President Obama to Make Recess Appointment of CMS Administrator Republicans Attacking as ‘Expert on Rationing’

Rationing already exists and is prevalent.
If you’re healthy and can pay, you will get excellent care.
If you’re no longer healthy or you cannot pay, your care is rationed.
Right wingers are fine with this arrangement provided they are not the ones without insurance or with a pre-existing condition.

“If you are no longer healthy or you cannot pay,your care is rationed”-prove it. In reality the health care system is going broke precisely because unhealthy patients are getting intensive medical care,regardless of prognosis or ability to pay.If you present to an ER critically ill you will receive the best care in the world whether you can pay for it or not. The problem is that someone else(everybody else)pays for it.Failure to provide care would lead to a lawsuit,attempted dumping is against the law.

This is just another example of this administration’s fear of democracy.They don’t want to let CNN cover the fiasco in the Gulf(“we are not the enemy”),they don’t care about what the public wants about health care,they are afraid that even the overwhelmingly Democrat congress MIGHT ASK SOME QUESTIONS of this supporter of socialized medicine.

More on those private insurance companies who don’t dump patients according to Nephron,
“The disclosures come to light after a recent investigation by Reuters showed that another health insurance company, Assurant Health, similarly targeted HIV-positive policyholders for rescission. That company was ordered by courts to pay millions of dollars in settlements.”

“No one in this country is refused care because they do not have insurance.”
This is a convenient fiction believed by those who face the cognitive dissonance of a guilty conscience.
IN fact, there are people refused care every day because they can’t afford it. Hospitals in some cases are required to provide care in an emergency – something that can have a wide variety of definitions. No hospital has any obligation to treat non-emergency medical problems, no matter how severs, until they become emergencies – by which time it is usually too late.

Donald Berwick, Rationer-in-Chief. Let’s see who was it that said Obamacare did not include rationing?

If it were true, as your post would lead people to believe, lawyers across America would be getting even richer than they already are with lawsuits of malpractice and/or wrongful death, pain and suffering from lack of care, and so on.”
BTW, I have to compliment you on your effort to shift my attack from insurance companies (which everyone loathes) to doctors before placing blame on greedy lawyers.
The lengths the right wing goes to to defend their corporate masters…..

FlashOverride, you are just dead wrong. You can call an ambulance for a hangnail, and they are obligated by law to pick you up and take you to the emergency room, where the doctor is obligated to treat you, and you will not be held responsible for a dime. The law is called EMTALA.

“You can call an ambulance for a hangnail, and they are obligated by law to pick you up and take you to the emergency room, where the doctor is obligated to treat you, and you will not be held responsible for a dime. The law is called EMTALA.”
Except that is not what the law says
EMTLA.com”EMTALA is Section 1867(a) of the Social Security Act, within the section of the U.S. Code which governs Medicare.
EMTALA applies only to “participating hospitals” — i.e., to hospitals which have entered into “provider agreements” under which they will accept payment from the Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) under the Medicare program for services provided to beneficiaries of that program. In practical terms, this means that it applies to virtually all hospitals in the U.S., with the exception of the Shriners’ Hospital for Crippled Children and many military hospitals. Its provisions apply to all patients, and not just to Medicare patients. (See Section 15 below.)
The avowed purpose of the statute is to prevent hospitals from rejecting patients, refusing to treat them, or transferring them to “charity hospitals” or “county hospitals” because they are unable to pay or are covered under the Medicare or Medicaid programs. This purpose, however, does not limit the coverage of its provisions — see Sections 15 and 16 below.”
And that is for hospitals, not ambulance service.

Not treating a patient who mcomes into an ER would violate several standard-of-care issues and Federal statutes. Jack Ohlander became a millionare several times over from cases nowhere near as egregious as dumping someone out of an ER.

“RYAN, WHAT A CROCK, NO ONE IN THIS COUNTRY IS DENIED HEALTH CARE. WALK INTO ANY EMERGENCY ROOM AND BY LAW THEY TREAT YOU!”
Its a waste of time to argue with someone who can’t figure out the caps lock button.

Gee Ryan you seem to know what level of care is appropriate in the ER.Have you ever been in one?Ever been in an ambulance? Ever see somebody send a kid out of the ER because ‘it wasn’t an emergency” and then have him come back 12 hours later in cardiac arrest? NOBODY GETS DENIED CARE IN AN ER IN THIS COUNTRY because they can’t pay.GIVE US EXAMPLES DR> RYAN.

