By Lee Ferran

Jul 16, 2010 8:01am

Sen. Shelby on Financial Reform: Repeal It

 President Obama took on House GOP Leader John Boehner’s call for repealing financial reform before it’s signed yesterday. But Boehner’s call was backed on "GMA" by Richard Shelby, the ranking Republican on the Senate banking committee. "We would like to repeal it," Shelby said. “We have empowered a lot of the regulatory bodies that failed us before and the question is what have they learned,” he said. “And it is not going to create jobs which we desperately need, it is going to cost jobs. It is going to hurt the economy.” Shelby sighted the lack of reform of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac as well as the formation of a consumer protection agency, calling it the creation "of one of the largest bureaucracies" in years.   “We don’t need this, what we need to do is create jobs. We are all consumers, and we like to make sure the consumer has some protection, but we basically protect ourselves,” he said. “But I tell you, this is not a jobs bill, it is not good for the economy, it is not real reform George.” Watch the interview here: –George Stephanopoulos

User Comments

You know who doesn’t need a jobs bill? You know who did just fine throughout the world-wide recession? Canada. Know why? Because they had very tight banking and financial regulations. Politicians need to get out of bed with corporations and police them. A totally free market only breeds greed and consumer raping. I’d rather have a fair market than a free market. Everyone has to follow rules. Business should be no different.

Posted by: Jonathon | July 16, 2010, 8:35 am 8:35 am

I know it’s a losing cause…getting liberals to actually read the legislation their fearless leaders pass…but this bill is nothing more than a cost increase to the average user of banks and brokerage houses. It excludes protection against risky annuities and includes protections for labor unions. In other words, it’s just another window dressing that today’s mainline media really won’t explain to the American public. A year from now, all we will have is the same banks running the same business the same way but making more money off us to pay into the government for this alleged “protection.”

Posted by: wantingbalance | July 16, 2010, 9:01 am 9:01 am

Better yet, REPEAL every piece of legislation these left-wing radical loons have crammed down the American peoples throat! We must change course in November if America is to survive. Stop buying into the mainstream, left-wing media’s propaganda, they’re in bed with the marxist-in-chief and his agenda! Choose FREEDOM!

Posted by: rkm63 | July 16, 2010, 9:48 am 9:48 am

Jonathon wrote” “A totally free market only breeds greed and consumer raping. I’d rather have a fair market than a free market. Everyone has to follow rules. Business should be no different.”
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Very well said! That has been true since even before the ancient Romans invented the phrase “Caveat emptor” (let the buyer beware).
The TOP Capitalists today like Buffett and Soros say that while 100% Socialism has never worked, 100% Capitalism has never worked either.
Yet so many sheeple chant the words uttered by their special interest-owned policians because they can’t be bothered to actually study what’s being claimed. Their limited thinking notes that “Free Market” has the word “free” in it doesn’t it? So it must be good!

Posted by: The_Mick | July 16, 2010, 9:59 am 9:59 am

Do people realize that this bill creates perpetual bailouts and sustains the “too big to fail” matra? Why do we need forced affirmative action in lending practices? Why does this bill fail to address Fannie or Freddie? Did you know Barney Franks partner/lover is an executive with Fannie? Probably not. Let’s just be stupid and keep blaming capitalism. BTW, Canada does not have a Fannie or Freddie, or forced lending to unqualified minorities. That might have a little bit to do with why they’re not in trouble.

Posted by: Rusty | July 16, 2010, 9:59 am 9:59 am

And when this too fails, it will be because it didn’t regulate enough…yeah, right.

Posted by: Haewood | July 16, 2010, 9:59 am 9:59 am

This is a bad bill. The two that cause the problem Fannie & Freddie are not mentioned. This will cost the consumer big time.

Posted by: cgent47 | July 16, 2010, 10:02 am 10:02 am

The SEC really did it’s job in the past few years. Now we are going to hire thousands of more Govt employees to watch porn and call it regulation and consumer protection. Who is protecting us from Govt…?

Posted by: Bigga Trust | July 16, 2010, 10:03 am 10:03 am

This bill is a gift to big banks, unions and progressive non-govermental groups. Few have really looked into the actual bill. It is window dressing that will hurt business. Too big to fail?… Let the market dismantle them not a government propped up zombie organization. Liberals are idiot short term thinkers.

Posted by: the forgotten man | July 16, 2010, 10:03 am 10:03 am

This bill is a gift to big banks, unions and progressive non-govermental groups. Few have really looked into the actual bill. It is window dressing that will hurt business. Too big to fail?… Let the market dismantle them not a government propped up zombie organization. Liberals are idiot short term thinkers.

Posted by: the forgotten man | July 16, 2010, 10:03 am 10:03 am

Jonathon,
Big difference between Canada and this bundle of paper is Canada has defined rules. This bundle of paper leaves out the rules (to be defined later) introducing uncertainty into the market. Business will not make decisions while this uncertainty remains and it will remain until bureaucrats set them. (Actually wasn’t congress supposed to do that. Thought we elected them for that reason.)
So yes Canada is doing well but their politicians are actually passing substantive laws not pieces of paper with writing that must be defined by unelected bureaucrats.

Posted by: Fred Flynt | July 16, 2010, 10:04 am 10:04 am

We ned to get back to our country’s Declaration of Independence. Why do people hate freedom and liberty? Rules and laws were created to give us freedom from government’s rule! Stand up for your liberty!

Posted by: thedude | July 16, 2010, 10:04 am 10:04 am

We are getting to the point here where an average citizen cannot walk thru his/her day without breaking some law or regulation. Not only should everything passed by this congress and president be repealed, every one of these criminals should be audited as to how they enriched themselves at the public trough in a job that pays less than $200k/year. The treason, yes treason going on is unbelievable.

Posted by: Anti Lie-o-crat | July 16, 2010, 10:05 am 10:05 am

The TOP Capitalists today like Buffett and Soros say that while 100% Socialism has never worked, 100% Capitalism has never worked either.
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TOP Capitalists ….. maybe until they made their fortunes. Now these two are the TOP socialists.

Posted by: Fred Flynt | July 16, 2010, 10:08 am 10:08 am

We haven’t had a free market in years. All this vaunted government regulation has failed. People seem to think that business people are corrupt but people in government or the bueracrates they put in place are above corrpution. They’re human and therefore subject to the same human failures.
The Obama administration is taking much of it’s marching orders from the Center For American Progress. This is a George Soros backed organization. Try looking into it, the BP oil spill, Petrobras oil owned by Brazil and the $2B the Obama administration is ready to lend to Petrobras for deep water drilling, while closing down our country’s off shore drilling operations.

Posted by: Art Bowie | July 16, 2010, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Let’s see…
we have the Feds controling: the financial industry, the healthcare industry, the educational system, the energy industry…
What kind of path do you think we as a country are on??

Posted by: grover | July 16, 2010, 10:09 am 10:09 am

Ok, so let’s see who remembers history… 50 years ago, the amount of regulation was miniscule compared to today. Banks loaned money to people who could pay the loans back. Those who couldn’t didn’t get loans. So, to FIX this problem, congress passed regulations to force banks to loan to people who couldn’t afford them. When the banks followed this regulation, and things fell apart (who’s surprised that it did, eh?) then the same folks who made the regulations that forced the banks to give bad loans in the first place decided that the problem was that more regulation was needed to prevent it. From where I stand, this entire debacle looks like creation of a problem (by congress) in order to be able to regulate what was already being self-regulated before our elected officials got involved.
Sorry, but I just can’t put the blame completely on the banks – greed or no, the only winners (as is true in so much of our society) are the lawyers and the government. The people lose, the banks lose and ultimately, society as a whole loses.

Posted by: Doug | July 16, 2010, 10:11 am 10:11 am

Johnathon,
You realize there are over 500 undefined rules in this bundle of paper. That doesn’t even include the rules that overlap similar areas but are going to be defined by different bureaucrats.
What a nightmare to have two sets of rules that apply to the same area with two sets of people defining them.

Posted by: Fred Flynt | July 16, 2010, 10:12 am 10:12 am

It is a shame that People Actually believe there was no or to little REGULATION leading to this financial disaster. Goes to show how fools like Obama get elected.
Why do you think Companies like GE, BP, GOLDMAN SACKS etc… Historically Support Dems. (I’ll HELP YOU) Dems protect them through their REGULATIONS that give them unfair advantages over their smaller competitors. AND NOW THEY ARE ALL TOO BIG TO FAIL! and have backing of the US Tax payer while their smaller competitors do not.
Obama, Pelosi and other Dems leader may understand what they are doing. The Posters here are most likely only USE FULL IDIOTS.

Posted by: Dr.Who? | July 16, 2010, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Financial Reform: A FED POWER GRAB
The very people who gave us this “great recession” in the first place–Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703722804575369072934590574.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLETopStories

Posted by: mountainaires | July 16, 2010, 10:19 am 10:19 am

This WILL be repealed..just like all of Obama’s other terrible and illegal pieces of trash legislation.

Posted by: Ed | July 16, 2010, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Benedict Brown, get back in your truck and go back under the rock you came from. You are a TRAITOR to your State, your Party and your Country!

Posted by: Charles | July 16, 2010, 10:22 am 10:22 am

What, even George Stephanopoulos can’t write proper English now? Check usage of “sighted”. The proper word in that sentence would be “cited.”
Perhaps this example is part of what’s behind Columbia Journalism President Lee Bollinger’s call for government funding of the media. When (some) journalism gets so bad no one wants to pay for it, force taxpayers to, with the coercive power of government.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 16, 2010, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Jonathan-
You are a socialist; an even more dangerous one than those forced into socialism in Canada…even as they revolt and come to America for healthcare and other goods and services in record numbers…..WAKE UP…
Margaret Thatcher–“The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.”

Posted by: freddy | July 16, 2010, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Liberal/socialists of the Democrat party are destroying America. They are the enemy within. Islam is the enemy on the outside moving in. It’s over folks and I hope the Pelosi’s, Dodd’s, Frank’s, Reid’s and the hideous Obama muslims will suffer the most from their evil deeds.

Posted by: Exjupiter | July 16, 2010, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Joseph Stack, there are almost 80,000 pages of regulations in the Federal Register. Government has been relentlessly growing throughout the post-WWII era, except for a few years where Reagan held its growth down. Anyone who says Republicans are in favor of no regs on business is either a naked partisan, or a fool. Which are you?

Posted by: Anna Keppa | July 16, 2010, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Of course this bill favors the rich bankers at the top of the food chain… They own the congress and senate, so it stands to reason they benefit…
We haven’t had a representative form of government for a long, long time. If you want one, you’ll need to buck up and get ready to fight for one

Posted by: Mark | July 16, 2010, 10:27 am 10:27 am

Even if you do not believe Freddy and Fanny didn’t cause the financial melt down. You must admit they are certainly an UNDENIABLE problem with their mismanagement and REPEATED need for BAILOUTS. WHY didn’t the dems want to REGULATE THEM MORE? Could be because of the sweetheart deals they are getting from them?

Posted by: Dr.Who? | July 16, 2010, 10:28 am 10:28 am

aah,advise from Republicans who, in eight years, got our country to the brink of another DEPRESSION?! Priceless!!

Posted by: rkcomments | July 16, 2010, 10:29 am 10:29 am

What’s a shame is that people can’t or won’t see that both parties are actually the same. They are just different factions of the same party!!!!

Posted by: Cereallover196 | July 16, 2010, 10:30 am 10:30 am

There is no freaking free market so that can’t be the problem. Sheesh.
I heard an interview with a Canadian official who indicated that Canadian banks could have engaged in the kind abuses that occurred here but chose not to. It is partly a cultural thing. And largely the fact that Canada has no Barney Frank and no corrupt fannie and freddie leading the system to give credit where it is NOT due.

Posted by: Jake | July 16, 2010, 10:32 am 10:32 am

The Mick= When has there ever been 100% capitalism?
So when & where did Buffett say that “100% capitalism never worked”?
You just made that up.

