By Alex Pepper

Jul 29, 2010 5:21pm

Today’s Q’s for O’s WH 7/29/10

Ron Bloom, Senior Advisor to Treasury Secretary Geithner and Senior Counselor for Manufacturing Policy, and Ed Montgomery, Executive Director of the White House Council on Auto Communities and Workers joined Press Secretary Robert Gibbs in the first half of the briefing today to discuss the President’s upcoming visits to auto plants in Detroit and Chicago.

Yunji de Nies: Robert, you can't keep jobs if you can't sell cars.  I wonder how confident you are in the strength of these auto companies and if the administration thinks it's appropriate to do another round of cash for clunkers or something similar, to sort of stimulate this sector.

MR. GIBBS:  Well, I don't have the exact figures with me. Look, you — when we talked about the decisions that were made around a structured bankruptcy, we were dealing in an economy, I think, where — I think that yearly car sales were certainly less than 10 — 10 million -

MR. BLOOM:  Nine, nine million.
   
MR. GIBBS:  And, you know, this is — that's off of a high of probably around 17.  We're in a better environment now.  I think right now it's about 11.

MR. BLOOM:  Eleven million.  
   
MR. GIBBS:  And so because of consumer demand, obviously, as these guys mentioned, working through that planned retooling and summer shutdown in order to meet an increased amount of customer demand I think demonstrates, one, that the economy as a whole is getting stronger, and that pushes demand for more automobiles, and secondly, these guys are making a profit.
   
And so at this point we don't — we don't see or have plans for redoing the cash for clunkers program, but I would say the investment that was made on that, not only did that spur an enormous demand, but it took cars off the road that were by definition older and more of a — more polluting, and put newer, cleaner models on in their place.  

I will say it is hard to talk about the success of the decisions that were made in the auto industry without mentioning again the efforts that — of many, including all of the auto industry, and certainly efforts like — with people like Carol Browner on the president's staff, to provide certainty in emissions and fuel economy. The rules that were created working with the industry added certainty for cars, and now we've added work trucks to that rule as well.

That, again, provided some certainty in emissions that cars — the emission targets that cars have, as well as took the mandate that Congress passed on fuel economy and moved it up several years.  
   
It had been, you know, somewhere between 20 and 30 years since we'd had a substantial improvement in fuel economy.  The Senate finally broke that impasse in 2 — I think in either 2007 or 2008.   Giving (sic) the certainty of this rule, we were able to push the 2020 target to 2016 in a way that, again, helps our goals in reducing our dependence on foreign oil and gives auto manufacturers the certainty that they have always wanted on the manufacturing side.   

Later Bloom and Montgomery left and briefing turned with the day’s news.

de Nies: Robert, the president talked extensively at the Urban League and also on "The View" about this whole — about Shirley Sherrod, about talking about race.  Now Ms. Sherrod says she's going to sue Andrew Breitbart.  I wonder, does the White House think that that suit is justified?  And also, how –

MR. GIBBS:  I will excuse myself from that, based on the fact that I have — I'm not a lawyer.  Even if I was, I wouldn't — I don't know why I would get into answering questions about one citizen's decision to sue another.  
 
de Nies: But how does that play into the whole narrative — the whole teachable moment? I mean, if you have an incident like this and it turns into a lawsuit, surely that doesn't play into what the White House hopes comes out of an event like this.   
  
MR. GIBBS:  Well, look, I'm not going to speak for the actions of the individual that put up a video that clearly was heavily edited to the point of not showing the end of the story.  But I'm not going to get into the legal back-and-forth of this.
  
de Nies: But is this — (inaudible)?    
   
MR. GIBBS:  No, no — but let's understand this.  The — regardless of the lawsuit or who wins or who files it or where it's heard, that's not the — I don't know how that detracts from the fact that, as the president has said since that and reiterated in the past couple days, that it is important to listen to all of what people have to say, to hear their entire story before making a judgment.  I don't — I don't think that has changed at all by legal decisions that are made around that.  That's — that is still — that's still the lesson that someone should take from all this.  And I don't know — I don't why you wouldn't take that lesson based on the fact that somebody made a legal decision. 

de Nies: But because this was an administration employee by the fact that this person actually worked for the USDA, so that — the president stepped in with Henry Lewis Gates and held the beer summit with something that he was much less involved in.  Is it appropriate, then, so that this does not descend into a lawsuit, for him to hold some kind of a conversation on race –

MR. GIBBS:  No, the –   
  
de Nies: — or to do something to mitigate this so that we're not talking about this forever?