Ryan C wrote:”Google will find you plenty of examples”
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You should ask Michelle oBama who was instrumental in creating the program at the University of Chicago Medical Center (while pulling a sweetheart $317K annual salary) which “redirected” low-income patients to community hospitals so it would have more beds for “non-low-income” patients needing the more profitable procedures. Patient-dumping those you didn’t want and cherry-picking those you wanted who could pay the big dollars.

You should ask Michelle oBama who was instrumental in creating the program at the University of Chicago Medical Center (while pulling a sweetheart $317K annual salary) which “redirected” low-income patients to community hospitals so it would have more beds for “non-low-income” patients needing the more profitable procedures”
So patient dumping does not exist except in this major program headed by Michele Obama.

Why is there no mention that Sen. Barrasso is a medical surgeon?

“NOBODY GETS DENIED CARE IN AN ER IN THIS COUNTRY because they can’t pay.GIVE US EXAMPLES”
I posted an examples of a man being denied care.
Even posted the cited law that has caveats when it comes to providing care.
I realize the hunt for Obama’s birth certificate occupies much of your brain but please try to keep up.
Of course now you’ve been trying to change denied medical care to denied car in an emergency room so even you realize I am right and you are quite wrong…again

The lengths the right wing goes to to defend their corporate masters…..
Posted by: Ryan C | Jul 6, 2010 9:47:51 PM
Truly stunning.

What he speaks is true. It’s not like insurance, or even a lack of, are not rationing now.
I had a brother in law die from a lack of insurance. In a hospital. I have no doubt his inability to pay greatly contributed to as little care as they were allowed to give.

“From patient dumping does not exist to the patient dumping phenomenon was started by Michele Obama. ” – Ryan C.
Gee Ryan, I don’t know if I’d go so far as to say Michele Obama started patient dumping but she surely was a pioneer and got the most press about it. It makes sense that other Major Institutions would follow her lead.
: o )

“.You gave one anecdotal report-rare enough to be a news item.It just doesn’t happen”
Except for that one time I posted. I can post many more times about people dying because their health insurance denied them treatment. But frankly its too depressing. Especially when people defend this practice by insurance companies.
Oh and it would be hard for us to know how many times or what a claim is denied for because insurance companies are not required to share that information.
The reason people found out about Wellpoint denying claims to women with breast cancer is CA requires disclosure of that info.
So even moving the goalposts…you failed.

A very simple deduction can be made that since it’s been clearly shown that people who have insurance go for more check-ups and screenings, and early detection of cancer greatly improves your chances of recovery, then by these two statements alone it’s clear that people without insurance are more likely to die of cancer.

Ryan C: “I can post many more times about people dying because their health insurance denied them treatment.”
Jack Murtha had great health insurance and the best medical care available on the planet. He died anyway.
Ted Kennedy had great health insurance and the best medical care available on the planet. He died anyway.
Robert Byrd had great health insurance and the best medical care available on the planet. He died anyway.
People WITH health insurance who are given the best available treatment die every single day.

If govt run health care is going to be so great, why did Obama and the dems protect themselves from ever having to be a part of it?
Will Michelle Obama sign her mother and children up for it?

Corrupt, incompetent, irresponsible, untruthful, ideologically blind…
Obama is the worst President ever.

If I were to worry about Mediscare etc. I would probably worry more about a lot of unnecessary procedures and expense.. versus rationing.. it is a system that is out of control and easily manipulated and cheated. The burden of these transfer payments threatens all of us.

“Republicans in Congress have made it clear in recent weeks that they were going to stall the nomination as long as they could, solely to score political points”. I love it when the White House makes such bold face lies. Republicans can’t stall anything. So if it was truly stalled it was because of democrats. Heck even the NYTimes is reporting that Senators were still waiting for Berwick to the questionnaire.
Does anyone else remember the times when recess appointments under Bush were just plain evil?

” it is a system that is out of control and easily manipulated and cheated.”….and one that Obama and the Democrats just tied you to forever. You should be thanking them for putting the millstone around everyone’s neck. It’s more ‘fair’ to have you paying for your neighbor’s insurance and vice versa. Becuase you’re not individuals with differnet needs and wants. You’re sheep – to be herded and cattle-chuted through the “system” set up for you by your betters in a far off, crime-ridden city full of laywers and lobbyists.
Open wide. The changes start in January.
Aren’t you lucky!

>Does anyone else remember the times when recess appointments under Bush were just plain evil?
Stop living in the past and move on dot org. That was in the dark time. The long, long ago.
This is the new era of hope and change, wingnuts. When Obama does something the liberals excoriated Bush for (like recess appointments), and he does it MORE than Bush, you see, it magically becomes OK. That’s the new math, kids.

What did ya expect, a FREE RIDE with this guy…I am coming to the conclusion that if you voted for this Administration, you did the greatest dis-service to future generations than you possibly realize…EVERYBODY IS GOING TO PAY…

what an evil thing to do. just another sneaky way to get the agenda shoved down the throoat of the AMERICAN people. Can’t wait til elections 2010 and 2012. Go Conservative not Progressive.

And….wait for it….The cost to your wallet and health are going to be increasing to the point of no stopping it….

ryan c and pro mama, do you two not realize how hyproticial you are being? No, it isn’t okay for insurance companies to ration medical treatment and it isn’t okay for someone Obama appoints to ration it either! your posts seem to say as long as Obama does the rationing it’s okay. But than again, you guys blindly follow this guy. Hope there’s a net on the other side of that cliff!

> Its a harsh reality but there it is.
Obamabots can’t deal with reality. It’s too “hard” and “not fair.”
They’ve appointed themselves as the new overlords of ‘fairness,’ naturally.
So open your wallet for “fairness” sake. Because you need to be penalized due to the wants and needs of your neighbor, who is YOUR responsibility.
Get it? Neither do they, but thinking isn’t important here. Only feeeeelings.

What people don’t know is that Berwick is a diehard redistributionist, socialist. He regards the British NHS as the model on which American health care should emmulate. If anyone knew how radical this Harvard elitist is, they would be shocked. Then again, didn’t the American people elect an out of touch, arrogant, Harvard elitist President?
Obam-bam is dismantling this country at a pace that is inconceivable.

Death Panel, cough, cough, Death Panel?

At this point in his presidency, Jake Tapper points out, George W. Bush had made 15 recess appointments. Democrats claimed that Bush was so abusive of the privilege that they started keeping the Senate in session continuously after taking control of the chamber in January 2007 to block any more recess appointments. How many recess appointments has Obama made? Eighteen.
(source: Ed Morrissey)
Posted by: TRAFF | Jul 7, 2010 11:30:50 AM
as usual since Obama is doing it, it’s wonderful! Historical! No problem! move on folks nothing to see here!

Which is as good an argument as I’ve ever heard any liberal make as to why insurance companies cannot be trusted to protect the sick. It’s only profitable to cover the healthy. Only non-profits can cover everybody without a conflict of interest since trying to save the lives of their customers should be top priority, not turning a profit.
Or better yet, a MUTUAL insurance company. Their customers ARE their shareholders. There’s a useful tension there – harnessing the profit motive, and the good things that come with that, to the needs of the customers, minimizing the bad things like dropping the sick.
A non-profit does not have the incentive to stay fiscally healthy, and would fail out of sheer weight of claims, leaving everyone out in the cold, even the sick you are so worried about.

“A non-profit does not have the incentive to stay fiscally healthy, and would fail out of sheer weight of claims”
Which is why rationing becomes the hot-potato everybody throws around: one way or another everybody has to catch it. No system can afford to cover all the potential claims.

What are all of you conservatives complaining about?
If you cannot afford the best treatment, you die;let the market decide.
That’s your way of thinking so why complain when a policy wonk says basically the same thing?
This appointment will only be until the next Congress takes office in January, when, presumably, there will be a Republican majority to deny healthcare instead of Democrats.

“this guy wants to RATION health care, he will select who gets treatment and who dies”
Greedy insurance companies are rationing healthcare right now.

“The social budget is limited — we have a limited resource pool. It makes terribly good sense to at least know the price of an added benefit, and at some point we might say nationally, regionally, or locally that we wish we could afford it, but we can’t.”
Why can’t Obama and all the progressives make that statement about EVERY OTHER decision they have made?

When your grandmother is denied healthcare that could save her life, and subsequently dies as a result, how will that hopey-changey thing be working for you then?

Anyone actually surprised by this appointment of another socialist? This guy would not have been able to withstand a senate confirmation.
The winds of change are blowing hard now and November will prove it. Americans are all wide awake now. We’ll have to put up with some more damage to this great nation for a bit longer but we will take this country back!

“Any health care funding plan that is just equitable civilized and humane must, must redistribute wealth from the richer among us to the poorer and the less fortunate. Excellent health care is by definition redistributional.”
“I am romantic about the NHS*; I love it. All I need to do to rediscover the romance is to look at health care in my own country.”
*(National Health Service – UK’s govt. run healthcare agency)
- Excerpt from Donald Berwick speech (2008)
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Jake – Any reason you left out these comments in your reporting? Comments such as these (which are a mere glimpse into Berwick’s heart) are why the leader of the “Most Transparent Administration Evah!” chose recess appointment.
Indeed, we’re all socialists now.
Thanks, Obama voters.