Posted by: Susan | July 16, 2010, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Fannie mae and freddie mac are in bed with the government. Thats all you have to know. Big brother (barney frank and chriss dodd) have been working with FM and FM to get political votes. That’s all this is about. Now with this bill they will have power to shut down any business they want unless the business scratches their backs.

Posted by: frank | July 16, 2010, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Does this mean I will have to raise my hand and wait for POTUS to let me use the bathroom?

Posted by: need to go | July 16, 2010, 10:34 am 10:34 am

Hey Jonathon, you ever seen how much tax Canadians pay? Go order a beer in Canada, you’ll pay twice as much as in the USA and half of it is an alcohol tax.

Posted by: Phil | July 16, 2010, 10:34 am 10:34 am

rkcomments
You do know that the Democrats have been running the economy sense they won the house back in 2006 right?

Posted by: Dr.Who? | July 16, 2010, 10:34 am 10:34 am

We need to vote these progressives out of office! They are destroying this country – people wake up! The lame/mainstream media is misleading you – Please do your homework and get information from other sources before it is too late!

Posted by: Wake up | July 16, 2010, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Ye, Repel it. Repel the Financial Bill, the Health Care Reform Bill (Obamacare), the Stimulus Bill and anything else this fraud of a President passed through a corupt congress. The Repel Obama. How about an investigation into what Obama is doing in Kenya? Obama is using US Funds to push a new Kenyan Constitution that proposes Islamic rule over the citizens and throughs out Democracy.

Posted by: Peter King | July 16, 2010, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Maybe the greedy bankers will think twice before destroying our economy again. Those of you defending the financial services industry after what they’ve done to this country need your heads examined.

Posted by: bankers suck | July 16, 2010, 10:40 am 10:40 am

Dodds and Frank caused the first meltdown. Look it up. Look at what rules they repealed. Bush warned 17 times it needed to be fix. Both parties are guilty. Rep were in power and did not listen to the Bush. The Dems are just creating bigger Government than creating good laws.
I hope you all know food will now go through the roof. This bill hurts the farmers and their bottom line. I hope you know that!

Posted by: IDB | July 16, 2010, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Wow, some of you sound like you just graduated from Glenn Beck University. This must be linked to the Drudge Report.

Posted by: bankers suck | July 16, 2010, 10:43 am 10:43 am

bankers suck
They are protecting the Bankers why do you think the financial institution like Goldman Sachs got all the money. Do you think it was a coincidence after Goldman paid off Obama and other Dems?
NOW THEY ARE OFFICIALLY to big to FAIL and will get more TAX PAYER MONEY when required when their smaller competitors will not.

Posted by: Dr.Who? | July 16, 2010, 10:45 am 10:45 am

Heard this on the radio yesterday: To think that Chris Dodd and Barney Frank have crafted a financial reform bill is like Mel Gibson and OJ Simpson crafting a domestic abuse bill.

Posted by: CindyLou | July 16, 2010, 10:46 am 10:46 am

Who is protecting us from Government? Why are citizens so quick to believe that the elitists of the party in power have their best interests at heart?
You know what’s good for you and your family, not a group of amoral people in DC.
Remember in November…

Posted by: _ALDEBARAN_ | July 16, 2010, 10:47 am 10:47 am

bankers suck
“Wow, some of you sound like you just graduated from Glenn Beck University. This must be linked to the Drudge Report.”
When there is nothing of intelligence someone can respond with we get the above comments from the useful idiots.

Posted by: Dr.Who? | July 16, 2010, 10:47 am 10:47 am

This bill totally misses the cause of the financial meltdown. All it is was a power grab by the dems on the market place. Did yo know this bill includes regulation on hiring practices for minorities??? What does hiring practices have to do with the crisis we had??? Absolutley nothing. Businesses will not release capital into the economy for the do not know what will be be consequences due to the vague nature of the legislation.

Posted by: BigKev | July 16, 2010, 10:49 am 10:49 am

Everything Obama does is designed to DESTROY the US economy, transfer trillions to elite bankers and please his British puppet masters who tell him exactly what to do. Even the $8,000 housing tax credit was designed to protect the banks. Bush was horrible but Obama makes him look pretty good. I’m disgusted with BOTH PARTIES. It’s way past time for a viable THIRD PARTY.

Posted by: Steve | July 16, 2010, 10:49 am 10:49 am

We may be able to get rid of the Marxist Democrats who are in one party rule with the Commie Ostupid “who Sane”. But how will we get rid of the Democrat fools who vote these dictators into office?
NEVER EVER VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: doc | July 16, 2010, 10:49 am 10:49 am

Recall that when Republicans took control of Congress in 1994 one of their first acts was to delay approximately 250 regulations from being enacted. The left screamed that such was going to cause some form of chaos, although the only thing that happened was that more individuals and businesses experienced less intrusion from the federal government. Assuming that the Republicans prevail in November they need to take the exact same steps. Including a start-over on the ill-advised and over-regulated health care ‘reform’.

Posted by: Southwest | July 16, 2010, 10:51 am 10:51 am

This is precisely the reason why I can no longer be a republican. This bs about deregulation is simply intended to enrich wall street at teh expense of the public. The settlement with GS was a disgrace, it shoudl have been 10x bigger. Even wall street expected it, and when they got off so cheap the stock skyrocketed.
In the 80′s when republicans lost their way and started advocating all this deregulation is when everything started blowing up adn americas wealth began shitting to wall street players.
Bush’s boy Pualson, mad enearly a billion off of us paying his firm iwht TRAP money.
The only problem withthe bill is it doesn’t go far enough.
Understand I hate the democrat agenda, but am equally disgusted with republicans. All they do is enrich their cronies at our expenses.
No control over auto financing? it is the second largest purchase for the average amercian yet they are allowed and even encouraged to rip off consumers with less than full disclosure.
I can’t write more as it is remindeding me how Phil Gramm singlehandly destroyed america with deregulation.

Posted by: Nick Athens | July 16, 2010, 10:51 am 10:51 am

What we need is more Government. We have this branch or that branch looking into this group or that group-this company or that industry so why not hire all of us just to spy on each other? Everyone could become hall monitors, snitches, irs tattle tales etc. We could even have people to visit homes and report offenders that keep their temperatures at non Government recommended settings.And we could all get a big fat check from the Obama administration.
I saw you put too much salt on your too fat content hamburger! Whats your name?
Kaching.

Posted by: david | July 16, 2010, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Dems doing what they do best. Raise taxes and restrict freedom and liberty.
Dems regulation caused the banking mess and now they are doubling down for more.

Posted by: Charlie Drake | July 16, 2010, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Where are Dodds and Franks personel retirement accounts listed in this supposed reform dumBO? Or is Freddy, and Fanny just to big to fail?

Posted by: Todd | July 16, 2010, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Drudge Headline: “Obesity Rating ‘for Every American by 2014′…”
This FASCIST GOVERNMENT is going to tell every single American exactly what they can and can’t eat and no doubt require X amount of exercise every day. “Land of the Free”, “HOPE & CHANGE”??? what a sick joke. This is soon going to be the most OPPRESSED SOCIETY on earth. I’m 100% in favor of IMPEACHMENT right now because we won’t SURVIVE with Obama in power.

Posted by: Steve | July 16, 2010, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Liberals always chant “Power to the People,” People own and work for businesses yet they want Government to control business. I have owned and operated a business for 30 years. last year is the 1st time I lost money. I lost money, not because I wasn’t busy but because I am being taxed and regulated out of business. Bureaucrats who know nothing about my business show up for inspections, tell me what a great facility I have and how above and beyond my computerized record keeping is, then two weeks later I recieve a list of non compliance fines. F them! I don’t work to support the fracking government or to have my income redistributed, I work for my children. If the Communist redistribution of wealthy continues through Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the myriad of social redistribution schemes that are taxing me out of my home and business I will consider physically removing the Commiecrats from their entrenched offices. Power to the People!

Posted by: Richard Z | July 16, 2010, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Do you want to know a simple fact?
Here’s one:
The subprime mortgage loans could NEVER have grown into the enormously far reaching crisis it did if Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac did not drop their 20% down payment requirement.
Two follow-up questions:
Who’s responsible for allowing the 20% D.P. requirement to be dropped? (Answer: Rep. Barney Frank and Sen. Christopher Dodd)
Who in congress had the most influence
in designing the financial reform bill that has just passed? (Answer: Rep. Barney Frank and Sen. Christopeher Dodd)
Conclusion: WE ARE NOW IN MORE TROUBLE THAN EVER BEFORE!

Posted by: Tskm | July 16, 2010, 11:00 am 11:00 am

SOUTHWEST
“This is precisely the reason why I can no longer be a republican. This bs about deregulation is simply intended to enrich wall street”
This bill is enriching Wall Street by giving them the full protection of the U.S. taxpayer whenever they run into problems.
FREDDY and FANNY are not a part of this why are they being left alone if this is about stopping the enrichment of Wall Street?
It is because they already have the full backing of the U.S. Taxpayer. As proven by the repeated bailouts even after severe mismanagement.

Posted by: Dr.Who? | July 16, 2010, 11:01 am 11:01 am

We are being taken down the socialist/marxist path by the Democrats.
I hate the government as it is today.

Posted by: greg miller | July 16, 2010, 11:01 am 11:01 am

Why do liberals cry out POWER TO THE PEOPLE then try and continually empower the Federal Government?

Posted by: Dr.Who? | July 16, 2010, 11:07 am 11:07 am

I am for sensable regulation. Regulations that would pass 95% of the members of congress. For those that agree with this legislation. Which regulation specifically are you in favor of. Is it the governments right to seize control and mandate a breakup of any company they arbitrarily decide is a risk to the economy, with no concrete definition of what this means, which means whichever company they feel like. Or is it the mandate that the government bailout more bad mortgages? I am all for regulating and penalizing illegal activity, but explain to me how this is nothing more than an unregulated power grab and a serious financial exposure to the taxpayer.

Posted by: Jason | July 16, 2010, 11:08 am 11:08 am

What’s in the bill besides some fancy titles and acrynym’s? Anyone here have a good enough idea to explain them?

Posted by: signspeaker | July 16, 2010, 11:12 am 11:12 am

I don’t know why everyone keeps saying Canada did so well. I tried to get a job in Canada a few months ago and was unable to because of the recession, that people who had been given Visas years before were being rejected now for renewal because of it.
Canadian poverty rate rose 2.5%. More than 400,000 jobs were lost from Oct08-Oct09. Compare that to US’s 5.7 million, meaning CA would be about 1/14 the US, and remember, CA is about 1/9 the US pop. As the US was one of the hardest hit, I don’t think the difference here is big enough to say Canada did fine and was barely affected.

Posted by: E | July 16, 2010, 11:13 am 11:13 am

“The TOP Capitalists today like Buffett and Soros say that while 100% Socialism has never worked, 100% Capitalism has never worked either.”
What does “worked” mean? Does it mean the market always goes up, treasuries go up,real estate goes up, no one ever loses money on anything? How about 100% employment, no companies pollute at all, and all people are honest!
Do we only have Individual Rights when they “work”?

Posted by: dagny | July 16, 2010, 11:14 am 11:14 am

“Shelby sighted the lack of reform of Fannie……
George did he “cite or sight”?