MR. GIBBS:  We're not talking about what forever?  The lawsuit?   
  
de Nies: So we're not having this back-and-forth between Sherrod and Breitbart

MR. GIBBS:  The — I — the president got 60 — or close to 60 million votes not to be somebody's chief legal adviser but to be the commander in chief and to run the affairs of the United States of America.  Individuals can and should make their own legal decisions regardless of who their employer is.

April Ryan (Urban Radio): Robert, that's not what she's saying.  You were brought — this administration was brought into it, in the weeds of this, because of your reaction.   
   
MR. GIBBS:  But April, I would not get involved in — if a federal employee had been dismissed from federal service, got into a car and –

Ryan: Forced to resign?   
  
MR. GIBBS:  Or however, and got into a car accident that they believed they should sue about, why would — why would the president or the administration get involved in that?

Ryan: But this administration –   
 
MR. GIBBS:  No, no.  But why would –
   
Ryan: (Off mike.)  
   
MR. GIBBS:  Hold up.  

Ryan: Casualty of this Breitbart’s –    

MR. GIBBS:  April, why would the president –  
 
Ryan: Heavily edited videotape?  
   
MR. GIBBS:  Why would the president or the administration get involved in that lawsuit?

Ryan: Because you are — this administration –  

MR. GIBBS:  We would get involved in that lawsuit?
  
Ryan: No.

MR. GIBBS:  April, I just –
  
Ryan: What I'm saying is, you –  
   
MR. GIBBS:  I appreciate it.  I'm happy to talk about what the president talked about.  The president, I just want to be clear, doesn't work for the Legal Services Administration, okay, he doesn't provide legal advice to employees of the administration.

I wouldn't ask the president legal advice on something that I was doing.  I don't –

Ryan: Would you consider yourself a casualty of this Breitbart case and what happened here?

MR. GIBBS:  I think as I said in the days past it, I thought the administration acted rationally, I think the media in moving this story quickly acted rationally.  I think people probably based on that video came to conclusions, about what was or wasn't said, rationally.

I said that all a week ago.

de Nies: But if the conversation on race was worth having for Henry Louis Gates, why is it not worth having and being a leader on that now?

MR. GIBBS:  I don't think the president has to be the teacher at every teachable moment.  I hope you can look at what happened and discern the lessons that one should take away from it, without having to have to the president tell you what to take away from it.

de Nies: They're still fighting.  
   
MR. GIBBS:  Who's still fighting?   
  
de Nies: Shirley Sherrod and Breitbart.   
 
MR. GIBBS:  And, you know, I assume that that's going to happen — I don't understand how that's part of — I don't understand how that's part of what you take away from — that now is what you take away from this whole moment?

de Nies: (Laughs.)  What I take away from it is irrelevant.  I just wondered –

MR. GIBBS:  No, no, no, you posed the question.  Let's delve into what — you said that the teachable moment is now erased based on the fact that one person has decided to take legal action.  Does that erase the teachable moment that you took away from this individual circumstance?   

de Nies: Absolutely not –    
 
MR. GIBBS:  I don't think it takes away from most people's teachable moment.

de Nies: — but I wonder if the president could have been more of a mediator or a leader in this circumstance –  

MR. GIBBS:  Again, I think the president has spoken about what he takes away from it.  I hope you take away something from it without necessarily having to speak to the president about it.  I think we can all come to our own reasonable conclusions about it.

Chip.   
 
Chip Reid (CBS News): I take it, the president's not planning a major speech on racism?  (Laughter.)

MR. GIBBS:  I — if he does, he'll hire Yunji as a lawyer beforehand. 

(Laughter.)  

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User Comments

Council on Auto Communities and Workers. If that doesn’t sound socialist, you need a mental hygiene corpseman. Who ever is coming up with these names is wrecking this Presidency.

Posted by: nat turner | July 29, 2010, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

Gibbs: If We’d Known About Conviction, Woman Wouldn’t Have Stood With Obama
Why Gibbs?? corruptocrats always hang out together
OBAMA VS AMERICA

Posted by: Yep I said that | July 29, 2010, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

“Now Ms. Sherrod says she’s going to sue Andrew Breitbart.” – Yunji de Nies
That’s odd.’
Normally people sue someone who has wronged them in some significant manner.
In this latest Race-o-rama Dealio Sherrod was most wronged by the Administration when they forced her to resign.
If Sherrod had any sense or cajones or mojo she’d would sue the USDA or the Bama Administration. That’s what a sensible person without an agenda would do. Maybe Shirley has unresolved issues and that’s clouding her judgement.
Funny how long this back and forth went with Gibbsie and no one from the press picked up on that. Huuummmmm . . . . . . .

