, because the BA got in there on false pretenses. So, since “The car” was run so wrecklessly into the ditch, there’s a whole lot more to do than just pull the car out. As if that’s not enough, the Republicans are still working hard at pitting everyone against each other, whether it be Immigrants, African Americans, Teachers, Homosexuals anyone is fair game as long as Republicans don’t get the blame for the problems they caused for the American people. Your latest goof was picking on a private citizen, all based on false accusations about her. I know who Shirley Sherrod is because of the right wing.
However, she didn’t take it, she dished it back. Oh and the right wing has the nerve to block and stall legislation that helps the very people suffering because of the BA’s cuts affecting everything from education to experienced scrutiny over the financial institutions that caused our financial woes. Yeah, we have every right to keep bringing up how BUSH screwed us!
Posted by: FACE IT | July 30, 2010, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Posted by: Ryan C | Jul 30, 2010 5:20:18 PM
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Personally, I can’t get enough of Ms. Sherrod… she so faithfully represents the position of the “aggrieved black” in America… so often found on the public payroll… or as in the case of Rev. Jackson, on top of the “go to” list of the media…
It’s time for a real discussion of race in America… sure, let’s talk about white racism, as Mr. Obama does in his books… but let’s also talk about black crime, over-dependence on the state, failure to thrive… etc… The secret to black success must be found in the black community…, not in defeating whites, but in defeating the very challenges that whites face and defeat everyday…
Posted by: Quo Warranto? | July 30, 2010, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
“The secret to black success must be found in the black community…, not in defeating whites, but in defeating the very challenges that whites face and defeat everyday…”
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And as long as the news media goes to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton as the “spokesman” for black America it will continue. For once, please get the perspective of Bill Cosby, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, … there are plenty if the worthless news media would just DARE to look.
Posted by: gk | July 30, 2010, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Well, at least Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are always out in force fighting for the rights of people.
Posted by: sunnyshineyday | August 2, 2010, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm