High-profile Christian Leaders Criticize ‘Misrepresentation’ of Obama’s Faith

No other president’s fait has been challenged and this president is a christian. He is too christian to condemn others who are attacking him and that is what christians do. They forgive the other person’s stupidity.

Prominant pastors whose ranks include T.D. Jakes and Kirbyjon Caldwell- never heard of them. Do they also embrace the perverted christian philosophy of liberation theology? I think evidence in actions tells a lot, like Obama covering up the crucifix at Notre Dame, cancelling the national day of prayer. I do not believe Obama is Christian, Muslim or Jew. His actions do not bode well of anyone practicing any of those those religions. I think Obamas’ god is power and his religion is deceit.

Downwithsocialism wrote: “T.D. Jakes and Kirbyjon Caldwell- never heard of them”
Really? Kirbyjohn Caldwell was an influential spiritual adviser to George W. Bush, offered the benediction at both of his inaugurations and officiated at the wedding of Bush’s daughter, Jenna. I figured you would know that. ;-P

I think Obamas’ god is power and his religion is deceit.
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Gotta work money in there too.

President Bush was the first to come out and say the Mulsems were not responsible for this disaster and he often had meetings with Muslem leaders in an effort to bring peace and accord among these leaders. How come no one called him a Muslem as he had more contact than this president? This shows the hipocracy of the republicans. Their own president did not blame Muslems yet how many of them do and are making it more than it should be as well as the tea party crowd who are out there blasting Obama. Gingrich who refers to this president as Hitlerlike. He (who is definitely not without sin.ask his former wives how loyal and dependable he is) should never say things that are innacurate and untrue as this will come back to haunt him in the end should he have other aspirations. As to the person who talked about the stimulus…get your facts straight..the stimulus saved and created 1.2 to 3.1 million jobs and all economists have said this. The Virginia governor made me laugh by saying he turned his state around and when he was asked did the stimulus help he said a little….he received 3.5 billion dollars for his state…I think that is more than a little…another example of where republicans refuse to give President Obama credit for anything.

hey jake: we need you to ask and demand every democrat if they want the mosque to be built at ground zero. nothing about freedom of religion,or “misrepresenting the direct question”, do you support the mosque at ground zero, or not?
What is this crap that the media has to ask americans to confirm anything.
33% of americans in 2006 Scripps-Howard poll, said 9/11 was an inside job.
did jake tapper and the rest of the LIBERATI DEMAND THAT EVERY DEMOCRAT PUBLIC CONFIRM OR DENY THE 9/11 TRUTHERS.
PLEASE JAKE,TAKE BIAS ELSEWHERE.
HOW ABOUT OBAMA’S NAME.
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.GEE,I WONDER WHY SOME PEOPLE THINK HES A MUSLIM. HIS DAD GAVE HIM A MUSLIM NAME. THIS ARTICLE SAYS OBAMA
“HAS COME UNDER ATTACK”. WHEN HAS HE COME UNDER ATTACK, THE MEDIA COVERS UP ANY SCANDAL, THEY TRIED TO HIDE THE REVERAND WRIGHT(BIGOT) & TONY REZKO(WHO IS NOW IN PRISON FOR NUMEROUS FELONIES), WHO SOLD OBAMA A HOUSE AT RIDICULOUSLY LOW MARKET VALUE.
SURE, HE’S REALLY “UNDER ATTACK” BY HIS FRIENDS.

Discopants8 | Aug 26, 2010 2:17:13 PM…..Anyoone forcing it down your throat? A conservative who is libertarian and not into religion just ignores it; a liberal in the same scenario tries to make religion go away for everyonoe.

talmag | Aug 26, 2010 12:55:14 PM
….Your statements on Glenn Beck are inaccurate. I suggest you get your facts from someone other than Media Matters.

Why are we being asked to care about this?
How does his personal faith, and American’s personal opinions about it (right or wrong), affect our country? Not at all.

I applaud this. Perhaps Rick Warren should come out with a statement. History should teach this and a public statement from all Christian leaders on his birth record as well would be helpful — no man has every been inaugurated in the U.S. unless he is has U.S. Citizenship — that is written down which is why Arnold S could not run — this hatred needs to stop.

Thou doth protest too much.

Jesus Lover: I respect you for that statement…if only others would feel the same. In 2010 to have so much division regarding faith is so sad.

talmag,who is Reade?

You know who he is so stop being a jerk (if I spelled it wrong..so what) the fact remains that this idiot gave out the personal addresses of some democrats and that is a no no and he knows it. He is probably hoping that something will happen and he could step in and say Peace..God wants us to be friends and look good. He says families are off limits to anyone else but him. Today he said that there will be a revelation at his rally and that God will speak to him and in the next breath went into a goldline commercial (which he was paid plenty for) and implied that even God wanted you to buy gold as there is nothing else you can depend on. God is not interested in gold nor anything else that is false and he has missed the point. He cares for no one and said at one of his speeches if you believe everything I say “you are an idiot.” At least he was honest here.You can check that out also.

President Obama wants to help the poor, make health care accessable and educate our children in America.Hmm. Wasnt Jesus concerned about the poor, the sick and children…. Sounds like a Christian follower to me. Jesus also was blasted for being with sinners and tax collectors. Isnt that what republicans blast democrats for being? Barack sounds like a Christian to me. Christians from the bible were hated, lied on and seriously misrepresented like Jesus himself. I know it was a loud mouth conservative from the bible who told Jesus himself that he was possessed by the devil. So our president is constantly vilified for the good he tries to bring to poor and working class. Religious leaders of the day like Pat Robertson spread all kinds of viciousness about him. Those types of leaders did the same thing to Jesus. Barack Hussein Obama actions look like a follower of Jesus to me. If any real christians were to open their bible and read the ways of Jesus they would see it. Instead of just taking the word of their biased,rich, tax exempt in church and wanting to be that way in business republican leaning ministers( not all are like that)

But NO citizen has the right to define what it means to be a “Christian” for any other American.
Posted by: green.goddess |
NO citizen has the right to define what another citizen has the right to define.

“Abortion and Christianity do not mix”
Lots of other things are not supposed to mix with Christianity, like war, greed and hate, but we don’t hear many right-wingers complaining about that do we?

But NO citizen has the right to define what it means to be a “Christian” for any other American.
Posted by: green.goddess
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I think there are thousands of priests and ministers who would beg to differ. It’s their job.
BTW, how does one become a “high-profile” Christian leader? Is there some sort of litmus test? What sets one apart from the rest? Seriously.

Have you read Obama’s book? He wrote: “I will stand with the Muslims”.
WHY ISN’T OBAMA DOING HIS JOB?
We need a President — not a Campaigner-In-Chief. If he isn’t campaigning — he’s vacationing.
Parties! Good times! Wine! Banquets! Beaches! Money! Laughter! Vacations! Golf! Personalized rock concerts at the White House! High fashion! Hollywood types fawning all over you!
Meanwhile, the rest of us are broke, unemployed, or on the battlefield.
Democrats have controlled Congress since 2006. This is the most corrupt administration in American history. Obama, Pelosi, Reid and the other liberals in Congress, along with the biased media, based the entire 2008 campaign on lies. They have no problem governing AGAINST the will of the American citizens.

What do you think of the tea party people giving out the home addresses of Pelosi, Reade and others? posted by talmag
But you have no problem with the SEIU going to executives homes and scaring the living daylights out of their children. You have no problem with comunity organizers interrupting business meetings and using terror tactics to get their point across.

TV wrote:”Wasnt Jesus concerned about the poor, the sick and children…. Sounds like a Christian follower to me. ”
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Not! Think Jesus would have sponsored legislation to deny medical care to babies who somehow survived an abortion attempt? Like I have said, watch what oBama DOES, not what he SAYS, when it comes to judging his “Christianity”.

Posted by: Woody | Aug 26, 2010 9:14:50 PM posted: “how does one become a “high-profile” Christian leader? Is there some sort of litmus test? What sets one apart from the rest?”
You can view the more than 70 “high profile” Christian leaders using the link at the end of the above article.
It’s fairly simple to google each name if you’d like to discover “what sets on apart from the rest.” For example, T.D. Jakes has been on a 2001 Time magazine cover. PBS Religion and Ethics Newsweekly named him one of America’s “Top 10 Religious Leaders.”
The letter was signed by people from across the ideological spectrum.
“The signers of this letter come from different political and ideological backgrounds, but we are unified in our belief in Jesus Christ. As Christian pastors and leaders, we believe that fellow Christians need to be an encouragement to those who call Christ their savior, not question the veracity of their faith.”

So out of those thousands of priests and ministers, which ones provide the “correct” definition of a Christian?
Posted by: green.goddess |
Witness the thought process of a progressive. It’s natural to someone who believes elitists should make the rules for us all.
gg, there is no “correct” definition. That is the point of freedom of religion.

GOD HELP US ALL! | Aug 27, 2010 8:04:21 AM posted: “Have you read Obama’s book? He wrote: ‘I will stand with the Muslims’.”
This quote perpetuates trash from emails or talk show entertainers – it goes hand in hand with the equally false idea that Obama is a Muslim.
It’s very simple to google and factcheck this quote about “standing with the Muslims”. Read the paragraph where it’s supposed to have originated (page 261) in “The Audacity of Hope”:
“Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
Obama’s book does NOT say he will “stand with the Muslims”. This smear tactic was cooked up to scare some people into believing our President will side with the world’s Muslim population even if it meant working outside the best interests of the United States.

Foghorn Leghorn | Aug 27, 2010 10:27:08 AM posted: “I should have read the rest of your post before my knee jerked.”
LOL no sweat Foggie. I find even “elitist progressives” agree with the First Amendment.

gk | Aug 27, 2010 9:28:59 AM posted: “Think Jesus would have sponsored legislation to deny medical care to babies who somehow survived an abortion attempt? Like I have said, watch what oBama DOES, not what he SAYS, when it comes to judging his ‘Christianity’.”
It’s easy to read the full facts about Obama’s votes against ‘Born Alive’ bills in Illinois by googling factcheck.
Some “Christians” define pregnancy as starting at conception. Other “Christians” define it as starting when the zygote is fully implanted in the wall of the uterus. There is an ongoing discussion between “Christians” about whether a zygote, embryo, or fetus is also a human person.
Consequently, some “Christians” also believe a decision to have an abortion is up to an individual woman, based on her specific situation (such as religious beliefs, age, marital status, or health.) Others believe the government should not veto her decision.
Do you think the correct way to judge an individual’s “Christianity” is based on how we stand on these issues?

Posted by: Nephron | Aug 27, 2010 11:13:45 AM posted: “Ever hear of Oprah Winfrey?”
Oprah was a member of Trinity United from 1984 to the mid-1990s. According to Newsweek: “In conversations at the time with a former business associate, who also asked for anonymity, Winfrey cited her fatigue with organized religion and a desire to be involved with a more inclusive ministry.”
Trinity is definitely is a pro-black church and Rev. Wright continues to be a controversial pastor. Not exactly everyone’s church of choice. On the other hand, an article in Christian Century magazine points to Trinity’s success: “the black church continues to makes converts in unlikely places, reflecting a God who makes a way where there is no way.”
From factcheck: “Wherever we looked we found ample evidence that Obama’s church is pro-black, but we found none to support a claim that it is anti-white. Calling it “racist” is, in our judgment, a falsehood.”

What if an “opinion” is based on malicious, politically motivated gossip?
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So what?
Every President faces malicious, politically motivated gossip. People are free to spread it, believe it, contest it, disagree with it.
It’s nice these Christian leaders feel they want to support Obama’s Christianity, but it really isn’t up to them to ask the American people to support the way the President chooses to worship. Nobody has to do that. It’s personal.