Posted by: Noz | July 29, 2010, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm

“Maybe Shirley has unresolved issues and that’s clouding her judgement.”
….
or maybe when there’s a fire and your house burns down, you go after and try to stop the guy who started the fire and is still running around with a blowtorch.
Just a thought.

Posted by: Cara | July 29, 2010, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm

Cara, you don’t sue the guy who sold the book of matches.
You sue the guy who lit the match and set your house on fire.
The USDA forced Shirley to resign, they are the ones who burned down her home.
She should go after them. Didn’t she sue the government once before?
Why not go for a second helping?
Just another thought to consider

Posted by: Noz | July 29, 2010, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

“You sue the guy who lit the match and set your house on fire.”
….
Exactly, and that guy is Breitbart. For an attorney’s view of it, read “Shirley Sherrod: Sue Breitbart and Fox News” by Michael Yaki. He gets the bottom line and the heart of the analogy correct:
“but for Andrew Breitbart, who deliberately manufactured this story and dressed it up with racist overtones, people today would have no idea who Shirley Sherrod is or what she does. And she’d still be at her old job.” (SF Chronicle)
That’s the firestarter.
But keep working on the analogy building, Noz. (what you’re talking about is whether the admin and USDA made the fire worse– they did,imo, but they restored some of the damage by admitting the mistake, offering a job and both privately and publicly apologizing. )

Posted by: Cara | July 29, 2010, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

Posted by: Cara | Jul 29, 2010 11:52:54 PM
From a President who says he’s not concerned with the 24 hour news cycle. What a crock.

Posted by: MM | July 29, 2010, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

Yunji de Nies… how about checking into the involvement of Shirley “SUE” Sherrod and her land trust New Communities Inc. and how many supposed wronged farmers got payoffs in Pigford vs. Glickman (then Vilsack) versus census data showing that many farmers did not even exist. Or maybe just ask about something you are more comfortable with like what color shirt Michelle will wear on her vacation trip to Spain.

Posted by: gk | July 30, 2010, 12:13 am 12:13 am

So, I see some are referencing what fact checkers call “Another bogus Sherrod smear” .
(insert eyeroll)

Posted by: Cara | July 30, 2010, 12:24 am 12:24 am

“So, I see some are referencing what fact checkers call “Another bogus Sherrod smear” .
.
“(insert eyeroll)”
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Are you referring to the smear of Sherrod by the racist actions of oBama, Vilsack, and the NAACP?

Posted by: gk | July 30, 2010, 12:31 am 12:31 am

From what I recall, the “heavy” editing done on the video in question was where to start playing and where to tsp playing – there are no cuts or omissions from the point the video starts until it ends… Not one word, not one noise was edited out to change what she said.
The real problem is the lead-in that Breitbart put on the video, where the story is presented as a recent event in her current position in the USDA.
A lawsuit will hopefully tell us what Breitbart got and how comparable it is to what was posted/aired…

Posted by: N2vip | July 30, 2010, 2:28 am 2:28 am

General Motors, in a brilliant strategic coup, has bought “subprime” auto loan company Americredit. What else does a government/union owned car company need? The fact that GMAC has lost $10 billion of taxpayer funds in the last year shouldn’t worry you about your investment in GM. If you can’t sell cars to people with no income, no job and no prospects for repaying the seven year 0% loan, who can you sell a car to. When the government pays Goldman Sachs millions to convince you to buy the stock of GM in its Fall IPO, ask no questions and just buy buy buy…
from zerohedge

Posted by: pauldia | July 30, 2010, 7:41 am 7:41 am

Obama seems to be just a talking head. The more he talks the more I do not trust him. Who is paying for all the constant campaigning?

Posted by: Jan Saunders | July 30, 2010, 8:24 am 8:24 am

Maybe Obama messed up Sherrod’s lawsuit by offering her the job back. She needs to show great loss, for a financial settlement. Now, she is all set to write a book or two, maybe a bestseller.. maybe she should thank the Breitguy.