Of course everything he says is absolutely true. It’s true of every aspect of life, including every form of insurance.
The question is, will we preserve freedom of choice, economic freedom, and a healthy free market for healthcare so that when the rationing catches up to you, you will STILL have the choice to pay for your own treatment or additional coverage!

Anyone making the “rationing” attack is either ignorant of the term’s meaning or being disingenuous. It’s sad to see that our elected officials are either incapable or unwilling to have an intelligent discussion about health care when people’s lives and the country’s economic future depend on it.

“People on the left have fought against that rationing. They said it was because of profits”
If they’re being honest they’ll admit that everybody can’t have unlimited medical services, but as a health insurance provider if you have to turn a profit you’ll have less money to settle claims. For-profits have to ration more than non-profits.

The new Nominee that Obama has sailed through as his man. is , of course , a hard line Socialist. Do his people love him? Of course they love him, they have as much as they need to operate. How about the patients? well, they only get what his welfare system gives them. They do not know if that is enough or not. I notice among the babies he serves in the varrious countries does not seem to have any pictures of children with any disability. That was always a big heart tugger to get contributions. They simply are not there with this guy. I WONDER WHY???

If they’re being honest they’ll admit that everybody can’t have unlimited medical services, but as a health insurance provider if you have to turn a profit you’ll have less money to settle claims. For-profits have to ration more than non-profits.
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The government has to please nobody. Private insurers have to attract customers, and incorrect rationing loses customers.
If you don’t like what the government does, where you gonna go?

This is why we need this man impeached.. first get the demos out of control this fall and then start impeachment proceedings!!

Pray for our incompetent president and his staff of curs.
Psalms 109:8
Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
AMEN.

“The statement assumes that non-profits are just as efficient as for-profits in all expenses with the only difference being profit”
Yes, ceteris paribus is used all the time in economic models. If you want to try and prove other factors dominate knock yourself out but if it were obvious a lot less people would be nervous about privatizing Social Security

Skip: “Greedy insurance companies are rationing healthcare right now.”
Medicare, the single-payer system worshipped by liberals, rations healthcare right today. In fact, they deny a higher percentage of claims than most private insurers.
Medicare currently has nearly $76 TRILLION in unfunded mandates and an additional $19 TRILLION for just Part D (which started in 2006!). The operating losses are staggering and getting larger by the minute. Medicare will be doing a lot more rationing in the future. Sorry.

“If you don’t like what the government does, where you gonna go?”
If the choices are available go with a more expensive private plan. Despite claims to the contrary few Democrats advocate the elimination of private insurance.

We were assured this wasn’t going to happen, no death panels. Just another lie from the Democratic party. This was never about “healthcare”, it was about control over the population, power and money. Enjoy your socialist paradise while there’s still someone else’s money to pay for it. After that don’t get sick,

“Thanks, Obama voters.”
You’re welcome.

“Can anyone seriously make the argument that the government can manage a large enterprise as efficiently as a private company”
The Republicans sure seemed ready to make that very same argument when they expressed concerned that a public option would eliminate private insurance since private firms would not be able to compete with non-profits. Or were they not serious?

“Come on libs, start your own health insurance company.”
We just might do that someday. They’re called a public option or single-payer.”
Yes, you are so brave with other people’s money. Remember, there is no “right” to healthcare.

@ Skip:
The argument that private companies won’t be able to compete with government ones has nothing whatsoever to do with any supposed “efficiency” on the part of the government, and everything to do with the government-funded programs having access to essentially a bottomless source of free capital in the form of tax increases on the citizenry at large.
This is a false analogy, and you – by your phrasing – clearly knew it.
Please don’t insult other readers by assuming they won’t see through your logical fallacies.

We’re getting exactly what we deserve for putting this self-righteous demigod in the White House. Just wait, there’s more to come.

The lunatic-left healthcare RATIONING, ABORTION and DEATH PANEL czar is now in place.

The entire establishment is a giant pile of vomit chunks!
NO FOX/CNN/MSNBC Backed Candidates 2012!
Vote out all establishment candidates and then we’ll end the Fed and then possibly we can get out of this mess- the IRS too.

“Berwick said the degree to which the knowledge base is “linked directly to policy and decision is a matter of choice. You could make it advisory, or you could make it mandatory, or you could make it a policy rule.”
And we know exactly which choice he will make – MANDATORY.
The weak must go to the wall. The strong must help them there.

Berwick quotes: “invisible hand of the market…” “darkness of private enterprise…” “unfair daylight of the press…” “using your tax base to provide a single point of finance…” “must redistribute wealth…”
Gee, I wonder why Obama had to sneak this guy through as a recess appointment. Someone needs to send him a copy of our constitution…

I love the fact that “Now” we are hearing and seeing that there will be “rationing” of health care. The libs and other radicals said that was all a lie by conservatives, and lo and behold , now they themselves are admitting it will be so. Liberals, they lie and will do whatever they can to achieve their goals. Just like communists.