MayBee | Aug 27, 2010 12:02:57 PM posted: “it really isn’t up to them to ask the American people to support the way the President chooses to worship.”
Disagreeing with “the way the President chooses to worship” or his political policies is not the issue here. These prominent Christian leaders stand against perpetuating misinformation.
According to a poll released by the Pew Research Center on Aug. 19, the proportion of respondents who believed Obama was a “Muslim” tracked closely with their political views.
The Associated Baptist Press states: “34% of those who said they were conservative Republicans incorrectly identified Obama as a Muslim. White evangelical Protestants were the most likely of any religious group to misidentify Obama as a Muslim. 29% of evangelical respondents said the president was a Muslim, up from 20% who held that view in 2009.”
Interestingly enough, the Pew Research survey also showed that 52% of Americans believed that churches should stay OUT of politics and the percentage supporting church political involvement dropped two points from last year.

Posted by: gk | Aug 27, 2010 12:14:01 PM posted: “Make all the excuses you want for supporting infanticide.”
Barack Obama’s opponent in the 2004 race for the U.S. Senate, Alan Keyes, claimed that Obama “voted against the bill that would stop the practice of letting these babies die.”
In reality, Illinois law already provided that physicians must protect the life of a fetus when there is “a reasonable likelihood of sustained survival of the fetus outside the womb, with or without artificial support.”
Obama stated that the bills he refused to support were not about what should be done to a “human being alive and breathing outside the womb”; he objected to how the bills defined “baby” in the first place. As we all know, there is an ongoing debate among “Christians” whether a zygote, embryo, or fetus is also a human being.
Some “Christians” believe a decision to have an abortion is up to an individual woman, based on her specific situation and that the government should not veto her decision. I offer no “excuses”. We already know President Obama, along with millions of other Americans, supports this concept.
The unanswered question: should we judge an individual’s “Christianity” based on how we stand on these issues?

MayBee | Aug 27, 2010 12:31:35 PM posted: “In the end, his policies matter. What he actually does or wants to do with the power of his office matters. His religion really should not.”
The Pew study indicates most Americans agree with your statement about religion, even if they do not agree with President Obama’s policies.

Islam states – If your father is Muslim then you are Muslim !

Jeremiah Wright sure sounds like a Christian doesn’t he? Don’t all great Christians proclaim goddamn America? Oh yeah just the liberal ones.

All these comments against the President are race based. If he was white, these posts and this issue would not be made. America still has a lot of growing up to do. Fortunately its just the whack jobs, the fringe and the extremists doing all the trash talk.

Any preacher who holds up an unrepentant proponent of abortion as a Christian loses all credibility.

“Did. Its also easy to see that oBama chose the side of abortionists rather than the side of a human being alive and breathing outside the womb.”
Obama erred on the side of choice.
Why do right wing nuts so want to control women’s bodies?

Lots of other things are not supposed to mix with Christianity, like war, greed and hate
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Of the problems in society greedy people is the one that equals all the others combined. Ideology is a ignorant definition. It needs to be honestly defined.

Ryan C wrote:”Obama erred on the side of choice.”
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Quite an error….a living, breathing, human being thrown in the trash to die. You can try to rationalize this all you want… but in the end you have a radical who supports infanticide.

shame on your TD Jakes you supporting a man who supports and does everything he can to kill babys, I have kost all respect for you and all that signed this petition. you all disgust me . I shake the dust from my feet.

Well said there Ed as Jesus was for those who were down and out and didn’t have a whole lotta of material goods. Where is Pat Robertson and all those othjer fat pigs at as they are demonizing him and his followers. Much like the pharisees. Jesus would be proud of someone trying to build something rather than destroying it.

You people need a life. President Obama is a Christian and for those who don’nt want to accept that, well that’s too bad. Not because you believe he is not make it true. Most Christians believe they have the right to play judge and jury and is always ready to pass judgement on others. They obviously need to read their Bibles more and maybe they will read that only God can judge! They take out of the Bible what they want and the rest they throw away. People need to learn tolerance and not be quick to HATE!!!!

Pat Robertson is a politician not a messenger of God’s word. He twists the Bible passages around to fit his earthly desires for fame and fortune.