Posted by: MADBUSA | July 16, 2010, 11:16 am 11:16 am

This bill makes sense only if you fail to realize that government regulations and political incentives encouraged and in some cases demanded that corporations make decisions based on politics and not sound business principles. Given that failing of understanding: what is the solution? Simple, give more power to the very group of politicians that required the bad behavior!
Contrary to every foaming mouth anti-capitalist leftist living an easy life here in the USA seems to believe, people who are against this bad bill are not advocating no regulations.. we are simply calling for smart regulations that deprives our own government the power to direct the economy based on politics. Face it people, if these elected fools could make money honestly they wouldn’t have gone into politics in the first place. Their control of the markets is simply their way of ‘beating’ a system that cannot succeed in through hard work.
So cheer on socialism and denigrate capitalism but know that you missed the root cause of the problem and are making things worse simply because you have decided on the easy solution (blaming everyone you don’t like) instead of implementing the best solution (looking at how our very system has been structured to encourage politically connected companies… see: Countrywide, BP, Enron, Worldcom, and now GM and Chrylser… to make suboptimal decisions in support of a political agenda.) But don’t worry, green jobs and technology have failed miserably in every country in Europe (they are building nukes at a startling rate) but I am sure it will work here… especially considering that we refuse to acknowledge that their is any problems that might want to address while we duplicate their failing system.
Yeah, this bill and this political philosophy is a ‘victory’ for America. If by victory you mean a short sighted mistake that will likely do as much harm as good.

Posted by: Matt in Chicago | July 16, 2010, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Zip
“What are you listening to, Grandpa? That’s Rush Limbaugh, kid. Grandpa, why do you listen to a drug addict?”
Again, Proof of the intellectual level of the die hard obama supporter. It is a sad thing to see but this is what they have been reduced to.

Posted by: Dr.Who? | July 16, 2010, 11:19 am 11:19 am

When is someone going to stand up and say wwhat really got us into this mess and is STILL going on!!! Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae guaranteeing loans to unqualaified home “buyers” – all pushed by the Community Reinvestment Act, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and the liberal Dems – and it continues to day- and WORSE! Now the FHA is guaranteeing sub prime loans with as little as 4% down!! One small downturn in RE and bingo – the “homeowners” are under water!! Geesh – stop blaming private business and accept responsibility. NONE of these loans would have been made by a private business – too risky. But backed by GOVERNMENT guarantees? Full speed ahead. Socialsim – government engineeering of the economy will be our ultimate and ruinous downfall.

Posted by: Larry Gorman | July 16, 2010, 11:20 am 11:20 am

These aweful new laws give the handful of big banks within the Federal Reserve(a private corporation) the power take over small banks and companies when they deem them “wea”. This is a crime, it was the big banks that the politicians voted to steal money from the US Citizens and give to the big banks, AGI, GM, Crysler, etc..
Repeal this Criminal bill!

Posted by: wildhorses | July 16, 2010, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Shelby sighted the lack of reform of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac
‘cited’ NOT ‘sighted’. Ye gods, journalists? HAH!

Posted by: PeteM | July 16, 2010, 11:22 am 11:22 am

Let’s split the country up. I’m not paying taxes ever again.

Posted by: grimer | July 16, 2010, 11:24 am 11:24 am

I AM A GLEN BECK UNIVERSITY GRADUATE & PROUD OF IT! Now I am taking post grad courses and consider myself VERY WELL EDUCATED! Wouldn’t hurt the rest of you destructive socialists out there to sign up….a better FREE AMERICA curriculum there is not.

Posted by: FreeDOOMED | July 16, 2010, 11:24 am 11:24 am

The “Financial Reform” bill was sponsored by the crooks who helped cause the crises; Dodd and Frank. Remember the Community Reinvestment Act? This was the tool that the DEMS used to force the banks to offer creative lending to HIGH RISK minority borrowers. In essence, the free market system with its checks and balances was bypassed in order to provide “economic justice” to borrowers who would normally not qualify for a mortgage. This is a farce and disgrace. The only ones that benefit from this legislation are unions that get a position on the corporate boards. Shame on the DEMS and any RHINOs that voted for this legistlation.

Posted by: Bill | July 16, 2010, 11:27 am 11:27 am

This WILL create jobs ! MANY MANY MANY jobs!
GOVERNMENT JOBS !
The government is desperately trying to compensate for the REAL ‘high paying’ jobs lost in tech and manufacturing by making government bigger.
When people say they don’t like a bigger government, what they really mean is they don’t want more government jobs.
In ten years there will only be a few millionaires left and millions more in government. All watching the millionaires to see if they can shake more money out of what’s left of the population so they can keep adding more government jobs.

Posted by: Dennis | July 16, 2010, 11:28 am 11:28 am

OK, let’s review how successful the past decade was for the Middle Class: Our government freed big oil, the insurance companies, and Wall Street of the “burdens” of government accountability. Did that economic policy of deregulating big Corporations and cutting taxes for the wealthy “trickle down” to Family Wage jobs?
NO. During the Bush era, the economy built a pathetic 3 million new jobs, the worst job creation since records have been kept. Why should we believe people who say, once again, that deregulation and the “invisible hand” of the market will magically turn our economy around and create new jobs?
Those policies systematically transferred wealth from the middle class to the wealthiest 10% of Americans. At the end of the housing bubble boom, middle class family incomes were LOWER than when Bush took office. And by 2007, 72% of our nation’s wealth was concentrated in the hands of the top 10%. Why aren’t the tea partiers howling about THIS redistribution? Why are they not complaining about government policies that knee-capped Middle Class jobs while the top tier benefited?

Posted by: green.goddess | July 16, 2010, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Layoff the liberals first…they voted for these idiots…let them live off the dole they are creating.

Posted by: godsmotive | July 16, 2010, 11:29 am 11:29 am

Shelby “cited” the lack of reform not sighted. Unless he was looking through a telescope

Posted by: george | July 16, 2010, 11:30 am 11:30 am

How is it that a Bill by Dodd and Barney can solve any financial problem when they were part of the root cause for the housing market colapse?

Posted by: Dave Austin | July 16, 2010, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Been reading this bill. Not sure why so many democrats voted for this bill. This is a very bad bill and does not deal with the problems they claimed that is did. In fact, I personally think this is a dangerous bill that gives too much power and control to whatever party is in power. I would support repeal.

Posted by: ReggieP | July 16, 2010, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac are what caused the entire problem and yet nothing is done to them as they are defacto government agencies.
Only thing this bill does is hurt private banking. The very banking industry the Bush should have let fail along with Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac.
Would it have hurt? Yes. Would we be over by now? Maybe. Would we be further along in a recovery then we are now? YES YES YES.

Posted by: Forcedsignup | July 16, 2010, 11:32 am 11:32 am

There’s a very good article in the Washington Times by Patrice Hill that spells out some of the huge problems with this bill, unseen in any other media. They have been very remiss in explaining this bill to the public.

Posted by: Gary | July 16, 2010, 11:33 am 11:33 am

“Shelby sighted the lack of reform of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac as well as the formation of a consumer protection agency, calling it the creation “of one of the largest bureaucracies” in years.”
George, please, it is “Shelby CITED….”
Could we at least have proper word choice in your news articles???

Posted by: c | July 16, 2010, 11:34 am 11:34 am

A NOVEMBER TO REMEMBER……. HISTORIC SWEEP JOB OF THE LOONY LEFT.

Posted by: Jay T | July 16, 2010, 11:36 am 11:36 am

This is legislation that requires faith, since (as usual for the Dems) no one has even read it before voting. With congress’ approval ratings in the teens, such faith does not exist and for very good reason.
We’re DOOOOOMED….

Posted by: JacqueBauer | July 16, 2010, 11:36 am 11:36 am

“Sighted” Not Cited? Is this some British English usage I’m not familiar with? Seriously, does the ABC news group require any education these days other than a liberal mindset.

Posted by: Peterman | July 16, 2010, 11:37 am 11:37 am

green.goddess
Actually no. Actually after Bush inherited a mild recession from Clinton and took a huge economic hit on 9/11. He was able to right the economy very quickly with his tax cuts etc… maintaining 5% unemployment which under the previous president was considered FULL EMPLOYMENT.
The problem with BP wasn’t the lack of regulation it was the lack of ENFORCEMENT of current regulations, even under Obama.
Doesn’t matter how many regulation you create if you don’t enforce them. Like with immigration.

Posted by: Dr.Who? | July 16, 2010, 11:38 am 11:38 am

“Sighted” not “cited”….its called the dumbing down of America, beginning with “SIGHT” words

Posted by: FreeDOOMED | July 16, 2010, 11:39 am 11:39 am

Jonathon – Business does follow rules, when they know what the rules are. What about the government? While they’re demonstrably incapable of consistently following existing rules, they’re busy coming up with new ones nobody’s had a chance to properly review.

Posted by: ICompelYou | July 16, 2010, 11:40 am 11:40 am

Two joints for breakfast and a nasty addiction to MSNBC and suddenly the social workers think they know about earning money instead of wasting other peoples. Roll off your boyfriend and take a bath comrade.

Posted by: george | July 16, 2010, 11:44 am 11:44 am

We are changing everything back in November. Let them do as they wish for now.

Posted by: SeanPatriot | July 16, 2010, 11:44 am 11:44 am

@Dr. Who
Very well said; the Obama Admin has allowed banks to privatize profits and socialize losses (tax payer bailouts). The banks do not have to lend to consumers and businesses because they get very low interest loans from the taxpayers. The government also has required that the banks increase their capital reserve ratios to extended credit, so now you see credit lines cut or closed on business and consumers.

Posted by: soundsolutions | July 16, 2010, 11:44 am 11:44 am

So, another major piece of legislation, more unanswered questions and it sounds like the unintended consequences will outweight the good. All in all it looks like an eceonomy buster and coupled with the healthcare bill, the trillion dollar deficeit, the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, and the moritorium on drilling, we are in deep, deep trouble; thank you to all the Democrats that support thiasa Presidents agenda.

Posted by: toledofan | July 16, 2010, 11:45 am 11:45 am

RULES FOR RADICALS BY SAUL ALINSKY. Is it the word RULES, or RADICALS, or ALINSKY, or the COMBINATION you won’t post?

Posted by: FreeDOOMED | July 16, 2010, 11:46 am 11:46 am

Every bill that O has signed should be repealed. After all, he’s not even a legitimate president.

Posted by: Dan Mc | July 16, 2010, 11:46 am 11:46 am

All I can say is I hate the people running government and the country into the ground. Die a long and protracted painful death everyone of you pathetic leaches. I wouldn’t give them a penny’s worth of help if I they were on the street and hurting. “Disgust” for these worthless bags of filth just doesn’t quite express my sentiments.

Posted by: Dave 2009 | July 16, 2010, 11:47 am 11:47 am

No it is not real reform, but some reform, is better than none.
Let’s face it…..the rich, and in that I include just about everyone in our government (earned honestly or dishonestly), should not be allowed to injure the not-rich, just because they are in the government.
I will agree that jobs are the most important thing, but let’s face it….profits are up, productivity is up, and companies still are not hiring.
It is going to take taxes on business, to change that. That is up to business of course. They have the power to hire, instead, if they are willing.
It is time for business to get back to, the basic premise that it is in their best interest, to employ people, and provide well being for families, just as much as it is to provide return for shareholders.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | July 16, 2010, 11:47 am 11:47 am

I am a Canadian and a proud one. We are not having the issues you Americans are having – basically the Canadian economy and the people within it continues to outpace most of the world, keeping up with the news on Canada’s banks and the Canadian economy in general is essential. We are leading the world out of recession and the rest of the world envy our banking system. Please follow our model.

Posted by: AEJ | July 16, 2010, 11:50 am 11:50 am

All that needed to be done was to repeal the “community re-investment act” and tighten up loan requirements to where they were 20 years ago, that’s when I bought my first house. It was tough to qualify for a loan, and that’s a good thing. Not everyone SHOULD qualify. That’s just life. Now there is an expectation that anyone should be able to qualify for a $400K house. That’s how we got here. This bill is a mess. It doesn’t deal with any of the issues that got us here. Maxine Waters filled it up with quotas for minorities and women and put in penalties for “descriminatory” practices by ANY contractor or sub-contractor dealing with any part of the financial sector. It creates huge agencies which do nothing but go on witch hunts for discrimination, even that which is unintentional and unknown to businesses it will persecute.