This communist needs to be ousted. Let’s agree to start by kicking out his supporting politburo this November.

“That’s what a public option is intended to do where private insurance is failing: to protect the citizenry at large in sickness and in health.”
I thought we, as free-born citizens, were responsible for our own personal well-being?
If I make bad decisions throughout my life (diet of Big Macs, pizza, sugary drinks, etc.; bottle o’ Jack and 3 packs o’ cigarettes a day, etc.) and become unhealthy (diabetes, cancer, lung disease, etc.) does the gubbermint (in reality, tax-paying citizens) “owe” me access to affordable healthcare coverage (even tho’ at that point I will have a “pre-existing condition” of my own making)?

Question: How do you solve the $10T Social Security and Medicare deficit?
Answer: Don’t pay for treatment that is deemed “costly”. Medicare costs go down and those people no longer receive SS checks. 2 birds with one rationing stone.
But don’t you dare mention death panels….

ABC do a real report on this, Senator Baccus a Democrat just came out against Obama for this appointment. Mostly for the same reasons I have, he was not even put before a committee! Not one person in Congress asked a question of this man in charge of overseeing 1/6th of our economy! He wasn’t even scheduled for a committee, and the one’s doing the scheduling are Democrats and Obama Admin staff! Wake up America you are having the wool pulled over your eyes… This is unacceptable no matter who is President!
ABC tell me how many of the 15 under Bush didn’t even go before a committee? I would really like to know! And see Baccus’s comments on here as well! Democrats have no back bone to vote against Obama on this, and were afraid of the vote for being viewed in front of the American People!

Finally, someone who actually acknowledges the fact that formal rationing will take place. For too long, ObamaCare proponents were completely denying it.
LOVE the Orwellian “NICE” reference, too. Bravo.

It used to be that old people were afraid to go to the hospital because they might not come out……now they will KNOW that they won’t coming out. I guess Jack Kevorkian wasn’t available for this gig.

“Try it sometime, it is very liberating”
I don’t smoke, I don’t drink, I don’t eat junk food, and despite being far from a spring chicken I’ll race you twice around the block any day. But don’t try and get Republicans to try it.

Based on the rationale of rationing, it would seem as a lottery system would be more fair.

@ skip, I’ll take you up on that anytime. my conservative friends are in FAR better shape than my liberal acquaintances, but like you, they’re interminably narcissistic. Kinda goes with bein’ liberal – (usually) baseless narcissism

While I do have a problem with any president trying to sneak in an appointment, what Berwick is saying is true. Sorry folks, the government can’t be all things to all people; there just aren’t enough resources. How much more can they take from our paychecks before it becomes fruitless to even work? Silly me, when I budget at home, we cut expenses; we don’t have the option of taking money from someone else to pay for new expenditures.
The government can’t manage anything and we’re to trust it with healthcare of all things?! Be careful what you ask for because it may very well be some bureaucrat making a statistics-based decision as to who gets treatment with limited resources: the ten year-old with cancer, the 48 year-old dad who needs heart surgery, grandma who needs a new hip, the premature infant? I sure wouldn’t want to make those decisions.
And, tjp612, I agree! I take care of myself, eat right and exercise, but I get to pay more in taxes for lazy people not willing to take responsibility? No, thank you. If it’s something of one’s own doing, he/she should be footing the tab. That’s one reason (of dozens) that our insurance rates are so high: the lazy people are the “gimmes.” Wait, that’s the problem with just about everything.

I’ve learned a lot about the system at my cancer support group.. it is way overpriced and inefficient.. but it’s the best in the world.. and I get that input from people from other continents.

Obama is pulling the plug on grandma -
like only a Communist dictator can.
We will remember in November, comrade Obama.

He’s not an expert on Rationing. He’s an expert on socialized medicine and on wealth redistribution. They guy is a total dyed in the wool socialist. Oh…and say hello to the death squads again. They will be determining who gets what care or any care at all.

With this group of socialist in charge are we very far from Solyent Green?

“So where will we go when the Leftists completely screw up our healthcare system?”
To the top notch single payers system like the rest of the developed world?

I’ll bet that Berwick’s real name is Kevorkian and he changed it at Obama’s direction. He will probably get a cut of every hip replacement,cataract surgery and heart surgery he denies. Look out granny!

“I’ll race you twice around the block any day. But don’t try and get Republicans to try it.”
What does this even mean exactly? I don’t consider myself a republican, but I often vote for those candidates. And I’ll take you up on that offer as well and I’ll do it while eating a big mac and sucking down a beer.