Posted by: Dontget818 | July 30, 2010, 8:54 am 8:54 am

Yunji, good first question, you could have stuck with that issue. Possible followups: since congress exempted auto finance from the financial regulation, aren’t you simply encouraging more deceptive loans? And, why did the 1908 Model T get 25MPG while the average 2008 car got 21MPG?
Gibbs is wrong on the “heavily edited” comment. It would be more accurate to say “deceptively edited” instead. The ACRON video was “heavily edited”.
Most of the Pigford plaintiffs have still not yet received the money the government owes them.
Obama owned his ill-considered initial response in the Gates matter. It is Breitbart who needs to man up here.
Can you mediate race matters with Sherrod, who is a victim of racism, and Breitbart, whose raison d’etre is to profit from fanning the flames of racism?

Posted by: Flash Override | July 30, 2010, 8:55 am 8:55 am

“maybe she should thank the Breitguy.” – Dontget818
Thank Him?
No she should give him and Obama a cut of the action.
Without them we all would have never heard of Shirley.

Posted by: Noz | July 30, 2010, 9:28 am 9:28 am

Breitbart had no authority over Sherrod – he couldn’t fire her. The Administration did, they are the ones who grossly failed in their required due diligence.
If you want to use the house fire analogy, then you could perhaps say that Breitbart lit the match – and he held it in his hand and held it out. Obama and Vilsack came and took the match from him and tossed it into Sherrod’s house.
That said, the numerous racist or race baiting statements throughout Sherrod’s full speech (god knows what was in the bit the NAACP edited out right about 21 min), are egregious enough that she deserved to loose her job anyhow over those statements. No civil servant should make statements like those in a public speech, let alone someone relative high up who has authority over many people and more than $1 BILLION in tax payer funds.

Posted by: Who Wants to Know | July 30, 2010, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

ROFLMAO!
So the new tactic by the right wing is to demand Sherrod sue the Obama admin and Vilsack!
Guess the racist Breitbart realized he could be in trouble in a lawsuit and the right wing media is doing its best to provide cover for him.
All the same suspects, same idiocy as the boy scouts fake outrage.
Lemmings…….

Posted by: Ryan C | July 30, 2010, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

“Without them we all would have never heard of Shirley.”
Apparently many farmers are quite glad that they got to know Sherrod as she saved their farms.
But soulless right wingers continue to smear this decent woman.
I would say for shame but right wingers don’t have any.

Posted by: Ryan C | July 30, 2010, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

I don’t think the smearing has stopped at the right wing.. she seems to attract a lot of negative attention across the board.

Posted by: Dontget818 | July 30, 2010, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

“Apparently many farmers are quite glad that they got to know Sherrod as she saved their farms. ” – Ryan C.
Well I hope so, that was her job.
If she didn’t help farmers save their farms then she’d be an incompetent.

Posted by: Noz | July 30, 2010, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

“Well I hope so, that was her job.
If she didn’t help farmers save their farms then she’d be an incompetent.”
That’s not just her job.
That’s her life’s work, helping farmers keep their farms
The right rather celebrate self obsessed egomaniacs I guess.

Posted by: Ryan C | July 30, 2010, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

Ryan C wrote:”Apparently many farmers are quite glad that they got to know Sherrod as she saved their farms.”
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Looks like quite a few who were not even “farmers” got a little spending money courtesy of the remaining productive American taxpayers.
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“But soulless right wingers continue to smear this decent woman.”
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Reached by phone Monday night, NAACP Atlanta chapter president R.L. White (a soulless right winger I guess?) told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution he “detests what she said.”
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“I would say for shame but right wingers don’t have any. ”
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Better than having no brains like the lefties… stupid can’t be fixed

Posted by: gk | July 30, 2010, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Apparently Ms. Sherrod is not quite as “post racial” as the MSM would have you believe… hence her abrupt disappearance from the media…
I for once would like to hear more from her… perhaps a couple of hours with Larry King, and an “in-depth” with Katie…
I think America should be exposed fully to the views of Ms. Sherrod…

Posted by: Quo Warranto? | July 30, 2010, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

Quo Warranto wrote:”I think America should be exposed fully to the views of Ms. Sherrod…”
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And her husband as well who said: “Finally, we must stop the white man and his Uncle Tom from stealing our elections. We must not be afraid to vote black. We must not be afraid to turn a black out who votes against our interests.”….. What do you think Ryan C… sound a bit racist to your sensitive mind?

Posted by: gk | July 30, 2010, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm

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