Posted by: scott | July 16, 2010, 11:52 am 11:52 am

You Democrats need to face the fact that the free markets did not cause the recent meltdown. It was the government’s involvement in the financial market that caused the collapse and now they’re at it again!
If a business doesn’t treat people right we vote with our wallet. That business can’t force us to do business with them, BUT the government CAN force us to business with them!!! They can tax and regulate and TAKE from us.
Also, If you are a white male “cracker” or are married to one and rely on him for support then look out! This bill puts more quotas in the hiring and promotion of women and minorities!

Posted by: Tim | July 16, 2010, 11:54 am 11:54 am

ABC may be MSM but they certainly have a GREAT user-comment forum. FOX’s is PATHETIC!

Posted by: FreeDOOMED | July 16, 2010, 11:54 am 11:54 am

Dodd and Frank creating a bill to fix a problem that they created, and to heap regulations on the banking industry because some people are too stupid to understand the contracts they enter.
Wow. Dems have succesfully dumbed down this country to a point where these things are allowed to happen.

Posted by: James | July 16, 2010, 11:54 am 11:54 am

Thank you ABC

Posted by: FreeDOOMED | July 16, 2010, 11:56 am 11:56 am

We only get one crack at this come November. If you want to start repealing back every LOONEY piece of legislation this administration and liberal/socialist democrats have done, then take every able body you can to the polls with you and vote them out this mid-term election! Let’s just make it a CONSERVATIVE TIDAL WAVE like never seen before in this country!

Posted by: Dan | July 16, 2010, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Are people dense? There were plenty of rules that regulate Wall Street. The problem is nobody in government was enforcing the rules already on the books. It is like “immigration reform” – why bother with new rule when nobody enforces the rules on the books?
If the SEC would have just audited the 10-Ks and 10-Qs of the Banks, Wall Street, fannie, freddie, etc in the late 90s they would have seen the balance sheets were already loading up on toxic debt and would have forced a restatement of earnings which would have nipped this in the bud.
I suggest that SEC employees should be forced to personally pay the goldman sachs fine – at least half of it. It a private entity screws up they get nailed but if government screws up they get a pass.
BTW the real reason Canada is doing so well is that it is not afraid to develop its natural resources and export. In the USA we are sitting on mountains of coal, oceans of oil and trillions and trillions of CuFt of Natural Gas. Plus we invented nuclear energy. In stead we give a hundred million taxpayer dollars to a private company in Michigan that will “create” a few hundred so-called “green energy” jobs.
We are insane.

Posted by: Lester | July 16, 2010, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

It will take us 50 years to fix what this administration is doing. what a mess this is becoming.

Posted by: len | July 16, 2010, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Let the free markets work. This bill is bad bad bad.

Posted by: CongressSucks | July 16, 2010, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

REPublicans will
REPlace Democrats, then
REPeal all the BS.

Posted by: KRJ | July 16, 2010, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

This administration is so wrong on so many levels…We need to start the impeachment process on this dude for lack of confidence.
It doesn’t matter whether he knows what he’s doing and this is all planned and calculated or he is an absolute incompetent bafoon… He needs to go!! 2012 is too far away to wait.

Posted by: CUInNovember | July 16, 2010, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

Who wrote about Canada system knows nothing about the Canadian banking system, the left has been screaming that the repeal of glass segal (regulation) was a cause for the crisis, too bad Canada repealed their version of Glass segal a decade before the US.
Second they sight that it’s because of monopoly of big banks, while the US has hundreds of banks Canada only has 5 banks in the whole country, that’s it.
What saved Canada is we don’t have a democrat party who implemented a Community Reinvestment Act, or Clinton who reinforced it in 95′ and then authorized in 97′ that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac who at most securitized a couple hundred billion increased their lending capacity to a couple trillion, so that banks would have no excuse not to lead to people who didn’t have the income to qualify for mortgages because Fannie and Freddie would take the risky loans onto their balance sheet.
In Canada regulators ONLY worry about risk, they aren’t in the business of social engineering or to guarantee everyone has a right to own their own home.
That’s why for the last 60 years Canada and the US both had 65% of the public as home owners until around 95″ to 06′ the US grew to 68% of the population as home owners , and that 3% should never have qualified and wouldn’t have if democrats had never had power to make laws and it’s that 3% that took the country down with them.

Posted by: sam | July 16, 2010, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Everytime a federal agency fails it gets more power and ability to screw even more things up. Yeah that makes sense. Capitalism works if you let it. Companies only get too big to fail if you take away the concequences of failure. Also anyone here ever hear of the depression of 1920? Most likely not because of how we got out of it. Taxes were cut to give more people more money in their pockets. Spending was cut to avoid huge deficits. What was the result? The roring 20′s, one of the most prosperous times in US history. This turn around time was a horribly long time of 1 YEAR. At the end of the 20′s another Progressive was voted in and we had the crash of 29 and the decade long depression after that where government spending and taxes were greatly increased. I wonder which way is better.

Posted by: Nate | July 16, 2010, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

AIG has 400 regulators assigned to the company during the crash. How well did they protect you? Administration officials want to sue AZ but admitted to not reading an 11 page law by AZ. What are the chances these idiots even read a handful of the 2300 pages of this bill. Obama talks about credit card and mortgage companies writing clear contracts for consumers….why can’t they do the same thing for the legislation they write. There has never been a time in history where an over-bearing gov’t has proven positive for growth. As far as free markets, the gov’t has not allowed it in our lifetime so claims that free markets or capitalism failed us is absurd.

Posted by: Gwen | July 16, 2010, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Dr.Who? | Jul 16, 2010 11:38:42 AM posted: “Actually after Bush inherited a mild recession from Clinton and took a huge economic hit on 9/11. He was able to right the economy very quickly with his tax cuts etc… maintaining 5% unemployment which under the previous president was considered FULL EMPLOYMENT.”
According to the wsj:
Jobs at the beginning of the Bush term: 132.5 Million
Jobs at the end of the Bush term: 135.5 Million
Payroll expansion: 2.3%
True, President George W. Bush entered office in 2001 just as a mild recession was starting, and left in the middle of a nasty one that began on his watch, 2007. That’s almost 22 months of recession during his 96 months in office.
Bush may have used tax cuts to “right the economy” after 9/11, but these policies only created 3 Million new jobs in 8 years. Clearly, jobs did not “trickle down” from Supply Side tax cuts. 3 Million new jobs looks like treading water, not building an economic engine that grows jobs as new workers enter the work force.

Posted by: green.goddess | July 16, 2010, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

BTW, Canada does not have a Fannie or Freddie, or forced lending to unqualified minorities. That might have a little bit to do with why they’re not in trouble. Posted by: Rusty | Jul 16, 2010 9:59:48 >>>>>>>>>>> Rusty — -way to blame the housing crisis on minorities. So, no unqualified white people got those loans, huh?

Posted by: MsT-mac | July 16, 2010, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

Help! November can not come soon enough to save this wonderful country of ours.

Posted by: Freedom | July 16, 2010, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

What will Obama take control of next? How big will this government grow? Business is seen and evil and the only good is the government – all seeing and all knowing. They’ve done such a good job regulating Social Security, Fannie and Freddie, Medicare, Defense spending, energy policies, Unemployment “Insurance”, Welfare, etc. Let’s turn them loose to screw up Wall Street. My 401k started tanking the day after Obama’s election (not when He took office).

Posted by: Sfoxe | July 16, 2010, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

The unemployed will remember in Nov.who cut them off!

Posted by: steve | July 16, 2010, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

Starting 2013, Obama has sneaked in a 3.8% sales tax ($3,800. @ $100K) on the sale of your home to force you to pay for his healthcare he shoved down our throats. I’m sure there will be a lot more “extortion” taxes hidden in the 2,800 plus page pile of Socialist garbage that no one read. Source: Busness Week, Bloomberg, etc.

Posted by: Mike | July 16, 2010, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

EDITORS: It’s CITED, not SIGHTED. I’m sure there are plenty of people with better proofreading skills out there looking for work. Terrible.

Posted by: grammarnag | July 16, 2010, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

I am a big fan of this guy and a proud member of the Tee Party. I agree that Dems are destroying the country by tring to protect ourselves against us. Living in Montana, I can tell you that Shelby ought to be repealing speeding laws out here too. God knows that it takes me forever tio drive wherever I go. Who ever got a job because of these stinkin speeding laws. Go Shelby!

Posted by: Ricardo | July 16, 2010, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

Any financial bill sponsored by the likes of Dodd, Frank, Pelosi on its face is questionable, but the support of Sen Brown who was sent to DC to stop this socialist train, well, that’s what really hurts us in MA who voted for him. Shame on you Sen Brown!

Posted by: Bobd45 | July 16, 2010, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Canada is a joke! They have less than a tenth of the US economy. Funny Canada start about the same time as the U.S but they are second rate country. The the #1 US econonmy and world super power due to our political and economy system.
source – CIA Fact Book
Canada’s Rank Country GDP (PPP) $M
— World 70,290,000
1 United States 14,260,000
2 People’s Republic of China 8,789,000
3 Japan 4,137,000
4 India 3,560,000
5 Germany 2,811,000
6 United Kingdom 2,149,000
7 Russia 2,116,000
8 France 2,110,000
9 Brazil 2,025,000
10 Italy 1,760,000
11 Mexico 1,482,000
12 Spain 1,368,000
13 South Korea 1,356,000
14 Canada 1,285,000

Posted by: aedams | July 16, 2010, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Jonothon, you are showing a great deal of ignorance in your post.
Comparing Canada’s market to USA’s is ludicrous.
Not to mention, Canada’s quality of life is FAR lower than the U.S.
I recommend you do some research on the aforementioned before spouting off liberal talking points with no validity/backing in your grandiose statements.
If you feel the need to be policed, harangued a great deal more, pull up your tent stakes and go North my ill- advised friend.
Intelligence is limited. Ignorance is infinite.

Posted by: markit8dude | July 16, 2010, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

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After the tax cuts, jobs increased by 8.1 million. Using Obama logic, I guess Bush could say he “created or saved” 20 million jobs. I’m not a fan of Bush but he did inherit a recession and 9/11 did serious damage to the economy.

Posted by: Gwen | July 16, 2010, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

The legislation hits medium and small sized banks, whose costs for compliance increases their costs of loaning proportionally higher than the too-big-to-fails.

Posted by: JM | July 16, 2010, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

Canada? Canada is great shape? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Canada is a mess, they have no economic growth at all, and everyone is havig their money confiscated so they can support a fail universal healthcare system that doesn’t work!
So, now America is heading down the same path. Government gets stronger, more intrusive, and now they can monitor every signle financial transaction I make. I ask… WHY? Why do they need to know what every American is doing? To what cause? If you planned on suppressing a population, you’ll need to know where they are and what they’re doing. Maybe it’s to see just how many people are arming themselves, hmmm? Gonna know exactly where to go to get the guns, when they come for our guns?
Liberalism is the vehicle in which evil can flourish in a secular environment.

Posted by: Rizz917 | July 16, 2010, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

July 15, 2010 Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:00:00 GMT 11:07 PM EST
by John Lott
Opinion
Obama’s Financial ‘Reform’ Doesn’t Fix Anything

Posted by: beez | July 16, 2010, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

I used to have a Basset that looked a lot like Shelby but the dog was way more intelligent

Posted by: JR | July 16, 2010, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

green.goddess
The point you seem to miss is that Bush maintain nearly Full employment. Of course there was a big increase in employment. The vast majority were already employed.

Posted by: Dr.Who? | July 16, 2010, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

If we just had more freedom fries.

Posted by: Zip | July 16, 2010, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Dr Who
Bush didn’t inherit a recession? A collapse of the stock market and terrorist attacks? All in the first nine months of his election? I love how you filthy leftist pig people try and rewrite history. Just like you want to rewrite bank accounts, you make me sick. Get off the PC and go get on a welfare line, what am I paying taxes for anyway?

Posted by: Rizz917 | July 16, 2010, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

Dr Who
Bush didn’t inherit a recession? A collapse of the stock market and terrorist attacks? All in the first nine months of his election? I love how you filthy leftist pig people try and rewrite history. Just like you want to rewrite bank accounts, you make me sick. Get off the PC and go get on a welfare line, what am I paying taxes for anyway?