Rationing indicates that there is a limited (finite) supply of an item, good or service. It also indicates that some will receive, and others will be denied. Who will make this determination, and what criteria will they use?
/We’re from the government. We’re here to help you.

“Why is it that libs continually tout the great socialist medical systems around the world but when folks in those countries get sick, where do they want to go? The good old USA”
Yes the wealthy can go anywhere they want paying top dollar.
That’s why Magic Johnson went to France for experimental HIV therapies.
But for the rest of us, Europeans go to doctors and hospitals just like we do.
Except that the Europeans don’t go bankrupt because they because ill or injured.
That’s an American phenomenon….USA! USA!USA!

“That’s why Magic Johnson went to France for experimental HIV therapies.”
You can thank FDA (i.e. government) regulations for that. And that sort of thing is not going to disappear with the government take-over of healthcare.

Can you say Death panel? Well now you have one. And the taxes just keep pileing up.. one day socialism will spend all your grandkids money.. and will be ready to bump them off to get those great grandkids in the labor market.

Sarah Palin was right. The Death Panel is being assembled, and Dr. Death has just been appointed. Berwick will literally decide who lives and who dies, based on what medical treatment he allows them to receive. My guess is that he will try to wipe out all conservatives first and foremost.

“I don’t smoke, I don’t drink, I don’t eat junk food” – Skip
Remind me not to ask you out on a date.

THE DEATH PANELS ARE COMING
THE DEATH PANELS ARE COMING

For all the Obamabots left, when will you see this man has done nothing but LIE to the American public since he took office. “There will be no health care rationing!!” Something he said over and over and even mocked Sarah Palin’s remark about death panels.
She called it right. And now he’s appointing a ration-supporter without the approval of Congress. This is unbelievable. I do not want the government telling me whether or not I will get treatment.
Vote these liars out of office and do not allow Obama to continue circumventing our Constitution.
There will be hell to pay on election day.

Being denied care in the US is the exception, rather than the reality. One of two of our hospitals in this small city provides over $200 million a year in donated care. The other hospital does even more since it’s affiliated with a medical school. Community Health Centers cover all the counties. They rake in millions in grants each year. Their CEOs make great salaries. They also are reimbursed for Medicare and Medicaid patients. They are governed by a board made up of at least 51% patients. They must represent the community served in terms of economic, ethnic and gender status. It was difficult to get a homeless rep to come to meetings. In most cases these patients have zero knowledge in finance, budgeting, grants, and the provision of healthcare. While it IS important to have their input, sadly….they go with whatever is recommended. They put their trust in the center’s executive and health professional staff and in some cases, are lead like sheep.

“You Lie!” hussein is really the gift that keeps on giving to Repubs. All they need do is run and re-run and re-run videos of the outrageous, incendiary, insane comments of this lunatic healthcare RATIONING, ABORTION and DEATH PANEL czar during the campaign. That will ensure that the d-crat socialists have the biggest losses in American history in that election. And if that isn’t enough, run videos of hussein/holder slamming Arizona’s immigration reform efforts. Hopefully, the d-crat socialists will be put out of power for the next century, or more.

First, all patients will begin to share beds, then urinals, and then ventilators.
I would like to give Berwick a ration of my stool.
There is and can be no rationale or defense for choosing this man. He is far from the most qualified for the job, unless you consider health care rationing as your top criterion. You libs got us into it; we’ll use you to mop up from this hideous disatater of an Administration … and you Dem/lib-leaning “independents” won’t get off easily, either.

Can you spell euthanasia for the elderly and very sick? But then again why not take it a step further. Are you not in alignment with the govt’s way of thinking? Don’t believe it just wait and see. Pulling the plug on conservatives will be easy for these progressives. Gives them less of a percentage to fight against them.

C’mon ABC …….. do some actual
reporting and stop being cheerleaders for this guy.
Dr. Death…….thats a great nickname for this guy and I hope that everyone starts to use it over and over.

Obama is KILLING this country.

When will the idiots that fell and voted for Obama realize that he hates our country and is trying to ruin it?
He’s ruined the best health care system in the world, he’s fired the head of GM to show “he won” and has no business being president. This man has done nothing good for this country, it’s clear he hates the USA.
Do you all rememeber Mrs. O’s comments that this was the first time she was proud of her country? Let them both go to China, a communist country that he’d like.

What about the Liberals (eg.Alec Baldwin) who claimed that they would leave the country if Bush was elected?

may
Berwick be the first to receive his own medicine when he falls ill!