Posted by: Rizz917 | July 16, 2010, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

green.goddess
“True, President George W. Bush entered office in 2001 just as a mild recession was starting, and left in the middle of a nasty one that began on his watch, 2007. That’s almost 22 months of recession during his 96 months in office. ”
Thank you for being honest about the first part – even though you seem to be dismissing 9\11 impact on the economy.
But, you along with quite a few other Liberals seem to also be forgetting the Democrats have been controlling the budget and economy sense 2006.

Posted by: Dr.Who? | July 16, 2010, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

It is not clear what drug all the people on the right are taking. It is sad state of affairs and, clearly, they have too much time on their hands or are being subsidized for writing these replies. Obama is doing an amazing job in the face of challenges at home and abroad. We clearly have only one Constitutional provision and that is the second amendment. I guess if you can’t win the repeal of abortion, you will just arm yourselves as a way of showing you are pro-life. Sorry, today I’m wondering if our country has gone to heck in a handbasket or if we still have a day or two.

Posted by: Mom | July 16, 2010, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Green Goddess
“policies only created 3 Million new jobs in 8 years. Clearly, jobs did not “trickle down” from Supply Side tax cuts. 3 Million new jobs looks like treading water, not building an economic engine that grows jobs as new workers enter the work force.”
Again you forget Bush unemployment rate on average was about 5% – of course he didn’t create massive amounts of new jobs. We was no one left to employee!

Posted by: Dr.Who? | July 16, 2010, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

I am praying that we find Bobby Ewing in the shower again and that all of these nonsensical economy killing, government empowerng, freedom quashing bills are all a bad dream…

Posted by: Alien Fred | July 16, 2010, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

The government should just be involved in banking to prevent fraud. This goes way too far and sets up a number of regulatory bodies comprised of people who got us into this mess to begin with. Yes, repeal is an option.

Posted by: Lawrence | July 16, 2010, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Once again with the help of three RINO’s who also did not read the bill. Have once again helped the Democrats bring us one step closer to an economical meltdown.. I hope all you folks in Maine and Massachusetts remember these folks while watching our economy collapse, thanks to their votes….

Posted by: Charles Moore | July 16, 2010, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Once again, the GOP is the party of NO.

Posted by: Jim Bob | July 16, 2010, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

Okay, so Canada has done well with their banking rules, so here’s an idea.. why doesn’t the US make their rules similar to Canada’s? It’s much easier to find something that works and copy it than to start from scratch.

Posted by: Cartman | July 16, 2010, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

3 million new jobs? Sorry, it was way more than that. Supply side economics is what gave us the greatest economic growth in human history, bar none. The Treasury took in more tax receipts than ever before, there’s a reason for that. The unemployment average was under 5%, lower than Clintons 8 years.
You leftist retards, you know nothing about economics, nothing. We have the most liberal, progressive ideologue leadership in history, doing what all these leftists want done, so far he’s lost 6 million jobs since he took office, and it’s only heading south… it ain’t getting any better, I assure you.
Come November, there’s going to be a clean sweep. We’re taking out the trash, I can’t wait.

Posted by: Rizz917 | July 16, 2010, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

The issue in America is not really about regulation, although too much is a bad thing, the problem is really about intervention.
The government steps in and tells banks they have to start making loans they would never have done which in turn causes an uptrend in mortgages, houses being built, etc which in turn causes an artificial boom in a sectory of the economy which normally would not have happened on its own. This eventually pops, as all bubbles do, and then the government uses this very crisis to in turn pass more regulations and intervene more, causing this to happen again and again.
This is true when the government steps in and bails out certain sectors over others, it causes bubbles and it causes confusion because investors and business owners don’t know whether they can or should expand.
It only takes a little bit of research to see that this is the problem. So while you liberals “celebrate” this disaster, sit back and watch as the next set of bubbles and crashes are created, thanks to you.

Posted by: Marc M | July 16, 2010, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

Yes Jim, we are the party of NO.
A party should say NO when the policy is detrimental.
Change isn’t always for the better. Our constitution is a wonderful document and it took us from being a gang or rebels to the greatest nation on earth in under 100 years, it doesn’t need much change.
It’s the CHANGE which has caused our problems.

Posted by: Marc M | July 16, 2010, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

To think that the horrible people that got Fannie and Freddy into insolvency to the tune of trillions of dollars and AIG that insured the loans trillions are now smiling about screwiing up the american banking industry again..needs to be prison time for these criminals

Posted by: bigbiz2 | July 16, 2010, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

> Shelby sighted the lack of reform …
I think you mean “cited.”

Posted by: Korla Pundit | July 16, 2010, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

Dr.Who? | Jul 16, 2010 1:24:05 PM posted: “Again you forget Bush unemployment rate on average was about 5% – of course he didn’t create massive amounts of new jobs.”
The economy needs to add roughly 1.5 Million new jobs EACH YEAR just to keep pace with new workers entering the market. Building 3 Million new jobs over 8 years isn’t enough. That created a jobs crisis, part of this Recession.
We remain with a jobs crisis. The fact that things are getting better most months, then worse in some months, obscures both how bad the situation is and how rapid our jobs improvement has to be to really make a dent in it.
Republicans have no appetite to try to intervene in this crisis in any further way except to go back to the policies that did not build enough jobs to keep pace with new workers, much less create enough jobs to re-employ those millions already out of work.

Posted by: green.goddess | July 16, 2010, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

I really have to laugh at the imbecile that would rather live under a “fair” market then a free one. People who want government intervention in every aspect of there financial (and social) lives are weak minded slaves. Keep preaching what the left tells you.

Posted by: Brian | July 16, 2010, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

To all who complain, Paul Revere did make the ride to announce that the enemy was coming. But, he didn’t stop there. He then joined the fight. So, START getting involved with WHATEVER politician you have; left, right or center and of whatever party. Tell them what you think and how you plan to vote based on how they DO vote. Send money, even small amounts to the folks who are fighting for you. And, pray for those defending this country from tyranny. REPEAL EVERYTHING AND GUT THE GOVERNMENT NOW. The problem is “they is us” as Pogo would say. You can’t expect people to leave your special project alone and only gut theirs. So, man up and get rid of ALL of the socialist welfare programs for individuals and businesses and governments (foreign or state). Take an economic ax to the system until we the taxpayers can bear the weight of it.

Posted by: JimB | July 16, 2010, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

It would appear that this is more legislation that provides more government, more uncertainty in the market, and less jobs.
Dobbs has even said they are not sure what this bill will do. How do they even write these bills if they don’t understand what they are proposing? The answer is that outside consultants are writing the bills and not the representatives that we voted for.
We have ceased to have a government for the people and by the people. ALL politicians are bought and sold at the expense of America.

Posted by: Kerry | July 16, 2010, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

It’s hilarious to read comments by obviously left-wing Liberals who know neither what is Socialism and what is Capitalism.
I blame the leftist Liberal Professors and the administration in our colleges and Universities who long ago eliminated Classical Liberal thought and education, especially economics, from the ciriculum. Cavet Emptor indeed.

Posted by: Tian Li | July 16, 2010, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

There were plenty of regulations. Many were not inforced. New ones, to get easy loans to everyone & built the fannie/freddie bubble was caused by the government.

Posted by: hollywoodron | July 16, 2010, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

Very Well Put Charles.

Posted by: Kyle | July 16, 2010, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

REPEAL the FEDERAL RESERVE ACT of 1913!!! The Federal Reserve criminals are choking the American people to death. Stop using Federal Reserve Notes and begin using US Treasury Notes. Reduce our annual US Budget by 2/3rd’s.

Posted by: ReadyAimFire | July 16, 2010, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

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Paragraph four…”sighted”?
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Posted by: gotwood4sale | July 16, 2010, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

Holy Christ, I’m not a fancy journalist or nuthin’ but the word is “cited” not “sighted”.

Posted by: John | July 16, 2010, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

With Scott Brown we knew we were getting a quasi RINO. What we didn’t think we would be getting is a guy who would very quickly resort to the ways of the Statists who sign off on 2000 page bills they haven’t even taken the time to read and fully coprehend.
Snowe and the other RINO from Maine have been chomping at the bit for months any reason to break ranks and cross the aisle. Monkee see. Monkey do was enogh of a reason.
Hell’va job Brownie!

Posted by: John | July 16, 2010, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

“Shelby sighted the lack of reform…”; it’s “cited”, George, not “sighted”.
These college guys fascinate me; so educated but can’t spell in context…

Posted by: George | July 16, 2010, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

It is time that the government became more for the people. When has the government been concerned about the average American citizen who works their butts off everyday and ends up with alot of bureaucratic nonscence. This bill is nothing more than the government trying to take control and keep their power for themselves. I say lets change in November and elect people who really care about the people more than themselves. And as for the Senators and Representatives in office, stop being such cowards and for once do something that is right for a change. America is in desperate need of reform, but it needs to be the correct reform if we are going to dig ourselves out of the hole that TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT intervention has created.

Posted by: Patty | July 16, 2010, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Banks running wild and operating in jungle style rules environment raking in billions in profits with no regard to robbing consumers for banks executives appetites, feeding on the vulnerable and lying and cheating to the public, who has no clue whatsoever when they are being raped. For abusive profits they loaned out bad loans knowing and colluding with other financial institutions and later asking American Tax payer to BAIL OUT and soon as they got the money back to the old dirty games and tricks for abusive profits. We need to make rules of the road for these leaches. Ofcourse the Repubs are mostly related to and take bribes from the Wall street banks so they can operate without rules for robbery to continue.

Posted by: Tony L | July 16, 2010, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Too big to read ….should be too big to pass..citizens should have had their say in Nov before any giant mystery meat bills got passed…the only reason to hurry is to deny citizens their voice…I guess that’s the change you voted for..

Posted by: tex02 | July 16, 2010, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

Atlas will soon shrug….
Who is John Galt??

Posted by: Hank Rearden | July 16, 2010, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

The task is to get enough of a landslide to enable them to repeal this legislation and the healthcare legislation

Posted by: student1776 | July 16, 2010, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

The reform that should have been undertaken was to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The legislators who should not have been permitted to work on reform are Sen. Chirstopher Dodd and Rep. Barney Frank. These two legislators should be investigated for the roles they played in setting the stage for the mortgage and banking and financial crisis.

Posted by: Obamabad | July 16, 2010, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

Support no moderate. Enable no liberal. Vote for no Democrat…at any level. Stop the Obama agenda.

Posted by: Obamabad | July 16, 2010, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Jonathon – Define a “fair market”. Who do you empower to say what is fair…that my friend is a very dangerous direction.
In my opinion you already have a fair market. If someone is charging more than you are willing to pay for something shop around, negotiate, do whatever but for God’s sake keep the Gov’t baffoons out of it.

Posted by: Patrick | July 16, 2010, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

Doug – you are sooooo right!! If the gov’t had not forced banks to loan money and grant mortgages to people who were not “qualified” we wouldn’t have half the mess we have now! Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac should be dismantled and Barney Frank should be held accountable, in a court of law, for lieing about its stable fiscal state! And they shouldn’t stop at Barney Frank, either! Our representatives (now there’s a loose term) who have engaged in bribery to get their pork barrel projects passed, and those who have a “convenient memory” when filing their taxes as to the rental property and money they own, should also be held accountable. The average American – who is going out to work (if they have a job)and raising their families, needs to wake up that we can no longer just go about our daily business on auto pilot thinking our reps have our best interest at heart – because the ones that DO have our best interest at heart, are being overrun by the ones who have their own selfish agenda. Wake up – get involved – and vote the charlatans out in November!

Posted by: Misheyz | July 16, 2010, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

Shelby is a great patriot. I wish we had more like him

Posted by: Bruce Greider | July 16, 2010, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

Capitalism made this country great and powerful. Socialism fails 100% of the time. And those believing Canada is okay, research their crumbling medical system. Their own prime minister sought heart surgery in US because his condition was worsening and he was concern about quality.

Posted by: thomas | July 16, 2010, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

Dear George — It really is time for the media to call out the Right wings misinformation/disinformatation campaign – This Obama is a Communist/Socialist mindless diatribe!!!! The press is remiss in letting them get away with this Mcarthyistic/Goebbell’s Propagandistic Nonsense!!! A Socialist would not start out his Presidency rescuing Wall Street ( The epitome of Capitalist Wealth) Neither would a Socialist put Geithner, Summers, etc etc.( Wall Street Insiders) in their Cabinet !!! This lie by the far Right Needs an aggressive counteroffensive by the Dems and the Media!!! To allow Fox to dominate the Spin is negligence on the part of the Main street media!!!!

Posted by: brian | July 16, 2010, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

Jonathan – so you think the banks need tighter restrictions because they’re in bed with politicians? So this law was made by politicians – why not regulate the politicians and let free enterprise reign?

Posted by: CB | July 16, 2010, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm

You fools! The Fed is a private bank! They are printing and stealing money from you at this very moment! And you have no idea they are doing it! They run this country and they control every politician!

Posted by: maxwell105 | July 16, 2010, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

“‘The TOP Capitalists today like Buffett and Soros say that while 100% Socialism has never worked, 100% Capitalism has never worked either.”
Of course not because crony capitalism works so much better. Soros and Buffet have made billions by being having the power elites in their back pocket. Soros is the last person one should put up as a credible source of disinterested economic commentary. He only makes billions manipulating the values of currencies. He destroyed the Brittish Pound and is now working on doing the same with the dollar.
This bill is a lobbyist dream. More rules and regulations to shape in exchange for contributions to re-election funds.

Posted by: Peter g | July 16, 2010, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

We have to be VERY careful, assuming that the Democrats lose control of the house and Senate this November.
Even if the Republicans take over, they are mostly professional politicians and are only marginally better than the Democrats. There’s a reluctance to change the status quo and many Republicans will resist repealing all the horribly expensive, over-bearing, pork-laden bills like ObamaCare and FinRef that have been forced un us.
They will say things like “Well we just need to pass another bill to change some of the provisions”
We don’t need more legislation.
We need these bad bills repealed in toto.
Followed by all the junk bills and executive orders etc going back to the 1960′s that have nearly brought this country to its knees.
Period.

Posted by: LukeJohn | July 16, 2010, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Rizz917 | Jul 16, 2010 1:31:54 PM posted “3 million new jobs? Sorry, it was way more than that. Supply side economics is what gave us the greatest economic growth in human history, bar none. You leftist retards, you know nothing about economics, nothing.”
Rizz, I “cited” the Bush era new job numbers from those “retards” at the wall street journal, hardly a “leftist” rag. Where did you find your story? Glenn Beck or Rush?
It’s easy to confirm my source. google “bush worst job creation” for the wsj comparison of Presidential Job creation going back to Harry Truman.

Posted by: green.goddess | July 16, 2010, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

If the tax and spend liberals wrote it, then burn it. Our moron president has not had one good thought since he bamboozled a great many people into voting for him. I just read that the GOP is complaining about his fifth vacation in his year and a half in office. Let him stay on vacation forever…..PLEASE.

Posted by: Steve | July 16, 2010, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Also remember that no government job actually creates ANY wealth for the country or its people as a whole.
By definition they exist merely to regulate, control people and to redistribute wealth earned in the private sector.
Every person employed by the government is like a “non-billable employee” in the private sector. He/She has to be supported by those who do the actual billable work. If you have too few actually creating wealth supporting too many redistributing it, the system becomes unsustainable and WILL collapse.
When that collapse happens, who suffers most? Private individuals. Who suffers least? Mid- and senior government individuals and their friends.

Posted by: LukeJohn | July 16, 2010, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

Jonathon said ” I’d rather have a fair market than a free market.”
The terms fair and free are NOT mutually exclusive. What makes capitalism or statism unfair is corruption. Power of money or the power of the state… both corrupt people. A certain amount of oversight (regulation) is required to keep both fair. Too much regulation is corrupting on the state side… too little regulation is corrupting on the capitalist side. We need fair and wise leaders to recognize where the levels should be and when they need to be adjusted.
I don’t think professional politicians fit the bill. I think the House needs to return to being run by the citizen legislators and the Senate needs to return to representing the states (ie – appointed not elected). Redo the power of the committee to balance power among all congressmen. Eliminate all benefits beyond their term.

Posted by: Beauxdog | July 16, 2010, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

The sidetalker slithers.

Posted by: rightbehind | July 16, 2010, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Canada has not had a financial meltdown because they don’t have a Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, threatening banks if they don’t offer zero percent down sub-prime loans to their Democratic constituents.
We have Frank and Dodd to thank for the mortgage debacle.

Posted by: Bot | July 16, 2010, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

Can anyone on this blog claim to have read and understands this bill? Can you name someone who has? Now that situation is the incarnation of bad governance and we have gotten it many time over from the Democrats.

Posted by: Looney Toones | July 16, 2010, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

I’m amazed at the number of people who buy into the notion that more government regulation is always the best answer. These people assume that business executives are all greedy and untrustworthy but government officials are somehow above board. This flies in the face of tremendous evidence to the contrary. We’ve had a sitting governor trying to sell a US Senate seat to the highest bidder. We’ve had government officals caught red-handed with bribe money in their freezer. We have government “leaders” who make $100K to $200K a year turning into millionaires before our eyes. The level of corruption and abuse that exists in the federal government makes whatever goes on on Wall Street look like a traffic infraction. Yet, the government is the one regulating Wall Street. Meanwhile, we have a largely leftist media which openly plays political favorites and ignores many of these transgressions so as not to disrupt the larger political agenda it endorses. We’re in trouble, folks.

Posted by: E. Abraham | July 16, 2010, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

This bill gives unions the right to sit on the Boards of Corporation. Can you get more corrupt? People want unions less and less yet this Administration gives them more power. Now I learn (WSJ) that the Unions are hiring non-union people and pay them less than minimum wage to protest. There are plenty of union members unemployed but the unions don’t want to pay full pay (and the money they pay the protesters comes from members’ dues). People who belong to union must be self-hating – they make the leaders rich while they struggle to pay their bills.

Posted by: maggie | July 16, 2010, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Regulate, regulate, regulate. To hell with it, I’m moving to Belize.

Posted by: drewynp | July 16, 2010, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

the Free Market is as free as is the Federal Reserve is Federal.
Vote them all out.

Posted by: DAN | July 16, 2010, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

Thank you! In my opinion, you are correct. We do not need any more regulations or government agencies. We already have government agencies that are supposed to supervise. Every time you add a new agency, it costs more me more money and nothing is accomplished. They just need to enforce the regulations that we already have.

Posted by: Laura | July 16, 2010, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

Good comments on both sides here, but Free Market “greed” is what sustains a healthy economy. Greed light may be considered desire to better ones-self and family. There is nothing wrong with that. The fact is that “greedy” corporations provided more positive charity than the entire US Government has. Corporate charity at least expects a return on their money by real improvement in people’s lives, not continued handouts and slavery to a welfare system. I’ll take the greed of corporations over the greed of the US Government any day of teh week.

Posted by: redduke | July 16, 2010, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

Atlas Shrugged.

Posted by: Joe Schillaci | July 16, 2010, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

No financial reform, no unemployment, no health reform. But gosh darn, bring back those tax cuts for the wealthy. At least that’s what our lobbying friends tell us. And Grover, you moron, the Feds don’t control nothing. Notice who actually does control this country – the wealthy. Grow some brains, will you!

Posted by: pamp205 | July 16, 2010, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

November can’t come fast enough. No, I mean that. It can’t come fast enough. We’ll be in a full blown revolution before November, mark my words.
The end is coming, it’s here.

Posted by: DoneWith | July 16, 2010, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

It’s all about expanding government, has nothing to do with creating jobs or helping the economy. The Obama Administration has shown no inclination to do anything to help middle class Americans and done nothing to create jobs other than overpaid, bloated government jobs (sorry Mr. Obama, saying you created/saved jobs doesn’t mean it’s true and anyway you’ve proven yourself to be a liar over and over again). Our only hope is a tidal wave of votes to REMOVE from office the stagnant, overfed, bloated, pompous, uncaring people in government who have created this mess.

Posted by: tampamom25 | July 16, 2010, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

We need a UNIFIED SECESSION.
The only way this is going to happen is if you demand it from your leaders. LEAVE THE UNION NOW. Join up with the 34 other states who signed HRC 2034 in 2002. It’s time to kiss this sinking ship goodbye. (interestingly, NY and CA are BANNED from joining HRC 2034, funny, huh?)

Posted by: ByteRider | July 16, 2010, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

Both parties are at fault. One tax and spends the other just spends.

Posted by: Justin | July 16, 2010, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

I’ve got it – elect republicans and repeal everything. Then let’s go back to the days of repub rule where the wealthy got wealthier and the middle class disappeared and the poor got poorer. Then in two years when we’re twice as bad off as we are today, Obama win another term for President in ’12. All it takes is a few months to remember how horrible republicans are at everything and President Barack Hussein Obama will be in for another four. YOU BETCHA!!!

Posted by: pamp205 | July 16, 2010, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

God, you republicans and tea partiers are crazy, crazy, and getting crazier. The near depression that we are experiencing began during an 8 year republican administration, you dimwits. Forgot about that fact, didnt you? Obama, following up on a campaign promise, passes legislation to protect consumers and create tighter regulations for big banks (both common sense endeavors given the situation we are in), and you scream that he’s a socialist???? Unreal. What do you want him to do – nothing? Republicans are a party bereft of any ideas.

Posted by: Paul | July 16, 2010, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Canada,,,and their 65% tax rate?. The same Canada that needs everyone to protect their own interests. That Canada??

Posted by: toomanysecrets002 | July 16, 2010, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

Please yes Repeal this and the healthcare bill along with it. This is the death of the financial sector for the benefit of the friends of politicians. Earlier this year we watched as the instrument of the destruction of the best health care system in history was created.
The actions of the progressives show lie to their words. These policies will have regressive results. This and 60 years of bad policy must be repealed or declared correctly as unconstitutional.

Posted by: George | July 16, 2010, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

This will not stand. What a bunch of fools. This is the very left going for it all. I want Barnie Frank and Chris Dodd leading the rest of them into jail. The world, not just Americans will eventually hold these people responsible.

Posted by: Tom | July 16, 2010, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

The word is “cited”…..not “sighted”!

Posted by: SpellCheck | July 16, 2010, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

“Shelby sighted the lack of reform of Fannie Mae,…”
I think the word is “cited.”
Remember when CBS used to be a professional news organization pre-Dan Rather and before they became the propoganda wing of the National Democrat Workers Socialist Party?
The_Pilgrim

Posted by: The_Pilgrim | July 16, 2010, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

In just 14 months, Obama has added $5 Billion per day of debt on us, our children and our children’s children………3 times that of Bush’s entire 8 year term [Washington Times - June 3, 2010]
This equates to buying two Nimitz Class Nuclear powered aircraft carriers per day 365 days each year. 730 aircraft carriers per year!!!!!

Posted by: WeMadeAmistake | July 16, 2010, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

Obama and the few people left who support him do not care what the bill says or what it may do all they care about is aggrandizing Obama in their own minds.
Its a Cult of Personality and nothing else.

Posted by: Brian | July 16, 2010, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

Free Markets mean Fair Markets but as a result of people that think government regulation means “protect those that donate and contribute to their political careers” we have neither. If we had free markets we ould naturally have fair markets. IN a free market we are free to choose whom to do business with, in a fair market we are forced to buy garbage from the government because they say it maybe fair.
I say if the too big to fails and the government servants are not able to accept failure of their corrupt business enterprises then the job maybe left to us to expose it and bring about a market realignment, we all have more power than we realize to control which companies succeed or fail, the media just tries to claim it impossible while in fact, more regulation means more protection for the oligopolies.
END THE FED!