The death panels are here. My parents worked 50 years, always paid their taxes, never accepted a penny of public assistance. Since Obamacare they have been denied medical care. I read the government form letter. This is genocide and we are all accomplices standing idly by as people are allowed to perish. We are no better than the Germans who allowed so many to be erased from this world. It is that serious. When we awake it will be from the guilt and shame we all share.

Only communists think so little of the gift of life. From the point of conception, to the final ending days of a person’s awareness, the left demeans and denigrates everything beautiful in life. Abortion, partial birth abortion, doctor assisted suicide, state sponsored death panels all are tenets of Obamaland. The only deaths libs can’t abide are those of murderers.

Death panel Czar!

Sure sounds like we are going to experience a re run of Germany in the 1930s. Either we get rid of the Democrats in November, otherwise you might want to find a different country to live in!

Remember that “study” or report from Leftwing Berkeley faculty or associated as to deriding “Conservatives” and “rightwingers” as somehow mentally defective?
It’s been roundly denounced as unreliable (no surprise there) but I think I see now why such a statement was ever declared.
Meanwhile, humanity by majority views the Leftwing as being the actual mental defectives in our midst. I don’t think I’d have to work too hard to get ublic majority agreement on that.
Please vote these Leftwing monsteres out of office this Fall and in 2012.

President Bush, a White House official said, “was not facing the same level of obstruction. Twenty-eight of President Obama’s nominees have been held on the Senate floor for more than three months. At this point in the Bush administration, only six of his nominees had been waiting that long.”
This proves that Bush nominated centrist-based persons since the senate was almost balanced between the number of democrats versus the number of republicans. Obama had a FILLIBUSTER PROOF super majority (i.e. 60 demcrats and Independents/Socialists – who vote with democrats – in the senate) and still could not get his nominees confirmed. Common sense leads one to conclude that either (1) the senate was too busy working on other issues to bring Obama’s nominees to the floor or (2) Obama’s nominees were so far left that even the FILIBUSTER PROOF super maority of democrats could not support his choices. Given Dr. Death’s (Donald Berwick) credentials, my common sense leads me to conclude that the latter is likely the reason the 28 nominees have not been confirmed.
If people do not see Obama as who he is – a socialist, then they choose to be blind. Also, those who made fun of Palin and her death panels owe her an apology.
Finally, Dr. Death should scare every American to include progressives, socialists and comunists. Fact. No American knows what disease or injury they might contract tomorrow, next week or next year. Disease, cancer, auto accidents, etc do not discrimminate. They attack regardless of age, sex, race, sexualy orientation and political affiliation. Dr. Death’s statistical database will refuse expensive reconstructive surgery for the 25 year old progressive who was injured in a skateboard accident as quickly as it will deny the hip replacement for the 70 year old reitred UAW auto worker.

We retired people have been knocked down,spit-on and crucified with no interest income from our hard work savings,investments that could go down the drain at any time and now the socialist / communist (liberal) party wants to make our last few years as miserable as possible by finding ways to kill us off. It is a shame that we can no longer depend on our children and grandchildren to protect our nation and our FREEDOM.

The silence of doctors on this whole issue is deafening. I am now convinced that a solid majority of doctors and nurses are laying low to avoid any controversy associated to them and only care that they get a nice fat paycheck. There was a time that people became MD’s as an altruistic venture. It is now a tough, but predictable above average income career choice, just like joining any of the burgeoning federal job rolls. We are going to have millions upon millions on the federal payroll who will be an elite class earning significantly more than a much larger population out in the hinterlands. It is a dangerous recipe that I fear will not end well. For any of you who are part of or plan to join this class thinking it will be a steady state of safe and cozy employment, I would be fearful. Not just because the likelyhood is that much of this will eventually be de-funded, but even if you remain in this employment, if the economy truly tanks, your relative wealth will make you a target of resentment and possibly ( and I hope not because I have children), retribution of some manner. On the current trajectory, I believe this is not certain, but very likely.