Posted by: R | July 16, 2010, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

It appears we will need to start resorting to citizens arrest of these criminals. Then if the Justice Dept. is as corrupt as it sounds and will not prosecute, there is always the Declaration of Independence and a little old fashioned vigilante justice.

Posted by: Lee | July 16, 2010, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

Why bother debating with statists? They ignore the facts because their ideology has blinded them. Our democratic system allows for checks and balances. November 2nd will allow this system to once again right a terrible wrong. America is exceptional because of its divinely inspired founding. I know this sets off liberals but to be blind to this fact would be at ones peril. Obama in a perverted way is a gift to conservatives. His deceptional ways and destructive polices illuminate the short-comings of progressive policies. We have beaten back idiocy before and we will do it again.
God Bless America

Posted by: Kevin D.- Ohio | July 16, 2010, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

Do something for our country. Repeal
Shelby.

Posted by: Charlie | July 16, 2010, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

Last time I checked, a vast majority of socialist countries weren’t doing so well until they started adopting capitalistic ideals. E.g. China.
This so called “greed” or profit you talk about is what drives the economy, it gives people jobs, it’s what encourages innovation, it’s what creates business in the first place. Kill or subdue what drives the economy and you’ll start killing jobs.
I wanted start my own business in America because of great idea’s I have but OVER-taxation and OVER-regulation makes me wanna invest somewhere else. Regulation or deregulation is not necessarily bad – the consumers need to be protected from the likes of stealing, cheating, lying, etc. Government has gone passed this. It’s the OVER-regulation and OVER-taxation (basically government running the economy) that’s evil. It was OVER-regulation behind the housing crash: Fair Housing Act and the creation of Freddie and Fannie.

Posted by: Ian | July 16, 2010, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Doesn’t address Freddie and Fannie at all.
Doesn’t address highly-leveraged derivatives like mortgage default swaps until 2022
Creates (20) new Offices of Women & Minority Inclusion in the Fed, Treasury, etc.
Forces Wall Street firms to put SEIU union reps onto their board of directors.
Creates a lot of taxes and fees that will be passed on to consumers.

Posted by: Malik | July 16, 2010, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm

To all you dopes that voted for this administration and congress….GOOD MORNING!!!…this is the dawn of being completely screwed by believing the lies of obama. If you choose to remain ignorant you will get what you deserve.

Posted by: Chris | July 16, 2010, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm

Jonathan,
You couldn’t be more wrong. Canada has not done “well” through this recession. The country just posted the largest record defecit this year. Do not Canadians build up the massive reserves every day for the Canadian banks by service charges et all? It is regulation and politics that caused the worsening situation in the U.S. The U.S. needs more deregulation and less interference from the politicians. What do you think would be the outcome when banks are forced to lend to those who are not credit worthy? How naive to think that Canada has not, and will not feel the effects of the recession. Jobs are being exported out of Canada right now. If it were not for the resource rich prairie provinces things would be significantly worse.

Posted by: j | July 16, 2010, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

For all the people pointing to Canada, the reason Canada is doing well is because they didn’t have the likes of Democrats Barney Frank,Chris Dodd, Shelia Jackson-Lee etc., forcing banks to make unsound loans to people who couldn’t pay them and a Democrats Harold Raines and Jamie Gorelick backing those bad loans up with taxpayer money which opened the doors for big Wall Street Democrat donors like Goldman’s to make unsound “derivatives” out of these insured bad loans and sticking us with the tab. THAT’S why Canada is doing well and we are on the brink. It’s absurdly funny to see financial knuckleheads like Frank and Dodd who helped blow up the economy smiling as this new special interest laden turkey they crafted is signed. Only Democrats and their pliant media allies could get away with this crime.

Posted by: jadams76 | July 16, 2010, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Capitalism always works better than socialism. The problem we are having is they are not letting the free market be free and correct itself. They are socializing the market regulating the market and that is scaring over-seas investors and business here in America. Obama is a failure! Cut taxes stop govt takeovers stop over regulation and red tape and we would snap out of this in no time. When we cut taxes the govt gets more moneyt because of more business and stronger economy.. Obama is trying to socilize the country no doubt the Soros group designed the bailouts , healthbill and others.. people need to wake up!

Posted by: jaybone76 | July 16, 2010, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

The bill is simply a PROTECTION RACKET for Wall Street Banksters.

Posted by: TheChairman | July 16, 2010, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Remember when you are freaking out about the left wing loons and their unbelieveable pace of passing and ramming all this on us…Don’t sound too far the other way. REMEMBER, the MIDDLE controls the country, they leaned to Obama-most are sad about it- but they WILL RUN AWAY from a Jesse Helms styled right. We have to be intelligent and rational, even though they are not. NOT A CENTRIST approach, just a calm approach, good conservatives are always calm. Also the left runs the media so any ‘right wing’ craziness they amplify it and distort. Steady as she goes Mr. Spock.

Posted by: Denis in Vermont | July 16, 2010, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

More than half of America now understands that Obama is a Socialist. Whether we understand that the same is true of the Democratic Party is unknown.

Posted by: tanarg | July 16, 2010, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

The two main characters that cause the housing collapse ie..Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were Chris Dodd and Barney Franks!!! Now, they didn’t even fix that problem and were in charge of this massive reform that NO ONE has completed read…yet and PASSED it. What is going on in our country? I fear for our children and their future.
PLEASE BE HONEST CONGRESS & STOP PULLING FAST ONES OVER THE PEOPLE!

Posted by: lee | July 16, 2010, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm

THE BANKS WERE ALREADY REGULATED PEOPLE JUST WERE NOT DOING THEIR JOB LIKE FRANK WAS THE OVERSITE FOR FANNIE AND FREDDY AND DODD WAS THE OVERSITE FOR BANKS THAT WAY IT IS SO BAD TO LET THESE TWO NEAR ANYTHING.

Posted by: sam | July 16, 2010, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

GLASS-STEAGALL. If the don’t like it, they can drop dead.

Posted by: james | July 16, 2010, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm

For the first time in the 50+ years I have been an aware political being people are looking at the American Government and its leaders as their enemy, not in some vague sense neither on some one or even several points such as during vietnam when the war and use of drugs made for a split between on generation and another. People who have never met find something in each others eyes and say “when?” They feel their essential humanity MUST have an enemy because of what they are.

Posted by: Bai Pon Kee | July 16, 2010, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm

The FED was one of the main perpetrators of the bubble, which preceded the current bust. And now they are giving the FED more power. Lunacy……………..

Posted by: Tom | July 16, 2010, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

GROVER… You may not have studied ecomonics but you understand it. I never thought I would hear — as I did the other day — AMERICAN officials saying the sort of insane garbage the commies used to say “Wow, it’s hard to figure out what everything should cost.”
nit wits. The government has no business doing that you morons. Go home to Russia and Cuba.

Posted by: Bai Pon Kee | July 16, 2010, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Crisis.
Crisis is what totalitarian regimes thrive upon.
Crisis is a good excuse to take more control of people’s lives and therefore their money and their private property.
Crisis usually hurts people across the financial board, irregardless of financial status but Fascists always lie and tell you it only hurts the poor.
A poor man cannot close a business and lay off 100 employees due to high taxes.
A poor woman cannot hurt a manufacturer by canceling products for her retail store due to high taxes and government regulation, therefore costing both the manufacturer jobs and herself employees.
Crisis is key to the Obama administrations strategy to follow Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro down the MERRY ROAD TO COMMUNISM VIA THE SOCIALIST ROAD.
The world would be so better if only a KIND, CARING LEADER WOULD SAVE US ALL FROM OUR OWN RESPONSIBILITIES AND PROPERTY.
YEAH. THIS IS WHAT I SEE COMING.
ROWDY BOOTS

Posted by: Rowdy Boots | July 16, 2010, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

Someone tell Scot Brown from Massachusetts he’s like every Democrate in the lying State. When you have top GOP officals telling you something important and YOU GO AGAINST them, something is wrong. Who’s Brown listening to hmmm. He is supposed to stick for what’s right, to bad we have to learn later on his true heart.

Posted by: Jim | July 17, 2010, 12:14 am 12:14 am

How can antbody vote into Congress what Obama-Pelosi-Reid want? These idiots are ruining America, and most of the black leaders dress well but have hollow heads.

Posted by: Jim | July 17, 2010, 12:21 am 12:21 am

My Plan for financial reform and economic recovery: Repeal everything Obama has signed, SOx, and the Community Reinvestment Act; then, cut spending and taxes.
And while were on a role, repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments. We don’t need the IRS and the ultimate in genuine campaign finance reform would be to let the states select their US Senators however they like.
I dare anyone to tell me, honestly and intelligently, that it wouldn’t work.
Even the most die hard progressive must realize, if they use what few brain cells they have left, that the above plan would rescue the economy.

Posted by: MrObvious | July 17, 2010, 1:29 am 1:29 am

Brought to you by the same idiots that repealed GLass-Steagel (wiping out 60 years of safeguards) and created the financial crisis in the first place! Chris Dodd and Barney Frank are the most financially corrupt legislators, yet they are tasked with ‘improving’ the financial system? Funny how THEY were the ones who forced Fannie and Freddie to make bad loans (under penalty of punitive regulation), yet they leave out ANY regulation of the two entities most responsible for the crash! Not only is the Fox in charge of the chicken coop, the whole pack of Foxes has taken over the farm and installed their brother as Secretary of Agriculture!

Posted by: Thaddeus S. Kaczor, Jr. | July 17, 2010, 1:30 am 1:30 am

Um, thanks but I don’t need to be protected from my bank.

Posted by: littleblindjeffymcrib | July 17, 2010, 2:29 am 2:29 am

I’m all for repealing the Financial Reform Act and the Stalin care health care that was passed.
But this begs the question: Why were they passed in the first place?
Are the House and Senate acting irrationally from the outset? Are they not listening to Americans? Ignoring fiscal duties? and official obligations associated with the responsibilities of their positions? positions they vigorously struggled and fought to gain?
Something doesn’t add up, in government these days.

Posted by: Ruler4You | July 17, 2010, 2:37 am 2:37 am

What scares the hell out of me is that none of the elected leaders took the time to read this bill! This bill gives the Federal reserve the authority to seize any buisness that they deem is in danger of failing.
Thomas Jefferson warned us not to place to much power in the hands of banks and BHO and his worshipers…. oops sorry I mean is fellow party members have done is give a independant organization the ability to take control of any business they want. My word BHO is getting ready to follow the steps of his friend Chavez, and start taking from those who do inorder to bribe votes from those who do not.

Posted by: Grigori | July 17, 2010, 7:12 am 7:12 am

“Jonathon” commits the same thoughtless error made by all leftists. He points out that business is generally corrupt, because it is operated by corrupt business people, i.e. “rapists”. He then concludes that the only remedy for this corruption is more “regulation”. The fallacy of course is that Jonathon supposes that the politicians who create and, most importantly, enforce the regulations are free of corruption. Jonathon does not understand or believe that more freedom is always preferable to less freedom, even if one must occasionally do something for oneself in order to preserve that freedom. He has been so intimidated by the absolute “largeness” of Big Brother that he is in effect, a “believer”. Not a critical thinker, but a mere believer. Jonathon is precisely what is wrong with America today. Revolution, anyone?

Posted by: Tru Skeptik | July 17, 2010, 7:37 am 7:37 am

This is nothing but another Obama administration power grab! Wake up America before it’s too late. I don’t want all this government-provided cradle to the grave care. I can still think and take care of myself and when I can’t my family will make the important decisions for me. I don’t need all this government! BTW, I think there should be a bill passed limiting the size of a bill to no more than 200 pages. It is a travesty that the senators and congressmen vote without reading what they’re voting on!

Posted by: Freedom Isnt Free | July 17, 2010, 8:45 am 8:45 am

Ron Paul has it right. AUDIT THE FED and then END THE FED.

Posted by: KEG | July 17, 2010, 9:07 am 9:07 am

REPEAL IT!!?? I say repeal the PEOPLE that got us into this mess. We need to vote all of these Anit- Freedom, Anti- Capitalist politians out and make it clear that they will not stand. Think Brown also needs to be made an example of… What will it take or maybe is there anyone out there who will step up and REALLY represent us Americans, WE NEED TO FIND THEM

Posted by: RayS | July 17, 2010, 9:12 am 9:12 am

Jonathon, the Mick, Fred Flynt and others have remarked about Canada. These are the facts about Canada:
1. Canada requires 5% downpayment put on a home to buy without exception; the Federal Government will increase this amount when the housing market becomes overheated (ie: which is then a relative amount in that case given market dynamics); 2. Canada has the most minorities of any country, Toronto is the world’s most multicultural city (UN citation) — despite all these minorities, everyone is equal and under same rules whether you came from France or England in 16/17th century or from Nigeria yesterday; 3. Canadian Banks and credit unions will not lend to people without proper means and responsible debt service ratios and credit ratings; 4. Canada’s banks and credit unions are forced to remain properly capitalized with sufficient deposits and insurance and are some of the most power banks in the world now.
The Mick wrote: “The TOP Capitalists today like Buffett and Soros say that while 100% Socialism has never worked, 100% Capitalism has never worked either.” This is exactly true and can be arrived at by reason alone: any ideology to an extreme, that is without moderation, will be deficient and defective, erring in its extremity. In other words: everything in moderation. Free Enterprise and Capitalism carried to their logical extremes have bad effects, just as any ideology would. In the case of extreme left / right, it can be useful to consider the extremes of both.
There was a time Canada was harked as being socialist by Americans. Today, America looks far more socialist. This is partly because Canada’s provinces (the state level) still have their autonomy and related power in how they implement many of these policies. In the US, these policies are being adopted, imposed and implemented at the federal level, above the states. This creates a very different implementation of such types of policies.
It is sad to see our American friends struggle right now. The US government is seemingly out of touch with its citizens in the country which should be the benchmark for such representation.

Posted by: John Q Citizen | July 17, 2010, 9:24 am 9:24 am

It is going to be a busy time, cleaning up after the Obama administration. What a mess. Then, start culling the libs out of government. They have burrowed in real deep and are intent on enriching themselves at the taxpayer expense. Again, what a mess.

Posted by: BettyO | July 17, 2010, 9:27 am 9:27 am

aedams “Canada is a joke! They have less than a tenth of the US economy.” They also have exactly 1/10th the population which puts them right about par with the US.

Posted by: John Q Citizen | July 17, 2010, 9:41 am 9:41 am

I wonder, if those who voted for this bill even read it, or just added their pork to it and passed it, the democrats forgot to add Fannie and Freddie the root of the collapse, they might loose campaign money

Posted by: Lizzie | July 17, 2010, 11:02 am 11:02 am

Oh, I do so enjoy the ABC Republican blog. Ha, ha, ha…….according to the Tea Party/Republicans “Canada has a lower standard of living than the US”. Have you people been to Canada recently? Been to Vancouver or Toronto? These cities are BOOMING, more so than the US!
Healthcare? Ask a Canadian if they want to change to US Healthcare for the rich, they will laugh at you!
And no wonder Sen. Shelby wants the new financial regulations repealed… his biggest political contributors are Securities and Investments. He is their boy.
Oh, you Tea Party Republicans are sooo funny! You make a lot of noise screaming “Obama/Socialism/Communism” and any other label you can create. But you don’t even know that socialism and communism are not the same thing.

Posted by: findlayway | July 17, 2010, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

The bill allows the President to bypass Congress on any future bailouts and allows them to take over any business they deem necessary!
Must repeal!

Posted by: BS61 | July 17, 2010, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

I am always amazed that some people believe that politicians will look after their interests better than corporations will. Both are motivated by greed, but the politician can ruin you and take everything you have – even your life in some cases, and use the cover of the law to do it. The corporation can screw you in a number of ways, but their motivation is to make you happy with their products so you’ll buy more of their stuff.

Posted by: Snuffy | July 17, 2010, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm

What else is new! The GOP has stopped being legislators when McCain lost to Obama and instead became the “Just say no” prostitutes in Washington!
Many of them are getting away with destroying the American dream. It won’t be long now that some day, we’ll all be eating at their dinner tables because they will be the only ones hording all of the food!

Posted by: Lawrence Tells | July 18, 2010, 1:55 am 1:55 am

You Republican sheep make me sick. Someone in your party says a word (socialism) or phrase (destroying America) and you all latch on like leeches and repeat it over and over and over. Well you know who governed one of the most “socialist” states in our country… it was your beloved Sarah Palin. Alaska taxes the oil companies to drill and then guess what the Alaska state government “redistributes the wealth” to the people of Alaska in the form of check to every man, women and child in the state at the end of every year. I don’t care what kind of spin you Repubs put on this it is redistributing the wealth…your catch phrase for socialism.
Plus you Repbups keep harping that Obama and the Dems rceived campaign contributions from big business, but you didn’t seem to have a problem with Bush & Cheney receiving huge corporate donations or that Bush & Cheney (two Texas oilmen) placing people from the oil industry on the committees to write enery policy and oversee safety measures for drilling.
Selective memory and sound bites that’s the Republicans. Remeber in 2004 election when the econmic downturn was startin and jobs were being lost and what did the Republicans have as the “talking point” of that election to distract people .. it was gay marriage. Like that was more important than the economy. Just an example of how the Republicans get you to vote against your own economic self interests. And I don’t what to hear that you can’t blame the previous administration when the entire time Bush was in office the Repubs took every opportunity to blame the Clinton administration.

Posted by: What the hey | July 18, 2010, 7:25 am 7:25 am

While Obama says “We are headed in the right direction” the National Debt is growing beyond any reasonable hope of resolution.
The current debt would require 100 years (yes 100 long years) to amortize. And that is with whopping 320 billion dollars per year payments. Now if we wait until year 2012 to start the payments will escalate to 380 billion dollars per year. But if we wait until year 2020, guess what? The interest payments alone rise to 900 billion dollars per year, more than triple the debt payments if we stared payment in 2020.
So I ask the Obama Administration, His Congress (they don’t represent us!) And the watchdog(?) media just how is this debt to be resolved? As I keep harping on this critical subject the debt keeps rising and these three groups just keep ignoring my questions.
Mr. Obama what are you doing to my Nation? Is it part of your plan to move us into socialism or Marxism? Show us some math that would refute my statements!

Posted by: Ed Taylor | July 18, 2010, 10:37 am 10:37 am

“The TOP Capitalists today like Buffett and Soros say that while 100% Socialism has never worked, 100% Capitalism has never worked either.”
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Sorry, but none of us are old enough to remember a 100% Capitalist society. It went bye-bye with the formation of the Fed. I beleive that was 1913. Read and COMPREHEND some history, dufus.

Posted by: Dagney | July 18, 2010, 11:21 am 11:21 am

The republicans asked the democrats to take out tougher guidelines to this bill and then they would vote for it. Then they go to the media and say it isn’t tough enough!! Why didn’t they vote for it with everything in it?? You now know who is benefiting don’t you? Have the republicans said what they would do? No!! They had 8years to fix all of this and they did NOTHING!!!!

Posted by: carole | July 18, 2010, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

LEST ANYONE FORGETS, GEORGE IS A “PROGRESSIVE” SUPPORTER (In the know about the agenda, democrat)! I thought it was a mostly fair interview, George did seem to try his best to be neutral!! At some point, even their most staunch supporters, must wake up and realize in order to support this agenda, you must have to believe, that truth is irrelevant!!! To deny the obvious truth, makes you look stupid to anyone not buying into the “Con” games, the American people (The former suckers (Hook line and sinker, beleivers) are waking up in droves!!!! What good does the “Progressives” lies, do them? Commit them to a life of poverty and dependence upon the gods in the government? “MOTHER (Government) MAY I”, “Until death do us part”!!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE, BEWARE OF WHAT YOU MARRY!!!

Posted by: DEF | July 18, 2010, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

THEY PASS MORE REGULATION TO POLICE THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THEY AUTHORIZED INTO EXISTENCE!! The more confusion they can create, they more power they will need to sort it out!!! PLEASE SEND MORE MONEY TO THEM, so they can invest it in more programs to disrupt the “Civil” society, it is a lucrative business for them!!!!!!!!!!!! NEVER ENDING NEED FOR MORE (Power and money), Love thy government more than thy God and you will pay DEARLY!!!!

Posted by: DEF | July 18, 2010, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Obama, Pelosi, Reid and all of their Socialist/Communists/Extremists (aka: George Soros, Tony Resko, Bill Ayers, etc.) NEVER created ONE JOB but continue to ensure that their family and themselves get RICHER AND RICHER and live HIGH ON THE HOG at the SOLE expense of American Taxpayers day after day. They are all “smoke and mirrors” just like the WIZARD OF OZ. Obama has SOLD OUT America and American Citizens and in 2010 and 2012 American Citizens will RECLAIM their Country back through the ballot box. God bless America.

Posted by: Jeff Schrembs | July 18, 2010, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

Will the Democrats destroy America? The current debt would require 100 years to pay down, if we were willing to pay 320 billion dollars per year. But if we wait just until 2012 to start payment the payments would increase to 380 billion per year. But let’s not stop there, if we wait until 2020 to start the interest payment alone would be 900 billion dollars per year.
Obama and Biden may say we are on the right track, but I say do the math and call them out for a FACT CHECK!

Posted by: Ed Taylor | July 19, 2010, 10:22 am 10:22 am

What’s sickening is how the word socialism is associated with this president and democrats.. Our banking industry went unregulated and has been completley capitalistic and look how the economy suffered.This president and democratics want some regulations to ensure we don’t have to face that type of crisis again and right wingers want to scream “Socialism”.. I ask once again.. What has that complete regulation free capitalism done for us in the past eight years?

Posted by: TV | July 19, 2010, 11:54 am 11:54 am

We received letter from our Representative Barbara Lee on the day FinReg passed through the Senate, stating that there is nothing her office will be able to help us. Clearly, FinReg means nothing to her. What a joke about rebuilding the integrity of our financial system and protect American general public!
We filed complaints against Wells Fargo ‘s appraisal and mortgage loan fraud with Office of Comptroller of Currency, Barbara Lee, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Boxer and Harry Reid in 2006. In 2006, with overwhelming evidence, we were told that Wells Fargo did not commit appraisal and mortgage fraud against us.
We spent 10 months from June, 2006 to March, 2007, trying to convince everyone that Wells Fargo made the mortgage loan to us based on hugely inflated appraisal. No one cared or bother to listen.
In March, 2007, after clearly indifference from Wells Fargo and our regulatory agencies, we filed the lawsuit against Wells Fargo and continued to follow up with OCC and senators. After we filed the lawsuit, OCC and all senators told us that they can’t make any comments on our complaints since it is in litigation.

Posted by: Donna | July 19, 2010, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

“We protect ourselves”….this guy obviously doesn’t understand what just happened. There is no way the average joe can know if his bank is making too many hedges, if they are investing their money in bets on bad loans, or actually investing their money in good businesses. Alan Greenspan said he was “dismayed that self regulation didn’t work”…..really? Ever heard of the Great Depression? The Glass Stegal Act??? that protected us for 70 years, and we repeal it and inside 10 years we are right back to where we were during the Great Depression for all the same reasons and for all the same lack of control banker, stock brokers and hedge fund managers had. This guy is DANGEROUSLY niave. This is why Bush did NOT pull the plug on the bets, the derivatives when the writing was on the wall that he should. He thought it would be bad for jobs. When in fact, it led to over 600,000 americans being laid off for month after month after month while bush was in office and nothing Bush did coudl stop it. obama stopped it. And now you want to go back to the world of finance according to Bush????????????

Posted by: oh please | July 19, 2010, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

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