An Everybody’s Interest Memo:
Dear Ones (all of the peoples) of OUR beautiful planet earth,
We have identified the problem and have found a “universal cure” for our worldwide political, economic and social ills, to as follows:
The Problem ( Disease and Diagnosis)
Oppressive Compulsive Greed Disorder (O.C.G.D.)
What the Deranged Greedy Elite (D.G.E.) and the world population as a direct result are suffering from.
Mode of Transmission ( Indications and Symptoms )
They perpetrate their deranged behaviors through hirelings (Useful Idiots). It is now time for all of this class of dupes, to cease being idiots for hire, and begin acting toward the universal good of humanity, toward the weal of “We The People”. Only those actions which uphold “The Life Supportive Rhythms Of Nature—For All” can be said to be universally good, good also for the Greedy Elite themselves; tormented souls long suffering under the heel of their mistaken delusions of self eloquence; ‘A small class of criminal minds their twisted intellects weave, from grand illusion’s ceaseless pain, an evil tapestry’, the feverish late stages of: Oppressive Compulsive Greed Disorder (O.C.G.D.) —word smithied into rhyme gives a sense of their opine.
The Cure (Treatment and Prognosis)
The cure is to remove the flagging degenerates from the object of their greed, obsessive amounts of greedily acquired monies which they use to leverage illicit power. This is the only sure and “universal cure”, which is also the remedy for every social malaise; including every historical form of political tyranny and WAR ; by which “We The People” are kept prey and prostrate, to receive their scourge of evil congeries, beyond our will to further endure!
Treatment Method
Jail—em all, in ‘Greedy Prison’ with only monopoly board game money and each other to deceive and corrupt at their evil play. Introduce group meditation instruction and daily puppy petting therapy, of course supervised by “We The People” to guide their progress toward, if possible, healthy social reintegration.
By: “We The People” for “We The People” thru collective awareness…

Rationing—another way of saying “death panels.” Congrats Dems, here’s your hope and changes.

Why is everyone so upset that the government might deny you care? This whole country has been lying back and taking it from our insurance companies all this time. Dr. Berwick and Obama are making some comparisons with the UK’s model and trying to develop a model of healthcare that will work better than what we have now. Greedy companies controlling your health care whose sole aim is to prevent you from getting the care you’ve been promised. Oh yeah and to stop making all the people who do have insurance pay for those who don’t. Your emergency room visit would be a $1,000 less if everyone had insurance. Do you honestly believe our President “hates” our country? What a load of crap. No one in the UK is denied life saving care. Rationing is when someone says – this pill costs $5 and will cure what you have. This pill costs $100 and it will also cure what you have, so which one do you go with. Death panels, please can you see Russia from your house too?

I wonder if Dr. Berwick would have given the go ahead for a terminally ill 80 year old woman to get a hip replacement, even though her death would be within the next six months. This is what happened to President Obama’s grandmother.

So when someone gets a death sentence by the Death Czar refusing, I mean, rationing their health care needs to someone else…that someone has nothing left to lose by taking out their rage on a government wonk somewhere. Very short-sighted. But then, its Washington doing what Washington does.

Smell it? It’s there…again! The stench of racial hatred and the cauldron is bubbling anew. This time it will be cultural, economic and political. Blacks cannot accept they are now third-rate while whites have slipped to second-rate and Hispanics are rocketing to the top of the heap and with some 75 years of lawless government experience what makes you think they’ll abide by anything other than what they want.
BTW: Obama and his cronies must be removed from office soon, if not now, and certainly before 2012. But, the next bunch had darn-well have a nation-wide game plan for all or they too will be removed…maybe forcefully.

“Remember that “study” or report from Leftwing Berkeley faculty or associated as to deriding “Conservatives” and “rightwingers” as somehow mentally defective?”
Sharron Angle and Sarah Palin would seem to be exhibits A & B.
“It’s been roundly denounced as unreliable (no surprise there)”
By right wingers who were angry that the truth being told.

This guy is a redistributionist of wealth. He will ration your health care. Death panels are coming. Thanks Comrades for destroying America…

I told you the Death Panels were coming, but you mocked and berated me.
See I told ya so!

I’m still trying to figure out how 28 is almost half of 189. The people who figured that one up are probably the same ones who hird census workers, then laid them off, and then rehired them, thus creating “more” jobs in the process. Good grief.

Bush didn’t appoint Marxists therefore his administration had less objection to their appointments.

Your question:
Where are the moderate Democrats? They sit back and watch this questionable activity and say nothing.
What’s happened to the Democratic Party?
Answer:
They are over there hugging a bunch of Muslims.

To those that mocked Gov. Palin for stating what is coming true….shame on you!

Thanks Mr. Tapper for your fair reporting on this news item. Mr. Tapper is a welcome voice in what I see as generally a leftist and corrupt mainstream media, including most reporters and editors. Would it be that there are more people with the courage and integrity like that of Mr. Tapper.

Don’t feel sorry for Republicans, they welcome debate. The only problem is that liberals find it difficult to deal with the facts.

No time to ‘waste with Washington game playing’? There’s been nothing BUT game playing here. Berwick got a recess appt after stalling the Pub’s for two reasons: the Dems can’t defend their healthcare bill, and they sure as hell don’t want to publicize or talk about it this close to mid-terms. So they shut it down.
Abuse of power. Again. Transparency is one promise they can’t break no matter how hard they try.